Free Discussion, November, 2014

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Anonymous said...

Josh and Anna have been married for 6 years and have "only" 3 kids. Jim-Bob and Michelle had 5 in five years. I wonder if three is all they are going to have? They say they will be happy with what the Lord gives them. I guess He is only going to give them 3. With Anna obsessing about when she is going to get pregnant, such as being married for 4 months and still not pregnant, I wonder if they are not advancing in this area the way they want. Surely this is causing some heartache on Anna's part.

Abby said...

I hope Jana and Jinger are doing well back at the ranch while Jessa and Jill enjoy the first months of marriage...can't help but feel sorry for those two now that Jill, who so much loved to play with the kids, is gone.

Anonymous said...

What I would like to know is how much old Jim Bob Duggar is worth these days. The Celebrity Net worth website lists Jim Bob's current net worth as $3.5 million. But that seems low to me considering the popularity of the show, the proceeds from books, personal appearances and magazine covers. And there's also income from Jim Bob's other, non show business activities in real estate, etc. I know his expenses are high, but I suspect he's got far more than a measly old $3.5 million socked away, most likely off shore.

http://www.celebritynetworth.com/richest-celebrities/jim-bob-duggar-net-worth/

I also wonder how much the Duggar family is paid for each episode. After 10 years on TV, it might be in the neighborhood of $50,000 or so, but I can't find any information on that. You can be sure that Jim Bob drives a hard bargain whenever he's negotiating with TLC or anyone else.

To me, old Jim Bob seems to be as obsessed with saving money, earning money, and just plain old money as he is with having sex. I'm sure he always knows his own net worth down to the very last penny.

nancy

Judy said...

Is Erin Bates Payne pregnant?

Dar said...

Watching some of the reruns. I can't comprehend what Michelle thinks of Little Jordyn. One episode, when it was her birthday, she had her hair cut and everyone surprised her by being in the house for a party when she came home. She kissed some of the children. Jordyn was standing right in front of her and Michelle almost leaned over Jordyn to pick Josie up. She then proceed to go to Anna and MackKenzie and kiss them. She just treated Jordyn as if she were invisible. What kind of a mother does that? Is it because there are sooo many that she feels entitled to favour some, but ignore the rest. When the camera pulled back a little, it showed Jordyn in Jill's arms. No wonder that child does not want any of the "Buddies" to get married and leave home.

coleen said...

I somehow missed this. A vintage clip of the Duggars celebrating Xmas, maybe 10 yrs ago. Two things to notice - Not 'buy used save the difference' on that year's Xmas gifts, and Jana sewing dresses for her sisters.

Anonymous said...

Duggar boys have a youtube channel- Duggar Studios

http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCkBO42gKskiIOGNqTCpgmHg

taurus0385 said...

Two things. #1 I saw an old episode when they did the 24 hr party for Michelle's birthday. The scene where they were at the coffee shop it looked like Ben was their server. It didn't show anything more then a very quick side view but it sure looked like him. #2 there is a special coming up about josh Anna and their kids going on a road trip. I wonder if they're going to announce Anna is pregnant with m4.

tulip said...

Josh has that "something is different but can't put my finger on what it is" look. It's definitely in the face/head though, not the scruff...did he get hair plugs? If so, maybe it will be an episode like going to the dentist, weight watchers, etc.?

Looking at Jessa & Ben's wedding pics, Jill looks to be trying to steal the show, arching her back and sticking her belly out like "look at me!" JB wore the same gray suit? Anna looks nice (for Anna) but all black? Very poor choice IMO, looks like she should be at a funeral, esp. among all the coral & light & bright colors. She & Josh also look old, well beyond their years and they're only a few years older than Jessa. See what Amy wore as pictured on her Instagram in all black w/ leather coat, looking like she's off to the big motorcycle convention at Sturgis. Seriously, what's with these people?

Katie's Mom said...

I have always felt badly for Anna with one baby after another. When they were in the process of moving to DC, she was running around with 2 in the stroller, & 9 months pregnant in flip flops. I am now beginning to wonder, as it is Anna that is constantly talking about nothing but babies & pregnancy. It doesn't seem to me that Josh is all that excited, & into more babies at this time. He seems happy to let his sisters take their turns, & let him off the hook when it comes to providing his parents with more grandchildren. Whenever she mentions more babies, Josh give her a sort of side look & a slight, very slight smile, as if he doesn't quite want to discuss, or even think about it, at least not at the present time. Anyone else notice this?

Anonymous said...

people magazine asked the older duggar kids who are not married if their father hands picks their spouses they said no? we know he has a lot to do with who they marry they are lying. just a thought. John also said he was joking when he said he was taking applications to wed. I don't think he was and I think he is creepy like the dad. Also poor Jana her life is awful for a 24 year old women. why is she not in school or holding ajob. they will never address that question. we know the answer already though.

Anonymous said...

Just found out that the American Family Association, where Josh "works" (I use that term loosely) urged people back in June to reject mail with postage stamps bearing the likeness of Harvey Milk.
Because Milk was gay, and the gayz are up to no good.
That's the kind of thinking that's behind the dog and pony show TLC calls Nineteen Kids and Counting. It should really be called The Smug Haters Whom Jesus Would Punch in the Face, Were He to Return.

SuzieQZ said...

I'm a relatively new viewer and what really strikes me is how JBD and MD had the freedom as adults to choose their path in life, but that freedom appears to be denied to their children.Most notably the girls. It's shocking to see how little genuine interaction occurs between mother and child. I wonder if done of these younger children will experience serious abandonment issues as their older buddies are married off and the actual mother seems to play such a limited role in their upbringing?

Sharla said...

People have asked how the family and I are and why comments are slow going through sometimes. My personal life has gotten very busy. Some is good and some not so good. It should even out soon for the most part. The grandchildren are fine, but my parents are not.

Please check the source of the wilder rumors about Jessa and Ben. There is a fictitious blog posting some rather salacious items. Comments repeating that likely won't go through.

Also please don't keep asking where Josiah is. You can speculate on why he's been at ALERT going through all the different portions, but he's still doing ALERT modules.

Anonymous said...

She stopped being her mom when the pregnancy problems started with Josie, I don't think I ever saw her pick her up again, so very sad

Leanne Thompson said...

I noticed that as well. Little Jordyn was pushed to the side once Josie came along. Feel so sorry for her as she is just a little baby herself.

Leanne Thompson said...

I also noticed that Michelle is quite cold towards her children. The only child I have saw her having genuine affection for is Josie. She seems more interested in her husband than her kids

Jeannine Denton said...

I completely agree with what tulip said, I noticed that Jill seemed to be trying to steal the attention with how she was posing. Let someone else have their day. She used to not bother me, but ever since she walked into her parents room saying, "I think I love someone I've never met," I just can't stand her.

Anonymous said...

Re Katie's Mom:
On a recent new episode, Anna was talking about babies again, and Josh said that his"cup was full". I take that as code for he's probably happy with 3 kids and is grateful for them but he'd like to be out of the baby-makin' business. Anyone else catch that TH segment?

Jeannine Denton said...

Umm... Anna just posted a picture to Instagram of her and Josh kissing with Ben and Jessa kissing in the background. I'm already getting sick of all the kissy pictures Jessa has been posting since they got married. We get it, they can kiss now and it's not a sin. But making out with your husband with your brother and sister-in-law doing the same a few feet away is just inappropriate.

Mary said...

Anna had a miscarrage a while ago

Anonymous said...

Wonder if theyll return all their Apple products since the man in charge has come out as gay?? Doubt it!

Grammy said...

Suzie QZ If you are a relatively new viewer, you have caught on quickly to the Duggars. Michelle had the freedom to be a cheerleader, go on overnight trips with her cheerleading squad. She has a best friend Cindy, if you haven't seen her yet. Michelle & Cindy will talk about all the great times they had in High School. As far as Jim Bob, we know he went to private Christian School, but he himself has said he was never an athlete. Michelle met him when he was selling Bibles at age 19, I believe. That seems strange to me, even for a kid that attended Christian School. I know many that have, & that's not exactly what thy are doing after graduation. However,apparently he was allowed to date whomever he wanted to, as was Michelle. They both wore jeans & Michelle attended his Senior Banquet in a formal gown (something her girls have never had)Michelle even admits to wearing a bikini bathing suit. She does claim it led her neighbor who saw her in the bikini to get a divorce. You can consider the source there, I think. So to sum up, you are right on target, the Duggar kids don't live a life anyway near what their parents did at that age.

Anonymous said...

Dar, I can answer your question about what kind of mother treats a child the way Michelle treats Jordyn & I believe most of the bloggers here also can. The answer is simple. The mother that treats Jordyn that way is, here it comes....MICHELLE! Just about everyone who has contributed to this blog, & watched the treatment Jordyn has received, has said they would love to have that beautiful child, & give her all the love & attention she deserves. When it comes to Jordyn,I always think of that old song :"Nobody's Child!"

Katie's Mom said...

Sharla,
I just want to send you warmest thought & prayers & hope all will be well soon, as you go through this difficult time. I know many of us have gone through the same thing & it's not easy. Stay strong

Anonymous said...

RE: anonymous 11/8 @4:54PM
I didn't see or hear the segment that you referred to where Josh said, "his cup was full." In this case, I do hope that as the head of the family, he will have his say in this matter. Anna has just taken on Michelle's personality; babies, babies & more babies.Of course they always have Jim Bob urging them to, "be fruitful & multiply." Wonder why they don't believe a man with a wife & family of 3 kids doesn't realize when enough is enough? Just because that's not how Michelle & Jim Bob managed their family. Everyone forgets that Jim Bob & Michelle, had almost 4 yrs. together to enjoy as just husband & wife with no babies crying in the night, etc.

Anonymous said...

It would not surprise me if J and A were doing NFP because there is lots of mentioning how very busy their kids keep them. If they had so much as a Trojan in the nightstand, it could be found by family and the x would hit the fan. At the very least, I think they probably hope for no blessings at the moment.

Leecy said...

You know, I would have some respect for this family if they just admitted that they no long have to "buy used/save the difference"

It would be honest if they were to say "Hey, we are grateful that we can now take a breath and not worry about money anymore"

But no, they keep up the charade. I think it is extremely hypocritical and they soon need to realize that they have BECOME what they profess to hate so much about mainstream.

Oh, and anyone see Mrs Seewald's dress.....its a tin man knock-off of Michelle's dress from Jills wedding.

Anonymous said...

So sad to see a picture of Michelle and Jim Bob kissing just like Jessa and Ben. It is on Jessa's instagram.

no name said...

Did anyone see the picture jessa just posted to her IG it's a picture that Michelle texted her of Michelle and JB kissing. My parents would never send me something like that. So gross. Also what's up with the duggsr boys wearing skinny jeans? Don't get me wrong I think it's great it just seems weird that they can wear them but not shorts. I've also never understood why he girls can wear short skirt, to their knees, but the boys can't wear shorts.

mythoughtis said...

I think it was Anna that said their cup was full... implying she is in no hurry for more children. Josh had a knowing look, meaning he understood her veiled comment.

As to Jessa/Ben and Anna/Josh kissing in the same photo... it's because they have numerous photos/film of Jim Bob/Michelle kissing next to Josh/Anna. Remember the scene where the four of them were kissing over the top of the crib when Anna was pregnant with McKenzie?

Anonymous said...

Anonymous 11/6 @8:07am. Jim Bob & Michelle, didn't have any kids for 4 yrs.Then they had Josh, followed by a miscarriage alleged caused by the pill. Then they had twins, Jana & John. It was at least another yr before they had Jill. So I don't think they had 5 kids in 5 yrs.

Anonymous said...

In some ways, I think Jessa and Ben have a "better" chance at a more fulfilling relationship than Derick and Jill. Jessa and Ben at least knew each other for a year or so and have spent a lot of time with each other. I think they are both equally immature (as seen by Jessa's preachy and holier than thou comments and their kisses) etc., but they might be a good match personality-wise.

Every time I see Derick, I feel like he is starting to look "dead" in the eyes. My impression is that he is annoyed that Jill seems to be more excited about having a baby than being married to him. He was in Nepal for two years, which was probably a little lonely, got wrapped up in a whirlwind romance, marriage (using his former (?) prayer-partner's wedding vows (so weird they used Michelle and Jim Bob-blehead's wedding vows, at least to me), baby on the way, and his whole life now on TV. I think he got more than bargained for. When he was thinking a 'ton' of kids, maybe he thought 4 or 5. I think if he mentioned adoption it might be because he saw all the children in need in Nepal. I think Jill wants to be like her mother - it's about "family life quantity" not "family life quality".

Anonymous said...

Perhaps I missed something but was Anna part of Jill's bridal party but not Jessa's? Strange, no?

Anonymous said...

Sharla, I, too, am sorry to hear that it is a difficult time for you personally. I have been there myself with parents' health issues, etc. It's not easy, but I wish you strength. Thanks for what you have been doing here for us. Prayers to you and your family.

Marti said...

Did anyone see the pic that Jessa and Ben Seewald took of them kissing? I just saw Michelle and Jimboob recreating it!! Gross!

Leigh Ann said...

Josh is the one supporting the family and he's realizing how much kids cost, even buying used. I'm sure he's realizing that his parents were lucky to get in on the real-estate boom when they did and he's not going to be that fortunate. And being the oldest, he remembers those early days when they were having to cram in a small house and just getting by. I think Josh knows his limits and three kids is about it. I don't think Jim Bob and Michelle realize that their situation is unique and that not everyone can pull off what they've done. I bet the other kids come to realize that, too. Hopefully Josh has had a frank discussion with Anna over just how much of a family he can reasonably support.

Anonymous said...

It's really sad that J and M feel they need to upstage their kids, they took a picture of themselves kissing, exactly the way Ben and Jessa did. They are getting stranger every day.

Andrea said...

Sharla: Sorry to hear that your parents aren't well. Thanks for all your hard work in keeping the site going. I'm sure it represents a lot of time and effort.

Anonymous said...

check out jessa's instagram. supposedly Michelle "texted" a pic of her and JBob kissing, in the exact style as Jessa's fun die selfie. GAG It's just too much.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous 11/09/2014 12:40 PM, Anonymous 11/6/14/8:07AM here. I meant that once JBD and MD started having children, they had five in five years. Michelle herself said that, once when she was talking about doing laundry early in the morning. I took her word for it. I checked the kids ages on line, and Josh was born in March of 1988, and Jessa was born in November of 1992. So, they had 5 kids in 4 years and 8 months.

Anonymous said...

the whole kissing thing is just stupid. we wont show knees or touch too much but when ur married anything is fair game?? do they have smartphones now... do they look at regular media? how come this is all ok now? such a freaking double standard. preach about it being such and such but falling for it.
jim bobs hair spray obsession = pride. wedding\baby registeries = greed. hate gay people but happily buy their products. stewards of the earth yet own lots of cars, buses,disposable everything. im so sick of it!!!

Sharla said...

Thanks for the kind comments. Unfortunately neither of my parents can recover so it will be downhill from here on for them.

Patsy said...

In response to Leigh Ann comment 11/9 @ 4:51 pm:

"he's (Josh) realizing that his parents were lucky to get in on the real-estate boom when they did and he's not going to be that fortunate."

Real-estate boom had nothing to do with their "success in life" IMO. If it weren't for the TLC money wagon they would still be building their home! Jim Boob (& Michelle) are multi-millionaires now (& counting $$$) & laughing all the way to the bank due to TLC.

The only thing Jim Boob is teaching Josh, Jill, Jessa and the others is to take advantage of the great "opportunities" with TLC, people magazine ($$$ for photos), instagram, etc. to make the easy $$$ while the public is interested in them. More "specials" or "spin offs" will continue with Josh & Anna and the other couples to make easy $$$. They learned this "life lesson" well by Jim Boob's example & encouragement to keep the train "going round & round" down to the next generation.

No, I won't watch the "special" spin-offs. Enough is enough AND remember, we can never get the time back it took to watch such mindless TV. I hope more will do the same -- don't watch.

Anonymous said...

RE: Anonymous 11/9 @ 3:07pm
Yes Anna was part of Jill's wedding party, as were all of Jill's sisters. I'm not sure if all of Jessa's sister were in Jessa wedding, but she also had some of Ben's sisters. Don't forget, Derick didn't have any sisters that needed to be included in that wedding. I think Jessa did the correct thing in including her own future sisters-in-law, in her wedding party. It wasn't necessary for Anna to be in that wedding party. JMHO

taurus0385 said...

So sorry you're going through some rough stuff Sharla. I lost my mom suddenly in August with no warning signs. We're all here for you.

Special Ed Lady said...

Anna had a very hard labor with all three kids. They have three healthy kids, maybe for them, that is fine. I can certainly understand that. Living near D.C. Is not cheap.

Londonbridges said...

Sharla, thanks for the super job you do here. It is appreciated. My thoughts and prayers are with you as you cope with difficult circumstances.

Anonymous said...

There's something sinister about the Alert Academy that Josiah attends. The website claims to provide emergency and disaster response, which sounds noble and self-sacrificing. But if you study the program details, you'll realize the true purpose is paramilitary training for a shadow army of fundie soldiers who will stand ready to fight whenever they are called.

nancy

Anonymous said...

Enough with all of the kissing pictures. These PDAs are far from being modest they are also defrauding (in their words). They are stirring up urges that cannot be righteously fulfilled in others, namely for me the urge to toss a bucket of ice water on them.

Modesty is more than covering your sexy knees or shoulder, it is by definition: freedom from vanity, boastfulness, etc.
regard for decency of behavior, speech, dress, etc.
simplicity; moderation.

Other than dress, the Duggars display few of the aspects of modesty. These pictures are just confirming what hypocrites they are.

Anonymous said...

Sharla, I am sorry to hear that your parents are not doing well. Prayers to you and your family.

Anonymous said...

Jinger is rumored to be in a courtship with this guy.

https://twitter.com/Jssteiger

Carol said...

Sharla, I am so sorry you are going through this. I have watched both my parents pass. Do whatever you need to do for yourself and for them. You only say goodbye to them once. This is a gut wrenching time. My prayers are with you.

McKimberley said...

I'm wondering: does TLC edit the episodes before they go to reruns?

I sat through Jill & Derick's wedding episode this weekend on a rerun and 2 "controversial" scenes were missing - the part where she says they don't know if Derick's mom "will make it at all", and the moment where she licked cake off Derick's fingers at the reception.

I may be reaching, but it's almost like TLC keeps an eye on the message boards and removes the controversial things from the episode before they get re-aired!

Does anyone know if this is typical of other episodes as well?

Anonymous said...

Why do these people think we want to see them kiss?

Anonymous said...

This is defrauding.

Anonymous said...

Sharla, I've been there too. Hang in there and pray for strength for yourself and all involved. You will get through it, we all do one way or another. Choose the healthy path of recovery and healing of your heart dear lady.

Anonymous said...

sharla i am praying for you all xx

Anonymous said...

Did they say where Jessa and Ben would live? I wonder if they moved into Josh's old house? That is a cute little place. I think Jessa's dress was beautiful. Michelle's dress was better too, did she wear the white shoes with it? I couldn't tell from the pictures. I was disappointed they didn't get a real makeup artist or hairstylist for the wedding.

Anonymous said...

Michelle is NOT a Mother to 19 Kids. She birthed them....PERIOD! The elder girls are all things " MATERNAL" to the younger ones. Her obsession is with "Babies", and then they are passed on to the girls, under the guise of a " buddy system". And Jim Boob, he's just a Horny Pervert who gets off on his own stupid jokes!

puddin' said...

@ Sharla

I am sorry to hear about your parents...this place will survive...you just be strong. Thank you for what you do here!

Dar said...

Just saw the "picture" of JimBob and Michelle aping the kissing photo of Jessa and Ben. I know pre-teens who are more mature than these two ridiculous people. It is about time they got out of their married children's sex lives and starting paying attention to and looking after the children for whom they are responsible. They even have the hubris to call what they are doing a "Ministry". There has been some arrested development in these two parents of 19 children. They exist in a "bubble" and their responsibilities are carried out by their eldest children. Watch a spin-off of this show. Not on your Nellie. There is nothing else to see.It is unfortunate that TLC feeds their egos, because it is all going to go South, and those younger children will not know how to live without the cameras. You can also be sure that when the cameras are gone, Michelle and Jimbob will not be able to stand each other. JMHO

Anonymous said...

Yes, I have watched the reruns of the show and I do agree that they are heavily edited. Those "controversial and non flattering" comments etc ARE edited out right away. How is that right? It isn't. They are quite aware of how they come across and try to perfect themselves in reruns. How is that a ministry? It's a business clearly.

Anonymous said...

Sharla I too know what it is like to have parents who are ill. I helped take care of my mom for over a year until she passed in March. Please take care of yourself.

Maria said...

If TLC did one spin off show featuring the couples, it would go big. Jill, Jessa, Jinger and Jana have a following, and they are interesting enough for people to want to watch them. If all four get married I can see them doing this, except for Jana. I think she'll just want to go away and live quietly. I'm only speculating, of course.

And Sharla, my thoughts and heart go out to you.

Judy said...

Did anyone see the People photos from the wedding? Jill looks terrible in her bridesmaid's dress. It doesn't fit her well as a pregnant person. Anna is wearing a black dress that is very attractive, and I'm wondering if she is in the beginning stages of a pregnancy from the style?

Anonymous said...

If the rumor about Jinger dating the Steiger boy, I will be extremely happy!! He seems very handsome and it may be a chance for her to get away as he lives in Texas and from his tweets, looks like he is a businessman.

Anonymous said...

I like to snark as much as anyone here, but one thing I will not snark on is a person's appearance. Jill is pregnant and I will cut her some slack.
People Magazine is not great on their photoshopping anyway.

Anonymous said...

If it is true Jinger is courting, I feel so sorry for Jana. I pray some nice young man will get her out of there SOON.

Quiana said...

UGH the episode where Josh and Anna are planning their wedding is on and I want to puke!
They both have on the same brown striped shirt which looks ugly and they took their engagement photos in! >.<

Anonymous said...

So I am watching the josh and Anna marathon, I came in on the birth of Mackenzie episode...and I was shocked at how Anna has become a mini-Michelle...back then she did not have that bug-eyed looking and exaggerated baby talk voice...in fact Michelle wasn't as bad either...what the heck happened there?

Anonymous said...

When he showed up to propose to her, she and her mother were wearing the same ugly shirt too.

Anonymous said...

I noticed in the rerun of Josh and Anna's engagment. Jinger was asked what if one of her siblings decided they wanted to date and not do courtship. Her response was "that wouldn't happen" How can that be if it's THEIR choice?

no name said...

Anna looks thin at jessas wedding. I guess she isn't pregnant. She looks good.

got2bdrc said...

I've just got to chime in on the "buy used and save the difference" mantra the Duggars are always spouting. That works only when (a) the used item is of sufficient quality and dependability that it can be used without breaking, and (b) you really do SAVE the difference. Buying vehicles that break down often and spending time and money on repairs might be more expensive in the long run. And if you take the savings and spend it on other things you haven't saved anything at all. And now, stepping off the soap box--thank you for letting me vent!

Anonymous said...

If the couple sets their own courtship rules why was Mechelle button her nose hand holding being done by Ben and Jessa?

Sharla said...

Priscilla and David had their baby girl this morning. They named her Davia.

Anonymous said...

Pic of David and Priscilla Waller's newest addition!

https://www.facebook.com/fanpageofdavidandpriscillawaller/photos/a.375922502547036.1073741840.165517756920846/462846330521319/?type=1&theater

Leigh Ann said...

"I've just got to chime in on the "buy used and save the difference" mantra the Duggars are always spouting. That works only when (a) the used item is of sufficient quality and dependability that it can be used without breaking, and (b) you really do SAVE the difference. Buying vehicles that break down often and spending time and money on repairs might be more expensive in the long run. And if you take the savings and spend it on other things you haven't saved anything at all. And now, stepping off the soap box--thank you for letting me vent!"

And you have the difference to save. If you're down to $5 and something is on sale for $5 you can't save the difference, you're broke! Maybe you can put the difference aside the next time you get the money but sometimes even buying everything use or on sale you're paycheck to paycheck.

puddin' said...

Since way back I have noticed how Mee-chelle *in this case its MeanMichelle* has been totally absent from Jordyn...she is young but she knows in her on way that..mommy (aka MeanMomma )is sure giving Josie lots of love..but not her this is sad. How heartless can MeanMichelle be...i'd say pretty damn mean and its wrong...as much advice that Meany does on child rearing she sure doesn't have a clue and if she does have a clue she is heartless & ignorant ...you DO NOT FAVOR ONE CHILD OVER ANOTHER...grrr it just frosts my cup cakes! I better hop down from the soap box. Christian behavior...i think not. *FREE JANA*
PS ;) BOOB and MEANY make me want to hurl everything they kiss and Boob with his idiot sounding little perverishcomments that he thinks makes him sound cute..or funny *i keep hearing that snickering with pudgy nose boob ughhhhhhh..nuff said from moi (making us all sick)Ok im now out of here...sorry fellow/sister bloggers its beeen a long stormy day and night wild wind. I enjoy reading all your comments.

Anonymous said...

Anna's parents seem like very nice people, they don't try to be the center of attention .They seem like loving caring parents and grandparents. JB always has to be center stage and he dominates every situation. Take a back seat for once, let others speak. It isn't all about you or your ideas. Maybe you are wrong about things and other people are right. I don't care for his judgmental condescending attitude. Mr Keller works with prisoners, he doesn't have to be in the spotlight, or on the cover of a magazine. JB could learn a lot from him and his wife.

Andrea said...

Davia . . . What an awful name! Poor little girl.

TaterTot said...

I an article about Benessa, and they had a link to his mom's Facebook page which has a few photos from the bridal shower here:

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1488990528030605&set=a.1383351391927853.1073741825.100007590162093&type=1&theater

Looks nice! She posted three pictures.

CatMom said...

http://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/duggars-issue-kissing-challenge-delete-pics-of-same-sex-couples-20141211

Interesting...above article mentions how JimBob and Michelle deleted pictures from their Facebook page. They have a right because it's their page, but it's funny how same-sex couples jumped on and posted their kissing pics. **Duggar-blush** Makes me smile.

Allison said...

I went to high school with a Davia. I always thought its as a pretty name. But I think it's super weird that it's David and Davia. I mean, I could understand a David, Jr., but why Davia? I expected something more traditionally biblical.

Anonymous said...

I think it is time the Duggars pull the plug on their show. They have been on TV for awhile now and also in magazines. But here lately it seems like they are getting a lot more bad press and it could be the beginning of the fall for them. I am not a fan of them but I see them going the way of other reality television families. I don't their family will fall apart but I can see some negative things beginning to happen.

Anonymous said...

per "Allison said... comment"

Davia is the fem version of David and it means beloved. I guess David wants his daughter to know she is daddy's girl!

Anonymous said...

I agree with anonymous @ 11/13 @12:48pm. I believe it time to pull the plug. After all how many weddings & baby births can they show & have people remain interested? Everyone knows that no matter what, Jill will have a home birth. We have seen 2 at home & one at the midwife's home, so it was the same thing different house. There will be all this speculation about the baby's gender,if the midwife gets there on time etc. Then there's Jessa & Ben. Again, same story lines just different houses. Strangely nobody even seems to know where they are living. I think we can hazard a guess that it's on Duggar property somewhere near old JB & Michelle. Can you imagine your new mother-in-law talking to magazines about how you're not going on a honeymoon near the beach because men have wandering eyes etc. It's beyond "reality," if that's what it's supposed to be.

Judy said...

Why would they pull the plug on the show? People are watching, in large numbers.

UKDuggar said...

Anyone seen the photos on the Duggars Official page on FB? I'm sure they stalk here and respond in the pics they post. Several prominent photos of Josiah and some of Michelle very "maternal" with Jordyn! Good to see but I hope it's genuine and not just damage limitation...

Me said...

The reason TLC might pull the plug is, that everything is now going to be the same thing different day. We no longer have Michelle pregnant, & giving birth every 18 months. The weddings, pregnancies, grandchildren being born are also the same thing. People will only watch reruns for a certain period of time & although the shows might be new , what's happening on the shows has been done to death. Maybe they'll do a yearly special to catch up with the Duggars.

Anonymous said...

Re UKDuggar: Where is their facebook page with those photos of Josiah and MIchelle being "maternal"? I googled Michelle Duggar facebook and Duggar Family Facebook and couldn't find it? thanks.

UKDuggar said...

It's Duggar Family Official on Facebook. Their most recent post is of their trip to the Ozarks and features Josiah and Michelle cozying up to Jordyn, among others. I've only just found the page myself, they post frequently, definitely bought into the whole social media thing.

Dar said...

I have seen the Duggar official facebook page. There is even a video of JimBob and some of the children welcoming people to visit their page(s). There are pictures of them visiting the College of the Ozarks. It showed them on the race track, going to compete with each other in a race. Isn't is sad that none of these young people will have the opportunity to attend any college or university. There will be no opportunity to compete with any people other then their family members. They are missing so much, not mixing with different individuals - A wealth of understanding, education, tolerance and understanding is denied them. Also on the "official facebook pages" There is a dedication to those people who serve in the forces, defending their country. Children of other people have lost their lives, but you won't see any offspring of JimBob and Michelle joining up. Of course they are very grateful.

I wonder if all the children will be allowed to access Facebook, without supervision. Jimbob and Michelle have opened a very large can of worms exposing them to the "rag" magazines and now this. I think he will regret it. This publicity is a double-edged sword, as many a celebrity has discovered. His children might just find out that he and Michelle are not perfect. If fact, there is a big world out there with a lot of positive and negative information about them and their lifestyle. JMHO

Anonymous said...

Little Duggar girls in pants!

https://www.facebook.com/269181913180625/photos/pb.269181913180625.-2207520000.1416099368./658333777598768/?type=1&theater

Anonymous said...

So Tim Tebow's mom came to visit the Duggars..(prob on a future episode).

Rumor mill- Tim Tebow wanting to court Jana!

Interview portion of the show-

Producer: So (Insert random Duggar name here) do you think a certain football star would make a good broth-in-law?

Random Duggar: Well...that is something to think about!

And it begins! I should work for TLC!

Anonymous said...

Article about John David in a potential courtship

http://www.inquisitr.com/1611043/john-david-duggar-courting-photos-surface-of-the-duggar-with-a-mystery-woman-photos/

Anonymous said...

TLC won't pull the plug as long as the ratings are high but it is time for the Duggars to say no more. I haven't noticed them being in the tabloids yet but I think it is just a matter of time. I don't think Jim Bob and Michelle's marriage will end up like other reality TV families but I do think they are on a downward spiral with what might start showing up in magazines.

I can't think of one family where anything good has come out of being a "reality TV star". Jim Bob and Michelle, it might be time to get your kids out from in front of a camera and out of the public eye. Give them their privacy before things turn ugly for them like the other families.

Anonymous said...

It has been 2 weeks since the wedding, so I'll start it- Is she pregnant? Is she pregnant? Is she pregnant? Because you know in this family that is how you rate success, and little sister want to beat big sisters.

Anonymous said...

That would be the best news ever in regards to Tim Tebow dating Jana!! I hope she finds the best possible guy and he seems godly and he is hunky and athletic.

Anonymous said...

IF there is a blooming courtship between Jana and athlete Tim Tebow (and that's a big IF), the Duggars will have to use another word besides "Nike" when alerting the Duggar boys to avert their eyes from a scantily clad woman.
Tim Tebow is a spokesperson for Nike.

Dar said...

The Duggars are all over the Tabloids. The weddings of both Jill and Jessa. The engagements of both. All the information regarding courtship, etc. People Magazine and Us Weekly and Star and Life and Style all have pictures of Jill and Jessa's wedding. International gossip papers, the same thing. The picture with JimBob and Michelle in the kissing pose, aping Jessa and Ben is out there. They will have no privacy again. What little they had will disappear. Once you let the press in, they will not leave. the more you object, the more they will press. Ask Kate Gosselin. They must have received a lot of money for the wedding pictures. There weren't any to be seen until the magazines had published them. One would think a ministry would get those photos of their Christian children' union out real quick, but money takes "dibs".

Virginia said...

Tim Tebow and Kana would be a cute couple and he would get her out of there into a wonderful life.

Bubbles said...

I have seen this occur before...mostly with Kate Gosselin's ridiculous behavior, but I have no doubt TLC does this.

Anonymous said...

It looks like Binboob and Jessa spent part of their honeymoon in Paris with TLC money and crew in tow. Jessa said she wanted simple for her wedding so that they could use the money for a good honeymoon. Well, they're having a good honeymoon alright but not with their own money. Write up is on Starcasm.

kindle.writer said...

Jinger was a young-mid teen then, and still super sheltered. It had probably never occurred to her that a sibling would want to choose a different way (especially if your taught that dating is bad bad bad)
I would be more interested in the answer now. If the question was re-asked if her, what would she say as a late teen/early twenty-something

Virginia said...

Jana

Anonymous said...

someone posted on another blog that Josiah duggar will be attending college next year? we will see if it is really true. I doubt it. probably college plus. for his sake I hope it is. these people have real trust issues.

Anonymous said...

The Duggars and Bates families have come a LONG way from being "reality" stars. There is little to nothing real about them. Everything they do is focused on making more money because of who they are. They can't even make normal announcements to family and friends. They have to swear you to absolutely secrecy. Case in point: Alyssa is pregnant. And if I am adding up the months right she is 3 or 4 months along as she is due in May. I am assuming they are not sharing the news because it will be a BIG promoter for their new show in January. Besides having that rumor confirmed by a close family friend, just look at her instagam for subtle differences. Someone commented that she thought she saw a baby bump. Absolutely no confirmation or denial. And they seem to always try to squelch rumors on questions about possible pregnancies or courtships. But going further, no more pictures have been posted showing her waist down. She is a twig and will likely show fairly obviously, fairly early. That isn't reality. That is milking the money maker. They are not honest and upright people. They no longer use the bible as their guide, they use their greed.
Ok, I am done gossiping.

mom in texas said...

So apparently the Seewald honeymoon is taking place in Paris, France. Two semi adults, barely out of their teens (well Ben isn't out of his teens) with no distinguishable jobs, are honeymooning in Paris? Thank you TLC and Daddy....

Special Ed Lady said...

Maybe the are keeping Alyssa's pregnancy low key because of Erin and Chad's feelings. That is very hard to want a baby and have everyone around you having them.

Anonymous said...

Yeah, I'm sure Josiah will be taking college courses, ONLINE, some distance learning program, Christian approved, of course, but that young man will NEVER enroll and attend a class in a real college classroom by an accredited university as it goes against their belief system. I hope that Derick's success has squashed that stance of the Duggars and maybe, just maybe they will allow him to attend a real school online and maybe get an associates degree in bookkeeping. They won't ever let any of their children go the distance and become something "real".

got2bdrc said...

I just looked at Jessa and Ben's wedding pictures in People magazine. Why are Ben and the groomsmen dressed like waiters at Farrell's? Jessa looks really lovely, but Ben and the groomsmen look goofy. And I was sad to see that the Duggar women continue to wear clunky, unattractive shoes. They really ruin the whole look for the bridesmaids. I guess this is proof that money doesn't buy class.

Anonymous said...

That is a point I had not considered, but if they are trying to be sensitive of Erin's feelings, it does fly in the face of all they claim to believe: "we are open to however many blessings God has for us ,." What if he chooses to bless you with NONE? Should that be his choice, should it be considered any less worthy? Should the Paine family practice their preaching, "The lord giveth and the lord taketh away, blessed be the name of the Lord"? If blessing God is what the bible commands, shouldn't they be OPENLY be praising, since they have CHOSEN to live their lives publicly? Erin could be SUCH an encouragement to fellow women going through the valley of infertility. So many women hold their views that life is sacred. Miscarriage, infertility, those are so taboo (except as a Duggar/Bates money maker in the case of miscarriage) in most fundie society. It hurts, yes. But it HAPPENS. Not just to Princess Erin. Not just to those whose only value seems to be reproduction.

Wampascat said...

Tim Tebow! Wouldn't Jim Boob love to get his grubby paws on his moolaw!

confused in Germany said...

First: Sharla thank you for all your work and I hope, that your
parents won't at least have to
suffer much, since it seems inevitable that the can't be healed. I pray for you and your family.

Second: Surely Erin could be helpful for other quiver-women who can't carry their children ful-term. BUT: that does not mean, that it is hard for her to
see babies born around her. She
does have feelings, so I would not outrule that they take them in consideration. Being the Bateses (was that correct?) and not the Duggars.
Still, they could do that in private and since I assume, that Erin will be able to see her sister waist downwards, when she does see her, not talking about it officially won't keep her from knowing. I think, that her family finds ways to console her, that are not talked about openly.+

Anonymous said...

I seem to have missed something here with Erin Bates Paine. I know she had an empty sac(?) miscarriage early on, but what is her current situation? Was she deemed unable to have natural children? Anyone know? thanks.

Sharla, I also would like to wish you strength at this difficult time. I have been there with my parents too and it's never easy. I pray you all receive what the Almighty deems needed to live it through; and thank you for all your work on this website and especially at this time.
GG in NC...

TaterTot said...

Another article about John David on the brink of courting and photos of the "mystery woman."

http://okmagazine.com/get-scoop/john-david-duggar-girlfriend-19-kids-and-counting-dating-courting-wedding-next-kids/

Csnee317 said...

I read that the TLC crew is along for the Benessa honeymoon so they aren't really alone. Would have loved to have heard that were really on their own somewhere taking a vacation.

Yes, very disappointed in the Bates recently. Kelly used to get on their blog and actually reply to fans pretty often. Its a shame when you can't announce or share happy life news anymore.

On another note - why is Jill not allowed to post pics of her preggo self anymore? I mean, they've already revealed the sex of the baby. For the first couple of months it was practically twice a week she was posting pics of her growing belly. Now she finally just jumped on the kissing pic bandwagon. I don't understand them anymore.


Quiana said...

The show is on right now. Where they meet up with the Bates to find out Erin is engaged. I know the Bates are basically the otherside of the same coin but for some reason I have no idea why I just like them more. They don't come off as strange at the Duggars do. IDK lol.
Also OMG! I HATE HATE HATE Michelle's hair. Ugh its the worst, it looks like a swamp monster on her head

Anonymous said...

Bates family commercial for their new show.

http://instagram.com/p/vUniN1Mbtb/?modal=true

On another note, I don't understand how wearing tight clothing during pregnancy is modest?

Anonymous said...

Where was it written that Alyssa Bates Webster is pregnant? I have been looking but haven't been able to find anything out.

Anonymous said...

The right up for Bringing Up Bates stated that one of the things they will covering on the family is medical challenge for Erin that may affect their ability to start a family.

Anonymous said...

Does anyone know where Derek Dillard works?

mom in texas said...

Not sure about Alyssa being pregnant but if she is I doubt Erin's feelings are being considered. Not because the Bates are heartless but because in this culture a woman is not allowed to have waning faith. Erin could never have negative or sad feelings towards a pregnancy or lack of a pregnancy. You are to trust in the Lord. So doubt, worry, sadness, fear are out the window. If Erin ever felt that way she could never express it. She could only keep sweet and smile through the pain. Which is really a shame since it is such a natural emotion to be sad after losing a pregnancy. This has to be doubly hard in such a pregnancy obsessed culture as theirs.

Special Ed Lady said...

Derick works at Wal-Mart corp. office.

Anonymous said...

per "Blogger Csnee317 said...
On another note - why is Jill not allowed to post pics of her preggo self anymore? "

There is a tv rumor that TLC or another network wants to do a Duggar spin-off with Jill and Jessa. If its true, that might be why Jill isn't posting regularly.

Anonymous said...

I was watching the Jill wedding episode, and my mom saw the part where the little kids do the proposal reenactment, and since she didn't watch the show, she asked "oh, is that the married couple as kids?" And then I explained they were all siblings acting like the couple...she thought that was really weird and incestuous. Seriously, what was the point of that? Ew gross of course it had a tone of incest cuz these kids don't see any other kids except during fundie conferences.

Anonymous said...

Jana has the saddest eye's. Maybe I'm the only one who notice's. She just seems so sad. What does she have to be happy about really? Waiting for dear ole dad to find her a husband and become a baby making machine.

Al said...

Alyssa Bates is confirmed pregnant- she linked the US weekly article on her instagram. Due in April 2015

pretty girl said...

anyone see this that tlc will be showing Jessa wedding next spring. another boring year. another year with just jessa this time. guess i will not be watching. time to cancel this show.

Special Ed Lady said...

I was waiting in the dentist office, and pick up a tabloid. There was an article about the Duggars. It was something like 15 things you do not know about the Duggars. Most if them we do. There was one that said Jish and Anna were being sued by the IRS for $10,000 owed in back taxes. Keep in mind it was a tabloid, so take it for what it is worth.

Judy said...

I was disappointed to see that next week's episode focuses on Amy going to Nashville again. I just don't care about that.

Wednesday said...

I just saw an online petition to cancel their show due to the kissing scandal, or kissing gate.

SweetPea said...

John David courting?http://okmagazine.com/get-scoop/john-david-duggar-girlfriend-19-kids-and-counting-dating-courting-wedding-next-kids/?utm_source=fb-JohnDavidDatingDuggar&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=facebook

Anonymous said...

I really cannot believe that TLC, is waiting until next Spring to show Jessa's wedding. By then they could have a child, or be just about ready to give birth. Of course, it would be great if they were on a second honeymoon to some exotic place. I'd love to see them wait the 4 yrs. that JB & Micelle waited to start a family. They are young & have plenty of time for parenting. After all once you become a parent, it' a lifetime job.

Kay said...

I know we all love to do some good old fashioned bashing and gossiping, but I've heard quite a few people call for this show to be cancelled. If you're one of them, there is a petition going around that's worth checking out. It calls for the cancellation due to the Duggar's views on homosexuals and their politics.

https://www.change.org/p/the-learning-channel-end-lgbtq-fear-mongering-by-the-duggars

CatMom said...

With the pictures coming out, does anyone think Mama Michelle and Papa JimBob are going to address why it appears that Josh and Anna lied about being alone on the RV trip? Jana was there. I can't blame her if she was the one who made the decision not to appear, but Josh and Anna still appear to have lied about it. In my dreams, I hope the reason is because Jana is courting someone from D.C. and she doesn't want anyone to know.

tulip said...

"Alyssa Bates is confirmed pregnant- she linked the US weekly article on her instagram. Due in April 2015"

Yes, announced on their Instagram BUT by US Weekly. Just plain ridiculous not to mention so sad that these people are selling out their families, at such a young age and apparently without a second thought. The very first official announcement isn't even a genuine personal message but rather through a media outlet, and a rag tabloid to boot. Same with Zach & Whitney announcing the birth of their son with a link to US Weekly. Kelly Bates has yet to update the family blog with the birth of their very first grandchild (hmmm...don't know why else a proud Grandma wouldn't do that unless their was a contract hanging over her head) Seriously, I used to think I really kind of liked the Bates, but I'm now officially on the other side of the fence. Now it appears John & Alyssa are also "stars" of Bringing Up Bates...ugh. How much more can anyone take w/ people that base their entire livelihoods off of making money from weddings, getting pregnant & filming births?

Cousin Amy again? Really? TLC, please spare us this utter nonsense of an almost 30-yr. old woman who has no more talent then the next gal singing in the church choir. What about the goofy lack of brain cells faking out Mom & Grandma pretending to get a tattoo. Umm, first of all, she's not 16, she's almost 30. Secondly, this is considered funny? Freaking out her 70+ yr. old grandmother thinking her granddaughter will go to hell if she gets inked? Oh, but she loves her Memaw (or whatever name she uses besides Grandma) That girl needs to get an actual life and stop trying to chase down Nashville dreams. Amy's lack of direction & still living w/ her parents doesn't strike me as all that different than her cousins in some respects, as TLC even portrays her as if we're following some teenager on her coming of age journey, hanging around with nothing better to do than posting selfies and taking pics of her lunch.

Anonymous said...

R; Tulips comments. If I were Amy, I too would try & ride the Duggar coattails. Why not? She's not in college, she watches what is being handed to the Duggars just because they are: The Duggars. Might as well take advantage of it if you can. I'm not in favor of living life that way, but that's what she sees, so I guess she figures she might as well get in on what she can.

Anonymous said...

I agree with a couple of posters here about their concern about the Duggars being in the tabloids too much and in the media spotlight. Sure such publicity has its advantages but it also has some very real disadvantages. I'm too concerned that things could get ugly for them. Being on this show has given them opportunities they wouldn't otherwise have. Fame can be a double edged sword. Another concern I have is that the Duggars start hanging out with A list celebrities and attending A list celebrity events and see them compromising and/or abandoning their beliefs. My prayers are that God can keep them humble and faithful to Him.

Wednesday said...

I'm tired of the Duggar Defender line of "at least they aren't the Kardashian's". I would like to have a discussion without it being deflected to another family that doesn't really have anything to do with TLC's Duggars.

Kardashian's - large family, started off as small potatoes. All the girls had jobs.

Duggar's - large family, started off as small potatoes. The family worked for a living.

Kardashian's - sex tape started an empire.

Duggar's - Michelle's sex life started an empire.

Kardashian's - promiscuous behavior.

Duggar's - promiscuous behavior inside of marriage.

Kardashian's - expect freebies.

Duggar's - expect freebies

Kardashian's - Chloe rushed into a marriage. Marriage fell apart and her family is there for her.

Duggar's - Jill rushed into a marriage and family is there for her. We will never know if the marriage has problems.

Kardashian's - scripted.

Duggar's - scripted.

Kardashian's - episodes where they go on vacations.

Duggar's - episodes where they go on vacations.

Kardashian's - have become more fashionable and over the top.

Duggar's - have become more fashionable and over the top.

Hmmm.

Patsy said...

IMO we are not going to see much more of Jill's pregnancy OR info. on Jessa because their stories have been sold to the highest bidder for $$$ (TV spin-off & photos in mags). Bits & pieces will be released to keep the public interested in seeing or wanting to hear more about them. ie Did they honeymoon in Paris? Where are Ben & Jessa living? etc. etc. etc.

Again, Jim Boob has trained them well -- keep that money train going for themselves & their siblings for as long as possible. If it weren't for TLC they would still be building their house & be unknowns with under-educated kids totally unprepared for living & supporting a family in the real world.

Josie said...

There's a picture floating around of Jill and Derick holding up their ultrasound photos. I don't recognise the room they are in so I'm assuming it's their own house. But in the back ground there is a huge sign that says "Duggars, established 1984".... So, my question is, if this is indeed the Dillards home, why on earth do they have a plaque dedicated to the Duggar family??? If anyone sees it, could you let me know if this is in the Dillard home or in a never before seen annex of the Duggar compound?

Anonymous said...

I think you're right about the Bates being under contract with their producer and magazines. Kelly wrote a post about their upcoming tv show and mentioned the birth of Bradley but it has since disappeared :/

Anonymous said...

Josh & Anna had an ultrasound done with Michael at a place called: "What's Kicking." Obviously a take on what gender is kicking the mom. It wasn't a DRs office, it appeared to be somewhat like a medical office in a small building with a nice comfortable room with the equipment for the ultrasound. The reason I remember that it was with Michael, is that it was Michelle that was given the paper with the baby's gender & that's how it was done with Michael. With Marcus I don't know where they went, just that it was Mr Jim that was given the information It might have been the same place.

Missy said...

It sounds like they came to the Duggars home with a picture from their ultrasound to me. That would account for the house(not the initial home) being established in 1984 Wasn't that the year Jim Bob & Michelle got married? This year was their 30th anniversary. So I think they were just at the Duggar house showing the picture. I know we consider the year we were married to be the year our home was established. I think most couples do.

Ginger said...

To add to my previous comment. We also never saw the guest quarters either at the Duggars compound until Ben moved into it.

Rudy Tecat said...

Kardashians: hair and make-up
Duggars: hair and make-up

Kardashians: Bruce Jenner
Duggars: Jim Bob

Enough said!

Anonymous said...

Josie, the sign that says "Duggars Established 1984" is in Michelle and Jimbob's kitchen.

nancy

Judy said...

I don't understand how the "leave and cleave" phrase the Duggars claim to ascribe to meshes with giving the kids a place to live when they get married, the kids spending much of their time with the family, etc.

Patsy said...

Um -- the Duggars just celebrated their 30th wedding anniversary so that would jive with "Duggars, established 1984" so I assume the house Jill & Derick were in while holding up the ultrasound photos was the Duggars compound. Makes sense doesn't it? Mystery solved!!!

Anonymous said...

us weekly magazine. If you check out Alyssa's instagram you'll see a picture of the article @webster4ever

Anonymous said...

Wednesday. God Bess You! You have listed everything I have been saying for some time. It's about time people woke up & realized that there is absolutely no difference between these two families. You are absolutely correct in everything you said. However I do wish that you had mentioned that there is one difference, the Kardashians admit they have a show. The Duggars absolutely maintain they have a:"ministry!:

Anonymous said...

The Duggars don't seem to believe that ANY of THEIR married children need to leave and cleave; only their children-in-law do. We see that their is a double standard here. Anna had to leave her family and join Josh. Ok, fine, as his work was in Arkansas. She's the "woman". Now we see Jill, who doesn't seem to spend one day without seeing her family or old buddies; doesn't breathe without her parents..and now we see Jessa, whose in-laws live in Hot Springs..why isn' Jessa moving to Hot Springs to leave and cleave with Ben? He was there going to school and working somewhere, wasn't he, before he started up with her? Why isn't she "joining the Seewald family"? Jill should be joining the Dillard/Byrum family and live very nearby Cathy. She is the one who might benefit from having a daughter in law very close by as she may need the help, companionship that Michelle doesn't need. They are all about themselves...Why didn't Jill bring the sonogram to HIS parents' house first? I don't think they did and Cathy is second in the loop there.

Anonymous said...

There is a new picture of Ben, his face looks like, what have I done? Not a happy picture.

mythoughtis said...

As a Mother of only sons, I can tell you it is normally useless to try to compete with your Daughter-in-laws Mom. Beginning with the wedding, you will never be first. You won't hear about the baby first, you won't be asked to babysit first, you will be lucky to get your turn at hosting holidays. And this is if your daughter in law likes you (as Mine does). Unless DIL has an issue with her Mom, or she lives farther away, DIL will just feel more comfortable talking to her Mom.

I was in fact surprised at how close Anna seemed to be to the Duggars... but if you watch closely she seems pretty close to her parents too. I bet there is a lot of phone calls going back and forth in this day and age of cell phones and free long distance. We've actually been shown several visits back and forth between Anna and her parents.

Anonymous said...

i keep seeing on face book that there is a group that is trying to cancel the duggar show. I hope they do cancel this show. As a christian I think it is a good show because most of the tv shows out there are not good. But this family is not living up to the real Christian standards and people are seeing this. What do you people think.

Anonymous said...

RE: My Thoughts comments.
I felt badly when I read your comments about daughter-in-laws, as I must agree with you. I must also admit I was one of those daughter-in-laws. I would give anything to be able to go back & have a do-over. I was really at fault for letting my mom always be first & always be right.

Anonymous said...

Watching all the sonogram with Anna made me always wonder how her parents felt, watching the show and seeing Michelle or someone else get to see first. I wonder if that person called to tell them or they had to watch the show to find out or was it all fake and everyone knew but kept it private for ratings??

Anonymous said...

No, Anonymous at 11/21/2014 1:41 AM, I do not believe 19 Kids should be cancelled because Duggars aren't living up to what you have called "real Christian standards" whatever those are supposed to be.

I also don't believe the show should be cancelled because of the Duggar's rightwing Republican politics, nutty acceptance of creationism, opposition to birth control and abortion, participation in paramilitary extremist groups, and opposition to gay rights. All those things, which are diametrically opposed to my own views, are completely irrelevant.

The show should stay on as long as people are watching it. Period.

The Duggars are an entertaining freak show of religious nutters that we all have come to love and hate during the past ten years. Many of us know the Duggar family better than we know our own. They're like the Kennedy clan, America's fundy Royal Family.

We have all watched the cute, little, tater tot kids grow up; the Duggar girls ditch their frumpy jumpers for tight, knee length skirts and black eyeliner; the ever fertile Michelle struggle through menopause; and old Jim Bob milk the multimillion dollar, reality show gravy train for all it's worth.

I couldn't disagree more with the Duggar's religion or politics, But for me, 19 kids is still the most entertaining show on TV.

Petitions or no petitions, I hope the show keeps going for at least ten more years. Hear that TLC.

nancy

BlueLights said...

There is a testimonial on the 'Journey to the Heart' website that talks of courtship and that the writer had been 'dumped' just prior to her Journey. She then wrote: "The day before the Journey ended, God answered my question of “Why did You let me love ‘Andrew’, only to rip him away from me like this?” I realized that God was teaching me how to love; how to really love someone, unconditionally."

That sounds an awful lot like giving away pieces of her heart! I understand the premise of courtship but as many people have pointed out, in reality it doesn't quite achieve the goal. I would say falling in love with someone (under supervision) and then being abandoned would be worse than holding a guys hand on a first date, getting to know them in private and realising there probably shouldn't be a second!

Interestingly there was also a testimonial from a Pricilla K. There is no reason to assume it is Anna's sister but if it is, she made some harsh comments about her family including that they didn't show love.

Sharla said...

I rejected some comments this morning for trying to tell other people what to do. If you don't like it, don't watch is one of those "bossy" phrases.

Anonymous said...

Josie being checked out by various departments at Children's Hospital was shown in at least two episodes of the show. They didn't show every evaluation, but Michelle did mention that there were several appointments and how long it took.

Another Nurse said...

I've seen Josie being checked out at Children's Hospital in Little Rock by DR Arrington, & then at a hospital or DR's office closer to home. They never went into a lot of detail about her progress on camera. Although they did say, that according to the graph they have she was quite far behind at that time, but they were sure she would catch up. I know she had a problem that required her to have eustatian tubes placed in the her ears, which is extremely common in many children, it has nothing to do with being premature. I know she had a seizure problem, more than just the once we were shown when Michelle & JB were away. As far as the rest of her development, I just don't think we know. I'm not exactly sure what Michelle would tell someone that she didn't know well, someone just there for the flea market, about Josie's therapy. Every time she came home from a DR's appointment, JB would ask how she was doing, & Michelle was always extremely excited about how well she was doing, stating that she was almost completely caught up with any other baby. Just a few residual problems that any premie would face. I always thought we should consider the source there, & just hope she really was doing that well. I think she climbed, walked & talked pretty much on target for a micro premie. I was actually surprised that she was having speech therapy, since the other kids obviously needed it, but weren't apparently getting it. As a nurse I know just about everything & I mean everything, including any follow up issues like various therapies are paid for by Medicaid. Of course the other kids wouldn't be covered by Medciaid for therapy.

Anonymous said...

The latest Duggar fam pic.

https://www.facebook.com/duggarfamilyofficial/photos/a.516618088471845.1073741827.510067475793573/559631937503793/?type=1&theater

1. A few of the Duggar daughters need to lay off the self tanner.

2. Josiah doesn't look like his old self. Hope he's okay.

Dar said...

The Duggars have a petition on their facebook official website asking people to sign to keep their television show on the air. There is one, as has been posted here, to have the show discontinue. If it were really a Ministry, I could respect the attempt. However, I really believe that JimBob does not want to lose the money. They can travel all over the states with their message. Lots have done that. They do not need a TV show to spread the word". JMO

Anonymous said...

I'm completely appalled by JB & M's feelings about the gay community. My brother is gay and has been in a relationship for 40 YEARS. I think with their supposed Christian upbringing they should be a little more tolerant of those who are less main stream.

Virginia said...

As a micro preemie Josie most likely qualified for certain therapies through the state. I have followed several quad mom blogs and almost all were micro preemies and almost all got state funded therapies until age three

Anonymous said...

The Inquisitr has a couple of photos of Jessa and Ben in Paris. http://www.inquisitr.com/1616700/jessa-duggar-and-ben-seewalds-honeymoon-location-revealed-it-might-surprise-you-photos/

Anonymous said...

Josie was evaluated at Arkansas Children's Hospital for developmental delays. Children are prioritized in Arkansas for receiving state services. They have limited resources so simply being a micro-preemie does not equal getting services unless problems were found. Then the severity of any problems would be scaled to determine if free services would be given. I expect most states follow a similar formula. You don't give state services to people who don't need them.

mom in texas said...

Poor Jana has to be stuck between her two younger married sisters and their spouses in the new family photo. I know that there is a lot of speculation on whether or not Jana is happy but one would have to wonder how could she be? The sad part is we may never know until Jana decide to have her voice, if she ever decides to do so.
Josiah looks much older due to his hair having that pattern baldness look to it. Maybe it's growing back from his time in ALERT? Josiah has been MIA a lot lately in the last year. What did he do that was so wrong? he used to be featured often and have such a wonderful spirit. Now he seems to be always in the background.

Anonymous said...

I don't like to comment on the physical appearance of the Duggar boys/men that they have no control over, like early balding. Those poor young guys just got the roll of the chromosome genes. It's not their fault or doing. Sorry for them, but it came from somewhere, maybe Michelle's dad, as JB still has his hair.
I feel more sorry for those boys, from Jed and Jer on up, as they really didn't have an opportunity offered for them to "grow", merely remain as Jim Bob's sons and do the physical work that their father required them to do...not much opportunity other than that for them. They really need to see that their older boys are all different and some like Jeremiah and Josiah are more "desk guys" and would prefer to "work with their heads", but they offer no opportunity to those guys....the girls are the same situation, as they ALL aren't limited to housekeeping and childcare. IMO, Jana would have made a great school teacher, Jill, an ob/gyn nurse, Jinger, a photographer, (a real one), Jessa, well, in the fashion industry, Joy, a great PE teacher,as she is more physically active...etc. and the list goes on....

Anonymous said...

Having seen recent pictures of Jill, (and I am sorry to hear about Derick's grandmother),that poor young man has lost a significant part of his family in these past few years), I do wish that Jill would dress like the "grown up woman" she wants to be now. She is a married woman of 23, and soon to be a parent. Why does she dress like a 15 year old "Blossom, from the 1980s?". She needs to get herself some nice tailored dresses, REAL heeled shoes and panty hose; lose the hair flowers and headbands, and sport a more becoming serious hair style..grow up, lady. Double goes for Jana.

Anonymous said...

I agree with what Anonymous Nancy said, the show should not be canceled. Yes they have different beliefs than a lot of Americans and yes they campaign for conservative politicians and conservative values but that is why our country is so wonderful compared to many others. We can respectfully have a different opinion and we do not need to think just because their opinion is different that they hate.

When did a different opinion mean we are haters? I think I missed something along the way. I have grown up and hung around with people that I don't agree with but that doesn't mean I hate them. I wish this mindset would stop. This is not what our founding fathers wanted for this country. They wanted freedom to disagree.

Just imagine if we lived in the Middle East, not only would the homosexual activity result in beheading but a woman dressed even as "modestly" as a Duggar female would probably end up being stoned.

So I agree Anon Nancy, let this show go on for as long as people want to watch them, even if they are just watching so they can criticize.

Anonymous said...

Does anyone know why the Duggars no longer go on the Today show to make all these announcements, or do they get more money from the magazine's?

Kay said...

You can have whatever belief you want. You can even act on those beliefs. But when you deny someone else the right to live their lives the way they see fit because it doesn't fit in with your belief system? Now you've gone too far. They don't get to trample others rights to "defend" their own (and I say "defend" somewhat mockingly because no one was trying to stop them from marrying, raising children, or being who they are, but they feel the need to do so to others unprovoked). That's why I signed that petition. I don't care what they do with their own lives, or their children. I'm not a Christian, so I don't care how they wield their particular brand of Christianity. I do however care when they try to meddle in laws and public policy that affect people they don't know just because they feel entitled to do so because they're "good Christians" and that somehow makes them inherently better than everyone else.

Anonymous said...

I'm appalled by JB and M's opinion when it comes to being gay. My brother is and has been with the same man for 40 years. I wish they would be a little more Christian when it comes to people who don't live a main stream life.

Dar said...

Well said, Kay. When they started this show, they did not proslytize. They were just an unusually large family, making their own way in the world, making soap, dressing alike, etc. As time went on and they got more exposure and money, Michelle and JimBob took it upon themselves to bring their politics and religion into the mix. I don't care what your beliefs are. Whatever makes you feel good, go for it. I do object to their trying to change laws that will impact upon other people. When I first started to watch the show, I enjoyed it, but not any more. Problem is, some will follow them just because they are on TV. They are arrogant!

Rudy Tecat said...

The Duggars were a clue on Jeopardy! last night, something about having (at last count) 19 children who all have names beginning with the letter J. It didn't stump the contestants.

coleen said...

So sad. DD's grandma passed away.

http://instagram.com/p/vxDNNemCYA/?modal=true

Just a thought, but since DD has lost so many close family members and with his mom being ill, I think he may be more dedicated than Jill to this sub-culture of Christianity.

Kay said...

You're right Dar. Arrogance is exactly what this is. The idea that their (*chosen*, I'd like to point out) beliefs make them the judge and jury for other people is just self-importance.

Beth Anne said...

Re:

But when you deny someone else the right to live their lives the way they see fit because it doesn't fit in with your belief system...

Well, to be literal, JimBob and Michelle cannot deny anyone the right to live their lives the way they see fit, as they are NOT making laws. And, to be fair, people on both "sides" of any issue, be it gay marriage or something else, have a right to voice their opinion and call their local representatives to share their views.

I think the point the other poster was making was that the term "haters" gets thrown around a bit too readily. Maybe the Duggars really ARE disdainful of people who are "different" than them (which I believe they are), but not everyone who feels in their heart that marriage is meant to be between one man and one woman is a "hater." Likewise, people who are vocal in advocating for the need to make gay marriage legal are not automatically "haters" of Christian fundamentalists.

I don't particularly care for pseudo-celebrities using their visibility to advocate for their political views, but unfortunately the Duggars have a right to do so and are taking advantage of being in the limelight.

puddin' said...

I sure hope that this Tim Tebow guy swoopes in and takes Jana outta the duggar trenches! He sure as heck is good looking... just the kind of guy that would look good with cutie pie Jana!

Anonymous said...

Maybe fame and "celebrity" seduced them and made them become arrogant? They dont seem humble anymore do they? Jet planes..instagram...Facebook....paris....millions in the bank...fancy tech equipment and cameras.

Anonymous said...

If its a true "ministry" they will not be the least bit concerned if they are on television or not right?? You dont need television to have a ministry. You can even quietly take your ministry on the road if you feel so called. Is the Jim man..the dad...an ordained minister?

Anonymous said...

What church are they members of? Have the childrens baptisms been filmed? Curious...thank you

Anonymous said...

Thanks Kay that was well said. It also bothers me that people are always referring to people as; "good Christians." I am a Christian, but certainly don't consider myself any better than anyone else. I know plenty of wonderful, generous, caring people that are not Christians. They are members of other religions. I go by how they live their lives & how they treat others.I really get annoyed when I hear the expression; "good Christians." There are so many good people that are not Christians, but are kind, generous, loving & dedicated to their own religion. Being a Christian does not make you any better than anyone else.

Anonymous said...

Have some of the Dugga's websites been removed?I tried to get on The Official Duggar Facebook page and the Duggar family blog, and all that appeared was a blank page. It also looked like some of Jill and Derick's and Jessa and Ben's Fb pages had been removed.

Anonymous said...

No, it doesn't look like any of the Duggar's websites are down. Far from it.

I just went on the Official Duggar Facebook page and it's up and running -- no problem. I checked Jessa's websta site where she posts all her photos, and it's also up. Ditto for Jill and Derrick.

By the way, one of the pro 19 Kids & Counting petitions now has 199,208 signers. You can add your name right here:

https://www.lifesitenews.com/petitions/defend-the-duggar-family/241725

Way to go, Duggars!

Ginger said...

Jim Bob Duggar is not an ordained minister. I'm not sure if Gill Bates is ordained or not. He did not go to seminary but apparently took some on line courses. Jim Bob has been too busy "preaching," to go to seminary & learn what ordained ministers have to. Unbelievable that these people can pass themselves off as ministers. Actually they call themselves; "Pastor." Not sure how they differ. I guess these men just hear God speak to them & they decide to pass it on.

Anonymous said...

Just thinking about John David and feeling really sorry for this young man. He recently stated that he has not ever courted anyone and that it is "okay". I feel so bad that he is 24 years old and has never had a relationship with a girl or woman! So sad, really to be this old and never entered into this. Wow...so sad.

Anonymous said...

I wonder what time Jana has to get up on Thanksgiving morning to put the turkeys in the oven? You know all the grocery shopping and cooking is HER responsibility; yet Michelle goes and invites all these people for dinner and doesn't give it a moment's thought about all the cooking involved.
I wonder which of her sisters are invited and which ONE is excluded? They didn't specify...I'd love to know if Evelyn was invited...can she bring a guest with her?

Anonymous said...

Article re: Jana and Tim Tebow

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2850690/19-Kids-Tim-Tebow-Jim-Bob-Duggar-intent-setting-daughter-Jana-Christian-football-player.html

Katie's Mom said...

Sharla,
I know you are going through a difficult time at present, but I'm sure your new grandchild is a bright spot in your life and certainly a reason to celebrate and enjoy Thanksgiving. We need to take what blessings we have been given during the year, and somehow manage to get through the difficult times. I hope you have a nice Thanksgiving!

Anonymous said...

I just saw the end of a repeat of Jill's wedding. It was bad enough that both Ben & Josh acted like idiots, but I cut Ben a little (very little) slack as he's a kid, but Josh has a very important job in DC, is the father of 3 children & throws on sunglasses in a church, & grabs his wife & kisses her. If he only knew how ridiculous he looked with his huge belly & shirt half hanging out. Doesn't he have any respect or his sister & new brother-in-law to act that way at their wedding? Michelle should be ashamed that those kids have no manners, but then again Josh is an adult & of course at least in his mind a celebrity. I'll never get over him throwing on those sunglasses & grabbing Anna, his property, no doubt about that.

Anonymous said...

I too have wondered if the kids were baptized. If they were we never saw it on any episode. I have a girlfriend that's Baptist which is what I thought the Duggars were, but she was baptized as a teenager. We have never seen anything about them being baptized, except for when they were in Israel & Jim Bob was baptized for the second time he said & then for some reason JB performed Amy's baptism there in the Jordyn River. Guess he thinks he's Christ himself!

Anonymous said...

With December starting next week means the a lot of Duggar birthdays. Jinger's 21st on the 21st (golden birthday and drinking milestone), Jed and Jer's 16th on the 30th (huge teenage milestone), Jordyn's 6th on the 18th (which always gets overshadowed by her younger sister's), and of course miracle Josie's 5th on the 10th.

First off since the Duggars aren't into drinking I don't know how eventful Jinger's 21st birthday will be other than being a godly young lady. Maybe they'll finally let her take photography classes since she'll be a fully legal adult. We can always hope. I'm just saying I'm 22 and I have a bachelors of Fine Arts and it could help Jinger in the long run.

Second for Jed and Jer since most of the kids seem to get permits at 14 I'm guessing they get granted their actual driving DL at 16. Either way both are very kind good looking young men and hopefully don't loose their hairlines like their older brothers. Even Josiah's hair is going bad. I think either one will start courting when they hit 18 before their older brothers do. Everyone likes to guilt trip Jana for being almost 25 and not courting but forget her twin brother John is the same age and also not courting. At least Jana is pretty inside and out and kind. John's getting a beer gut and is somewhat of a know it all.

Third for Jordyn getting the short end of the stick having a birthday not only an exact week before Christmas but to have her little sister's eight days before her and being lumped in with her. Jordyn's not turning 5 because she already is 5 she's turning 6 but since Josie's turning 5 that's all that matters. I still don't believe that the poor child got an actual 1st birthday celebration back in December '09 but Josie sure as hell got one the following year. Even if it was't aired for TV hopefully it happened off camera.

Finally Josie turning 5 will be the only birthday Michelle and Jim Bob will fuss over. At this point most parents would look into enrolling her into kindergarden the following September or when ever the cutoff age is depending on your state. Nope Josie will not only be homeschooled but still used as a pro life prop to guilt trip the women who are planning to terminate even more. Now unless the Duggars can get everyone a TV show then maybe we all could afford fifty billion kids but if not stay out of other women's choices. They're not pro life they're pro birth. Anyway at age 5 Josie's too old to be blowing kisses at crowds it was cute at age 1-2 but not cute anymore.

Last thought between December 10th through the 17th Jordyn, Mac, and Josie will all be 5 years old until the clock strikes midnight on the 18th or whatever time Jordyn was born. Am I the only thinking how awkward it will be next year December 10th through 17th 2015 when all three are 6 years old. "We are 6,6,and 6!" 666! I know it's cheesy but just think about it for a minute.

Anonymous said...

Just a random observation but have the Duggars gotten more and more hands off with their kids over the years? And crazy as this sounds, more and more strict? I KNOW they used to dress even more conservatively and obviously didn't have social media and less public presence, but I recently rewatched some of the early episodes. A couple things that stuck out were the kids seeming much more genuinely "happy" instead of like robots, and both Jim Bob and Michelle showing more genuine care and love towards their kids (both old and young). Michelle sort of looks "insane" now during her interviews and was much more "normal" years ago - perhaps because she is now not having more babies? There was a scene in which she was actually seeming to joke around with Joy Anna (she was maybe 11 or so) and gave her a full "frontal hug" and squeezed her and it seemed genuine. Now we rarely see anything but side hugs, even with the kids, which is highly unnatural. So not sure just throwing that out there.

Nancy D. said...

Hoping that the Tim Tebow & Jana rumours are true! But I'm not so sure I believe Jim Bob's claim that their daughters chose their own husbands -- I think the field of eligible bachelors was intentionally narrowed down for them.

In other news, there are finally updates on the Bates family website. Baby pics of Bradley and some other info on the upcoming Bates TV show. I think I'd rather watch them than the Duggars.

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