Free Discussion, January, 2017

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Heart in Florida said...

I have now seen posts that show Jinger at concerts and ballets. Jeremy has preached that wearing pants, enjoying an alcoholic beverage are not sins. Perhaps, just perhaps, he and his family are trying to show Jinger a world she was denied throughout her life as being sinful and just plain wrong to enjoy. We can hope....but I cautiously watch this couple's development because dear old derickdillard took Jill early on to the Cinderella play on Broadway too, and what come out of that? Nothing. So, I am staying tuned and still hoping for the best from Jeremy and his family. I secretly hope that the Vuolo Christmas dinners included some fine wine, music and dancing along with some of the best food Jinger has ever tasted.

Willow said...

I really agree with you Heart in Florida. I am hoping but cautious as well about J&J. Wouldn't it be so cool if ANY Duggar could realize that you can be a good Christian and not go to hell if you live your own life instead of what Dad and Gothard scare you into. The eternal dream of all of us now, for how many years? LOL. I think eventually someone will say to themselves "I just do not believe my in-law relative is going to go to hell for wearing jeans" or whatever. Women can actually decide for themselves. :)

Mickey2942 said...

Maybe this will be the year that more Duggar weddings will happen, for the Duggar men. I am sure young women are lining up to be married to uneducated, unemployed, men. And under the thumb of Jim Bob Duggar.

cali-girl said...

I read online something about the Duggars doing the Mannequin Challenge, so I checked it out on youtube.

The video is also posted on their FB website dated December 29, saying "Mannequin challenge, Duggar style! We have seen these videos on social media and Josiah got all the little ones to participate in one of their own yesterday afternoon! So cute! Enjoy"

This is truly a MUST-SEE. It is so incredibly bizarre!!! The Josiah-directed video is set up like children playing on a playground, but it looks sadly like an ambush/attack as several of the boys are pointing play guns at the others and Josie is holding her hands up with a look of fear on her face. Even little Izzy is in it! To accompany the video, there is a piano playing "All Come All Ye Faithful" HUH?????? Duggar style???? OMG

First of all, it sadly reminds me of the deadly attacks on children at schools across the country. And choosing this beautiful Christmas carol to go along with it???? This just defies belief.

Also, the message begins with this acronym ICYMI. I'm pretty media savvy, but I had to look this one up. It means In Case You Missed It.

PLEASE tell me I'm not crazy in thinking this is inappropriate and weird. The comments listed all say things like "fantastic" and "can't believe all the kids stayed so still" etc.

And beginning the post with "we have been looking at these videos on SOCIAL MEDIA"??????

I. Just. Can't.

Alisa said...

No, you are not crazy cali-girl. the Duggars are crazy. I had to check out the video and am absolutely shocked. Sandy Hook School killings immediately came to mind. why would the boys be holding guns on their siblings who have shocked and frightened looks. This is highly inappropriate and the religious song in the background is totally wrong and spooky. I hope the devil who made Josh do bad things doesn't make one of these kids go on a shooting spree. Some Duggar kids have been shown with real guns at shooting ranges & hunting. The video is disgraceful. Aren't there enough killings of children going on in this world? We see horrific stories of children being shot in Syria. Why would the Duggars glorify killing of children? What was going through the children's minds while they obediently stood still facing a gun? Is Jimbob so desperate to for attention that he permits anything that will draw in attention to his family? It is time TLC got rid of this disgusting cult and brought back some encouraging shows, like the delightful and decent Little Couple who are so giving and successful after overcoming difficult problems. Good bye Duggars.

Mikey said...

From the Duggar video, it appears that killing your sibling with a gun is okay. What lovely family and uplifting video (NOT!)

Bird said...

I think jimbob gets up every morning and says, what stupid thing can we do today to get me more money? You know, if this picture was shown on any of normal people's Facebook or other media, the police or child services would be called. How do they avoid it with the controversial garbage they post?-Im scared for those kids..

Ruby said...

cali-girl, So many things Josiah does are strange and just "off". He has been locked up in that crazy house for his entire life. Some say he is expressive and original. I think he is just plain suppressed, neglected, uneducated and lost. The latest video is no exception. I was creeped out by the music and the guns as well. Just so wrong on so many levels.

Auntie Jane said...

Has the Duggar family gone obscenely insane? There is no other explanation for Josiah's horrific video. Could someone help me understand what it is about? What am I not getting? I see boys pointing guns at scared little children, frozen in fear. What is it representing other then murder of the innocent? Is it a prediction of the Duggar New Year...being killed and going to heaven, hence the religious music in the background? Warning, don't drink any Koolaid kiddies. Aside from the Duggar chiildren, what message does this send to young people in general. I must admit I am disturbed by this video and all it seems to imply. There won't be any parents giving their daughter to Josiah after this aggressive video. also, thought they were not allowed to watch tv or go on the internet????

Emma Barton said...

It is time for social services to remove the young children from the Duggar compound. Josiah's video promotes killing of innocent children. There is no other meaning here. The boy is dangerous to even think of making such a video mock killing his siblings. How are Michelle & Jimbob justifying it? The video beats the 2 previous Duggar scandals.....Josh molesting the children & disturbing time TLC photographers got up close and personal as modest Anna painfully squeezed out her baby on the toilet. May God protect the Duggar children.

Sharon said...

I don't think CPS in Arkansas will be removing any Duggar children any time soon. They are fed (well enough), clothed, and have shelter. They are not being eaten by rats, are not suffering from parental beatings, and as far as we know aren't currently being physically abused. That's about as much as CPS can usually have time and resources to enforce. Not parenting to yours or my standard is not a CPS issue.

Amy K. said...

Now the Kardashians are way above the Duggars in a moral sense as far as I am concerned. The Kardashians actually work, admit they like money and most importantly, have not pointed mock guns at the little children. Can you imagine the uproar if one of the Kardashian adults made that video? Why not a big uproar about the Duggars?

Arlene Carter said...

Sharon, being forced to participate in the weird killing the kids video by an older brother is emotionally disturbing to little children. Hopefully it doesn't take being eaten by rats or sexually abused (oh they let that one slide by) in Arkasas to save the Duggars kids!!

Renee said...

Cali=girl. Thank you for the Josiah video alert. Of course it is bizarre, serving no purpose but to perhaps show that if you kill a kid, they go to heaven (Come All Ye Faithful?).

Sharon said...

Sorry, Arlene, but that video will not be a blip on the CPS radar in Arkansas. No judge in Arkansas would even want to hear about it. The absolute most that would happen is that a CPS worker would counsel them to not do it again or at least not make it public.

Fed Up said...

Since so many bloggers were impressed with Jinger's wedding, which I agree was way over the top compared to Jill & Jessa's weddings. The church was beautiful but usually there is a fee for the use of the church. Then there was Jinger's beautiful dress & shoes (certainly not from a thrift store), as well as the flowers. I have to wonder who paid for that wedding? I haven't read anything about that but maybe I just missed it. I can't bring myself to believe that Jim Bob opened his wallet for that wedding, so perhaps it was TLC or maybe Jeremy's family helped out with the finances. It will be interesting to see what type of wedding Joy has, which I'm sure will be this yr. I think it will be more in line with Jill & Jessa'a wedding as opposed to Jinger's wedding. Guess we'll wait & see.

Bird said...

The fact that those children are being emotionally and physically stunted and all that has been shown, including Josies accident, JB turns her over for all to see, to the filming of her seizure, instead of throwing down the camera and helping, disgusting, how do those cameramen handle this? I wonder, did JB tell them to continue filming, no matter what?

Just Crazy said...

Maybe Josiah has spent too much time at the Alert Camp they keep sending him to. I don't know what's going on in that house but it's not going to turn out well with all those young boys being taught that it is fine to get their brother & sisters & act out a shooting spree. This comes from a home where they were never allowed to watch cowboy movies or cartoons. I don't understand the parents. They make a huge deal out of frontal hugs & hand holding, have someone yell "nike" for what they consider immodest dress. Just because the Duggars consider someone dressed immodestly doesn't mean it's so. Now they don't think there's a thing wrong with their sons wanting to play that they have shot their siblings. I think they are all crazy. All their talk for all these yrs. about not allowing the kids to view TV. As far as I'm concerned, there is one show I don't think is fit for viewing, & it's the Duggars. It doesn't matter if it 19 kids & counting or Counting On. They can change the name all they want to, it's not a fit show for TV in my house.

KitKath said...

TLC obviously paid for it, Fed Up. It's unethical if you ask me. Of course they also paid for the Australia trip. You know...at least the Bates aren't complete sell outs--they've chosen a network in line with their beliefs. The Duggars are just perplexing.

Meme said...

So Derick is stating that monetary support from donors is making it possible for him to take "a long break" from his mission work. Seriously?!! Hey Derick, that $$$ wasn't intended to pay for your BREAKS but for your WORK. And there ya have it, donors, from your boy Derick - and I do mean boy. In his own words, Mr. Entitlement is thanking you for his free vacations. Thanks for the free house, free food and all the leisure time in the world to enjoy it all. Yep, Derick is one lucky son-of-a-gun. Between TLC and Daddy Moneybucks and "the fans/donors" Derick can spend his days styling his hair and polishing his neck beads. Plenty of time to iron the khakis or play a ukulele with the young Duggar boys.

I'm sorry, Derick, I misjudged you. I actually thought you weren't very bright. Is it hard to keep from giggling in Jimbob's face?

KitKath said...

Even worse, Bird: JB and Mechelle were out of town, at a paid speaking gig, when Josie had the seizure that was ultimately exploited for ratings. They were interviewed about it as a "talking head" segment for the show, and rather than expressing guilt or remorse for being out of town, as I know I would, she coldly said: "This is one of Josie's 'glitches' since she was born so prematurely. She has febrile seizures. They're nothing to worry about and will so away soon."

I was beyond shocked when I heard her say that. She is so emotionally detached from her many children. She only cares about them when they're under six months old--even then it's probably just for the attention one receives when she has a baby. Sad, sad, sad.

marla said...

What a scammer Dillard is. As a college graduate, there is no reason why he cannot get a job, even if it is temporarily working in a tax return company rather then beg for more donations while in the US. He should be ashamed of himself. We would all like to know exactly what projects they completed on their missionary stay. Nothing at all has been posted except teaching some local women to make jewelry...but haven't they been making jewelry for centuries??? The posting about the little girls having to clean and do laundry at Jill's house is another shocking event. What does that girl do all day to prohibit her from cleaning and tossing clothing into a washer and dryer? They are living free in Jimbob's brick mansion now, not exactly a average guest house so what money do they actually need if he claims he does odd jobs here and there? Jealous Jessa must be fuming that she has been put in Grandma's little house. Obviously Derrick knew what he was doing worming his way into the Duggard clan by marrying Jill so he could be a free loader/scammer/grifter. It was only 2 years ago that he was a normal looking man with a decent job? Now he's a bum. Ben hasn't changed at all, remaining the unemployed boy hanging about doing nothing, waiting for his 2nd child to be born. Soon we will see what Jeremy has up his sleeve!! How can he afford so many trips when he had not worked for 3 years, just got that job as a preacher and shows up in Texas just once between holidays?

Sharon said...

Where did Jill post about the little girls doing her housework, please?

KitKath said...

Wait, WHAT?? I'm hearing a lot about the Dillards' latest gritting schemes; did they post something recently about it? I won't give them the clicks on their site so I haven't read anything. Derick has actually said that the donations have enabled this "extended break" from work? What an absolute loser.

lisa mcgingess said...

seems to me that Jill and Derrick will not be going back to central america anytime soon? I think they will remain here until that kid is born and hopeful not return. jill is not meant for the mission field until it is in the safe country.

Aunt Bea said...

I agree with Marla and KitKath regarding the laziness and dishonesty of the Dillards. How can their "admirers" continue to donate to these two? I believe they have now been in the USA more than they have been on the "mission field" in the last year. How is that being full time missionaries? It is NOT. They really do owe the public and the donating idiots a full explanation of what their status is and what they intend to do now that Jill is expecting again? Since they stated while still back in CA that they wanted another child soon, didn't they think about how that would work out with being fake missionaries in Central America? Jill has conceived, so why would that keep them here? Plenty of women conceive, carry and deliver their children right there in the village they are stationed in. Why can't Jill? They seemingly have committed themselves to this life, so how does that work with having a new baby every year? I'm confused and disgusted with these two clueless wanderers.
Yes, why are the little girls doing Jill's housework? Shouldn't they be in school and playing instead of washing dishes and doing laundry?

Heart in Florida said...

Do you know who I feel sorry for? That kid that didn't get in to Oklahoma State because they accepted Derick Dillard. Derick took a desk away from some deserving applicant who most likely would have done something with their college degree. Derick has completely wasted his education, IMO, so far. He has done nothing with an accounting degree. I also think he "used" WalMart's benefit package for that botched up jaw surgery as he abruptly quit his job after the surgery and the bills were covered by insurance. How honest and Christian is that, Derick? You owe restitution to that student whose place you took in class.

Aunt Bea said...

I don't think it's modest for the younger sisters of Jill, or ANY sisters of Jill to be washing Derickdillard's underwear. Traditionally, that's Jill's job..if she isn't well, Derick should be doing the laundry, cleaning and cooking..what else is he doing? Not working, that's for sure.

Princess in Midwest said...

I'm really surprised someone in Duggars community doesn't spill the beans on what really happens at the Duggar compound. We all know that info can be found out if you look and listen.

Esther said...

Re: Jill's laziness....Why are these little girls not doing school work? I agree that it is awful that they must touch that filthy looking Dillard's underwear. Why can't Dillard throw his own clothing into the washer & dryer if Jill is too busy sitting around feeling sorry for herself, staring at her growing belly and complaining? There are only 2 adults and one child in that huge house so how can it get so dirty that 3 little girls must clean it? I feel Jill is in lala land, depressed but Dillard can wash a floor, push a vacuum around. The thing is, he's too lazy as well and their goal seems to be take advantage of others, like the donations from hard working, stupid people and getting all the labor they can out of her servant, illiterate sisters, sayinig that God told them to do it. It's either God or the Devil telling the Duggars what to do so they do not have to take responsibility for their actions.

DS said...

Finally had a chance to look at the Duggar Mannequin Challenge. This is one of the best ones I have seen. Awesome job of filming by Josiah. Israel did a great job of not moving for such a little guy, and it cracked me up to see that even the dog wasn't moving! I was not tramatized by the NERF guns by the way. We've have many of those lying around our house over the years, so they don't frighten me lol.

Katie's Mom said...

RE:DS's comments. If this is fit entertainment or ways for the Duggar children to spend their time it's unbelievable to me that anyone would be praising them. No wonder this is the direction our country is heading. Little children not safe in their schools, or homes or anywhere. I am appalled & will not apologize for thinking that anyone who is offering praise of any type, i.e. awesome job of filming, a baby (Izzy) being involved & doing a great job of acting for his age & the parents that allowed it, everyone last of them should see a psychiatrist. Normally, I think everyone is entitled to their own opinion but in this case I think DS,& anyone who agrees with her should sit down & have a long talk with the parents from Sandy Hook, after all it's close to the anniversary date of the shootings there. Has DS forgotten about Columbine, the shootings of the innocents in the movie theater? Let's talk to those parents & see if they think this is fit entertainment. Would they be proud of a son who made such an obscene video? The only thing worse than the people who are praising it, are the parents that allowed their child to make the video, as well as involving their other children in something that is both clearly obscene & frightening.

Emmy said...

It is the theme of Josiah's video that is disturbing.....kill my siblings..not the fact that they didn't move.
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laura said...

DS clearly you are in complete ignorance of these people if you had only good things to say about 'lets pretend to shoot babies and children to Christmas music' game.
How do they know about this challenge? Isn't the internet a link to the outside world? Just like excessive makeup and dirty greasy curly hair.
These vain idiots are really starting to tick me off.
Proud of using your little sisters as slave labor when both parents have no job and no school. No Derek Does not have a job. Subbing for a couple hours a week does not bring a family's bacon home.
He probably duggarized the truth anyway. Meaning it's all B.S.
Jill is DISGUSTING using her sister like that. She is absolutely indoctrinated to a horrible lifestyle. She sucks and thinks the exact opposite. How sad.
I spent years taking my beautiful smart sibling to movies, theme parks, parks, dance practice, baseball practice, school awards, etc, just like the rest of all you normal parents out there.
Putting them in a cage full of fear and hell and pants is WRONG!!!!!!
DS your comment is the worst one I have read since I found this blog fall 2015.

laura said...

The only way the children have to support themselves is by begging.
From their father or faceless, strangers.
They have earned NOTHING for themselves and have NOTHING to be proud of or superior about.
They are like pet store animals that could not survive in the wild.
They probably don't even know what the definition of shame or humility is.
I will eat my hat if someone can prove to me there is even a dictionary in that house.
I will eat another hat if someone can prove mechelle Is waking up in the morning and feeding and 'educating' cough laugh snort her own children as per the LAW.
Aghast.

Mickey2942 said...

Creepy. That was really disturbing. It did remind me of Sandy Hook.

cali-girl said...

In keeping with laura's post and last sentence, about DS's comment being the worst comment she's read on this blog, I think DS is a troll. just sayin'

Ellie On a Roll... said...

I know one thing, if Jana Duggar ever gets married I'm sending her a very nice shower gift, a wedding gift and then a baby gift when she does decide to have a baby. She is the most humble, hardworking and deserving Duggar in the whole family!!!'

Bird said...

Most of those kids are minors, what if they dont want to be on tv, what if they dont like having a camera shoved down their throat? I still remember jb telling the girls, I have a surprise for you today, your all donating blood! No choice...laura comment about a dictionary in the house, I seriously doubt it and I dont think she has ever cooked a meal, those married girls, who say they dont cook, did all the cooking, soap making and perms. Michelle did absolutely nothing!

Celeste said...

Laura....you are wrong about Michelle. She cooked an egg for one of the young children once so she in her mind she is a chef. Just like Jana is a concert musician, Josiah now a famous entertainment producer, Jill a midwife, Jinger a photographer, they are special people with natural, outstanding accomplishments that need no training or education. The truth is they all live in la la land in their own time zone, narcissistic personality disorder running rampant, pulling in new husbands who become infected.

DS said...

I guess I might be considered a troll by the moderator, cali-girl, but I've been here a long time and I'm very familiar with the Duggars. I first stumbled upon this board in 2008 so I've probably been around longer than some of you have. I just don't speak against the Duggars when I post, so my comments don't normally go through, that's all. I'm kind of surprised that one did.

Maybe because I come from a more rural, less politcally correct part of the country myself, I see something much different than most of you do when I watch this video. I see kids who were outside playing on a playground, then they froze in action while Josiah filmed them. (This is what I understand a mannequin challenge to be). The kids are holding Nerf "blasters" that shoot foam darts for heaven's sake, not assault rifles! My kids played with those all the time when they were growing up and my neices and nephews got them for Christmas this year. I'm sure if they had frozen in mid-play they might have looked like this too.

I've probably given this video 25-30 views on You Tube today, trying to see something different, but honestly, all I see are kids playing outside and having fun. Maybe because Josie hadn't gripped the chains of the swing yet when she froze, its being interpreted that she's holding her hands up to a "shooter"? But I don't see anyone with a blaster or foam dart anywhere near her! I don't believe that the Duggars were trying to be insensitive to anyone who was a victim of a shooting or their family members.

I'm surprised no one has commented on the little boy wearing the "I survived Roe vs. Wade" t-shirt around the 11 second mark of the video.

And I still think that dog is adorable!

Ashleigh said...

I have just read an article about Ben seawald it turns out the community members I. Town got on his case over an ice cream cone who paid for it. The fact that Ben works for jim Bob is not enough for the people who live in their community which is sad. You can't go out for ice cream without the people giving him a hard time about lack of job. Also things may turn around d Ben got a preaching gig it may open up other opertunitites for him. I don't know I feel sorry for him.

Paris Mueller said...

I agree with DS. I think it was actually cute to see the little Duggar boys pointing guns at the Duggar girls. This is the first step in subjugating the women -- start when they're young, I always say. And, this teaches the boys that guns are really safe. So what if you look at all the headlines about children shooting siblings after finding guns in closets and basements, and not being able to tell the difference between real guns and toy guns. Those are one in a million things; either the guns are not loaded or the kids miss (it'll be a few years before the little Duggar boys are allowed to practice with a real gun with their teenage sisters supervising). What could happen? I think that what this country needs now are more guns, and more people using guns. If just one of those kindergarteners had been armed at Sandy Hook, that whole "mess" could have been avoided. I think, if Jesus was around now, he'd be pro-gun! All this talk about turning the other cheek, about loving your neighbors, about giving up all your possessions to follow him, about rich people having as much of a chance to go to Heaven as camels fitting through the eyes of needles -- totally mis-interpreted. I think what Jesus meant was protect your belongings and your houses at all cost, even at the cost of a human life. What would Jesus do? Ready, aim, fire!

laura said...

DS- You were probably the first to use the Big Blue Begging for Baby Button on Dillard's page.
Surely people have better things to do than watch a single duggar video dozens of times.
Celeste- my husband has a large collection of baseball caps, I will have a good breakfast.
Also I have 6 siblings(post correction)
That I love more fiercely than I can convey to the Internet.
I guess that's why the Duggars supreme oppression and purposeful ignorance just makes my blood boil.

Heart in Florida said...

As I understand, Tabitha Paine, the Duggar tutor is now engaged. She will marry in March, so as per their attention span, she's outta there, folks as of now. What will Michelle do?
I think I figured out the way they've been getting around the Arkansas homeschool rule that PARENTS must instruct their homeschooled children....they're calling Tabitha a TUTOR, not TEACHER or INSTRUCTOR, thus indicating that Michelle is primary teacher. We all know that's not true. Tabitha most likely has been doing it all.
I wish her the best as she's 29 years old and can run her own home now.
Jana, please take note.

Katies Mom said...

First of all I find it suspect that DS would say she has been following this blog since 2008. If she did, the first thing she would have learned is that the Duggars have never been safety conscious when it come to their children.I cannot believe that a grown woman would think that young children actually know the difference between a toy gun & a real gun. I don't believe Josie does & certainly Izzy, at just over a yr. old doesn't understand. So what happens if Josie gets ahold of a real gun, when nobody is around? The Duggar kids have been shown frequently doing target practice with real guns, both at gun ranges, as well as on their own property. Joy was one of the youngest to pose with her own rifle around 13 yrs. old. Just recently there was an incident all over the news, where a little boy 3 yrs. old shot & killed his sister just a couple of yrs. older, with what he thought was a toy gun. It's foolish to believe that all parents give the proper training to their children regarding guns & the horrific damage they can do. The Duggars are well known for not being safety conscious when it comes to their children. You're a lucky woman if your children are walking around with nothing on their conscious because they never advanced from Nerf guns to something that could have devastated or destroyed a sibling, friend or neighbor. I'd hate to live with the thought on my conscious that "oh well they knew the Nerf guns couldn't do any harm, why would they think any other type of gun would hurt someone?" I wonder how many people out there, are saying to themselves, my children know the difference between a real gun & a toy? Maybe it is because you come from a more rural,less politically correct part of the country. That's what is frequently said about the Duggars. Of course, their area is referred to as backwoods & they are referred to as either hicks or hillbillies. On another topic. As far as the Roe vs. Wade shirt goes, we have seen that shirt & people have commented ad nauseam about it, for a very long time. It certainly wasn't the first time it was worn & shown & it probably won't be the last.

Stephanie said...

Another sad video clip of Jordyn telling Jill congrats on being pregnant. No emotion nor smiles and had a full laundry basket in her hands. I'm all for kids doing chores but IMO i think she's too young to be in full service laundry duty. The birthday video was bad enough and now this one just made me feel bad for her. I think she's missing her sisters more than we even predicted she would.

Susie said...

I suspect Michelle had the bright idea of sending the 3 girls over to do housework for Jill as part of her "Brood Mare" training program.

Sharla said...

What I got from this discussion - I've been doing this since 2008?! I need to quit. :)

Bird said...

I've been reading all these and thinking to myself, what have they done for their kids that they deserve praise? I cant think of anything and sadly, what is going to happen to all the kids under 18 if something happened to Ma and Pa Duggar? Nobody has jobs and I dont see them putting any of those girls in their will, its really sad to watch...

lisa mcgingess said...

who is this new kid the duggar took in? I have never seen him before was he ever at the duggar house before this? what is this kids last name? something is not right about this was he close with them?

Big kite said...

I wonder if JB net worth is growing or shrinking?

Just Me said...

RE:lisa mcgingess's comment about the young boy the Duggars have taken in. He is a grandnephew of Michelle's. Apparently there is nobody else in Michelle's family willing to take this young boy so he's ending up with Jim Bob & Michelle. We know he won't receive an education & will be subjected to their crazy rules of yelling out "nilke" if they see a woman who they feel is immodestly dressed. I have to wonder if he's accustomed to watching TV which he won't be allowed to under the care of Michelle & Jim Bob. Of course he will be allowed to stay up as late as he wants to & rise at the crack of noon. They haven't been caring for their own children for yrs. now & yet they are given custody of this young boy.

Ellie On a Roll said...

I think I figured out why the Duggars aren't signing up for wedding and baby gift registries anymore. They must have been hit with gift taxes and Jimbob hadn't planned on that!

What a life said...

Re: Stephanie's comments about Jordyn. You're correct Jordyn's too young to be in full service laundry duty, especially when it's not even in the home she lives in. If Jill can't handle her own housework because she pregnant perhaps she shouldn't be pregnant again. Where is her husband? Can't he do the laundry It seems to me that we have seen all the young Duggars with some pretty nice washers & dryers. When my daughter was small & I was pregnant with my second child (yes morning sickness, morning, noon & night, Jill.) My husband & I took turns walking to the Laundromat every other day. We walked because we didn't have a car, as we were saving for a house. I finally got a washing machine when my son was born & brought myself a dryer when I went to work when my son started school. There was such a thing as clotheslines then. If only my hubby & I had known about setting ourselves up as missionaries. Guess we missed the boat there.

Bird said...

The reason Derrick doesnt do laundry is because its a girl's job. Those boys wont do laundry, not even their own, its in the 'So you want to marry a Duggar handbook',Those manboys were smart, they just had to act like they were in love with the smartest best friend ever and they never have to work or lift a finger, daddy will pay for everything, all you have to do is keep having babies to insure $$$. Josh had said when he married Anna, once a boy gets married, they are completely on their own, no handouts from daddy..

Lizzyb said...

The absurdity of the Duggars' lifestyle just continues. Derick Dillard, for whom I originally had high regard for, has turned out to be a greasy scumbag, apparently content to fall into the Duggar way of gritting and living the lazy, undisciplined lifestyle. I do have hope for Jinger who has moved away and has been exposed to Jeremy's seemingly "normal" family. May she continue to spend much more time with them than with her own family! One more observation- why would Derick and Jill get this large house to live in when supposedly they are only in Arkansas for a few months? Seems like Jessa and Ben should have this house and the smaller house they live in should be the "guest house". I've always wondered why Jill gets the nicer houses!

five eighths said...

Ashleigh, please don't feel sorry for Ben. Lots of lazy young men don't work but they don't flaunt the fact on television and on their social media. Ben should get a sideways glance from the community. His parents and in-laws aren't telling him and someone needs to. It takes a village with these idiots.

Ridiculous said...

R:Bird' comment about Josh saying that once a boy gets married, they are completely on their own, no handouts from daddy. If I remember correctly it was when Michelle was asked about any help they might give Josh & Anna, her reply was "when you leave you cleave!" Josh may have mentioned it at a later time but it was Michelle who came up with the answer immediately when she was asked about helping the young couple. Of course, Josh did get a house to live in & a used car business. So, as always, I guess you can interpret what they say anyway you want to.

Grandma Wagner said...

Michelle and Jimbob have no reason to be proud of any of their children. They have accomplished nothing. It is a disgrace what they have done to lovely Jana. Obviously she is held captive out of fear of going to hell if she has an independent thought or does not do exactly as she is told. Now in her mid 20's she has never left the compound on her own, had a friend, talked to a man or gone on a date. The interview of last year showed her to be a very immature girl of about 12 years, having never even thought about what she'd be doing in 5 years. As the boys get older, they are getting creepier as evidenced by the inappropriate kill my siblings video posted on the internet. If they must stay in the Duggar compound, why do do something more more constructive and I do not mean jigsaw puzzles. Just as a quick thought, they could have a wood working shop & create rustic wooden garden furniture, trellises, that sort of stuff to sell with a signature, "Created by the Duggar Brothers". Some endeavor like this would keep them busy, make money but yet keep them pure, on the compound and away from the sinful world. Both Ben & Dillard need intervention but it seems their parents have disappeared from their lives as they have fallen deeper into the Duggar cult. There must be some paid work Ben can do to become a man and not remain a little boy taking selfies and posting pics of eating and ice cream cone. Dillard is truly scary, having lost so much weight & sporting that long hair, looking so dirty, refusing to use his college education and now begging for money to support their break from CA. How could someone change so dramatically in 2 years? That grin with those huge, fake looking teeth almost looks like a Halloween mask. I'd feel sorry for him if he was't such a scam artist. What next from this family? Both of those pregnant girls better go to a hospital for the upcoming births as they pushing their luck considering their near death experiences with their first huge baby births. What would happen if one of the babies had a breathing difficulty and needed immediate ICU intervention? 10 years ago it was interesting and fun to see how this big family managed but those days are long gone replaced by public curiously, watching this train wreck waiting to happen.

Sharla said...

DS is a troll. I rarely let anything through that she types. She shows up usually just to criticize other posters or stir up trouble.

Andrea said...

"Michelle and Jimbob have no reason to be proud of any of their children." Agreed, but let's not forget all the praise the children heap on their parents at Mother's Day or a parent's birthday. I'm paraphrasing here but it's not usual for Jill or one other daughter to post some video or post to the effect of: "Mama, we love you so much. You're such a godly example of what a mother is. I aspire to be just like you some day, Mama. You're the BEST." The entire group of them is so full of it. Honestly, it won't be a show if they told the truth: "Hi Mom, it's me, Jill, you're second oldest daughter. Remember me? Well, Happy Birthday, I guess. Too bad you never got to know me, but I know you're enjoying being a grandmother to my son as you never stop talking about how much you're enjoying this season of your life."

Stephanie said...

Everything Josh had he got through his dad (like many kids, I had no such fortune nor will my kids) I'm not knocking it, that's the way of the world, but the parents don't have to pretend they didn't help. Yes the car the and the house but mostly the TV show was their income. The tv show led to the huge job and house in DC. All roads do lead back to Jimbob. I always thought Jimbob himself would have wanted the DC job. BUT Josh, without the help of his dad, destroyed everything Jimbob built in the Duggar brand and now Jimbob has laid the rebuilding responsibilities onto Jill and Jessa and now Jinger. The humble daughters who were suppose to be traditional Gothard women are now supporting how many people? And I calculate that because I feel that Jimbob gets a cut of Counting on money as a manager or something. I don't even want to do the math of how many people that show is supporting. But I probably will guess.
I count 27 people, including the new kid Tyler, the adults still in Jimbobs home, the so called husbands, two kids. Wait, I forgot Anna and those four kids, that's 32 people. That's incredible IMO three girls supporting 32 people. I can't calculate it any other way. Maybe Jimbob has some income.

Madeline said...

What is the big deal about Jill doing her own laundry? Why is this even posted on the internet? There is no work or effort involved putting wash in machines. Women do it every day. It's not like she has to use a scrub board, tearing up her manicured nails and then figuring out how to use close pins to hang the clothing on a line. How lazy can anyone be?? Also, in response to Grandma Wagner's post, that woodworking shop sounds like a great idea. They already have that enormous storage building and the small shed they kept Ben in while he was onsite a courtin'. Even Ben could work with them, perhaps in charge of publicity, taking photos of something other then himself, packing & shipping, lining up craft fairs for them to promote their product (but not in the summer when girls walk around in shorts since those menboys can't be getting themselves all excited, having to hang their heads screaming NIKI !!

Ruby said...

Sharla, DS is a troll indeed. What a piece of work. We can only take it in small doses!!

Meme said...

I wish I knew why people keep giving money to this deadbeat family. And why no one ever asks for an accounting from Jill and Derick's "ministry". And why Jimbob still asks for and receives discounts and freebies, even though he is a millionaire.
I wish I understood a lot of things. In the Duggar's world, Grandmothers call and beg food companies for free food. Mothers sit at home and keep having babies even though there's too many mouths to feed already. Fathers wheel and deal and bleed others dry.....and then ask for even more. Parents accept others' scraps and used clothes in big bags. And your church is supposed to give you a house to live in... until they get tired of your freeloading, deadbeat @$$*$ and then the good fairy TLC takes over. And you get used to everybody wanting to feed your family a meal or give you gifts or take your picture. All you have to do is be a good little Duggar and stay at home and play - heck, you don't even have to go to school like other kids! You used to be a little bit ashamed when your elders begged but now it doesn't really matter anymore. Whenever you or one of your siblings decides to try to be independent you don't go out looking for a job. You GO ONLINE and create your own account, cause it's time you started pulling your own dead weight! Just like Mom and Dad. And all the good "little people" that your parents keep you away from will always be there to support you. Literally.

too bad,so sad said...

Grandma Wagner- I agree that the brothers would do well by doing wood work.
I just watched an episode of This Old House. At the end of the program there was a commentary where they addressed the total lack of younger people going into the trades as craftsmen. The episode showed the amazing quality of the projects that were done and the satisfaction of both the workers and the home owners. They also told of a grant that offered money for young people to learn under a qualified tradesman. Oh how I wish the older Duggars, male and female would consider this. Craftsmen can make good money. It would be interesting to follow them and see what it takes to do quality building. It would also be great to see them use their skills to join Habitat for Humanity. After all Jesus was a carpenter, right? If Jimmy Carter can do it at his age, the Duggars could do it now. They would get more positive reactions if they built for the poor instead of the over the top tree house for themselves. So much better than the court/wed/birth repeat or preach/rap/blog repeat. JMHO

Judy said...

I'm really wondering about Josh and Anna. Anyone have any info on what's going on with them?

Bird said...

Meme, you are absolutely right. I always wonder what will become of those younger kids, including the grandchildren, once all the hoopla is over and they are taken off tv and jb and Michelle are gone, is that why John david is the only one with a job, he becomes leader, not disgraced Josh?

Lisa Maria said...

Jimmy Carter is a great example for all of a man with a giving, Christian heart. I couldn't see the Duggars working for Habitat for Humanity with those "servants hearts" as Michelle says because that would involve getting up in the morning and associating with woman workers.
In a woodworking business, the girls could do painting, even custom orders with names, certain flowers, etc. with painted by Jana Duggar on the back.

Renee Jacobs said...

Anna & Josh you ask? How can Anna ever feel comfortable with Josh as the vision of him with the stripper must always be not far away, especially in intimate times she is obligated to share with him. I feel she must be repulsed at the thought of the other woman yet doing her best to satisfy Josh so he will no stray again. She's forced to live in quite a difficult world.

Hello said...

The Duggars would never think to do any charity work unless they will be filmed and make some money from it, or force the kids to do the work and take the credit for themselves. Jimboob would rather have peole know him for being the man who knocked up his wife time after time than for being a charitable person. Jillymuffin and Derickdillard are just as bad by setting up a site begging for donations to fund their lives while they do nothing to help support themselves. Jessa prefers to sit around taking selfies all day while Ben does nothing except pretend to be some kind of rapper. As far as I know, he doesn't have a job that brings in any money. I don't think being Jimboob's gopher pays very well.

I don't believe Anna will ever leave Josh. She has been trained to believe that her role as a woman is to get married, submit joyfully to her husband and have as many kids as possible. In my opinion, I believe that Jimboob, Josh and possibly her father have made her feel she is responsible for Josh cheating on her.

Jut Me said...

RE:too bad,so sad, comments about the Duggars doing work for Habitat for Humanity. A few yrs. ago they did some work for Habitat for Humanity after a tornado or hurricane. I guess when they realized they were not getting paid for the work that was the end of them doing any work for Habitat for Humanity. I remember the girls working in their long skirts & flip flops.

Meme said...

Bird, I get so peeved at those parents. These children are indoctrinated into not only a cult but also a way of thinking and believing that others are supposed to give you what you need. I think about when the Duggar boys decided to make movies. It required a little money, so what did they do? They did what they've seen their parents (and other elders and relatives) do - create an account and ask for money. So did Jill and Derick. And Amy. They've even seen Grandma do it. And Dad's middle name is Beggar, of course. So much for having "servants' hearts". These are not Christians. They are OPPORTUNISTS.

Carla Jane said...

too bad, so sad & Grandma Wagner. Someone should encourage the Duggars along this line of woodworking so they can have a sense of accomplishment and earn their own money. Also why can't the older boys buy a big mobile home and live independently on the property, caring for themselves like the adults they are? In that way, they would still be in Duggarland but not living like little children in a dormitory. This family cannot go on like this with adult men hanging about balancing pizza boxes on their heads and doing jigsaw puzzles.....and making a disturbing video of shooting. Just look what happened at the Ft. Lauderdale airport today. Now one should encourage shooting with guns, real or fake.

Ruby said...

meme--well said. These are not christian people, they are cultists with a television show.

Beggars said...

Meme,

You said Jim Bob's middle name is Beggar.
Actually, I think that is a better last name for that whole bunch.

The Beggar Family.

Jim Bob and Michelle Beggar.

They are a disgrace.

Aunt Bea said...

Meme: Yes, I agree that "opportunists" describe this family well.
Carla Jane: Yes, I agree that full grown men like some of the Duggar sons, should NOT be sleeping in a boys dormitory with little boys. They had 9 males before Tyler joined them..so now is that kid crammed in with 9 strangers? I hope not. I hope he has Grandma Duggar's old bedroom near the kitchen....like Alice on the Brady Bunch.

lisa mcgingess said...

who could possible encourage them? I do not think this family even have any friends? I do not know where those friends showed up for jingers wedding? never saw them before . The one named Rebekah is the opposite of the duggars she lives in nashville and from her Facebook page seems she lives a normal life? wonder how they met.

laura said...

Jessa in all seriousness, good luck with your delivery, may all go well.
It is much easier to snark than it is to feel terrible about something going wrong. You guys do seem happy.
Jessa you looked good in that picture in front if the white sheet with Ben and Baby.
Here is some good advice since your life seems to be defunct of that:
• Your family's elevator does not go all the way to the top, do not let them convince you to have another home birth.

•Please to not wear that awful skintight purple dress you did last time.

• Please do not give your child a name it will hate you for later and bring the wrath of many people, which leads to wrath about other poor decisions.

• We simply do not have the time or energy to waste on our disappointment.

• Please show your baby to the world in something other than an ugly brown probably pre-used towel. We know you are Happy proud parents but leave the 'buy used newborn towels and save the difference' at home this time please.

• Is Baby not precious and valuable enough for his very own new, cute blanket.

• Please take the time to properly recover for your next addition to your child army and get that Ben a a stable job Cuz honey the gravy train, it won't last forever.

Marla Ann said...

I hope that little boy Tyler is surviving okay in Duggarland. What a major turn about in the life of a little boy. Is Jimbob is showing this child some compassion and not trying to whip him into a Duggar clone with threats of going to hell and terrorizing with the Gothard recommended beating stick since he missed out on blanket training. Looking forward to hearing more about Tyler and his adjustment.

jassie said...

You make a good point, Lisa.....who in the world could get that enormous amount of people to attend a wedding, especially isolated Duggar girls who have no friends or old school chums? They don't seem to ever have aunts, uncles and cousins visiting their home. (Amy didn't attend, the only one they associate with that we know of). Where did all those people come from at all 3 weddings? Does anyone know?

Bird said...

My guess in regards to all that attended the 3 weddings, were they paid Jimbob to attend!

Outoftheloop said...

I'm so sorry for ignorance here, but could someone please enlighten me? I have tried googling to no avail. Please, who is Aivah? Please help!

What a llife said...

RE:Marla Ann's comments about the boy Tyler & how Jim Bob is treating him. I can't believe that Jim Bob would ever change his way of raising a child. The poor kid probably has to sit through devotions every night & then wander around looking for a spot to sleep. Then he might be getting up at the usual time,in the morning only to find everyone asleep. What type of books does he have? I guess those booklets the other kids study from. I'm sure he will have no friends except the Duggar boys. I believe he was probably in for quite a shock when he arrived in Duggarland. I'm sure Jim Bob thinks it's not too late to turn him around into another Duggar.

roddma said...

Speaking of Bates home births mentioned in the December thread, I think if any of them will do home birth it's Micheal. She seems to be the most into the beliefs. I think Erin would have if not for the complications and so would Kelly. Whitney wasn't raised that way so I could see her going to the hospital. I never heard Lawson sing, but I read where others don't think he's that great.

As far as cooking, cleaning, and child rearing in the DUggar house , there's several adults in that house It shouldn't all fall to Michelle. If anything the Bateses and Duggars seem to follow rigid gender roles. Since when you have you seen Gil or Jim Bob lend a hand with cooking, home schooling, potty training etc?

I alos think it's creepy for kids to decorate the parents' bedroom for an anniversary.

lisa mcgingess said...

i was watching the new bates show and seems gil bates is now letting the younger three boys attend this christian summer camp last year? I think because Tori boyfriend Tony Smith worked at the camp. also said he wanted to do a courtship with her but gil said no you need to wait and become friends first. I do not think he even knew what a courtship was. does not seem that he is their kind? said he goes to school in Tampa?

Sharla said...

There is a growing tendency to speak directly to members of the Duggar family. Please don't.

Hiker said...

I wonder if poor ol' Jilly Bumpkin still goes around talking about how everything is "surreal".

Maybe Derick can teach her a new word this year that Michelle and Jessa can learn, as they did with that one.

I doubt they knew what it meant. It just sounded like a big word.

Teach them copasetic or vascillate.
They'd have a blast trying to use those in every talking head segment.

Opie said...

Interesting that the Bates branch of the Gothard cult allows the daughters to go to college and Trace to train for a possible job with the stockade show. It is not normal however, for the grown adult children who are single to be required to live at home until they are married. This is "pimping" marriage.

Jenny Beth said...

Try googling Aviah Duggar and it seems it is some small child Jessa knew.

Pam said...

The Duggars only hang with others in their cult, so if each family has a dozen plus children the head count could reach that high.

Jenny Beth said...

Roddma,
It shouldn't all fall to Michelle, we agree but she should do something instead of letting Jana do everything.

Michelle fried an egg once. What mother of 19 can't figure out that one egg can't feed 19 kids plus one nasty husband and herself.

It was staged but how long has it been since she did any cooking to be so confused on what it takes to feed your family. Guess Who got the egg.

Melinda said...

RE;Roddam's comments about the other adults in the Duggar home so all the cooking & cleaning shouldn't fall to Michaelle. That may be true, however those kids were as young as 6 yrs. old when they started doing all the household chores including childcare.

Bird said...

I remember that one episode about housework, I think it was just for show, Michelle went into the laundry room, the floor was covered high in dirty clothes and Michelle looked completely bewildered and one of the kids was with her climbing it. It's one thing to give your children chores and pay a weekly allowance, it's another to make them do ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING!

Aunt Bea said...

I agree that Michelle does nothing around the house beginning when Jana was about 8. Photos are shown of Jana feeding Josiah, I believe and he was an infant. I have asked on other sites "what is it that Michelle cooks for her family on holiday dinners?" They are quick to post all the work Jana does in the kitchen, but I never get a response to that question. It tells me that Michelle hasn't met a pot or a real pan in the industrial kitchen in decades. Nor has she introduced herself to her fleet of washers and dryers since he meltdown all those years ago. Lazy, entitled woman. Where is HER servant's heart towards her own children?

Carrie said...

Forcing older girls to parent their younger siblings is so destructive. Chores are different and should be able to be completed in 1 hour or less. Routine round the clock caring for infants and toddlers and then some is not good. I call it child abuse. Letting the boys sit around and do whatever they like while the girls work is even more destructive.

The Duggar Tinker Toy Flop House is such a perfect example of what not to do that it is fascinating to watch.

Stephanie said...

MeMe's Begger post reminded me of when in the early days Jimbob had the crew hitting to road for TLC for Gothatrd and or appearances, I think Anna and Josh were newlyweds. He actually went into a McDonalds fast food restaurant and tried to get a "deal" the emplys there told home "no".

What made me more mad was was the minimum wage employees working on their feet at crummy jobs and this yokel spending $500 on gas was asking them for a discount? He has no shame.

Can't stand Megyn Kelly and I used to like her. said...

I wish they would all just go away. I am still beyond disgusted with the was Megyn Kelly Oh so gently handled that interview like they were aristocracy.

Meme said...

Yes, the Megyn Kelly interview was such a wimp out. Should have been a hard hitting, put-em-on-the-spot interrogation.

About that holiday meal in December...why was Jana making 90,000 loaves of bread? You can buy that, you know. I can understand making multiple homemade desserts or enough turkey for everyone. But was that much homemade bread necessary? It just seems like she should have taken some shortcuts somewhere. Anyway, cooking is how I show my love for my family. Most moms do SOMETHING to express love for their children. I'm serious when I say that I have never found what Michelle does. I see little from Jim Bob as well. Without the Dream Team (Jana, Jill, Jessa, Jinger) they all would have starved to death, worn dirty clothes, and had filthy hair and bodies (well, worse than usual). Why wouldn't you want better for your family?

Bird said...

She hates kids, she has a sick obsession with being pregnant and nursing a baby. Once the attention is off her, she is either pregnant again or stops nursing and passes the baby on to a buddy and starts over again. She has never shown real love for any of those kids, they just used to be babies who she could show off until she got tired of playing with them, like an old doll. Josie is her forever baby, but I see that she is getting tossed aside a bit too.

Aunt Bea said...

Jim Bob and Michelle have a personality problem with moderation. These two are extreme in all they do, don't do,don't believe and believe. The first example to me was that first year they were married, they said themselves that they watched TV for HOURS and HOURS every day. So what did they do? They didn't cut down on their TV watching, they threw their TV out and did completely without it for many, many years. It is questionable now, whether or not they have a TV in their bedroom and bus station "room". The problem started with them. All these years later, they still are, emotionally 19 and 17 years old, as they never grew up.

Ruby said...

Meme, if I can remember correctly, those are mini loaves of bread. I have seen those loaves before in past episodes and wondered at the extreme inefficiency of 1. making bread when there are so many more things to do in that house, like making a decent meal and 2. mini loaves instead of large loaves for a LARGE family??????? Does everyone get a personal loaf of bread?

Rudy Tecat said...

JB's dealmaking always bugged me. He's usually shown trying to make deals with small businesses, who can probably ill afford to take less for things. There's that little pizza place where he kept a coupon from 1907 saying that he can buy one and get 27 free; and there's the episode where they're on their way somewhere in the bus and they need a new tire, and he goes to the local tire place and tries to get it cheaper, while these minimum wage workers are all standing around watching the owner give JB their raises in exchange for some tv air-time. JB's lack of empathy is just too sad. And, Gothard's encouraging this as a Christian ideal is just criminal.

Torie said...

Aunt Bea,

I think you hit it when you said Jim Bob and Michelle Duggar are emotionally 19 and 17.
They want to play and be taken care of so they kept at it making sure they were always going to be servants available.

too bad,so sad said...

Jana and the loaves of bread...
We will never know. Did she bake all those loaves just for a photo shoot? Is this a Christmas tradition and she bakes the loaves every year and each member has their own mini loaf or does she, like myself, bake to relieve stress. I find baking especially bread very helpful to reduce stress, anger or to just have something that I can make that is very appreciated by family and friends and also by those who are having a hard time making ends meet. Bread is available everywhere but homemade bread seems very special.
It would have made the family look much better if all those loaves were designated to feed those in need. The state where they live has a large population of poor. King Arthur Flour has a program named Bake for Good. When you order from KAF they will even supply flour so that members will bake a loaf of bread and give it away. Opportunity lost again by TLC.

Trip said...

https://www.guidestar.org/search
And type in Dillard Family Ministries

Bird said...

Lol, I would love for someone to wash the Duggar dishes and have Michelle put them away, I bet she wouldn't have a clue where they go!

Meme said...

LOL..."Jordyn, sweetie, can you tell Mommy where Jana keeps the plates - not the paper ones - the ones that we don't throw away?"

Willow said...

Thanks for that info Trip. Interesting for sure but not a bit surprised. This group Dillard Family Ministries, et al) are a piece of work.

Eloise said...

Very shocking that the Dillard Family Ministries is still begging for money as they live in free of charge in a large house in Arkansas. What deceitful beggars !!

Allysn said...

How can the Dillard Family Ministries state that they aren't getting money coming in? We know better.

Pam said...

Not every Dillard Family listed is the Derek/Jill Dillard family.

Andrea said...

Pam,

If you type in Dillard Family Ministries it does return four so you need to choose just the one that is for Dillard Family Ministries.
Dillard Family Ministries which was set up in Little Rock
with an EIN: 47-4302759 | bridge Number: 4121837951
INCOME $0 ASSETS $0
You will notice that the others listed may have a bit similar names but are not pare of the Duggars and are in different states.

DILLARD FAMILY FOUNDATION Wichita Falls, TX (notice this is a foundation, not a ministry, necessarily and it is in TX

Kelly & Jeff Dillard Family Foundation Wichita Falls, TX (not them either)

DONALD DILLARD MINISTRIES Hartford, AL (This is in Alabama.)

Pam said...

I know. That's why I was cautioning people who didn't seem to get that.

Big kite said...

The Duggars worship only one god, the money-god. I find it amazing that they talk of others being greedy. They contribute almost nothing to society while they continue to take, take, take.

Ellie On a Roll said...

In terms of the Dillard's staying free in a McMansion while staying in Arkansas, it just dawned on me that JimBob is most likely gifting them (Dillard Family Ministry) the home to stay in. JimBob in return is making charitable donations to their ministry and deducting all of their expenses to live there. Almost seems like a nutshell game with the money and borderline illegal.

Willow said...

When I said "et al" I meant the whole Duggar family/Dillard family. I did not mean the other Dillard foundations etc listed there. I only found one that seemed to be Jill/Derick. Do they even understand that people can look them up online?

Ruby said...

So shall we take a minute to talk about Jinger's elaborate, extravagant wedding gown? The Duggar family is so boring that TLC has to bring in a fancy wedding gown designer who prays and understands sweet and precious Jinger's heart for ratings. For all their empahsis on thrift, what is up with the EXPENSIVE wedding dress? The designer flew in from Florida with not one but THREE prototype dresses, and flew back to Arkansas 6 days before the wedding with a "design team" and stayed in a hotel to finish the dress. Either TLC paid for this or it is free advertisement for the dress designer or both but what a huge expense and to-do for sweet and precious Jinger and Babe. Yuck.

Andrea K said...

"Dillard Family Ministries state that they aren't getting money coming in?" I've never seen or used the https://www.guidestar.org/search website before but the reason for a lack of details could be due to the charity having not filed any IRS Form yet. Hopefully we get more details about the Dillard Family Ministers and their income / tax exempt status soon!

Totally disgusted said...

Wow! Ellie that is brilliant thinking.
I wonder what other BS they dream up.

The rest of us work hard, pay our taxes and I am sick of deadbeats who cheat!

Totally disgusted said...

Willow. Good question. It would be great if somehow that ended up all over the Internet.

I doubt that clueless mom and daughter who run the Duggar Blog would allow it to be posted.

They cover up everything that I and others tried to post there about this family of clowns.

Totally disgusted said...

Jinger's gown was elegant. So the designer would be able to write off The costs to advertising and receive tons of free publicity. TLC probably promises them that not only will it be seen on TLC but, it will be in People magazine and with the Internet it would be all over the world.

apalled said...

When you set up a non profit you file with the Secretary of State. Checking the AR secretary of State it shows Dill and Jerick set up Dillard Family Ministries June 17, 2015..... that is correct in 2015 so they should have filed paperwork. The SOS shows they are in good standing so apparently they did file it, with that info.

We know they beg for donations with that big honking DONATE button. Where is the money?

Where is Bobbi when we need her to know about this?

apalled said...

They filed that non-profit as a Dom Bus Medical Corp.

Medical???

Meme said...

Don't underestimate the Duggars and their knowledge of how to use the system. They've learned over the years, and passed along the knowledge. I have a friend who is checking into this ministry but he hasn't found out anything. Will post the info if I find out any specifics.

Wilma said...

Are they considering Jill as a professional midwife when they filed as Dom Bus Medical Corp?
She has no license so could that be another stretching of the Duggar truth such as concert pianist, professional photographer, video producer as well as midwife?

cali-girl said...

From http://www.theknotnews.com/jinger-duggars-wedding-dress-designer-train-16247

Why Jinger's train was so long:

The process was intentional for the couple. “Both Jinger and Jeremy desired for the dress to have what I call a ‘train fit for royalty,’ based on a Bible verse that Jeremy had quoted to his wife-to-be,” the designer recalled. “That verse was Isaiah 6:1 (…I saw the Lord sitting on a throne, high and lifted up, and the train of His robe filled the temple).”

So Jinger is like the Lord?

Sally said...

Meme and all others who are interested in finding out the truth, check these out:

https://www.charitywatch.org/charities (Non-members...which I am not... are able to access this detailed information ONLY for Top-Rated Charities, so apparently Dillard Family Ministries aren't top rated.)

CharityWatch delves a bit deeper into an organization's fundraising and other accounting practices, including how much is spent to raise each $100 of funds that are collected.

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https://www.charitynavigator.org/index.cfm?keyword_list=dillard+family+ministries+&Submit2=Search&bay=search.results



Charities are required to submit an annual Form 990 with the IRS. The document provides information about a charity's finances and governance practices. Dillard Family Ministries is required to file a form 990-N (- Income less than $50,000 per year)instead of the full IRS Form 990.


Latest Form 990 Return for Dillard Family Ministries: December, 2015 Filing Requirement 990-N (Wonder what they will claim for Dec 2016. We all need to be watching this closely! Dec 2016 might pop up soon. Here is where to find it: https://www.charitynavigator.org/ and search under their EIN: 47-4302759

Ruby said...

jessa Blessa really must want twins or at least she wants the attention that comes with having two at once. How many times are they going to trot out this fake news narrative of twins?

Barb said...

What a life,

Do we really believe they have family devotions or was that another thing staged?

I will never forget Joy throwing the Bible. As a Christian, I find it disrespectful and was shocked that not one Duggar spoke up.

Barb said...

Roddma,
They should have decorated Jim Blob and ME-chelle's bedroom for their anniversary wiith his nasty old
underwear that he makes the kids pick up.

For crying out loud, how hard is it to pick up your own skivvies?

I'd be a force to be reckoned with in that family.

Barb said...

Ruby,

You hit it calling the lies the Duggars tell: "fake news".

That whole hot mess is vile.

lisa mcgingess said...

i hope jessa will have triplets because she would not know what to with all of them crying at one time. one of the little girls would have to come and help out. they just want attention. only way to get it is falsely say you are having babies. everyone will want to know because babies are cute. another way to fake the show so they get better ratings. that is why they are using derrick now he is probably not sick at all.

laura said...

That's what I thought when I read that. She is supposed to be Jesus' servant, not actually be him. Takes the fun out of the beautiful train. And a robe is not a wedding dress train. To me that is vanity, not humility. Where are the Bible regulations on wedding attire and daily clothing?
There's lots of messed up stuff in the Bible, they don't ever mention that.

Ellie on a roll said...

I'm tempted to donated some money to the Dillard's Ministry just to see what type of tax receipt I get for my taxes.
Another thing i thought of re: Jill getting the McMansion to live in...the bigger the house the more expenses Jimbob can deduct from his taxes. He keeps it up fir a decade or two and it will all be paid for by his tax deductible donations.

Delcey said...

Jana and John-David's 27th birthday was January 12th. I think that is today.

How sad.

Ashleigh said...

John david and Janna are pushing thirty where are the birdes willing to marry. A duggar guy where are they why is it taking so long I think problems are arising in their cultish world of theirs regarding their community I mean are they married to their husband or to their father in law I have to wonder what's the hold up regarding the guys in this family.

Andrea said...

Right, quoting the bible to justify one's vanity. Gosh Jeremy really does fit in quite well with the Duggar's. Jim Boob does stuff like that all the time . . . I had hopes for Jinger. Oh well, another Duggar daughter lost to marriage and childbearing. She'll be pregnant by spring and having a baby in the fall. Now on to Joy Anna.

Ruby said...

Jessa had a baby shower and guests brought gifts for a pregnancy center instead of gifts the Seewalds. After the endless "ginder reveal" parties, weddings, and random bashes it it good to see them think of others.

Heart in Florida said...

I don't understand how people could post on their "fan site" that this family was doing just fine financially before TLC came along. Weren't they begging for food donations to local charities and food corporations? Didn't they live in a church owned "free or very cheap" house? Weren't they crammed in small bedrooms? Buying used shoes, clothing, furniture, etc and not that great quality at that? How is that doing just fine financially? Where did this $250,000 campaign money come from that JB had to plunk down? Some sources say he got it from his parents. If anyone knows the truth about this family at that time, I'd love to read your post. I would like to be accurate about them, not mistaken. Thanks...

Just wondering said...

Are their any photos of Jana making her own birthday cake? Did she and JD climb a rock wall or ride in a kiddie train for their big birthday adventure? Or maybe Jill and Jana came over and Jana got to take photos of their big stomachs! Certainly it was just another day for Jana as JD snoozed on the couch!

Pam said...

Even in their fundie circles, who would give their daughter to a Duggar boy after learning about Josh?

Aunt Bea said...

We all now know why Josh was married off young. This family believes that one should marry sooner rather than later because of those "urges". So, what's the hold up with the Duggar unmarried guys who are in their 20s? NEVER a lady friend? Josiah's baby crush on Marjorie really didn't even count. It was over before it really began. Those guys are as immature as their sister-counterparts. Their parents have NOT done a good job.

Duggarsbegone said...

I am sure the reason for the other Duggar guys not being married yet is that there is no father out there who would want his daughter in a family like that. You will take note that the girls who are married are those who were involved in the whole Josh thing. Jana was not. I bet the marriages won'the be coming as quickly after Joy.

Aunt Bea said...

Well, since Jim Bob said the "Josh situation" was quite common among their sect, and even more pronounced, Josh's past actions shouldn't be a deterrent for this group to marry off their daughters to the Duggar sons. So, I still wonder why John David, Joe and Josiah are still "on the market"...and especially, never even taken off the shelf.

Reed said...

Jessa Duggar enjoyed a baby shower with approximately 130 of her friends and loved ones...Wow! that many!

I noticed that all the guests had that long hair, that "daddy likes".

That looks like ol' Sierra Dominguez in the picture ramrodding everything in her uber clueless way.

Notice the shower was at the Duggars home? We were always taught it is not proper to host showers of any kind for your family. Maybe this is different, since she gave the gifts away.....and it makes for a great photo op (for Sierra) LOL!

Ellie On a Roll said...

Anyone else notice that Jill, Jesse, Jinger, Jana & Joy were all bridesmaids for Josh and Anna's wedding? Josh wasn't included in Jill, Jesse, or Jinger's weddings, for obvious reasons. So, the Duggar's played all of us viewers, making us think and believe they were this perfect, close knit family when in reality they were putting on a phony front. It wasn't til the truth leaked out about it that they didn't have a choice but to distance Josh from the family.

Blah said...

Heart in Florida: I, too, am flabbergasted of the statements made on the "fan site" as to the Duggars' financial situation prior to TLC and would like a better explanation of their situation prior to TLC.

lisa mcgingess said...

I have been saying that all since day one? who would give their child to any of the duggar family boys. not even their good friends the bates? seems they do not come around as often. and notice gil and kelly are speaking in the land down under how come Jim bod and michelle were not given that chance? guess the big time Pastors in their so called ministry do not want them their?

Not A Mocker said...

We were always taught it is not proper to host showers of any kind for your family.

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May I ask why it's not proper? Why would you not host a shower (either bridal, or baby) for your sister? I'd almost think they'd be the best person to host it for you?

Sharon said...

Etiquette-wise it's considered rude and gift grabby to host showers for immediate relatives. An aunt is a good distance or even better a close friend is who should be hosting showers. It should definitely not a mother or MIL or sister if one cares about appearances.

Duggarsbegone said...

Unfortunately, this family doesn't care about appearances or any other form of etiquette. They are in it for whatever THEY can get out of it.

Eleanor M. said...

Regarding the unmarried Duggar boys....how would they ever pass a prospective father-in-law's questions, such as: What is the level of your education? (Kitchen table Duggar Academy degree) What is your job/career? Sometimes I help dad around property) How much is your income? (I have no bank account or personal money). What are your plans and dreams for your future? (Never thought about that yet.) Where will you live with my daughter? (Daddy will put us in one of his rental houses for free.) Do you have health insurance? (No, we do the birthin at home and use emergency rooms, where they must help us, for any medical crisis.) With this background and future, how many children do you want? (As many as God will give us.)

lisa mcgingess said...

if they ever hope to find wives for the sons they better start caring about appearances? because I do not care who you are if I never saw your family on tv or not if they act like that in real life I would never let you let your near my daughter? if they watch those shows or read any blog which I hope they do they know how they look to the real public eye. i would really love who supports the dillard what kind of nut job would possible give this family money?

Paris Mueller said...

I was impressed today when I saw that a Lawson Bates Instagram video had 33,331 views in one day. Then, I checked Jessa Seewald's latest Instagram posting: it had 85,492 LIKES and 1,013 COMMENTS in 8 hours! This is why TLC keeps this show going. There is a certain demographic it appeals to, and they're going to milk that until it is dry.

Brian said...

Actually it's how many people watch the show pure and simple. They don't care how many likes Jessa has on social media if the people don't watch the show. It's completely financially based what is shown on the networks. Instagram likes don't figure into what a show brings in with revenue or what it costs to produce it.

Karen K. said...

Sharon,
Agree as that is why we, too, wouldn't think of holding a shower for a family member.
Emily Post said it was considered inappropriate for a member of either the mother- or father-to-be to host a shower at the risk of appearing self-serving.

My mom got an invitation from someone she did not know but had spoken to (to say hi). Guess who was holding the shower....The dad of the baby was throwing it for his wife.

Karen K. said...

Eleanor M. said...
Re: background questions.

That is hilarious!

Carrie said...

At least the Bates house is designed to have separate bedrooms for the older boys, middle boys, younger ones....same for girls I suppose. Not all girls in 1 giant dorm room and all boys in another like the TLC funded Tinker Toy Flop house. I don't know how the Duggar's can stand this arrangement. I would be sleeping in a tent outside if I had to put up with that.

Bates and Duggar males will have a hard time indeed finding mates if that is what they want. Purity rings for the Bates girls just disgusts me....how sexist and controlling can these fundie cult men get? Their stupidity is only topped by the women who marry them.

Sue said...

Agree. You never give a baby shower for a family member. To do so is greedy and self serving. It should be a friend. I was invited to put cash on a money tree at work for a male co-worker whose wife was having a baby. No, No, No, No No!

Pam, I am. said...

Throwing a shower for a family member?
We were taught that it showed lots of class...all low.

Pam, I am. said...

Remember when Megyn Kelly went to the Jim Bob and Michelle Duggar home and sucked up to them like they were important people? The Dimwits, including Jill kept saying the word "safeguard" in talking about what Michelle and Jim Bob had in place to keep Josh from getting to one. What a bunch of lies. How is letting the kids sleep wherever they drop a "safeguard".

These people were not bright enough to use a different word from each other so it wasn't do obviously scripted.

And that mouthy know-it-all Megyn Kelly wasn't as smart as she thinks or she would have called them out on that obvious lie by showing the kids sleeping on the stairs or couches.


Heart in Florida said...

I also find these "purity rings" to be disgusting. Do they give their sons these too? No, they don't. I believe that a teen's parents, whether you be a son OR a daughter, should be interested in protecting the treatment of their children from those who they date and spend time with, but these types of people like the Duggars and the Bates families are TOO involved with their childrens' lives of all ages. Just creepy if you ask me. I think the need to re-evaluate this practice too. Those daughters just get too excited about this ceremony. A talk with ALL OF YOUR CHILDREN about keeping physical boundaries while dating is sufficient.

Edyn said...

Pam I am,

The safeguards those weirdos talked about should have been locking Josh in a room alone and at night.

Aunt Bea said...

I wonder sometimes why the Duggars scored an industrial kitchen AND a regular one. (Michelle calls is the 'pretty kitchen') and the Bates family, who also had 19 kids at home when their house was provided by TLC for them do not have such an industrial kitchen. Kelly has a normal sized one from what I can tell and seems to do fine feeding the family. Why couldn't Michelle do with one kitchen too? Or should I have said Jana?

Elspeth said...

Jim Bob is the simple answer on the kitchen. He got industrial appliances at an auction or going out of business sale and had to have them. So they took up room for a second kitchen that is seldom used as a kitchen.

Little Bits said...

Re:Ruby's comment about the generosity of Jess & Ben giving to the pregnancy center. They are just looking or good PR after the past months of the Dillard's begging for money. They are probably going to have another boy so no problem. No problem if they have a girl. Anna must have a good supply of girl's clothing too.

By-the-way said...

I have often wondered why there was never a courtship between any of the Duggar and Bates children. It seems that they are all in the same age range and basically the same belief system, although the Bates seem to be a little less strict. Maybe they knew about Josh and thought on no way!?

Aunt Bea said...

Thank you, Elspeth. You seem to know what's what about this family. I appreciate your response. Couldn't that space that was wasted on this industrial kitchen have been used for a better purpose? I think it was wasteful.

Do you know why Jessa bled so badly after Spurge's birth?

lisa mcgingess said...

so if he had to have them then they are going against what they preach buy used and save the difference? which we all know is a big lie. that money was wasted if they never use it. who needs two kitchens unless you keep a kosher home which they do not? these people waste so much money guess we know the really truth they have money to burn since they have a show on tic. better watch the money Jim bod may not have that show much longer and more mouths to feed in the coming year?

Just Wonering said...

Wanting to keep Politics out of the blog. I just can't help but wonder how the Duggars would have fared, especially Josh after all the support they gave Paul Ryan & Rick Santorum. They would show up in Washington at moments notice with the bus all decked out for whichever candidate the rally was for. They were both more than happy to have their pictures all over social media, with members of the Duggar family, but especially with Josh. After all, he was the Executive Director of the FRG group. Josh was setting himself up for bigger & better things in Washington. That was until the scandal about Josh broke. Pictures were immediately removed from social medial & Josh was off to rehab. I feel sure that except for the scandal Josh would have succeeded as an aide to one of these men in Washington. Jim Bob must be fuming.

Spurs said...

I don't believe the Bates parents would approve of a courtship between one of their children and a Duggar. I think they disagree with Jim Bob's methods and control. The Duggars are NOT a happy bunch.

Bebe said...

In the comments here you can see the defense fans rushing to defend jilly
http://www.inquisitr.com/3885382/jill-duggar-responds-to-allegation-that-shes-been-brainwashed-into-being-a-baby-factory/

Taryn said...

When Jim Bob managed to become a state Senator didn't they talk about how Josh would go with Dim Bulb Duggar and everyoney just knew that know-it-all Josh would enter politics.

So many secrets hidden and that is why he must keep the family close and dependent upon him, so they don't speak out.

Stephanie said...

Talking about two kitchens and wasted space, why didn't Michelle ask for a real school room? That has actual stuff im it like a real school. You know, books, maps, labs, etc?

Laurie said...

Speaking of that industrial kitchen...If Jim Bob were not so cheap, they could convert that space into more bedroom space or even a REAL classroom for the kids remaining. How can anyone learn anything at the noisy dining room table? Oh yeah, they don't place a lot of value on education. I think my headboard has more books in it than their whole house. Just fire up the printer to print another "graduation" certificate from Duggar Academy.

I love learning new things and feel bad for those kids. Their intellectual curiosity was squashed when they were infants and now are unable to support themselves, even getting married does not mean they are on their own. VERY poor planning on JB and Michelle's part. I am glad my parents raised my brother and I to find a career to our liking and get an education. I pray for them all, especially the little ones. I suppose they keep hoping "Counting On" will continue another season to keep all those mouths fed.

Good Point said...

I hadn't given any thought to the close relationships the Duggars had with Santorum & Ryan, but now that I think about it, I believe it's true that Josh was always being seen in & about DC at various functions & both those men were always posing for pictures with the Duggars. Yes they did always load up the bus & decorate it for whichever candidate they were supporting & head to the rally. I think Josh's job at the FRG was a holding spot for him until he made his way into the inner circle. Boy did he miss out on this one. Yes Jim Bob is probably fuming. Karma is a bitc..well you all know the rest.

Heart in Florida said...

I think Jim Bob Duggar is a hoarder. No one person that I have ever known of has that many possessions. That warehouse alone is a disgrace. The vehicles and heavy equipment are unnecessary too. This is NOT living frugally, modestly or Godly if you ask me. I also think that their lives are complicated, not simple. Their household is in chaos, noisy and has no real daily direction. They seem to live by the seat of their pants. Frankly, I don't think I could stand the noise level there.

Willow said...

While we are talking about Bates, Duggars and kitchens, I just wanted to mention Kelly doing cooking in the first show of their new season. Did anyone else see that episode? Kelly was in the kitchen, cooking up a storm, because most of her girls were still at college. She had the boys and Gil helping. Gil even went to the grocery store. I can't see Jim Bob or even Michelle helping in this way. I have seen photos of the Duggar boys washing dishes a couple of times but I wonder how often that really happens. Kelly, to me, is a much better housewife/mother. Not perfect mind you, but she is just more hands-on. I don't think Michelle even organizes or supervises anymore. Does she? What does she do?

laura said...

Wonder how it is for the boys to see all the attention and focus out on the girls and marrying. Do the boys WANT to be married?
Is Jim bin trying to hook them up? Is he experiencing rejection from other Gothard families?
We know the Duggars have not been ostracized due to the very large attendance of all family functions.
We know Jim bin has stated that other Josh situations are common in other families, how he thought people would shrug that off, justify his actions and continue with his deluded head up high is a serious sign that he needs help.
Do they like the lives they live, free of responsibility, the only decisions they make is what puzzle to play or what time to wake up?
Cannot really see them as heads of households or Lords over their wives. Soon he will run out of daughters to marry, he must be freaking over the sons' marital status. Or does he count on more babies for ratings?
All quiet on the Joy front..... Is there an engagement coming soon? This will make many people sad for her. She is a child.
It is wrong to use her as a pawn.

Missy said...

TO answer Willows question. Michelle remains carefree to travel anywhere at anytime with Jim Bob& basically keep herself available to joyfully fulfill his needs. I agree with Heart in Florida, that chaos is normal everyday in that house. Michelle doesn't even know if any of her younger children are ill & need to go to a Dr. that's up to Jana. It's another thing that's not normal in that house. When Josie was discharged & came home for good, Michelle took her for her "Well Baby Checkups." She explained to viewers in detail what a well baby check-up involved i.e.monthly exams to see that they were following the proper growth rate or every 3 months immunizations. Michelle stressed that not only Josie but all babies have theses. We have never seen anyone else go to a Pediatrician. Jill & Jessa are following their mother's lead. We have never seen them take their babies to the DR & for normal check-ups & immunizations. Something else that's always been the norm in that house...no regular medical care. I guess they see the Dentist because they are filmed & photographed so much. I'm sure TLC would have used trips to the Pediatrician for an episode. I couldn't believe that Michelle thought she had to inform viewers about regular medical care for an infant. The only reason they filmed Josie's trips to the DR's was because there was so much criticism about Josie being such a micro premie & people wondered what type of care she would receive once she was home in their house with so many other kids.

Elspeth said...

It's good to remember that just because we don't see something on the show, it doesn't mean it doesn't happen. The pediatrician could refuse to be filmed, the production crew could decide well baby checks are too boring to bother filming, the parents of the infants could choose not to have them filmed. We, thankfully, haven't seen Jim Bob shower, but he must once in awhile. I'm guessing a check or two on Josie was shown to 1) prove she had them, 2) because people had questions, and 3) Josie wasn't an average infant.

Aunt Bea said...

Once again, thank you, Elspeth for your post. I still think Jill and Jessa should say what level of training is caring for them: an ob/gyn, ob/gyn pa, midwife, midwife assistant, Jill or NO ONE...After those botched home deliveries, Anna's included, they should clarify this.

Missy said...

It seems to me that the film crew will film anything & everything especially anything that shows the Duggars in a good light. We saw the OB/GYN DR Sarver allow them to interrupt & film everything in her office, except of course when then are going to be seeing Michelle's tummy. All the pediatricians have allowed filming when the Duggars have showed up, as well as the emergency when their son was injured falling into the dark orchestra pit. Many people were appalled at the filming allowed in the NICU of the hospital where Josie was but it continued until she as discharged. What they did with their other patient & their families we don't know as it was all about Josie & the Duggars. They were also welcomed back for filming a number of times. It seems that anywhere they go or at least at that time they were there welcomed along with the film crew with open arms. As far as the film crew deciding it was too boring how many times have we seen the stick that one of them has peeded on filmed for posterity?

Big kite said...

Elspeth, I agree with the premise that not seeing something on the show does not preclude it from happening.

However, I must respectfully disagree with the idea that the producers might think that well baby checks are too boring to film as MOST of what they film IS extremely boring.

The producers, I suspect, are desperate for things to film as is evidenced by the amount of repeated material and the glacial show pace.

Why Not said...

RE:Aunt Bea comment. You are absolutely correct about the fact that they should say what level of training their caregiver has had, however don't look for that to be showed as I don't believe there is any real skilled medical care these girls are receiving. I'm sorry to say this but I really do fear something tragic is headed their way, especially with Jessa giving birth to twins or quads or whatever. I shouldn't even make fun as this is so much more serious than they seem to realize.

mickey said...

I wonder how long the "Counting On" checks will keep coming? What will happen to this family when the TLC money train is over...

Over Them said...

RE:Missy's comments & Elspeth's. I think we should remember that there's a difference between being filmed going to the pediatrician frequently, as opposed to never even one episode on another child in the family other than Josie, going for a well baby check-up & Michelle explaining to viewers exactly what a well baby check-up entails, was ridiculous. There were so many concessions made to the Duggars when Josie was in the NICU, we have no idea where the other babies or their parents were while they were only showing Josie, Michelle & Jim Bob. It certainly appeared that it was deliberately meant just to show the Duggars & their situation. Eventually they did show the other young women (forget her name) who has Samuel & there was a little filming of her with Michelle. To me it appeared to just be more PR fro the Duggars. Michelle praying for the other baby etc.

Elspeth said...

Obviously there is a big difference in what a few readers here want to see and what the producers want to show. I've seen some cut scenes from a different reality show that were more interesting to me personally than some that made the episode. The producers said they were going for "the broadest appeal." That may well be the philosophy in producing the Duggars.

Meme said...

Watching almost ALL of the Duggars as they go to pick out Jinger's wedding dress is ridiculous. God forbid that Jinger and Michelle go alone without all the pregnant-sisters-pushing-baby-strollers. Michelle with her sing-songy, precious voice is so annoying. Someone should publish a Duggar Vocabulary Book of favorite words: cherish, amazing, precious, life, path, special, advice, moments, hearts, pieces, tummy, expecting, energy, seasons, etc. They are a cookie cutter family. One word that will NEVER be a part of their vocabulary: unique.

So...all the way to D.C. for a dress. This can only mean one thing, of course. It is free. Oh, but there WAS one funny thing. The shop owner stole Michelle's thunder with all of her squealing and clapping. LOL. Otherwise, it was a typical episode. Michelle is still wearing black leotards and her heavy, lunch lady shoes. Derick still favors ponytails in keeping with his cool dude image.

Tanna said...

I hope Joy uses Jinger's wedding planner and not Sierra Jo Dominiguez whose work is so bad it looks like it should have it's own Pinterest page called Hillbilly Hoe-down. When with that poor, pitiful Sierra give it up?

zelda said...

It sounds sad but I feel caring people are seriously concerned about something bad to happening during the Jessa & Jill births considering the serious issues with the first births. Jill is lucky she and Isreal survived. There is such a thing as stressing out a baby too long in the childbirth process and also big headed babies can get stuck. This is dangerous home birthing going on here. I cannot imagine either of these girls not going to a hospital this time in light of their near death experiences with the first babies and the many hours of pain. I have heard that subsequent babies are often larger then first babies. Jill has relatively new surgery scars and Jessa must have some weakness in here where the uncontrolled bleeding originated.

Lindsey said...

I agree with Elspeth's comment about the produces going for the broadest appeal. I too think they could have showed the younger Duggar children, Jenny, Jordyn, having a check-up. Apparently it wasn't important until Josie's birth as with many other things in the Duggar household, i.e. children washing their hands before handling a brand new infant. I agree it would have bee more interesting to see Jessa take her baby to the Dr. just once compared to how many times, starting with Michelle & Anna & then onto Jill & Jessa we have seen the stick the girls peeded on.

Vocabulary said...

Michelle wears black stockings or perhaps tights. A leotard is more like a pantless body suit.

taryn said...

Daily Mail is reporting that Jason, age 16, bought a house.

I have to wonder if Jason got first time home buyer money to get into it. Betcha he isn't the first Duggar to do that.

Nancy G. said...

Re: Meme's Duggar vocabulary..don't forget Nike!! and we can add their stock phrases too such as: servant's heart, Duggar time, getting their energy out, side hug, buy used and save, remaining sweet & always be available. It would be amusing to write a short script using Dugger words & phrases only.

annie Lester said...

Now all Jason needs is a job so at the perfect courtin' age of 17 (according to Anna), he can court, marry and beome a daddy by age 19. Maybe all the comments about the lazy, jigsaw puzzle working Duggar boys have prompted Jimbob think of their bleak futures. Maybe he thinks Jason is the most marriageable boy so he gave him some TLC money to buy a house i preparation. Could education and jobs for the boy/men be next? Doubt it ....that' means dealing with Nike sinful real world.

Duggarsbegone said...

I don't see how Jason could buy a house. You have to be 18 to sign a contract so we know who REALLY owns that house.

Ellington said...

Is it just me or are others having a feeling of dread regarding Jessa & Jill's upcoming baby births? How many times can these clueless girls safely deliver babies without medical help?
It seems like there should be an intervention on their behalf at this point. I don't know who or how but these girls need to face reality regarding the safety of themselves and their newborns.

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