Jill is Pregnant Again

It's in People and on Derick's twitter.

Some posts were approved earlier today and now I don't see them.  Sorry, I don't know where they went.


Announcement on Dillard Family Blog:
Welcome to the family, Samuel Scott!
July 8, 2017
We are excited to finally announce the arrival of Samuel Scott Dillard! The newest addition to our family arrived on Saturday, July 8, 2017 at 1:02pm.  He weighs 9lb 10oz and is 22” long. After 40 of labor, he was delivered via C-section at the hospital. Thank you for your continued prayers and support!

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Hailee said...


That poor baby may have the 'encephalitic cry'. Bless his little heart.

Used Car Salesman said...

Maybe bit showing or talking about Jill was an attempt to get everyone buzzing about the Duggars so they forget about Josh's newest lawsuit.

Used Car Salesman said...

In the latest lawsuit associated with his family, Josh Duggar indicates that as a teenager, he suffered a traumatic experience and that he’s being forced to relive that experience thanks to the publication of a police report detailing abuse allegations from that time. http://www.inquisitr.com/4355724/josh-duggar-describes-traumatic-experience-as-a-teenager-says-hes-been-forced-to-relive-it/

stupidsidehugs said...

Possible complications with Jill brought about by bloody minded fundies leaving the birth in God's hands. God gave us commonsense too you know. Maybe Drs have told them this. Duggars have no one to blame, they messed up big time, so no pics till Jill is out of ICU ... One scenario.

Emma said...

Only one sister so far has posted the compulsory for the public congratulations video. Jinger and Jeremy posted theirs, but silence from the queen of social media Jessa blessa. Do you think the Vuolos got theirs out so quickly because of the dig at the Dillards Jeremy made from the pulpit, damage limitation? Also still no word or pictures of Jill, when does People magazine come out, I'm sure all this social media speculation will increase their sales this week?

Paula Reed said...

Re: Used Car Salesman:
So, Josh thinks he's due money because of the traumatic experience he had as a teenager. What about his sisters? Shouldn't they get money FROM JOSH for their traumatic experiences they suffered as children?

everythingieverwanted said...

Stupidsidehugs - I love your comment.......I remember when I was in high school we had a foster girl living with us and when we went to the fair, my dad told he didn't want her going to the carnival at night by herself. Her response was "I could walk naked through the carnival and God would protect me". My dad's response to her is one I use today "God also gave you a brain.....USE IT". That is how I feel about Jill and Derick in this situation......and the Duggars in general when they continue to put themselves and their children at risk and say "we are leaving it up to God". Hello God gave you a brain........USE IT".

sandi said...

Samuel doesn't appear to have microcephaly,so there would be no reason for him to have a cry associated with it

Gerti said...

Tuesday and still no additional baby reports on how Jill is doing or family pics. This is highly unusual for the Duggar clan.

Heart in Florida said...

I think the silence about Jill and Samuel is because they sold the story. I think they'll both be just fine in a bit. Perhaps those donations were a bit weak recently and they're 'counting on' the People Magazine check about Samuel's birth. I wouldn't put it past them.

Abilene said...

People had a story but not much to it. No pictures.

Sabrina W said...

Not good news that there are no photos and not a big dramatic story in People Magazine. This news adds to the mystery of what's going on with Jill and the baby as silence is out of character for the attention seeking Duggars.

Mary said...

hi


Just wondering if the shoe was on the other foot. Some poor women delivering a baby and Jill being there to deliver the baby. Would she (Jill) advise the woman to go to hospital (like she did) or would she continue to have that woman wait until she deliver.

Mary

everythingieverwanted said...

I thought the same as many this morning when I saw People......I am now worried with the rest of you folks.....

Heart in Florida said...

Mary: Good point about what Jill's midwife advice would be to a laboring mother: keep on pushing until the very last moment of safety or go to the hospital with plenty of time for evaluation by real doctors. Someone should ask her that; perhaps she'll give a hint of a real answer.

Aimee said...

Still nothing from Jill and Derick. No more photos or updates or links to pointless stories on the website. But also nothing on People... Jessa however has posted the Cow Day pictures. Beginning to worry about Jill. I mean when Jessa nearly bled to death they still had the full story in People magazine within days.

LilBit0318 said...

Yup...I'd wondered about People Magazine doing a story about the birth, too. Then I saw them fawning over Julianne Hough's wedding last weekend, and I kept wondering which would be plastered on the cover. My money was still on Jill, but nope...Saw this morning that it'll be Julianne. And she gets more of a cover than usual, too, with a lot less of the little teaser pics from the other stories in the issue. And no Duggars anywhere in sight. Surprising, refreshing, and a little alarming all at once!

imaamy said...

I checked out the print edition and didn't see a story at all.

Bird said...

When Michelle had the forever baby didnt they hold off, not give much info until the 2 hour special aired? And where is Amy? Nothing from her either. If this is all a publicity stunt, she will have some angry followers..

betsy said...

It's like Jill has disappeared. Since when do the Duggars keep anything private about their lives out of the media? Also, no word about the siblings or grandpaents visiting the baby with joyful comments. Is Jill still in the hospital with the baby? Seems like something very bad has happened. By now, there should be photos on their website/facebook etc with Jill and family. So the drama continues yet another day.

zebracrossing said...

I know it is rare...but could doctors have done a hysterectomy on Jill?

Emma said...

Anyone else noticed that there are very few comments in response to congratulatory videos on Duggars own facebook? I think they must even be blocking huggars asking questions/showing concern about Jill and the baby, that is really suspicious behaviour for them. Normally the sweet and precious crew would be posting in their hundreds, hardly gets into double figures, either something is very wrong or they are dragging it out to increase interest, horrible of them not to issue a brief statement and then ask for privacy, would have some respect if they did that.

Aunt Bea said...

This radio silence is being done for publicity and their agreement with magazines, no doubt in my mind. I'm sure Jill and the baby will be or are just fine. It's manipulating publicity. That's their MO. None of them really cares anything about their 'fans and followers'; as they don't know any of them or anything about their adoring fans and they want to keep it that way. Unless you are part of their circle, they don't want to know you. When someone sees them in the store and says hello, you're great, etc, that 'sweet, oh thank you' is just the Duggars being at work. It's not who they really are. Those people are not given a second thought by them after they walk away.

Just saying said...

Anyone see Jim Bob & Michelle congratulating Jill & Derick? They then say;"grandbaby # 8 going on 200." Wouldn't want to be a member of that family for anything.

Why Not said...

Looks like the Duggars are now coming out of the woodwork to congratulate the Dillards. So far Joydyn & Josie are on social media, as well as Josh & Anna & their family, & of course the grandparents that are the most important: The Duggars! Love their comment about grandbaby #8 going on 200!

Happy Grandma said...

I am a grandma who is over the moon thrilled with my yr. old granddaughter. If they have more great but it's the baby I love, & not what number she is. I've always said the Duggars couldn't care less about their babies, they were in it for the number of children, not how much they knew & loved about each individual child. Now it's going to be more of the same with the grandchildren. Comment by JB & Michelle; #8 going on 200!

everythingieverwanted said...

One thing really bugs me. These Duggar congratulatory videos. They all live (well except Jinger now) almost within walking distance of each other. Instead of making and posting videos, TALK to each other. You do not have to post a video to congratulate your daughter on the birth of her second child. You go to the hospital and give her a hug and tell her face to face. The world does not need to see it. And the "little girls" doing videos.......not sure what is up with that but it's just strange.

bitsy said...

I don't agree with the speculation that information is being held back for a magazine article. I feel something went wrong with the birth, the baby has a problem or Jill had problem, perhaps serious birthing damage and the Duggars are trying to construct a story for the media that all this is "God's will". Jill could also being having a mental breakdown considering her inability to do a natural birth again, the thought of being taken to dangerous CA with 2 babies or she finally took a good look at her husband.

Patty said...

I agree with others that this is all for publicity. The Duggars truly are all about fame and money. Even their own websites appear to be generated by publicity agents. They never respond the way most people do in commenting on facebook, even from people who are being supportive. Their u-tube postings are a joke. Normal people send texts to family members. I suppose they do that also, but the u-tube and facebook postings are for publicity and to generate interest in their show, that is so incredibly boring and repetitive that I will never understand why people still watch it. I lost interest in it when the children started becoming young adults and were still acting and treated like children.

sandi said...

If Jill had a uterine rupture,yes,they could have done a hysterectomy.But at her age,they would likely try to repair it.
I suspect 'silence is golden' for them,in this case.I noticed Derick released a teaser pic,with only their own watermark on it.So they did not have a contract with People or anyone else,pre birth.Perhaps they are shopping around for the highest bidder for the story,and maybe not getting as much as they had hoped for,and so are holding off.Of course this is all speculation.Jmo

Aunt Bea said...

So, Grandma Cathy doesn't make videos, does she? She's too busy BEING A GRANDMA and enjoying Israel one on one. I'm sure she will shower Samuel with love and affection just the same. When those kids are at Grandma Michelle's house, they're just one of the herd and I'm sure Michelle doesn't give any of her grandchildren much attention other than her fake wide-eyed hello! She doesn't have a heart for children, remember?

Cari said...

PICTURES!!!

http://www.tlc.com/tv-shows/counting-on/photos/introducing-samuel-scott-dillard

Cari said...

Derick has on two different shirts in the new pictures so she was in more than just a short time if he went home and changed. There is only the one picture of her and she has on the arm band. Her hair looks clean, she is sitting up, has on makeup and earrings and the room looks like at the hospital. If she was in bed all the time she might not have on those dangly earrings, with having long hair to get tangled. She seems to have on a sweater over her gown.

The curtain behind her looks the same as when Sammy is there wearing the little brother shirt and it is in all the pictures. Precious little Sam is in at least 3 different outfits. I know nothing about what they do about babies in the hospital as I had only seen them wearing a diaper in the nursery....So do the nurses take time to dress and redress them in diff outfits several times a day (a whole lot of work to take off a pooped on outfit) or were these taken on different days....(Trying to figure out if little Sam has been in the hospital all this time. It is Thursday and he was born on Saturday, right?)

The little guy is precious. He has a nose like his big brother.

Emma said...

The Dillards have released some more photographs of baby Sam and one of Jill holding him. She does look very frail to me, she has been through a rough time evidently. Looks like they are still in hospital, with the way the Duggars operate we might never know what really happened. If it is illegal for a midwife to attend a VBAC birth at home in Arkansas, does the doctor who performed the c section have a duty to report it to the authorities for investigation, not being in the US I am not familiar with your laws? The lay midwives who put these womens lives at risk need to be stoped, I just know here in the UK it would be investigated, and am curious.

Lizzyb said...

Sam is adorable and appears healthy. Jill does not look well at all. Of course, we do not know when this photo was taken but she even with a c-section, she does not appear to be bouncing back like she did the first time. I don't really like Jill but I do hope she's ok.

Elspeth said...

If Jill was asked and if she had a midwife there, the normal way these things go is the laboring woman lies and says she was unattended.

Mickey2942 said...

Could it be, media fatigue? And that the Duggars popularity is waning, quicker than JimBob would pick up a dollar Bill? Holding out for more cash, when no one wants to pay?!

The only Duggar article I would read is one with Anna, packing a U-Haul, leaving Josh, and planning to go to college. That will never happen.

Emma said...

Elspeth: So their good upstanding christian morals would be thrown out of the window in order to protect some unqualified 'midwife' (hate using that word for these fakes) who could have killed them and their baby, I just can't take that in. The Duggars can afford to have their babies in the hospital, or use qualified midwives at home or at a birthing centre, why put themselves at risk? Perhaps if the mothers were told they would be sued for endangering their babies life for not getting help more quickly they might be more fourthcoming with a name?

Elspeth said...

Yes, those dear fundie women apparently don't think it's a sin to lie to protect one of their own.

DuggarDish said...

Jill looked so weak in that pic. She definitely doesn't look like herself. Now, Derrick OTH, looks like one happy dad! That baby looks so content with him. They are sweet pictures, but Jill does not seem right. Could be two c sections in 2 yrs, I guess. If they are not allowed any more children, or children for a long time, does that mean no more physical contact? They will not use birth control. So their only way to make sure that doesn't happen, is to sleep in separate beds, in seperate rooms. Remember when Jill mentioned Derricks bedroom when they were in CA,(not their bedroom!)? This is probably their birth control, abstinence. The poor girl is probably so sad, she can't sleep beside her husband for a long time!

Heart in Florida said...

Elspeth: I don't see the advantage of these fundie expectant women using unqualified midwives in the first place. Why do they choose shotty prenatal care in the first place? Why not choose a properly licensed professional midwife to care for them? Doesn't add up to me...then when things go south, they purposely lie about their situation?

Heart in Florida said...

I saw the photos, don't know when they were taken but they're all taken in the hospital. Hope everyone turns out ok.

Elspeth said...

I can't explain why some of the current batch of fundies are all for basically unsassisted home births. It's more prevalent in certain groups. The Bates family, for instance, uses licensed birthing centers or a regular OB and the hospital. The Duggars seem to have gotten caught up in the hospitals are bad philosophy of that dreadful woman Jill was training under. Theresa Fedosky also seems to push home births currently.

Frannie D. said...

Just saw the pics of Jill & Samuel. The baby looks enormous in her arms !! Jill looks exhausted. Hope Derick has mercy and gives Jill time to recover from the trauma of the birth and not be dragged off to CA with 2 babies.

Linda said...

You might be surprised how many of these quiverfull types use birth control when push comes to shove.

Auggie said...

I think the one baby photo with Jill was staged. My guess is that, after hearing all the comments about being concerned for Jill, & wondering where the photos are, the Dugger head insisted that Jill get 'dressed' for a photo with the baby. Jana probably put on Jill's make up and jewellry & she was propped up for one photo. She probably collapsed back into bed afterwards.

Aimee said...

Is it possible that no media source bought the photos OR story this time? Someone above said they looked through People magazine and there wasn't even a mention!! Now, finally, they have thrown some pictures on the website themselves!! Is interest dying down finally?! -- And yes, Jill looks horribly frail and tired in the photos.

franny said...

Jill sure looks like she's been through an ordeal. The baby does not look like a newborn, more like a 2 month old, so big for her to deliver. Maybe now she will consider birth control to give herself a chance to recover fully from the c-secton. Hope Derick is thinking about how he can stay in Arkansas and not subject his family to the dangers of Central America. Maybe he should go down there himself if he is so drawn to live in the jungle village.

Mickey2942 said...

Well, it is so much cheaper to have babies at home. JB wants to save money, and it appeals to people who have a pregnancy fetish.

imaamy said...

She didn't look bad to me, just didn't have her hair and makeup the way she usually does.

Places said...

I saw the photo of Jill, she does look tired but the more alarming thing in photo was Derrick's arm. Is it just turned weird or it looks almost photoshopped?

Penny said...

Jill does not look that bad to me...considering what she went thru..perhaps this is the first time she got to hold her baby..hope she is able to recover properly...to me Derick does not to be in tune with his wifes physical and emotional health,and does not appear to be a strong advocate for her.hopefully I am wrong and any plans for ca are put on back burner...I had higher hopes about him.

Heart in Florida said...

In some of those photos of Samuel, you can see that he was still hooked up to monitors. The line is visible in the photo with Derick's back to the camera. Also, Jill was wearing the hospital gown with a blue sweater over it and she had a hospital wrist band on.
Hopefully, they'll say what went down plainly, simply and TRUTHFULLY. I think Sam is a cute baby. I also think that Jill would be quite happy if Derick took off himself and went down to CA and she stayed in AR with her family. Don't think she'd care much if he left for months at a time. I believe she's disappointed in many aspects of her marriage. Hopefully, she WILL bond with both of her sons.
I hope she will literally take her doctor's advice to wait a FULL TWO YEARS before conceiving again, if she can. She did not listen to the attending physician in Izzy's deliver who told her to wait at least 2 years. She conceived short of two years, obviously. She should also remember the sizes of the children she delivers and that she is NOT built to deliver them vaginally. What is the advantage of these women using UNLICENSED lay, home 'midwives' as compared to a properly educated, trained and legal one? I'll never know. If anyone out there knows why they PREFER unskilled prenatal care, do tell.

LilBit0318 said...

Aimee...That was exactly my thought, especially once they put those pictures up themselves. They might not have gotten anyone to take the bait...Or at least not for the price they want. Could even People Magazine finally getting the message that we don't want these people rammed down our throats at every turn? One can only hope!

Emma said...

Derick going to another country on his own would be a very effective form of natural contraception!

dinda said...

Jill belongs near her family. She led a sheltered live and for her to be stuck in a far off primitive sort of country for no good reason (what have they ever done of value in CA??) must bring her stress and now fear after the murders.

Mary said...

Hi

Still not a word on Jill and baby. Jimboob must be up set if he has to open his wallet to pay

Mary

Dusty said...

Wouldn't this huge hospital bill be Derick's responsibility? Soon there might be begging for more donations. If the guy had a job, he'd be able to get medical insurance for his growing family. Don't doctors measure the size of the baby's head to see if it is even possible for the big babies to be born naturally? Poor Jill looked like she's been through an ordeal.

Bird said...

Funny, the daughters and daughter in laws all have or want to deliver at home, have we ever witnessed queen Michelle give birth at home? No, she gets to labor a bit at home and then go to the hospital. Why cant the girls have the same luxery and be in a safe place to give birth in case of problems or get some relief if needed?

Caliber said...

It could be Jill's emotional state such as postpartem/baby blues that is affecting her too. Especially after all the trauma she put her body through. Remember when Brooke Shields went through that? She said she wanted nothing to do with the baby. And some religious groups don't believe in medications for such a thing.

Aunt Bea said...

Someone who claims that their second cousin works at the hospital that Jill delivered in said that both Jill and the baby have the Zika virus. Wonder how credible that post is...anyone know?

Linda said...

One of the things the Dillards said they needed the donations for was insurance. Jim Bob has said multiple times that the family has medical insurance. I'm not sure why people keep claiming that they don't have insurance.

wondering woman said...

The baby did not look like it had Zika but who knows the severity if it is true?. How stupid for Jill not to get tested for the virus before she allowed herself to get pregnant and then stay in the USA until the baby was born. Why would Derick have such a beaming smile if his child had Zika? I'd say yes because he appears insane lately. Is it usual for a baby to remain in the hospital for an extended period of time if the mother must be there? How long do women remain in the hospital after a hysterectomy? Just wondering about all these details.

Vilente said...

Jimbob's medical insurance would not cover Derick's family. Derick needs to get a real job in the USA where he can get benefits and keep his family out of dangerous CA. A woman of child bearing years is ignorant to live in a Zika infested country and not take birth control. She'd better be sneaking those birth control pills from now on since daddy & dopey Derick keep wanting her to risk her life, without pain killer, pushing out babies or having painful c-sections to produce yet another Dugger clone. What's wrong with raising 2 children with lots of love and attention, rather then producing a bunch of neglected children, like Michelle has done..

Who Knows? said...

Re:Dusty's comment about a Dr. measuring the size of the baby's head. You would be assuming that she was receiving prenatal care from a Dr. from that comment. One of the things everyone has commented on, is how they don't receive prenatal care. The last time Jill just arrived the hospital, in the middle of labor. I think that's exactly what has happened this time. It's way too late to even think abut the size of the baby's head when the mother & baby have been in distress for so many hours.

Ruby said...

Aunt Bea, no one knows if its true but I saw that post also. Very irresponsible or cowardly of that fan blog to pass on that info in such a manner. They probably know what is going on since they are acquainted with the Duggars but choose to sew rumors or present the facts by quietly dropping the news in a random post. Weird.

Boo's Mom said...

40 hrs before she had another c-section? I wonder if she lied about time in labor to buy time in the hospital? With izzy she had meconium staining at 36 hrs in labor and went another 34 hrs? BS. What competent dr lets someone go THAT long after the water breaks? I bet this delivery went bad, fast, like "decision to incision in 4 mins" With her history, Jill played a very stupid game of risk and next time she or the baby will not be so lucky, if there is a next time.

Elspeth said...

The baby did not look like it had Zika
You can't tell by looking except for the very few who have microcephaly. Most of the effects of Zika during pregnancy are not visible.

Penny said...

I would think that Jill,Derrick and the kids are not attached to Jimbobs insurance...as they are not duggars,they are Grown adults,the Dillard family...Derrick should have a real job with benefits...but I do question why he would be asking for donations for insurance do they not get paid for the show???and they live in one of jim bobs homes,do they pay rent??

Aunt Bea said...

If Jill is still 26 years old or younger, SHE can still be on her father's family plan. Derick, no can't be. So, we really don't know what their insurance situation is.
Also, from that vague post about Zika, I believe it could be mildly present. I would not they are both fine, but who knows.

Linda said...

Isn't 26 the cut off? So on the 26th birthday the parental coverage ended?

Heather said...

A girl who is married can still stay on her parent's health insurance until her 26th birthday. BUT a baby born to her is not covered on parent's insurance. So.....if Sam has a medical problem, he would not be covered. Also, what's up with a college educated man asking for donations for his own living expenses. Has Derick no shame?? What does he do all day but hang around? There are any number of jobs he could do. Look at Jimbob who worked stocking shelves in a grocery store when he was Dericks age, not that Jimbob is any example but the guy did go to work.

Alexia said...

"Some babies infected with Zika before birth have been found to have other birth defects such as missing brain structures, vision and hearing defects, or poor growth."

I have just copied the above from a medical site. This might clear up some questions about Zika in babies.

Dusty said...

Wouldn't it be refreshing to hear that after the c-section, Jill had a tubal ligation, a mommy tummy tuck and told Derick she was done producing the clones and planned to stay in the USA to get a nursing degree? There really is enough money considering the magazine covers and TLC plus they have been living free of charge for years now. Okay, how's that for today's fairy tale?

Bubbles said...

I remember at one point JimBob said something about having a group health insurance plan. He probably has it set up so the grown children can purchase premiums under his plan as part of his "group".

I also recall Jim Bob saying it's best for the men to be self employed or in a family business, because if they work for someone else they could end up working for someone who has different beliefs. My guess is that this is why they do this "midwife/doula/home birth" thing as well - medical professionals are going to give them advice that goes against their beliefs.

Bubbles said...

I looked at the pics. The one with the baby in the outfit that says "little brother" - he has things around his wrists, what are they?

That first pic shows the birth definitely was NOT easy. It's not normal for a c-section baby to have to have supplemental oxygen, an IV, and a cardiac monitor.

Beyond Belief said...

I believe that Jill lied about the length of time she was in labor both times.

julie said...

I truly don't believe there is anything seriously wrong with Jill or baby. The family would be at the hospital by her side. Three days after Samuel's birth, a pic was shown with Jana and all the littles dressing up for chick fil a appreciation day. Seriously doubt, her best friend/buddy/sister would just go about her day as normal and bask in the freebie day at a local restaurant if Jill was that bad off! And the others are smiling and happy as well. Michelle/Jim Bob posted a pic of them shopping with Josie and Johannah. Again, they all look really happy. If your daughter or grandbaby had a terrible condition, would you post a pic of the rest of your family thoroughly enjoying yourselves? I would be at her bedside all day! And lastly, wouldn't they be requesting prayers for them?? The very most important thing.

nan miller said...

Julia.....Acknowledging that there was a problem with Jill or Sam would be saying God did not watch over them...or some such thing so they could be carrying on in an ignoring state of mind. After all, aren't they always smiling and when did Michelle ever give of herself to her children, except for Josie but she had not choice there. Even then, she left the little child alone with siblings when Josie had a seizure, in order to take a selfish trip with Jimbob. Michelle also filmed her son falling off the stage and hurting his arm instead of rushing to his side. Her mothering instincts are flawed. Jimbob is worried about keeping up their image and the chldren follow the parent's lead because they are brainwashed robots. Their behavior cannot tell you what is going on.

Aunt Bea said...

Jim Bob could very well have 'group' health insurance under his many Duggar companies and 'employ' his working children and sons-in-law. He then WOULD be able to offer health insurance to them and include their spouses and dependent children when applicable. This, however, doesn't apply to Derick, Israel and Samuel. If Jill's 26 or younger, SHE could still be on daddy's health plan as HIS dependent. We'll never know.

Gerti said...

He probably could employ Derick and Jill under "consultant" positions so they and the baby could be covered under the insurance. Jimbob knows how to do these things to benefit his family and ultimately not have to pay huge hospital bills for family since he's hold the purse strings on them all.

Cari said...

Jilly Muffin is 26 years old. She was born May 17, 1991

imaamy said...

Nothing in today's People either. Very very strange!

Willow said...

This is all very strange for sure. This is a lot longer than when Jessa and Ben kept everyone waiting to hear the names of their children. I'm very worried. If Jill had a hysterectomy, there is nothing to be ashamed of. The baby looks fine to me in the pictures. I wonder if Jill had a problem with the bruit in her neck? It is just so strange. I am praying for them in any case. None of us want something bad to happen.

Kristine said...

It's been over 2 weeks since Sam's birth and no pics of him and Israel, Jill smiling happy with her usual selfie big surprised eyes holding her 2 sons. Now pic of Jessa's boys meeting their new cousin. Not many postings from siblings regarding the baby. They post every detail of their lives so there's got to be something amiss, something they do not want to admit to. Is it that Jill's decision to endure a long labor with an already weak uterus causing a serious operation aside from the c-section suggesting she did not make a good midwife decision. Hope it is not Zika in the baby which would prove they were so stupid to go to CA during before and during her pregnancy, allowing themselves to become infected and pass it to the baby. That situation would say God was not protecting them and how would they state that? God has chosen them for a challenge?

coleen said...

is jill at home?

Dana Altondddddd said...

What's with the news blackout from the Dillard family? Over 2 weeks now, no magazine article and now pics of the family interacting with the new baby. Where is Jill? Seems like there is something wrong even if selfish Jimbob & Michelle are off having a great time, flying around in the helicopter in Hawaii, squealing with delight. The only care about themselves.

Margie said...

From Jill's instagram, she is personally suffering. I don't think there is a problem with the baby but a serious on with her, perhaps emotional due to whatever happened in the operating room. She is such a woman/child. I do feel sorry for her.

everythingieverwanted said...

They just posted a new picture of the baby, but not of Jill.......and said that no updates are available yet (this is on the Duggar fan page). He really is a cute baby and I definitely see the resemblance between him and Israel.

ky said...

Feel so very sorry for these girls! Their mom & Dad should be charged with abuse, these poor girls have no clue, it is okay to wear pants, shorts swimming suits!!!! Their parents are so sex oriented!!!!! it is not about the sex, it is about loving someone, knowing someone, there is no way they are knowing who they are marrying ! It is not about Tv, money ¡¡¡¡¡

Heart in Florida said...

The Duggar children were not brought up to handle disappointment in life. It was drilled in their heads that if they listen to daddy, live the lifestyle they lived, Jesus would take good care of them and send them the PERFECT ONE for them. Life will be 'ok' and happy because daddy heard Jesus speaking to him. Well, what happened when life DOES disappoint? The PERFECT ONE for these girls will be a HUMAN guy, and humand are not perfect and humans disappoint. How will they cope to handle that? Jim Bob and Michelle's fault that their children expect a pretty near perfect life and don't have the skills to handle changes in 'the plan'.

Just Me said...

Re:Margie's comment. Jill is a grown woman & as such, she is responsible for planning for the safest delivery & best outcome for her baby, as well as for herself. In her case, this meant, since she has already had one experience of an emergency C-section, the odds were great that it could happen again. Knowing this, it's very unwise to put yourself in a position where you again show up at the hospital, having been in labor for many, many hours, now needing another emergency C-section. She had an obligation to her baby, as well as herself as a mom to another child who needs her, to be under the care of a good OB/GYN who could prepare her for the delivery. It's obvious that again, she was unaware of the size of her child & the possibility that she would need another C-section. Every woman is different. You cannot just assume that because your mom or sister or other relatives or friends had V-back deliveries without any problems you could also go that route. I believe that even an experienced midwife would have told her, yes you can plan for one thing, but be realistic & prepare for another.

Heart in Florida said...

I doubt highly that Jill had much prenatal care herself. Who tended to her when she went back to CA while pregnant with Sam? I think no one. She went those months without care...or more likely, SAMUEL went months without prenatal care. Jill and Derick are reckless idiots. I feel for Izzy and Sam.

Just Me said...

I agree with Heart in Florida that Jill had little or no prenatal care with either baby. I don't know how many people remember Jill saying when she was in labor with Izzy, she decided on her own to take, "Castor Oil." Now I'm not sure how many young women are familiar with Castor Oil, but it was used for constipation back in the forties & probably the early fifties. I don't know how she even came up with that. All I can think of is that it was something her mom might have suggested, or something she heard about in the midwife circles. All I know is that it' not something a skilled professional would ever suggest in this day & age. You have an obligation to your baby to follow a good diet, exercise, etc., in order for the best possible outcome for your baby & yourself. Jill knew she was at high risk for a repeat C-section. In that situation she should have been under the care of a professional. Apparently the Duggars feel their special relationship with God will allow them to plan the pregnancy, as well as the delivery themselves. It's another example of how they throw caution to the wind. When you have already had a bad experience you don't deliberately repeat it.

helga said...

Still no photos of Israel meeting his little brother and happy family pic with all 4 or them.
Now it is 17 days since the baby's birth and all we have from Jill is a curious note stuck to her mantel. Fans want to know what's going on since the posted every detail of pregnancy & birth previously. If Jill had a hysterectomy, hopefully dizzy Derick is being supportive and caring. His mom Cathy stepped up to care for Israel like a good family does while the two aging lovebirds flew off to Hawaii, selfish without a care in the world.

sandi said...

As far as I know,castor oil 'cocktails' are still used by some midwives to help start labor.They do what some call a 'bomb' of it and herbal ingredients in a drink and it is said to trigger labor.Whether they really work or have been studied,idk.
I do think there is some truth to getting the bowels moving quickly and triggering labor.I've read blogs where that work sometimes

Kate said...

Using out dated things like castor oil when it's inappropriate in labor like it was with Jill is one of the things that scares me about the freakish midwives like the one Jill trained with. She seemed to think she knew better than medical doctors and real nurse midwives. That's why she lost her Arkansas license.

dana Alton said...

If Jill got prenatal examination with both pregnancies, she might not be in the trouble she seems to be in now. It could be the babies are soooooooo big that they cannot pass through her pelvis. She could have had 2 scheduled c sections without all those hours of labor that stresses not only Jill but the baby. There is nothing wrong with getting decent prenatal examinations to help no only her but the baby. Hope the entire clan has learned a lesson.

Just Guessing said...

If the Dillards said they would have as many children as God blessed them with, suppose he is only going to bless them with two. Are they not going to accept that it may be God's will that they only have the 2 beautiful children they now have? If not, then they were in it for the count & PR, just like the Sr. Duggars.

Can't understand said...

Jill said she was already in labor with Izzy when she decided to take the castor oil. It wasn't something she was using to start labor because she was overdue by a couple of weeks. Just wanted to move things along quickly.

Kate said...

Jill's labor stalled which in a reasonably trained and semi-thinking person would tell them something was wrong or going wrong. It happens with malpositioned fetuses and cases where mama just can't fully dilate among other things. In either case, you can't handle it at home and castor oil is just going to add to the problems not help.

Just saying said...

I hope the Duggar/Dillards are not just holding out news for publicity sake as it appears that it may be backfiring. People are losing interest & saying, well when they decided to say something, we'll know then.

Jennie said...

Would the castor oil be transferred to the baby too through the umbilical cord? Sounds like a really stupid thing to do. How do these home birthers know when the baby is in distress without medical equipment to moniter the baby? How stupid to punish herself and the baby through 40 useless hours of labor, if that is even true. Why didn't her husband say, "this is enough...we are going to the hospital now so you and our blesing is safe" after about 8 hours of labor considering her previous C=section. What sort of man allows this insanity?

sandi said...

I think only the nutrients from the castor oil are transferred to the baby.The main thing is does is act like a laxative,and irritating the bowel has been known to trigger labor,or perhaps make contractions stronger or faster.
I agree that in Jill's case,it probably only made things worse

It's about time said...

Come on Jill. If everything is okay, can we please have some pics of you and Sam? HAPPY pics, not like the ONLY one we saw so far. And of Izzy and Sam?
It is beyond strange for this girl not to be sharing photos of her family. She keeps sharing quotes and even ONE new pic of the baby by himself. But no others. What is going on????

Aunt Bea said...

I would think in Izzy's case, Jill was just too small to deliver him vaginally. Having said that, castor oil to promote labor was the worst thing she could have done. This would have created more downward pressure in her lower body. Since Izzy couldn't 'fit', it put him under more stress to be delivered and he was stuck in place. She really needed an ob/gyn for Iz. Jill likes to take chances with her children....remember Israel gnawing on an electric fan post that was plugged in? What did she do? She took a photo of him gnawing. I hope Samuel has an extra-effective guardian angel watching him.

Jan Lincoln said...

As the days pass with no adorable photos of big & little brother together, one has to wonder what is going on. Even if Jill had a hysterectomy, by now she should be taking pleasure in being with her baby & Israel, documenting these precious moments. Jill posted so many pics of her "expecting tummy" you'd think she would want to share pics of the family with new baby. There is nothing wrong with raising just 2 children. Quality, not quantity is always best.

Another Nurse said...

I agree that with Izzy's delivery, he was either transverse of just too large to fit through the birth canal. Jill arrived at the hospital following at least 40 hrs. of labor, if not more, according to her. I have my doubts about the timeline there. Of her own accord, she had taken castor oil after she was already in labor not to start labor because she was overdue. She arrives at the hospital, needing an emergency C-section & following the delivery said she now realized that even with the best plans, you must have a Plan B. What happened to the Plan B this time, or is she waiting for her next delivery to put that in place? Not only was it irresponsible & dangerous, if any real problems developed you can be sure that some poor Dr. or nurses that were trying to assist her at that stage of her labor would now be in deep trouble. No question in my mind that they would be looking to sue the Dr, nurses or hospital, because that's what they do when things don't go as they planned. They don't take responsibility for these poor decisions themselves.

Sunday said...

Another nurse, by Jill's own statement, izzy was transverse. And she claims to have labored a total of 70 hours. She wasn't educated enough to even know that a large transverse baby is not in the right position for a vaginal delivery if labor has started. She probably tried to pray the baby into the proper position. So foolish and very ignorant. We can only imagine what happened this time. Methinks she learned nothing from her mistakes.

My Opinion said...

I just saw the most recent picture of Jill's baby Samuel,in the blue outfit. I know it's just my opinion but that baby looks like a 3 month old baby.

Just saying said...

What midwife who knows their baby is in the transverse position, would continue to labor all those hours? Also, this was not her first pregnancy & delivery couldn't she tell that her baby was going to be large & she knew a transverse positioned, large baby, resulted in a C-section the last time. What did she expect the outcome of her labor & delivery to be this time? Even comments made by viewers were stating that Jill was very big.

Aunt Bea said...

Would anyone out there in the real world want Jill to deliver our child?

Asking? said...

I've always though that Anna's Michael, was in the transverse position. He must have turned sometime after all those hours of agony that she suffered through. It could have just been the size of his head but I think he was in transverse for quite sometime. Fortunately, she had Josh to take her face in his hands & tell her "you can do this," before he went for a nap.

Marla Ann said...

The news blackout continues in Dillard land. We can only surmise from the lack of happy news about the new blessing that there is a very serious situation they cannot discuss on the media as it would make them seem stupid.

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Margie said...

I cannot understand going through serious pain for hours and hours, even days.......for what? Gothard? Jimbob? Her insane, delusional husband? These girls gotta stand up for themselves, stop risking their lives and stressing out babies during long labors and get to a hospital. I'm also thinking of poor Anna, how, after hours of pain and even begging to go to the hospital, they just tell her she's doing great!!! then she delivers and thanks Josh for the baby. He never thanked her for carrying and birthing the child. This is the twisted way the girls think. I fear Jill's stubborn refusal to go to a hospital to have the baby or to schedule c-section has caused her to loose the ability to have more children. You just can't push out a transverse, huge, big headed baby that looks like it's 2 months old without trauma to the baby & also perhaps damage so herself, a torn her uterus or other parts as it was only a 2 years ago since her first c-section. I can't imagine the pain she has endured. I say Jill had a hysterectomy and is suffering severe depression.

Frannie D. said...

Date night...what a joke. They say that because the couldn't have dates before marriage. I personally have never heard of married couples saying they are going on a date.

imaamy said...

Sandi, may I ask where you saw the pizza pic?

Another Nurse said...

Re: Sundays comments. Oh I believe that Jill knew the baby was transvers, also that the baby was very large. Whether she was educated or not, when it came to labor & delivery, she always does what she wants to do. She kept insisting that when Michelle was pregnant with Jubilee she had just listened to the heartbeat & everything was fine. Now I know things can change in an instant but even way back then, I questioned Jill's competency in listening to the heartbeat & telling the family that Michelle & baby were fine. She has done the same thing with Jessa, arriving with her stethoscope & ultrasound machine & pronouncing that everything is fine with the baby. We never heard her tell Jessa that the baby appeared rather large & that she should be prepared for a difficult delivery. I don't know where these particular midwives come from but in my opinion they are not knowledgeable or well trained. Please, if you want to use a midwife, go to a good clinic or hospital. Most hospitals will allow midwives to practice. They then have skilled professionals that are on standby to assist if needed. Someone like Jill would still be able to say she was attended by a midwife at the birth of her child.

sandi said...

Imaamy,it's on Jill's instagram.I changed my mind about posting since Domino's is take out pizza only

What's happening said...

At first I wanted to say that it was all just a publicity stunt, no pictures of Jill with Samuel & Izzy together, or the happy family. But the more I think about it, this is absolutely the time they should be stringing the viewers along until the new season starts. They love to keep the viewers seeing pictures of mom with the new babies & how she is handling this new stage of her life via social media. They always want something that will keep the viewers interest until the new season. This is not happening with this baby. Jill would usually be talking about her birth experience. With Izzy it didn't take long for her to come up with an explanation about the C-section & admit that her plan for a home birth didn't work out, so she had to go to her "plan B." she was pretty insistent that everyone should have a plan B, as not everyone can have a natural birth. If it was a regular C-section, she would again be touting that everyone should be like her & have a plan B. Just what happened this time? Jill, you are the one that wants the publicity when it suits you, why not now?

Gina Marie A. said...

How stupid to take photo of eating a pizza in your car when you have a home and a family...and then to post this stupid photo. No one wants to see them all happy over a pizza. What about the new baby and Izzy?? Why are they holding back on the pics? Is it a publicity stunt thing to garner interest for some magazine or is there something wrong in that house? En

Only Me said...

Well that's some news from the Dillards. They had ribs & pizza, for supper the other evening. Guess Jana is too busy with the care of all the other kids while Jim Bob & Michelle are away to be making dinner for them.

Just Guessing said...

Apparently those are old pictures of the pizza that were taken back in May. They are not post new baby pictures.

Lizzyb said...

There is a new photo with the whole family posted on Jill's Instagram. We may never know what all has transpired but she looks good in this photo.

Just saying said...

I'm beginning t believe that it was a publicity stunt not posting pictures of Jill following the birth of Samuel. If so it's a really terrible thing to do to the viewers who care about Jill. I have never liked Jill & feel she didn't think she was getting enough PR for herself, so this blackout of news about how she is recovering from the C-section & how the baby is doing. Although she has shown pictures of the baby. It's always about Jill. So now it's all about Jill & her pizza.

laura said...

Another nurse, the thought that only other fundy fools would employ people like Jill Who ignorantly and dangerously believe they are qualified to bring life into this world helps me feel better.
No sensible person would go anywhere near jill duggar for ANY kind of advice or assistance in life.. Her parents have fashioned her into a laughingstock.
Pray for the safety of her future children. They need it.

Heart in Florida said...

People will still speculate and wonder why Sam was hooked up to those leads and monitors. The Dillards should give a reason and some information as to what affects, if any Jill endured with Sam's labor and delivery. She knows very well that she has numerous followers whether they be fans or not. She should also know that we are not bad people wishing ill on anyone and should let the facts be known.

roddma said...

Of course the pizza was free. The caption said thanks for the gift card.Really?

Marites H. said...

Jill is probably from the school of thought that a C-section isn't a real birth experience. She wants to do the all-natural pushing the baby out but so far her 2 boys have been too big for a regular delivery. If she were under the care of a trained professional, they would be able to see from the ultrasounds that it's a big baby and that "the old-fashioned way" is not safe for mother & child. The doc also would have been able to warn her about gestational diabetes earlier in the pregnancy when it was clear the baby would be approaching 9 lbs. Even though Michelle had a few C-sections, most of hers were natural deliveries so that is what her daughters expect for themselves. These girls have no common sense that the "bad things" that happen to "other people" could happen to them. Contrary to popular opinion in Duggarville, they are not immune from tragedy.

I'm glad to see Jinger seems to be holding off a bit on turning into an annual baby-making factory, but think that Joy & then the eager bride-to-be Kendra will each be popping out babies before celebrating their 1st anniversaries.

sandi said...

If Jill were under the care of an ob/gyn,it's possible they could have monitored the baby's weight and induced her a bit early,like at 38 weeks.That is still considered full term,and he would have weighed a bit less.
Of course,she will never know now

Dusty said...

Jill's silence and few photos after the birth of Sam must have been a cruel publicity stunt to keep those fans who care about her worried.

I'm betting said...

I think it's a safe bet that both Joy & Kendra will have home births, with no skilled medical assistance. Of course, they do consider the woman who is their family friend & neighbor (I forget her name)skilled in delivering babies. Why I don't know. I can't imagine after all the other women have had home births, except for Jill's emergency C-section, that any of the others would be under the care of a Dr. or midwife & have a plan to go to the hospital. It's just not done that way in Duggarland. I'm also sure that Michelle will again be front & center at the births, as she loves saying she has been present at the births of all her grandchildren. I wonder if Kendra's mom had home births & what she thinks about the possibility of her daughter going through the same labor & deliveries as Anna, Jill & Jessa have been through?

Elsa said...

I'm wondering why the in-law families stay silent? People magazine should approach the Caldwell Family for an exclusive interview. Bet that would sell a bunch of magazines. Can you imagine an exclusive interview with Jeremy's parents? And Jimboob and Moochelle would have any dibs on the paycheck. You'd think there'd be some neighbors or people at their church or distant cousins that would talk to a reporter.

Hannah said...

I cannot imagine Joy or Kendra going through a painful home birth with all the girls watching. What a nightmare. Just go to the hospital, get an epidural and give birth like most everyone else. It doesn't have to be a scary, painful and risky experience and it does not make you a "woman". It makes you stupid to take risks.

Willow said...

The women in the Bates family use hospitals and birthing centers. Erin Bates Paine said she had to have an epidural for her second delivery. There is no reason the Duggar women have to have home births. Michelle had many hospital births. I think the Duggar daughters are just stubborn and think they will get more attention with home births and I think TLC likes the home births as well. They have no sense and are afraid they won't please "daddy". I think the home birthing madness started with the Duggar females when Josh thought it was more savy for TV and did not put Anna as his first priority. Somewhere along the line, TLC probably thought home birthing would show off Jill's midwifery skills, but, alas, that did not work out so well either.

sandi said...

I've always suspected tlc pays more for a home birth.Josh may have had extra incentive to keep Anna at home.Jmo

Elsa said...

I wonder when Jeremy dropped the news that there would be no Duggar Family visitors for 6 or 9 months? ( can't remember 6 or 9) I'm pretty sure he didn't drop the bomb until after the marriage certificate was signed.

Heart in Florida said...

Yes, Jeremy announced the Duggar visit ban after they were married...smart guy.

Nadia said...

Didn't Jeremy announce no visitors after the Duggar kids showed up with loads of thrift store junk to rudely redecorate his apartment? That was so invasive. No wonder he doesn't want them invading his private space again. I love the way Jinger is becoming more normal. There is lovely photo of her wearing tight pants, sexy high heeled shoes, her mass of hair pulled back and a pretty blouse. She's dumped the dark make up look and is so naturally pretty and very happy looking. It looks like Jinger has been finally freed.

Don't get me started said...

I have a sad feeling for Jill, this is as good as it gets. With every new Duggar bride comes the excitement of a parties, wedding, fancy honeymoons abroad, new house, then the couples first baby and all the hoopla that goes along with that. Jill and Derek are old news. Yesterday's socks. And it doesn't help with the secrecy/scandal around Samuel and Derek's rants about things he should just leave well enough alone. Not even 30, and the fun and excitement has moved on from Dillardville.



Aunt Bea said...

I'm surprised at these two for being so quiet about Sam's birth situation. Did Jill have a hysterectomy, can she have more children or not? Why was Sam hooked up to those leads right after he was born? Their silence is curious, but I guess that's the way they want it to instigate interest in them.

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