Monday, February 27, 2017, 9:00 PM, A Honeymoon and a Courtship (Episode 1?)

Jeremy and Jinger have said "I do," and now the newlyweds finally get to enjoy some alone time.  Mr. and Mrs. Vuolo head down under for their honeymoon in Australia.  Meanwhile, back in Arkansas, another Duggar enters a courtship.

60 minutes

Ratings:  1.229 M viewers and a .36 rating.

64 comments:

Willow said...

Well, Jessa seemed to manage dominating the JINGER wedding episode. I had to turn off her smug self. Now, though, I wonder HOW is she going to manage being the main speaker of J&J's honeymoon? How will TLC work that out? maybe: "Jessa gives critiques of how she and Ben did it different when they were in Paris. She will not allow Jinger to be the center of attention, even on her own honeymoon. My fabulous prediction, LOL. :)

Kliff Klavin said...

For being a brood of frugal people, they sure travel well.

Duggarsbegone said...

Jessa is extremely annoying. I am so sick of her whining about how Jeremy "stole" Jinger away from the family to live in Laredo. Geezer, let the newlyweds alone. People marry and move away every day. Jessa needs to pay more attention to what is happening under her own roof. There is nothing special about Jessa, or anyone else in the Duggar family. All they live for are weddings and babies. What a boring life.

Enough already said...

Maybe Derek decided he'd had enough of Jessa and decided to get away by leaving the country with Jill & Isreal. Heck, I'm sick of pushy, "it's all about me" Jessa, too.

Virginia said...

I don't think they will be Laredo very long. not sure exactly what they will do. I don't think that Jimbob has any more room on his pay roll with Ben and his own boys he's "paying"

Imagine if your life was this pathetic said...

Weddings and courtships.... Yes, everything they do leads up to that.

Asking Dweeb Bob's permission to court, the engagement, the pathetically childish showers planned by Silly Jo Dominguez who puts smashed up cupcakes into a jar for refreshments then tries to springboard that into a business on etsy.... Which is against the Etsy rules but like Dim Bulb and the rest of his family they think they are above any rules.... But I digress...

rambling on...after the shower we get to see Buying the dress...then the wedding, the latest dumb Sierra Jo Dominguez idea for a gender reveal... And another goofball idea from Sierra for a baby shower, then we get to someone in great pain struggling to give
birth ...and then we see the baby and later the kid is named.

Ok not in that order particularly and maybe that isn't all shown on the show but that is pretty much their life.

PeteysNan1 said...

I think Jessa should spend each day with her kid husband teaching him how to form a sentence like an adult so he can have a real conversation. She makes me want to barf. Did anyone notice in the previews of the honeymoon Jinger had sleeveless dresses on? I cant recall ever seeing any of them in anything showing their full arms. I hope Jeremy takes her out there to experience the world with some normalcy unlike shes ever had. I'm sure Daddy wont like him corrupting his daughter, lol.

Captain Crunch said...

When asked by the the interviewer on last night's thrilling episode of 'Dragging On', who would be the next Duggar married, Jana pointed at Joy and said 'Joy', did ya'll happen to see the look on Joys face? Like she was getting hauled off to the basement. The last thing she looked was excited over getting married.

Sasha said...

The only good thing I can say about Joy's fate is that she is not being forced to marry an older man but some kid her own age.

Heart in Florida said...

Captain Crunch: I also saw the expression on Joy's face when pointed to as the next one to court. This girl just isn't happy to be courting right now. Why can't their idiot parents see that? They live with her. We don't and we can see it. Jana may be the smartest one yet. Perhaps she's waiting for time to pass and she can finally have some peace of her own and answer to no one when her parents have been called from this world. Jim Bob and Michelle are human and have their "time" like the rest of us. Hopefully, the little girls will all be married off by then. I don't think the brothers bother Jana that much as far as chores and care needed.

Ruby said...

Why can't these poor girls date without being on reality tv? J Boob and Michelle are so utterly controlling and intrusive. Poor Joy. She doesn't stand a chance.

Dont get it said...

you are right, Ruby. Austin and Joy are just two young teens who should just be "dating", not commiting to a permanent relationship before they even know what they want in life. Much less be on tv. I used to like this show when the kids were all young and seeing how such a big family functions. But i quit watching when the ridiculous courtship stuff started. Dating and having fun, going to college, or getting a job and getting to know a lot of new people does not mean you have to have sex. This family is sex obsessed and have sold out to fame and fortune. There is nothing that represents christian standards anymore.

Carolee said...

Many young people date without having sex. It's not an automatic response to being alone. People are able to uphold their moral standards. Perhaps this perverted way of thinking is due to what Jimbob & Michelle did when they dated. Anyway, it's none of Jimbob's business what adults do in private, married or not.

Always said...

Re:PeteysNan1's comment. Just how can Jessa teach Ben how to form anything that resembles a correct or proper sentence? She & none of the other Duggars, including Jim Bob & Michelle have any reasonable command of the English Language. You can't teach what you don't know.

PeteysNan1 said...

Well Always...i thought since she talks so much and non stop that she could make better use of all that babbling she does. Anything would be an improvement to what it is now with him. I do notice they have already taught him the word "whenever" that they ALL use so much.

Always said...

Sorry PeteysNan1, if I offended you, I didn't mean to but Jessa also has the same poor habits the rest of the family does. Jim Bob always saying, Michelle & eyes (I) did this or that. Not one of them knows when to uses me instead of I in a sentence. It amazes me that TLC lets them all make fools of themselves, with the ridiculous way they speak. I do agree that although Jessa may not be the worst one in the family when it comes to her command of the English language, the fact that she never shuts up doesn't help & Ben is like puppy dog, whatever they tell him to say or do he does it. These two people raising children is just plain abuse. I don't like either Jessa or Ben or the name Spurgeon but he is an adorable little boy who is going to become another hick. We are now seeing another whole generation of hicks. I wonder what education Josh's kids are receiving. Not much I guess, although Anna considers herself a qualified teacher. She also cannot speak correctly. These are truly lost children & it's a shame. Of course Jim Bob is getting what he wanted. He has always said they would have about 2 hundred grandchildren. Seems like they are on their way to achieving the number he wants. Just imagine what 2 hundred well-educated young people could do with their lives?

Natasha said...

Did anyone notice the amount of air time the "friend" Kendra got? I wonder if we might be seeing one of the boys in a courtship next. This could have been a screen test to see if she could handle the cameras. Maybe if that happens, Joy could go very, very slow in her courtship or even break it off. I so wish for her to be allowed to be happy.

summer rays.. said...

Which one was Kendra, the one with the straight hair or wavy/curls? I saw a girl in the VDay photos and there was a girl with very pretty, straight hair sitting next to Joseph. At first I thought it was Anna because she had a vest on that looked like something Anna wears. But Anna was sitting further down.

Natasha said...

It looks like BOTH girls may be in play. This article points out that the Caldwell sisters Kendra and Lauren have been with the Duggars for both the wedding and the Valentine's Day party. If Austin was brought along as a suitor, why not those two as well?

Courtney said...

It might be more interesting and draw more viewers to see a Duggar male courting.

Aunt Bea said...

Joseph said that he didn't feel called to a courtship with anyone at this time, so I doubt either of those girls were there for that. Perhaps they were chaperones for their brother, Austin.

Junebug said...

People keep mentioning that Austin is the same age as Joy. I remember A birthday post they did for him a few months back. It said he was turning 23. That puts him at 4 years older than Joy. Now that's not a huge age gap, but they are definitely not both in their teens. Which makes me question the validity of the "We have been friends since I was three" statement. How many of you know a 7 year old boy who would be interested befriending a 3 year-old girl, especially when there are Duggar boy's close to his age.

JakefromStateFarm said...

Junebug - Good catch on the age difference between Joy and Austin. If we can "read"Joy from just TV, I would guess that she is not into Austin - she just isn't beaming or seemingly interested in him being there. Austin, however, seems to really like the spotlight and camera. He is now featured in the opening credits of the show standing next to Joy. How weird is that?! Talk about pushing these girls into relationships! They are just beginning a courtship - why is he "featured" in the opening credit picture?

Stephanie said...

If I remember correctly, Austin has one older sister. Very homely type and she may already be married. This is just off the top of my head so someone with more knowledge please check me. As for Austins age? I have no idea but would love to know how old he is.

liza J said...

What does "called to a courtship" mean? They all have a weird way of speaking indicating they have no free will but hang around waiting for callings or Jimbob's commands.

Katrina said...

The Duggars always stretch the truth to the point of lying...sure the 7 year old boy was interested in a 3 year old girl (hope not!!)...Jinger a photographer, Jana concert pianist, Jill a midwife, a son a police officer, a miscarriage is turned into a major televised funeral for the fetus complete with photographs but then cheaply buried in a metal can Jimbob probably got out of his huge storage building, not a nice little coffin considering the money they made out of this tragedy, Jess & Ben adopting when they 2 kids, are so young, have no job and no extra baby room, TLC built the Duggar house, not the little children in flipflops and the kids surely did not construct the tree house.....and the lies continue.. Most likely the fathers got this brainstorm for the arranged marriage to garner publicity for the campground plus all the money for all filmed that the TLC show would bring in.

Bird said...

What can they possibly say about any of those menboys that would interest a girl? That they do nothing and will be by your side 24/7? That as long as you are joyfully available and want as big a family as possible that daddy dearest will house you? What a life....

coleen said...

https://www.instagram.com/p/BM6ua74AvTt/?tagged=duggarwedding

are these the girls who are rumored to be courting a duggar boy?

Willow said...

Austin has an older sister who is married and is either pregnant or just had a baby. She is his only sibling. Austin in 23. The Caldwell girls are daughters of a pastor. I think (giving her the benefit of the doubt) that Joy means their families have been friends since she was 3, so naturally all the kids knew each other. I don't think she meant friends like one-on-one at that age. That would be rather weird. They don't really know how to communicate well due to limited knowledge of grammar, slang etc. You would think they would be better at it by now, but they are not much into learning, sadly.

Bird said...

Has anyone heard Austin in the preview, talking to Mr Jimbob? He describes his interest in Joy because she is a diligent worker???? Well, I think it went like this: Austin and his parents saw how great life is for Derrick and Ben, no job, no bills, no responsibility, just a girl who will be joyful at all times, have baby after baby and do whatever he wants...

Meme said...

I am sitting here waiting on tonight's thrilling episode (sarcasm).

What I remember about Austin's parents is that they HIGHLY VALUE a personal work ethic, so Austin may well be telling the truth about why he likes Joy. Having said that, I cannot imagine how his hardworking family will jive with Joy's rich bunch of slackers. I mean, these people WORK! Of course, my SE Arkansas friend tells me that the Duggars actually work much more than the series portrays. Regardless, Joy is in for it.

Pot Pies for Supper said...

Can you imagine what freak show The Duggar family will be by the time of Josie's arranged marriage??

Have you met the Duggars? said...

I doubt many SE Arkansas people know the Duggars all that well on a regular basis since they are in the opposite part of the state in Northwest Arkansas.

Meme said...

Apologies for the mistake. I meant to type NE Arkansas (I originally grew up in Southeast Arkansas so I guess that is where the mistake came from?). Anywho, MEME needs to turn in early tonight!
P.S. I don't believe that the Duggars are hardworking. Just too much evidence to the contrary, friends!

Cheryl Vetter said...

"Well Austin, how's the dozer business going? The house remodeling and flipping going?" So, you want to make sure your daughter will be provided for.... that's great. How do you boys answer that question when asking a potential father in law to court his daughter? How can your sons provide for a family? Such a double standard!

Happy Go Lucky said...

Why does Jessa have to get her nose in her siblings business and give her snotty opinion? Every single episode. Ugh. It's like fingernails on a chalkboard.

Ellie On a Roll said...

I met someone from AK last summer and the lady (college educated) said that most residents don't want to be associated with the Duggars.

Meme said...

Dear "have you met the Duggars"...I'm going for three here. Lemme try one last time:
1. I used to live in SE Arkansas.
2. I now live in NE Arkansas.
3. My friend lives in NW Arkansas.

These types of mistakes are common for me I am sorry to say! Anyway, my friend lives in Springdale and gives me info occasionally. He says that the Duggars venture out from time to time, always in a "group" of two or more. Says that they are low key and modest in their dress and behavior. One thing that irked me was when he told me that people are usually excited to see the Duggars whenever they venture out. Of course that was some time ago. I can't imagine anyone being all that excited anymore.

Sharla said...

Reminder time: AK is Alaska not Arkansas.

Katrina said...

Re: Bird......shocking what Austin says about Joy. I'd want a man to marry me because he loves me, maybe wants to care for me, not because I am a diligent worker. You need to love and desire the one you marry, not hope for lots of work out of them.

Willow said...

I just want to say that I actually enjoyed the parts where Jeremy and Jinger were in their OWN honeymoon episode! I think I like Jeremy a lot more now. They are more interesting than their siblings so far, to me. Jinger was showing way more personality and she and Jeremy seemed pretty comfortable with everything. She looked adorable and I am so happy for them. They sure did seem relieved to be past all the hoopla. Her wardrobe was much improved as well. I wonder who helped her shop. It seemed there was a little less of Queen Jessa and that was good. The parts of Austin with Jim Bob was so rehearsed and actually seemed they were reading from a script of the "Duggar line" of robot-speak. I hope Austin is more normal when away from JB. It does look, however, like Joy is in for a life of helping house flippers and camp counseling. I hope she reminds Austin that women aren't suppose to work, LOL.

Tanya T said...

Jinger and Jeremy seem so sweet together. Less like an arraigned marriage that her sister's seem to have. I remember when Jessa was first courting Ben, she seemed so uninterested in him, almost stiff and awkward around him. Jill just seemed like a 12yr old with her first crush. I still think those 2 marriages were arraigned by JimBob. Then Austin comes along to court Joy and Jimbob acts like he has to think about it and he is unsure. I call b.s. on that. Michelle has hinted that Joy is too much of a tomboy, this could be their way of breaking her independent fiesty spirit. Johanna has shown signs of a spunky feisty personalitiy herself, she will be the next girl they try to break.

Arkie said...

I hope she reminds Austin that women aren't suppose to work

Oh, their women are supposed to work, alright, just not for PAY or CREDIT. Remember, Anna did all the paperwork and accounting for the used car lot, after Josh got everything in a total mess. And did it while she was pregnant/pregnant and caring for a baby/pregnant and caring for a baby and a toddler.

Or maybe it's just a non-Duggar woman that's supposed to work, because I haven't seen ANY of the Duggar girls do ANYTHING useful.

Judy said...

Jinger wearing sleeveless? What is this world coming to?

Judy said...

I saw the coming attractions for next "season" and I feel sick. Joy Anna already engaged? She is my daughter's age -- my college age daughter who still needs has so much growing up to do!

Taek said...

I have a nagging feeling that Jim Blob is going to start really resenting Jeremy very soon, if not already!

LilBit0318 said...

A few thoughts on the episode last night:

1. Austin seems to have all the personality of a stalk of broccoli!

2. Again with the Duggars making themselves look completely stupid, and then laughing it off! No clue what a joey is? Something that most five-year-olds probably know? Not to mention Jeremy not seeming to know that a koala is a marsupial ("It's a...Koala!" *INSERT EYE ROLL*). But that's Ok! You're in Duggarville. No need for all that fancy knowledge around here!

3. As Judy said, I saw that "Next season..." promo and nearly threw up! Looks like Joy probably is engaged like some of us had guessed. *SIGH* Guess she'll be married and knocked up before she hits 20, then be stuck! Completely ridiculous!

Enough Already said...

Personally I liked Austin, but it just bugs me that they don't kiss. It was obviously a moment that called for a kiss and they just stared at one another awkwardly until he announced "may I give you a side hug" to seal the deal! Really?? Why announce it's a "side hug"? Just hug her for heavens sake! This waiting to kiss thing that they all follow is not biblical - just their own legalistic belief. Just because one hugs and kisses their boyfriend does not mean they are going to have sex. It is actually possible to practice abstinence while dating AND occasionally kiss, hug (full frontal), and hold hands!

Enough Already said...

One more thing- has Anna really filed for divorce from Josh? It's on the magazine covers in the grocery stores!

Disgusted with Duggars said...

Re:Tanya T's comment about Johanna being the next Duggar girl to have her spirit broken. Sorry Tanya, but that's already well on it's way to happening or should I say it's been completed. Nobody seems to know exactly what techniques Michelle uses on these girls but they work & work swiftly, when she decides it's time to eliminate any & all signs of a spunky, feisty personality & instead change her into a "little lady." Watching Hannie who is now safely in the background, while she goes wedding dress shopping with the other girls, her eyes are just blank. There's no joy, excitement or happiness there anymore. No more signs of that little girl that could give as good as she got, especially in a discussion with Jackson. At one time Jim Bob really enjoyed watching these two spar verbally, actually referring to them as acting like a "married couple." Everyone knew that once Michelle had Joy safely tucked away with her older sisters, never stepping out of line, she would move on to Hannie & she did. Now instead of being outside on the swing, zip line, or playing basketball with the boys, Hannie's safely tucked away in the kitchen or laundry room with Jana. Even when she was in a wedding party, she had to be paired with her brother-in-law, so as not be anywhere close to a groomsman. Groomsmen who were there to support their friend & not to take advantage of young Hannie. How can the extended family watch what's happening in that family, & do nothing. Children's lives absolutely ruined, nothing happening as far as education, no socialization whatsoever. Look for her to show up on Jim Bob's auction block when it her turn. It's certain she'll never have a choice of her own.

Aimee said...

Willow - I agree! Jinger and Jeremy seemed pretty much like any normal goofy honeymooning couple. I was glad to see Jinger in sleeveless dresses. They seemed so much more natural and comfortable together than Ben/Jessa and Jill/Derick do now and they have been married for YEARS!

It does look like Joy will be engaged next season. I hope that maybe they will allow for a LONG engagement. Austin seemed stiff during his conversation with JB and with Joy but at least he wasn't a nervous bumbling fool like Ben or Derick.

Real World said...

Jinger and Jeremy looked very comfortable with each other. I think Jeremy commented how nice it was to finally have some time alone - with on chaperone. Jinger's style looks like it has loosened up a little now that she isn't under DimBob's roof. She sported some leggings with an oversized shirt dress, sleeveless tops and stylish booties. I predict that we'll see even more loosening up in the future. Fashion seems to be important to Jeremy.

Joy and Austin are painful to watch. Joy looks sad and despondent, but I don't think she has a way out of this.

Jana is the strong one. I can't imagine how many courters she has had to firmly turn down, refusing to buy into a miserable life. She'll be the one to write the tell all book.

Heart in Florida said...

Enough Already, your comments made me think that the real reason it's so easy for Austin and Joy to not even hold hands is because they both really want it that way because they're just not really interested OR attracted to each other. I think Joy will postpone ANY affection until it's absolutely necessary....the honeymoon. So sad for these two as they don't know what they have been "encouraged to do" by their parents.

LilBit0318 said...

Oh! And I thought of one more thing I wanted to throw out there, too. I see several people saying how they liked the way Jinger and Jeremy seemed comfortable with each other, but was I the only one bothered by their behavior in that kitchen? I mean, I'm not one to get too riled up over PDA to a certain point, but I don't think that was the time or the place for it. They were supposed to be there to learn, but were paying very little attention. And I felt like it was disrespectful of the chef to just keep at it after she'd basically told them multiple times to get a room already!

Heart in Florida said...

It's just not right in my mind that these couples can't and don't "let their guard down" before marriage when with each other. Did that strike any of you as sad and unreal? The couple NEEDS to be themselves, without pretense, company manners, hair perfect, etc when spending time with each other. You need to see one another not on a good day or when they're sick and have a red nose and messy hair. Their courtship crap is pretend, fairy land la la stuff, not real at all. After they're already married then the reality sets in? How is that being prepared for one another? It's not IMO.

seriously said...

I am pretty sure TLC staged the scene with the chef complaining about the PDA-she seemed to smirk when talking about it-and it would be like TLC to add some "drama" to the episode. The cooking lesson was paid for and the chef would not be disrespectful to a paying client.

Dont get it said...

I agree with seriously. The cooking scene was staged just like everything else they do. The whole show is phony. What would be really interesting is to see what any of them actually do during a typical day. We never see any of them doing anything naturally. Michelle walks around attending events as if she has no other children to think about. we never see her with a couple of youngsters in tow like any other mother with young ones. Anna, when she is shown, usually is carrying the youngest as if thats her only child. The only time they portrayed anything real was when Anna and Jill had a playdate at a play center and all the kids were there. The honeymoon episode was at least somewhat entertaining, they seem to have a lot to learn about each other but seem genuinely infatuated. They dont know each other well enough to be in love.

PeteysNan1 said...

I wonder how many takes they had to do with that meeting of JimBlob & Austin. I wanted to jump through the screen and punch him in the face. That serious face and then him saying "let us think about it and i'll get back to you". First...who is "us"? No one was there but him. Then after he asks about the flipping houses and dozer business in 15 seconds he says yes. What is wrong with those people?! Everytime a young guy comes along that is having "those thoughts..sex) they start the run for the altar. You cant hold hands because it may get you sexually aroused. Seriously? It makes me sick Joy only being 18 and having experienced nothing of the world being sold off like a prized cow. I got married at 18 in 1975. I'm not saying it cant work because mine did. I was married to my husband 39 years and 9 months before he passed away almost 2 yrs ago. I had at least been out there in the world and experienced things and it was my choice to get married. The sisters before her were bad enough but this one with Joy disturbs me on so many levels. How can they as parents say they have done their job when you have guys in there dealing for your daughters just so they can start doing it and making babies? Like total strangers...they dont know each other at all. And yes..whoever said above its all about her work ethic. He adds almost as an after thought of course her beauty. Sick just sick...all of them!

Elspeth said...

For accuracy, Joy is 19 and will be 20 in October.

Brenda B. said...

Soon Joy will be forced to use her excellent work ethics to slave away at the campground, all the while being pregnant & birthing babies for the next 25 years. It's a sad outlook for this girl who had a joy about her, like her name, that was conveniently destroyed somehow by Michelle to "turn her into a lady" so she would be ready to meet her fate in life. No wonder she has a bossy attitude now, not a happy girl, like she is being suppressed. The Duggar family is very sad at this point. Wonder how Jimbob's prize sons would answer questions from a prospective father in law. How do you support yourself..how will you support my daughter?
I can see them standing their with dull, blank looks on their faces, then quoting a bible verse on how the lord will provide.

Meme said...

I can't imagine a fiancée being asked what he loves about me and hearing him say, "Well, Meme is a diligent worker who can also organize little kids..."

Austin gave the Gothard-and-Jimbob-Duggar-approved answer. I am sure that the young man who married Austin's sister gave a similar answer back when he was courting Austin's sister and being grilled by her father. Talk about a stepford world! Typical cult full of interchangeable people, courtships, weddings, babies and lives. Isn't it interesting that even when someone points out that a belief is actually NOT biblical, such as no kissing before marriage, the belief is STILL upheld and honored? Because the Book of Daddy trumps EVERYTHING...including the Holy Bible.

Cheryl Vetter said...

I also enjoyed seeing Jinger and Jeremy acting like normal newlyweds... when they were in the kitchen and he was standing behind her with his arm around her, kissing and nuzzling her- that is what normal couples do, they looked so much more natural than I've seen Jill and Derick or Jessa and Ben ever act. I thought it was sweet, although I didn't quite agree with the timing. I think the chef was annoyed with them, and I can't blame her. As cute as they were, they could have saved that for later on. This lady where there to do a job, regardless of who was paying- she didn't seem the type to be paid off. When the chef scolded them, the look of horror on Jinger's face- oh my! I realized that is probably the first time ANYONE has ever corrected her... she didn't go to mainstream school, where a teacher might correct you; she's never had a job, where a boss would correct you.... this was probably the first time she has ever gotten in trouble! :)

Aunt Bea said...

I agree that Jinger and Jeremy were rude to the chef. This is her profession and regardless of paid for TV or not, she obviously came in to work when the restaurant was closed to do this for them and show some Aussie style grilling. This is her profession and the Vuolos were rude to her by not paying attention to what she was trying to show them. Good for her for scolding them.

Opie said...

Just the right age for junior college and exploring her career options. Marriage is their way of subjugating women.