Monday, June 12, 2017, 9:00 PM, Joy's Wedding

It's hard to believe that Joy and Austin's wedding day is finally here!  Get a first look at this exciting and emotional event as Joy walks down the aisle to become Mrs. Austin Forsyth. Then watch their journey to the altar from the very beginning.

120 minutes

Ratings:  1.628 M viewers and a .33 rating.


Please remember no putting them down for no booze, no dancing, and no full served dinner.  Thanks!
Also it's off topic to tell us all about your wedding, your cousin in Ohio, etc.

91 comments:

Aunt Bea said...

Why, once again is TLC starting a season out of chronological order? We still haven't seen Spurge's delivery yet they're showing Joy's wedding? I hope this season isn't filled with recaps of recaps after every break. We get about 12 minutes of new footage in each episode. This show needs to go and it needs to go NOW.

Wednesday said...

I will NOT be watching the show. I just can't feed the rodents.

Ruby T. said...

Just like "Wednesday", I can't stomach watching the show either. Watching such repetitive "new" episodes is such a waste of time. This website is my guilty pleasure.

Also Me said...

I'm with Wednesday & Ruby T. Aunt Bea, you by your post, already know exactly what's going to be shown please join us.

Aunt Bea said...

I hear you, "Also ME, Wednesday & Ruby T".....solidarity!

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Kitty Kazz said...

At the homeschooling conference, boys got to be outside. They could run, play, explore, canoe and hike. The girls had to stay inside and do crafts. The strict enforced gender roles in this cult are abusive. Misogyny is not ok. Watching their television program confirms and supports their position as fundie royalty, and from that, a lazy entitled life with their millions. But more importantly also a platform where they can spread their distorted and intolerant religious views.

Opie said...

Dr. Charles Stanley visited in their home, ate tatertot casserole and complimented them on their ministry. They are all distorted, intolerant and hypocritical.

Aunt Bea said...

Perhaps Dr. Charles Stanley really didn't know who the Duggars were and agreed to appear because he was told only the complimentary, highlighted 'religious ministry' stuff about their show. I'm sure he has never watched the program. If he has seen it recently, I'm sure he would shake his head. I hope, at least, that would be his reaction to them now.

Wheez said...

Wow feel sorry for the janitor with all that straw mess and confetti everywhere

Jennifer said...

If you look into crossroads church weddings you will see in their contracts family is responsible for all clean up or be fined. They also have to have it cleaned up by a certain time

Meme said...

Austin: Do ya'll have any advice for us before we get married?
Ben: Blah, blah, blah, blowhardy blah.
Derick: Yack, yickety yack.
Jill: Like...so like...and like...like like like.

But the BEST was this:
Jessa: Austin, do ya'll hire other people to help fix up houses before you flip them or?
Austin: No, we do it ourselves.
Jessa: WOW!!!

The wedding was sweet. Austin seems like a very sincere, hardworking young man. (How will he ever fit in?). Joy was a laid back, frisky little thing! Loved her pretty veil. This wedding, imo, was superior to any of the others. Lots of credit goes to Cindy for that. Love that she wears slacks even though she's in a trouser minority. Cindy kinda mugs for the camera. Love her.

Lastly, I remember why I do not miss Jim Bob or Michelle. The mugging, speeching, squeaking, attention seeking...

Stephanie said...

Well, Joy officially has the worst dress. Worse than Anna's and Jills. Michelle didn't get her hair fixed and looks like she wore a repeat dress but who knows and I haven't seen yet if she's wearing her Frankenstein classic shoes.
Sickening of Joy asking Austin if he wants her to change her hair and if he wants her to wear a veil or not. Speaks volumes on how the women are treated and act around their men.

Joes girl walking in on that scene in those hideous shoes looks like she's trying to walk in stilts.

Between Michelle not getting ready, Jimbob in the same cheap suit, and Joe proposing Joys wedding certainly does seem like the most careless event so far. And I haven't even watched the whole thing.

Oh, John did the entire Josiah bit about getting poked by a pin while Cindy put it on, the height of comedy these fellas. And John laughs exactly like Jimbob.

Frannie D. said...

Could it be that Austin will put the lazy boys, such as Ben, to shame with his work ethics?
Jessa seemed impressed enough to say "wow". I do recall Ben sat on the sofa when the ceiling fan or light fixture was installed by Jana !!! in his borrowed house so there can't be much hope held out for Ben.

Big kite said...

Please boycott the following companies who are supporting this cult:

1. Kia
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3. Gold Bond
4. Progressive Insurance
5. Taco Bell
6. American Home Shield
7. JC Penny
8. RockAuto

The the following show and movie promotions were associated with "Counting On" through promotion, I would not be happy if I were them:

1. 90-Day fiancé
2. Tiny Luxury
3. Hair Goddess
4. Little People Big World
5. OutDaughtered
6. 7 Little Johnstons
7. Food Network
8. I am Jazz
9. Rough Night
10. DespicableMe3

Bird said...

I truely believe those guests are paying customers. I paid attention to the audience this time and noticed many women not dressed like them, pants, women with short hair, but the clincher was the boy with the mohawk during the reception! Also, did anyone notice no real commercials and they seemed to block Anna?

Dar said...

Thought Joy, as a bride, was the most natural of the lot. She looked lovely and I think she absolutely does love that young man. Really am sick of Jessa and Jill and their spouses. They really have NOTHING to contribute to the conversation. Noticed Anna in the wedding party, but no sign of Joshie.

Once again, I was looking for little Jordyn to become one of the attendants. It is almost as if that little girl is invisible. Michelle and JimBob have a lot of nerve adopting a child when one of their own is almost completely ignored. I wish Jana would leave and take Jordyn with her. As I recall, she was the one to whom Jordyn walked her first steps. Michelle and Jimbob make my skin crawl, with their phony faces and prayers. JMHO

Aimee said...

I was thankful good-friend Cindy came in to help as I think Joy was given a very nice wedding. I agree that her dress was awful but she also hates dresses so maybe she just said "Whatever." -- I think Austin seems like the nicest, most down to earth of the in-laws so far. He didn't seem remotely interested in the (pointless) advice that the other couples gave so I think he asked just for the scene for the show. -- Why when looking through the clothes did Jessa still have clothes at her parents house?! -- My favorite part was watching him dig through that shoe pile looking for Joy's other shoe. Perhaps that was the moment he realized he had to get that poor girl out of there and fast! She may be young to be married but at least she is out of that house!

Stephanie said...

Tried to watch all of it but fast forwarded a little hear and there. I found out I like Austin a little more than I thought I would. He is actually athletic at the trampoline park. I didn't expect anything from Derick but Ben acts like he's a top athlete.

Those two asking Austin about how he would provide for a wife and family is comical since neither of them have jobs or health insurance.

I live in the south and if you don't know about the heat and humidity I will tell you it does a number on your hair and the sweat accumulated throughout the day is gross. Some days it seems like you never can get clean. So when you have a seven PM wedding try to wash and do your hair right before the wedding. And as much hair as these girls have I know they probably sweat in their scalp like crazy. janas hair looked bad and had a rouge string in her eye, Michelle's hair was sadly just not what we are used too, Cindys hair was over sprayed, Joys and Jens looked pretty.

No mention of the Anna Josh grand baby when the Thanksgiving Dillard baby was announced. Anna not shown so no pay check for Josh's family. No slaves for Thanksgiving so restaurant here come the Duggars. Jana wasn't there, nor Jessa nor Jinger (was Joy?) only Jill and she ain't doing nothing but growing a baby. So Janas on her own and Hannie doesn't have the hang of the chores yet hard as they might try.
Frankenstein shoes? YES I live for Michelle's shoes and hair and would be disappointed if she changed too much.

Tori said...

Re Josh not being seen. I know the agreement for counting on was no Josh to be seen or heard. TLC took some heat for the toddler and fake light flare they used at Jingers wedding to hide him so I am not surprised hes nowhere to be seen this time. One fan on their blog was complaining about all the horrible adverts on TLC for their own shows, and that the reason Josh isn't on the show is because this is a good christian family and TLC is giving into the haters. Do the fans not understand that TLC is a business and the bottom line is money? If the Duggars have truely forgiven Josh and welcomed him back into the family why do they still allow him to be kept out of the show. Why does Jimbob not tell TLC to take a hike, that he is supporting his son and if he is not on the show then the show is over? Of course we all know the reason why, and its simple, money. Josh doesn't deserve to be on the show and I for one can't stand seeing him, but would you not defend your child and stand with them, try and get them help, and help them rebuild a life. They ostracise him themselves for the almighty $, but there again this is not a normal family.

JadedLongTimeViewer said...

How very rude to stand up in front of the 1000 people who came to your wedding and announce that you won't be staying very long at the reception! If I had driven to the location, bought a gift, maybe even stayed a night or two in a hotel on Memorial Day weekend just to hear that the bride and groom are in a hurry to leave, I would find my gift and take it back. Manners would dictate that you speak personally to every person who comes to your wedding. I think when you invite so many people that you do not have time to greet them, you have invited way too many!

Marie said...

Oh Joy! I so wished something better for you. But seeing as you confess to not wearing shoes and seeing you run around in dirty feet and then slip those grimey feet into sad ballet flats out of that dirty shoe pile...oh what stinky feed you must have!

Barefoot and soon to be pregnant. Thanks for holding up the Gothard Stepford wife stereotype. #sigh

Vilente said...

Jaded, When have the Duggars ever displayed manners and grace? They are rude people. It's all about what they want at that very moment and no thought of others. Has narcissistic personality disorder spread through the clan, even the husbands catching it eventually.

sandi said...

Bird,it's possible the guests may have been paid actors,like they have on the courtroom shows nowadays.Jmo

Duggarsbegone said...

That was so GROSS.

Aunt Bea said...

Did Joy say why they weren't staying long at their own reception? I think that's rude.

Andrea said...

Couldn't get through the entire episode but there were a few things which really jumped out at me of what I watched. Jessa, Jill and Joy Anna shopping and Jessa talking about getting maternity clothes for pregnancy. She spoke like maternity attire was some sort of luxury. Girl - really? Every pregnant person I know buys clothes for their pregnant body, but the Duggar's just squeeze into what they already own. So weird.

Also Joy saying that she just wore whatever was in the closet and now that she's courting Austen, he likes dresses so now she likes to wear dresses for him. Ugh . . .it's almost as bad as Jinger and the book comment.

Glad the numbers are so poor. 1.6 isn't great for a season premiere and a wedding.

Wheez said...

Maybe I missed it, but I dont recall seeing Josie at all.

Missy said...

Re: Stephanie's comment about the Duggars going to a restaurant for Thanksgiving. Nevaa gonna happen. All restaurants up the prices for those special occasions & no way will Jim Bob open that wallet. They'll have Thanksgiving. Jana can certainly handle it, while she's watching the little ones, so they don't have an accident such as getting burned, or cutting themselves on a sharp knife. Of course, she'll get no praise or thanks, for all her work it will all be about the Thanksgiving baby. Probably there will be an announcement of another grandchild on the way. In fact, it's a surprise that Jana didn't have to cater the wedding.

roddma said...

This wedding just bothered me.The rest were young too, but I guess it is since Joy isn't even 20. I felt the same about Alyssa Bates. None get to live a life outside the parents before then.

lisa mcgingess said...

anyone notice that even though they invite all those people half the church was empty if you really looked good. do not think one thousand people were there? also any else think joy and austin wedding seemed like a prom? just seemed dumb. bride and groom leave and then Joesph then asked kendra to marry him.

Aunt Bea said...

I didn't like Joy's eye makeup at all. Why did she have so much eyeliner on and why did they do her in purple eye shadow? Her lips looked good, nice color for her.Her hair looked like she barely blew it dry out of the shower; just hanging there. It makes it that her veil isn't even visible and all that hanging hair covers any beautiful lace work on the shoulders and top of her gown hidden from view. Just not a neat, put together look for her IMO. Those bridesmaids and Jill looked awful; dark, drab color and ill matching BROWN sandals? They needed some glitz in the dress, even a sparkly belt would have helped and they needed desperately to wear navy blue dress shoes to help out that mess.

Emma said...

As I am in another country I couldn,t watch this even if I wanted to (I don't), but I take it there was no pregnancy announcement from Jinger? The fact that the huggars were waiting for this to happen sort of proves that even they know how predictable this show has become. After one major life event, in this case a wedding they always have another waiting in the wings. As Jinger seems to be in no rush to pop out a sprog just yet another engagement was arranged, and happened at the reception no less! What else will this season hold, Jessa birthing Hank and the prep for a wedding that has already been seen, how is this show still on the air? The fans don't really care about these peoples lives, they just love the constant big life events that are passed off as entertainment and salivate at the thought of a new courtship, engagement, wedding or birth. No thought for the young girl with no other opportunities in life, being married off to someone the don't really know, and popping out baby after baby until their poor body is exhausted. This show will come to an end and what will the fans do for entertainment then?

Hello said...

I saw the preview for the next episode with the girls skyping with Jinger. Jillymuffin asks if she is pregnant yet and Joy asks if she has taken a pregnancy test. It has been seven months since Jinger and Jeremy got married and there has been no pregnancy announcement. The other Duggar were announcing they were expecting shortly after they said I do. I have a feeling that Jinger isn't in a hurry to have a baby anytime soon. Jeremy has no doubt been with other women and surely knows about birth control. She seems to be enjoying life away from the Duggar compound. It is also possible that they are unable to conceive. If that is the case, would they seek out medical intervention or would that go against their belief that God determines how many babies he will bless you with?

Blind as a bat said...

Am I blind? I did not see super daughter Josie at the wedding. No riding down the aisle in a wagon, no crown of flowers on her head, no mama Mechelle fawning all over her! Maybe she was in the church narthex meeting her future husband!!

InVA said...

Oh my goodness! Who produces this show and are they new at it? How many blocked shots were there during the wedding? Someone's head would be in the way, or a whole body. It was so unprofessional! In most of the shots during the processional there was something in the way of what they were trying to highlight/show. Then at one point they were showing someone and another cameraman was so clearly in the middle of the shot. Whoever shot/edited and produced this show should be embarrassed. They did a terrible job!

Seriously, what was with the decor on the stage during the wedding? I thought it was awful! A few tiny vases scattered along the floor, with some bunches of wheat, and whatever the giant arches were, that's it? The whole back wall on the stage, along the windows could have been covered easily and inexpensively with greenery. Instead all you saw was an ugly wall. Nothing was done to enhance the stage. Cindy said something about Austin saying that he liked the idea of Joy walking in a field of flowers but that was more like a mine field of tiny vases with sparse tiny flowers. If she tried to run in that she would have cut up her feet and ended up in the hospital. It was a terrible effort and crappy result.

And why in the world did John David have to go up an "conduct" during the hymn? Couldn't the audience follow along with the piano? It looked so awkward and seemed so unnecessary. So forced to highlight him in some way.

I was surprised at how sweet the proposal actually was. It was nice to see all wholeheartedly happy with how he proposed and that Joy and Austin were 100% behind incorporating it in their reception.

Why couldn't Jana go clothes shopping with the girls? Because she wasn't going on the fabulous "triple date"? Nothing like making your sister feel like crap because she's not in a relationship. Poor Jana. I just so feel for her and cannot understand how her sisters could exclude her like that.

Seriously, why do we need to see Derick throwing up, again? Again, WHO produces this show and how do they keep their job???

Austin ran circles around Ben and Derick at the trampoline park. For someone who supposedly works out at much as Ben, he certainly doesn’t seem able to do much.

Austin seems to have a quiet, kind, way about him and a drive to succeed, which is so nice. I hope he puts Ben and Derick to shame. He seems very comfortable in who he is and a real maturity. He also seems to really love Joy, which wasn’t so apparent in the beginning but maybe it’s just because of his low-key manner. I wish them all the best.


Elspeth said...

It apparently didn't show with filming but the "back wall" is all windows and the wedding was timed for sunset. That's why Joy Anna was all over it WILL be on time.

sandi said...

Tlc does a terrible job with the lighting as well.I recall a guy on a previous episode who looked like his glasses were stabbing him in the face,due to wrong angle lighting.It was so distracting I couldn't even concentrate on what he was saying.Do these ppl get any real training? It all seems to be very low key production in exchange for big bucks.Jmo

Wheez said...

SO glad there was no annoying spectacle of Dillard..or Ben..or anybody..running over to dip n smooch the wife on her way out after the ceremony.

Aunt Bea said...

Wheez: We don't know if those husbands behaved like jerks during the recessional or not. TLC didn't show but a second or two of it. I don't think they wanted to bad publicity. I think if the guys behaved themselves, the would have showed it. So, I think they 'stole' their wives. This wedding episode had terrible editing; it was very choppy and just plain bad photography. I didn't enjoy it much at all.
So tired of Michelle's screechy, fake voice. She made Jill's baby announcement all about how many grandchildren SHE had. Just selfish of her, as usual.

Mrs. Jensen said...

Someone posted Dillard was filmed throwing up again?? What? At the wedding? If so, he really needs medical help, looking so sickly too.

Wouldn't it be nice if the married sisters & brother in laws fixed Jana up on a date with one of their nice Christian friends so she could join in the adult dates, not be stuck with the kiddies all the time. Wondering if Jimbob would allow this adult woman to do so or do all the suitors need to be chosen by daddy.


Wheez said...

Aunt Bea: My comment was in reference to what was aired on tv. Of course they could've and probably did show out.

MayDay said...

Re Bird: I think you are right about paying customers. When Jim Bob and Joy came down the stairs, Joy wanted to continue walking, Jim Bob really didn't and he said the public people use the bathrooms here inferring that they will see her and kudos to Joy for doing what she wanted and ignoring Jim Bob and she kept saying that's fine, that's fine and walked to where she wanted. Right then I thought that they must have the public come to the wedding to make it look like a lot of people. Because if they weren't public people Jim Bob should of referred to them as guests.

daley said...

I wonder if they paid these guests or if they sold tickets to the wedding. I could see Jim Bob trying to turn it into a money making event.

Wheez said...

It's not interesting enough for me to look up cross church's contracts but okay. Then I feel sorry for whoever, prob the volunteers and/or Jana who had to clean up that mess.

LilBit0318 said...

Mrs. Jensen...No, there wasn't any new footage of Dillard throwing up. They just showed the same footage of him puking on the side of the road that we saw when they originally brought the whole thing up. Then they showed him going to an allergist to see if he could get any answers. Had to wonder if she was any better than Dr. Fedosky!

And as far as paying people to be there, it's very possible! But I did notice Nathan Bates in the crowd during the ceremony, so I was probably right before in saying that they may not have distanced themselves from the Duggars as much as they'd like us to believe. I will say I didn't see any of the rest of the Bateses sitting around him, but they probably scattered themselves around the place trying not to be noticed or something.

laura said...

What kind of person would PAY to go to a wedding. And a duggar wedding? And a wedding where if the money is flowing into pockets, no food?? Or music.
In other words people are paying for boredom.

Andrea said...

"Jim Bob really didn't and he said the public people use the bathrooms here." I think he just meant the unwashed masses, not member of their immediate family. I think he was trying to say, this isn't a private, intimate place to wait, but Joy had her mind and said that it was fine. Good for her, standing up to her Dad. Perhaps this is a sign of good things to come. That said, unlike Jessa who seemed to not care about final words with Dad-o before her wedding moment, Joy actually seemed kind of touch by Jim Bob's words. Weird. Maybe she's a bit more of a Daddy's girl because she was the only girl smack in the middle of so many boys. She's in the middle of two older brothers and five younger.

Katrina said...

Is the show so pitiful and needing exciting filming that we have to get another look at Derick puking?? Thank goodness it was not at the wedding.

Wednesday said...

Why in the world was Mechelle walking Austin down the aisle? She displaced his father? Why? Is this a thing?

Just Crazy said...

Re: Mrs Jensen's comment about Jana being "fixed up" for date. There is no such thing as dating in the Duggar family. There is only courting, which is serious, as it leads to engagement & marriage (except for Josiah, we don't know what happened there) Jana will never be fixed up by anyone except "daddy." That seems out of the question now, as Jana has so many other responsibilities, i.e. childcare, household duties, cooking for the family, laundress for her entire family, including her lazy brothers who should be doing their own laundry at this point in time (my son started doing his own laundry at age 9 & it wasn't difficult to teach him how to sort the dark clothes from the white.) Since he's now a bachelor it was a good idea that he learn to do his own wash & learn to cook too. Even if a man is married, these days most young women have jobs & come home just as tired as their husband. Just what they need to find a husband lying on the couch watching TV & waiting for them to come home & asking "what's for dinner?" Back to the point about a date for Jana,there's no time for her to just enjoy her life, & she would never get permission to have a date or just an escort for an occasion such as a wedding.I know most people when they invite someone that's single will put a plus one on the invitation.We have never seen Jana go anywhere unless she's accompanied by a group of her young siblings.

Gen said...

I liked Joy's dress better than Jill's patched up mess. I was annoyed at her for asking Austin what he wanted her to do with her hair and if he wanted her to wear a veil, but I'll give the guy brownie points for telling her to do whatever she wanted to do (even though it was obvious that he would have preferred her hair to be different) and refusing to tell her what he would like. Jillimuffin, who's really good at being jealous of her sisters, must be starting to really flip out. Every single one of her sister's weddings has been much better than hers. Jill's wedding seemed pretty "country-bumpkin" compared to Jessa, Jinger and Joy's. I wouldn't be surprised if she found a reason to do a renewal. I was ok with Joe proposing to Kendra during the reception because Joy and Austin were aware of it and obviously ok with the plan.

I like seeing Joy, Austin, Joe and Kendra interact where they were together away from everything else. They seemed like any other normal young couples who are friends. There was none of the usual Duggar awkwardness between them, just four young people celebrating each other's happiness.

Sweet little girl said...

Who was the little girl who was the flower girl at Joy's wedding? One more question why couldn't it have been Jordyn? Joy had a huge wedding party including all her sisters. Of course one very pregnant one. They never would have left Jill out of the wedding.I was happy for Jenny but poor Jordyn remains, the "lost child." I feel so bad for her. What's wrong with Michelle seeing how that darling little girl is treated?

Just Me said...

Re: Shopping for clothes for the triple date they went on. Didn't Jessa even realize that the dress she picked out for Joy, was loose enough to do for a maternity dress? You don't need to go to a specialty shop, there are many very full dresses, now referred to as "baby doll dresses," sort of like the "baby doll nightgowns," were some yrs. ago, that would do for a maternity dress, or at least better than those stretchy shirts they wear.

LilBit0318 said...

And an addendum to my last post: I realize now that Carlin Bates was a bridesmaid. They kinda kept her out on the fringes during the photos, but that was her. So yeah...Whatever they're trying to get us to believe, the Bateses are still just as enmeshed with the Duggars as ever, and they're all cut from the same cloth.

Captain Crunch said...

Ok...my take on Joys wedding. I liked her dress, I thought she looked nice, but it was a little sickening when she asked Austin how she should wear her hair/veil. The wedding march was just hokey, as was the song/hymnal they all sang. Not sure about these girls and their choice of shoes...Joy wore flat brown sandals with her wedding dress but at least she wasnt barefoot like JillyMuffin at hers to DerrickDillard. Kendra seemed to have a hard time walking in her brown chunky heeled shoes as she rocked back and forth while she walked up to Joe before the wedding...thank God we didnt have to watch the Dipstick Dillard couple doing the 'dip' and trying to gain attention once they left the stage..interesting that Half A Brain Cell Seewald and Dipstick DerrickDillard as well as Catholic Basher Vuolo were not part of the wedding party. I did think it was sweet that Austin had tears in his eyes as Joy came down the aisle. I too had no issue with Joe proposing to Kendra at the wedding as he asked Joys permission and she said ok. I still think Jingers wedding was the most elegant of the Duggar siblings, including precious Joshie's. Thank God there was no spotlighting on Josie and her NICU nurse routine AGAIN.

cali-girl said...

I noticed that Joy called her father, "Daddy' when he was speaking with her before the wedding ceremony. In contrast, Jessa referred to him as "Pops"before her ceremony which seemed flippant and disrespectful to me (and I'd never heard her use that name before).

Tanya T said...

Did anyone else notice that Joy and Austin walked off together to " pray" and talk before they got themselves ready and dressed for the ceremony. No chaperone with them. Jill and Derrick couldn't even sit in an office at the church to make a phone call to his sick mother to see if she was feeling well enough to attend their ceremony, Jimbob immediately asked if they had a chaperone!

The straw all over the church floors was horrible and between that, and all the confetti, I would be livid if I was on clean up duty!

Linda said...

Clean up duty wasn't going to wait until Monday. The church had to be ready for Sunday services so someone had to be working on it by Saturday morning.

Meme said...

Straw and confetti strewn about in a church. The Duggars are such trashy people. I can say this because I too grew up in Arkansas in a Southern Baptist church. You are taught that church is God's house and a place of reverence. It was all about hushed voices, prayer and RESPECT.

Remember when Michelle was decorating for one of the girls' weddings and she ripped off a piece of scotch tape, tearing the paint from the wall? She was giggling about it to Grandma. I was horrified at her attitude. These people use weddings for showboating, running down the aisles like cheerleaders at a pep rally. Grabbing wives out of the processional, wearing black shades in the sanctuary, dramatically dipping & kissing in front of the crowd - yeh, these are modest, humble Christians. The girls seem to enjoy being on display, rubbing their pregnant "tummies" for the photographer. I do not understand why that church allows all these antics or why they allow things like confetti. There are limits...at least there used to be.

Stephanie from Virginia said...

Yes it was not nearly as crowded as the other weddings. The novelty has worn out even amongst their own cult. I think the ATI friends are tired of packing up their huge families and driving for hours, spending money for gas and other travel expenses for another Duggar wedding. They are over it. Somehow Jingers wedding was interesting to me but Joy and her teen bride bit just seemed sad or something. I think Joy will be pregnant before Jinger because she's too young to know any better.

Stephanie from Virginia said...

I hope they have decided to plan their family instead of "what God intended" I say that because that's their no birth control excuse.

God gave us all brains to plan our family and when to have children. God blessed men and women in medical science to invent birth control etc. so women wouldn't live in poverty with ten children. God blessed doctors with the ability to help couples who are infertile conceive. Etc etc.

God gives man free will to make decisions.

If s couple is infertile a doctor has them try for at least a year before they intervene so if that is what Jinger is waiting on so be it. However, maybe Jeremy (who is the head of the house) has encouraged Jinger to live awhile without having to change diapers and babysit for the first time in her life. Considering the little apartment they live in and the laundry being on another floor can you imagine what it would be like having s baby to tote around also?

Speaking of that, I'm all for newlyweds living in little apartments but, with all the money Jinger has earned over the past ten years starting in a hit TV show why are they living like they don't have anything? Also, why don't either of them work? Certainly he could "prepare sermons" and work at the same time and she could certainly work. They are on an eternal honeymoon.

Yet, Jill and Derick get the mansion. Jessa seems the boss of the Counting On show and she's still in Josh's bad luck house

Stephanie from Virginia said...

They always called Jimbob "daddy" until a few years ago they started that "pops" stuff. I'm almost fifty and my sister and I still call our parents Mama and Daddy. I think the Duggars got embarrassed for some reason or maybe one of the D boys started that Pops name. Probably stupid Josh. What do the son-in laws call Jimbob? I think Austen says Mr. Duggar but the others say Jimbob.
Which makes me like Austen even more.

Stephanie from Virginia said...

I forgot about that ridiculous moment of John David directing the guests in the hymn. It's not uncommon for a congregation to sing a hymn during a church ceremony, but to have an untalented, untrained, non-vocalist pretend to direct the congregation in song was a complete joke. (So he maybe can bang on the piano from childhood lessons.) he had NO IDEA what he was doing and could not find the downbeat to save his life.
Is this Jimbobs idea?
Have him pretend to get stuck by Miss Cindy (which is Josiah's lame bit)
have him do the interviews at the church
have him lead the congregation in song
Have in be in EVERY one of his sisters weddings
Maybe he will find a wife if we keep putting him in front of the camera just like Josh.

John was always the one who who seemed to shy away from the silliness of the tv show and now that he's going along with staging of it he is even less attractive if that's possible.

With the exception of him "forgetting" Anna's wedding ring during that ceremony. I forgot how incredibly not funny that was. And they wonder why he's single.

Jennifer said...

Not the public, public.. it was the main public entrance and public bathrooms. It wasn't the private area

Sharyn said...

To Stephanie from Virginia, with all due respect, I have to disagree with your statement regarding Jeremy not working. Being a minister IS work. Preparing sermons, weekly Bible studies, visits to hospitals, caring for the sick and needy, facilitating weddings and funerals, counseling with members, serving in the community is indeed a full-time job. My husband was a minister for over 15 years and my son is now a minister of a little church and it truly is a calling which involves time and dedication. Of course, we don't see footage of that with Jeremy but any evangelist must and does devote a great deal of time in preparing sermons.

Getting Worse said...

I didn't understand that ridiculous bit of John directing the congregation for the singing of the hymn during Joy's wedding. Maybe it's just the church I attend but I have only seen the choir directed, never the congregation when singing a hymn. I guess my church assumes that the congregation can find their way through a hymn that's printed in a hymnal. Why do they make a mockery out of such a simple thing & put their 27 yr. old son up there to act like an idiot? He certainly had no idea what he was doing.

InVA said...

Stephanie from Virginia, you articulated my thoughts exactly about John David! :-) It's as if they keep putting him front and center to try to find him a wife. Meanwhile the closest Jana gets to a man who isn't her brother is when she is a bridesmaid, during the processional and recessional of her sister's weddings.

Aunt Bea said...

John David said that is was strange to see his little sister, Joy, getting married....well, weren't all of the Duggar brides his little sisters? How was it so different to see Joy marry rather than Jill, Jessa or Jinger? This poor guy didn't make sense to me. I also think it stunting that he's sleeping in a boys dorm with children still in single digit ages. He is a grown man and quite different than an little boy. What the heck is wrong with his parents? At 27, Jim Bob was routinely impregnating Michelle...big difference here. The same goes for Jana. I'll bet that 27 year old woman has yet to sleep in a bed all her own. Previously, she had to share her bed with Josie, remember? I'm sure that kid still climbs in bed with Jana. Hopefully, Josie doesn't have routine "accidents" during the night. Jana is a woman and should have her womanly space apart from the younger 4 girls. Once again, her parents are a disgrace.

Heart in Florida said...

Sharyn: I would LOVE to see Jeremy performing real pastoral duties. With a house sized congregation of 50, I doubt there is much call for hospital/sick calls, weddings, funerals or counseling privately. If he's doing these things, they should show him going off to do those things. So far, we have seen Jeremy at the library, book store, eating out with Jinger, traveling to Arkansas, traveling to the Ark and to Duggar family events/weddings. When the heck IS he in his pastor's office at the church making himself available to his flock? He doesn't need to be babysitting Jinger every day 'working on sermons' at home. He needs to be repairing that church/house building as it's falling apart as seen on that photo with his parents and Jinger on another site.
IMO, a good pastor doesn't have time to "work at home" much..

Hildy said...

The twins need to break loose and move away. Jana probably feels responsible for the little ones as their parents are off in lala land being available to each other (doesn't that thrill wear off a bit after 30 years and 19 kids??) John David could be living in his own house but he must be kept pure for a wife he'll probably never find so he's stuck in the dormitory, afraid of hell and afraid of being shunned by the family. Could it be that the twins will be 50 years old, parents in their 70's still keeping the them pure and sheltered?? When will the being watch 24/7 end if they do not get married?

Heather said...

Who would babysit Jinger if Jeremy didn't? After all, she has show her wild side in those bermuda shorts and discovering there are books to read besides the bible. Who knows what crazy ideas could enter her mind now.....a job?? friends??

Doolin said...

I gas heard Anna refer to Jim Bob as Pops and thought that was his name instead of Grandpappy or whatever hillbilly name he might have otherwise been called.

InVA said...

I find it pretty interesting that Carlin and Joy are the same age, 19. Gil has said that Carlin is too young to get married to the boyfriend she is getting serious with and they all seem to really like. Meanwhile Jim Bob couldn't marry Joy off fast enough.

This is just one example of how I think the Bates parents truly know and love their children individually, care about the rest of their lives and want them to get married when they are ready and at an age that is a bit more appropriate.

We'll see what happens but on the latest episode of their show he and Kelly were talking about how it seems like Tori's boyfriend is someone who would take really good care of her and they would have a happy marriage. Tori is 21, working to finish her college studies, and her boyfriend has graduated.

I know they are part of the same awful cult, but I just see a big difference in how the Bates parents are actually connected to each of their children, know who they are, love them to pieces and want the best for them (at least what is the best for them in their minds). I just don't see anywhere near the same connection with the Duggars and any of their kids (except for maybe JillyMuffin).

Just Disgusted. said...

If Joy was going to have Jenny for a flower girl, what would be the harm in having two little flower girls,(Jordyn?) They have had wagons pulling I don't know how many kids down the aisle in the other girls weddings, including Josh's kids. She's just a little girl & how excited she would have been to be part of the family celebration. I don't know what's wrong with Michelle. I think for some unknown reason, she just plain doesn't like Jordyn. It appeared that Joy didn't care how many people were in the wedding party, look at how many bridesmaids she had, & yet there wasn't room for one little girl who is member of the family? Of course, when they do need her for something like ratings, they will be sure & have her front & center.

sandi said...

Alyssa Bates was 19 when she was married,but I sense she was more prepared for it than Joy.She seems more mature.
Gil and Kelly seemed shocked when she announced a pregnancy so soon,but she pointed out she would be 20 when Allie was born.Not sure what they expected anyway,it's not like they advocate birth control

Heart in Florida said...

As an Italian, I was shaking my head at Jeremy's excitement over seeing a large brick of mozzarella. That is the standard deli type of mozzarella cheese that any supermarket will slice for you. It isn't 'fresh mozzarella'. Fresh mozzarella is warm, soft and milky; a completely different texture. Jeremy brought home supermarket mozzarella. Polly-O mozzarella would have been better than that. It probably went moldy in the fridge; it was so large for 2 people.

Sniffles said...

Re: John David's song leading: it may seem odd to some, but what he did is exactly what takes place every day in many churches across the South at weddings, church services and funerals. Not all churches have choirs (or instruments) or professionally trained, music-degreed song leaders and it is not uncommon for the father or brother of the bride to lead congregational singing with the accompanying hand motions. Been to a jillion of them. This is tradition and custom, just like it is tradition/custom to serve cake and punch, no dancing no booze etc.

sandi said...

I'm in the south and haven't seen it done,but I haven't been to a lot of weddings.
I recall David Waller did it also at his own wedding,in between trying on Priscilla's wedding veil

Sniffles said...

Re Sandi: trying on Priscilla's veil?! Lol! I'd like to see that.

Olivia Howie said...

I can't believe that Joy Anna is already married!

Aunt Bea said...

Sniffles: David Waller wrapped his head up in Pris's veil while she was still wearing it after their wedding ceremony in a photo. He didn't actually put her veil on himself.

Just asking said...

Re: Heart in Florida's comment about Jeremy & his excitement over the mozzarella cheese. Apparently he went off script. We all know everything is all planned out for them & they have a script to follow.

sandi said...

Aunt Bea,I know,it was tongue in cheek humor

Opie said...

She would have been a beautiful bride if she had fixed her hair shorter and without all of that kink and curl. Their hair just ruins their looks. That and the dirty feet....

John David and the guys are so lame. They need to stop asking them questions.

roddma said...

Why would the Bateses distance themselves from the Duggars? They support the same beliefs and speak at the same organizations.

LilBit0318 said...

roddma...After the Josh scandals and backlash, it seemed that they might be trying to keep their distance. No public show of support that I can remember, no appearances (Other than in the background at weddings, as was previously mentioned...) on "Counting On", and even seeming to try to highlight the differences on their own show. But, again, anyone who's followed it all knows that they're cut from the same cloth and the Bateses are really no better themselves.

Wednesday said...

It was really hard for me to watch Joy get married at 18 years old. There is just so much more to life than marriage and children so early. I understand that this is the culture they are part of, an feel comfortable in, but just no! The damage is deep between these two. You have Austin who from my standpoint has been emotionally abused his whole life, and now should be living alone trying to find himself and heal. And you have Joy who has been in slavery her whole life, and should be trying to find herself with an education or vocation. But instead they fast tracked to the alter so they could have sex. SMH.

Christine said...

1.6M viewers for a wedding! Dang, the number are down. The 19KAC episodes were averaging about 1-1.5M viewers for episodes before the girls started courting. After Jessa started courting Ben, ratings started averaging 2-2.5M viewers per episode. They got the same number of viewers for Joy's wedding as they did for the episode were they traveled to Priscilla Keller's wedding.

Other Weddings/Engagements with Nielsen ratings posted on Wikipedia.
Jill's proposal: 3.0M
Jill's wedding: 2.8M
Jessa's engagement: 3.25M
Jessa's wedding: 3.5M

Snowflake said...

I've been reading how rude it was of the couple to announce they weren't staying long and had a random thought. What if they wanted a small wedding, attended by close friends and family and we're steamroller by the grifter group? What if ol' Jim Bob insisted on inviting everyone he has ever come in contact with? HOW would the couple ever make it through 1000+ guests at a reception? Pass out the cupcakes, toss the bouquet and head out, Daddy can schmooze.

A second random thought, maybe these two wounded souls can heal with each other. It appears they work well together, remodels are stressful. Hard to say his family has the same ideas on populating the world, don't they only have two kids? Maybe these last two marriages will end up a little more mainstream in family size.

Sarah said...

Having 1000+ guests is too many. You should be able to greet each one personally and show your appreciation for them coming, many who went to a lot of expense to travel so far as well as to purchase a wedding gift. For some reason, the receiving line at my wedding didn't materialize as expcted so we only got to see some of the people at the church. Later at the reception, we went to each table to speak to everyone -- even with my big princess dress which made it hard to fit between tables, I still made the effort to greet the 150 guests. The Duggars don't know how to act appropriately in these situations to be gracious hosts and appreciative of others. I stopped watching the show a long time ago but this blog is my guilty pleasure.