They were bashing the Duggar's on the talk show "The Doctors", saying her uterus was going to fall out through her vagina, and no parent has a right to have that many kids because each kid needs individual attention...they were really mean.
On that note...I read their book and am even more inspired by them. They are a great family and deserve all the happiness they can get. If having tis many kids makes THEM happy, more power to em'. They are the complete 180 of the greedy-good-for-nothing-Gosselins.
The family seems sweet and sincere - I don't think they are outright mean and exploitive (like a J&K type parenting situation).
I just think Michelle Duggar has a baby addiction. And just because her home's jurisdictions are clean and the girls make nice tater tot casseroles and save their first kisses for the altar doesn't mean the family is going to churn out healthy, functioning adults.
Big Josh is the first "adult" to leave the nest. He seems very responsible, albeit slightly naive. I suspect (and all signs are go) that his own family will reflect the way he was raised. But I have serious doubts that this hands off, sibling-driven, en-masse parenting is going to work with all 18 of their children.
I think the reason it is always mentioned in the birth announcement articles that they would both like to have more is--the journalist probably asks some snarky question, "Are you done?" "Michelle, aren't you tired of being pregnant?" et cetera. So they have to answer, "Well, we'd both like more," even though they probably weren't planning on saying that when they're talking about their brand new baby.
I agree the name is not a good one. There are lots of other "J" names for girls: Juliana, Julie, Josephine...Jordyn is just icky.
Anonymous said... The uterus is a muscle, and using our muscles makes them stronger, so maybe her uterus is in better shape than the average persons?
Actually no....the uterus gets thinner each time it is stretched. It is an organ that is able have muscular contractions but not just a muscle. A heart contracts but is not a muscle. It is also an organ. Yes, the bigger a muscle gets, the stronger it is. However, like a uterus the larger a heart gets (cardiomegaly)the weaker it becomes.
Um, actually the heart is also a muscle, made of cardiac muscle. Many organs are made of muscle. While I agree that the uterus stretches, I don't agree that it gets thinner after each baby. Like a balloon stretches and is thinner when it is blown up, it becomes thicker again when deflated. Michelle's uterus must be in good shape since she continues to carry babies to term. I think menopause will get her before her uterus gives up.
It may be a muscle, and we can all debate whether it gets thinner or thicker with each pregnancy....one thing I KNOW for certain is that after each C-section your uterous is more at risk for rupture because a scar makes it vulnerable....
Um, actually the heart is also a muscle, made of cardiac muscle. Many organs are made of muscle.
Exactly, that is what I said. Our bodies are made of muscle also but we as a whole are not called a muscle. We are covered with skin which is the largest organ in the body but we are not called an organ. Anyway, yes with each pregnancy the uterus does get thinner. Research it....but as another poster said, it does not matter because the repeat C-sections put her at greater risk for a rupture.
I truly believe Michelle has such a high success rate of full term births, because of her easy-going and loving personality. She doesn't carry around anger, resentment, jealousy, hatred, etc. She seems to always have joy, gratitude, and a loving heart, and that makes a BIG difference in your body and little ones you carry in it.
I also think menopause will be what puts a halt to her baby days...not a uterus giving out from wear and tear.
The cousin that suddenly appeared is named Amy Jordyn Duggar. She is trying to make a name for herself as a singer- Do you think she paid them to appear on the show and then name the baby after her? It is a big business just like the Gosselins.
Did anyone see them on the Today Show this am? They kept plugging their show tonight, and of course Jim Bob was holding up a copy of the book and pointing it out. It's all a little too "marketing-ish" for me.
Congrats to the Duggars! What a great family--Michelle is so sweet and Jim Bob seems to have a good sense of humor. They really seem to care for and love each other. I am inspired and encouraged each time I watch their show.
I wasn't too fond of the "marketing" done on the Today show. Plugging the show and holding the book *sigh* Reminded me of the Gosselins I guess. However, in the end, the Duggars are way more grounded in reality and I wish them the best. I am praying they stay that way! Sounds like her doctor has given her the go ahead to have more if she is able (based on what she said in this episode) so we'll have to see what happens!
I thought it was interesting how she mentioned several times that she might not be able to have more because of her age. She got pregnant pretty quickly this time around, though, if you think about it. Wasn't the last baby born in October of 2007? That would mean she conceived about six months later.
Jim Bob and Michelle has said time and time again that they will have as many children that the LORD will give them. It is not our place to say when she should stop. I just wish everyone had morals like them because this old world would be a nice place to be. I pray that God will continue to bless this family in life because they are awesome. Jordyn is one of my fav names and its NOT icky! I named my neice Jordan (girl). I like all the J names too. I really wish all the negative input would stop. oh well, imperfect world
It's fine if that's their belief (that God should direct the number of children they have), the thing is, it's not just about the physical ability to have the children. Are they emotionally investing in the kids the way children deserve? It's hard for me to believe that ANY parents would be capable of giving their eighteen children all the time and attention they really need. And it seems like from what they show that the older children are primarily responsible for the younger children, which doesn't seem right to me.
That said, yes, Michelle and Jim Bob seem like fine people and loving parents.
As long as the Duggers keep their message limited to, "Children are a blessing from the Lord", and "thriftiness is a Godly virtue", the world will continue to love them.
IMO, If someone has a problem with the Duggars not spending enough quality time with each child, they should examine the way our society raises most children. Most children are put into childcare centers at 6 weeks old. Then at 4 or 5 they go into public school, and possibly after school care until they are 12. Then they are left at home after school during their teenage years.
How many hours a day does the average family spend with their 1.8 children? Is the child getting individual attention from the public school teacher who has more children in her class than the Duggars? How about he childcare workers with 12 babies?
When the parents get home from work at 5:30, how much of their time is actually spent with the child? There is dinner to make, laundry, bathtime, and homework. Are most parents REALLY emotionally investing in their children?
The Duggars have ALL day to bond with 18 children. Even if an older child is tutoring them, Michelle still has to oversee that and make sure it gets done. I just can't grasp how someone could think that the Duggars don't know and emotionally care for each of their children as individuals.
You know I never thought of it that way. As a former day care teacher I can tell you that it is the truth. I had 6 two year olds by myself and I never got more than 5-10 min a day of one on one time with them.
I was never one to think harshly of the Duggers because I really like them. I am pregnant with my 4th child and if I can be half the mom to my 4 that Michelle is to her children I will be happy.
My family has some similarities to the Duggers as we home school and are conservative Christians but we are no where near as conservative as they are. I would love to raise my children with the values and morals that the Duggers have.
I totally agree with Anonymous from 1/2/09 at 8:13 AM. It's so true that many families do not have that much quality time with their kids. My husband and niece work at a large daycare and preschool and it's very common for young kids--infants!--to be dropped off before 7:00 in the morning and not be picked up until 6:00 at night. When you think that the parent has worked all day and now has to go home, cook dinner, possibly help older kids with schoolwork, and then put the kids to bed, how much time does that leave? When do these families see their kids--on weekends?! I know outside child care is necessary for many families, but look at the facts: way too many children are spending more hours a day with babysitters and teachers then they are with their own parents. I give Michelle a lot of credit for raising her kids within her own family.
I couldn't agree more with the post from "Anonymous 1/02/09 8:13 am". She/he said it so well. I work in an "after-school" program which cares for children, K-5, from our public school district. Most kids are there from morning school bell at 8:15 to 6:00 at night. We do all homework with these children, give them an afternoon snack, straighten out backpacks, clean out lunch boxes. And as much as we'd like to, unless there is a "situation" such as an argument or the like where we have to intervene, there is just not enough time or staff to give children individual attention. On Friday nights, there is a "Parents Night Out" program from 6:00 to 8:00, so many of the kids are there from 8:15 in the morning to 8:00 at night...nearly 12 hours! Most kids seem used to the routine...or get used to it eventually...but there are many that just can't handle that much activity and stimulation from morning to night and the meltdowns and exhaustion they experience is, at times, heartbreaking. Recently, we have begun to take those who need "down-time" into another area of the building, far away from the noise and commotion; it is quiet here and some actually fall asleep. This is not always possible, however, due to staff being out sick or more kids than usual some days. So, yes, I absolutely agree with the fact that these children spend all day in a classroom full of their peers with 1 adult/teacher present to meet all their needs, then they go to "after-care" with even more kids vying for the attention of 6 or 7 adults and by the time they do get home where they are part of a much smaller group, it is pretty much time to go to bed and get up and do it all over again the next day. It really is a shame that this is the way it has to be...out of necessity...for lots of today's families. It is really no wonder why parents and children are under so much stress these days and the use of anti-anxiety medication is so common.
Well said Mom of three! I would much rather be a Duggar child. Their life seems peaceful, and there seems to be lots of little places where they can go to be alone if they choose.
I wonder if the new baby has ever been put down yet? It seems like there are a lot of big girls who like to wear the baby in a sling.
If the children's emotional needs weren't being met, there would be a lot more acting out for attention. They seem happy and content most of the time.
I've never seen a Duggar child have a melt down like the twins of J&K+8. Wow, those two seem like they do need more attention. There is such a huge difference between how the two families parent, and how the children behave because of it.
I liked how excited the parents were when they announced that there would be Baby #18. They were as excited as if they were announcing Baby #1! I think that says it all.
Oh,well thanks to everyone who said they don't like the name Jordyn.*sarcasm*My name is Jordyn.Personally,I really like the name.I'm happy my mom chose Jordyn over Madison...
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I like the name. It's pretty :)
Third C-Section! I truly hope they don't get pregnant again even though they are already saying they want more. How much more can her body take?
Congrats to the Duggars on the arrival of their newest blessing, Jordyn-Grace.
Wouldn't it be nice if the Duggars just enjoyed this new baby for a good while before talking about number 19?
It WOULD be nice, but we know better, don't we?
Love the name...how pretty :)
They were bashing the Duggar's on the talk show "The Doctors", saying her uterus was going to fall out through her vagina, and no parent has a right to have that many kids because each kid needs individual attention...they were really mean.
On that note...I read their book and am even more inspired by them. They are a great family and deserve all the happiness they can get. If having tis many kids makes THEM happy, more power to em'. They are the complete 180 of the greedy-good-for-nothing-Gosselins.
mygod, her body must be a wreck. It aint normal.
I would like to see twins next time. Twins make 20. Now that would be a news story.
The family seems sweet and sincere - I don't think they are outright mean and exploitive (like a J&K type parenting situation).
I just think Michelle Duggar has a baby addiction. And just because her home's jurisdictions are clean and the girls make nice tater tot casseroles and save their first kisses for the altar doesn't mean the family is going to churn out healthy, functioning adults.
Big Josh is the first "adult" to leave the nest. He seems very responsible, albeit slightly naive. I suspect (and all signs are go) that his own family will reflect the way he was raised. But I have serious doubts that this hands off, sibling-driven, en-masse parenting is going to work with all 18 of their children.
Had to laugh at Jim Bob's comment that they would both like to have more.
Good grief, give the woman a rest already before you get her pregnant again.
It would be nice if they would enjoy this baby for a while instead of looking toward the next one. Never happen with these baby machines though
The uterus is a muscle, and using our muscles makes them stronger, so maybe her uterus is in better shape than the average persons?
I think the reason it is always mentioned in the birth announcement articles that they would both like to have more is--the journalist probably asks some snarky question, "Are you done?" "Michelle, aren't you tired of being pregnant?" et cetera. So they have to answer, "Well, we'd both like more," even though they probably weren't planning on saying that when they're talking about their brand new baby.
I agree the name is not a good one. There are lots of other "J" names for girls: Juliana, Julie, Josephine...Jordyn is just icky.
Anonymous said...
The uterus is a muscle, and using our muscles makes them stronger, so maybe her uterus is in better shape than the average persons?
Actually no....the uterus gets thinner each time it is stretched. It is an organ that is able have muscular contractions but not just a muscle. A heart contracts but is not a muscle. It is also an organ. Yes, the bigger a muscle gets, the stronger it is. However, like a uterus the larger a heart gets (cardiomegaly)the weaker it becomes.
Congratulations to the family.
Don't much care for the name, but oh well. Not my baby. :)
I hope Michelle and all of her children (as many as there will be) stay healthy and normal.
Um, actually the heart is also a muscle, made of cardiac muscle. Many organs are made of muscle. While I agree that the uterus stretches, I don't agree that it gets thinner after each baby. Like a balloon stretches and is thinner when it is blown up, it becomes thicker again when deflated. Michelle's uterus must be in good shape since she continues to carry babies to term. I think menopause will get her before her uterus gives up.
It may be a muscle, and we can all debate whether it gets thinner or thicker with each pregnancy....one thing I KNOW for certain is that after each C-section your uterous is more at risk for rupture because a scar makes it vulnerable....
Nice name. Congrats to them! I can't wait to see the show on Monday.
Um, actually the heart is also a muscle, made of cardiac muscle. Many organs are made of muscle.
Exactly, that is what I said. Our bodies are made of muscle also but we as a whole are not called a muscle. We are covered with skin which is the largest organ in the body but we are not called an organ. Anyway, yes with each pregnancy the uterus does get thinner. Research it....but as another poster said, it does not matter because the repeat C-sections put her at greater risk for a rupture.
I truly believe Michelle has such a high success rate of full term births, because of her easy-going and loving personality. She doesn't carry around anger, resentment, jealousy, hatred, etc. She seems to always have joy, gratitude, and a loving heart, and that makes a BIG difference in your body and little ones you carry in it.
I also think menopause will be what puts a halt to her baby days...not a uterus giving out from wear and tear.
"I agree the name is not a good one. There are lots of other "J" names for girls: Juliana, Julie, Josephine...Jordyn is just icky."
um, it's their baby. I guess they can name it whatever they want to.
The cousin that suddenly appeared
is named Amy Jordyn Duggar.
She is trying to make a name
for herself as a singer-
Do you think she paid them
to appear on the show and
then name the baby after her?
It is a big business just
like the Gosselins.
Did anyone see them on the Today Show this am? They kept plugging their show tonight, and of course Jim Bob was holding up a copy of the book and pointing it out. It's all a little too "marketing-ish" for me.
Congrats to the Duggars! What a great family--Michelle is so sweet and Jim Bob seems to have a good sense of humor. They really seem to care for and love each other. I am inspired and encouraged each time I watch their show.
I wasn't too fond of the "marketing" done on the Today show. Plugging the show and holding the book *sigh* Reminded me of the Gosselins I guess. However, in the end, the Duggars are way more grounded in reality and I wish them the best. I am praying they stay that way! Sounds like her doctor has given her the go ahead to have more if she is able (based on what she said in this episode) so we'll have to see what happens!
I thought it was interesting how she mentioned several times that she might not be able to have more because of her age. She got pregnant pretty quickly this time around, though, if you think about it. Wasn't the last baby born in October of 2007? That would mean she conceived about six months later.
Jim Bob and Michelle has said time and time again that they will have as many children that the LORD will give them. It is not our place to say when she should stop. I just wish everyone had morals like them because this old world would be a nice place to be. I pray that God will continue to bless this family in life because they are awesome. Jordyn is one of my fav names and its NOT icky! I named my neice Jordan (girl). I like all the J names too. I really wish all the negative input would stop. oh well, imperfect world
It's fine if that's their belief (that God should direct the number of children they have), the thing is, it's not just about the physical ability to have the children. Are they emotionally investing in the kids the way children deserve? It's hard for me to believe that ANY parents would be capable of giving their eighteen children all the time and attention they really need. And it seems like from what they show that the older children are primarily responsible for the younger children, which doesn't seem right to me.
That said, yes, Michelle and Jim Bob seem like fine people and loving parents.
As long as the Duggers keep their message limited to, "Children are a blessing from the Lord", and "thriftiness is a Godly virtue", the world will continue to love them.
IMO, If someone has a problem with the Duggars not spending enough quality time with each child, they should examine the way our society raises most children. Most children are put into childcare centers at 6 weeks old. Then at 4 or 5 they go into public school, and possibly after school care until they are 12. Then they are left at home after school during their teenage years.
How many hours a day does the average family spend with their 1.8 children? Is the child getting individual attention from the public school teacher who has more children in her class than the Duggars? How about he childcare workers with 12 babies?
When the parents get home from work at 5:30, how much of their time is actually spent with the child? There is dinner to make, laundry, bathtime, and homework. Are most parents REALLY emotionally investing in their children?
The Duggars have ALL day to bond with 18 children. Even if an older child is tutoring them, Michelle still has to oversee that and make sure it gets done.
I just can't grasp how someone could think that the Duggars don't know and emotionally care for each of their children as individuals.
You know I never thought of it that way. As a former day care teacher I can tell you that it is the truth. I had 6 two year olds by myself and I never got more than 5-10 min a day of one on one time with them.
I was never one to think harshly of the Duggers because I really like them. I am pregnant with my 4th child and if I can be half the mom to my 4 that Michelle is to her children I will be happy.
My family has some similarities to the Duggers as we home school and are conservative Christians but we are no where near as conservative as they are. I would love to raise my children with the values and morals that the Duggers have.
I totally agree with Anonymous from 1/2/09 at 8:13 AM. It's so true that many families do not have that much quality time with their kids. My husband and niece work at a large daycare and preschool and it's very common for young kids--infants!--to be dropped off before 7:00 in the morning and not be picked up until 6:00 at night. When you think that the parent has worked all day and now has to go home, cook dinner, possibly help older kids with schoolwork, and then put the kids to bed, how much time does that leave? When do these families see their kids--on weekends?! I know outside child care is necessary for many families, but look at the facts: way too many children are spending more hours a day with babysitters and teachers then they are with their own parents. I give Michelle a lot of credit for raising her kids within her own family.
I couldn't agree more with the post from "Anonymous 1/02/09 8:13 am". She/he said it so well. I work in an "after-school" program which cares for children, K-5, from our public school district. Most kids are there from morning school bell at 8:15 to 6:00 at night. We do all homework with these children, give them an afternoon snack, straighten out backpacks, clean out lunch boxes. And as much as we'd like to, unless there is a "situation" such as an argument or the like where we have to intervene, there is just not enough time or staff to give children individual attention. On Friday nights, there is a "Parents Night Out" program from 6:00 to 8:00, so many of the kids are there from 8:15 in the morning to 8:00 at night...nearly 12 hours! Most kids seem used to the routine...or get used to it eventually...but there are many that just can't handle that much activity and stimulation from morning to night and the meltdowns and exhaustion they experience is, at times, heartbreaking. Recently, we have begun to take those who need "down-time" into another area of the building, far away from the noise and commotion; it is quiet here and some actually fall asleep. This is not always possible, however, due to staff being out sick or more kids than usual some days. So, yes, I absolutely agree with the fact that these children spend all day in a classroom full of their peers with 1 adult/teacher present to meet all their needs, then they go to "after-care" with even more kids vying for the attention of 6 or 7 adults and by the time they do get home where they are part of a much smaller group, it is pretty much time to go to bed and get up and do it all over again the next day. It really is a shame that this is the way it has to be...out of necessity...for lots of today's families. It is really no wonder why parents and children are under so much stress these days and the use of anti-anxiety medication is so common.
Well said Mom of three! I would much rather be a Duggar child. Their life seems peaceful, and there seems to be lots of little places where they can go to be alone if they choose.
I wonder if the new baby has ever been put down yet? It seems like there are a lot of big girls who like to wear the baby in a sling.
If the children's emotional needs weren't being met, there would be a lot more acting out for attention. They seem happy and content most of the time.
I've never seen a Duggar child have a melt down like the twins of J&K+8. Wow, those two seem like they do need more attention. There is such a huge difference between how the two families parent, and how the children behave because of it.
I liked how excited the parents were when they announced that there would be Baby #18. They were as excited as if they were announcing Baby #1! I think that says it all.
Oh,well thanks to everyone who said they don't like the name Jordyn.*sarcasm*My name is Jordyn.Personally,I really like the name.I'm happy my mom chose Jordyn over Madison...
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