We, as Christians, are no longer under the Old Covenant Law, the Law of Moses, but under the commands that Jesus gives us in the New Testament. However, this is one place where these denominational groups go back to the Old Covenant Law and require people to follow the Old Covenant Law.This myth is based on Deuteronomy 22:5 and an incorrect translation that women are not to wear men's clothing. The word "man" in that verse is the Hebrew word for warrior. The Hebrew word translated "pertaineth" actually means "apparatus, armor, artillery, etc". The verse is prohibiting women from being part of the army and prohibiting a warrior from disguising himself as a woman.
It is amazing that the myth that Christian men and women should wear distinctive clothing styles has persisted because in Bible times it was not practiced that way. In both the Old Testament and the New Testament times, the men and the women wore very similar clothing styles. Even if this command in the Old Testament was prohibiting women from wearing men's clothing, it would no longer apply to us as Christians because we are no longer under the Old Testament Law. That command in Deuteronomy 22:5 was not restated in the New Testament. In the New Testament, neither Christian men nor Christian women are to be part of the military.
Interesting Discussion Point
While looking for something else this morning, I found this gem. It doesn't exactly match my belief system but I thought since it directly contradicts Gothard it would be interesting. It's part of a headcovering discussion, so why if Gothard doesn't allow women to wear pants (Old Covenant) does he not require head coverings which are mentioned in the New Testament?
New Visitors
We have some new readers! Welcome. We have some rules here. What a shock, I know!
First, please select a screen name and try to use the same one consistently so people can get to know you. Also we don't address individuals much less call someone out, try to engage in debate with a person, or incite a fight. If there is a comment you specifically want to address, quote the comment not the person's name. Finally, we use close to standard English. I'll let a comment through that is missing one or two capitol letters or may correct them, but comments with multiple errors, shortened names for people (JB for Jim Bob), or especially deliberately written in all lower case will be destined for the trash bin.
There is a reason for the no addressing individuals. I've been on some boards and I visit one now, where this is allowed and it always ends in nastiness with some individuals and that makes my skin crawl. I really don't like it when a reader or readers try to set people up to debate with them, are deliberately obtuse, or are crass just to rise out of people.
First, please select a screen name and try to use the same one consistently so people can get to know you. Also we don't address individuals much less call someone out, try to engage in debate with a person, or incite a fight. If there is a comment you specifically want to address, quote the comment not the person's name. Finally, we use close to standard English. I'll let a comment through that is missing one or two capitol letters or may correct them, but comments with multiple errors, shortened names for people (JB for Jim Bob), or especially deliberately written in all lower case will be destined for the trash bin.
There is a reason for the no addressing individuals. I've been on some boards and I visit one now, where this is allowed and it always ends in nastiness with some individuals and that makes my skin crawl. I really don't like it when a reader or readers try to set people up to debate with them, are deliberately obtuse, or are crass just to rise out of people.
Tuesday, March 27, A Duggar Loss
After announcing they're expecting baby number 20, Michelle and Jim Bob go to what should be an exciting ultrasound appointment to learn the baby's gender. But when a heartbeat can't be detected, how will the family deal with this devastating tragedy?
60 minutes
60 minutes
Tuesday, March 20, Boys Day Out
It's a fun day out for the Duggar boys! Watch as Jim Bob takes his sons to Fort Rock, AR for a father/son campout. But before they leave, Joy Anna has a special treat in store for the boys -- that is, if she doesn't burn them first.
30 minutes
30 minutes
Tuesday, March 13, Bates Family Special, 10:00 PM
The Bates Family (wt) introduces us to an amazing family of 21, living a simple, music-filled life in the picturesque hills of Tennessee. In this special, we meet the family, learn of their business, and witness the joy as they welcome their 19th child.
60 minutes
Bates family on Good Morning America
60 minutes
Bates family on Good Morning America
The Bates Family Series
Just announced this week.
Bates family statement on their blog.
Promo on ET website.
We'll put up posts for their episodes here as there are so many similarities that a new blog would be redundant.
Bates family statement on their blog.
Promo on ET website.
We'll put up posts for their episodes here as there are so many similarities that a new blog would be redundant.
Tuesday, March 13, Swerve & Serve
The Duggars are on the road again and in more ways than one! Watch as they head to Little Rock where they meet up with old friends and volunteer at a fish fry. And Michelle helps celebrate Joy Anna's 14th birthday with her first driving lesson.
30 minutes
30 minutes
Excellent example of "boards and boards" and why it isn't allowed.
Yes. And once my daughter said she wanted to drive a bulldozer for a living, but I haven't held her to that. How many kids say they want to be president, etc, and don't follow through with it?? Those poor Duggars. Apparently the audience must hang on to and remember every.single.word that they say and beat it into the ground years and years and years later. I bet John David wishes he'd never opened his mouth. I swear, if I hear "ONE time, John David said he wants to be a pilot," or "ONE time Josh said he wants to be a lawyer" one more time on this board I may blow a gasket! Because God knows, all of the posters have ALWAYS done every single thing they declared they wanted to do when they were 15 years old. GEEsh!
Tuesday, March 6, Duggars in Space
The Duggars are out of this world! Jim Bob and the kids are going where no Duggars have gone before... Space Camp. The family tests their strength and skills in several astronaut training events, including a multi-axis trainer and flight simulator.
30 minutes
30 minutes
Free Discussion March 2012
Please use this for Duggar sightings, speculation, or general discussion. Note that this is Duggar discussion not other families, TV shows, politics, religion, or personal stories. If the comment is more about you or some other issue than the actual Duggars, please rethink before sending. Thank you!
Please remember anonymous is NOT an acceptable name
This morning almost half the comments are from "anonymous." I doubt that they are all from the same person. You do not have to log in, but please choose at least the "name/url" option and put in the screen name of your choice. No URL is required. I'll possibly add names to some of the comments and let them through depending on how I feel and if the comment adds anything to the conversation.
Also comments made for purely or mainly political reasons, are not needed or welcome. The purpose of this blog is definitely not politics.
Also comments made for purely or mainly political reasons, are not needed or welcome. The purpose of this blog is definitely not politics.
Tuesday, February 28, The Duggar Twist, 9:30 PM
The Duggars are back to doing what the Duggars do best, serving others! In this episode, the family visits a pretzel shop and helps raise money for Alex's Lemonade Stand Foundation, an organization aimed at fighting childhood cancer.
30 minutes
30 minutes
Tuesday, February 28, Music with the Duggars, 9 PM
The Duggars are heading to Branson, MO for a speaking engagement and musical performance. We'll also catch up with Cousin Amy and learn more about her budding music career. And later, everyone is in the audience when Cousin Amy performs live onstage!
30 minutes
30 minutes
Anderson, Friday, February 24
Last week a promo on Anderson implied that the Duggars would be on this week. Today they showed up on the guide for Friday's show. In the promo, Anderson was asking about miscarriage.
(Not the 360 show, this is the afternoon talk show.)
(Not the 360 show, this is the afternoon talk show.)
Tuesday, February 21, 9:30 PM, 40 Kids, Oh My!
It's rare to find a family as big as the Duggars! Watch two big families collide when the Vanderhoffs visit the Duggars. And while Jim Bob is home playing host, Michelle hits the road to visit her best friend of 39 years and speaks at a Moms' Meeting.
(30 minutes)
(30 minutes)
Tuesday, February 21, 9:00 PM, Josh & Anna Check-In
It's a special milestone for Mackynzie as she gets her very first haircut! Will she be able to sit still or will it be a hair-raising experience for all? Meanwhile, Josh and Anna give us the latest updates on their car lot and baby Michael!
(30 minutes)
(30 minutes)
Today Show, February 14
Just checked my guide. You can pencil them in for Tuesday. Their usual spot is around 8:15 eastern.
Kelly Bates is pregnant
Yes, she announced it on their blog even though they found the last pregnancy had ended at 10 weeks. Both Kelly and Michelle will turn 45 in a few months if I calculated correctly.
Unconfirmed report that Kelly had the baby yesterday.
Unconfirmed report that Kelly had the baby yesterday.
Tuesday, February 14, 9 PM, Season 6, Episode 1
The Duggars are back! Watch as the family adds new life, planting trees, visits a cornmaze, and hits the speaking circuit. Later, an emotional moment occurs when Michelle and Jim Bob go in for a routine pregnancy check-up.
Free Discussion February 2012
Please use this for Duggar sightings, speculation, or general discussion. Note that this is Duggar discussion not other families, TV shows, politics, religion, or personal stories. If the comment is more about you or some other issue than the actual Duggars, please rethink before sending. Thank you!
January 2012 part 2
Please use this if you can't see the comments over 200 on the original thread. It seems to work for some people and not others.
Have Your Thoughts and Feelings About the Duggars Changed?
Reality TV seems to both change people and as the viewers' familiarity with the families grows many peoples' perceptions seem to change over time. Have your perceptions of the Duggars changed and do you think it's due to the Duggars themselves changing or becoming more and more aware of who the Duggars really are or a combination of both?
Free Debate
With the show in hiatus, I read something this morning that may lead to discussion related to the Duggars.
For there are two things inside me, competing with the human self which I must try to become. They are the Animal self, and the Diabolical self. The Diabolical self is the worse of the two. That is why a cold, self righteous prig who goes regularly to church may be far nearer to hell than a prostitute. But, of course, it is better to be neither.
C. S. Lewis
Anyone Interested
This morning no1 calculated the calories per serving of Chicken-Etti. 666 calories per serving. Are there any hardy souls willing to calculate the calories, fat, and sodium of any other Duggar dishes?
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