Free Discussion, April, 2021

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103 comments:

Anonymous said...

Jim and Michelle seem not to know much about their children. In the Easter episode, shown on TLC channel, Jim and Michelle asked their adult children when the children came to know the lord. These children are in their mid to late 20's and older!
Oh well, I enjoy seeing this family on their shows.

Anonymous said...

Is there a photo of Jed moving the twin beds out?

Poohbear717 said...

I knew the Lord for years before get baptized in a church. In most cases it’s vastly different dates. I know 5 year olds that can quote scripture. But they have not been baptized.

Z said...

So the twin Duggar boys are moving from the house their Dad provided & returning to the Duggar compound, the boys bedroom & bunk beds? So the twin boys moving out was just a political ruse to garner votes? Well that ploy was a lost cause.

Leia said...

If & when the Duggar’s return to TLC will viewers continue to be subjected to the same old boring episodes? So tired of the main focus as continual pregnancies & the reaction of the Duggar parents screaming in delight as if their kids had never had children of their own. It seems very contrived & insincere.

June said...

Now that Jessa is expecting child #4 will Ben & Jessa finally move into a large home? It’s not healthy for their growing kids to share a bedroom. Currently they live in a 2 bedroom home. I’m sure that Daddy Duggar could move the Seewald’s into a much larger home.

Anonymous said...

A small house can be a good way to save money. Maybe after 7 or 8 babies they will have saved enough to buy something bigger. Ivy can raise the littlest ones while Jessa works outside the home to supplement Ben’s salary. It’ll all work out. The Duggars are kind and resourceful.

Kate said...

Yes Daddy Duggar can move the Seewald’s into a much larger home. Not to defend them but many of us grew up in small homes with relatively large families. There were six kids very close in age and our parents and we lived in a trailer that was 10’ wide by 55’ long with two tiny bedrooms and one tiny bathroom. Our kitchen only had room for six chairs do two of us had to “wait” every evening for dinner. We survived and even thrived because we had to but the Duggar’s can afford larger homes for their growing families.

sandi said...

Z,Jed just got married.Idk where Jer is staying now

June said...

Re a small house. I still believe it’s healthier that girls have their own room & boys have theirs. I grew up in a home with 3 siblings. My sisters & I shared a large bedroom & my brother his own room. It was a healthy experience.

Sparkey said...

The Duggar’s now have 10 kids that are married.

sandi said...


Jb could help Ben and Jessa build an addition to the house.At least another bedroom,so they wouldn't have to move

Kate said...

Does anyone know if Jill and Derrick went to Jed’s wedding?

Linda said...

Jed and Jer moved out of the rental when the election was over. It's doubtful they really lived there full time. In fact the house has since been sold.

Mickey2942 said...

Probably back in his bedroom at the compound. Pa Duggar is lining up a gal for him. Must have courtships, weddings, pregnancies, on demand for the show.

Mickey2942 said...

Probably not. After all, TLC filming is the priority in the family. Josh was probably lurking in the corners, out of view.

Renna said...

Jed’s new wife Katey is very pretty. She’s from a family of 13 kids & she’s the eldest. She was early educated at a public school but her Dad decided to begin home schooling. Her parents are divorced.

Leia said...

Well not surprised after the election Jed &
Jer moved out of the rental house. The fact they moved into that house was just another Daddy Duggar ploy to garner votes for his kid.

zebra crossing said...

So...the Dillards did attend Justin's and Jed's weddings. I am wondering if cousin Amy, her husband and/or Aunt Deanna attended. It seems there is another split in the family.

Anonymous said...

Some folks wonder if Katey is the oldest of 13, then who will raise her siblings now that she's gone?

Aunt Bea said...

Anon; 4/11/4:23PM.....Here's a new idea.. maybe their MOTHER should raise her own children!

Anonymous said...

Shocked that Zach Bates left being a cop for the family business. Wonder why?

Willow said...

I am pretty sure Jed Duggar's new wife, Katey Nakatsu, is from a family of only two or three. She has a sister and a half-brother, from what I have read. I believe the family of 13 children might be the Keyes family. Evelyn Keyes is Nathan Bates' girlfriend. She is somewhere in the middle of her family.

Willow said...

Yes Aunt Bea! What a concept! :)

Mickey2942 said...

https://people.com/tv/jed-duggar-shares-kiss-with-wife-katey-nakatsu-during-romantic-honeymoon/

They are a cute couple. Maybe Jed will get away from the Duggarville. I don't see this gal as wanting to shop at Goodwill, wear flip flops, and get pregnant every year.

June said...

Sandi yes an additional
bedroom to the Seewald house is a practical option also an additional
bathroom would be good as well.

Lauren said...

https://www.instagram.com/p/COBy2TFsoK0/

Anna and Josh did it again. No. 7 (Girl) is coming

Ginny said...

I just saw that Anna is pregnant with number 7.

Mickey2942 said...

https://www.eonline.com/news/1262221/anna-and-josh-duggar-are-expecting-baby-no-7

Sure, your husband is unemployed, you live in a garage, but having a new baby will solve everything. Congratulations Anna!

Not a Mocker said...

Oh. Wow. Such shock /s. Anna is pregnant with m’baby 7

Mia said...

Looks like JB will be supporting Josh's and Jessa's families forever. I guess that is why Jessa's in a too-small house while Josh's bunch lives in that temporary housing situation. Looks like Josh and Ben could figure out what Jim Bob is hinting at. I don't understand how even Anna can justify all these pregnancies knowing her FIL is the one footing her bills.

Mickey2942 said...

Anna just thinks that the Lord will provide. Actually, correction, she does not "think". Her "headship" does that for her. She just has babies, teaches her daughters to cook, do laundry, and take care of their assigned siblings. Anna is doing exactly what a good ILB wife does. She obediently serves her husband and does her Christian duty.

Aunt Bea said...

Anna needs to just come clean and say exactly what Josh "does" for a living to provide for her and HER growing family. This silence only leads to more and more speculation that it is her father-in-law who actually provides. How this silly woman could continue to have children with her much-troubled husband is beyond belief.

Z said...

So Anna is expecting baby #7 no surprise! Anna is a Stepford wife. Anna does not think for herself from birth she’s been conditioned to believe men are superior to women. Anna has embraced the doormat syndrome. Unfortunately she’s teaching her daughters to follow this pathetic path. Josh is a lazy pig who is incapable of financially providing for his family. Living on the Duggar compound in that warehouse is not a healthy environment for Josh & Anna’s kids. Both need to wake up & develop a backbone.

Renna said...

Each time Anna becomes pregnant she appears to age. Although Anna is still young she appears to look as though she’s in her 40’s. Josh has gained a lot of weight he too appears older than he is. Living in that warehouse is not healthy for Josh & Anna’s family. Disgusting!

Laney said...

Clearly Anna is the poster.child as one who drank the Duggar Koolaid & enjoyed the process.

Lauren said...

Josh Duggar arrested!

https://www.tmz.com/2021/04/29/josh-duggar-arrested-in-arkansas-feds/

Kathy said...

Josh has been arrested. Finally.

Mia said...

Josh has been arrested and placed on a federal hold. No other details yet.

Shannon said...

Good ole Joshie has been arrested!! Can't wait to hear the federal charges!

Laura C said...

Josh has been arrested:

https://people.com/tv/josh-duggar-arrested-being-held-in-jail-in-arkansas/

Sandy said...

Oh Josh, what have you done now?

Ann said...

Came straight here after hearing the news about Josh!

Mickey2942 said...

https://www.nwahomepage.com/northwest-arkansas-news/josh-duggar-arrested-placed-on-a-federal-hold/

Whoa! No information yet on charges. And the saga continues...

Mickey2942 said...

https://people.com/tv/josh-duggar-arrested-being-held-in-jail-in-arkansas/

Now, this is interesting, "No Bond". So, within 72 hours he will have a hearing with a judge, to determine if he can be released or held. At that time, we should be able to get the federal charges pending against Josh Duggar.

Well, Anna definitely doesn't have a predictable, boring life with Josh.

Mickey2942 said...

https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/josh-duggar-arrested-arkansas

Good grief! What a bum Josh Duggar looks like in his mugshot! Unshaven, messy hair, t-shirt. Geez. He has really embraced being an unemployed bum!

Not a Mocker said...

Aaaaaaaaaaand Josh is arrested. Are we surprised? No. No we are not.

Mickey2942 said...

https://www.thehollywoodgossip.com/2020/09/anna-duggar-enters-damage-control-mode-yes-we-live-in-a-storage/

Kool-aid? Yes. Definitely.

Michelle said...

Oh.My.Word. Just saw Josh has been arrested.

Erin said...

With all this coming out about Josh I feel sorry for those precious, innocent children. Imagine in a few years , when they are on their own and can have total access to the internet. They will know what all happened, plus the ugly things said about their family. How horrible to see that. I will pray for the kids and Anna.

lucy said...

anyone wonder what josh was arrestted for? I think he takes after the father instead Jim getting caught the son got caught.

Tammy said...

Josh Duggar arrested and is in federal custody !

https://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/celebrity/josh-duggar-arrested-by-federal-agents-in-arkansas/ar-BB1gcjYO?li=BBnbfcL

Tammy said...

Oh I am so grossed out. Ewww my stomach is literally a little upset now.

I used to be addicted to the 19 Kids and Counting show / Duggars, UNTIL the whole Josh story came out ... what about 7 years ago ??? At that time (or actually halfway through the Jill wedding episode, I was about done then) I was DONE. For that matter, done with TLC as well, TLC was ANYTHING but The Learning Channel by then; I just watched TLC to watch the Duggars. During the VERY FIRST Duggar show ... the VERY FIRST ONE, the molestation of his sisters had already happened come to find out !! I was not going to be ANY PART of that family (ie Jim Duggar and Michelle) making one more cent. I read I guess on the internet/news or something that the show had been cancelled. I was thrilled. Get the camera out of all of children's faces after so many years and let them grow up normally (not that they would be brought up "normally" anyway, huh?) !

Now I read there has been a spin off show that's been going on for years ? I had no idea !

Enough .. please enough of the Duggars !! The only way that will happen if NO ONE WATCHES !!

Sorry for the rant.

Tammy

Ewwww. Just GROSS. What he has been taken into federal custody for ?? Makes me feel sick just imagining.

O M G and he and Anna are about to have their 7th child ???? Oh, I am outta here.



Tammy said...

OK, I am back (sorry). I PROMISE this will be it. I won't make any more comments.

I can only guess what he was arrested for this time. Just a wild guess and that is computer searching (I shudder to think and say here) and things saved on his computer ?????

Gail Howard said...

How about Josh getting arrested without bail? It never ends for them.

Natasha said...

So who is going to diligently work to provide for the family now that Josh is in jail?

Leia said...

Yeah! Creepy Josh Duggar arrested & NO bond! Oh my what will Daddy Duggar do? JB no power over Federal Agents. JB deal with it!

Sharla said...

Looks like bond hearing and trial date set.

If he gets bond, will have to live with third party and not to have contact alone with minors.

Not good at all.

Z said...

Just read Josh Duggar arraigned on 2 counts of child pornography. Josh poor kids I wonder if finally Arkansas authorities or CPS will intervene?

MzOpinion8d said...

18 years this disgusting man has been allowed access to children due to JimBob and Michelle’s cover ups. I’m sick.

Michelle said...

Yep, not looking good. His attorney didn't want charges read aloud and judge said if Josh makes bail he has to be in a home without minors.

We can all figure what that means...

Liz said...

And yet Jimslob and Michelle are doing a morality talk at Big Sandy. Raised a pedophile, enabled him. Treated daughters like they are worthless. Jessa with anti semitic language, Jeremy anti Catholic. Why TLC? These are not Christian's they are hateful!

elisa said...

With all due respect, and just my opinion...pray for the kids...absolutely. Anna... no way. She had her chance to get out and divorce this idiot but she stayed with the loser. I have absolutely NO compassion of sympathy for her. Grow a backbone and get yourself and your kids out of that situation. Plenty of people have done it

Anonymous said...

So according to several news outlets, Joshie was charged with receiving and possessing child pornography. Disgusting perv. If Anna doesn’t leave him now, then she’s just as pathetic as he is.

Renna said...

Why Daddy Duggar of course. After all Josh is the golden child right? Duh!

Mickey2942 said...

Eye roll. I guess Anna better get her CDL, she could drive a truck, that is good pay. Unless JB is going to support her and her kids.

Believe me, if she applied for welfare assistance, a caseworker would be on her every day regarding job search.

rachel craig said...

Anna needs to go live with her brother who offered, but that was several kids ago so maybe that offer is off the table. Josh is hopeless.

sandi said...

I wish Anna's family would step in and get her and the kids out of there,but I wouldn't count on it.Jmo

sandi said...

I hope Tlc cancels the show,once and for all

Ginny said...

Re:Erin's comment that she will pray for Anna & the children. I will also pray for those poor innocent children. They have had no control over how their parents are raising them. But when it comes to Anna, that's another story. All of the Duggars including Anna, have insisted that Anna knew all about Josh & his molesting young girls, before she married Josh, yet she went ahead & married him. I don't care what type of environment she was raised in, she is a full grown woman & should care more about her children's welfare. She continues to produced child after child to be raised by a Pedophile. They live in a warehouse. Does anybody really know where or how they get their living expenses? If Jim Bob is the sole support of that family, soon to have 7 children, that's a disgrace on both Josh & Anna as parents. Just look around & see how many single mothers are doing extremely difficult jobs raising their children, by working 2 or 3 jobs, rather than putting up with a husband like Josh. How long is it since he's worked at a substantial job? All their prayers won't help those children when their lungs are full of mold & dust from living in that warehouse. Some of them are still babies. Yes the children need prayers for their health, their education,& all the other needs of little children. Put the Bible away & get jobs.

Patrice said...

I can't help but think maybe if he had gotten REAL counseling back when the first scandal broke (sister molestation), and then the second (Ashley Madison debacle), and maybe had some jail or prison time, maybe this would not have happened. Despite the Duggars' best intentions, one cannot pray perversity out of someone else. He is sick,and should have gotten professional help and been not allowed to live with minors back then.
And if the cult wasn't so man-adoring and woman-hating, poor Anna could have gotten a divorce, taken the children she had then, and moved on. IF he gets the full twenty years, which I hope he does, she will be raising the seven children of a pervert, with no job skills, and probably no household management skills either. Does she have an income, a bank account, knowledge of how to manage money? What a mess.
I hope she can go to her two normal jeans-wearing siblings and start a new mainstream life.

Judy said...

I assume by now that everyone has seen the news that he was arrested for downloading child porn on the computer in 2019. Why did the feds not get to this until now?

He is a sick man but because of his crazy religion, he's not able to get help for it. They just make them pray harder and do physical labor and then it's all fine again. I assume Anna will stand by him and the Duggars will support her financially until Josh is let out of prison in several years at the earliest. How does she explain this to seven children?

Sharla said...

Josh's behavior is execrable, but please no profanity. Thanks.

Anonymous said...

This will end ok. Josh can do probation in the warehouse while the rest of his family moves into the big house. They might even be able to get government assistance. Anna’s help running the household and supervising the kids will be welcome. And the kids will have fun. A plus would be if the kids could go to public school. But even if that does not happen, the kids will grow up OK. And Josh can have supervised visits with the kids as often as possible. If he is convicted they should tell the kids now what he did. If they grow up with that knowledge it won’t be such a shock if they should find out when they are older. In a way this is all very timely because the kids need to be moving out of that warehouse anyway and they are the family that naturally should take over the big house. Josh can do yardwork and major projects around the property to earn his keep, and maybe even be paid by Jim Bob. Yes Josh did some bad things, but for the sake of the children they need to work this out in the best way possible. And Anna must take steps to ensure that she never never ever has any more kids. She can rationalize this by truly believing that God would approve. She could continue a relationship with her husband, but maybe get secretly divorced. This would ensure some more government assistance possibly.

Plaidchick said...

Enjoy jail, Josh. You'll get back what you did to your family. I guarentee you he comtinued on in the sex trafficking world, and they all know it. JB is a pedophile too. They're all protecting the ring leader.

Mommy in PA said...

So Josh is arrested on child porn charges and even if they allow bail he won't be allowed near minors. Hopefully he gets the full 20 years sentence and his kids can grow up safely away from him. Anna really needs to open her eyes and get a divorce and move on from him and his creepy ways.

Mickey2942 said...

Heck no, this will probably increase the ratings. Josh is ratings gold!

Mickey2942 said...

How can her family expect her to "stand by her man" when he is going down for child porn? That is beyond.

That gal, I felt badly for her before, but this...there isn't enough prayer to fix this.

Saddened By It All said...

I know a lot of people feel sorrow for the six small Duggar children but absolutely none for Anna as she is an adult. Sadly she was raised in this cult culture to be a doormat for her husband and to never leave him no matter what. I doubt she had the critical thinking skills or self esteem to realize that it was okay to leave the pedophile slime all that she ended up with in an arranged marriage. Basically she was the sacrificial lamb years ago. She needs serious intervention and reprogramming along with therapy. I also feel bad for his sisters who were abused by him because this brings it back one more time. Just my thoughts as an incest survivor myself from my older brother.

Colen said...

If she applied for welfare she might have to put her kids in public school and get a job, so she won’t. I hope she takes her brother up on his past offer to help her.

roddma said...

Since I'm not very religious I wish the best for the kids but agree about Anna. No best wishes for her except a healthy baby.


"All of the Duggars including Anna, have insisted that Anna knew all about Josh & his molesting young girls, before she married Josh, yet she went ahead & married him."

Even if Anna knew what Josh did, she likely had no choice. These marriages are almost arranged. Then it seemed Anna wanted to fulfill her only allowed rile. I feel sorry for the 20 yr old naïve Anna but not the 32 yr old Anna.

She has seen more of the world and had siblings leave ATI. Now if they'd only go after ATI, which is the whole brain child of this. Yes looking at you Gil Bates who was named in a lawsuit and got the victims to drop charges.

roddma said...

"Why did the feds not get to this until now?"

Federal investigations take time because they want their Ts crossed and Is dotted. Plus the pandemic started shortly after.

Ridiculous said...

Re: Anonymous comments. Why should Josh get probation? He is simply repeating the same behavior over again. He's a criminal. Why should the tax payers pay for government assistance? I've been asking for years why hasn't Child Protective Services stepped in & kept a close eye on the entire Duggar clan. I wonder about the young children residing in the Duggar compound. As far as I'm concerned the apple doesn't fall far from the tree. The Duggars are always saying God will take care of them. I was taught God helps those who help themselves.

Plaidchick said...

JB can't save him from federal prison. If you read between the lines, it sounds like undercover agents gave him porn and he provided porn to some sort of group in return. That is why I firmly believe he was involved in sex trafficking because homeland security is on the case. This isn't some bored idiot watching porn on TV in the basement. He is attracted to girls who are pre-pubuirty. I believed he was groomed by his father possibly molesting him and his sisters. Given his record, there is no way he will be get probation.

Jani said...

I don't understand Anonymous comment about this will all end ok. Josh can have supervised visits as often as possible & perhaps they can have government assistance. He didn't steal a candy bar he's a Pedophile. Those kids will not grow up ok under those circumstances. Just what entitles Josh to take over the big house?That should not be because he's the oldest, it should be whoever lives a good life, raises their children correctly & treats his wife like she's a human being not a slave. Saying Josh did some bad things is just another slap on his wrist. It will never correct the behavior of Josh. This should have ben handled a long time ago before the statue of limitations ran out & Jim Bob & Michelle were forced to get Josh real professional help not some "work" helping some friend of the family out on his farm or doing construction work.

Mickey2942 said...

I cynically wonder if Josh knew this was coming soon, and Anna being pregnant is to get sympathy going for bail and light sentence. Although, if he can't be around children, that means he won't be able to live at his home. Anna could lose her children if she doesn't follow court orders.

Generally, when someone is charged with a federal crime, there is evidence, and prison. There is not the same wriggle room as there is with state charges. Josh Duggar is in a heap of trouble.

Daddysgirl said...

I hope she goes to live with her brother and has a lightbulb moment. Reality tells me she’ll ‘stand by her man’ and the kids can trail behind. I just hope to god nothings happened to any of those kids. We’re not getting much news about this in my part of the world. My good wishes are for those wee kids only!

Laney said...

Josh has always projected an image of superiority although it’s delusional behavior. Now that he’s finally going to answer for his nefarious behavior I am curious if he will continue to believe & behave as if he’s above it all? Josh is really creepy. Will Anna finally wake up from the long fog?

June said...

Clearly the Duggars specifically the Duggar parents when on TV always touting about their cult faith & Christianity. I’ve never been convinced of this behavior. It’s an act & a poor one at that. Their hidden agenda specifically meaning JB has & will always be about the $$$. Pouring God on everything will not resolve the issue with Josh. JB does not have the clout to go one on one with the Feds. I am sure they’ve hired lawyers however this time the situation has escalated & no construction worker had the means or power to help Josh. Karma is always around.

Z said...

Would definitely support Fed going after ATI & also that nasty Gothard.

Lyle said...

From what I’ve read Jill & Derick, Jinger & Jeremy clearly see the forest for the trees & have stated they are in support of protecting children & against abuse of children.

Sparkey said...

Just don’t agree. Anna needs to take some accountability not one to sweep something this serious under the rug. The Feds are involved & this is a serious crime. Anna needs to get her head out of the clouds & live in a real world. Stop using God as an excuse.

Lilly said...

Knowing the Duggars with Anna expecting #7 they will put aside Josh horrible behavior & plan yet another boring gender reveal. Geez just really sick!

Cam said...

Josh learned this sick & disturbing behavior at the knee of his Dad.

Chris said...

Josh sitting in a jail cell wonder if he’s singing the loyalty song he sang at his wedding?

Clancie said...

Mickey I doubt Josh knew this situation of getting caught was coming. Josh does not think in the way most people who are not in a Cult think. He’s probably convinced himself that he is the victim & was targeted. Josh is too self absorbed to think otherwise. JMO.

Aiden said...

The Duggars have always been impressed with their ignorance.

Jamie said...

The Pest is Arrested what a great Day!

Laural said...

Seriously JB & M are speaking at
Big Sandi & doing a talk on morality. That’s hypocrite behavior. They are such a Joke! Again they embrace delusional behavior.


Elyse said...

While Josh sits in jail perhaps a member of his family will deliver tater tot casserole to him. Haha!

Elle said...

Curious as to the opinion of snotty Jessa re her brother Josh arrest? What words of pseudo wisdom will Jessa impart?

Marites H. said...

Cue the Tammy Wynette music. Anna, if you love him, you'll forgive him. I think this is the 3rd time Anna's been pregnant since Josh came back from "treatment". She's been trained to be a good brainless Stepford wife and get pregnant as often as possible. She more focused on trying to keep him happy than making sure those 6 children (especially the girls) are in a safe, healthy environment.

Mickey2942 said...

Government assistance? Why not a job? And seriously, who would want to voluntarily live with their in-laws forever?

Josh should get an actual job to support his family. Felons, even with the worst charges can obtain employment.