Free Discussion, January, 2020

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105 comments:

Ellie On a Roll said...

We are officially on baby watch for the aviation baby! Little Delta Dawn, Amelia, Skye, Arielle, Hangeretta, Flyte, Piper or whatever unique name they give, I just hope she’s born in a professional, accredited medical facility.

Tana said...

So now Derick thinks TLC should give the kids their own show: https://www.intouchweekly.com/posts/derick-dillard-says-tlc-should-give-the-duggar-kids-their-own-show/

Tana said...

Jessa looks so much cuter in a shorter skirt instead of dragging around looking so old fashioned in the ugly skirts and hideous leggings sticking out from under the skirt.
https://okmagazine.com/photos/jinger-jessa-duggar-los-angeles-visit-instagram/

Mia said...

Just a random observation to get us started in 2020. Has anyone noticed how much Michelle Duggar holds Josie? She always has, although none of the other children were ever allowed that privilege. It seems that Josie, because of her health problems, was the only child Michelle ever truly enjoyed. Never had time to enjoy any of the others.

Ah, well. I'm sure the second generation of housemaids is going strong at the compound. I just wonder what Jill's buddy group thinks about her not being allowed to come in the house.

Willow said...

I agree Mia. Jill seemed the one who was the closest to her buddy group. I haven't even seen her post about seeing Joy in just ages. I hope she is not being kept from them.

Tana said...

Joy-anna's and Austin's little boy is absolutely adorable: https://www.instagram.com/p/B63dBJIJD2t/

Tana said...

Jill may not get to be close to Joy anymore but Joy seems close to her younger sisters: https://www.instagram.com/p/B6EGSIPJrqf/

Tana said...

There was speculation that when Derick was working at Walmart and left after a short time that it was because he took off way too much time to go be with the Duggars as they went around filming.

JB seems to have almost forced Derick to have that mouth work done and that has to have been torture and would make it hard to work. Do you think Walmart let him go? If so, if that looks bad on his resume, maybe that is why he is upset with JB.

Then JB seems to have led Derick to believe that he HAD to be there to film "for the ministry" and maybe he lost his job over that. If he is filming because JB insisted and he lost his livelihood....yet JB is not helping them out, then I could certainly see why Derick is upset with JB.

Give me a break said...

Ugh, that smug Jessa. So she watched a few videos on cutting hair and now she’s a YouTube sensation?? Give me a freakin break. To be honest, she cuts little Spurgeon’s hair so strange he looks very feminine. And I couldn’t even tell the difference in the after picture. Jessa is so full of herself. Anything to stay in the spotlight and relevant. Just go away, Jessa. And I hope your show gets canceled

sandi said...

It makes me sick that Michelle was spouting off bible verses beside Jb in Jessa's Christmas vid,when Jb has shunned Derick and Jill.WWJD? Jesus wouldn't turn anyone away,He'd say,"All are welcome".

Sparkey said...

Jim Bob & Michelle clearly hypocrites.

Sue said...

Spurgeon is to Jessa as Nurie is to JillRod. The chosen golden child.

Mia said...

Derick and Jill are on fire! I can only speculate as to what is going on and why so many Duggar family members, inlaws and extended family members are distancing themselves from Jim Bob (and/or Josh) and the herd. Legal trouble? Shady dealings? Or maybe just the truth about a LOT of things finally coming to light?

I don't know if Derick is correct when he says that JB was being shady, withholding money from them all but I wouldn't be at all surprised...and that thought is COMPLETELY disgusting! That was fine when the kids were all living (and eating) at home, but half of them moved away years ago. Also, how is it that Michelle is okey dokey with JB preventing Jill from coming home? She sure didn't have a problem confronting that controlling man when sweet Joshie was acting out.


Willow said...

Mia - Can you tell us who else is distancing themselves from Jim Bob? I haven't heard about this and am very curious. Thanks. I have read a lot of things about Jill and Derick but haven't seen anything about anyone else. I do think, just on instinct, that there must be something else up or Derick wouldn't suddenly feel free to expose his thinking. There is also the investigation of the car lot that we still don't know about yet. Everything seems a little quiet lately from the Duggars and the Bates. Maybe I am over-thinking it.

Mia said...

Willow it seems that Derick & Jill are really chummy with Amy King and her husband now. Amy has recently been quoted as saying that she is a KING (not a Duggar) and so is her baby. Sounds like distancing to me. Also, at the time of the car lot investigation the Duggar son who is running for office (sorry I don't know his name at the moment) was questioned about what was going on. He stated that HE didn't know because he didn't live there anymore. Again, was he distancing himself? And if you'll remember, most all of the adult Duggars were making themselves scarce around the time that
officials were snooping around the compound. I just wonder what is going on.

Sparkey said...

Since this show began Jim Bob & Michelle with limiting their children while they were growing up in that stupid Gothard Cult only have themselves to blame if their adult kids are putting distance between the relationship with the Duggar parents. Jim Bob’s Greed I am sure is a factor. Jim Bob always tours himself as a saintly Christian yet he worships $$$ & is greedy & selfish with the finances related to his adult kids who appear on the show Counting On. I also believe the adult Duggar kids now see the Duggar Dad for who he truly is & they’ve lost respect & trust. I also hope the adult Duggar kids have lost their fear of Jim Bob he’s a joke & no one should ever fear this poor excuse for a man.

sandi said...

Considering what he's done,it was nice of Derick not to flat out call Jb selfish and greedy,which is just what he is,imo.All he said when asked why Jb kept all the money from the show was,"I don't know,you'd have to ask him"

Size said...

I believe that both Derick & Jeremy have influenced their wives as to the true realistic behavior of the Duggar Dad. Perhaps this is one of the reasons the distance is growing.

Willow said...

Thanks Mia. I see your point. I did hear about Jed Duggar saying he didn't live at home anymore. I also feel something is going on Duggarville.

Mickey2942 said...

https://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-moms/news/abbie-duggar-gives-birth-to-baby-girl-with-john-david-duggar-pic/

What? No home birth? No "toilet baby"?

So happy for this couple. They seem far more mature and truly happy.

Size said...

So happy for John David & Abbie & beautiful baby daughter Grace Annette. This couple very mature & delightful unlike Josh & annoying Jessa. Congrats to this wonderful family JD, Abbie & Grace Duggar.

Sparkey said...

Hopefully Michelle & her fundie’s were far away when Abbie gave birth.

Gem said...

Grace Annette Duggar is a beautiful baby.

Willow said...

I personally don't think Michelle deserves to have a baby - besides Jill of course - named after her and I am SO tired of the name Grace - but I like John and Abbie and taken on its own, Grace Annette is a very pretty name. I wish them all the best with their adorable baby.

Ellie On a Roll said...

A few thoughts...
I’m truly enjoying Derick and Jill’s rebelling against Jimbob and Mechelle. Who would have thought?

I think Jana is an equal bitch as Jessa. Talk about judging people in her passive aggressive posts!

I 100% feel the Duggar clan read all the snarky comments about themselves. Probably the reason JD, the PILOT, didn’t give baby Grace an aviation themed name.

It’s been quite awhile since the in-law family’s (Swanson’s, Vuolo, Keller & Caldwell) or Bates extended family have visited, posted photos or even mentioned the Duggar clan on social media. The Duggar empire is tarnished once again and the wisemen are staying the hell away.

Sparkey said...

I don’t believe the Caldwell’s, Keller’s, Swansons, Vuolos, Bates or Abbie’s family want to be near this toxic Duggar mess.

sandi said...

While Jana does seem defensive of Jb,she is also still living under his roof,so it's possible he's the one behind her praise comments of him.Jmo

Jak&Jil said...

Happy 30th Birthday Jana Duggar! My wish for you is to have your own bedroom, preferably in your own apartment far away from Duggarland. One can only hope.

A good career said...

It will be interesting to me, as a nurse myself, to see if Abbie ever returns to nursing. Most of the young women I've worked with not only work quite far along in their pregnancy but often have plans to return to work after the birth of the baby. It's a profession that is flexible in the shift hours. So many, especially will work the 3-11 shift a coupe of days a week, because they only need a babysitter for a few hours in the afternoon before their 3p.m. shift begins, then usually their hubby will take over from the babysitter until they get home. Also I know I worked many 11p.m.-7a.m. shifts & didn't need a babysitter at all. Of course, if they work more than 16 hours a week it would entitle them to medical benefits, vacation, sick time, as well as a pension in many cases. Not only can you make a decent paycheck but you will be able to keep up with all the advances in medicine if you continue to work at least a few hours a week. In this day & age things change quickly in the medical field. I know Abbie said she had extremely severe morning (all day really) sickness, actually ending up in the emergency room, so I understand why she didn't work while pregnant. I wonder if she has an AR license? If you go too long without changing your license to another state you will need to take refresher courses. To change your license, basically it's just apply to the stae you're living in & pay the fee. I hope she doesn't give up her license.

Sparkey said...

Add to that the Forsyth family as well.

Sparkey said...

Also the Seewald family

m said...

I wonder if jill will have another child. I am sure Joy will be saying number 3 is on the way.

sandi said...

I just wonder what Derick's mom is thinking of all of it.She said they all read from the same book,but the Duggars sure do have different beliefs.
She said she wanted to spoil Jill,as she was the only girl in the family at the time.Now she's got her chance :)

Size said...

Derick’s Mom is a credible person & sincere about her daughter in law Jill. I believe she simply tolerates the ignorance & limited intelligence of Jim Bob & Michelle.

Gem said...

If Jill & Derick choose to have another child it will definitely be their decision & not that of creepy dictator wanna be Jim Bob.

Y2K said...

Annette is the middle name of Michelle Duggar. Cheryl Burnett is the name of Abbie’s Mom.

Aimee said...

Do you think they have a new season coming? Jessa and Jinger are both posting more and more on YouTube. Maybe they are working on what they'll do after the show is over...

Z said...

So Ellie do you really think the Duggar’s read the comments posted at this blog? If so they must be reeling with disappointment to learn the World is not smitten with them. I wonder what their true thoughts are?

Size said...

Willow, Jed living off the Duggar compound & running for office is just political deception to fool voters that JB is pretending to be progressive it’s all a ruse & once the election ends ole Jed will return to the boys room at the Duggar compound.

Ellie On a Roll said...

Re: Z
Yes, I do think some of them read the comments here. The local town folk are definitely not smitten with the Duggars. It’s all smoke and mirrors with this family.

DeeLee said...

I’ve never believed for one minute that Derick & Jeremy have ever been intimidated by Jim Bob. However I’ve often wondered if these two just placated JB to have limited interaction with him? It’s something to ponder.

Glean said...

Personally I believe the parents of the Duggar in laws find especially Jim Bob to be nefarious in nature & therefore choose to limit contact & maintain some distance. A smart decision,

Leia said...

So apparently Jim Bobs advice to his kids when they marry “leave & cleave” was a bunch of breeze. Not surprised.

Mickey2942 said...

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/counting-star-josh-duggar-appears-124029592.html

Apparently, Josh and Anna with their children, went to Florida for Christmas. Apparently, Josh is on outs with JB, due to the Department of Homeland Security raid and investigation into his real estate operations.

Anna, just have another baby. Pray with a baby voice. Whatever you do to ignore reality.

zebracrossing said...

I really hope Jill has been able to get some kind of decent counseling for her childhood trauma. If she goes to someone for just one thing - abuse by her brother. I am sure she will start seeing other abuse as well. She needs to set boundaries and maybe that is what is happening in her life.

All these Duggar children (Bates as well) will have to deal with having their lives filmed for years. Told by parents it was for ministry...but have they seen anything reaped from those seeds sown on 'ministry show television'?

I think JBob and Michelle might have seen the possibility of bringing 'good Christian' values into the public's home via their television show in the beginning. BUT...
I just wonder at what point it became more about fame and money. If they were honest, they'd be able to admit the reason for filming has changed and might actually stop it themselves if they could see the damage it has caused in their children's lives.

I would actually admire JBob and Michelle if they just shut down production and said, "Our family needs some privacy now...we need to work on our relationships with each other...the Show is over."
Anyone think that will actually happen? Sadly, I think it is a long shot.

Glean said...

I think if & when Counting On is cancelled Jim Bob will probably implode as then he will be forced to seek another way to provide for the kids still remaining in the Duggar compound. Jim Bobs ego is one of his problems.

Sparkey said...

Jim Bob & Michelle’s contradiction, lies & deceptive ways will be the things that may destroy them. The public viewers realize these two hide behind religion & they are not sincere it’s just a game to them.

Akasha said...

Just wanted to say, Josiah was an awesome labor coach for Lauren

Mickey2942 said...

https://www.cheatsheet.com/entertainment/duggar-followers-are-convinced-josh-duggars-wife-anna-isnt-keeping-a-close-eye-on-her-kids.html/

Anna, stop the madness! You don't need to have more children to feel worthy! 13 or 14 more children won't make you "win".

Is this picture "posed" for Instagram? If it is, it is crazy. It looks like a mess. Maybe it is "posed"? Either way, just stop.

sandi said...

Jb appears to have many investments,like his own airport of 6 airplanes.While would miss the money from the show,I doubt it would destroy him.Just one reason he should have been honest with his family and either shared the tv show profits with them,or encouraged them to get their own contracts.Really no reason o lie about it.Jmo

Ellie On a Roll said...

Anyone seen anything about Michelle’s nephew Tyler or anything about the little “mother’s helper” girl helping Anna with the housework and M kids?

Lisa said...

The stink bus appears to be gone from the compound storage lot. The family must have gone to the church conference.

Beyond said...

Mickey, well Anna isn’t smart & will continue to produce more kids. She doesn’t know any better. This is her way of hanging on to a husband who is a louse & in her mind keeping him in line a plan that will probably & eventually fall apart. Sad very sad.

baska said...

Rim Job's ego is a constant refrain here and I think everyone's assessment of its size and malignancy is spot on. I wonder if the head of the Duggar Crime Family could name the seven deadly sins if he were forced to, let alone if he knows that pride, greed and lust feature prominently.

sandi said...

I think Anna really wants a lot of kids,and I think that's one reason she stayed.She knew she could have as many as she wanted,at that point,despite Josh saying he wanted a small family.She came from a family of 8,so I think she wants at least 8 kids.I think Josh lets her have them to keep her busy and away from whatever he's up to,who knows.Jmo

Bee said...

Well at least 3 of the 7 deadly sins is part of Jim Bobs daily life as we know it.

Mia said...

This family will NEVER stop filming, blogging, taking selfies, instagramming, twitter tweeting, you name it. They are fundie grifters and I don't say that lightly as I am a Christian. But this is what fundies like the Duggars DO. If they spot the tiniest opportunity to make money they jump on it. It is why all the girls are in a competition to put the most out there.
On that note I have an observation. I think that Jana and Jessa are especially loyal to Jim Bob and Michelle and the way they were raised (as fundies). IMO, JILL is the one who is pulling away more than any of the others, probably thanks to Derick. Jinger has done the same but to a lesser degree, probably thanks to Jerem . It will be interesting to see if any of the brothers begin to pull away.

Mickey2942 said...

I am Christian, and absolutely appalled and disgusted by the way Jill, Jessa, would "pose" when they were pregnant, constant selfies, prominent with tight, definitely immodest clothing. It was offensive to me. "NIKE" indeed.

The fact that this family continues to spout Christianity as their mission for their weirdness is also repugnant. JB has some very strange ideas, that are not "Christian", but he has proclaimed them as such. It is blasphemous.

Aunt Bea said...

Mickey2942; great post about the immodest photos the expectant Duggars post publicly. I agree that many of their SOCIAL beliefs are not Christian beliefs. I equate being pregnant and wearing those tight spandex tops that don't fit to be like an overweight person wearing clothing that is 3 sizes too small. Not a good look IMO. Wear clothing that fits when pregnant. That would be in good taste and also modest.

Willow said...

It seems eerily quiet around Duggarville and Batesville to me. Anyone else feel it? Also, while I'm thinking about it, I don't think any Duggars went to El Salvador this Christmas like they usually do. If anyone knows otherwise, please tell us. Thanks.

Cabin Fever said...

I’m amazed at the silly things the Duggar family posts thinking that they are sharing earth-shattering advice. Just saw that Jinger posted somewhere that being a parent causes long days and sleepless nights. Like “ duh” as if every person who has ever been a parent doesn’t figure that out in the first 24 hours of being a parent. Do they really think they are relevant in this world that has so many more important things to worry about. I really should get a life and stop clicking on Duggar bait.

Ellie On a Roll said...

I’m wondering what’s up with Jeremy and Jinger’s house that they 1. Rarely if ever post pictures of them eating at their LA house. 2. Rarely if ever share photos besides in the kitchen and maybe sofa area of their house 3. Never share anything about the outside setting of their home. Is it located in a seedy part of town? Is it less than what Jeremy would want to live in or lower than his standard? Something is definitely off with all the “eating out again” photos. What are they hiding?

Also, I don’t like how Felicity is fussy and they don’t feed her. Something is off with that, too.

Glean said...

We are all aware the only reason the Duggar’s go to El Salvador is to separate Catholics from their faith. If the Duggar’s weren’t ignorant about the Catholic faith then perhaps they would gain some respect. However the Duggars are Book Lazy & will never learn about the Catholic faith. I am a Catholic & insulted the Duggar’s believe we are idol worshipers. The Duggar’s ignorance is profound. The Catholics are not in a Cult as are the Duggar’s & the Bates.

Mazie said...

While pregnant wearing tight fitting clothing is not Christian or modest it’s probably uncomfortable as well. While pregnant the Duggar women appear to be obsessed with growing bellies they feel the need to show off their conditions as a way of bragging about the physical relationship with their spouses. It’s their odd way of believing they are the only women on the planet who can show off a pregnancy. It’s kind of a sick & immature way to behave.

Willow said...

Ellie on a Roll - I agree with you. Have had much the same thoughts myself. Also, I have been wondering what is up with Jeremy's seminary status. Is he still attending? He never mentions it anymore, that I have seen in awhile, and I think that is strange since that was what he was all about before he came to Los Angeles. It seems everything is staged and phony now and so odd.

Mickey2942 said...

It is the only source of self esteem that these gals have. That is the absolute tragedy.

Pam said...

Maybe they want a little privacy. No reason the whole world needs to see their bedrooms and such. Also, the may not show the outside of the house for security reasons in case some nut job recognizes it.
Just my guess.

Give me a break said...

So, what exactly is the status of Jeremy’s seminary school progress? Did he drop out? I feel that he’s being very deceptive and vague about his degree. Unlike Derick, who is up front and honest about law school, finals, what he does on breaks, actual photos of class, locker, library and mentions friends he’s met in class. Jeremy doesn’t do ANY of this but is willing to share what he eats 24/7. And frankly, I can see why his suit pants and coat were busting at the seam because of all the restaurant food he chows down on all the time. Something is very shady about Jeremy. Just saying.

Ellie On a Roll said...

Wow, just saw a group picture of the 4 new moms and their babies in an US exclusive. The first things that jump out: 1. Jessa’s baby is so swelled up or bloated looking and the skin tight outfit makes it look worse 2. Jessa looks like the only one still carrying a bunch of pregnancy weight even though she had her baby months before the other women 3. Lauren is showing some major knee there. Nike! 4. Abby might be wearing black pants. I can’t quite be sure though

Shelby said...

By the number of IG posts and YouTube videos the Duggars are posting, I’m betting the show is being canceled or put on the back burner until the whole HLS investigation is complete.

Mazie said...

If & when the Duggar’s Show is not renewed very soon people will forget about them just as they’ve done with other reality shows or shows in general. People will look forward to the next new program & they will move on. Duggar’s are not memorable.

Mickey2942 said...

He is JB, just younger. Probably gets free food for his Social media postings. Wouldn't surprise me if he also asks for additional money as well.

He is a mega church minister wannabe.

Jak&Jil said...

Just read that Anna's sister Priscilla (who is again pregnant) and her husband David Waller, their four children, and Anna's brothers Nathan and David are in Zambia visiting Anna's sister Esther and her husband and their 11 children. Oh, and Esther is currently pregnant with number 12. All I can say is WOW! I wonder if they will do anything there besides preach to the people of Zambia.

Laura said...

First there was #littleduggarkids and now we have #sayinsfromsprugeon. Serious eye roll. Jessa is beyond pathetic trying to stay relevant and she thinks her kids are all that. Her kids are cuter than any of the others, or funnier, blah, blah, blah. Maybe Jessa should be spending her days homeschooling those blessings in reading math instead of wasting her days on Youtube and Instagram.

Give me a break said...

So, within 24 hours of my posting, questioning about Jeremy and Jinger’s house, viola, all kinds of photos appear. LOL Jeremy and or Jinger are definitely reading the snark blogs.

Z said...

The Duggar sisters or their siblings in general can thank their Dad for their lack of education. Because Jim Bob did so poorly in school he harbors resentment toward education & decided his kids or especially the girls would never be permitted to go to college. How stupid. Tom the other hand the Bates encouraged their daughters to go to college & some of them earned degrees. Michaela is pursuing a nursing degree. Gil Bates much smarter then dumb Jim Bob.

roddma said...

"The Duggar empire is tarnished once again and the wisemen are staying the hell away."

Why would they stay away? They haven't. It';s like thinking a collie will stay away from a shepherd. The Duggars aren't toxic to the Bateses or Kellers. In fact the Kellers, encouraged Anna to stay. It a danger to think they are less toxic when they come from the same group.

Bee said...

Well the Keller’s in Zambia will do their best to convert the people of that country to the fundie way of life.

Leia said...

If Jim Bob & Michelle hadn’t been such controlling & selfish parents their adult daughters could have been so much more vs early marriages & quick pregnancies. With a college education there is no limit to what these girls could have accomplished. However from birth each was Programmed to marry early & to have as many children as possible. The brainwashing worked because the primary focus of each Duggar daughter & daughter in law is pregnancy. It’s really sad.

Mickey2942 said...

Great, just what those folks need to hear. "Be fruitful and multiply". How about "Women should get an education, work, and be independent from men.".

Stella said...

Jeremy and Jinger are obviously reading the snark blogs. Suddenly there’s a picture of Jeremy, PubliciTy and his books on a table in their house studying hard to be a Mega-preacher. Go figure. And what’s with Jinger posting all this unflattering pics for the World to see of her getting her dried out looking hair dyed??? WTH Nobody cares. Jinger’s so vain she thinks people give a toot. She’s not famous...she couldn’t even sell donuts.

Special Ed Lady said...

Just curious with Pricilla being pregnant is it safe for her and her child to be going there?

lisa mcginess said...

any one see sierra D on that podcast. she said she was sexual abused as a child and overcame it.

Size said...

Mickey you are so logical. Excellent point. However when the Duggar’s go to these pseudo mission trips I don’t believe they are very effective to separate those folks from their faith. The Duggar’s are just very self serving.

Mickey2942 said...

Of course, just another method of grifting, and not having to actually work. These people take the cake on laziness and uselessness. They have zero education and skills, their goals are to just hang out at home with their wives and eat Sammiches. So, they decide to be "missionaries" and convert the "heathen". Perpetual "vacationaries". They live on handouts, and grifting.

And think that is okay. I would be ashamed to be Jinger's mother, with her and her spouse, Jeremy, going out to eat every night for free, as long as they post their food on Instagram.

Don't these people believe in actually having a job? Supporting themselves and their children? Obviously not. JB and Michelle lived in a ramshackle house donated to them by a church, while JB spent his own money on his political career.

These people have no shame.

Sparkey said...

Oh please that post by the Vuolo’s was probably staged.

Willow said...

Its not easy to have a job and work to support yourself and your family. However, I think the Duggars are missing the satisfaction and self-esteem that it gives a person. Having faith in yourself instead of others is, in my opinion, actually easier in the long run. I think it also gives you a sense of empathy for others. IMO. Its not all the kids' fault, though, but hopefully they may learn it throughout their lives. I think Austin has a leg up on this issue.

Size said...

Is Jeremy really in seminary or is this too just a facade for TV?

Mazie said...

The Keller’s in Zambia promoting the Gothard Cult will be a mission that will not be successful. Once they leave Zambia the people of that. Country will remain with their original faith or no faith. The purpose of the Keller & Duggar trips to these foreign countries is just self serving to make themselves feel superior & as a vacation. I am not convinced they are sincere. Far from it!

Mickey2942 said...

https://www.cheatsheet.com/entertainment/counting-on-fans-notice-that-john-and-abbie-duggars-daughter-has-a-name-that-sounds-like-a-common-movie-theater-treat.html/

No one in "Duggar World" has a worse name than, "Spurgeon". They call him, "Spurgey" as a nickname.

Gotta say it, only someone who was homeschooled in Arkansas would think that is a good name for a kid. The bible is filled with names, Luke, Adam, Gabriel, Paul, Matthew...but, Spurgeon.

Willow said...

I am not necessarily against all missionaries, in general; however, I am against anything "Gothard", And may I add that I would never dream of traveling to Africa while pregnant like Priscilla Waller did. I think they traveled to Israel when she was pregnant with her first son as well. Maybe there was some reason they HAD to go then or never (to Africa). Who knows. Maybe I am just the worry-wart type. My dad just taught us to not take chances unnecessarily. He used to always say "If you don't want to get hit by a Mack truck, don't stand in the middle of the freeway". But I digress. lol

Sparkey said...

Jinger’s blonde hair has no shine just looks dried out. Jingers skin tone clearly she’s a brunette. Highlights would have been a better choice for Jinger.

sandi said...

David took Priscilla to Australia when pregnant as well.And I think she was also ice skating while pregnant,and David had her hiking to the bottom of a ravine while pregnant as well.
She seems to be pretty tough,but I would have to say NO to all of those while pregnant.
Her sister Esther moved to Africa while pregnant,and she's given birth to 3-4 of their kids there,with midwife care at home.Not something I would go along with,either.Jmo

roddma said...

Re: Bates girls college

The Bates girls' college is "approved" careers for women. Being a nurse or teacher isn't too far out there for IBF/ATI people. They don't get to live away from home. And it seems all that education goes out the window when they marry. Josie announced "retired" and she's barely 20 and got a baby. I doubt if Erin gets to teach piano now with 4 kids. I think the difference is the Duggars have more money. Is Gil really that smart? He quit a good paying job in the 90s to start his business.

Mazie said...

Roddma thanks for the clarification about the Bates girls. Was surprised Josie Bates retired at age 20 seems a bit lazy & no ambition. It’s that ole fundie mentality these girls can’t overcome.

Z said...

Josie Bates was a hairdresser or stylist.

Size said...

Please clarify is it Carlin Bates who earned a degree as a teacher?

Mia said...

So I wonder when Derick's tell-all will be coming out, lol? Derick and Jill are kicking butt and taking names. I can only imagine what will come out.

Willow said...

Size - I think it was Tori. I think Carlin's is a more "general" degree of some sort.

Size said...

Hey Willow yes it’s Tori who earned a teaching degree.

Leia said...

The Bates girls launched a clothing website. If the Duggar girls created a website they should call it fundiefashionforyou.com

Mazie said...

Also Jinger’s blonde hair ages her appearance she’s a pretty girl & should go back to her original hair color.

Gem said...

I definitely hope that Derick will write & publish a “tell all” book. It could be a best seller. If & when this book happens it will be interesting to know how self appointed saint Jim
Bob reacts.

sandi said...

I hope the book is about more than Jill sharing recipes,like one for a baked potato.Jmo

roddma said...

Micheala Bates Kielen doesn't seem to be lazy. She was already doing quilt/blanket things for babies. Having no kids myself, I feel badly for anyone infertile who wants kids, but it could cause her to seek other opportunities and I hope nursing opens her eyes like law enforcement gave Zach a different view though they may not do a 180.