Joy travels to Kentucky to find her perfect wedding dress, but with so many options the overwhelmed bride has to make some big decisions. Austin and Joy enjoy some bonding with their future father-in-laws. And Israel celebrated his second birthday!
60 minutes
Ratings: 1.187 M viewers and a .29 rating.
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Yawn.
I don't watch this show anymore but I like to read these comments. People complain about the Duggars but they still watch. The show is so boring. All they do is marry off immature kids to other immature kids and then join the baby race but it seems to be paying off for them.
The title alone tells how boring it must have been.
More like Joy can't decide on a dress, so she asks Jessa to pick it out for her. It's ironic that she and Austin 'chose' vanilla cake AND vanilla frosting. Just like they are.....boring.
I thought this family would have enough wedding dresses to just wear used, borrow one from her sisters. Oh, unless TLC is paying, and you need to make up something for the show, that is incredibly cheap to film. The days of flying to exotic lands is over...I am waiting for a field trip to the ILB Ark exhibit. snooze
Did Joy care at ALL about her one and only wedding?
Anna was the one who had to wear an old borrowed wedding dress. She never counts for anything except pushing out the perv's babies.
I don't watch anymore. I come here for the comments. I really don't like joy anna anymore. I am sick of seeing the same garbage and none of them doing anything different except getting married to their "best friends" and having babies. I have some hope for jinger yet. You would think with 19 kids some would want different things. I have four other siblings and none of us followed the same path. The brainwashing must be strong in this bunch.
Joy anna got stressed out about wedding stuff because she has never had to make any decisions concerning her life before.
Daddy dictates her life.
Now Austin does.
She says she pro- life. I can see the irony in this.
Laura - spot on comment: "She says she pro- life. I can see the irony in this." So sad isn't it?
I don't watch them but thought understood someone today that Joy asked Austinhow she should wear her hair and he said he didn't care. If that is true it doesn't sound to me like he is so controlling. If he hives her freedom to make up her own mind on some thongs I hope she embraces it.
Yawn. Crickets. Nails on the chalkboard... B.O.R.I.N.G.,
Joy likes A-line dresses. Why? Because that's what AUSTIN likes. Not because it's what JOY likes! Not because she thinks the a-line style is beautiful, or flattering with her figure, or because she's likes how SHE looks, or because she's dreamed of an a-line style since she was a little girl, when she was dreaming of HER wedding day.
I don't know about y'all, but this subservient dynamic with Joy & Austin is = SCARY.
I felt so bad for poor Jenni. It must be awful to be 9 years old and your mother is marrying and moving away! It is so apparent how weak the relationship with Michelle and the kids are.
I do not watch but I read on Daily Mail that Austin didn't really care what dress she chose. He was fine with whatever as long as she was in a wedding gown.
That, along with him not caring how she wears her hair, doesn't sound like he is an insecure person lime poor pathetic Jim Bob Duggar.
However, it does sound like Joy has been conditioned to believe she must let her husband push her around as her creepy dad does her mom and all the family members.
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Joy tells the wedding dress designer "I really don't care". Extremely rude. Her mother and grandmother did not correct her. Her calls to Austin and constant remarks that this is what Austin wants or likes show how immature and unprepared for life she is. This was so depressing that I had to stop watching. No Joy in Joy.
I DVR this show and fast forward through the boring parts- which means most of the show these days. This one was incredibly frustrating! I dislike Joy (for some reason) and her complete indecisiveness over the wedding dress drove me crazy! Most people have some idea of what they like but not Joy! Apparently she had not even glanced at wedding dresses before going to the wedding dress shop. Then, why in the world did Ben have to tag along with the 2 small children? Couldn't he have kept them for that relatively short time- maybe JB could have helped him?!! I fast forwarded through all the inane interviews with the "boys" and the skeet shooting. One last observation which is a bit snarky- why does Josie's hair always look greasy or unwashed?
Title of this one should be 'Austin's Dress'. Sheeesh!
Could two people possibly be less interested and more apathetic about their own wedding than Joy and Austin?! From the cake to the dress and everything in between, it's all been, "I dunno," "I don't care," or, "Whatever you want." Doesn't portend great things for them if you ask me.
If you are raised in a male centered cult like the Duggars, Austin should have been sitting in the chair telling her what he wants. The females should have stayed home studying their ovulation cycle charts. Do you think Ben might be realizing that birth control might be a good thing?????
After the dress was selected, and they decided to do female bonding time in the bridal salon, I realize when Jenni was hugging Joy- Jana will be home with all the boys and just the little girls. She will have no sisters anywhere near her age- there is over a 15 year age difference between Jana and Johanna (the next sister still living at home). Poor Jana.... what must her days be like now? She must be incredibly lonely. The older sisters and Joy were so close, and shared so much. Now Jana is home alone without any real sister/female connection- what adult conversations is she having? What sisterly joking and laughing can she be doing? My heart breaks for her even more.
TLC should focus on Austin and Joy flipping houses with Jana not Jessa doing the interior design. Similar to HGTV Fixer Upper. The story should be on the process and show the buyer. They should show Jana learning interior design tools and being creative. No rug rats screaming around. Adults only please.
If Joy had been allowed to be the tomboy she really is we would see a different person. Instead she has been squeezed into a one size fits all mould, she has tried to emulate her sisters but she just comes across as bossy and slightly superior, those are not good qualities in anyone, and do not make a likeable person.
Isn't it normal for a girl to have at least SOME idea of what she's always dreamed of looking on her wedding day? As for me I pretty much had my wedding planned when I was 6 -- didn't meet the groom till I was 37 but the final result was pretty close to my original idea. None of these Duggar girls seem to have dreams or aspirations (other than Jinger wanting to be a photographer living in a big city). THey will marry the boy their Dad thinks is suitable (aka easy to manipulate) and start the baby-making competition with their siblings. Who will reach the ultimate goal of their own 19K&C first? These girls have not been taught social skills (like being polite to salespeople) and independent thinking. Their father and then husband tells them what their opinion will be on a certain topic.
I found it so telling that Joy didn't have the ability to make a single decision - she never has been allowed to before and now suddenly she has to make a whole string of life changing decisions in a short time. Also, I found it telling that GRANDMA picked out the winning dress. Not Joy's "sweet momma" or "best friend sister" but instead Grandma. Does Michelle know her children at all? Obviously she cannot even pretend for the show.
Everyone feels so sorry for poor Jana but she has obviously chosen the life she wants to live. I don't believe she's being held captive. This is the 21st Century, for goodness sakes! If she wanted to leave and change her life, she would have.
I felt REALLY bad when Jenni's first sister mom, Jill, left for the first time to go to Central America. To compound matters, every time Jill cane back to Arkansas, they had to say goodbye...again. Over and over that poor child kept having to say goodbye to her mama. Sad.
I thought "you have this huge family with you, don't keep calling your fiancé about a dress! " But I also felt bad for her cause it just seemed like she was being tortured by the dress shopping, something most brides enjoy.
I noticed that they have partitioned off one corner of the girls dorm. Looked like a bookcase barrier with a small entrance for someone---probably Jana. Sad. No door, no lock to keep anyone out. Primative because she still has to raise 4 girls and all of the grandkids.
I wondered why MEchelle would take Josie and Jordyn along to pick out Joys dress. Then I saw Jana went too....that explains it! Here I thought "mama" was taking some time with Jordyn for once. Silly me! Obviously Jana wanted to go so she had to bring her "kids" too. As usual MEchelles ONLY child, Josie, was hugging on her. Such phony people!
Joy looked like she wanted to cry and needed some side hugs as she called her 'best friend' Austin just to 'hear his voice'. How ridiculous this girl is, completely overwhelmed by dress selecting. I thought JillyMuffin was a sheltered drama queen when she freaked out in C.A. over the shower rod falling down, but Joy? I always thought she was the more rugged of the girls. Another snooze-fest of an episode, I didnt watch the whole thing because it was so lame. Im sure I didnt miss much.
Maybe the exception being Josie. Favorite, special little Josie.
He does say he doesn't care, but then on their wedding episode, she comes out and asks him if she should wear a veil or not, and he asks isn'tshe going to put a braid or something in her hair. Also, this episode she said he didn't want her going barefoot in her wedding dress.
Sounds like Austin has more class than Jill did getting married with dirty Barefeet. I don't care how clean that church floor started out. When you have people tracking in dirt on their shoes you are going to have dirt.
And didn't she walk outside for the
stupid 'first look' thing? Ugh! Who
hasn't seen someone spit whatever
they hawked up from clearing snot out of their sinus cavities. I don't want to step on that even if it is dried and I can't see it.
Poor Joy. She seems like she was thrown into this marriage just to help the ratings. She isn't interested in any of it. Shame on Jim Bob for pushing them into marriage so he can keep adding to his bank account with high TLC ratings.
I feel sorry for the way they have forced her to abandon her personality from her younger days. They are molding her into something she isn't. Who in their right mind would want that?
The only thing that Joy seemed interested in or showed ANY emotion over was the house renovation. She was as flat as a week old glass of soda while being forced to pick out a wedding dress. It was painful to watch.
I also noticed that Michelle paid some attention only to Josie. Why couldn't Jordyn and the other little girl sit next to her too? It's such a shame. That family is mixed up and they think they have it made.
Why did Jessa help Joy shop and not the 'mother of the bride'? Ironically, Mary Duggar picked out the dress...Joy had awful alterations made on it. I liked the original sleeveless dress; the neckline work was sheer, but beautiful. Not immodest IMO at all, and I dress somewhat as a classic conservative person.
Joy acted the same ho-hum way in choosing a wedding cake. I don't think that girl wanted to marry. How can one marry with NO effort put in to it at all? She didn't even call the church when she was supposed to.
I wonder if JB or Mr. Forsyth, or someone, informed Austin that his job was going to be to smooth out Joy's rough edges a little bit. He seems to get the idea that your wedding hair should be just a tad special, including shoes. On a side note, before Joy's wedding, I had pictured her in a bo=ho type dress with cowboy boots. I never dreamed she would pick a more normal, formal style wedding dress. I wonder if she wanted something a little more western, or casual, and the idea was nixed by others. Just a thought. Personally, I liked the first one she tried, that was a little tighter and had a pretty train. I think it had a lot of lace, though, so it may have looked totally different up close and her family may have thought it wasn't modest enough.
Here is what should have happened:
Sisters meet with Joy and show her photos of dress styles. Narrow down which style she likes.
More photos to narrow down type of bodice, lace, train decisions. Write her preferences down.
Communicate all to the designer. Then go to the designer WITHOUT Ben and the boys, WITHOUT the little girls. Michelle and Grandma tell Joy this is a day with her sisters and not Austin so put down the phone for 8 hours and enjoy their time together. Michelle and Grandma tell Joy to be polite and respectful to the designer.
Joy is a whiny, fussy, spoiled brat. That pouty baby voice, being mad and frustrated with everything. She was is full blown 13 year old mode. Geez. Free dress, free wedding, free honeymoon, tons of wedding gifts....... just a brat.
Ruby, I so agree with you! I had higher hopes for Joy.
If I had to only try on certain styles of wedding dresses , I would be depressed as well and not care. Joy knew she could only select a certain style (modest,modest, modest), pretty strict for a young 19 year old. She doesn't really get to have her own input. She knows it. And maybe Joy is self-conscience trying on and modeling clothes, not only for her family, but a million viewers as well. I can see why she gave an attitude. What if she had no desire to share her special day with a camera crew, but EVERYBODY in that family and on the payroll, INSISTED she must to keep the ratings? I say give the girl some slack. Most likely she was forced into exploiting her special day. I wouldn't be too happy-go-lucky either.
I agree with Ruby. Joy is old enough to know better and she is well aware that she is being paid.
Joy. I haven't watched the show in years, but when I did she seemed confident and tomboy-ish. It sounds like that's been "trained up" out of her. How sad. Imagine having to stuff down who you really are to fit in with the loonies in your family. I bet it does cause you to seem whiney or spoiled or mean. I will never feel anything but sadness for the children in this family, what shot do they have at normalcy? No matter who the girls marry, they're only allowed to do what the new headship is gracious enough to let them do, so it's trading one master for another. How depressing.
I think Joy likely wanted a very simple, small affair and not a circus. She likely would have been happy with a ceremony outdoors at the family campground. Her focus all along was on Austin and the life she would have after the marriage. Her indifference to the whole wedding planning process made me think that her personality has not been broken, but that she agreed to go through the motions because daddy told her to do it for the family.
She certainly didn't fear being a mother. All of that buddy group work had prepared her for those responsibilities.
I was happy to hear her talking with pride about how she will go into her own home and not one of her daddy's. Perhaps she sees that as a first step to being out from under JB.
Natasha, I think the reason Joy seems so uninterested in wedding planning is because she wasn't interested in getting married. For the rest of us, there is no shame on wanting to have a physical relationship with someone, but in Duggar Cult world it means having to get married. Sad. Sad. Sad ... now it's babies all the time for her unless she takes birth control seriously.
Why did Joy drag two dozen people all the way to Kentucky to find a dress? The little girls missed quite a few days of school just to hang around for the sake of their stupid (un)reality show. Or maybe it is their reality; their boring boring reality of being cooped up in their compound where they stay up too late each night, get up too late each morning, do a little school work, run around outside in the dirt with bare feet and hang around while the show is filmed..... boring boring boring boring.......
What school did the girls miss? Is there school work any more since their live in school tutor left to marry that older man with a sexual criminal record? Wonder who is teaching the children now.
I'm getting a suspicion that Michelle and probably Jimbob are reading our comments. Am I the only person that noticed Michelle talking in more of a soft whisper or remaining quiet instead of her normal little girl, sweet as candy fake voice in this episode? Especially when the girls are upstairs in the dorm room packing.
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