Free Discussion, November, 2017

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Ellie On a Roll said...

I feel that the cancellation of Counting On could be the best thing to happen to the Duggar family. They are due a reality check and having to face up to all their deception, flat out lies and self-serving behavior maybe be what saves this family.

Big kite said...

Does anyone think that Jinger has been away from the cult long enough to begin to see how distorted her prospective of the world is?

Can someone like her with a very limited prospective and knowledge catch-up, or is that just too much to expect?

Barbara M said...

Right on Ellie. Benboy, Mr. Delusional and innocent Joe would have to get out into the sinful world and find real jobs to support their families if TLC canceled. It sure would be a wake up call for the Duggar kidults, having to work and show up on time.

Yes, Jinger has proved she is seeing the light, going against the Duggar family rules by now pushing out babies yet and wearing normal clothing and reading books other then the bible.

Ruby said...

big kite, jinger has been away from home but I don't get the feeling she is the brightest bulb. Add to that the fact that she has been sheltered all her life, it's going to take years for her to grow up. I don't have much hope for her, really.

Patty said...

I have to agree with Ruby. I think Jinger may be realizing how legalistic and self serving her family has been now that she is being exposed to people outside of the bubble. She is also hopefully becoming involved in their church in Laredo and being exposed to real bible teaching. However, she is extremely childish and immature. It will take a long long time for her to develop and catch up to her actual age.

Mickey2942 said...

I grew up in Southern Utah, in a very sheltered environment. And even now, there are references to things everyone else seems to "know" that I have no clue about, and this is 30 years since I escaped, to live a normal life.

Years of deprivation and literal brainwashing does not go away in a few months, or even decades.

Pam said...

I do believe Jinger is seeing the light, however I still think it will take time to catch up academically in order for her to make much progress. I seriously doubt she is ready for college courses, and she probably would not do well on the SAT.

I know she likes photography. Perhaps she could do a business with that and maybe take some classes.

Annie said...

In regards to Jinger "catching up" now that she is out of the HOT zone of her family of origin, it may be too late. Yes, she is wearing pants and spending time doing things with Jeremy that the Duggar's never considered proper. It's her outlook. The comment she made when they went to the library about how Jeremy loves books and now that she loves Jeremy she now loves books. I think most will remember that remark and how middle school aged that is. Her life is a game of house to her, it appears. Jeremy has lived a previous life that was more worldly and it made me wonder at the match between the two of them.

As for classes and photography, she would never take classes. Jeremy or not, she wouldn't go out and take classes and start her own business. Those girls/boys in the Duggar clan aren't working/school material. What were they raised for?

Heart in Florida said...

Jinger's development depends completely on where it is that Jeremy 'takes her' and what he exposes her to. I wonder how many of his friends 'from the past' he sees and socializes with on a regular basis, couples-wise? I also hope that not all of his friends wives have children. This opens up a lot of other topics of conversation between the ladies....and not just the Bible. I can only hope that his mother and sister are mainstream and expose her to other outlets when she visits that Jinger's parents would have forbidden. It's all up to Babe.

Carmel said...


"As for classes and photography, she would never take classes. Jeremy or not, she wouldn't go out and take classes and start her own business. Those girls/boys in the Duggar clan aren't working/school material. What were they raised for?"

They were raised for baby-making -- to fill JB's quota of 200 grandkids or whatever huge number he mentioned. That is their only "job". It all leads back to JB & Michelle. I've clicked on links for articles about different Duggar daughters & hubbies. Every single time, the click leads to that photo of JB testifying with Michelle looking at him adoringly. Proabably sharing their birth control horror story for the billionth time.

Lizzyb said...

I 'm just happy that Jinger and Jeremy are about to celebrate their first anniversary and are childless! Hooray! Unlike her other siblings (so far), she has gotten to know her husband and to experience married life and other new experiences without the burdens of being pregnant or caring for a newborn. There is plenty of time for that later but she is still in her mid-20's!

Meme said...

Mickey 2942, thank you for sharing your personal info and explaining about brainwashing. Jinger does have a long way to go and it’s difficult for those of us not born into that lifestyle to understand. It takes time, exposure and most importantly, education. Still, most of us cannot begin to comprehend what it must be like for Jinger.

Patty said...

I believe Michelle had an addiction to pregnancy, just like someone with a drug addiction. Being pregnant and nursing a new baby must put her on a hormonal high. When the new baby begins to ween, the hormones drop and she feels a compulsion to get pregnant again to keep feeling good. There is no other explanation since she shows no real interest in the children once they are no longer an infant. I remember her statement after the 19th child that when someone asked her if she was pregnant she said "no, but we would like to be". No one in their right mind wants to be pregnant that many times. Its a form of mental illness. When Josie was born and she stayed with her at the hospital for months, I felt so sorry for those little toddlers at home with no Mother. They were only 1,2, 3 yrs old. She never mentioned how hard it was to be away from them or who was taking care of them (Probably Jana). It was ignored on the show. Obviously not a concern. Just all about Josie, the newest. I thought it was disgusting and stopped watching around about then.

NW Arkie said...

"I wonder how many of his friends 'from the past' he sees and socializes with on a regular basis, couples-wise?"

Not many, unless they travel to New York regularly, or his friends make the trip to Laredo. Also unknown...how many of those friends are part of his old wild past that he has "renounced" to return to his Calvinist upbringing.

Meme said...

Great post about Michelle, Patty. When you were discussing how the little kids were left behind (during Josie’s ordeal) I got so emotional remembering a long ago time when my own mother had to be hospitalized. It is terrifying to young children and makes them so insecure. They believe that Mama is never coming back. On the show, no one ever mentioned those precious little girls and what they were enduring. It was all about Michelle and Josie. BTW, I know it is tempting to think, “oh well, those little girls weren’t used to having a mother anyway.” A child’s need for its mother is always there, though. Remember how Jordyn (I think it was her) used to try and be super helpful at home, locating baby bottles and shoes for her parents? Her need to please was so sweet and pitiful. She needed attention from someone who was unwilling to give it. I really feel that Michelle only felt like a mother to Josh and Josie.

Mickey2942 said...

Meme, Thanks. The education piece is the hardest, because you start from scratch at age 20. Sure, I could read, but barely do any math. Even now, I have poor math skills.

The control factor is huge, because your every movement was controlled, where you go, what you do, when you are free it is frightening. You passively wait for someone to tell you what to do. All initiative has been programmed out of you. Thanks to "Blanket Training".

BeckyM said...

I am sorry, I can't remember which post it was mentioned on, but for those of you who were talking about Alice in an older blog, here it is:

http://www.ibiblio.org/bascha/blog/2006/03/21/gigantic-family-day-on-tlc/#comment-36114

Alice's comment posts start just a bit before halfway down. She was spot on about the Duggars, (Precious Josh and Grandma Mary) and (with it being 2007 - a decade past), there were still a lot of questions about what is still being discussed. Not everyone drinks the Duggar Kool-Aid, not everyone did, and people found them sketchy in the beginning as well. Reading the comments from the 2007 post is like reading the comments now! And yet, TLC keeps them on the air......

roddma said...

Children need their fathers too and these kids had neither parent. I guess Jim Bob was only 'babysitting'if Michelle went alone to the hospital. I did feel sorry for Jordyn and Jennifer but especially Jordyn never bonded with either parent since she wasnt even a year old. There wasa clip showing tow of the older daughters teaching her to walk and you wonder where are the parents-sad. No wonder they cry over the sisters leaving.

roddma said...

I saw a birthday post for Bradley Bates the other day with an obvious race car theme. Zach and Whitney acknowledged his love for sports and animals. Now there's not anything wrong with this, but the glaring gendered expectations are obvious. I thought what would they do if Kaci showed an interest in racing or football?

And would someone teach them new vocabulary? Kelly's birthday post for herself thanking her family used 'sweet' three times.

colen said...

I wonder if JB and M would love to have the adult children and their families living in a house like the Meet the Putmans? Also, has anyone else noticed how reality shows are having a cancer scare episode to reel in viewers.

Jonina said...

re:"Now there's not anything wrong with this, but the glaring gendered expectations are obvious. I thought what would they do if Kaci showed an interest in racing or football?"

The parents (and grandparents) will do everything in their power to make sure Kaci never shows interest in boyish delights like cars & high-impact sports. She will get married, have as many babies as her body will take and be a sweet little submissive wife/SAHM.

Kristine said...

I came across this bible verse recently. Wondering how Derrick feels about it since he often posts on social media how others are to live. Is he following God's word when it comes to this verse? I doubt "providing" means begging others for money.

1 Timothy 5:8
Anyone who does not provide for their relatives, and especially for their own household, has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever.

Twilight said...

I bet Josh is happy: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5047687/Josh-Duggar-wins-legal-battle-stolen-photo-lawsuit.html

Emma said...

He gets that one thrown at him a lot on twitter, hes never replied, funny that!

Diana said...

Jonina..In reference to the daughter of Zach and Whitney Bates, Kaci being a submissive wife/SAHM....Im not so sure Kaci will be like that. Whitney has a job with a real estate company and to her credit she also wears pants. Another thing different about Zach is that as a sheriffs deputy who went to a bona fide police academy,he doesn't work for himself. I'm not sure if it's Gothard or IBLP, but, they strongly encourage self employment. I once read that when that cult got a hold of Gil Bates that he had a very good job with good benefits doing a regular route for Frito-lay. Supposedly, due to the cult, he quit all that to start his tree trimming company that he still has to the best of my knowledge. This is why you see the Duggars being self employed as well. As for Kaci being steered away from an interest in cars or high-impact sports? I definitely agree with you there. The Bates do seem to adhere to traditional gender roles, unfortunately. One other thing different about Zach and Whitney, they kissed prior to marriage. SCANDALOUS! Not that the kiss meant all out disobedience, they actually apologized to Gil and Kelli over that! Don't misunderstand, I'm not saying Kaci will go off to secular college for an MBA degree by no means. I do agree she will be taught that her number one job in life is wife and mother. I'm saying that I think Zach and Whitney are more "fundie-lite". After all, Zach even works Sundays when it's his turn! Now Gil and Kelli Jo? Kool-aid drinkers by the gallon!

Linda said...

I read Gil had an actual job at Nabisco not a route salesman.

Bluebell said...

So sorry you had to live like that Mickey. Your posts are some of the best on here to read. Now I know why they are so heartfelt.

Aunt Bea said...

Both Gil and Kelly Bates graduated from a real state university with degrees in their fields. Gil, indeed held an executive-type position with Nabisco early on before the Gothard 'claw' took hold of him. He gave up a good position with a large company which provided benefits for him and his family to 'go Gothard". How is that Godly? I doubt his 'love for the Lord" was better trimming trees than working an executive type job. He could NOT provide for his ever growing family cutting trees down. I believe he let his family down on that one. I don't think God thinks more highly of him as a result.
They both went to regular school, he was on the wrestling team in high school and did quite well, etc. They did a show about Kelly going back to her hometown visiting her 'beloved high school and beloved high school teacher". How hypocritical of her. These wonderful, great memories she holds have been denied to all of her children to experience themselves. Her grown children were like 'hicks' when entering the school...'wow, how big', etc and silly comments like that. They really have missed some nice experiences. There is a downside to most things in life, I understand, but their choices in keeping their children so isolated are loaded with them.
As for Whitney and Zach courting....yes, they kissed ONCE before marriage. They had to APOLOGIZE to his parents for that?! How ridiculous...apologizing for something that just isn't a sin. If it's their childrens' choice to kiss, etc or not when courting, what is there to apologize for? Undo pressure..totally unnecessary to put yourself or your children through. The result is a rushed marriage with someone you don't know or have never seen angry, tired, or the like. They know absolutely nothing about each others' personalities after the wedding.

Lisa Mcginess said...

I really wonder how Gil and Kelly bates feel about their son Lawson having a singing Career? He is even on stage with different women? and at one time he is supporting the family?

Mickey2942 said...

It is so interesting to parallel ILB and other fundamentalist groups.
1. Shun contact with outside world.
2. Completely patriarchal society.
3. Education is minimized.
4. Women have rules for dressing modestly.
5. Rushed marriage to people barely known.

Auggie said...

Mickey2942, I agree with you about the similarities between fundamentalist groups. I find the FLDS (polygamist cults) are extremely similar to Quiverful. I'd add to that; the need for girls to always be sweet. Although with the FLDS, I believe they only have sex to procreate so once a wife is expecting, the husband drops that wife out of rotation and continues with the others. With the Gothard cult, the wife must be happily available even when 'big pregnant'. Maybe that's why Gothard doesn't promote the idea of multiple wives it's not necessary.

Diana said...

Linda... If Gil Bates was higher up in Nabisco than a route salesman, that just makes him leaving a job like that even worse in my opinion. I would bet he had health insurance with that job too. Now he doesn't mind telling the world that he and his family use their local hospitals ER as their private primary care facility. Probably doesn't pay the bill either since most hospitals aren't allowed to turn you away. Hopefully Gil has medical insurance, but I'm not holding my breath.

Diana said...

Aunt Bea...I heard Kelli Jo Bates say she obtained a college degree in Social Work. Did she also go to some kind of real estate classes? I've never seen or heard what Gil got a degree in, was his degree in strictly real estate? I'm curious. I've seen where many who follow what the Duggars and Bates do have said at least the Bates kids were home-schooled by a mother with a college degree, whereas the Duggar kids did not. I certainly do not want to sound as if the Bates are any better than the Duggars, but I will say this, the Bates parents do seem to actually KNOW and LOVE their 19 children. Now, if only they weren't part of an insidious cult.

Linda said...

I think Kelly said her degree was in special education.

life of their own.. said...

Wow. In the new family photos on the Dillard's blog, Jill is dressed in a short skirt! The shortest I have ever seen her wear. She looks so cute! I love her cute little shoes too. They aren't sandals, so that is probably why. She actually looks like a college girl in that outfit, especially in the last one. The skirt is above her knees. Go Jill! You are looking good! And Sam is so, so cute! I just wonder why they have big furry slippers on his feet instead of shoes?

Mickey2942 said...

I wonder which Duggar will be the first one to break away, go rogue, and writes a lurid tell all book, for the cash and interviews...pure gravy.

Ellie On a Roll said...

Mickey: my prediction is that Jackson will be the first Duggar child to go rogue.

Dani girl said...

Diana, I believe Aunt Bea said they graduated from a real STATE school, not a real ESTATE school. ) I too, read it that way at first. Lol.

Meme said...

The only Duggar who has given us any evidence of rebellion is Joshua. None of the others, IMO, would ever write a tell-all. You don’t write a book about a lifestyle that is your “normal”.
I also do not believe that Josh will write a book anytime soon. Maybe years down the road, when his parents are done with the public speeches and appearances. I believe that Josh is still a very troubled young man. He has not been “cured” of anything. He is a very calculating individual, more intelligent & cunning than his siblings. Maybe all those years of begging/manipulating others for freebies sharpened him up. Or maybe it’s just in his blood - after all, he learned everything he knows at Granny’s knee, workin’ those phones. In summary, Joshua gets my vote as “most likely to expose”.

Ellie On a Roll said...

Does it annoy anyone else that Josie, the miracle feral child is treated with blatant favoritism by Mechelle? I can hardly stomach watching clips of those two together or photos of the filthy "golden child" with her evil mother. What about Johanna, Jordan, or Jenny? And WHY was the feral child, Josie included in the clip of the last few minutes of Kendra and her mother before the wedding ceremony? I couldn't help but notice not only Mechelle butting her face into Kendra and her mother's private moment, but Josie wheezled her way in too!! Just another example of how rude and disrespectful the Duggars behave.

I pray to God that Mechelle is not allowed any say in the prenatal care and delivery of ANY of Kendra's children!!! And I hope Kendra's parents step up and tell the Duggar women to stay the HELL AWAY during the labor and delivery at the hospital. Because if Mechelle is involved, history has shown multiple day long labors, toilet births, hemorrhaging, emergency c-sections, total disrespect for the mothers REPEATED requests to go to the hospital, and violation of the pregnant woman's modesty and personal medical care. Seriously, for some reason Mechelle thinks she has the right to be there and make final decisions for the mother in labor.

Mickey2942 said...

It is interesting in a very large family that the older children have a completely different experience, and relationship with their parents.

I agree, it will be a younger child, who has a lot of resentment from feeling ignored, and part of a pack. And more than likely, a male.

Natasha said...

Jill looks decidedly heavier in the fall family photos than the last few photos she's posted and has a bit of a bulge in the stomach area. Please, dear God, don't let it be another baby.

laura said...

Just a side note but my divorce is final in a couple weeks and my something that has really bothered me since I found out about the duggars in 2009 is that my soon to be ex looks 100% like Jim Bob duggar. Jb is taller. That is the only difference.
I always thought will I have to look at him every day and think about jim bob.

Mellie said...

Ellie on A Roll, yes it is very annoying that Michelle demonstrates obvious favoritism to Josh, Jill, and Josie. I have my theories on the reasons, but it is very annoying.

Mellie said...

Mickey2942, I wonder if an older child will write a "tell all" book before one of the youngest has the opportunity. It may be something an older child considers doing once all the other financial resources have been exhausted (reality series, tv specials, speaking engagements, etc.) If not, then I predict that Jackson or Johanna will write a tell-all book. Or, maybe Jason (he's the one that fell from the podium, right?) I remember how cold Michelle was to him at the hospital, not comforting him at all when he was in pain.

imaamy said...

I agree in the pic where they’re all four standing on the campus sidewalk, Jill looks like she’s “expecting” another blessing. So much for the hysterectomy theory!!

Frannie D. said...

I don't think Jill could possibly allow get herself to pregnant again after the difficult labor & c-section. She's not even healed up and she is nursing. She probably is heavier because there is better food to eat here in the USA and she's been stressed out with all the changes Derrick puts her through, the unstable life.

sabrina said...

Michelle did not have empathy for Jason's pain or any of the girls who went through hellish labor for many hours. She just smiled at Anna saying she was doing a good job when the poor girl begged to go to the hospital but she made sure she was in the hospital for births.

Shana said...

I think Jill just hasn't slimmed her tummy since Samuel.

Randy said...

Derrick making Jill pregnant so quickly would be risking her life. Derrick, wear a condom, you egotistical fool or you could be left with 2 or 3 kids and no wife to take care of them. I can't imagine another girl, fundy or whatever, wanting to marry you to care for the kids considering you have no job and have lowered yourself to begging for money.

Gertrude said...

Considering how huge Jill's tummy was when pregnant, she needs a tummy tuck to get back in shape. He skin must be horribly stretched. If Derrick could have all that mouth work done, she surely could be allowed to have some improvement.

Sharla said...

Please remember that telling people off is likely to not get approved.

Pam said...

I doubt Jill is pregnant. I think she hasn't lost the baby weight after Sam. It's only been 4 months, and she was huge.

Diana said...

Dani girl I think you're right, thank you! If there's more than one way to read something, I seem to always pick the wrong one lol! Thanks again..

Diana said...

Ellie On a Roll... You sure hit the nail on the head when it comes to MEchelles favored treatment of Miracle Child Josie! I believe that of all the kids, Miracle is the ONLY one MEchelle truly bonded with, she was forced to. All that time in the hospital followed by nonstop care from MEchelle is most likely why MEchelle bonded with her. I used to wonder if Miracle had issues with mobility since the whole family pitched in to carry her all the time. I have to say though, there have been three instances when I felt REALLY BAD for Josie. The first time was when she pooped on the steps in the tin mansion and JB made one of the girls clean it up. The second time was when she licked all the pizza toppings when they all made homemade pizzas. The third time was when she had a seizure and Jana had her over the kitchen sink. Why those three incidents? Because they were shown to thousands, maybe millions, of viewers. You see, I like to hope that Josie will outgrow any difficulties she may have to go on and lead as normal a life one can have in a cult. While I realize every one of those kids have been exploited by their parents for money, I just feel that those three incidents being shown on TV just go so far over the edge that I just have no words! DISGUST is what comes to mind. Way beyond reality TV boundaries. I know one thing for certain too, not JB, not MEchelle, nobody will be telling Miracle Child when to marry or who to marry... No way, no how!Josie will be making her own rules!

Emma said...

Pam: I agree, I think it is just baby belly, she was huge with both babies and her muscles must have been so overstretched they might never go back to normal. Also Jill doesn't wear the most flattering outfits at times, and the sloppy blue sweater coupled with the bulky mustard cardigan did her no favours. The Duggars are not known for the healthy eating habits and if she is eating some of the stuff Derick has been posting (deep fried twinkies and corndogs) she will never loose the weight, most of us have had the post baby weight struggle its not easy!

Aunt Bea said...

I also agree that Jill hasn't lost the baby weight as it's only been 4 months. I'll give her slack there as she was quite large and had a C-section (2nd one). I' sure she has some swelling and scar tissue there and some numbness. I had an abdominal hysterectomy and I had some numbness at the incision site for quite some time. It's been 13 years now and it's back to normal.
I find it almost intentionally abusive how these parents allow their children to marry a virtual stranger while still in the puppy love stage. They move their children around like they are cattle or knickknacks on a shelf. No real understanding about BUILDING A RELATIONSHIP with someone BEFORE agreeing to marry them.
Both the guy and the girl are always on their best behavior. It's like marrying someone behind Door #1. You don't know what or who you're really getting until it's to late. Silly people.

Harriett said...

I especially like how the Duggars sling around the term 'besfriends' so easily. St one time the claim was buttinsky Sierra Jo Dominguez was Anna's best friend, then she became Joy's. At Joy's wedding the claim was that Joy and Carlin Bates were. Then wasn't it told that Austin was Joy's best friend?


Jessa claimed she and Jinger were best friends, but after Ben came along Ben was her best friend.

Jill claimed Derick was hers. I don't remember that she ever had one before.

How awful to be raised do clueless to not know what a best friend really is.

Harriett said...

Exactly, Aunt Bea. I shudder to think how many of us would have made a HUGE mistake if we'd married the very first guy we ever went out with.

saywhat said...

Guys, this is huge for Jill. This is the first time her knees have ever been exposed to the public. She was always the one to wear the long gypsy skirt. Always! The fact she is wearing such a short one, tells me she may be following in Jinger's footsteps. BTW, Jill is rocking that short skirt. She has the legs and height to wear anything cute!

Natasha said...

Unfortunately, I have to disagree about it being baby weight from Samuel. If you look at the family photos from shortly after his birth, she is much thinner even then. It could be the awful diet they have and perhaps even depression eating, but we can't rule out a new blessing.

Captain Crunch said...

I have looked at JillyMuffins most recent pictures, and I would not be the slightest bit surprised if she truly is pregnant again and so quickly. My theory is that I believe these Duggar members do in fact read this blog and all the others written about them. I believe they read anything that pertains to them, flattering or not. They LOVE the attention. How many places have I read the speculation that JillyMuffin might have had an emergency hysterectomy? Several internet sites. A lot of Duggar watchers believe the hysterectomy happened and little ol' JillyMuffin wants to prove everyone wrong. Plus, she will NOT let JessaBlessa beat HER in the baby-count department, since Jessa had Henry BEFORE JillyMuffin had Sam. Risk her life for Dillard number 3? Yep! She's risked her life and both baby boys twice now with these long labors and huge babies. Besides, JiminyBillyBobs running out of eligible children to raffle off for marriage show ratings and we all know Jana will not be allowed to have her own life because she's the one really raising those young ones.

Brenda B. said...

How terrifying if Jill is really pregnant again. How could her uterus handle another pregnancy without time to heal? She is supposed to be a midwife and have more sense. What are the risks involved with growing another huge baby in a uterus that has been recently slashed open? No doctor would recommend another pregnancy within months of c=section.

Lisa Mcginess said...

I think jill is a dietbaic and that is why she has large babies? and Jessa will be having another kids sometime very soon. Something is wrong with jill wonder why she is wearing that short skirt in that picture sure daddy is not pleased. I am sure daddy is not pleased with jinger and jermery no baby and they are married one year?

Meme said...

I don’t know if Jill is pregnant, but does it matter? ALL of these girls tempt fate on a regular basis. Here’s a handy list of what they ignore:
1. Women and/or their babies can die before, during or after childbirth, ESPECIALLY when they (women) decide to “play doctor” and treat themselves.
2. Husbands die, too. Sometimes they die in accidents, leaving behind unemployable fundy wives and children with hungry mouths.
3. Husbands sometimes divorce their wives - even Christian husbands. (It’s true, Anna. Just ask my sister, a former pastor’s wife. See, sometimes a husband is a wolf in sheep’s clothing. Sound familiar?)

In a perfect world, Jill would take advantage of her current situation and get some college credits towards ANYTHING in the medical field. That way, she could rest assured that she is capable of supporting her children. Will she do this? Nah. But she should.

roddma said...

The Atlantic article someone posted on the last thread about kids parenting siblings was mostly due to mental issues and addictions. They should get some insights on people who have double digit kids and force the kids to parent especially daughters in the Quiverfull belief who left it.



roddma said...

IMO people who know an love their kids don't let them be around a man with multiple counts of misconduct against women. Gil is the same or worse than Jim bob since he refused to help a victim saying he wasn't on the board when it happened. Gil and Kelly are more charismatic and smooth talking.
I will say they do show the grandkids more attention and affection, even if they didn't to their own kids. Kelly seems sad when the grand-kids who live out of state leave at least it is portrayed that way. I think the DUggars have been on TV so long they lost what they had of charisma.

Mickey2942 said...

It is a horrible thought that your life is planned around ratings for a reality show.

Seriously, my heart breaks for these young women.

Hannah J said...

I believe Kendra and Joe were married only for the ratings. They were like 2 kids getting ready for a prom. Now they are married and expected to have a baby. Kendra certainly seems so immature and giggly and Joe has no job. They should have dated, gotten to know each other, further their education before marriage. It's so weird Joe was demanding no more then 3 second side hugs which makes one wonder how the 2 of them could suddenly be lovers on a wedding night.

Ellie On a Roll said...

Out of boredom, I checked out Sierra Jo Dominguez's baby registry for baby #6, and the gifts are starting to trickle in. 8 out of the 98 gifts she registered for have been purchased. Oh, and for your gift giving convenience, Sierra provides an address where you can send gifts direct.

Sierra Jo Dominguez
P.O. Box 283
Siloam Springs, AR 72761

The Domingues's must live near Josh & Anna in Siloam Springs.

Halle said...



Unbelievable!
I am SPEECHLESS that Sierra Jo Dominguez had the audacity to post the following this on her blog. Wow. Just wow!

"A super sweet thing that friends have done for us, is offer to bring us a meal! It wasn't until we had the girls that people asked if they could just send us a gift card, to a pizza place or restaurant, in lieu of needing to coordinate times, meal plans, dirty dishes, etc. I thought this was genius, and now just call a Momma that is about to pop, and ask her what her favorite restaurant is, and then give her a gift card! You can order food to-go, have the hubby pick it up, and NO MORE THOUGHT PROCESS into dinner plans! A win-win for all! So, on my registry, I went ahead and added our favorite restaurant choices!"

Grandma Wagner said...

What a beggar Sierra Jo is!! What's this, her 5th or 6th child?? I thought baby showers were for the first child. A registry?? Think I might register for free gifts too!!

lisa mcgingess said...

anyone think the bates and duggars are best friends? seems like their friendship fizzled out? did they come to the last two weddings. I do not think I saw them in any pictures.

LilBit0318 said...

lisa mcgingess...I believe it was at Jinger's wedding that I saw several of them. I remember getting a quick glimpse of Nathan sitting in the pews, seeing one quick shot of Carlin as a bridesmaid, and I'm almost positive it was Erin playing the piano with that big head of long, blonde hair. I don't remember that I saw any of them at Joy or Joseph's wedding (Though I could be getting some of it mixed up, and one or two of those sightings may have been from Joy's wedding.), but I don't doubt that the two families are just as enmeshed as they ever were. It's just that the Bateses have been able to learn how not to handle themselves in the public eye from watching the Duggars, and they're not going to jeopardize their show and paycheck by putting themselves too close to a whole mess of scandal, so they're just distancing themselves as much as they can publicly.

Big kite said...

Not sure why anyone who questions the Duggars is called a hater. Wanting them to tell the truth and to not get away with hypocrisy is not hating. Also people say you are atacking Christianity if you ask questions. I say Christianity has nothing to do with this. I will question malarkey when ever I see it.

Andrea said...

Agree with alle said...
"I am SPEECHLESS that Sierra Jo Dominguez had the audacity to post the following this on her blog. Wow. Just wow!"

Honestly, I feel badly for her. She obviously doesn't have financial means and she now has 6 kids. She's clearly not right in the head as no one in their right mind would bring a child into a situation where they cannot fully provide financial for all of their children's needs.

Dell said...

Actually Sierra has a very nice home, nice furniture, kids are well-dressed.
She is paid by TLC everytime she comes up with some stupid idea that gets her on tv, she made those horrible smashed messy cupcakes in a jar and sold them on Etsy, even though the Etsy rules do not allow it.....but she is friends with the Duggars so who cares about rules and health laws.

Unlike Amy and others, who won't bow down to Jim Bob, she will do whatever she can to stay in the Duggars good graces to stay on tv and keep the money rolling in. (She dreamed of being a movie star.)

Miss Manners said...



Looking at her Facebook Sierra actually tells people to go to her blog to read her post where Sierra Jo Dominguez practically begs for gifts!

PLEASE understand that not all people from Arkansas are so uncouth. She is not from AR. It is my understanding that she is from Missouri, but most people I have met from MO are not so boorish.

Maybe she needs to add an etiquette book to her baby registry.

So over this trainwreck said...

Jillymuffin probably started wearing a short skirt to keep Dumbo Dillard from having a Nike moment with the young women at the dances he has been attending.

Mickey2942 said...

Only someone who has no shame for asking for freebies would come up with a tacky, classless idea like this. The money grabbing never ends with this group.

And yet, she would probably give a cupcake in a jar as a "gift" for a new baby, only one!

Aunt Bea said...

My understanding of real Christianity invites questions...it doesn't discourage them. Since this family doesn't like real questions about anything remotely important, they have some problems going on there. Secrecy isn't Godly. Jesus had nothing to hide. the Duggars have hidden a lot and we all know what some of those things were...not from their own admission, but the discovery of their secrecy from others.

Darlene said...

I agree that Derick's posts on adultery, naughty women going after pious men, and his dancing videos have caused Jill to look more sexy. Derick is such a jerk for even writing such stuff on social media. I'd be really concerned if I were Jill......but I'd never be in Jill's situation to begin with. This is all Jimbob's fault for sending a girl with the social development of a 12 year old into a marriage with a man none of them really knew. Now she's stuck with 2 kids she seems to have difficulty handling. I believe her eyes are opening, coming in contact with girls younger then herself who have freedom to be themselves, a world of experiences and more knowledge then she will ever have. This Cross Church adventure is opening her eyes to the world and all she has missed.

Hmmmm said...

I also love how "the husband" must go pick up the meal because the wife probably can't be trusted to or of course God forbid she leaves the kids with the husband!

Hmmmm said...

She did look cute!

Lisa McGinnis said...

Heard the Webster are having baby number 3

Ann said...

I saw the picture of Jill's skirt. It looked cute and it made her look more youthful than seeing her dragging around on that old long skirt.

Izzy's legs looked so long. That little guy is really growing. .

Emma said...

Derick has been attacking Jazz on twitter again, referring to her as him and saying that she is being taken advantage of for others agendas. I find that rich considering that the Duggar parents have been taking advantage of their kids to push their religious agenda for years. They sold their kids lives to a TV company to promote the 'religion'and lifestyle they follow. Every detail was and is considered TV worthy including what should be private moments. They have promoted their modesty rules for dressing, and their courting practices of no hand holding until engagement and no kissing until you are standing in church and hitched to a total stranger. They have used their show to promote having as many kids as God will send, even if it could result in the death of mother and baby. Derick also said that it was wrong allowing a child to make serious choices about their bodies as the brain doesn't mature until the age of 24/25, more than one person pointed out that all of the Duggars to marry so far have been under that age, including his own wife Jill who was 22, so they were not 'mature' enough to marry and start popping out little blessings, I was more surprised that he was using a scientific fact, or maybe he is cherry picking those now too! Anyway he decided to take his ball and go home and closed his twitter account, although it just turned out he has changed his account name, maybe he thought he could hide, not going to happen. I think TLC have kicked him to the kerb so he doesn't care what he says, I just wish they would come out and confirm it.

Aylsa said...

Emma said: "Derick has been attacking Jazz on twitter again, referring to her as him and saying that she is being taken advantage of for others agendas. I find that rich considering that the Duggar parents have been taking advantage of their kids to push their religious agenda for years."

I agree that the Duggar parents have been taking advantage of their children for years. The kids are the reason the show did so well. Many folks liked seeing how a family with so many children managed, and since the kids are/were very cute and sweet, they won many fans. I was a fan for quite a while until some things started bothering me.

I found it extremely disturbing that Michelle had her cycle posted where the rest of the family could see it. That is a serious lack of boundaries and quite inappropriate, in my book. I also disliked the way that Michelle passed the infants off to the older girls once the babies were weaned. And the scene where Jimbob humped Michelle with Jessa and Ben looking on ... well,that was just terrible. How embarrassing for Jessa.

Also, about Jazz. I watched about three of those shows and found myself intensely disliking the mother. Jazz's dad had some doubts about Jazz being involved in a program where Jazz was going to speak about TG issues. He told the mom that he was worried about Jazz having so much exposure. Yet the mom totally ignored him and insisted that Jazz could handle it. I felt that the mom liked the attention too much.

One of Jazz's brothers called the mom down for being too focused on Jazz. The mom and this son were having some time together, but the mom kept checking her phone to see what Jazz was up to, and the son got very annoyed at her. This same son was upset with his mom because she wasn't at a ball game when he got a serious injury; instead, she was in New York for some event with Jazz.

I believe that Michelle Duggar and Jazz's mom (can't recall her name) are in it for the fame and the money.

A true mother thinks of her children first and herself last.

Aunt Bea said...

Emma, great post. You told it like it is. Thank you for that.

Betsy said...

I think Derick is one step away from totally insane and possibly dangerous. He got such a backlash for degrading Jazz before and now.....what's he doing again? Posting against her again then closing his account.....what's he thinking? TLC definitely must have dumped him. Everything he said is exactly what the Duggars do to their children but he can't see that. Jimbob must be highly frustrated that he cannot control Derick and who is now a threat to the rocky tv show's continuance. All Derick has to do is get a real job, take the money Jill has earned from her many years of tv appearances & book deals, buy a little house, raise his 2 kids (and no more) with his wife and on the side, do "missionary work" in Arkansas. He could helping build homes for the poor, work in food bank, help disadvantaged kids with homework, etc. But that means keeping a schedule, going to work and not being a "celebrity". Obviously, he planned to never work in his life, scammed Jimbob into turning over one of his daughters to him in marriage so he could be famous and started begging for money with a phony ministry website. It's going to be interesting to see if Jill & Derick are welcome at the Duggar Family Christmas this year after noticing he was not sitting with the other married to Duggar guys at Joy's wedding. Jill is in a mess with this delusional husband.

Mickey2942 said...

Duggar divorce? No! I don't know, JB may have different standards for his daughter's husbands than he does for his daughter in law's husband...

Derrick may write the first Tell All book for the money grab.

laura said...

Sierra is young. She keeps having kids.
If she doesnt even want to think about feeding them, what about their education and future meals?
Her statement about not thinking about dinner was shocking to me. Obviously she will have many more kids.
I'm not saying she is lying but how many friends do people have that just keep giving gift cards and money to feed someone else's kids?
It sounds really weird.
It sounds more like a plug for assistance to me.
My parents had 7 kids and during holidays or family events sometimes extended family would pick up a dinner bill but sierras story sounds strange to me.
If she doesnt want to think or can't afford to feed her kids she in no way in any universe should keep having more.
She comes off as off her rocker.

Margie said...

You could be right Mickey. I can see Derick writing a tell all book so he could maintain his celebrity, do the talk show rounds, book signings and reap the the monetary rewards without a care about the impact on all the Duggars. He's the most greedy, self serving man whose main goal in life is to accumulate money without working, be it outright begging or setting up a phony family ministry. Something is amiss in the Dillard household if he is posting videos of dancing to suggestive music then posts stuff about wanton women & adultery. Suddenly Jill appears in a short skirt.

Grandma Wagner said...

Doesn't Sierra's old husband have a say in how many children he has to support? Why is it only Sierra's doing? It's easy to make a meal for the family with all the prepared foods in the market or open up some boxes of mac & cheese & a few cans of veggies...ice cream for dessert. Can't be any easier then that.

Frannie D. said...

I feel sympathy for Jill. She had no social experience, never talked to a boy alone and experienced little affection. Out of the blue, she is led by Jimbob to a man in an exotic country who gives her some attention and she decides she is in love,, like some middle school girl with her first crush. Now all this was planned and schemed by Jimbob to up the TLC ratings with a stupid trip to a far away country to garner viewer ratings,then the wedding shows. Fast forward to today. Jill has been taken away from her family, afraid and alone in CA, experienced 2 long painful births, has 2 kids, a jobless husband with no secure nest in which to raise her children. She has taken to wearing short skirts as rumors fly that Derick has been inappropriate with the younger college girls, dancing & posting weird sexual stuff on social media. If she cannot trust Derick, who can she turn to? Certainly not Michelle who will just tell her to pray and be like Anna.

janice said...

Where does Derick get all the time to post on social media. Isn't he going to school, working at the school and being a husband and father? Seems like he might have the time to get a paying part time job.

Barbara N. said...

Why can't Sierra's husband make a simple meal if she forgets to feel her family? This man should be ashamed his wife is begging for gifts, like he cannot support them or buy meals.

Marilyn said...

Sierra Jo Dominguez had made some comment about her husband being concerned about being the breadwinner for all of them.

I saw a video of him and he seems like a calm, sweet guy.

Brenda B. said...

What sort of a man is Sierro Jo Dominguez married to if he can't say....we have 5 children to care for....I am the breadwinner....that's enough children for us.

roddma said...

Jazz Jenning's mom seems like the Jim Bob of the bunch to me. They protect their brand no matter the cost.There are all kinds of postings and articles about how reality tv harms kids. I feel badly for all of these kids no matter the agendas. It's too bad only three states pay kids for being on reality TV.

Loving fall said...

Re: Sierra Jo Dominguez's husband being calm...

Opposites attract

Just Furious said...

Well now with all the grifting going on in Duggar circle it makes me stop & think about this being Veteran's Weekend. When are the Duggar boys going to man up & go & defend this country? All the talk about how wonderful this country is but it wouldn't be if all the young people sat home playing games & doing puzzles. Every time Jim Bob has ever been asked bout his boys going into the service he immediately starts talking about how great this country is & how grateful they are for the people that protect this country. Well Jim Bob you have a good supply of young men there who could help keep this country free. When are they going to step up & do something instead of just sitting on the couch & playing games & doing puzzles. I'd love to see Jim Bob in the service with someone ordering him around. I don't think everyone should send their son or daughter off to the service but don't sit around talking about how wonderful it is that these young people are protecting us while your boys are taking everything they can get for free & doing no work whatsoever.

Mickey2942 said...

Sierra is possibly angling for her own TLC show...

Kami said...

Sierra Jo Dominguez is showing to be grifter and she has an incredible talent for it.

She got her nose on with Sam's Furniture since her husband worked there to try to support that growing family. Believing herself to be a beloved TV star she weenied in with Sam's Fueniture and has made sure she mentioned it numerous times to give them publicity.

When I saw Sam's Furniture I kept going since Sierra Jo Dominguez has had something to do them. I will go to Tulsa to shop, instead.

Gertrude said...

Wonder what do all the Duggar boys, including Ben, really do all day. There can't be very many man chores to do on the land since they do not farm or have animals to tend to. It's got to be boring to sit around playing games for years. One of them must have some ambition work at a fulfilling job even if it is home based. How can they be turning 30 in a few years and still be like children? They need futures. Jimbob will not always be there to take care of them.

coleen said...

I visited SJD's registry. I can understand requesting a new car seat; those things recall every five seconds! But baby clothes? If you know you are going to reproduce for several years coming keep your baby clothes and bedding. The gift cards seem cheap. I was told requesting a gift card for a gift is a no-no of modern manners.

Jak&Jil said...

Just Furious, thank for reminding us all that today is Veterans Day. I hope everyone has thanked our veterans for their service at home and abroad, and for their service in past and present conflicts. I'm flying my flag, as I hope others are too. There have been some wonderful WWII, Vietnam and Iraqi documentaries on Nat Geo today. Gosh, what these brave men and women have been through for our country. The Duggars should do themselves a favor and watch these. They might learn something!

As for any of the Duggar children (males and female) joining the Armed Forces, why should they defend our country when they've been to 'ALERT.' Personally, I don't think any Duggars would be able to pass the stringent requirements to enlist.

Cosmo said...

As much as I should be ashamed to admit this, I would watch Sierra's train wreck of a show. She seems to be 'a no holds back' type of person. At least she would be interesting! I don't think it would be boring. Think about it, the Duggars are usually the same old snoozefest and are getting paid for deciding what type of cheese their sister is. Sierra is full of spunk.

Ellie On a Roll said...

I saw a post from TLC stating that Derek Dillard has NOT been part of Counting On for months and that they had severed ties with Derek. This would explain Derek's rants, partying with the college kids, and him moving his family out of the McMansion. His rants about abortions, disagreements with Israel (a 2 year old ) and men having affairs do make me wonder if he is self-destructing. Folks, I think we're in for the car derailment of the Duggar Crazy Train.

Hannah K said...

SJD requesting gifts for #6 is shameful. She is begging like the Dillards and has already asked for food gifts. Hint: stop the baby machine for a while, catch up on your finances and concentrate on the blessing you already have.

bitsy said...

Here we go again!! Yesterday, Derick started a new GOFUNDME page. One anonymous person donated $2,694. immediately. Could it have been him showing how much a person should donate??
Also some girl donated $5. Here is the begging statement.

I started a fundraiser on gofundme to raise the funding I need for various missions opportunities I will have throughout the year. I have a donations goal of $10,000. This will enable me to fulfill my specific calling to ministry this year, including trips for Gospel-advancement and humanitarian work in Northwest Arkansas, North America, and abroad.

What humanitarian work has either he or Jill done? I think Derick has to be totally crazy to do this donation thing yet again. He's obviously in a panic after being axed by TLC.
Where is all the money he & Jill earned since he's was living on donations from conned people in CA and free in the mini mansion? He annoying and egotistical personality has caused many people to dislike him. The delusional Derick on the downward spiral and headed for the big train wreck.....which in his world ....could be the horror of getting a real job.

JenTru said...

They are officially posting now that Derek is fired from TLC's counting on!

Vilente said...

Derick is delusional. No parent demeans his 2 year old on social media. Jill is wearing short skirts to try to get his eyes off his college girl church friends Now TLC has dumped this unpredictable man, he's snubbed by the Duggars at the latest wedding and he's been busy posting crazy sex stuff about masturbation, transgenders, adultery, women going after men...what next?? Hope Jill stays safe & runs home to parents with her boys before something dangerous happens. He's got the wild eyed look, thinking he's special in this world when in reality, Derick is an unemployed beggar.

Not Impressed. said...

But if Sierra slows down popping out babies, she might not pass Michelle and Kelly Jo, who are currently tied with 19.

How good care does she really give them if she is taking trips to Waco with girlfriends, tearing over to the Duggars to do some pathetically lame, snark-worthy thing, blogging, making some ridiculous cupcake in a jar to sell that looks like the kids played
in it, claiming to throw a shower with a Duggar sister for another Duggar sister..... When TLC probably paid for it and Sierra Jo Dominguez is so ignorant to proper ettiquette that she isn't aware that family members should NEVER hold a shower for another family member. But I digress.....

Sierra sure spends a lot of time dreaming up silliness to keep the freak show on when she should be taking care of those precious little kids.

Sure she takes pictures when she is with them and posts them to give the appearance she spends lots of time with them but with all her scurrying around trying to be a TV star by hanging with the Duggars... It isn't as much as she wants us to believe.



Mickey2942 said...

Unless he or she completes 15 hours of college, more than likely they would not be eligible. No high school diploma means Tier two enlistment, Very difficult.

The Duggars insistence on homeschooling has literally created a number of children/adults with limited opportunities. Sure, self employment, work for Daddy, fix cars, fix up houses.

Both Michelle and Jim Bob had the opportunity for education, and a high school diploma. Something they have denied their children. There is something wrong about that...dream killing. No, you can't be a doctor, because we wouldn't let you go to school.

Mickey2942 said...

Derrick Dillard has his "Give Me Cash" shtick going again...
https://www.gofundme.com/ccsmmissionsderick-dillard

Really? Please! Here is an idea, get a job, and save up for a mission! Save money for education. Stop having children.

Since when is it "Christian Values" to literally beg for money? Stop the grifting!

Grow up, get a paid job.

Poor Jill, married to Peter Pan!

laura said...

For those who have been asking for the truth about Derek and his screen time, TLC tweeted Saturday night in response to dericks new comments about jazz Jennings.
Says he has not been on Counting On in months and they have no plans to return him to the show.
Christian tenets say judge not lest ye be judged or treat other as you would want to be treated yourself or everyone is equal in God's eyes.
I have said this before but I see him as Nathan Price from poisonwood bible.

Emma said...

TLCs announcement comes as no shock, only question is why did it take them so long to announce it? Jill is now the Dillard families main bread winner, unless Derick is so ego driven that he will not allow her to be on the show if he isn't on it. He has made himself virtually unemployable with his twitter antics and I don't think his new go fund me begging efforts will go to far. Yep Jimbob you picked a winner, now which SIL will be the next to create a scandal/controversy? By the way anyone seen the pictures of Jill rocking the skinny jeans at Silver Dollar City, bet ole Jimbob is having a stroke and Jingers getting the blame lol, and how can they afford theme park tickets if they are begging for money?

Aunt Bea said...

Well TLC has finally said something about their position with Derick and his public statements. ...sorry, it's not enough for me. In merely 'removing' Derick's presence on camera, they didn't say if Jill would continue to featured. If she will still be on the show, Derick's household will still collect a paycheck from TLC. So, really they did very little. The whole family agrees with Derick, obviously, but they know more than that to state those opinions publicly. That's the only difference.
They also give so much 'thanks and appreciation' to our nation's veterans, yet serving in any of our armed forces in any capacity is against their beliefs FOR THEMSELVES. Not cool IMO.
Another thing, that ALERT training 'camp' is not meant to be for our nation's defense...it's really a 'mind re-training camp' for those who may have some questions for their parents. At best, IMO, it trains the young men only for a holy 'war'...not much else. Oh, perhaps they should know how to camp like a good Scout should know.
Not so happy with TLC's actions as it should state whether or not it includes Jill.

Diana said...

lisa mcgingess and LilBit0318... As for any Bates being in a Duggar wedding recently.. Yes, Carlin was a bridesmaid in Joys wedding back in May. She is shown in Joys wedding pictures. Tori and Carlin Bates look so much alike that it's easy for me to get them mixed up, however, Tori is older than Carlin who is closer to Joys age. I've seen speculation that Carlin wasn't shown on Counting On due to the Bates having their own show on a different network. I don't know if that's true, maybe so. Regardless, Carlin was in Joys wedding.

Lisa Mcginess said...

I also noticed Trace Bates was at Joseph wedding saw him as a groomman in the wedding party? guess they are still friends. as for derrick shame on you for saying those things about her if you do not agree with her that is one thing but do not post ugly things on socail media about someone you would not like it? do what Jesus would do go and pray for her.

Ellie On a Roll said...

I hope Derek signs on for a tell all interview.

saywhat said...

Jill is following in Jinger's footsteps. She is wearing pants!! It is on pickles webpage. First the short skirt, now pants. Go Jill!! She looks awesome and so much more comfortable than dragging around those bulky, long skirts.

Dana Alton said...

I cannot believe Derick has started a Gofundme. With all the sick and unfortunate people on Gofundme, he jumps on the bandwagon. He should be helping others with the money he has from years on TLC. Where is that money? We have seen no evidence it is invested in a house, furniture, big nice car or clothing for his wife. So where is it? I bet Jimbob is distressed over this turn of events with Derick & TLC. Just keep your big mouth shut, stop begging and get a job. Tax season is coming up. Derick here's a wild idea....get a job preparing taxes since you have an accounting degree.

Gerti Conover said...

DerickMDilard is Derick's new twitter account featuring that a old pic of him in the mountains of Asia like he's a real missionary. He's begging for more money, directing people to his Gofundme page.
Saw the pic of Jill not only in pants but very tight pants. Her time at Cross Church has shown her what girls her age wear and she's jumping on the fashion bandwagon like Jinger. Jessa's gotta be jealous of her sister's modern clothing....will she be the next to go wild and wear short skirts and pants? Jimbob must be feeling like a Gothard failure with 2 girls going against the dress code regulations and one married one full year and not pregnant.

Heather said...

Oh yes, that would be something, Ellie, if Derick does a tell all book which will allow him more celebrity making the talk show rounds and lots of money. He'd better jump on it before one of the other Duggar kids does it and reaps the rewards. It's going to happen one day because there is much money to be had.

Maria said...

Gofundme update. Derick has 3 more donations of $5. each. He's not getting much money with his shameful begging as most donations come in on the first few days. The first curious $2,694. anonymous donation could have been by Derick himself to show it's good to donate thousands to him but he's only received $20. more dollars total, a measly $5. each. That about covers another steak dinner for him and Jillymuffin or maybe another pair of Trump socks.

Captain Crunch said...

Re: TLC 'unfeaturing Dipstick Dillard', must be devastating for precious favorite daughter JillyMuffin. While Jiminy Billy Bob and clan no doubt agree with Dipsticks assessment of Jazz and people like her, what Jiminy Billy Bob doesn't agree with is more controversy brought to the Duggar brand and the financial benefits it brings to them. Or lack of financial benefits it brings to them. It's interesting that as of late, Ben Seewald and Derek are allegedly in 'ministry school', (I'm sure not to be outdone by already made Pastor Jeremy Vuolo,) could be they are starting to realize this Duggar Gravy Train is drying up and so lets go get a real job..or..a ministry job where we preach our hate and our congregation supports us financially since our t.v. gig is about up.

Nancy G. said...

I cannot imagine any adult wanting to hear Benboy preach. He has NO life experience and is only taking some internet courses so he does not have to leave the house and be tempted by the wild women Derick has described. It's so easy to claim for years you are studying the ministry on the internet. I think it's an excuse for his lack of a job. Of course, average people go to work and can take classes in their spare time on the internet but don't tell any of the Duggars this big news !!

Captain Crunch said...

I hope Ben gets back to hangin' with Flame so he can thrill us all with his fresh raps. Strictly for comic relief for me.

Hildy said...

Right Captain Crunch, this married man & father of 2 was such a wimp in the big city when he was with that supposed good friend from the inner city, Flame. Wonder how Ben ever met Flame since he goes nowhere except with the girls to buy wedding dresses, etc. I'd venture to guess it was TLC set up to get some more views hoping Ben could make it as rapper and open up a whole new Duggar story line which didn't because Ben had no talent and was painful to watch. So how is the boy going to succeed as a preacher?

Sunny said...

Re: Maria and Derick’s Gofundme. Not sure the donations are legit from two donors. Their names are Yuza Grifter and Jim Bob Jennings. Loving the wit, but not sure how Gofundme handles that.

Andrea said...

I'm embarrassed to admit, I'm slightly obsessed with Alyssa Webster. She appears to have a pretty fab lifestyle and beautiful family. She herself is very beautiful and she lives in FL, which I think is like winning the lottery as I hate winter. Also, her husband is the son of a senator. That's like one step away from Royalty in my mind. Anyhow she wrote the following in response to a comment on instagram announcing baby girl number 3:

"I don’t intend to beat my moms record.... not for me"

I'm so confused. She didn't intend to beat her mom's record. I guess, we can chalk it up to her being 23 and perhaps not fulling grasping how reproduction happens? Someone excitedly pointed out on instagram: "23 and pregnant with your third baby." Oh gosh. Wondering if her instagram feed is going to look so glamorous in ten years time, unless of course she figures it out and the babes stop coming.

Jeans wearing lady said...

You know Sierra Jo Dominguez will prove her true character by distancing herself From Derick and Jill. She isn't about to do anything that might possibly keep her off of one of the episodes.

Maria said...

Sunny, I noticed the hilarious names on the gofundme. LOL and that's all there is as of today. Dillard's 3rd attempt at donations since his return from CA is failing. How will he handle the embarrassment being dumped from TLC and being a proven total failure at getting donations? What's his next scheme to avoid working? He's gotta be a disappointment to his mother and the Duggar household must be full of anger toward his stupidity with TLC, risking the show for all.

Karin Johns said...

Does anyone have an idea how much $$$$ Sierra makes for appearing on a Duggar episode?

Captain Crunch said...

Grand Master Bee will make it as a preacher as long as he finds a church located in the heart of fundie-land, because he and other Dugger-ites, are rock stars in fundie-land, and he will have no trouble preaching his anti-Catholic hate/ignorance to other fundies who will flock to hear it, because Grand Master Bee is 'one of us'. Lots of sheltered people that follow this family and stuck by them, even with the Josh revelations.

Dana Alton said...

Are the Gofundme donations promises or do they pay immmediately? If not immediate payment, those $5. weird name donations are just people insulting Derick. Even with Derick ego, he's got to be upset.

Pickles nickel said...

Alyssa sister Erin might beat the mom she had two miscarriage and now having her third kid? All in three years time give your body a rest cannot take it,

Meme said...

Does Michelle Duggar ever look at photos of herself? She looks terrible. Short, stooped over, always wearing the same clothes with the same heavy shoes. Don’t even get me started on the butt-long hair. Why so extremely long? As far as I know, Gothard never specified a length. She just wants to be extreme. Same thing with the too-high necklines. She buttons every friggin’ button on a blouse, up to her chin. THEN, she tops it off with a scarf tied around the top of her neck. Someone tell the lady that no one is worried about her jugs. She’s so afraid that someone will glimpse a neck vein and get turned on.
There are more important things to worry about - like Derick’s shenanigans.

Heart in Florida said...

Were Ben and Jessa with Jerick at Silver Dollar City? Jessa should have been home cleaning her unhygienic house instead.

Ruby said...

It is my opinion that Derick has been trying to distance himself from the Duggar machine and Jim Bob's control since the Josh scandal broke. He may have made the statement about Jazz as a way to get kicked off the show. I think he is sick of the negative comments and, frankly, bullying about his looks, weight, hair, and total lack of privacy, etc. he has experienced. The begging for money though--Derick, go get a job!!

Stephanie said...

I get you. I remember when she married that man looking into him and his dad is a prettt big deal in the Senate (it’s all about what committee you are on that gives you power) anyway, well off, well know , attractive. I was kinda surprised that HIS family was cool with the strange world of the Bates family because that could go against her. But they are conservative and Alyssa is gorgeous and will look great in campaign photo ops and stops.

In relation to that, when Jimbob has his bus stalking the Republicans a few years ago UNINVITED I was hoping a political staffer relative or someone would fall in love with one of the D girls. No chance. All it did was get pervert Josh a big job in DC.

Stephanie said...

I agree with everything you say but one, I think Jessa has been the leader of the pack since Josh pulled their TV show.
Jill left for CA and was filmed part time. Jessa was staying calm in interviews when Ben was trying to hold himself together.
I really believe that JB is their Manager and gets a percentage of everything any of them earn. No reporter ever asks but that’s what I personally believe. If that’s the case, Jessa has lead the post Josh TV shows supporting the entire family. How many people is that? Josh, Jill, Jessa, JB and their families at the time of the scandal. Close to thirty people.

Natalie Jervis said...

Update on Mr. Delusional's gofundme account. There are no new donations. One of the 4 five dollar donations photo looks like Jazz but with a different name. The other 3 seem to be joke names. He's failed and made a fool of himself....again. If Derick wanted privacy I feel he would shut his big, know it all mouth and not be making crazy social media posts, videos & pics or begging for money. He would bet a job and stay under cover, caring for his family. His egotistical, wacko behavior has distanced himself from the Duggars and his only source of income...TLC. He's a train wreck heading for a crash because of no one but himself.

Gina Marie A. said...

That little house of Jessa & Ben's couldn't take more then a few hours to clean if they both set their minds to it and get organized. At least throw out dirty diapers or we'll be seeing them on the hoarding show in a few years.

Big kite said...

Everyone of the men need to get jobs including JB. The money that Jim Bob has accumulated will only last so long with all of those separate households to support.

Danielle said...

I wonder who donated over $2K to Derrick’s go fund me?

Mickey2942 said...

Derrick Dillard is beyond help. There are online bible colleges that are free.

Lisa Mcginess said...

derrick got two donations from a jim bod jennings and the picture on the go fund me page looks like jim bod and michelle? so maybe it was them.

Patty said...

In my experience, most missionary families are supported by a church or an organization. They don't usually ask for donations from complete strangers. They also do not ask for donations for their education and training. They get that first on their own just like any other student. Derick is delusional in thinking that the fame of the family he married into entitles him to ask for whatever he wants. The fact that he thinks he can also at the same time spout off whatever he wants about other people on twitter without any condsideration for the feelings of others, is beyond grandiose. And really stupid.

Emma said...

Derick could possibly do what so many failed to do, and get the show cancelled. Had a nosey over on the Duggar blog and as expected the majority of the posts are supporting Derick, such good christians with some of the horrible things they are saying! Many of the posts are also saying that they will no longer be watching TLC. The Duggars all hold the same views as Derick, they just have more sense not to say it too loudly or publically, the have too much to loose. It will be very interesting to see how this pans out when the show returns, if all these fans no longer watch the show ratings will plummet. I am sure Jimbob is furious with Derick, I wouldn't like to be in his shoes if the show gets cancelled!

colen said...

I wonder if maybe the reason why the Duggars are still on the air is because someone at TLC feels guilty about taking this family of then simple means and putting them on national tv. Sure, JB and Michelle could have said no, but they had little to no money and all those mouths to feed and a tv company was offering them perceived big bucks to just have a camera follow them around.

Elspeth said...

I wonder if maybe the reason why the Duggars are still on the air is because someone at TLC feels guilty about taking this family of then simple means and putting them on national tv.

That isn't the way TV works. TV is a business and works on a profit model not an emotional model. Shareholders must be appeased. If a show does not make money in some way for the network, then it will be cancelled.

Sierra's Stale cupcakes said...

Karin Johns said...

Does anyone have an idea how much $$$$ Sierra makes for appearing on a Duggar episode?
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Sierra Jo Dominguez makes enough for that family of what...almost 8 to live in a very nice house and have nice clothes and lots of extras.Her husband worked at a furniture store. She likes to say she is a stay-at-home mom but she is always running with her hair on fire.

Wonder if she will be making those nasty stale cupcakes in a jar, which she advertised on her Etsy as Home of the Cupcake in a Jar. (She is just like the Duggars, embellishing. Etsy shows there are 2,374 Results for
“cupcake in a jar” https://www.etsy.com/market/cupcake_in_a_jar )

Christine said...

Patty said: "In my experience, most missionary families are supported by a church or an organization. They don't usually ask for donations from complete strangers."

Agreed. I've never seen missionaries funding themselves through online giving. The missionaries that I know either were funded by their church, worked to save up money for a short-term mission (e.g. Mormons with 18 month missions), or worked while in the mission field. The tent-maker model, where the missionary works in the field to support themselves, was recommended by the Apostle Paul. It also makes it easier to get into countries that don't offer missionary visas -- like the Middle East or Nepal -- since you're officially there to work, not to preach.

Reality said...

Derick Dillard wrote: “What an oxymoron… a ‘reality’ show which follows a non-reality.

“It’s sad that ppl would use a juvenile this way. Again, nothing against him, just unfortunate what’s on tv these days.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Yes, Derick it is sad that your wife and her family is on television, pretending their show is a reality show.....

But come on now,you were being paid, too, weren't you?

Sunny said...

I thought there were no advertisers for 19 kids due to Josh’s escapades. Does Counting On have advertisers? If not, how does it make a profit? I stopped watching over a year ago, so am not sure.

Alisa said...

Today Derick "go fund me" Dillard received a $5.00 donation from someone named Doosch Bags !!
It's all big joke now, people are paying $5.00 to insult him. Also, that sure does look like Jimboob & Michelle in the other $5.00 donations. In all total, not counting the first big donation that I believe came from Dillard himself, he has made a total of $35. which includes a new anonymous donation of $10.today. Jimbob must regret the day he turned over his Jillymuffin to Derick. It may have got him some views in the beginning by now Derick is self destructing and possibly taking the Duggars down with him.

Darlene said...

Mr. Delusional has no pride. Imagine humiliating yourself on the gofundme and not many real people donate. It is very suspicious that in the first moments of the account being orginated, a donation for over $2,000. arrives anonymously, then just a few tiny donations with joke names. Even he must feel like a big fool.

Toothpick said...

Do we know who it was who messed up Derick's mouth?
There is a doctor here who had been reported to the state over and over for his mess ups which include palate expanders.

Meme said...

I can’t believe that anyone would buy Sierra’s nasty, smashed-up-cupcakes-in-a-mason-jar. Who would pay big money (or ANY money) for that mess? One person who ordered said she was surprised that her cupcakes tasted like they came from a boxed mix. LOL.
Sierra is on a constant lookout for financial opportunities. Have ya’ll seen the video she tried to push? Kinda obvious.

Gothard told his followers how to live and act and reproduce. But he never told them how to feed all their children when there’s no money for food. Sierra is hoping for a viral video, a reality show, an online business, etc. She seems fame hungry. Or maybe she’s just hungry?

laura said...

Online bible school.
I would totally give my spiritual life to an internet warrior.
Just like I would give my vein to an internet trained anesthesiologist to knock me out before my internet trained cardiologist removes my ivc filter.

I wonder if Jill is blindly following her Sheppard like a blind sheep in the dark or if she has thoughts of disappointment or disagreement with how her best friend is behaving that she can't voice because he is her master or if she has said anything to him like calm the heck down or what are you thinking?
I Just wonder if she feels the same way about being in love now that she's actually met and bred and is expected to live with him until the end.
On a side note has anyone ever wondered why they canceled honey boo boo who has ties to a molester or sexual deviant of some kind and didnt bring honey boo boo back alone without the parents?
Like they KIND OF did with the duggars?

Forgive me if I am not thinking of an obvious point about it

InVA said...

Would someone be willing to post the link to Jilly in pants? I can't find it. :-)

Thanks!

Molly said...

https://www.facebook.com/Pickles4Truth/?hc_ref=ARTT5qklrd3_vQhqrXD5Xh_QY1NcGQuReHRbsU15KOfqR8JE7JygeHHXdPJfMb_OqVg&fref=nf

Jill in pants picture....hope this link works if not its on the Facebook page for Duggar Family Life: Not all pickles and hairspray.

dinda said...

What is so special about Sierra's cupcakes in a jar? Cupcakes in a jar have been sold by many people since at least 2008. I can just see her mashing them down in the jar without gloves, with her baby diaper hands. I thought if you sell food, you need a board of health certificate for a commercial kitchen.

Aimee said...

Andrea - I also enjoy Alyssa's instagram. I honestly was a bit surprised by Baby #3. #2 is only 10 months old according to the US Weekly article. I remember her saying something about "waiting a bit longer before the next one..." when she was between #1 and #2. While three children isn't a huge amount - this is #3 in three years AND she is only 23. Unfortunately, the cute dresses and jeans fooled me - I thought she was different from the rest. Nope. She has just as many as her baby crazed sister Erin who I do think will have 10+ children if it doesn't kill her first.

Gerti said...

What does Pookie Pookster mean? That was the last donation name to the beggar on gofundme.

Lisa Mcginess said...

I kind of agree with you aimee that erin paine will have a lot of kids. she already had two miscarriages and two full term babies all in less then f ive years? that is so much wear and tear on ones boby she needs to slow down a little bit.

Elspeth said...

Erin Bates Paine had three miscarriages before Carson went nearly to term.

Strawberry Shortcake said...

Well, Sierra Jo Domonguez thinks she is very special and like the Duggars does everything according to what she wants & to heck with laws and rules.

When she was churning out Way overpriced Chocolate covered strawberries I about gagged to see them draining, (after she washed them) on what looked like bath
towels.

I just imagined how many baby and big people's hiney cracks had been dried with those.

Strawberry Shortcake said...

I thought Erin Bates commented that she wasn't going to be like her mother,

colen said...

per " Sunny said...
I thought there were no advertisers for 19 kids due to Josh’s escapades. Does Counting On have advertisers? If not, how does it make a profit? I stopped watching over a year ago, so am not sure.
11/13/2017 6:44 PM "

I don't believe Counting On has ads. Their commercial breaks show promos for TLC shows.

Diana said...

Well, my husband thinks I've finally gone off the rails! Reading the comments here are so funny that I just bust out in a full gut buster laughing! The 2 subjects making laugh the most are the ones about Sierra making cupcakes in a jar and the ones talking about the crazy people's "names" who've donated money to Derelict. Honestly, we have a few posters here who missed their calling in life as comedians - unless some of you really are famous comedians using different names!

Like many of you, I'm trying to figure out WHAT IN THE WORLD IS GOING ON IN DUGGARVILLE! Jilly Muffin wearing pants!? Next she"ll want to wear colored panties instead of the lilly white undies for fundies! All kidding aside, I'm beginning to wonder if Jill has entertained the idea of DIVORICE? I'm sure at this point that Jim Bob must be furious at Derelict. Maybe Derelict up and left with one of those "Jezebells" in that dancing video he posted! Guess we"ll just have to wait and watch!

Booger said...

Does that mean all of the other so-called reality shows have to carry them?

Interesting.

Emma said...

Jimbobs pet name for Derick.

Heart in Florida said...

I have a thought here folks regarding the "Derick thing". Do his supporters really think if Jazz insulted the Christian Duggars publicly and continued to do so that she wouldn't be fired too? I believe the answer would be YES. TLC can't have that going on from any employee.

Perhaps it's what Derick wanted....to be free of the show. No wonder Jilly Muffin looked so glum baking those apple fritter things.

I also don't think that Jim Bob OR Michelle give a damn that Derick was let go as long as THEY are still connected to the show and a pay check.

InVA said...

Thank you very much Molly for the link to Jilly in pants. :-)

And thank you Sharla for sharing her post and for keeping this blog going. I know you spend a lot of time and effort and it's appreciated. :-)

colen said...

https://www.gofundme.com/ccsmmissionsderick-dillard

here's the link to DD's gofundme. he posted a vid thanking a donor.

Mickey2942 said...

These women are completely brainwashed, to believe that they must keep having children. They don't leave it up to God, they obsess over fertile days, and do literal family planning to meet their agenda of procreation. It surprises me a bit that none of the girls has rebelled yet. Once one goes, usually the others will follow.

Elspeth said...

No, the other TLC shows aren't "carrying" Carry On. The network is getting sufficient benefit from the show to keep it. It does raise the overall level of viewership of the network so the network can charge more for its average advertiser minute. There may be other benefits that we can't discover. Networks are definitely not charities and answerable to both advertisers and stock holders. Any show must benefit the network or will be cancelled.

auntliddy said...

Mb the dr told her lady parts are failing, so if she wants another baby go ahead and have him/ her asap, and then hysterectomy.

auntliddy said...

She just does not come off as healthy since first pregnancy. Hopeshe' okay.

franny said...

I just noticed that one of the reasons Derick wants gofundme money is for his own personal development and to be available when someone needs his help. What?? He got a few donations today but I'd venture a guess they are from his momma and maybe even Jill to make it appear there are people who want to give this college educated man money so he doesn't have to work. He is destroying his already shady reputation.

Meme said...

I wonder whose idea it was for Derick to start a Gofundme account. Derick’s? Jim Bob’s? Grandma’s? Could’ve been anyone in the family of no shame. I have to hand it to Derick, though. I really didn’t think ANYONE could outdo the Deadbeat Duggars. Derick proved me wrong.
Like the other Southern Baptists on the thread stated, this is NOT how we do things! So Derick either was raised as a grifter (like Jill) or he became one - perhaps during his freewheeling college days. He really, really needs “a good talking-to”. It’s a shame that his father is not here to give him one.

Lisa Mcginess said...

I am sure all those who are giving derrick are phoney donations? look at the names? I even wonder if Jim bod is made at him for saying those things and getting kicked off the show? Is JIll off the show? I wonder if Jill is made at derrick for saying those things? wonder if they are having marriage issues?

Nickel pickles said...

Radar online is saying josh Duggar is finished with therapy and a changed man according to a family friend? Wonder who family friend is?

Stephanie said...

I don’t know Diana

Maybe Jimbob wanted a sacrificial lamb to comment about Jazz. We all know that they all feel the same way as Derick but Derick was the doofus that said it publicly, and maybe they were ALL in on this.

I notice Ben nor Jeremy volunteered for such an assignment.

Why are they begging for money? Jill has been on a hit reality TV show for TEN years, she should have money in the bank unless Jimbob never paid her.

If these financial questions keep coming up, maybe finally a reporter will ask JB how he has divided the money for the kids all these years.
OR
This just came to me, MAYBE Derick wants to know where Jill’s money is and he’s trying to shame Jimbob publicly saying what I just said. Maybe Derick wants some answers too “where is my wife’s money that she worked out supporting your family?”
I think it’s the first scenari, Derick was the dummy that ran his mouth.

Stephanie said...

Ok yes, Derick hasn’t worked BUT where is Jill’s TV money she earned growing up? Where is the money THEY earned since their wedding/baby specials? Where is the tens of thousands from magazine articles, in particular after the Josh scandal they were everywhere. Her and Derick were married, where is their money?
They don’t have to pay for rent

Freda said...

Jill is posting for people to give to her husband's gofundme.

Freda said...

Maybe the family friend who is saying Josh is a changed man is Sierra Jo Dominguez. She tends to get her nose in everywhere....especially if she is getting paid (so she can claim she is a stay-at-home Mother, don't you know.)

Freda said...

Thereason I think Derick Dillard sat on the other side at the wedding is because it was easier, since TLC was filming and didn't want to have to put those sunbeams on him like they did Josh.

Freda said...

Didn't Kill and Derick have many more People magazine photos and stories than the other kids. People magazine documented every detail of their lives together, including when Izzy came along. That isn't chicken feed.

Where did that money go?

Esther said...

It is unbelievable that people are donating to scam artist Dillard. What's wrong with people? There are so many poor & unfortunate people who truly need money, those who have serious illnesses, elderly people suck in poverty, so many on Gofundme who are in desperate situations. And then there is Derick, living the life of luxury with a college education, refusing to work and people are giving him their hard earned money, enabling him to remain unemployed, taking trips, buying himself expensive stuff Trump socks and showing pics of himself cooking steak for dinner. Wake up people...why encourage this beggar? If you want to donate, give it to someone who has had real hardships....hurricane victims and sick children, etc.

Darlene said...

Jill and Derick gotta have lots of money in the bank from TLC shows. They have been living free for years. Derick is so unappealing on every level. He's not a good looking, full of great personality man....just the opposite. A dirty looking, rude know it all, unemployed person who has even put down his 2 year old sad looking son and is not really living the Christian life he brags about. Jill is simply a dumb, uneducated girl who appears to have the experience in life of a 12 year old who goes along with whatever her "wonderful" headship does. She's been trained not to think for herself, a perfect mate for Derick and he knew that when he married her. I am certain he had his plans for a future of celebrity and free stuff forever by marrying the most clueless of the Duggar girls. I have to believe Jimbob is not happy with Derick.

Lisa Mcginess said...

do not fool yourselves no on is giving derick money it is all coming from fake people go to his go fund me page and check out the names and you will see? one picture with the name Jim bod Jennings looks like JIm bod and Michelle? they are giving the money and on the last update Derrick thank Josh and Anna for giving him money? so it is all phoney?

Heart in Florida said...

I'll tell you where the Dillard TV money is.....right there in the bank in investment accounts and growing with interest by the day. Why touch YOUR OWN assets when others will give you theirs? Pretty smart if you ask me. Derick has had accounting classes in college and he knows how to 'hide' the cash so the IRS doesn't tax it.

betsy said...

I also think the only donations are from Jill, Derick, his mother and maybe some Duggar family members. It's all a big scam run by Derick. Pay me and I'll help people..pretty much what he says in his gofundme begging. I'm getting so angry at this very phony man.

Marla Ann said...

People help out of the kindness and charity of their hearts. They do not say "give me money ad then I will help the less fortunate". Is that what the bible says....pay people to help others?? All of the people donating to Derick, if there are actual people other them himself, Jill and family members giving this able bodied man, who could get a job, money.

Grandma Wagner said...

I am so disgusted with the Duggars. Dilard is the last straw. He's a vile man scamming stupid people into paying his way in life. Hope donations are all from his family as I hate to think of ordinary, hard working people giving this scammer money to buy his next steak or pair of Trump socks.

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