Free Discussion, November, 2019

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161 comments:

laura said...

I hear November is when the litter is due.
Meaning next summer it will be aired in tlc episodes.
Kendra says #2 will be a breeze.
Evident by now the MO of the 2nd generation. Bonding, proper raising and education of humans is not necessary.
Being pregnant at all possible times is.
It's just insane.

Sharyn said...

Jill posted on Instagram a cute picture of her boys trick-or-treating and the comments are off the scale! The fundies are chiding her for betraying her beliefs!

colen said...

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-7639597/Jill-Duggar-kids-dressed-Halloween-costumes-despite-parents-banning-it.html

Maybe Jill will take her boys trick or treating next year.

got2bdrc said...

They should dress up like Bible characters and go from house treating neighbors to a short hymn. The kids could be Esau and Jacob, Jill might be Ruth. Derrick, of course, will be the jawbone of an add.

Mickey2942 said...

I thought that "Halloween" was a sinful, pagan holiday that is not recognized by fundamentalist Christians. Of course, it seems like the Duggar clan is quite flexible on religion when it comes to getting free stuff. Like when they all dressed up as pirates, to get free Krispy Kreme donuts.

Kate said...

I don’t think that we should be chiding any of the Duggar children for any of the baby steps they are taking to break away from the lifetime of brainwashing by their parents into the Gothard ways. Some of them are slowly moving away from the cult in which they were raised and never had the opportunity to grow up and mature or learn critical thinking skills. Hence they are now 20-somethings trying to navigate a scary new world.

DeeLee said...

Yes finally I see a few of the adult Duggar kids beginning to break free from the chains binding them within the fundie Gothard Cult. Specifically Jinger & maybe Jill. Although I think it will take some time for Joseph,Josiah & JoyAnna. I just don’t see Josh & Anna ever braking free the are too brainwashed not only by JB but by Anna’s Dad as well. I think that John David & Abbie are already breaking free.

Shelli said...

So Jed is running for office in NW Arkansas. What a silly little boy. He still works and lives under his father’s rule. Maybe if he moved out and started acting like an adult then maybe people might take him seriously. Jim Bob is definitely the puppet master behind this one. We know Jed’s allowance won’t cover the campaign costs so someone has to bankrolling this. This actually explains why Jed has been allowed to be on social media lately. I’m sure a courtship will be announced soon; he needs to have a proper “godly” wife to drag around to campaign rallies. Nothing like a 20 yr old family man to bring in those votes.
For an interesting (although not really) read Jed’s views on social issues. He seems to think that Constitutional rights are “God given”. I’m sure Thomas Jefferson will be pleased to know the Duggars have decided his views on the separation of church and state are crap.

Levy said...

Seriously come on Jed living at home & running for office it’s laughable on so many levels. He’s definitely under educated & his knowledge of the law is really skewed. Throughout the USA most people are aware of the Duggar’s via their reality show. Most realize the Duggar’s are in a Cult & do not live in a realistic world. I doubt Jed will win an election.

Bloom said...

The delusional Duggar’s just keep on don’t they... They only accept people who believe as they do. Demean others whose choices in life are not in line with the Duggar’s. It’s clear the Duggar’s live an elitist lifestyle. They aren’t smart & the men minimize women & female children. Jed running for office will never succeed.

Size said...

Posted on Internet Jed Duggar’s opponent is qualified as opposed to Jed who isn’t. Duggar’s platform is pro life & pro guns. Not surprised. Just don’t see Jed as a Arkansas State Rep.

laura said...

Its always weirds me out how the ani abortions are pro guns. Guns were made specifically to kill. Guns are used to kill. Humans die every single day by the hand of other humans. Gun violence is abhorrent, frequent and unchecked. To me pro guns people support school shootings, gangs and cops who senselessly kill civilains or vice versa. Once again the duggar have made a hypocrisy of themselves. This is not a political statement it is only a fly by of the reality of how guns are used.

Mommy in PA said...

Kendra and Joe's baby girl is here. I like her name Addison Renee.

Heart in Florida said...

How would Jed explain running for public office 'like an adult' yet he sleeps with the other boys in the dormitory including his 10 year old cousin? A grown man does not live like this, sorry. I don't care how Godly of a lifestyle they say it is..Jed has no adult experience, he never held a real job outside from working for his father, which isn't a 'real job' as it's working Duggar-style. He also has never been in a classroom, been on a date, held a girl's hand NOR has he ever been allowed to touch a female and have a private conversation with her that wasn't his sister. This man-child also is under the umbrella of his father and perhaps must vote like his daddy tells him to. The real person sitting in that political seat making the decisions would be Jim Bob Duggar. It goes along with their beliefs. Unmarried adult children still are children and need to obey their parents every word. Not a politician in the least. This is laughable and I feel badly for Jed because I"m sure he's running at the 'encouragement' of his father. A state rep represents ALL OF THE CONSTITUENTS in their district....gay, straight, trans, those married and those living in sin, working single females, guys and girls in school, etc. He knows nothing about representing the whole people.

Levy said...

Yes fundamentalist “pseudo” Christians I am always dubious. Because they always appear to twist & turn the messages of the Bible to suit their purpose & then instill fear into parishioners. They basically believe that they think for God. I always thought how egotistical & rude. Yes the Duggar’s always seem to be flexible re religion & definitely to obtain free stuff. Basically hypocrite behavior personified.

DeeLee said...

OMG so true the way in which anti abortionists are pro guns. It’s an oxymoron. Geez!!

Sparkey said...

Poor Jed he doesn’t know any better. He’s JB’s puppet. I feel sorry for Jed as his opponent will have a field day with him. Jed’s lack of verbal skills & knowledge of people of all types in general will be his demise.

Beyond said...

In Arkansas there aren’t enough Fundie’s to elect Jed Duggar.

colen said...

Went to Jed's political sight...and my internet security warned me.

Mickey2942 said...

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-7647913/19-Kids-Countings-Jed-Duggar-20-launches-run-Arkansas-House-Representatives.html

Umm, seriously? Boy who never left home, still sleeps with little brothers, has never had a job, or gone to school...he loves guns, hates abortion. Anything else? Or is that enough?

Enough said.

sandi said...

I suspect Jed's running is more to get the Duggar name out there in the political arena again.Good luck with that.Jmo

got2bdrc said...

John David is an elected constable, elected while he was a young single man living at home.

roddma said...

On the October thread posters mentioned how the Bates weren't as dysfunctional and Gil is more progressive. Uh,nope. The Bateses are every bit as dysfunctional still taking away many opportunities for their kids and placed the responsibility of the babies on the older girls. Gil is not progessive as long as he sits on the board at ATI. Having 19 kids isn't smart when you don't have a means to provide for them.

Ms. Sadie said...

Kendra had her baby ..... does this mean in 6 months TLC will air the birth and expect us to sit on the edge of our couches watching with baited-breath??

Levy said...

Within 6 months Kendra will probably be pregnant with number 3. Because pregnancy in the Duggar family is a game & a race. Children are just an after thought.

Sparkey said...

Intelligent & educated people will never vote for a Duggar.

Bloom said...

Gil Bates just seems to hide his fundie beliefs better than Jim
Bob Duggar. BTW I believe Brandon one of Gil’s son in laws is employed with the ATI??

laura said...

Maybe this will actually be a wake up call to them how far removed they are from reality and society in general.

Bee said...

Regarding Anna Duggar why does she always appear as one with a vacant mindset? Never appears happy. Never comfortable with her surroundings.

Sparkey said...

Now that Jed running for office, has Jim Bob procured a potential spouse for Jed? One woman who will look adoringly at Jed & nod her head with every word spoken by Jed? One woman who is enthralled with pregnancy? Because to become a Duggar wife it’s paramount the woman’s focus is continual pregnancies.

sandi said...

There's a pretty big gap between being a constable,like John David,and an Arkansas State Rep.

laura said...

Just watched promo for the new season.
Why do they always act so surprised when one gets pregnant when that is literally all they try to do? Weird.
Why does Jeremy talk like that?
Why doesn't him boob realize how incompetent he is when he says he hopes no one ends up in the hospital while baby sitting?
Im actively trying to find a way to watch even one episode but I don't have cable and tlc makes it impossible to watch even which is annoying because we know everything anyways because all those nitwits are obsessed with social media and telling is everything.
What exactly is the point of having a show then?
M

Mia said...

Holy crap, did everybody see the type of game the Duggars play at their parties? Yeh, that "He or She" (gender guessing) game was just about the stupidest thing they have ever done. Even the little kids were expected to play - and know HOW to play such a thing.
WHY is this dead horse still around? Guessing it's because the Duggars were on television for so long that people really got to know the kids and had their family favorites. I'm kinda hoping the new family (the Plath family) will take the place of the Duggars. But I dunno...the parents are super weird, especially the father. Still, how many gender reveals can COUNTING ON do?

On a different note, I am really concerned for Anna and all those kids she insists on having. Josh only wanted 2 or 3 children, so I see trouble there. It's too much pressure on a man who has no real job. I really look for Josh to have a midlife crisis one day. I just don't think we've heard the last of him. I hope I'm wrong but he just has always been the one straining against the bit.

Bloom said...

If Josh said he only wanted 2 or 3 kids then why didn’t he make Anna get on birth control? Unless Jm Bob is controlling that marriage. JB has nothing better to do with his time other than interfere with the lives of his married kids. During the camping promo I laughed when JB fell into the water. Each episode the Counting On program becomes more boring slipping into repetitive nonsense.

Margie said...

Poor Anna has been raised to think one more pregnancy is the solution to all her problems and give her the perfect, happy marriage. If Josh goes off on a midlife crisis and dumps her, she'll be on her own with 6 (possibly more) kids and no support system. I'm sure her parents plus JB & M would turn their backs and refuse to help. The breakup of marriage always turns out to be the fundie wife's fault. I think Josh has a bigger appetite for "sandwiches" than Anna could ever put out.

Mia said...

Agree. I don't know why I think this but I kind of expect Josh to really go crazy, especially if Jim Bob kicks the bucket any time soon. People still ask who will be the rebellious child. Well, I think we've already seen him! Josh went against everything he was taught and I have never believed that he was contrite. I don't think he believes he did anything wrong - present tense.

Levy said...

In the past while watching 19K I was always amazed when Josh would attempt to provide his ignorant advice to viewers. Here was Josh with zero experience outside of his fundie home imparting advice. My friends & I enjoyed a hearty laugh. Josh so clueless as to the way viewers perceived him. Josh has always been full of himself & considers himself to be the prince of the Duggar family. Such a doofus.

Z said...

In the USA divorce rate is high. I just don’t see these arranged marriages lasting. I won’t be surprised if Josh leaves Anna. Josh never seemed as if he was in love with Anna. However because of the Cult Anna will never leave Josh. Josh stay married & cheat until the cows come home & yet Anna will never leave him she would probably continue to have kids with him. So in the end Josh would have the best of both worlds. Such a sick situation.

Bee said...

Clearly it’s was JB & Mr Keller who arranged the marriage of Josh & Anna.

Gem said...

During an old episode of 19K I remember Josh saying he hated dating. However he had never been on a date. I thought what an incredible addle Fool!!!

Jenny Wren said...

On Anna Duggar's Twitter page, she has a picture posted of the Duggars visit to the Brady Bunch house in CA.

Bee said...

Actually the 1st time Josh cheated he in a way dumped Anna. I am convinced that JB & Mr Keller Forced Anna & Josh back together. In fact Anna May have been threatened by JB & Mr Keller. Anna as gone from a nice home near DC to living in the Duggar girls dorm with her kids to living in what is a makeshift sort of guest house on the Duggar compound. It must play havoc with Anna’s mind knowing her kids & she really have no home to call their own a big thanks to Josh for cheating causing the loss of his job in DC & for his selfish behavior.

Gem said...

Just watched the 11/06 episode of BUB. Just as the Duggar’s, another pregnancy was announced this time Zach & Whitney expecting a daughter. IMO these 2 shows are becoming so predictable & not interesting. Both TLC & UP need new material & program directors.

Beyond said...

After Josh cheated & was sent packing into the fundie rehab I don’t believe the rehab was a success. I think Josh was forced into rehab & went under duress. Josh age 31 no job, arranged marriage & almost 6 kids, no real home. Got to mess with his head.

Z said...

Does anyone remember the Loyalty Song Josh sang to Anna & his wedding? Yeah right, Loyalty. Not so much.

Z said...

Any woman with a modicum of self respect would have long ago left & divorced Josh Duggar.

DeeLee said...

Apparently Josh still behaves with a pious attitude he believes that he is a catch that Anna should be grateful & honored he chose her. So rehab did nothing for Josh. No humility for Josh.

Georgia Girl said...

Previous episodes have shown the Duggars cooking turkey bacon instead of regular bacon. They claim they do not permit themselves to eat port prodcuts. However, the last episode showed Kendra cooking regular bacon in a frying pan. I wonder if it now allowed under the new couple's eating rules, and eating it regardless of JB and M's edict of not eating pork products.

Bloom said...

I bet Josh’s former employer Family Research Center after firing Josh had to do some serious damage control. I bet the FRC regrets not doing a background check on Josh. With only a GED why did the FRC hire Josh? The majority of FRC employees are college educated. Perhaps the FRC believed hiring Josh & the Duggar’s reality show would provide more national exposure for their org. It backfired.

sandi said...

Zach and Whitney had the baby yesterday.BUB is 9 months behind

laura said...

Wonder if the constant stupid hair bows on female duggar of any age is more of a gender identification thing. Do they want to make sure everyone knows its a girl?

Bee said...

Ha ha here we go again a gender reveal of a child already born. Good grief these fundies are a trip.

Beyond said...

It was Jim Bob who contacted the FRC & suggested his son Josh would be one who could give the org more exposure. Once again JB exercising poor self absorbed judgment.

Gem said...

Maybe the college educated employees of the FRC saw Josh with his GED certificate mounted on his office wall as a complete immature joke..

Aunt Bea said...

Great eye catch about the regular bacon Kendra cooked..
We all suspected that the FRC hired Josh SOLEY because of the show. Plain and simple. The Duggars' own platitude that "your sins shall find you out'...came back to bite them in the behind. They need to be careful when they're 'preaching' on TV. So, their insular lifestyle does NOT produce perfect children after all.

Mickey2942 said...

Anna does not "think". She focuses on prayer, raising children and making sandwiches for her husband. Her husband does the "thinking" for her. She can just go happily to do laundry, cooking, cleaning, exercising. No reading. No depression. Prayer will solve everything. Of course.

Done with Duggars said...

It seems that many viewers feel the worst isn't over with Josh's behavior. Why would anyone be surprised that Josh's time at the rehab doesn't seem to have made a significant change in him? This was a "fundie rehab" according to various reports. In fact,the Duggars themselves have stated, that they sent him to work construction with another "friend " of the family. Just how does that equate with a professional counseling facility, with highly educated & skilled counselors, working one on one with a husband who has cheated on his wife & children, up to & including contacting prostitutes, while professing to be a dedicated Christian, loving husband & devoted father. Just who was this carpenter? Probably not the "Carpenter" many of us think of in connection with the Christian religion.

Levy said...

The fact that Josh was sent into construction vs a valid rehab place is not a surprise. This just further demonstrates Jim Bobs hate for educated therapists who are not fundies is paramount. Josh is not rehabilitated He’s still sick & will probably re-offend against Anna & his kids. The Duggar’s are all about the show. The so called Christian aspect is just a facade it’s always been a facade that will never change.

Bee said...

Josh lives in pretend land. He’s too self absorbed to think otherwise. He’s also too lazy too actually get a job believing the world should come to him. Delusional.

Ellie On a Roll said...

Nurie Rodriguez is now engaged to Anna Duggar’s brother, Nathan. I hope TLC gives them a one hour wedding special because that would be RATINGS GOLD!!!!

laura said...

I saw nuries grad pictures. She looked nice, def underweight....and she was posing with a Bible. For her high school graduation.
Jrod posted a pic of her smiling at a funeral for 3 very young siblings.
Extremely distasteful that one.
Poor nurie sold off to another undoubtedly controlling religious extremist.
Its amazing how many parents think they are doing the right thing for their kids but are really off their rockers.
For anyone thinking one of the kids will go rogue and write a book or escape does not think of thenl psychological hold the parents have on them. It will never happen. And no. Jinger is not free either.

laura said...

It is very simple. There is no cure for sexual deviance be it pedophilia, predatory behavior, sexual entitlement, abuse of any kind. There is no treatment, medication or 100% cure. They just learn how to hide it better and these people feel no remorse whatsoever. This is not my opinion this is reality.

Mickey2942 said...

I think that this family buys whatever is on sale in bulk packages. As for the "Turkey bacon" JB probably got a free case when he promised to promote it on his show. I think JB squeezes a penny so hard it screams. He has probably been social promoting all sorts of things on TLC for extra cash, or free stuff.

Mickey2942 said...

That works in probably a very functional dysfunctional relationship, because he is married to Anna, who lives in another world in her head, where Josh loves her, and is happily married to her "true love" match. Delusional doesn't even begin to describe it.

Give me a break said...

We should have known Lauren had her baby....Jessa posted a bunch of pictures of Ivy. She wouldn’t want anyone getting more attention than her or one of her children.

Mommy in PA said...

Josiah and Lauren's baby girl Bella Milagro Duggar is here. Looks like Lauren was smart enough to opt for a hospital birth based on the IG pics.

Deem said...

So soon Counting On will announce Lauren’s expecting & another gender reveal of a child already born. When will TLC wake up?

Deem said...

Not surprised Lauren gave birth in a hospital as did her Mom.

Sadie said...

Is it just coincidence....Lauren and Josiah named their first baby Asa, second one Bella...are they going for an alphabet theme?? Will the next one start with a C?

Just remember said...

Re:comment from Mickey2942 about Jim Bob squeezing a penny so hard it screams. I remember well many episodes ago, when Michelle made the comment that Jim Bob had a friend that said Jim Bob is so tight, when he walks he squeaks! On another subject many people think that Jim Bob doesn't want to pay for professional counseling or that he is against highly educated counselors. I believe he's actually afraid of what his children might tell these counselors. It wasn't until the older kids were married & out of the house that we started hearing that there was never enough food for everyone in the Duggar home. If you wanted to eat you had to grab your food & lock yourself in the bathroom to eat. The kids also slept on the staircase, they didn't have a routine bedtime & often went to bed after midnight, sleeping on the staircase, not in clean beds etc. Also,it wasn't their mom who was doing the homeschooling & there were laws about who could homeschool the children & it wasn't their siblings, teenage girls. Suppose one of the girls talked about being molested? If a counselor heard this with many more young children remaining in the home certainly they would be investigating. The are definitely things that Jim Bob would never want any counselor to hear.

Good Grief said...

Can anyone deny that Michelle & Jim Bob are back for good, giving their advice in the headshots? They are even reminiscing about when Josie was born. How many viewers expected this outcome? I did! Watch for Josh to eventually become an important part of the show. After all he's always had a great deal of good advise for viewers.

Deem said...

Watched the Duggar camping trip. Laughed when JB fell into the water.

Levy said...

As usual Jessa was annoying during the Duggar camping trip.

Winter said...

Has Jim bob always been referred to as “Pops”? The first time I heard it was at Jessa’s wedding, but now hear it in birthday wishes and Josiah mentioned it in the episode tonight

Willow said...

I think JB and Michelle just could not stand being off the show. They lost their show and the new one was supposedly just about the kids, but daddy and mommy were just too jealous (IMO). So far, the new viewing numbers are not any better with them back on the show. I agree with the previous poster, JOSH will be back by next season if not before. I don't care if Jeremy does want to be a big time TV preacher/celebrity, whatever. At least he is not hanging around the compound obeying every thing JB tells him for an allowance.

Unknown said...

I agree with what people are saying about BB and Mechelle being back because of their egos, but I also think it has to do with money. There is a lot of speculation that JB and Mechelle have controlled the purse strings for their adult children, but I'm not so sure. I think that the husbands of the married daughters might be pushing for their own paycheck (well at least Jeremy and also Derick when they were on the show). I think it's just the Duggar adult boys and Ben who possibly haven't been able to get their money out of JB's greedy fist. If the adult kids are starting to get their own paycheck, then JB and Mechelle (even though they actually have...at least at one time) a lot of money from the show and real estate might be needing/wanting more. All of these weddings and feeding a family of this size, medical etc., traveling can get quite expensive. I mean, just fueling those planes that John David flies them around in can be expensive. Just my thoughts.

Ellie On a Roll said...

Dear Lord! Dillweed is having a public rant/meltdown on Instagram! I’m surprised he didn’t spill the beans sooner on what a crook JimBob Duggar is in real life!This is not going to end well.

Maple said...

Was Joy Anna in Jill's Buddy group? Could Austin and Joy be choosing not to film due to Jill getting "fired" from filming? I could also see Austin saying no to Jim Bob over the corny plots and not wanting to go through the motions if they aren't getting any money for it.

Aimee said...

To all those wondering where Joy and Austin are this season, I think they filmed less because they have real jobs flipping houses and then also working at his parents campground. I am guessing they keep their camper there so are farther away from the Big House than those who seem to be there constantly. ---- Also, I felt it was in very poor taste for Josiah/Lauren to name their baby Bella as Joy/Austin's daughter is Annabell. I know it's not quite the same name but it's close and I would think it could feel hurtful to have it be such a similar sounding name especially considering the baby is gone.

sandi said...

Even though Michelle made Jinger cry,and had a sheepish grin over her wearing pants,I suspect she will keep wearing them.Jeremy, her headship, will need for them to be relatable to the public,if he wants to bring in lots of members to his congregation,eventually.
If the Duggars don't like Jinger wearing pants,it's their own fault for choosing a husband that allows her to do so.And that is according to their own authority structure.They handed over their authority to him,so they have no one but themselves to blame,and should just be quiet about it.Jmo

Aunt Bea said...

Ellie, what is Derick saying about Jim Bob?

Willow] said...

I just wish we did know more about how they are paid, etc. I know many years ago it was rumored that JB was the "agent" for the adults and therefore got commission. Would that mean he takes a "percentage" off the top when he negotiates what he pays them? Its just so un-natural when adults try to control other adults. Let each adult negotiate their own paychecks - or at least the married ones anyway. Maybe they think if they just have one paycheck there would be no hard feelings about air time etc. I am pretty sure the Bates family only gets one paycheck also. What do any of you know about this subject. I find it so fascinating.

Stephanie said...

Regarding Anna having a 6th child. Putting apart all the other ridiculousness of their situation I’m calling out the practical. I had twins 25 years ago and four years later had my daughter. The logistics of going from 2 to 3 kids was a huge change. A table for 5 always has a wait list, hotels are made for a family of four, houses are made for a family of four and cars are made for a family of four. After three kids the next logistical nightmare is the sixth kid and a mini van. Anna will have to go from a packed mini van to a church type passenger van. Yuck. Josh will only have to drive it when they travel but Anna is stuck with that crap all day everyday.
Remember the Duggar’s vans? A car seat for each seat and an older buddy to buckle them up? Michelle hands free and Jimbob was the bus driver. Singing their stupid hymns.

Stephanie said...

When my daughter Was little I always kept bows in her hair just because I like it and I already had twin boys so I enjoyed the girlie stuff. Since the big girls ha e left the house I’ve noticed the little girls aren’t bowed up like they used to be and I think it’s because Michelle is 51 years old and is tired and maybe she doesn’t think it’s a big deal anymore and the big girls aren’t there to do it.

Stephanie said...

Clue number One: He has let a few beans spill. The first mistake he made about JB was when Derick said on camera that Jill told him about eating in the bathroom because she was afraid of not getting enough to eat. Jill’s face dropped when he said those words and I guarantee JB was hot about that being told.
This is my personal speculation regarding the Jazz/Duggar feud. It is a conflict of personal conviction that the Duggar’s make money from the same employer that the Jennings make money on. This is how I think it all went down:
JB: “I’m sure you wondered why I called this meeting. We’ve been called hypocrites again for being on the same network at Transgender Jazz Jennings. We need to make a statement but it’s better if I don’t do it. Michelle can’t do it. None of the Girls can do. So that leaves the sons-in-law. Now which of you dummies is going to speak for the family and take the heat? You know we will all have your back”
Jeremy has been in the world enough to know not to say anything.
Ben is not going to call out TLC (because I thought he was making TLC money, not sure now)
That leaves us Dumb big mouth Derick.

Derick wanted in the good graces of Jimbob and JB is holding all the money so Derick tweeted the statement that got him fired, made him look like the adult man picking on a teenage girl. Derick fell right into that trap.
Then Derick slipped for a moment and said they weren’t paid for the TV show.
Yet still no legit TV reporter has asked about the money the kids have earned on a 12 year hit tv show.

Unknown said...

Maple - I do believe that Joy was in Jill's buddy group.

laura said...

Derick the Tall Child acting out again..
Im dying laughing. This is better entertainment than counting on.
And threatening a television network to 'lawyer up'??? HAHAHAHA.
HILARIOUS his rant is AWESOMELY delirious!!!!!!!
He must be FUMING at having to admit delivering food for cash to support poor inept, immature, unprepared for life jill and his sad as heck looking children while his in-laws bask in luxury.
And if him bob were so tight whyd he have so many kids.
They cost money. Lots of kids means lots of money. No matter what.
As adults too as he insists on attaching a himself like a parasite as permanent fixture of sickening control in their lives.
He is as disgusting as ever. Needs a good dose of reality.
Tightwads dont buy multiple airplanes, rvs, gators, toys this trips that married kids houses etc etc etc.
Boy oh boy derick is always good for a laugh.

Bloom said...

Re Josh retuning to the show oh so cant wait for his stellar incorrect advice no viewers will heed.

colen said...

per " Deem said...
Not surprised Lauren gave birth in a hospital as did her Mom.
11/11/2019 9:25 PM"

I wonder if Lauren has more health problems than Celiac Disease that would encourage a hospital birth.

Levy said...

Duggar’s vs Bates... Many of the older kids are married & with children. However it seems the older Bates boys with the exception of Zac can’t seem to close the deal to court etc.. Guess the next Bates girl to marry will be Katie she’s age 18 so I expect an announcement is possible.

Deem said...

So pseudo Christian Derick threatened the network to “lawyer up”. Guess he’s applying some of the knowledge he’s learned in law school?? Let’s face it Derick has a dumb butt for a father in law. Also working for Grubhub how does Derick afford that nice house? How does Derick afford law school? Jill is under educated not really a mid wife, not trained for anything other than being a wife & Mom that’s all she knows. Derick & Jill not a good match. It’s too bad that Jill can’t help with the finances of the home by working outside of the home. I mean who would employ her? Jill spends most of her time on line vs being a Mom to her 2 sons. The whole Dillard family dynamic is a huge mess.

Beyond said...

Watched BUB. Interesting the Bates girls are opening a on line boutique. At least they are deciding to work vs the Duggar girls who just sit around waiting for the next pregnancy.

Bee said...

Initially re 19K Jim Bob said his family shopped for clothing etc.. at thrift stores. I remember the kids buying used shoes. One should never buy used shoes, hats, under things, & dental products. Jim Bob said the family shopped the cheapest grocery store. I wonder if this behavior still holds true with the Duggar’s?

Willow said...

Yes, Joy was in Jill's buddy group. Joy, James and Jenny.

Jimmy Johns said...

My take on Derik suing TLC and or Jimbob and Michelle:

I’m betting he has proof of abuse of the Duggar children and TLC didn’t report it to authorities. If you recall, he was videotaping on his phone Michelle going from Jekyll to Hyde with Jennifer and that was a shocker. Maybe he does have actual proof of abuse.

Willow said...

Yes, I believe Derick knows things and he was not raised in their cult so he would have less tolerance for the unfair things he has probably seen and heard about. To Derick: You are apparently doing ok without JB or TLC. Write a book!

Mickey2942 said...

The very fact that this TLC show has been on TV for over a decade shows how depressing TV really is. People want to watch a show about a large, dysfunctional family. The myth of the happy Christian family is over. People are just waiting for the train wreck.

sandi said...

Derick couldn't sue for abuse of a minor not his own.It would have to be something about the show,like not getting paid,or TLC dropping Jill and himself from the show.I'm not sure he would have a legit case for either

Downfall on the horizon said...

Some sort of scandal is happening in Duggarville. And who exactly is “cousin Emily”??????

Willow said...

I have seen cousin Emily in pictures numerous times in the last year or so. She appears about the age of maybe Jennifer or Jordyn. I think her dad is in the Duggar side of the family and I think they go to church with the Duggars. Does anyone know any more about this?

sunglasses said...

RE: Who is Emily-

There is an Emily with just Jim bob, one with just her and Michelle, another with just her and Jana one with her, John-David and Jeremiah, one with her, Jessa and Ben, one with her and Anna, Go to this link and watch on the left as you scroll down:
http://theduggarblogs.blogspot.com/2016/06/duggars-with-emily.html

Smiley said...

Emily is the granddaughter of Michelle's sister, Pamela. She's the daughter of Will and Angela Peters, Will Peters co-founded Courageous Men of the Word with Dwain Swanson, Lauren's father.

Emily's mom would be Michelle's first cousin,

Sharla said...

We need to be very careful with unwarranted discussion and speculation stirred up by purely gossip sites that publish lies.

Ellie On a Roll said...

Okay, we’ll.... if CPS, the FBI, IRS, Washington County law enforcement and Tontitown Police department weren’t aware of every possible crime committed by numerous Duggar Family members, they certainly are NOW!!!! Talk about opening the fundie Pandora’s Box!!!!

laura said...

The servant population for the moo and boob has dwindled and so they have sourced new blood from other family members to serve the sub-cult of ibml or ati or whatever weirdness they follow.
Kendra and joes fanily picture is surely wholesome, happy amd healthy looking. Garrett is SU CUTE!!!
even though I strongly disagree with her arranged teen marriage and pregnancy, and she will no doubt overwhelmed in the near future with all of her responsibilities.
I feel very confident she will announce another pregnancy by next june.
The baby race does.not include bonding with the children. Very sad.
And jed refusing to change a diaper but wants to be in charge of womens reproductive rights is so absolutely a great example of why he should not receive a single vote, but WILL due to all the other close-minded control freaks who insert themselves in business that does not concern them.
The fact that he believes he should be elected to a position of power in ANY form is terrifying.
As the years go by we will see the many depths of dysfunction that had been instituted.

Bloom said...

I wonder if Jim Bob now regrets that 2 of his daughters Jill & Jinger married educated men not in the Gothard Cult? Derick has figured out JB & M & has exposed some of their laundry. Jeremy has chosen geography to distance Jinger & he from the Cult. Perhaps Jim Bob now wishes he had arranged Jill & Jinger to meet & marry a fundie boy.. I do not believe that JB control Derick & Jeremy. Jill doesn’t appear or Jinger to be bound for the pregnancy train.

Z said...

I don’t believe Jed will win an election. Jed is too immature & clueless about everything. He’s also uneducated.

Size said...

Law school teaches future lawyers to be objective to think rationally & many are liberal. From what I’ve read about Derick he appears to be going the direction of liberal thinking that’s not a bad thing. Ultra conservative Jim Bob will have a cat. Derick’s choice not Jim Bobs business.

Mickey2942 said...

Still trying to figure out why Baby Jubilee got a full blown funeral, and the other miscarried babies were not named, nor did they merit full blown funerals. If a baby is a baby is a baby...6 weeks miscarriage should merit a full blown funeral.

Just saying.

MuleMan said...


People: Duggar Family Home in Arkansas Raided by Homeland Security Investigations Agents: Report

The Duggar family home was reportedly raided last week

The Duggar family home was reportedly raided by Homeland Security Investigations agents last week amid an “ongoing federal criminal investigation.”

https://people.com/tv/duggar-family-home-raided-by-homeland-security-investigations/

Sunshine said...

It does appear that Homeland Security has confirmed the following. "[I do not dispute the information that] HSI was present there [Duggar home] pursuant to an on-going federal criminal investigation,” a spokesman for Home Security told people magazine.

So it appears that homeland security is investigating someone in the duggar tonitown home in a criminal investigation.

I wonder who and what is going on?

BobS said...

Duggar’s Arkansas Home Raided By Homeland Security Agents, Report Claims

Feds storm property where Josh may live in 'ongoing federal criminal investigation'

https://radaronline.com/exclusives/2019/11/duggars-home-raided-homeland-security-agents-jim-bob-michelle-josh-criminal-investigation/

Mickey2942 said...

https://www.eonline.com/news/1095130/duggar-family-denies-their-home-was-raided-by-homeland-security-investigators

Interesting. Yet the family denies any sort of investigation or raid. Hmmmm....

sandi said...

The articles say Jed says he doesn't live in the Duggar family home.But they're required by JB to live there until marriage.Did they have him move so he could appear to be an independent adult when running for office?

Aimee said...

In the same news articles - Jed was the only one to give a statement and he said "I don't know anything about an investigation as I don't live there." --- SO....where does Jed live? His own place?! I was more surprised at the thought of an unmarried Duggar escaping the Big House than I was an investigation (now disputed investigation)

Linda said...

Jed is planning a run in a local election. He "lives" in a rental property in that district.

Unknown said...

Actually he has moved out. But I still would not vote for him as he is only 20 and has no life experience.

Unknown said...

I just read a correction to the original story regarding the Homeland Security raid. Originally it was said that the raid was on the Duggar home, but later it was amended to read that the raid was actually at the car log where Josh works. At the time it was written it was know clear if the target was Josh or if it was the owner of the car lot. I suspect there will be more about this in the coming days.

Sunny Daze said...

a bit more:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7707759/Homeland-Security-agents-raid-Josh-Duggars-rural-Arkansas-car-dealership.html

laura said...

So everyone is denying something about the raid.
We do know there was a raid somewhere on someone.
It may turn out to be nothing to do with the duggars but of it is, JOsh has screwed over Anna once again.
She has probably already given birth. What a stand up fella.
Moo and boob think they are perfect and their way is the right way.
Evidence points the other way.
I can see him now-pacing back and forth in their bedroom with moo sitting on the bed adoring stare saying everything is alright.
It is right that we sold our children out in arranged marriages, taking their RIGHT of choice away.
It is right that we justify Josh's actions.
It is right that we did not pay proper attention and care to our overly large herd of spawn.
It is right we cant remember our children's birthdays or grandchildrens names.
It is right to make the kids, including very young girls do all of our housework while brainwashing them to call us our best friends and heroes.
It is right that we say one thing and do the opposite.
Boob must be absolutely furious that this could throw a wrench in Jeds election chances.

Levy said...

Just fell off the sofa in shock as JB actually allowed Jed to move from the Duggar home into a rental property. Is this move purely for political gain? What game is JB playing? Again the Duggar deception raises its head.

DeeLee said...

I remember when during 19K John David had bought a house but JB would not permit him to live in the house until he married. I mean JD is an adult. The Duggar Gothard riles so dumb.

Bloom said...

Oh you bet this raid all over the Internet not going to help Jed’s campaign. Again Karma for Jim Bob.

Size said...

Just watched Carlin & Evans wedding pretty bride & dress. Was surprised by the dance as I thought fundies don’t dance.

Deem said...

Jim Bob once quoted the Bible & he said “your sins will find you out”. Yes JB they have.

Sam said...

If Josh has messed over Anna yet again then again she will ting a blind eye & forgive him & pretend away the incident. That’s
not a healthy marriage. I still don’t understand how & why Anna stays in that marriage to Josh. Obviously Anna very much brainwashed.

Akasha said...

Personally I think Josh had child porn. Just an educated guess.

Not a Mocker said...

Did anyone else see the new reason Jill says her and Derrek aren’t on the show anymore?
They decided it was “too much” for their little family and so decided to step away for a few years before the birth of Samuel.

Yeah

Ellie On a Roll said...

Jinger is expecting. There. I said it.

Levy said...

Yes about Josh probably began with JB as he’s always openly hinted about sex. I think both JB & Josh have serious issues about illicit things.

Michaela said...

Looks like Jinger has rebranded her FB page. I get the feeling they’re trying to distance themselves from the Duggar stink cloud and scandalous lifestyle back in Arkansas. Someone must have given them some advice PR wise, to distance themselves from the criminal. Immoral behavior of the Duggar cult. I have a feeling she may be doing something on her own like a blog, or 1/2 hour lifestyle show.

Alyssa said...

The distancing has begun. Both Jinger and Jeremy have edited their Facebook pages. Very obvious the lack of any Duggar family pictures on Jeremy’s page speaks volumes. 1 photo of Izzy, 1 group photo of Joy, Jessa, Janna and Spurge, and a couple of Joy and Austin. Yep, I’d say there’s something criminal/sexual that’s going to come out about the Duggars clan. Especially the Duggar men/boys. And frankly, I don’t blame the Vuluo’s from distancing themselves from this disgusting cultish clan!

Sierra said...

Anna’s Mother is staying with them to help with the grandchildren during the last days of her pregnancy and to help after M6 is born. I suppose Ma and Pa Duggar don’t allow the lost girls over to help and God knows Emily can’t do it all herself. All the other Duggar women (Jessa, Lauren, Kendra, Amy) are too busy with their own newborns. Jessa’s an LA girl now and Austin/JD would never let Abbie/Joy that close to Josh alone. So I guess that leaves Anna’s mom, Dr. Jill, nomedicine woman and Mechelle to help birth that blessing. Let’s hope for Anna and M6 that this goes well.

Mickey2942 said...

https://www.romper.com/p/jessa-duggars-husbands-reaction-to-her-amazon-shopping-spree-was-priceless-19377704

As far as I know, Jessa nor Ben Seewald has ever had a job, worked, finished any type of training program. They lump around the compound. Three children...probably another one on the way...when will the bubble pop?

Z said...

Josh & Anna’s marriage is one of convenience for JB & M it’s all a huge Facade. It’s too bad the children are the real victims of this ruse.

Gem said...

I thought Ben was working to complete his college degree on line???

Joanna said...

I just a post about the courtship of Jason Duggar and Lauren Caldwell. I don’t believe that it’s true. What parent in their right mind would allow their child to marry into the disgraced, disgusting Duggar family????

Levy said...

Well apparently Mr Caldwell is in favor of a Jason & Lauren courtship as his oldest daughter Kendra married Joseph.

Willow said...

The Caldwells have already allowed a daughter, Kendra, into the Duggar family. Ben had a couple of jobs before he married Jessa. He got a two-year AA degree in a subject I can't remember, but they showed his graduation on the show. Since then, however, it appears he only does odd jobs (now teaching homeschool) for JB. I also heard a long time ago that he was taking online classes, I think in Theology, but we haven't heard a word about that in a long time. I don't think he can focus well - just my opinion. As for Jessa, I just can't even go there this morning, lol. Maybe she likes Ben to be close to home all day.

Ellie On a Roll said...

I just watched the 2 part birth episode for Kendra and Joe. Kendra’s mom is a Godsend! Absolutely wonderful to have in the labor and delivery room. I was so happy Michele wasn’t included in the labor and delivery. She adds so much stress to every scene she’s in that I’m glad for Kendra that she didn’t have to deal with Michelle until after the baby was delivered. I was also happy that Jessa didn’t barge in with a big stroller and 2 germs toddlers.

Y2K said...

Jason younger than Jer & Jed is allowed to court he is probably just into his 20’s & should be in college or a trade school. Geez JB so anxious to marry off his older boys. Just disgusting.

Bee said...

So how many Duggar babies are now born this Nov?

Beyond said...

The Duggar’s so overly obsessed with marrying their kids & quick pregnancies. Too bad for JB & M education is a distant bell, very selfish & cruel.

Y2K said...

Just learned Trace Bates is courting Cheney Grace. She’s from Texas. So next season we will probably see an engagement, wedding & soon a child on the way as is typical in the fundie way of life. Yawn!!

Aunt Bea said...

Kendra's doctor was delivering another baby and didn't make it to her delivery? Don't most obs docs have partners in their practice that cover when the attending physician can't be there? I find that strange that her doc has no partners. Anyone know if she saw an obstetrician? None of them are solo practitioners for this very reason.

Gem said...

So far JB & M now have 17 grandchildren. When Abbie delivers this January 2020 they will have 18. So guess as JB stated he may get 100 grandkids.

Gem said...

I believe the Bates have 13 grandchildren & when Carlin gives birth in February will have 14.

Willow said...

Aunt Bea - I agree about the doctors' partners etc. The same thing happen to me many years ago. I had to wait until my doctor got there from the golf course - for real. All the jokes about doctors golfing are true, lol.

Special Ed Lady said...

Josh and Anna had a healthy baby girl. Marryelle Hope Duggar

sandi said...

I picture steam coming out of JB's ears,should the Bates surpass him in the number of grandkids.LOL

Mommy in PA said...

Looks like Josh and Anna honored Grandma Duggar by incorporating her name with their new baby. They named her Maryella.

zebracrossing said...

Soon they can change the name of the show to "19 Grandkids and Counting"

Mickey2942 said...

https://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-moms/news/anna-josh-duggar-welcome-baby-no-6-a-daughter/

Why do I just feel sad for Anna? She was like a sacrificial lamb. Her job is to just keep smiling.

Beyond said...

So far my favorite Duggar couple is John David & Abbie both seem genuine, level headed & mature as well as likable.

Least favorite is Ben & Jessa. Jessa is basically the female version of Jim Bob & that’s not a compliment. Although I feel sorry for Ben. Jessa always so desperate to be in front of the camera she’s also narcissistic as is JB.

Bloom said...

Anna is clearly one who is 200% brainwashed & will always behave as a person who projects an attitude of a servant. Anna will always without question Obey Josh, JB & Mr Keller. Anna has no life other than to continually produce babies. She’s just one who cannot think for herself. Basically Anna is abused it’s just so sad.

Z said...

One day the fact that JB & M decided to prevent their kids from a college or trade school education will backfire on them. It won’t be possible for the Duggar young men to always work for JB on the Duggar compound as Counting On won’t be around forever.

Just Me said...

Re:Gem's comment about JB stating he could have 100 grandchildren. Sight correction there. He has always said he could definitely have 200 grandchildren. Now there's something you would want your children to strive for. I don't believe he's panning on supporting all these grandchildren. That will be left up to the uneducated, car lot workers & handyman parents.

Judy said...

So now do Duggar biological women get full birth episodes on TLC and their lowly sisters-in-law get small twenty minute "episodes" on line? Too bad, if true.

Judy said...

They will easily have 100 grandchildren even if a few of the kids, like Jill and Jinger opt for smaller families. "Smaller" will probably be somewhere around 4-5 kids and all the others are so young that they will just keep having them like Anna, about every other year for their entire childbearing years. They get married at 20 and could be pregnant through 45 or 6. That's a LOT of babies x 16 or 17

Sparkey said...

Basically Anna is a puppet & Josh & JB pull the strings.

Unknown said...

Michelle is 53, I think.