Jordyn-Grace's birth new episode Dec 22

We're supposed to have the birth episode at 10 eastern and pacific on Monday, December 22.

65 comments:

Jill said...

So was that a typo or is it really on at 10pm both eastern and pacific times? I really appreciate this website!

Sharla said...

As far as I've heard and please check your local listings, it's 10 pm on the coasts with the standard adjustments for central and mountain. It's showing on my digital guide - finally.

Anonymous said...

It may not be showing on everyone's guide yet since the baby was only born on Thursday and this is sort of an impromptu episode. It may still say that that slot is a Jon & Kate + 8 episode right now.

Maggie said...

I must say Michelle looks really good for 5 weeks out of her 18th child.

Johannah is my favorite forever, she is adorable.

fostersmom said...

As much as I loved to bag on this family when I first saw the original specials, they have really become much more "normal" to me during this series. I still don't agree with their religion or the degree in which they shelter their kids, but the kids seem more and more like any kids in any family these days. Gone are the "prairie muffin" days where you had to wonder if the kids even knew how the majority of the country lived. I do wonder if this "evolution" of sorts would have happened if they weren't involved with television, but it seems to have worked out for them.

Jim S said...

I agree with you FosterMom--I still don't like Jim Bob and Josiah's an obnxious little prig in training, but they seem much more relaxed than they used to be. Simple things like Jinger's ever-present eye-rolling and a more relaxed wardrobe (as least in terms of shirts and tops for the girls) are making them much more appealing. Whether intended or incidental, it's welcome and makes the other stuff more bearable.

dotsicle said...

I enjoy the Duggars a lot. I am Christian but don't agree with everything their denomination teaches; however , they seem to live what they believe and it's not just lip service. The so-called "sheltering" of the kids doesn't bother me in the least. It irks the heck out of me when the women's-libbers moan that the girls "have no CHOICES"; what "choices" are so important that it will ruin their lives if they don't get to make them?
i love Jinger's eye-rolls! Too funny!

Lilibet said...

Yes, I caught the episode last night.

I know what people say about this family. BUT last night when Jim & Michelle were at the birthing class I really loved her attitude. That no matter how many children she has she can always learn something new and very helpful & enlightening.
My description does not really do it justice & it's better to see the show.

Good luck to them!

Jinger, Go Girl ! said...

I watched the new baby episode last night.

Got a chuckle out of the part where the family was sitting around in a circle having a "vote" on the new baby name.

Jim-Bob said something like "we can save those names for grandchildren"....
and then Jinger (the one he taught to drive) ROLLED HER EYES in a very obvious display of disagreement.

I wonder what she was disagreeing with....the name, or the fact that they are expected to pop out grandkids asap.

Either way, gotta love that Jinger's spunk ! I predict she will be the rebel and follow her own path in life !

Aunt Bee said...

I loved the fact that Jim-Bob wanted Michelle to have some nice, new baby items, and was paying for this HIMSELF. Some other family we know would have gotten all that for freeeeeeeeeee and made an infomercial out of it.

Knowing your husband bought it for you makes it more special.

Stephanie said...

Did anyone else think it was funny when one of the little boys was clearly DANCING in the baby store (when the toy was playing music).

And Jana and Jim Bob quickly said he wasn't dancing - no, no - he was "jumping for joy". Jim Bob went onto say that music controls you and that's why they work so hard to control the music that comes into the house.

It's a 3 or 4 year old little boy. I doubt the song on the Tonka truck is controlling him - he's dancing. It's normal - esp. for a toddler.

Free Jinger! said...

I thought it was pretty funny when the boy was "jumping for joy". Does this mean that when I go to a homecoming event, I go to a homecoming jumping for joy? Or that Men without Hats (80s group) recorded "The Safety Jumping for Joy" or that "jumping for joy" was illegal in Footloose?

I think Jinger and Amy are going to go off and get drunk one night!

Wendy Bird said...

I agree, Fostersmom; they do seem to be joining us in the 21st century. I noticed that Michelle and the older girls wear make-up regularly and that one of the girls has given up her perm-look for a very straight, stylish look.

I was quite surprised at Michelle's response to being able to pick out a new layette and furniture for the baby. She seemed so content with her second-hand, debt-free lifestyle that I almost expected her to reject the opportunity as being too wasteful. She LOVED the shopping! I say, good for her! 18 babies and she finally got new things.

The creepy factor of the Duggar's is still there, though...seriously: Josh and Anna's matching shirts!?!? What are they thinking?

Jinger is my favorite. Love her non-verbal communication with the camera. I am so OVER Amy (Duggar) Jordyn country singer cousin. At first I really liked her, but now it feels like she has only been there to promote her singing career.

As with the Gosselin children, I feel that there should be legislation enacted to protect the minor children involved in "reality TV."

Anonymous said...

I saw the episode and I thought Jinger was rolling her eyes at her brother's new wife. She said "We haven't picked our letter yet" and Jinger looked so disgusted! Like she cannot stand her sister in law!

I also thought it was sad that they are not allowed to dance or move to music at all. It is NORMAL, not corrupt. I like the Duggar's, (with the exception of the overwhelmingly annoying oldest son), but C'MON! Let your 4 year old experience some rhythm!

Tammy C said...

I laughed at a sign that was on the back of the doctor's door.It talked about menopause!It won't be too long and Michelle wil be there for that.

Jinger is funny.

I hope Josh and Anna do not use a letter for their children's names!

Regina said...

I have to say, I loved this episode. I nearly died laughing when one of the boys suggested "Juicy Fruit" as a J name for the baby. Then the littlest suggested Giraffe (or was it Jiraffe?) Even the kids seem to think they are running out of names.

And isn't it interesting they chose Jordyn, as in cousin Amy?

The stuff about music controlling you reminds you how 'out there' they are, though.

Rufus said...

Let me start by saying I enjoyed the show and that I agree with some of the other posters about the new normality of the family. But...

Okay... Anna permed her hair. Just like the Duggar girls. Why would she want to look like her husband's sister? Why would a man want his wife to look like his sisters? It was a little creepy.

ChinaMomof4 said...

I LOVED when Jinger rolled her eyes after Anna said, "We haven't picked our letter yet."!!!

Did anyone else catch Anna's comments after the "Today Show" interview? She was saying how Josh was so relaxed and was talking about how wonderful marriage was, and it sounded like Anna said, "But it's not." Did I just hear it wrong?

tha squirrel watcha said...

I like the response this time from Michelle about more children--we'd like more but this could be our last, I'm 42, seasons of life, blah, blah,blah. LOVE it! It's like she's pleading--I'm DONE already!

Poor, poor woman. I know plenty o' people who had natural pregnancies all the way to the end of their forties!

God bless her. Hope the next set isn't triplets!

Anonymous said...

They really are a nice family. I think this maybe it for having babies though. I feel the doctor may advise against it. I also think if any of their kids decided not to follow thir path they would be okay with it. They seem to surround themselves with all different types of people.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said: "Did anyone else catch Anna's comments after the "Today Show" interview? She was saying how Josh was so relaxed and was talking about how wonderful marriage was, and it sounded like Anna said, "But it's not." Did I just hear it wrong?". She actually said "But I"m not" as in not comfortable on the tv....

Danielle said...

I wonder if the Duggars let their kids watch the part about "Cervical Softening", lol.

Anonymous said...

Can you please post a link of the "Today" show where Anna says, "But it's not"?
Thank you.

Anonymous said...

I doubt that the Duggars would stop having children based on one doctor advising against it. Most Quiverfull people will not stop having children unless it is a life or death situation and they have atleast 3 doctors opinions.

I think that there might be one or two more little ones for the Duggars. I would like to see them get to 20. I have several friends who had babies up to 45 years old. Maybe menopause runs early in Michelle's family?

Anonymous said...

Anna didn't say the "But it's not" comment on the Today show clip. It was on the 17 kids and counting show. She was talking about how easy it is for Josh to talk to the camera's and how Josh told her that it would be easy for her too, and she then said " But it's not". It wasn't in reference to marriage.

Has anyone else noticed how the Duggars never refer to their offspring as "kids"? Is this because the Bible refers to goats as the ones going to hell? ( Sheep go to heaven) I only hear them call them "children", but never kids.

Anonymous said...

I've watched the new baby episode several times this week -- they've replayed it a bunch! I am continually impressed by how Josh is so respectful of his parents. OTOH, it bothers me that he hasn't fulfilled his desire to study to become a lawyer -- something he'd talked about in the first few episodes. It seems like he's working in a family business. I also wondered if maybe he and Anna haven't been able to conceive yet and that might be bothering Anna. She made a couple of comments about "as many children as God would give us..."

I would be really surprised if Michelle were able to find a doctor who would assist in another vaginal birth after three sections now. She seemed to take having to have a section pretty calmly.

ChinaMomof4 said...

To Anonymous: Thanks for clarifying Anna's "but it's not" comment. I was hoping she was not referring to marriage and that she and Josh are happy together. I also hope that she can have a baby soon, if that is what she truly wants. It would be hard to be unable to have children given her background and the family she married into!

Anonymous said...

I never refer to my children as kids...I always refer to them as children. I was raised (non-Christian) that kids are baby goats and children are small humans.....

dotsicle said...

"Okay... Anna permed her hair. Just like the Duggar girls. Why would she want to look like her husband's sister? Why would a man want his wife to look like his sisters? It was a little creepy."

We'll never know, but it seems as though the Duggar girls like to "mess with hair" and they probably got together and included Anna in their latest hair adventure. I really doubt that Anna had her hair permed to "look like her husband's sisters".
I recall when I was a teenager that 3 of us used to perm each other's hair together. Also, one girl and I bleached our hair together. That was a fiasco and my parents were not happy with the result, LOL!

fostersmom said...

WendyBird said....

The creepy factor of the Duggar's is still there, though...seriously: Josh and Anna's matching shirts!?!? What are they thinking?


I don't chalk that up to them being Duggar's though. I've seen that plenty of times with married or dating couple, none of which have been Duggar's or fundies. I went to school with a kid from 2nd grade to graduation and at every single function, his parents wore matching shirts. While we thought it was funny, he and his brother hated it. My own uncle went thru that phase with one of his fiancees (he's been married 3 times, engaged 4). They would wear matching outfits, but in opposite colors. She'd wear white jeans and a black tee shirt, he'd have on black jeans and a white tee shirt, and the shirts would be the same. He only did this with fiancee #3, the one he didn't marry. I don't know if this is infatuation with each other, craziness, or what, but it's not that uncommon.

fostersmom said...

Rufus said...

Okay... Anna permed her hair. Just like the Duggar girls. Why would she want to look like her husband's sister? Why would a man want his wife to look like his sisters? It was a little creepy


Um, this is Josh. The same guy who said he was attracted to Anna because she reminded him of his mother. Anna probably permed her hair after one of the Duggar girls told her to do it, she doesn't seem like she would say no to anything she was told to do. I can see Jinger saying "Hey Anna, lets perm your hair!" and Anna just saying yes no matter what. Or she could just like the look. She already had that same plastering of hair across her forehead in lieu of bangs that the Duggar girls have before she got married.

Whitney said...

I think that Anna will be okay. She seems to have a little bit of spunk too. I have a feeling that she won't be afraid to let Josh know how she feels about things. I like her.

Anonymous said...

Wasn't Anna's hair curly/permed on the proposal episode? I thought it was curly before this TV debut?

Anonymous said...

I felt sorry for Anna when she was talking about how scared she was in front of the camera. The whole publicity thing obviously freaks her out. It would be really hard to be put on the spot like that. I wonder if they read all the snark about themselves? That would make it so much worse for the next interview. Can you even imagine?

I think their matching clothes are cute. It shows they are in love. I'm sure that Anna probably picked those out.

Anonymous said...

re: The "creepy factor" of Josh and Anna wearing matching shirts. Keep in mind that they are only twenty, they have never dated, this is their first relationship of any kind. I don't think they're matching because they are Duggars, I think they are matching because they think it's cute. They also constantly hold hands/he puts his arm around her. I think again, that's just two twenty year olds with no experience being cute.

Go To College, Go to Trade School ! said...

In one of the first Duggar tv specials, Josh said he wanted to be a lawyer.

What happened to those hopes & dreams?

He got married very VERY young and has stated he wants his wife to start popping out kids ASAP.

Wave goodbye to Law School....it's in the rearview mirror now.

FL Fan said...

To the poster above who said to wave goodbye to law school: It is most likely if law school is in Josh's future, he is going to have to pay for school himself.

I believe the Duggar's stand on debt would prohibit the utilization of student loans. So if his plan is to become an attorney, perhaps he is working and putting money aside for that purpose.

And frankly I wish I had worked for a few years and saved the money for law school. I borrowed almost $70,000 - just for tuition. My parents paid all my living expenses which saved me from borrowing an additional $30,000 as some of my classmates did. Even so, my husband and I will be paying that monthly student loan payment for-EVER! ;-)

If Josh is planning law school or college, just having a wife and children shouldn't hold him back. There were plenty of men in my graduating law school class who were married fathers of young children. They worked and went to school. Harder? Yes. Possible? Also yes.

Go To College said...

My point about Josh and law school was this:

Ever since he met/married Anna, there has been no mention of law school.

My point was not about how he was going to pay for it, or if married people can accomplish it.

I was merely commenting that his prior aspirations seem to have been taken over by a very early marriage. Law school has not been mentioned in a very, very long time.

Danielle said...

I've gone to college both as a single young person and as a married adult (but not with kids). IME, it was easier to be a student as a married adult, because you have the support of your spouse. And, if Josh doesn't want to take out loans because of the debt free principle, then more power to him. I am also debt free, and did the right thing by waiting to go back until I could pay for it in full. Too many people are in trouble right now because they followed conventional wisdom. I wish Josh all the best.

Anonymous said...

My brother is a lawyer- he had
an undergraduate degree before
he attended law school-
I think Josh would need a few
years of university -if not
a degree to then apply to law
school. Is there any universities
within commuting distance of
his house?
I hope he pursues his dreams.
My son is a senior in high school,
I would hate for him to get married and start a family before
going to university...

fostersmom said...

I think Josh either doesn't want to be a lawyer anymore or realized that he didn't have the educational background to make it into law school. He got his GED at 16, I don't see a whole heck of a lot of law schools accepting that. He and John-David are following Jim Bob's foot steps in the used car business. I think the law school ship has sailed.

Anonymous said...

They should cancel this show. Duggars like the Gosselins are exploiting their children.

Anonymous said...

No Law schools won't accept a GED...a bachelor degree is required prior to law school. He could go to a community college, and transfer to a university to obtain that degree no problem. I don't see what a GED has to do with it. Some law schools even offer online curriculum...

The Martin's said...

Aunt Bee said...
I loved the fact that Jim-Bob wanted Michelle to have some nice, new baby items, and was paying for this HIMSELF. Some other family we know would have gotten all that for freeeeeeeeeee and made an infomercial out of it.

Knowing your husband bought it for you makes it more special.

12/23/2008 9:28 AM
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Who says he paid for it himself !?! There was a thank you to the shop at the end of the show. And I didn't see any cash or credit cards ?!?! I bet it was all paid for !! Something to put into the show. And it annoys me when the whole family has to go along on every shopping trip !! Why could the girls just have gone ?!?!

Phoebe said...

The bottom line on the new items for the baby in my opinion is this: unlike another TLC 'extra special' family (KON), the Duggars spent many years living a very simple life. With 16 children, they still resided in a tiny (less than 1500 square foot) ranch house until Josh was sixteen or seventeen years old. They weren't discovered until relatively recently--and they were already well into the process of self-building their current home before TLC became involved. They have, apparently, more than paid their dues and spent many years and produced many children while living frugally, making THEIR OWN MONEY, and expecting nothing in return.
If they are getting some perks now, I certainly have much less of a problem than I do with the OTHER family where neither parent has worked a real job nor made an honest dollar since they began exploiting their 8 children upon the birth of the youngest 6. This latter family has been given everything for their 8 children without having earned a dime, and now they are moving into a home worth over a million dollars (the 4000 square foot house wasn't big enough for the size of their gigantic egomaniacle heads) while pretending that they stuggle to make ends meet and complaining about how hard their life is. I worry that these children will end up as disfunctional as the Dilley sixtuplets.

The Roloffs have improved their lifestyle in this same manner; how many improvements and extra square footage does that house need? No one in the family has a job outside the home and there have been numerous incidents (eg: Matt's DWIs) that make one question while this family is being held up as role models for people of ANY size.

Meanwhile, the Duggars have NEVER complained about their life; it is the life THEY chose--just like KON and the Roloffs. Unlike the other families, they do not seem to feel a sense of entitlement, but they realize that they would be crazy to pass up the opportunities that they are now being given.

I also find it interesting that Jim-Bob is a past Arkansas congressman. Clearly, this family has been a contributing element in their community and state for many years. The children all seem well spoken and intelligent and could likely do anything career-wise that they want. I am saddened that--at least so far--it appears that higher education is not a priority item for the Duggars, but perhaps the children who want to pursue college will still do so.
It is a bit disheartening that the Duggars do appear to be selling out, but they are doing so with more dignity and to a lesser extent than most others who are given the same opportunity.

DirtyDisher said...

I'm sick to death of hearing about how Jim Bob bought his wife new baby stuff. It's HER freaking money too. She's his partner, not his daughter, he didn't buy her jack squat! That's creepy. The woman is owned like cattle! And he didn't need to go with her to shop. I could puke.

Kristin said...

I think that they are still paying for most things themselves. I read in their book how they went the first summer in their new house without airconditioning because they did not have the money to pay for it themselves. It seems like if TLC was picking up the tab for everything the house would have been finished with air-conditioning.

Anonymous said...

Phoebe - do you mean Dionne
quintuplets?
Why are the Dilley sextuplets disfuntional? They seem pretty
normal...

Phoebe said...

Oops..yes, the Dionnes...those little girls that were exploited by the doctor/caretaker. That is what I meant.
I knew it started with a "D."
My apologies to the Dilleys...and BTW...where is THEIR show?

Anyway...
Regarding the Duggar house and the fact that they still pay for most things by themselves; I wouldn't doubt that is true. They strike me as having a lot of pride. I know that they had some donations of furniture, decoration, and the piano; but, as I said, that is MINOR compared to the perks some of the other TLC 'Families' are getting. And, they always seem to realize that the new things and advantages are 'blessings' while KON and other TLC family I mentioned do not...they take it as something that they expected and to which they are entitled.

I DO hope the Duggars don't sell out.

Danielle said...

I'm also curious as to why the Dilleys are dysfunctional?

And, since Michelle is a sahm, then yes, her husband bought them for her.

samcarter said...

I'm a SAHM, and my husband often went with me to look at baby stuff. I say good for Jim Bob, getting her the layette she was wanting.

And yes, if my husband surprises me with something I'd been hoping to get, he bought it for me. If we go in the store both expecting to buy it, we buy it together. The baby stuff was a gift for Michelle. There's nothing there that implies she's "owned" by her husband getting her a present of baby things! Goodness.

I do think Josh is a little creepy, but then I find all young fundamental Christian men a little creepy.

Maria said...

Kristin, I believe their house WAS finished with working air-conditioning, but they chose NOT to run it that first summer because the house is so large and they knew they couldn't afford the electric bill. That is one thing to consider when buying/building a new house - can you afford to heat and cool it?

That being said, don't Arkansas summers get hotter than heck? They sure do here in Southern Illinois. I couldn't imagine going for a summer without my AC!

Cassandra said...

Their house was built with NO central air conditioning. The first hot-as-heck summer, they kept the windows open -- and the inside of the house was coated with red dirt from the unfinished "lawn."

The second summer, they put window air conditioners upstairs in the bedrooms.

By the third summer, they had installed central air conditioning.***

*** The Duggars: 20 and Counting!

Cassandra said...

AND their book mentions that TLC and Discovery paid to finish the house. However -- the networks just wanted to wrap up filming. They did not want to film "building the house" for years. They also did not care whether the house had heating or AC. They just wanted to show a house that the Duggars had moved into.

Yeah -- JB was not too bright to not think of requesting AC.

SuzanneDeAZ said...

Maybe it was not a lack of "brightness" that he did not have TLC pay for central air conditioning. It may just have not been part of their "contract". It seems he gets bashed by many for allowing TLC to help him finish the house and then gets bashed for not having them put in AC for them.

Them not having AC put in and waited for them to do it themselves just proves that they are not expecting "freebees" for their entire lifestyle. They have been acustomed to having to wait for things for years so living without AC for a few summers was something that they were used to, to go without till they had the money to pay cash.

Anonymous said...

What did TLC actually pay for? Some paint, some furniture, and a piano? It saddens me that TLC only paid for stuff to make themselves look good, but didnt' even offer to help with the AC? Just left the Duggars to die in the sun?

Oh you know some other people +8 would be complaining about that!

Cassandra said...

I don't know specifics, but from what I could see, before TLC took over, the house didn't even have any walls -- just a frame.

DirtyDisher said...

Thank you for explaining to me how a stay at home mom has no job therefore her husbands money is not hers. She is his non paid domestic slave and he buys her things because he's just nice. Now I understand. Thank you.

Danielle said...

I stay home with my child during the week and have a weekend job. Believe me, staying home is not a job. I enjoy my child, and the housework are all things my mother made me do when I was 12.

mamawama said...

Staying home with one child might not seem like a job, but staying home with 18 is probably a pretty big task!

I can't even imagine all that Michelle has to do with homeschooling, record keeping, organizing, disciplining, meal prep, shopping....

It would be like having several full time careers!

Sally said...

Mamawama, it would be like having full time careers if Michelle actually did all those things, but lucky her, she's got her older daughters to cook, clean, and to homeschool and help out with the little ones. The Duggar parents just sit back and let their older kids raise the younger ones. Some full time job that is. Well, maybe it's a full time job for the children.

SuperMomdel said...

I find it hard to believe that Danielle stays at home at all. I stay home (and homeschool) three children, and it's the hardest "job" I have ever had. To say it's not work is a slap in the face to all moms.

mamawama said...

I agree SuperMomdel. The children would not be so well behaved, well spoken, and sweet if their parents were not heavily involved. Who do you think taught the older children how to cook, clean, and help teach? There are many hours invested in them.

In their book, they talk about how Michelle gathers all the non-napping children around the dining room table for hours in the afternoons.

I do not understand how someone can say that the olders raise the youngers. First of all kids don't turn out that well if they are raising themselves.

If I said, " People who use daycares aren't raising their own children", I would be flamed, and rightly so. Just because a family has helpers to look out for the children doesn't mean they aren't raising their children.

I don't believe that any of the older Duggar children could make up lesson plans, chore charts, meal plans, shop wisely, schedule doctor and dentist visits and still learn to play the harp, piano and violin and do all their own schoolwork.

Michelle works hard, I bet. I've rarely seen her sitting down. And she didn't always have older kids. She had about 7 children under the age of 10 at one time? I think? Was she just sitting back then?

Send that young woman to college ! said...

Posted by: Mamwama: " I don't believe that any of the older Duggar children could make up lesson plans, chore charts, meal plans, shop wisely".....

Well, pay a little closer attention next time you watch. Michelle has clearly stated that the "jurisdiction" of meals belongs to the eldest daughter (the pretty one with the blonder-type hair). The eldest daughter is clearly shown in an episode charting the weekly menu on a dry-erase board hanging on the kitchen wall.

Anonymous said...

that comment about the oldest girl doing the meal planning is part of parenting. We as parents have the responsibility of teaching our children to do the necessary chores of everyday living. If Michelle didn't delegate those responsibilities, she would be failing as a parent.