Monday, February 6, 2017, 9:00 PM, The Bachelor Party (Episode 17)

After weeks of wedding planning, it's time to celebrate Jinger and Jeremy with a Bachelor and Bachelorette weekend full of friends and family. Jessa and Ben find out the gender of Baby #2. Derick returns to OSU to reprise his role as Pistol Pete.

60 minutes

Ratings:  1.165 M viewers and a .31 rating. 

59 comments:

Just ME said...

Since when does a former student at the college return to reprise his role as the mascot? I don't care if he's only doing it for an hour (I don't know what the time frame is). For God's sake, he's a husband, father of one, soon to be two. Perhaps this will be his new job, or at least good for donations to the Dillard family missionaries.

Hannah K said...

Seems like everything the Duggars & the husbands do lately is just plain stupid. They play around like little kids without a care in the world yet they are adults making babies, without jobs and all the time in the world to take on foolish pursuits.

Ellie On a Roll said...

Oh, come on. Not another wedding related episode. Nothing like beating a dead horse. Enough already. And I'm pretty sure a lame time was had by all.

Wednesday said...

Derrick reprising Pistol Pete? Oh gag! Don't they get humiliated by these stupid antics?

Molly said...

And what do these young people do at a bachelor/ette party? They don't drink, dance, watch movies/TV etc. I'm not saying they have to get trashed and act crazy but what kind of "party" atmosphere will it be?

Molly said...

And what do these young people do at a bachelor/ette party? They don't drink, dance, watch movies/TV etc. I'm not saying they have to get trashed and act crazy but what kind of "party" atmosphere will it be?

Heart in Florida said...

Oh, the girls sat around the Duggar table beading for Jinger's bachelorette party with mama Michelle and Josie. I don't think their conversation about adults kissing and it's technique was "modest"or appropriate for Josie to be listening in on. These people are messed up.

Misty Leland said...

They most likely went crazy decorating with paper signs and ate ice cream at the party as that seems to be their only wild pleasure and excitement.

Candy lover said...

Oh, good grief! Why is Derick hanging on to when he was Pistol Pete?

Is that the most exciting time in his life?

What about that lovely (giggle)
courtship/engagement/wedding? And becoming recognized worldwide, not just in Stillwater, OK as Pistol Pete.


Captain Crunch said...

Because the scence/script/director called for it.

andrea23 said...

I think we'll have to hear about how other people's idea of a bachelor party might be different but since " we don't drink alcohol, we do it this way". No doubt there will be children at this "party". Maybe they will play some touch football in the front yard in between changing Spurgeon's diaper and fellowshipping. Benjermin and Derrick will ask Baaybe Vuolo if they want to have children right away and he will answer in typical Duggar fashion that they will let the Lord decide. The whole shindig will rage on until the wee hour of 7:30pm and everyone will go home.

Hopefully for everyone's viewing sake I am wrong and Jeremy decides to let Josh plan the party so he can call up some of his lady friends from D.C. and show these guys a good time for once in their lives!

laura said...

Out of any episodes of this show, this seems like the one to completely forget exists. Boriiiinnnggg

They're Crazy said...

Re:Heart in Florida. I don't think Josie listening to conversation about adult kissing & the techniques involved is inappropriate. After all her parents demonstrate these techniques & much worse, in front of her on a daily basis. Of course, by now at the age of 7, she must understand that she can't do that but she can remain safe in the knowledge that Jim Bob & Michelle will do it for her when the proper time comes. Just as they did with Josh & Anna. That worked out well didn't it? You really have to wonder if the Duggars have ever heard of "sex education." I don't mean sitting down the night before a weeding with a book that was given to you when you married more than 20 odd yrs. ago. Of course, you could update the "sex education talk" by discussing "legos"

Opie said...

This show about a Quiverfull cult family is a study in how evil and criminal they can be all in the name of religion.

Jeremy knows what to do at a bachelor party. I am pretty sure we will see the "girls" giggle and pretend to be happy.

PeteysNan1 said...

If he runs around in that Pistol Pete suit he may get all "gaggy" in there so he'd better be careful...lol.

Esther said...

Don't people invite friends to these bachelor parties and not have momma & little siblings hanging around? The girls know nothing of sex and body parts, thinking a baby is grown in the "tummy" and they are not pregnant but "expecting". I think their wedding nights are traumatic due to lack of affection & education, other then perhpas a lego demonstration. Suddenly a man they have never been alone with is crazy with desire after months of side hugs!!. I doubt the girls even realize they too could have pleasure, only knowing they have to be available for the husband in order to get themselves pregnant.

carla said...

Bet Jeremy has been to some rather over the top bachelor parties with wild woman and drink. What is he ever thinking about the Duggar way of life? Probably if I stick with this phony BS, I will eventually become a wealthy tv evangelist so ok Jinger, let's go wild, get out the straws, be so naughty as to drink an ice cream soda out of the same glass.

Sharla said...

As I've said before, no comments suggesting that Jeremy is an alcoholic will be approved. Please don't send any more though.

Mamba said...

I must have been the only one who enjoyed this episode. They did fairly normal things that normal young adults do. None of the girls, especially Jill, died from rubbing elbows with us heathens. I give this episode a pass. I can't remember the last time I saw an entire episode.

Heart in Florida said...

Jill seemed like a fish out of water on the campus of OSU. She had absolutely no concept of college life at all. I think she was insensitive to the account of Derick's father's passing. She was smiling with somewhat clueless eyes from what I noticed. I also didn't think it necessary for Cathy to bring THAT up at the door of Derick's dorm room. Just a downer that none of them needed. Recalling the good times they had together on that campus would have been better for Cathy and Derick. Where was Mr. Byrum? He didn't accompany her there? Strange thing. One shares in all of the life experiences when marrying. It's those experiences that contribute to the person Cathy is today, the woman he married. Same goes for her with Mr. Byrum's life history. Well, at least, that's my take on it. My second husband shares in my experiences before he came in to my life and I with his.

sheila said...

Talking about Jinger and Jeremy' first kiss, does anyone remember the short video of Ben and Jessa reminiscing on their first wedding anniversary? The video itself seemed to me to be a bit forced, but the kiss at the end was painful. I literally cringed. They barely touched their lips together (facing each other head nose to nose), then they froze in that position for a second, then it was like "1, 2, 3, tilt!" It was so weird I actually felt sorry for them Too sad to even be very funny.

Susie said...

Another brilliant piece of advice from Jill: "either you initiate or he initiates".

Josie climbing on laps and Spurgeon nearby and Michelle participating made the party stupid.

Loved watching Baby Ben stumbling around in the escape rooms. Glad someone showed him the way out through the door....

Jessa telling us that their dad told them that if they wanted to go to college he would support that was such a farce. Will Izzy be a Pistol Pete someday? Only if he stays away from any version of the "Duggar Academy " and goes to real schools and gets an education.

Jeremy and Jinger old footage is boring. No one cares that the men cannot play golf. They cannot do anything. That is why they are in the cult.

Seriously said...

I found it sad that Hannie, Jennifer and Jordyn were not included in the beading party but Josie was-I hope this was not intentional. If so, it sends a clear message to the poor "lost" girls.

Meme said...

Let's talk about Jeremy. I notice that he is talking like the Duggars now. However, he reverts back to being Jeremy around his friends, giving full frontal hugs even to the girls. His language changed during the "challenge" between the guys and the girls. He began describing his own personal attributes. Stopped using the word "sweet."

Jinger is a strange piece of cheese. She offers Derick's friends a hip and shoulder (side hug) as they attempt to embrace her. Someone please explain to these fools that HUGS AREN'T ALWAYS SEXUAL!!! You know what, Jinger? Just forget it.

Derick met a challenge in the man bun competition. LOL. I've also noticed how he changes his language depending on the audience, like Jeremy. Sweet this, sweet that. Then he visits his alma mater and feels at home and has intelligent conversations with his mom. Very nice. Until.....Kathy brings up the subject of Dad's passing. Derick's reaction was to lower his eyes and LOOK OVER AT JILL! What, does Jill get to determine your reactions now? Is there a secret, silent signal for "too emotional" or "okay, you can cry now?"

Maybe I read too much into things or see things that aren't really there, I don't know. But I see behaviors that say "Duggar" all over these guys. JMO.

Aunt Bea said...

Why did Jill wear that "tarp-tent" of an overly long denim skirt to that event at OSU? She looked awful, as usual. She also wore those ugly sneakers with her modest skirt to the escape room adventure. Doesn't this woman have a clue on how to dress? She needs a very good bra too...let's start with that.

Grandma Wagner said...

What a joke Jessa saying Jimbob would support their wish to go to college. First of all, to even attend a community college, they must pass an entrance exam if they had home schoolin' and no high school diploma. I doubt the kitchen table education prepared them to pass such a qualifying exam. History, math, English, are all included in such testing and sometimes a foreign language is required. Even if they were permitted to attend, how would they pass the classes with their limited educational background. Also, how would they attend classes among the Nike sinners? Would they bring along a younger sibling to classes to watch their every move?
Let's hope their children will have the opportunity for an education outside of the family home. Can you imagine Ben & Jessa in full charge of the education of their boys? Also, consider the example Ben and Derrick are setting for their sons with no jobs. I ten years, where will these unemployed men be in life? Will they have 6 kids, a wife, not earning a living and Jimbob getting older, giving them just enough money to survive?

nan miller said...

What a great film this would make, the true, inside story of the Duggars. It will happen one day when once of the younger ones escapes and does the tell all interviews and ghost writes the book.

Elspeth said...

Our local community colleges don't have entrance exams. In fact, here they are not allowed. They do, however, have placement tests so that those needing remedial education can be put in the right classes.

Heart in Florida said...

I re=watched the episode today. I agree with the assessment that Jill and Derick are terribly unhappy. Jill did seem quite off and troubled. Derick looks miserable and deflated too. I think they're both disillusioned with what they found in marriage so far. Jill had a very sad demeanor about her and on her countenance at the escape room arrival. She and Derick hardly acknowledged each other after the boring craft bachelorette party. She seemed to ignore him. Derick seemed happier being back at OSU and interacting with the other former Pistol Petes who are normal men. They're sad to watch right now.
Jessa has gone out of her way to avoid saying who has been giving her the prenatal care with S2, like she did with Spurge. That vanity sonogram would be the first time they'd have a look at their child in utero, which leads me to the conclusion, that she hasn't seen any real medical care but with either Jill or a broken down "midwife-like woman" with a stethoscope.
With Jinger, everything is "super" this or that. Please, grow up, Jinger and adjust your vocabulary as well. I hope Jeremy doesn't lose his mind marrying and living with an emotional clueless 12 year old girl who thinks his name is "Baaaaayyybeee".
Can't stand Michelle's squeaky voice any longer. Glad she tried to keep her mouth shut. It really looked like a bachelorette party to me, didn't it? The silence was almost deafening. Thanks to Jeremy's friend's wife who tried to initiate conversation. Why make the jewelry for the wedding when they could have gone to a discount store and bought it for cheap? Not worth the crafting effort and time, IMO.
Will Michelle EVER take off that awful long black skirt, black stockings and heavy, black "nun" shoes?
Once again, Jill was dressed terribly. Lose that newsboy cap, girl.
What kind of party excludes half of the bridesmaids? Strange.
Jeremy didn't need to look like a fool in that 1930s golf outfit. They don't wear knickers on the links any more, Jeremy. Please, don't lose your self respect nor your dignity for that idiot family you're marrying in to.
Jessa needs to learn how to laugh and CLOSE HER MOUTH. I'm tired of seeing all of her teeth and down her throat to her tonsils every time she laughs.
Spurge is still cute. Josie, not so much. She wasn't needed there.

Judy said...

TLC was trying to make the Duggar kids look bad by asking them what a homecoming was. They would have no idea so they came off as stupid to a lot of people.

Judy Walters said...


I think it's interesting that there is no dancing allowed, but meanwhile Izzy is dancing to the music and Jill id loving it. When/how does that stop?

Bird said...

I agree with everything I have read here, Jill and Derrick look miserable, he did look happier at his old school. Why his mom brought up his dad the way she did was weird, but she probably isnt happy with Derricks life and bringing up something so sad and personal was all she could think of to do.Michelle is doing everything she can to keep Josie a baby, such a dad situation and if there is something mentally wrong with her, odds are good they are not getting her help.

Julie said...

I don't watch because I refuse to be a part of keeping their ratings high enough to keep them having money thrown at them by TLC.

Having said that....what was the escape room?

I am not that far from OSU but wouldn't go there to gawk at the celebs. I suppose they were signing autograph's when the cameras were not rolling.

Seriously, they were beading? Why didn't they have a coloring party? Then Josie would feel right at home.

Julie said...

Was Sierra Jo Dominguez on or was she home slapping together those tacky cupcakes in a jar ($39.99 for 4, for dimwits who will pay it.)

Sierra Jo Dominguez is just asking for trouble always 'running with her hair on fire'.
She is violating several of the rules on etsy and ignoring FDA laws, selling food on there.

Etsy page states:
The Fair Packaging and Labeling Act stipulates that "all food products should be labeled with disclosure of ingredients, quantity and weight of ingredients and labeled with the name and place of the person or business who makes and packages these goods." No nutrition facts or caloric info on the label. The regulations have the force of law.

She is required to show show ingredients on the etsy listing descriptions and show whether or not your products contain nuts, dairy or other common allergens, as well as whether or not your products are made in a facility that processes these items.

When selling outside of Arkansas (which she is)The State of Arkansas shows she may need a business license, a food handler's license for each person making and packaging the food. She may also need a home or commercial kitchen inspection, most likely from the Department of Health, and insurance that covers basic liability.


Wonder if she is collecting state and local taxes and remitting them to every state and city that requires online sellers to collect them.

Natasha said...

Can i ask why ANYONE would let a baby drink tomato sauce from the can through a STRAW?

InVA said...

Judy Walters, I had the same thoughts/questions about Izzy dancing. At one point do they put a stop to it? Is there a certain age?

I also was surprised that John-David wasn't golfing since he was a groomsman, right?

I thought that Jeremy showed some personality with his golf attire. I liked it!

Did anyone else notice that the guys were talking about who went to college where in the Escape Room and then the next day golfing Derick shows up in his OSU sweatshirt. Have we ever seen him in his college gear before? Sure looked like he was trying to keep up with the other guys and it highlighted again just how little Ben (seemingly) is doing with his life.

I was shocked that the girls got further in the Escape Room than the guys.

Jeremy's friends are so nice and normal, I really hope they keep him grounded and that they and their wives can normalize Jinger a bit. Too bad they live so far away from them as well.

I also hope that Jeremy's love of books rubs off on Jinger and that she discovers a love for reading and learning about the world through them. She has an inquisitive personality and so maybe through his life experiences, books, "outside" friends she will have the opportunity to branch out a bit in life.

There's no way Jessa had that baby in a hospital...he wasn't wearing hospital-wear, the blanket wasn't hospital-issue. Looks like they dodged a bullet again.

Disgusted with Duggars said...

Seeing Derick return to OSC & enjoy his time there, as well as watching all the other alumni enjoying themselves. Then they ask the Duggar kids what "homecoming " is & none of them have a clue. It doesn't mean you need to attend college, it can be your High School Reunion, where you catch up with people you haven't seen for some time or perhaps not at all since graduation depending on where everyone now lives. You catch up on what they do for jobs, their families, do they have children, etc. It really makes you realizes that the Duggar kids are loosing out on more than English, History etc. They are loosing out on living a full life....big time! Some of the everyday things they are asked & they don't have a clue. When the men were playing golf & they asked Joy what a birdie was & she answered it's a bird flying but not a really big bird. I couldn't believe she will soon be married. Strangely they are perfectly comfortably stating that they don't know the answers because they are "homeschooled." Michelle is always talking about how they can continue to learn all their lives. She tells her kids that they never need to stop learning. I suggest she at the very least buy them all a dictionary.
Usually I consider myself very observant but I didn't realize until I read it here, that Josie was at the jewelry making party but not Jenny & Jordyn. How cruel can they be to leave those little girls out of the "fun" they were having? The woman that was teaching them how to make jewelry even had Josie sitting on her lap at one time. Jenny & Jordyn have been the lost children ever since they were born, & it's will never change and for this kind of treatment Michelle receives the: "Mother of the Year Award." So many women would just love & adore those little girls. It's just terrible that they are treated this way. Sadly more & more blessing will be brought into that family & treated this way,if not worse. By the way did anyone see them serve any refreshments at the "Bachelor or Bachelorette Parties?" They could have sent out for pizza.

Karin Johns said...

Derrick seems to be craving his old life and friends. Could he be bored with the baby making Duggars? I wonder if he feels he made a mistake marrying Jillymuffin and is stuck for life with a girl who is too uneducated to engage in an intelligent conversation. Could it be a matter of time when he does something crazy like escaping to another country, leaving Jill to fend for herself? He looks like he's dying and needs a big change in his life to recover the man he once was.

Cherie said...

Jenny, Jordan and Josie should have been in school even if it is homeschool. I couldn't help thinking that Josie was skipping out. Several of the kids appear to need special ed and they are all way behind their public/private school peers. Child Abuse. TLC needs to keep both of these parents AND Josie AND Anna off of the air.

Arlene Carter said...

Some of the Duggar children appear to be special needs because they do not have a good command of the English language. They are dumbed down. It's as if they have been kept in a cage, without meaningful contact with the outside world. Yes, they travel around the world but stick with the siblings and usually do not associate with others. So the limited education that Jimbob and Michelle have is passed down from parents to older an child who then has to teach the younger sibling and the information becomes weaker and weaker. Just think of Jill and Jessa teaching their children English !! Like, likes, liked, liking.

Aunt Bea said...

Karin Johns post about Derick regretting his present life and craving his "old college days"....yes, perhaps you're right, but why then conceive another baby with someone you regret life with?

Just Unbelievable said...

Cherie, you are absolutely correct that the Duggar children need special ed. They will never receive it. Look who was the "teacher" for the older kids. A woman who herself is in no way qualified to even try & teach those kids. You can't sit kids of different ages & abilities down at a table & think you're doing an adequate job of educating them. Those kids were always wild when they were supposed to be doing their "school." They couldn't sit still,they couldn't find their books etc. You would think when that house was built there would have been a couple of school rooms so the kids could have some peace quiet while they tried to study. Neither Jim Bob or Michelle have a decent command of the English Language so how can they pass it down? Now we will see the homeschooling passed down to another generation. Their entire focus is on making sure the courting couples are not holding hands, or doing anything more than giving side-hugs. In last weeks episode when the older Duggar kids & their guests were leaving the house, Spurgeon was trying to craw out the front door & what did Michelle say; "Spurgeon wants to be a chaperone." We already know that the state of AR doesn't require any testing for homeschooled kids, so the Duggars just print up their own diplomas. Let's face it the Duggars live in their own world. They live in their own time zone "Duggartime." Well the rest of the world doesn't live on Duggartime but they all just love to laugh about the fact that they can make up their own time zone. We are the Duggars & we make our own rules. We are homeschooled, so if we don't know the meaning of a word or how to speak correctly so what? We know enough to live in Duggarland. Just unbelievable!

Elizabeth C. said...

How sad that Michelle & Jimboob have so little faith in their teachings about moral codes that they are obsessed with spying on her children. What would happen if one of the chaperone children reported that an adult sibling kissed a potential marriage partner. Would that adult be subject to the rod, as Gothard prescribes?? So sick, the thought of their twisted ways !

Heart in Florida said...

Does anyone also notice that some of the Bates children need speech therapy? Some of the young ones are almost impossible to understand. They lisp heavily. One of the teen daughters also has a lisp that could have been easily corrected with such therapy. I wonder if they are aware that the public school system offers therapy FOR FREE to these children. You don't have to be registered in public school either. My own son received such therapy for speech and speaks perfectly today. I find the neglect a sin in itself as their parents aren't doing what they can to help their children, which should be their FIRST earthly responsibility.

Too many blessings said...

RE:Heart in Florida's comment about the Bates children having a lisp. I hate to say it but either they don't care or they don't notice it. Another advanage of having too many children.

Missy said...

RE: Elziabeth C's comment. If a chaperone reported that a sibling kissed a potential marriage partner, I believe the courting or engagement would be over immediately. They've moved on from Gothard's rules to Jim Bob's rules.

Maze said...

We don't know for sure that Jordyn and Jenny were asked to participate and declined due to not liking the activity or some other reason

Andrea23 said...

How embarrassing is it that Jeremy is mature and responsible enough to provide spiritual guidance to a congregation yet he has to have Jinger's kid brother tag along as a chaperone to pick up his friends from the airport! I felt bad for him until I realized he was going through these motions willingly. He's a grown man and presumably has his own standards with what is acceptable before marriage yet he still has to play the Duggar game.

helen D said...

Maze....what other activity could the Jordyn & Jenny have...Girls Scouts, dancing lesson, friend birthday party, sleep over? Most likely they were stuck in the laundry room.

Willow said...

Regarding the lisp issue: One of the Bates' children has a congenital hearing problem and thus a SLIGHT (IMO) lisp. Sometimes, even with therapy, this may be the best it can be. We don't know for sure but someone in my family has hearing loss and a slight speech issue that has been fixed the best it can be. I do not think I have heard any other Bates children with the lisp issue - is there more than one?
It is their intentional lack of correct grammar usage and the exaggeration of their Southern accent that is the most troubling to me (some of them, not all of them obviously).

Heart in Florida said...

I'm aware of the young Bates daughter who has a partial hearing loss. I was not referring to this sweet girl. An older daughter and two of the younger sons have this in varying degrees. One of the little guys is not understandable. He needs some help and doesn't seem to be getting it. If someone of born with an affliction, I would never point that person out. They are all sweet little kids.

Heart in Florida said...

Some of the Bates 19 speak like they are from the North and have no accent at all. How can that be? They all grew up in the same house in the same town with the same southern-speaking parents. I don't understand that. They also have had LIMITED friends.

Sabrina W said...

What Andrea?? Married Jeremy had to be chaperoned to go to the airport?? He's gotta have a scam in mind that involves his Duggar association in order to put us with such insanity. I thought once a man was married, he could go places on his own....Jimbob does. Josh did or he wouldn't have met up with the stripper. Will those Duggar kids always be lurking around Texas watching and reporting about Jinger & Jeremy? Do those kids ever do their home school study?
Wonder who is teaching them now that the tutor is off to marry that older sex abuser.

Katrina said...

Obviously Jeremy has jumped on the Duggar gravy train. He's already received trips to NYC, Australia & New Zealand. How many young people without jobs get to do all that traveling within a few months?? He's been paid to appear on Counting On, probably more then he made in his short soccer career. The ministry in Texas is just to introduce him as a preacher so he can proceed to the tv evangelist show I feel he's got his heart set on. I could see Jinger playing the piano and visits to the show from the Dillard missionary couple full of CA stories, begging for money. Expect Ben to do Christian rap. Michelle can work the phones....experience in the robo calls !!,..... taking pledges with her sweet little girl voice. Cousin Amy could guest with her tales of abuse and Josh about his recovery from sexual addiction. Yes, there could be much more coming from the world of Duggars.

Stephanie said...

I think Michelle always puts Josie in the scenes of the big girls, that party, whenever the girls are packing, and when they try on bridesmaids dresses. Michelle is encouraging that behavior.

Derick pretending Izzy can be Pistol Pete (and by default attend college) are the same comments Ben makes when he says he wants Spurg to play football. Until the time comes we won't know if the young dads will have the guts to stand up to Jimbob on behalf of their own sons. Remember when Ben had the football camp? Jimbobs sons were so uncomfortable looking. They had no idea what the coaches were saying, they say out and didn't do any of the drills (I think Jackson tried) being an athlete can real boast a boys confidence and treacherous boys how to work like a team. Jimbobs sons have no concept of that.
My point was will the young dads stand up to Jimbob when the time comes?

Most sickening moment of the episode? Jill can't even give a 50/50 guess at the sex of her sisters baby but instead guesses what her huzzzband says because he's always right? Jills hero worship of him seems sac religious or something.

Stephanie said...

Regarding Jill and Derick comments above. I must disagree. There is a photo of them at JB on New Year's Eve and they are in the background alone on the couch no kids and no one else around. They are very touchy-feely and heads close together speaking. This a a photo that they didn't know was being taken. I think there was something else like that I had seen but that New Year's Eve photo made me think that they are really into each other. Which is kinda sweet but Derick is acting more stupid and Jill has too much hero worship for him.

Heart in Florida said...

re: Jill and Derick's displays of affection in the Duggar home: That 'touchy, feely' stuff is an act that these people put on in front of everyone. I think it hides what's not going on in private. Keeping up appearances you know.

Gerti Conover said...

People secure in their relationships do not have to put on shows of affection for others.

Jennifer said...

We saw them! Actually most people just went on about their business. The only time I saw someone ask for an autograph was a kid who wanted Derrick in his pistol pete costume, only because his was the only one he hadn't gotten in the past 9 years.