At Least They Waited a Year - Jinger's Pregnancy

Jinger pregnant.

It's a girl.  People has the story plus a clip on TLC go.

Baby Felicity Nicole is here.

131 comments:

Jellybeans said...

I'm very conflicted about this news. On one hand they waited a whole year, they seem very happy, and if this is what they want then good for them! However, given the duggar method of courting they really only dated for a year because before marriage those girls have no idea who they are really marrying.

Aimee said...

"At least they waited a year" - my thoughts exactly Sharla! I knew, unless they had infertility struggles, they would not be a couple that waited too terribly long. I am glad they took time to be married, BUY a house (and can I say that I LOVE that it's far far away from the Duggars), and to do lots of traveling. -- Also, I realized it's quite possible that all 6 married couples will have a baby/be pregnant this year as it's about time for Jessa and Jill and Anna usually winds up pregnant around her baby's first birthdays.

Not a Mocker said...

"At least they waited a year" well it's not like they were going to fully abstain from having babies for forever. And in Duggar time they waited for an eternity really. I also feel like, that of all the Duggar spouses Jeremy will be the most careful of Jingers needs during pregnancy and delivery. (This is the guy who didn't let the in laws visit for six months after they got married. He seems to care more about Jinger then the "party line")

Mickey2942 said...

Must keep the show going and the ratings up, Jinger is doing her due diligence to keep it going.

Don't consider education, training, or a job!

Michelle said...

Well, of all the husbands, Jeremy will hopefully see that Jinger has the baby in a hospital. We can hope.

At least I'm sure he won't take a nap and leave Jinger on a toilet.

Diana said...

I certainly hope that Jeremy will make sure that Jinger receives proper care from a REAL obstetrician! I read that one of the Bates daughters boyfriend lost his mother during childbirth. She died in 2009 giving birth to his little sister. She had homeschooling her kids too, so it's just a guess on my part that she probably had no prenatal care and attempted a home birth. You'd think other fundies would learn from this woman dying! Then again, I guess they would think "it's God's will"! Anyways, at least the Vuolos will have had almost 2 years as a couple before baby. Guess it'll give Jinger something to do all day now while Jeremy writes his Catholic bashing sermons. Jim Bob must be seeing dollar signs!

Goldielocks said...



Don't they realize it isn't so exciting to follow anymore with Josh having five while Jill and Jessa have had two each. That is nine, so far. And three more for the Duggar tribe due in 2018....(that will make twelve births.....unless Anna, Jill and Jessa can bring it up to fifteen this year).

Yawn.

And the weddings...also boring.

What could they do that would ever entice me to trade some time out of my life to watch that bunch?

Captain Crunch said...

I am honestly very happy for them. They seem to be the most 'normal' of the clan, 'meaning least Gothard-ish'. I predict they will have a small family, maybe 2 or 3 little Vuolos, not a tribe like what Anna's working on. And I'm glad they waited a year and bought a house first, and its so far away from Duggarville. So I say congratulations to the Vuolos!

Andrea said...

Anyone else see the Duggar congratulatory video posted on the Duggar website? Two things, Jill and Derick aren't in the video it's just Dim Bulb, Me-chelle, Jessa (Ben), Josh (Anna) and Joy (Austen). Wondering where Jill and Derick were. Where to were the adult but unmarried children . . . are they locked in a closet and unable to congratulate the couple?! Secondly, Jessa's acting really weird in the video. She's actually not maturing, she's become more childlike. Shudder . . . could she be pregnant again and turning into Michelle?

Andrea said...

Anyone else see Jinger and Jeremy's TLC announcement? It was lifted almost verbatim from Joe and Kendra announcement. "I think it's a boy." "I hope the baby is just like Jinger." Oh my gosh, these people don't have an original thought in their head. Please, please end this show. I clearly have some sort of weird addiction to their lame drama which I hope will cease when the Duggar's are removed from television. Mark your calendars Monday, February, 26th . . . Dragging On returns and I'll likely be watching.

Diana said...

Andrea I've no doubt Jessa IS pregnant again. Notice that very loose fitting shirt she's wearing. Those are the kind of shirts she's been wearing for about a month now. Plus little Henry is the right age spacing she had between Spurgeon and Henry. Guess the Seewalds are just waiting for their turn to announce. Also, I could see Jinger and Jessa planning to be pregnant together too.

Mickey2942 said...

Jessa is around small children all day, and socializes with women who have been homeschooled.

That is hardly company that would encourage a large vocabulary or sophisticated conversation.

But she can birth babies, that is the most important skill a woman can have.

laura said...

NnnnnnnOOOOOOOOOO!!!

sandi said...

Jill and Derick did congratulate them in a separate vid on the Duggar family youtube channel.Maybe JB didn't want them in the group deal? Idk

Willow said...

I also hoped Jinger would get a little education but Jeremy did introduce her to some basics like plays, museums, music, books etc. They also have been into photography together and have traveled some, even though much of it was religion-based reasons, or so it seemed. Jinger has had opportunity to learn about the things outside of Gothard. This is a very good thing. I hope all goes well for their family and they remain "outside" of Gothard. They will have the influence of the Vuolo family on raising children, so there is a lot of hope there.

Willow said...

One more thing - What a coincidence that Jinger and Jeremy announce their pregnancy the day before the Bates show returns. I had been thinking there might be some news from the Duggars that would be strategically announced. I know they are all friends, so I am not saying it is super hateful, just an extra little bonus.

Don't get me started said...

LMAO Andrea....Feb. 26, "Dragging On" returns.

It's an addicting train wreck and I just CAN'T look away. I'm betting on the 6 married girls all preggers this year. Anybody done the accounting yet on when Jimboob will hit grandkid #100?

glass dishes said...

Glad she had one year to get to know her hubby. That is along time in Duggar Land to be married and not preggers. Hoping she has a hospital birth as well. They do seem more grounded as a couple.

Aunt Bea said...

So, we don't know when the Vuolo announcement was recorded...what month is she due?

Auggie said...

In the Duggar's congratulatory video to Jinger, Joy says their babies will be about six months apart. Are we all assuming Joy had a honeymoon conception? If so, she would be due around Feb/March ...I think. Did she get married end of May? That would make Jinger due around Aug/Sept.

Gross said...

Looks like Jessa and Ben can barely keep their hands off Jessa’s belly in the video

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nickle pickle said...

anyone see that video with the duggars saying congulations to Jinger and Jermey? they had mom and day duggar joy and austin and jessa and ben and josh and anna. ok were are the rest of the married couples left out jill and derrick and Joe and Kendera. guess they are mad at derrick and jill. and joe and kendera off doing some child games somewhere. Joy looks like she is at least 7 to 8 months in the video.

by_the_way said...

Ok I understand that jim bob and Michelle had a boat load of blessings before they became reality “stars”, and the married kids are following in their footsteps, but I wonder how many more children they will have after the show is cancelled and they stop getting the attention and TLC paychecks? That is, IF this show every goes off the air?

Maris said...

Listen, it is not uncommon to start trying after a year of marriage. Add to this the fact that for a Duggar, she waited an eternity and I’m not sure why she is getting so much grief. She was the first in the family to show a shred of free thinking and her appearance and wardrobe changes since marriage don’t seem nearly as contrived as Jill’s, what with that one’s 180 degree change lately. I say let’s celebrate Jinger and save the snark for those who deserve it: Jill and Derick topping this list. They actually make my skin crawl.

Just Saying said...

Maris is correct that it's not unusual for a couple to start family after a year of marriage. However, Jinger is still a young girl, she's not approaching her thirties, as some of the girls who are waiting until they are a little older to marry are, so after a year of marriage they are approaching their thirties. They don't have several years left in their twenties. It also depends on where they might be in their careers. We know that's not an issue for any of the Duggar girls.

Definitely not a child said...

I have a point of correction. Jinger and any other woman in her twenties is not a girl. Women have been fighting the put down terminologies for years and we shouldn't perpetuate it against ourselves.

Heart in Florida said...

Jinger did not plan to wait a year before a baby, Jeremy did.
I agree that the older Duggar females are women, not girls. The youngest 4 are still girls.

Smokey said...

I hope these families are thinking ahead. The show is not going to go on forever. They may think they are well off right now because of the show. How are they planning on supporting all these blessings since none work except john david? I am willing to bet we will see many of these kids living in poverty. Anyway I would have liked to see on duggar not want the same thing. Hoping one would have gone to college or worked. I guess they are all Jim Bob clones.I had hope for Jinger. Hopefully she will at least limit the amount of kids.

nancie said...

I feel that Jeremy will see to it that Jinger has regular obgyn visits and gives birth safely in a hospital setting to protect the lives of his wife and baby. He seems too intelligent to want to observer her suffer for hours at home like Derick and Ben did with Jill & Jessa. If he didn't bash the Catholics, I'd like him.

Always said...

Re: Comments that Jinger waited so long to get pregnant, it' a long time in Duggarland. Yes that's true, with the exception of Michelle Duggar, who was married at least 3 yrs. before her first pregnancy. Strange that the girls have to have honeymoon babies, or at least within the first yr. With Michelle it's always do as I say not as I do.

Just Saying said...

re:Definitely not a child's comment. Sorry for offending anyone. I was only trying to make a point that Jinger still had plenty of time to become pregnant. She is only in her twenties, yes you're correct, that's not a "young girl." However it's not always necessary for young women to become pregnant as teens, or as soon as they are married in the Duggars case & that's often early twenties. It's still possible to become pregnant if there are no physical problems, well into your late thirties or into your forties. Again I'm sorry you took offense at the point I was trying to make that Jinger was still "young" although as you mentioned not a "young girl." She is however a "young woman." Perhaps that's how I should have said it.

got2bdrc said...

While the older Duggar daughters are certainly physiologically women, in terms of intellect and experience, they are little girls. Lack of exposure to wider society and the inability to socialize in age appropriate ways with a wide range of classmates, friends, and others has left them insulated and ignorant of many of the things that help children and teens grow into adults. When they're married and out from under the parental thumb, it may be too late to overcome those shortcomings in their upbringing. Jill and Jinger seem to have moved away from some of the more superficial aspects of fundie life, but I'm guessing that, in many other ways, they remain unformed and uninformed about people, places, and ideas that the rest of us take for granted. Sad!

Just Sayin said...

Re:got2bdcr. I appreciated your comments about the Duggar women in terms of intellect & experience being "little girls." I agree with you & was tryng to make a point that young girls or young women it's not absolutely necessary to become pregnant within a yr. of your marriage. There's a lot more to life but they don't know it.

sheila said...

I have been without a computer for about 3 weeks so what I am going to say may be old news. But I was wondering if anybody else made the connection between the outfit they were wearing when they announced their pregnancy and the one posted much earlier of them wearing the same exact outfit while each holding a round rainbow lollipop. The caption on the lollipop one was labeled "sugar and spice, think about it". This was a cryptic pregnancy announcement (in my opinion) and I further think it was an announcement for a baby girl. What does everyone else think?

Aimee said...

Shelia - I agree! I also thought that photo was a girl pregnancy announcement when posted! I know others posted the same in the comments on the original instagram post.

Danielle Pate said...

People are still going to be pissed.

Anonymous said...

Michelle also sees a legitimate obgyn and has hospital births.

Christine said...

Always said commented about the Duggar girls' getting pregnant early in marriage: "Yes that's true, with the exception of Michelle Duggar, who was married at least 3 yrs. before her first pregnancy. "

My impression is that JimBob and Michelle were much less conservative early on in their marriage -- still very conservative, but y'know, Michelle could wear pants and they used birth control -- until she miscarried and they went Quiverfull. I don't know exactly when they became ATI devotees -- I think Josh went to private school for first grade -- but that would have pushed them even further into natalism.

Aunt Bea said...

The Duggars were married and used birth control. Josh was a planned baby after 4 years of marriage. Michelle obtained her real estate license and worked in Jim Bob's parents' real estate business. The Duggar family have been in Arkansas many generations and the 19 kids are now a 5th generation real estate license holding family. Michelle was allowed to work at that yogurt shop while attending high school, had her own money as a teen, etc.. she continued to work after she and Jim Bob married. THEY gave themselves that time before the children came along, that very important time that they deny their own adult,, married children.

sandi said...

I think they were married for 4 years bf having kids,if Josh was born in '88

sandi said...

Aunt Bea,yes,and I think the only things a counselor told them not to have was a tv for the first year,maybe not a pet,either,so they could concentrate on each other during that time.I think Michelle said they got a rabbit after one year of marriage.Ironic,they reproduce madly.LOL

Heart in Florida said...

Michelle is on record saying that Josh attended kindergarten at a Christian school, (a real one) and then she's on record changing the story that he was always homeschooled, NEVER having attended a brick and mortar school...which is the truth? School enrollment records hold the truth...either the local public school in Tontitown or the Christian private school. Easy to find out.

sandi said...

Idk,but in their 1st book,Michelle says they started homeschooling Josh at age 4,bc he was ready,and they were ready.She says it was then they attended their first ATI conference on homeschooling

Aunt Bea said...

sandi: I think the TV matter early in Jim Bob and Michelle's marriage is quite telling. I see it this way: They were advised to not have a TV during their first year of marriage, so they didn't...100% NO TV. Then, they added one to their household and those two admittedly overdosed on TV, watching it many, many hours per day. I see it as they had and have to this day, no real self control or any skills doing anything in moderation. They are extremists. It shows in almost everything they do, think and say. Their lifestyle is also extreme, their belief system is extreme, the number of children they have is extreme...are you following me? To me, this can be also a sign of immaturity. Children tend to overdue things when very young because they don't have any judgement yet. Neither to JB and Michelle.
They are still 19 and 17 years old, emotionally, IMO. The Bates parents, Kelly and Gil, although they live a similar lifestyle present themselves as more mature and educated than the Duggars, because they ARE. (Same awful belief system, but their major state university education shows.) The Duggars lack of it shows also.

Mary said...

Hi

I keep hoping for boys to be born. No future girl servants born only to have a dozen or so,

sandi said...

Aunt Bea,yes,that makes perfect sense! Thanks for your insights.
Only thing I would add,is I suspect JB was also jealous of the men on tv back then,and didn't want Michelle viewing them.Recall shows like Magnum PI,Baywatch,etc....all handsome men on those shows! Perhaps lots of Nike moments for her,LOL.Better to rid of the tv;no comparisons to himself there,lol

Willow] said...

Sandi, I think you are so right. The strict patriarchal men cannot deal with comparison. They have low self esteem, imo; thus the extreme control over their women. Note they don't allow, for the most part, tv, movies, magazines, etc. They want women to have no experience with kissing, sex., etc., so that they can pretend they are wonderful. lol. Isn't it just too much. Poor women who do not understand this and think it is all just fine, and worse yet, sinful.

Willow said...

Oh, and announcement from the Duggars yesterday that Jinger's baby is due in July. She and Kendra, I believe, will have their babies very close to each other. Alyssa and Erin (Bates) are also due very close together, in April. Alyssa will have 3 babies in a little less than 4 years. Erin will have 3 babies in a little more than 4 years. Following in the footsteps of their parents, obviously.

Cindy said...

Mary, in reference to all boys being born. That will only mean Hannie, Jordan and Jennifer will have more responsibility. They will be required to help take care of them.

Ruby said...

This is an insightful comment, aunt bea. The duggars are extreme in every way. Why have 9 kids when you can have 19? Why have shoulder length hair when you can have bushy hair that reaches all the way to your butt? Why use self control when you can ban all contact with folks who don’t see the world the same as you do? To me , this is a sign of weak character. They are followers, not leaders. They do not think they just choose the most extreme position and force everyone to do the same.

Ruby said...

Sheila, maybe it as a cryptic pregnancy announcement from Jinger and Jeremy where they are holding the lollipops, but is she far enough along to know the "ginder"? Also, do you think Jinger knows the nursery rhyme about "little girls are made of sugar and spice and everything nice"? She was raised in a fundie bubble with no exposure to literature of any kind, even childrens' books. Unless her recent "love of books" is a fascination with Mother Goose, which is entirely possible.

Ginny Streeter said...

Jinger just posted her 22 week pregnancy photo and I have to say that she looks good. The other girls really put on a lot of weight with their pregnancies and Jinger looks like she hasn't. I am hoping that she is getting prenatal care etc.

Mickey2942 said...

I saw Jinger's 22 week belly, and really find the obsession with pregnancy, belly pics, to be immodest, for a family who states they are so modest and Christian, they sure want to focus on sex, and every incremental inch of the expanding belly. At least Jinger has more sense, than her sister, Jill, who stuck out her breasts and showed more cleavage than Kim Kardashian. Couldn't Jill find any clothing that actually fit?! She wore tighter and tighter t-shirts every week.

I just think the obsession with breeding is almost to the point of being obscene. Yes, women get pregnant, and many of them continue to actually work full time jobs, and often go to college as well. Whereas the women in this family just stick out their bellies for a photoshoot. Why is this even remotely interesting to people? Uneducated, unemployed women, married to men, who are also unemployed and uneducated. The double standard is glaring, how is it that people judge Nadia Suleman, a single woman who had the same values as the Duggars, to have as many children as possible, but she is portrayed as a "crazy woman".

In a cruel, and unchristian way, I can't wait until the TLC bubble ends for this family.

Willow said...

Jinger is apparently lucky to be having a more reasonable life with Jeremy. He has more education regarding things like medical care. I feel like he will make sure Jing is well taken care of during her pregnancy. I look forward to hearing about the baby as time goes on. I think they will be more like the Websters and keep the family in the waiting room until they are ready to share. I feel it is nice for the audience to be in on the main events of the pregnancy, but I don't think anyone looks forward to seeing the mom during the actual labor. At least I do not. That should be for the husband and maybe the moms, imo. The whole world knows what laboring women look like. And, btw, I think its a girl. I have someone close expecting mid July as well and they are having a girl so I'm predicting J&J for a girl as well.

sandi said...

Willow,the recent he article about Jinger said Michelle,Jill and Jessa will be in the delivery room with her.I hope that means in a hospital,and not her bedroom at home!

Aynsley Hamilton said...

My question about that is babies have their own agenda. My second came at 35 weeks....it was a total surprise. My parents were in the next province over on holiday. I had no choice but to have just my hubby in the delivery room. I secretly hope something like this happens to Jinger. I wouldn't wish the NICU experience on anyone but just so she could have some freedom from Meechelle and Nosy Jillymuffin and Jessabessa the mouth. I find giving birth is such a personal thing between mother, father and the newborn child.

Willow said...

Yes! Hopefully, the words "delivery room" are a clue!

Mickey2942 said...

Completely agree. This family seems so emeshed with each other, it would make me claustrophobic. Although, Michelle seems out to lunch most of the time to me, probably because all she thinks about is making sandwiches for JB.

Crazy Bunch said...

I don't understand why it's necessary for Michelle, Jill & Jessa, to haul themselves to Jinger's birth. Why can't it just be Jinger & Jeremy? Since it mentioned "delivery room," I'd like to know, if it's a real hospital delivery room, just what makes them think the staff will allow all of them in there? None of them, including Jill are medical professionals. They belong in the waiting rom.

Ruby said...

willow, where has Jinger said that she will use a "delivery room"? Can't seem to find it.

sandi said...

Ruby,it's here

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-5537133/Jinger-Duggar-shares-bump-photo-24-weeks.html

sandi said...

Pardon,the article said Michelle,Jana and Jill will be in the delivery room.Not Jessa.
So Jana can't go out with the married couples,but she can witness their birth?

Willow said...

This family's inability to keep their stories and beliefs straight gives me a headache. Some hospitals/birth centers would allow cameras, some wouldn't. All hospitals would allow the patient to decide if she did not want anyone in the "room". I'm just surprised J&J are letting so many in. I hope Jeremy's mom is also invited.

Jamie C. said...

"Pardon,the article said Michelle,Jana and Jill will be in the delivery room.Not Jessa.
So Jana can't go out with the married couples,but she can witness their birth?"

Aside from being her family's houseslave, Jana is a concert pianist AND a trained doula. If she's in the delivery room, that's probably why. IIRC, the doula is there as a comforting presence for mama rather than getting involved with the baby's delivery.

I would cringe at the 19K&C episodes when they dragged the entire family (teenaged boys & all) to Michelle's ultrasound appts. She is totally covered to be modest but her sons have to be there because they do everything together as a family.

Alicia said...

Jinger and Jeremy should have the birth with only them in a hospital. The gang of Duggars should politely be in the waiting room of the hospital. I can't believe Jeremy wants them there since he said no family visits for 6 months after marriage. They can be "so excited" to see the "precious blessing" after it is born. I hope Jinger gets pain relief and medical care in a real hospital and not some dirty shed type midwife dwelling like one of them endured.

Wheez said...

Don’t most real hospitals limit tthe number of additional guests in the “delivery room” to one or two, so as not to interfere with the medical staff doing their job?

sandi said...

I think if you deliver in a birth center,or women's center,they are more lenient about extra ppl being in the delivery room.
I had one of mine in a women's center that is part of a hospital,and they were very lenient about additional ppl being a part of it

Mickey2942 said...

The creepiest thing ever, is how JB "crows" that Michelle had 13 VBAC. Sick. His daughters are different, built differently, every pregnancy is different. Just because Michelle had VBAC, without complications, is completely meaningless in relationship to his daughters pregnancies. The ignorance is staggering, as if JB is the "end all, be all" of medical knowledge, women's anatomy, and pregnancy. The narcissism is epic.

Willow said...

Michelle probably had the many hospital deliveries because of the VBAC issues - having more than the usual person could/would have - I'm surmising this is likely. Also, remember the pregnancy (probably Jordyn ?) where she said on the show that she chose Dr Sarver because she would allow attempting another VBAC? Does anyone else remember that? For sure, Michelle had exceptional anatomy, but that doesn't guarantee her daughters will as well.

Not a Mocker said...

About Dr. Sarver being the only doctor that would allow attempting another VBAC. Can a doctor force a c-section? Like, if the mother says "no. I want to birth 'naturally'" are they gonna be like "welp to bad!" And force her? (Not trying to be sarcastic or anything. Just genuinely confused as to what a doctor would do?)

My Opinion said...

In my opinion, Jill hasn't been a vital, important, educated, informed, assistant, at anyone's birth experience & if Jeremy is smart he'll keep her away from Jinger, so she won't be giving advise that is different from any medical professional, Jinger might have, if she is indeed in a delivery room. As far as the rest of the family goes, they have had the pleasure of being at every other birth & it's about time they stayed either at home, or at the very least in the waiting room.

Blah said...

Not a Mocker, a patient always has the right to reject care that a doctor provides. A doctor, on the other hand, is required to provide care. The only time a patient can be legally forced to receive care is if the patient has a power of attorney written over them, which means that another person has right to make decisions on their behalf. In that case the individual who has that authority over the patient can decide to agree to the doctor’s advice against the will of the patient. Besides that, if a patient directly says “no” verbally or in writing, a doctor must desist according to law. That is at least how it works in the US. If the patient is unable to give a response, the doctor is allowed to provide whatever treatment he or she sees fit, as that is their job to provide care for the patient.

Just guessing said...

re: Not Mocker's question about whether or not a woman will be forced to have C-Section. Hopefully, the woman will have been under the care of the Dr. who is attending the birth. I think they are more apt to have a conversation where everything is laid out for the mom, so she will realize that if she declines a C-section, she is really risking both her life & her babies. Women usually have confidence in their Dr. & go along with his or her recommendation. This is why it's important for a woman to have good prenatal care either by an OB/GYN or Licensed Nurse Midwife. If you have a good relationship with your Dr. or Midwife, women don't feel forced to have a C-section. I can't imagine how a Dr. or Midwife feels if they loose a woman or baby, when they have recommended a C-Section & the woman refused, which she has the right to do. I believe they will also try to have her husband or other family members try to convince the woman that it's an urgent situation & this is the safest route for everyone involve. No good Dr. or good Licensed Nurse Midwife, tries to convince a woman to have a C-Section just to move the process along. It's always a last resort

Ginny Streeter said...

Response to Not a Mocker regarding doctors forcing a person to have a C-Section. They can't force you to do something, however they CAN refuse to take you as a patient if you are not willing to accept their professional/educated advise. Quite honestly, if I were an OB/Gyn I would have a long hard talk with Jill at the first appointment (if there ever was one) and go over the extreme risks of trying another VBAC with her history and those two C-Sections so close together. If she and D were not willing to take my medical advise, I would (in a very professional way) tell them that I would not take her on as a patient.

NWArkie said...

Can a doctor force a c-section?

Not exactly, but s/he can refuse to attend a patient (if it's known in advance that the patient will not consent), or the hospital might require the patient to sign an AMA (against medical advice) form that releases the staff and hospital from liability for the patient's decision.

I'm not sure what would be the situation if a patient reached some critical state and still refused intervention. Doctors do have some significant leeway to make medical decisions (like the decision to amputate a limb during surgery), but I'm not sure what the protocol is for a conscious patient who can declare her choice. Any medical practitioners out there who can answer that question?

Springtime said...

I'm not sure it was a case of Dr. Sarver being the only Dr. that would allow attempting another VBAC for Michelle. I think she was conveniently a "female Dr." in close proximity to the Duggars & that's why Michelle choose her. We never saw who was Michelle's Dr. with Josie, it could have been Dr. Sarver, who would have needed to refer Michelle to a specialist, considering the problems she encountered. With Jubilee, who knows? We never saw who was her OB/GYN. I thought that maybe Dr.Sarver had enough, after Josie's birth & didn't want to be involved in any more of Michelle's pregnancies.

sandi said...

If a pt or the baby's life was in danger,I'm sure staff would be required to act in the best interest of both of them.They can't just let either of them die

Pam said...

I do know that if someone goes unconscious or is not responding, medical staff consider that implied consent and will do whatever they have to.

NWArkie said...

"Every competent individual has the legal right to refuse lifesaving medical treatment. Therefore, a health care provider cannot force medical care upon a patient without his/her consent even in life-threatening situations."

However, "...Where there are minor children dependent upon the survival of the patient, the medical control of one’s body is relative...The court acts according to the state’s interest in protecting children when the lives and health of unborn children is threatened by their mother’s decisions."

https://death.uslegal.com/right-to-refuse-lifesaving-treatment/

But that means the hospital/doctor would have to (in the middle of labor) find and convince a judge that a C-section is necessary and is the ONLY treatment that will save the child's life.

As one of my friends says, "You have the right to be stupid."

Willow said...

I think its great that Jinger is the one having a girl. I doubt they will treat her as a slave/sister mom. Maybe J&J can turn the tide on that issue a little bit. My hat is off to Kendra and Jinger for wearing classier, more appropriate maternity clothes. They look great.

Molly said...

How refreshing to see Jinger wearing an actual maternity dress during their gender reveal. She looks so nice and put together compared to the over-tight stretched out t-shirts that the other sisters have worn.

Susie said...

At least Jinger does not cut Jeremy's hair. I hope she gives birth in a hospital with Jeremy at her side and all of the Duggars should be in Arkansas where they belong.

Tori said...

Willow: They both do look great, pregnancy sits well on them both. I love that Kendra hasn't felt the need to post a weekly 'look I'm still knocked up' picture, infact she and Joe still have no social media, hopefully they will keep it that way.

Aunt Bea said...

Since wearing pants isn't a sin, but Michelle's PERSONAL conviction, why is it that the married Duggar daughters aren't allowed to wear them when in their parents' presence? I don't think that is consistent with their statements about pants wearing.

Natasha said...

I was encouraged to see in the gender reveal that Jinger said they found out at their 20 week ultrasound. That sounds like a traditional pattern. Maybe it hints that she is receiving proper prenatal care?

Foxy said...

Maybe so, Natasha! I also noticed that Anna announced that Mason was a boy around 13-17 weeks, so it's possible she had a blood test or amnio to find out that, or an early ultrasound.

Emma said...

Aunt Bea: The Bates girls are the same, both Alyssa and DIL Whitney both wear jeans/pants, shorts and Whitney even wears one piece swimsuits (shock horror!). Whitney has said in the past that she doesn't wear these clothes around her in laws out of respect for their beliefs, but repect is mutual and surely the Bates (and Duggars) should want their daughters to feel comfortable in their company and respect what they believe. I would love for Jinger to say exactly why the change in how she dresses, but I think we all know the answer, Jeremy. Before marriage JB controlled everything these girls could do, including what they could wear, Jinger married a man who doesn't buy into the skirt only rule, and who obviously doesn't buy all JBs BS and has taken Jinger far enough away that daddy doesn't have control, so Jinger can wear basically what she/he wants. Jill is another story, she only started wearing jeans after Dericks twitter storm over being a volunteer on the show, think that was the finger to JB from Derick without making a family fight too public!

Just Thinking said...

I agree that whatever is Michelle's "personal conviction," is exactly that & shouldn't be forced on her daughters or anyone else.

Just Hoping said...

How vey sad that the Duggars, with their very limited education, think they know everything about childbirth. They believe you can always have a VBAC following a C-Section. It may be true in some cases but not always. Also when it's obvious that things are not progressing, either with a first baby or after a C-Section, it's time to listen to the professionals. This does not mean your sister who just loves to run round with her stethoscope & portable ultra sound machine. Those 2 items give her the impression that she's very important & whatever she says is absolutely right& everyone should listen to her. So far she's made a mess of her own births, as well as Jessa & Joy's. I hope she's not allowed to attend any of the other upcoming births. I would like to think that Kendra would plan to go to the hospital but suspect that she will at the very least try a home birth. Like others, I have more hope for Jinger. I hope she's having good prenatal care & plans a hospital delivery. At the very least maybe she will have a well qualified Professional Nurse Midwife & go to a certified clinic.

Mary said...

From what I have seen of Kendra, she is not mentally strong or mature enough to give birth at home. But that could mean she will do as the Duggars tell her and struggle in awful pain at home to be one of the girls and make Jimbob proud. Hope those parents of hers are involved in getting her to a hospital for the birth.

Willow said...

I would be really curious if Kendra's mom has done home births. If she has not, I hope that means she will have some influence to have Kendra go the hospital route. I just do not hold out much hope that Joe would be one to go against JB. Joe needs Rev. Caldwell to tell him its o.k. He seems to admire his father-in-law.

lisa Mcginess said...

none of these girls are ready to be moms. Kendra is a child a school girl with her first crush on Joe. I think Jim bod has all these planned out before anyone knows what is happening to them. his next target is those twins boys of his. I am sure he does not want Jana to marry then Michelle would have to work. John David, I think he does not want me to marry either because then he would have to work. John David is at Jim Beck and calls doing everything. I think he knows more than his father so he does not want some women in his son's life then he would have to answer to the wife and not Jim bod any longer.

Mickey2942 said...

At least Jinger has some class, unlike her sister, Jessa. Jessa was constantly taking selfies, in a skintight shirt, and posting them, busting cleavage, and giant belly, in a shirt so tight you could see her belly button.

Jinger looks very nice, in a loose top, jeans, usually with her husband.

Not a Mocker said...

In response to Mickey2942

This is all speculation of course, but I feel like the reason Jinger is more classy then Jessa and Jill when it comes to maternity is because maybe Jinger has come to realize (or always thought) that pregnancy isn’t the be all and end all only reason of her life. And as such, doesn’t feel the need to put it on full display like “see. See! I am good woman! I make babies like I’m supposed too”
Just an idea though.

Ginny Streeter said...

I just saw the most recent picture of Jinger and Jeremy. I hope that things go ok with her delivery and she has the baby in a hospital. Just my eye speaking here, but it looks like the baby is still pretty high and that it might be another big Duggar sister baby. Praying that things go smoothly for her.

HistorianMom said...

Looks like little Felicity was born yesterday.

Willow said...

She looks adorable from what we can see in their picture. Looking forward to seeing her whole face. Congrats to them. I saw some comments that say the baby has a hospital bracelet on but I couldn't tell.

Former Fan in Canada said...

Jinger's baby girl is here! 8lbs and a little bit -- not as huge as the other Duggar babies born recently. Based on the photos, it definitely look like Jinger is in a hospital bed -- maybe a birthing center, but I don't think they're at home. And so far, no pics of the entire clan crammed into the room, trying to be the centre of attention.

Mommy in PA said...

Congrats to Jinger and Jeremy! The baby is adorable and Felicity is a lovely name for the little lady! Did anyone see the picture of the three of them? It looks like Jinger is wearing the same shirt she used for her weekly "baby is the size of..." pics. Kind of like the "after" pic I guess. I don't think they will have a super large family like Michelle and Jim Bob. I'm guessing 3-5 for them, especially if they wait a little between each the same way they waited a little bit after getting married.

Tori said...

Mary: I think the Caldwells hold some influence with this young couple. Joe seems to idolise Kendras father and even with all their crazy fundy pamphlet posting nonsense I think they only have one foot on the crazy bus where the Duggars have a one way ticket and JB is the driver.

Emma said...

Does anyone know if the marauding midwife Jill was at the birth? I could not see the online magazine pictures as they won't open here in the UK but I did see screenshots of some and in one Jinger and Jeremy had their backs to the camera and in the bottom left hand corner was a partial face and they eyes looked so like Jills it was scary. I hope if she was there she stayed out kept quiet and let the real professionals do their job.

Trish said...

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Felicity_(given_name)

Wow! Felicity is not a fundie name!

Not from Duggarville said...

Not a Mocker - I think Jinger married better than Jill and Jessa. Jinger married a non-fundie adult who went to university and had a professional athletic career. Jeremy's parents are NOT fundies either. He was raised in the Catholic faith so Jesus was present in his upbringing and it appears that they have a very close-knit, loving Italian family with traditions handed down. Also, Jeremy and Jinger LIVE THEIR OWN LIFE AWAY from Duggarville. They are acting like "regular" young, married couple establishing their own life in a new place far from either of their parents.

Tori said...

Not from Duggarville: Jeremy was not raised in the catholic faith. His father became a baptist in the 70s and the Vuolos have raised their kids baptist. Jeremy hates the catholic faith, and has caused controversy by calling it a 'pagan' religion in one of his sermons.

Curious said...

Is papa Vuolo a Baptist? I thought he might lean more Reformed since that's the branch Jeremy has joined.

Heart in Florida said...

I'm sick and tired of folks assuming Jeremy has this wonderful 'Italian family." He does not. SOME of his relatives may be more 'Italian" as they might have married Italians and still live in PA where there is more of that ethnic influence. This Vuolo family is PART Italian from his grandfather. Grandma Vuolo has stated on the show that SHE IS NOT ITALIAN and merely learned her mother in law's recipes from her in order to cook her husband's favorites from HIS MOTHER, who was full Italian. Jeremy's grandfather is full Italian that's it...I highly doubt that Diana Vuolo has any Italian blood in her veins. I wish they would quit playing up the "EYETALIAN" in Jeremy. It starts and ends with some recipes and that's it with this guy.
This is coming from a 100% Italian decent person, one who's parents were born in Italy.
Thanks, guys.

Tori said...

Curious: I think your right, I read Chucks story on line about how he left the RC church and his upbringing, and was saved. The person who influenced him was baptist and I think it might have been a baptist church he was saved in? It was quite a while ago that I read it and have forgotten some of the finer details of the story, sorry for the incorrect info, I will need to see if I can find it online again.

Andrea said...

Additionally aren’t all italians Catholic?!

Just saying said...

Re Wether or not any of the Duggar women were either, with Jinger or "visiting her" when she gave birth. An article in the Inquisitr, mentioned that the baby just missed being born on Jim Bob's birthday & that the entire family always goes out to dinner at Cracker Barrel for his birthday. Missing from the Jim Bob birthday photo were; Michelle, Jana, Jessa & JILL! If memory servers, I believe that's usually the "delivery team." However, I think Jinger had the baby in the hospital. In the picture I saw, Felicity had a hospital bracelet on her left arm. It was in the picture of Jinger, Jeremy, & little Felicity in an adorably pink outfit, as opposed to the brown blankets we have seen some of the home delivered Duggar grandchildren wrapped in. I think Michelle & her delivery team were there in Texas but don't believe they had much to do with the delivery. I have a feeling Jinger had a professional hospital delivery, at least I hope so, but as usually Michelle had to get her oar in the water, at least to say she was there. She always wants to say she was there when her grandchild was born. I know it was mentioned that John David flew his plane to Texas, several days before the baby was born & nobody seemed to know who was on the plane with him, other than Abbie. My guess is it was Michelle & the delivery team, as Michelle was not going to miss out on any grandchild's birth.

Blah said...

Not a mocker, I disagree. Like Jeremy said, Jinger is “meek” and she has been raised to follow her husband without using her own mind to determine what is right or wrong. Fortunately, Jinger got lucky and married someone who I think most of us would consider living a more normal lifestyle. This is all Jeremy’s doing. Had Jinger married someone in their circles we all know how that would have ended up. Case in point: Jinger has no mind of her own. She hasn’t shown yet any reason for anyone to believe that she is independent in her thinking. She has never independently expressed herself publicly since getting married, instead she has only echoed Jeremy in all public appearances. She is doing exactly what she was raised to do, even if it’s not exactly the way Jimbob envisioned it. Everything we see of Jinger is the careful work of Jeremy, make no mistake about that. I only see Jinger as Jeremy’s happy little puppet.

Heart in Florida said...

Andrea: The majority of Italians are Catholic, but like anything else, that is changing too. Most Europeans are not religious any more,regardless of their religion. Church attendance across Europe is declining. Most Italians IN Italy are still Catholic in varying degrees of practice. Some in the US have converted to various other Christian faiths for personal reasons. My Italian family and I are still Catholic as are the majority.

Peachy keen said...

Michelle just misses out on when her own sick child is left in the care of sister moms and suffers seizures

Mickey2942 said...

The longer this show goes on, the sorrier I feel for these young women. The most personal intimate moments of their lives are front and center for JB's obsession with cash and fame. It is almost like their lives are scripted for the show, and Jinger's new baby, is more of an object for ratings, storyline for a cover for "People" magazine.

Beautiful baby, I hope that they soon leave the circus.

Aunt Bea said...

Blah, your post was oh, so right. Well said.

Tammy C said...

Andrea My husband grew up Italian Catholic and left the Catholic church almost 35 years ago.So now that would make our now adult children non Catholic Italians.

I just hope when the new season starts they rush thru a timeline to get the show if anything 3 months lagging in time.

Very Sad said...

Excellent comments by Mickey2942 regarding the lives of the young women on the show & Jim Bob's obsession with cash & fame. I guess those of us who were raised to be our own people & live our own lives are fortunate. I would just hate to have had a father like Jim Bob who truly only had one thing in life that was important to him, how much money he could make off of his family & the publicity they garnered. I don't believe he has an ounce of love for any of his kids or grandchildren. They are window dressing for him. I realize many will not agree with me & I understand that, but I believe what I see not, what Jim Bob's PR machine puts out there.

Mickey2942 said...

Thank you. It is such a sadness. He rushed to get Josh hitched, poor Anna, and we see what a great catch he got for Jill, as for Jessa, Ben is a 22 year old man, with a wife, 2 kids, and no job. The rest, JoyAnna, knocked up as quickly as possible, Jinger was obviously told to get with the program, must have pregnancies for the show!

Elspeth said...

Another article about the birth and photos:
https://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/pictures/jinger-duggar-jeremy-vuolo-share-daughter-felicitys-first-days-at-home/family-of-three/

Rita said...

Why does Jessa ALWAYS have her snotty nose in everyone's business?!?! Seriously, does anyone care if Jessa went down to thrift store and bought some used junk for the nursery? Bet Jeremy and Jinger politely said nice job and then redid things to their own liking once she left.

Mindi said...

I don't think Jinger & Jeremy needed anything from Jessa that came from a thrift store for Felicity's nursery or any clothing for her. She looked adorable in the outfit Jinger had her in for her first picture, the little pink & white outfit. I'm not sure Jeremy wants this little one in thrift store outfits.

GingerSanp said...

Re:Rita's comments about Jessa getting her snotty nose in everyone's business. Rita is absolutely correct. I noticed when all the women were at Joy's house the week before she gave birth, making the meals to put in the freezer, Jessa was there with her two boys & she didn't do a thing but sit on a couch & be interviewed. The only thing I saw her do in the kitchen was hand someone a box of foil for the meal they had prepared.

Melinda said...

I read that Michelle & Jessa traveled to Texas to visit Jinger & the baby. It never mentioned any of the Duggar women being there for the actually birth.

Give me a break said...

So, I see Jessa brought her unemployed husband and two cute but germy kids to "HELP" Jinger after she delivered a baby. How rude. Exactly how much work did you create for the new parents?? Let's just hope Jessa had the decency to atleast put the boys wet and soiled diapers in a garbage can!

Tori said...

Jessa could not let Jinger have her moment in the spotlight being the new mom with the first daughter born to a Duggar girl, I know they talk about how close they are but I'm sure shes jealous as hell! She had to pick what is probably the worst time to visit when the new parents are having to adjust to broken or no sleep, getting to grips with breast feeding for Jinger and just getting to know their baby and be a little family of three. I know visitors even family were the last thing I wanted just days after having my babies, and of course there had to be the obligatory photo op and comment about now having 'baby fever'. I'm calling it now Jessa is pregnant or will be by the end of this new season, just timed perfectly to help the gravy train keep rolling along with JD and Abbies wedding and the next Duggar boy to start courting.

LilBit0318 said...

Yup...Jessa barging in with Ben, Spurgeon, and Henry that soon was just rude now that I think of it. I have a niece and a nephew, and when my niece was born, I came the next day, at my sister's request, to meet her, and I stayed with my mom and stepdad rather than with her and my brother-in-law. And when my nephew came along, I waited a week, and though I did stay with them that time, it was only for a weekend, and I think they were happy to have the help corralling my niece for a couple of days.

Tondo said...



I thought someone repurposed that ugly old striped skirt of Jill's into a new get-up for Michelle.

Thanks for the link Elspeth.
https://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/pictures/jinger-duggar-jeremy-vuolo-share-daughter-felicitys-first-days-at-home/family-of-three/

Willow said...

Its just sad, to me, that Michelle and Jessa couldn't just go visit the new baby for a day or two without Ben and children in tow. That's just the way I view things. They are obviously of a different mindset. JB didn't even tag along. Why can't Ben find something constructive to do? He seems like a very nice and sweet person, but its just annoying to me that he can't find something to do. I know he is supposed to be "studying" but they don't show it or talk about it, so it seems vague to me. Married couples don't need to spend EVERY single minute together, do they? Maybe I am wrong about this but it just seems odd to me. It must be what Jessa wants. While I am at it, why is Jessa the main person on Counting On and why are Erin, Lawson and Kelly the main "characters" on Bringing Up Bates. Just wondering.

Willow said...

Well, they said last night that Ben goes to school and "works". Jessa did not say what kind of school or what kind of work, but o.k., glad to hear it. Lets see, Ben goes to school, "works" and does most of the cooking and is always available to help with the kids. What exactly does Jessa do? Sorry I am on such a rant about her today but while I enjoyed the new show last night, for the most part, I am just so tired of Jessa. Please TLC, move it on to the other folks a little bit.

Mickey2942 said...

Well, Jill is not an option, she is out of the picture. I won't bother to mention Josh, he is definitely out, and that limits Anna to a very minor role. It seems like Jeremy didn't want to be part of the circus. That leaves Jana, who is busy doing laundry, John David, who never seemed to want his every moment on camera, Austin and Joy-Anna, they are so boring, it is like watching paint dry. The newly married couples, I suppose they are interesting, until they open their mouths, and you hear the result of homeschooling education, isolation and minimal contact with normal society. These people are as socially awkward as autistic people.

LilBit0318 said...

So...I watched the little two-part birth special on TLC’s website, and I have questions. I’m glad Jinger seemed to have somewhat competent pre-natal care and went to a hospital for the birth, but why San Antonio? It’s a 2½ hour drive from Laredo. Surely there must be a decent hospital closer. Second, why did Laura need to come at all? She’s not family and seems to just tag along everywhere Jana goes lately. I think I’d have had something to say about that if I were Jinger or Jeremy.

And yup...That was ridiculously rude of Jessa and Ben...Probably even moreso than we thought! You don’t just “surprise” someone who’s just given birth by coming in from out of town! Yes...Like I said before, I went to meet them pretty soon after my niece and nephew were born, but my sister knew what the plan was and let me know when would be a good time to come. I couldn’t imagine barging in like that!