Duggars The Next Generation

Reported in a thread below, Josh and Anna may get their own show? I don't know but after this week's episode, I don't think I could stand it. That's just one person's opinion. Open for others to have their say.

163 comments:

AmyKB said...

I am absolutely in love with the idea of Josh and Anna having their own show. It'd be kinda like a look into ultra-conservative, quiverfull young families. There's just so many things I've never considered (and I do think Anna's honeymoon swimwear was more fashionable than the similar outfits that the Duggar girls wore in an episode last year) that I'd love to learn more about. And Anna is just adorable.

NotaKateFan said...

What is it with TLC and the overkill of their shows? Not satisfied with just J&K+8? We'll give you the Hayes family. Not satisfied with LPBW? We'll give you the little couple where the woman is a doctor. Not satisfied with 18&Counting? We'll give you Josh and Anna & Counting! Enough already! It's overkill. We don't need a Josh and Anna show just like we don't need more little people and we don't need more sextuplets on TV. The channel is a joke!

Laura Brandon said...

I would LOVE for Josh and Anna to have their own show!! I love them!

SavetheSheeples said...

I don't know if I could watch a show that centered on Josh and Anna.

I find Josh to be a bit arrogant sometimes, and I can only take him in very small doses.

I don't even notice when he isn't around on "18 Kids...".

Anonymous said...

I think it would be interesting to get a peek inside the household of a young couple with very conservative values and I think Josh and Anna make excellent role models for their younger syblings and other young people in the wider community. I'm not sure I could take a regular full time show with just the two of them, but special shows every now and again would be great.

I think they are a little TOO sweet, it doesn't seem like they have a real "grown up" relationship... Anna and Josh seem like two middle schoolers who have just discovered how much fun it is to kiss each other... that being said, I much prefer their lovey-dovey behavior over the marital squabbling and verbal put-downs on certain other TLC programs.

Anonymous said...

I'd be likely to watch this. I haven;t watched many episodes of the show lately, but when I watched the two episodes this week, I enjoyed the "New Duggars on the Block" whereas I found the ice storm episode quite boring.

Sulmith said...

I admit I will watch but I fear for the stability of their new little family and kinda wish they wouldn't do this so soon. I could live without my Duggar fix.

I wonder if Josh and Anna have a TV in their home? I would guess that they do, but that it is kept in a closet and only used for specific shows and certainly never when the Duggar kids are over to visit. I'm sure they have internet access too. I'm curious to know how they handle that.

talklesssaymore said...

Regarding the tv/internet situation I'm going to guess they have a tv and the internet because it's allowed once you are adult- which is defined as when you get married. However once they have children of their own there will be passwords and rules about it.

Jim Bob and Michelle have a tv in their bedroom and I'm sure they use the internet as a resource for things.

I, for one, would love Anna to use the internet to look at all the Christian modesty online clothing stores that exist. There are so many better choices for swimwear and clothing then what she has. I shop from those stores and honestly no one can tell. It's still the same styles but cut higher on the neck, lower on the length, etc.

B.MO said...

Yea sure, and it'll be about how these two dump off the kid(s) w/the inlaws and get free trips and freebies...why not?! TLC seems to think this is perfectly fine w/other *not so normal* all-American families. I already get a gist of living a la quiverfull....No thank you! Not only that but like I stated on another thread...Josh's arrogant, stuck up attitude seems to get old after awhile. Especially a one half hour show...its just a waste of teleprogramming LOL (is that even a word?! If not, I can too Kate!) I looooove 18 Kids & Counting w/out Josh as it is....

Well, that was just my one person opinion....

Michelle said...

I would watch it! They are such a cute couple and it would be interesting to see a young couple live by the family rules that the Duggers live by.

swissmiss said...

I would not watch the show.

They seem incredibly 'young' and I don't think I would want to see them every week.

They might appeal to a younger audience than I am. Actually, I'm old enough to be their grandmother (gulp).

Anonymous said...

You can tell they weren't allowed to kiss before being married. They can't seem to keep their mouths off each other. They also look very awkward when they kiss, like they don't really know what they're doing but they can't stop because it feels good and that's what married people are supposed to do. ha.

Anonymous said...

Ugh, they aren't interesting enough for their own show. I agree with the other anonymous poster above: you CAN tell they weren't allowed to kiss before they were married. So awkward.

Chelsea said...

I would definately watch ! I love Josh and Anna, and am interested in seeing them start their family.

Anonymous said...

I agree, Anon 3:57, they just aren't very interesting. If I want to see silly public displays of affection, I'll drive over to my son's high school.

I personally don't find them to be role models. They were both sheltered, have very little education, and can't believe that they're out on their own and can have sex and watch TV! I would look to some of my church friends as role models before I did Joshie and Anna. My friends have a foster child, the wife works as an au pair, the husband teaches in a Christian school and is also in school himself and they are active, vital members of our church.

Anonymous said...

How do you think the Duggars got to be the way they are? Years of learning experience, trial and error, mistakes and corrections. It is sad to showcase Josh and Anna (and baby) with an audience expecting them to immediately snap into Duggar Mode. Jim Bob and Michelle had about 20 years of experience before they showed up on TV. Josh and Anna have had 0 years. That is putting so much pressure on them to have a perfect marriage and perfectly behaved children, all for the sake of a new program for TLC. Leave them alone!

Angie said...

PLEASE - Not a weekly show for J&A. I think they are great and I want to keep up with how things go and their family, etc. However, I love the WHOLE Duggar family and "18 kids" spans all the age categories and I want to also know what happens with all the other kids - not just J&A. As others have mentioned, I think it would be very interesting to see how things go with them, but I am more worried about them than I am curious about them. I think just keep them as part of the whole family and hopefully they won't end up like the other "celebrities" we know. Ha. I care about them but I also think they are too young and they might not realize what could happen. Just keep us updated on ALL of them -- let us know when they have the baby, etc.

Anonymous said...

There are some things about this cute young couple that concern me. Anna is slowly giving up control of everything to Josh. I noticed it when had Josh see the results of the pregnancy test before she did, as if her body and the control of it was his and not hers. One of the joys of motherhood is making the big announcement to the husband, "We are going to have a baby." But Josh decided who he was going to tell before he even told Anna. Not good. Anna, being so passive, is a willing participant, even encouraging setting the stage for more arrogant, controlling behavior from Josh. Even though I like the both of them immensely in terms of their characters, I can see where this is going and it's sad. A more secure, evolved man would insist on Anna being more assertive and together hash out the the issues that result from her being an individual person as they arise. With this kind of marriage, there is no work, only sublimation and sacrafice on the part of the woman and increasing control on the part of the man. It's painful to watch; it's not unlike two people in grade school playing house. That said, functioning from within each of their very narrow roles, I don't doubt that they will make loving parents to new baby.

Munchkn said...

Heavens, no! I'd not watch. In fact, I can barely watch 18 Kids anymore.

I totally agree with NotaKateFan: Enough already! I wish that TLC would give these shows about families a rest.

She Said What? said...

No way would I ever watch these two... Something about Josh bothers me greatly. I have no way of explaining it, he just bothers me. Like his father bothers me... I'm going to pass out if they get a show...

Joanna said...

These family shows are about all I watch anymore aside from Extreme Makeover Home Edition, gymnastics, NASCAR, and educational docutementries. I don't watch alot of Jon and Kate plus 8, but I'm grateful that there are some safe, family shows and a show that dosen't water down their Christian beliefs. I haven't seen alot on faith on Jon and Kate.

samcarter said...

PLEASE no. The first year of marriage is the hardest for many couples; more so, I'd think, for a couple that courted long-distance. They need a year to just adjust to being married and being new parents, not becoming a spin off of the "Duggar cash cow".

I think Jim Bob and Michelle had nobler intentions than the Gosselins; they have stated that they wanted, with their show, to encourage other quiverfull families. But Josh is annoying, not humble at all, and needs to focus on his business, his wife, and his new baby. Not a TV show.

SuzanneDeAZ said...

I certainly would watch that show. I hope they get their own contract. Maybe they can give the Gosselin's contract to them.

Willow #1 said...

I totally agree with Anonymous. I said right after the pregnancy announcement show that it was just weird that Josh got to tell Anna herself (I still can't believe that one - he even gets to read the test for her) but he also got to tell her parents and everyone else in the world. Young and impressionable girls might think "control freaks" are o.k. I don't think they are necessary.

Holiday said...

Hi all! I've been a long time lurker, but this is my first post.

I would watch a Josh and Anna show. From what I've seen on the show, I really dislike Josh. He seems so contrived. If all I ever saw were his clips from the show and I had no idea that it was a "reality show", I would say he was a horrible actor! Josh always appears to be performing for an audience.

Anna, on the other hand, seems to be a nice girl. I think what attracts me to her is that we're close in age, and yet our lives are so very different.

Sulmith said...

"I said right after the pregnancy announcement show that it was just weird that Josh got to tell Anna herself"

I read an explanation for this somewhere, was it here? (Sorry, senior moment.) Anyway, I believe it was Anna's idea as she had been taking a test every month and was tired of negative results so she asked Josh to look at it for her this time. She left it in the loo at their car lot.

"but he also got to tell her parents and everyone else in the world."

On the show they call her parents together.

Valerie said...

I'm afraid I would watch it, against my better judgment. Like many of you, I am really bothered by Josh's smug, self-righteous attitude.

Anna seems like a sweet girl, and I'm sad that she agreed to marry him so young, when they barely knew each other. If she'd just waited a year or two and gotten to know herself as an adult, she might have held out for a humbler, more genuine guy. But since she didn't, I am unfortunately fascinated by their bizarre marriage.

The constant touching is SO awkward and adolescent! When they were showing the camera crew around their beach house, they kept bumping into walls and door frames because they couldn't let go of each other for two seconds. Who does that?!

And I hate to admit it, but I am also really curious whether they actually consummated the marriage right away. Going from 0-60 in one night seems a little overwhelming. Poor Anna. I hope she isn't traumatized by a sex life that is all about her husband doing his manly duty to her...

Anonymous said...

I enjoy the Duggars as I see how they walk their talk. I used to watch Jon&Kate+8 and am really dissapointed in the way they treat each other and am unable to handle to put down that Kate is always throwing at Jon. They are to be a Christian family, but don't see that acted out in their show. I am sure it is difficult with all the children, but my mother had 6 of us in 7 years and that is almost like have sextuplets. I would hate to see them divorce since it is so destructive and I believe that Jon needs to seek the Word of the Lord on how to be the spiritual head of his home and Kate to be a wise woman and build her home and not tear it down.

Anonymous said...

Does anyone else find it disturbing that J&A are asking "America" for baby name ideas?

Anonymous said...

I believe Josh is simply trying to follow in the foot steps of his role model Jim Bob. Let's face it it's not like he's had the privilege of being around others who may have had influence in is life.

Due to the way the kids are sheltered, they have no opportunity to meet and interact with teachers, friends parents, or any one with a different lifestyle than they have at home. The homeschooling and family businesses and families like the Bates seem to be all they are allowed to associate with.

One has to wonder what will happen if one of the Duggar kids ever gets a chance to sample life outside their closed environment.

Sisi said...

This is OT. But I saw Erin Bates on Hulu and the film crew asked her about a scholarship she was offered after someone saw her play on the Duggar Wedding episode. I couldn't tell if she said that she took the scholarship or not. SHe is a very talented young woman but I have a feeling that the way she laughed it off meant that she declined the scholarship. I would think that perhaps her parents would consider it immodest for a young single girl to live on her own on campus someplace.
Anyone know anything?

Anonymous said...

I think Anna and Josh are lovely, but agree with the Pp that they are a bit young and "syrupy" almost. I like to just see them on 18 and counting, with a few of their own specials in there every now and again. I think that a whole series would be a bit boring and lah-tee-dah.. in a few years maybe. God Bless them, it is good to see young people opening expressing their beleifes.

Willow #1 said...

Sisi - What is Hulu? Anyway, I saw something on a re-run about Erin's dad bragging on her piano playing and about the scholarship. I also got the impression she didn't take it but she is teaching piano I think. I hope she is o.k. with that (not taking the scholarship). She plays beautifully.

Also, I am watching the re-run of the Bates family coming to help in the ice storm and I noticed 2 things I didn't notice before - After they show all the Bates in a line - they just show a close up of John David and Erin. (Probably doesn't mean anything, but...). Then, I see Gil in the little interview segment and he is bragging on John David. Coincidence? It is just too cute!!

To Sulmith: Yes, you are right about Anna not wanting to look at another test. I stand corrected on that one. I must have missed that the first time. I liked J&A both better in this episode about the go-carting.

Anonymous said...

I'm annoyed at Anna's comments about being so frustrated that she wasn't pregnant after 4 WHOLE MONTHS.

It was just a huge slap in the face to every couple out there that has had problems getting pregnant. So many couples try for years without any success.

So to have this little brat whining about not being pregnant after 4 months. UGH. I'm done with this show.

Anonymous said...

Learned this over on TWoP. Erin was offered a scholarship supposedly to Univ. of Tenn. but did not take it. Thoughts are that her father would NOT allow it. She is allowed to have a few piano students. Musn't get out into the world and see what you can become!

msrylee said...

After watching last night's episode, I definitely wouldn't view J&A's own show. Josh was arrogant, self-righteous and pious with regard to his "courtship" with Anna, compared to cousin Amy and her new boyfriend. Amy made it clear that she and her guy have just started dating. Whether Amy decides to kiss her guy, and have sex or whatever they choose to do, is their decision, not anyone elses. Not everyone waits for marriage to share their first kiss, and it doesn't make anyone less of a person if they have already kissed, or "done the dirty deed".

Josh has a lot to learn. His opinions and beliefs are not the only "right" ones.

Sami said...

I'm annoyed at Anna's comments about being so frustrated that she wasn't pregnant after 4 WHOLE MONTHS.What does that say about her self-worth? What if she never got pregnant on her own? Then what?

Proverbs 31 said...

I loved this eppy of J & A. I would watch a new show about their lives.

SavetheSheeples said...

Does anyone else find it disturbing that J&A are asking "America" for baby name ideas?I find it weird, too.

TLC is corrupting what once was nice, normal families.

The Duggars should have stuck with the occasional special/update show like they did in the past. I don't want to see them head down the same road as the Gosselins. And Josh seems to be milking this for all it's worth, I think. Everything is being documented with TLC cameras. If this is being done for memories, then they should use their own camera, IMO.

The Gosselins are a train wreck right now, and are the poster family for NOT putting your life on TV.

Anonymous said...

Oh please... those who are 'corruptd' choose to be.. be it the enticement of money or a lousy 15 mins. of fame. To say TV has corrupted a family is ludicrous. IMO, the Gosselins did it from the outset. Why would anyone do this to a family. Perhaps (to keep ontopic) the Duggars are choosing their ways of influence through the magic of technology. Just my opinion! Maya

PS The Gosselins are a bad example of money and fame twists real life. I dont agree with the religious ideals of the Duggars but they seem more normal to me.

SuzanneDeAZ said...

Is anyone going to start a new thread for the new show on Tuesday?

SuzanneDeAZ said...

Just cause she wanted to get pregnant sooner does not mean that Anna's self worth is tied to her becoming a mother. She just may have been worried she would never become a mom or had some fertility problem. Even though we know that 4 months of trying with no results may be normal her mind may not be thinking that.

SuzanneDeAZ said...

I did not see Josh being self righteous in this show cause his believes are different from Amy'[s. It was Amy's idea to show respect by not kissing on the date knowing it is against the Duggar's belief system. I would have done the same thing. Even if I do not agree with one's belief system I would refrain from doing anything in their presence that may offend them. Not that hard to do.

Anonymous said...

I think it's a shame if the Bates dad prevented his daughter from accepting a college scholarship. Hopefully, Erin had some input into this. I will say that she would be one lost sole on the campus of UT and that's a shame. I just don't understand the mindset of keeping your children isolated from the world and not letting them experience life.

I suspect there is some fear on the parent's part that the child might actually grow up and have their own ideas and opt for a different lifestyle, therefore ending parent domination.

On another note, a show of Josh and Josh and Josh and Anna (intentionally so many Joshes) would grow old very quickly.

celtic-thistle said...

OH PLEASE NO. Josh is such a control freak and Anna has no personality or interests other than being a baby cannon. Of all the TLC families, the Duggars bother me the most. I just can't get over the sexism.

Shari said...

The Duggar Show has actually grown on me ... somewhat. (Well, anything would compared to the Jon & Kate fiasco, right?) Whether or not you agree with their philosophies or not, they're respectful of each other, and family is their number one priority.

That being said, Josh & Anna having their own show is NOT a good idea. Just watching that episode last night was borderline excruciating. Bland, boring, repetitive, etc .... It's fine when they make an occasional appearance and we'll obviously want updates on the baby, but they just don't have what it takes to carry a show.

B.MO said...

Shari said...

That being said, Josh & Anna having their own show is NOT a good idea. Just watching that episode last night was borderline excruciating. Bland, boring, repetitive, etc .... It's fine when they make an occasional appearance and we'll obviously want updates on the baby, but they just don't have what it takes to carry a show.
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And I couldn't agree more, on top of what you listed "Bland, boring, repetitive, etc..." I'd like to add ANNOYING. They just annoyed me real quick! Not to mention Amy and her boyfriend, I completely understand where she's coming from as far as "respect for her family" and I'm sure this was very well appreciated but its obvious she is totally different than her cousins. I believe she's just on this show for exposure since she does try to promote her CD and all. She was trying to "teach" her own cousin (Josh) how to kiss on the wedding episode...so he knows she's not into courting and all that. Why ask her NEW boyfriend what he can bring to a marriage and all?! That was annoying and painful to watch...

Anonymous said...

I was deeply disturbed by Anna's behavior at the Dr. office. It seems this girl has never been to an OB/GYN. She clung to Josh and behaved like a three year old child. She was scared to death. When the Doctor advised that they were going to preform an Internal Ultrasound the expression on Anna's face was one of total fear. The Doctor was asking Anna questions and Anna was looking to Josh to answer them which he did. I find this very disturbing.
This child does not need to be pregnant.

Anonymous said...

I agree with your comments, Anonymous 3:43. If Anna was freaked out with her first OB checkup, wow, is she in for it! You might as well throw all modesty out the window because by the time that baby gets ready to put in an appearance, everyone and his dog will have had a peep at your privates!

SaraL said...

Anonymous, I completely agree! She really was acting like a scared child who was clinging to her father.

Also, I noticed that she's afraid to say anything slightly negative about him. Im not saying she needs to be ugly or nasty or disrespectful. But when they asked her about Josh always being late, she erupted in a fit of giggles and ended up saying something like, "Oh, I love how diligent he is with his work."

And speaking of being late. I looked up the "character qualities" that Michelle is always talking about (on their webpage). One of them is about the importance of punctuality (vs. tardiness). I know I'm being too harsh right now, but when you're on TV touting your values, you better walk the walk!

Kathryn said...

I'm agnostic and I still like watching the Duggars. There's just something so honest and refreshing about them.
I don't agree with having so many dang kids but that's just my opinion.
I used to be a huge fan of Jon/Kate + 8 but that show grew old awfully quick. Way too fake and always wanting freebies. I don't see ANY of that with the Duggars.
Would I watch a show about Josh & Anna? Yes, most likely I would.
By the way, I think Michelle Duggar is very pretty and looks more like one of her kids than their mother!

Tammy C said...

Anna must not have known too much about getting pregnant if she was upset after 4months and still not pregnant.Give me a break!I am sure it was expected of her to get pregnant on the honeymoon- like did they plan the date to know when she would be ovulating!

I would have to say with the new home PG tests it does bother me that they can done so soon.The old way of waiting until you were at least 2 weeks was the best.Then if you were late by a few days the test could still come up positive rather then doing 4 tests in one month until one comes out positive.

Anonymous said...

Did anyone else see Josh filling out Anna's papers at the OB? He just comes across as extremely controlling.

BoyMomInTX said...

I have to stand up for Anna on this one. I was 18 when I had my first baby and I had only had like 2 or 3 annual well-woman check-ups at that time. They were still pretty scary for me (still are!), and then you're pregnant, not sure what to expect and it's overwhelming. She will get a little more used to it, although never comfortable I'd guess since they are so modest in everyday life. It's just that first baby and pregnancy thing. You have no idea what to expect. Delivery day was damn scary for me too, but by the time I had my second baby, 3 years later, I knew what to expect going in and was a lot less scared.

Candy Tuft said...

Did anyone else see Josh filling out Anna's papers at the OB? He just comes across as extremely controlling._____________________________________
I agree with this. How would Josh know the answers to the myriad of questions they ask an expectant mother? He barely knows her! This was her first appointment! I'm afraid that Anna is very much a child and not ready to step out into the world and be a grownup.

I am not impressed with Josh's manners. Good manners seem to be important to Michelle but yet Josh interrupts people, he talks over Anna, and when she pointed out that they were going to be late to her first appointment, he said the doctor would wait on them. Very disrespectful and a sign to me that Josh is indeed arrogant.

Anonymous said...

If they do get their own show, I hope, no I beg on bended knee, that someone in the TLC makeup department will help Anna with a better hair style! I don't understand the plastered down bangs and the whole wet gel look. She has a lovely face and maybe just a little bit of help with her hair would help complete her fresh look. Heaven help her though if the Duggar girls get hold of her and give her one of their bad perms!

jonandkatewho? said...

Anonymous said...

Does anyone else find it disturbing that J&A are asking "America" for baby name ideas?

5/12/2009 12:35 PM
Hell yes! I find that very disturbing, are they really asking that?

They definitely don't need a show. What with everything that's been going down in Gosselin-ville lately all we need is another show where some young people allow the cameras into their lives. Please don't allow that to happen to this new little baby who isn't even born yet.



Oh, and I hope they don't choose all "J" names for their kids!

Mom to 2 said...

Maybe Anna doesn't read well
enough to fill out the form....

SuzanneDeAZ said...

I do not think that having a husband fill out a medical report as controlling. It may be just him being helpful. I am sure she was next to him giving him the information needed. If my husband wants to fill out the forms I am that more the happier. I do not see it as controlling.

Anonymous said...

I disagree. I fill out my own forms, DH fills out his, and now that my kids are old enough, they fill out theirs. My son got sick in college and had to go to the infirmary. Mama wasn't there to fill out the forms so it was a good thing that he knew what to do. Oops, I forgot....Anna went straight from her father's house to Josh's house, so no experiences of her own to rely on. I feel for Anna being so subservient this early in her marriage. Josh is always going to call the shots and she won't have much of an opinion about anything. Hope she gets to say that she doesn't want the whole Duggar clan in her delivery room when the baby is born. I think that should be a private time between a husband and wife.

ffemtmomof4 said...

I also see nothing wrong with Josh filling out the forms. My husband fills out forms when they need filled out because his handwriting is alot better than mine.

Mom of 2 said...

Maybe Anna is trying to cover up a scar with her plastered down
bangs- I hope so because it is
a very outdated hairdo!
Do any of the Duggar girls have
this bang thing going on? Their
hairstyles are a bit better but
we don't see them as much as we
see Anna lately....

Anna's life has changed so much lately- leaving her family- marrying Josh- getting pregnant
and the whole thing is
televised for us to see!!
I think we have to give her
time to adjust to all of this.
Imagine if our lives were
televised in our early twenties!

Anonymous said...

Has anyone considered that perhaps Anna was not feeling well enough to fill out her own papers? Please give the girl a break. She has her life on reality TV and that can not be easy for anyone. I find her sweet though a bit naive but then..consider her age is only 20. I am amazed how unkind some of the posters are and how very critical. I wonder how you would deal with this? Maya

Spic and Span said...

Isn't the title of this blog, "Duggars Without Pity?" Why should the Duggars get a free pass? If you put your life on TV and accept lots of money for doing so, the rest of us are allowed to discuss what we see. If you alert the media that you have fathered a child, then we are going to comment on you filling out your wife's paperwork in the OB's office.

As for where I was when I was 20, I was at a huge state university earning two degrees in science. After that I got a Master's degree. After THAT, THEN I got married THEN I had children. Said children are now grown and in top colleges themselves.

If Anna was nauseous at the doctor's office then she should have told her husband in no uncertain terms that she did NOT want to be on camera! Somewhere along the way, she is going to have to stand up for what Anna wants or Anna needs. Josh is spoiled and self-centered and she had better train him while she can. She is a married woman now and not a teenage girl who is afraid the cool boy is going to break up with her.

Joanna said...

When I have standard nausea or menstrual cramps I don't feel like doing anything except laying down and cringing. Since I've never been pregnant, I can't imagine how ick Anna must have felt.

Anonymous said...

In response to where we all were when we were 20, I was in school, work, and just learning to deal with life. I dont fault someone who chooses a lifestyle different from mine unless it inhibits my beliefs. I was only saying why be so harsh? The Duggar family seems to deal with reality TV better than the infamous Gosselins. Enough said. Maya

Anonymous said...

Wow, Spic & Span, a little holier than thou, are we? What do your colleges and degrees have to do with anything? It's great you went to college, and it's great you earned two science degrees. Are you looking for validation?

Paragraphs one and three actually referenced the show; paragraph two was nothing but self-validation. Leave that at the door.

Anonymous said...

I think Anna is a shy person who is intimidated by the cameras and uncertain how to act when they're rolling. Josh, on the other hand, can't get enough camera time. He's extremely comfortable and has had so much more exposure to them than Anna and apparently thrives on being seen and heard. He sure has quite an ego. For those who commented on how she acted at the OB/Gyn's office, think about the fact that she is very young and naive. She's also coped with a huge lifestyle change in the last few months, not the least of which is being married to a virtual stranger and adapting to his mega family.

msrylee said...

With regard to Anna's behaviour at the ob-gyn's office, she is twenty years old, married a few months to a partner she doesn't know very well (as per their courtship rules), is suffering with morning sickness all the time, and is understandably anxious about the check-up. I wasn't surprised in the least with her responses at the doctor's office.

I'm not saying I agree with her choices and decisions, but I can understand her behaviour.

Anonymous said...

To those who posted in agreement with my comments about a little more understanding regarding the huge changes Anna faces... thanks. I was just trying to convey the point that cutting her some slack would not be unkind. To brag about your degrees, your life, is just that bragging as well as OT (offtopic) Peace, Maya

Anonymous said...

Great, finally found a blog that I can vent my thoughts to. First off, i agree with all of you about everything you all have said. Howeve, This is my thoughts on Josh and his puppet Anna. In reality I kind of feel bad for Anna. Apparently, her home schooling failed her. It seemed that she was taught the selected fundamentals of life. Such as marrying and bearing children. I believe she was manipulated by her parents on what it is she should learn. When she talks it sounds like she only has a 4th grade educational level under her belt. "AnywayS" need I say more??? When visiting the baby doc. for the first time, I have to say it was so uncomfortable to watch. Yes, she is young and naive but, if you are ready for the responsibilities to become a mom, step up to the plate and dont act like such a moron. I think josh is going to get sick of this act soon. I dont feel like he is much like the dad and his puppet mama. Seriously, he is a used car saleman scheister. Truthfully, I think he is very fond of the way cousin Amy is. (BTW Amy, coolest one on the show), Not that I am saying he is interested in her but I think he wished he could have that type of girl... Ok, I could be totaly off on this but I do not think Josh is like the rest of the cult. hey stay tuned....

Anonymous said...

Please don't encourage them to have their own show. Josh is an arrogant jerk. I can't believe that he thought that the DR would wait for them if he was late for the appointment. The Duggar's are no better that Kate and Jon, they are just pimping their children for $$$. Quit encouraging these mega families to be on TV, this is what causes situations like OCTOMOM
Secondly, it would be a boring show. Josh and Anna have nothing to offer except they are going to have a baby, big deal!!!!!!!

ACN said...

I too was a little put off by Josh answering questions for Anna. I also thought that when the nurse was asking *Anna* questions, Josh needed to keep his mouth shut.

My husband doesn't know the answers to the questions nurses ask. He sits there and keeps his mouth shut. I suffered from horrible all day long sickness, yet I was still able to answer questions about my pregnancy when prompted. Nausea isn't an excuse for not answering the nurses questions.

Maybe Josh is just more hands on than most husbands...but he needs to give Anna a chance to speak for herself.

Anonymous said...

"Nausea isn't an excuse for not answering the nurses questions."

Agreed.

"Yes, she is young and naive but, if you are ready for the responsibilities to become a mom, step up to the plate and dont act like such a moron"

Agreed again.

Hate to sound so harsh, because I love Anna, and I think she's doing the best she can in this WEIRD situation she calls life.
BUT, Part of being an adult and growing up is putting on a brave face even when you're scared to death.

NotMyFamily said...

"BUT, Part of being an adult and growing up is putting on a brave face even when you're scared to death."

Well put.

The bottom line is, no matter your feelings about premarital sex, CHILDREN need to be MATURE enough for everything regarding sex--the good stuff, the complicated stuff, the risk of pregnancy, sexually-transmitted diseases or even heaven forbid, AIDS.

All the Duggar family did is give these kids 'permission' to have sex. Josh and Anna have the 'license' but lack the maturity.

Emily Tolliver said...

It would be intresting to see how the next generation takes the vaues and rules and really abides by them, evolves with them, and applies them to their new child. How will they do on their own? Will they be as structured as momma duggar?

DennyW said...

A show with Josh and Anna running at different times of the year than "18 and Counting" wouldn't be so bad. :)

msrylee said...

IMO, it is parents' responsibilities to educate and teach their children about ALL aspects of life, and that includes sex education. Telling a young person they need to save their first kiss, and obviously their first sexual experience until the marriage ceremony is not teaching about sex. There is so much more they need to learn. Anna has just begun her sexual life and now is pregnant soon after her marriage. I agree that if her first ob-gyn check-up was difficult, the rest of the pregnancy and delivery and post-natal checks will prove embarassing and immodest. Such is life. This is reality.

Anonymous said...

I think Joshia should get his own show. I think he is a riot!

Terra said...

In the book the parents wrote, they mention not having a tv for the first year of their marriage. It's supposedly to help the couple concentrate on each other. I'd imagine it's the same way for J&A.

Anonymous said...

Please, no Josh & Anna spin off.

Reasons:
1) Anna's hair
2) Like Jom Bob, Josh doesn't know when to stop talking

Anonymous said...

I've heard a saying "the apple doesn't fall very far from the tree". I think that's pretty true in this case. Even though Josiah is much younger than Josh he's also surely his father's son. I think a show featuring either Josh or Josiah would be pretty hard to stomach.

I understand the Duggars have a unique lifestyle and they live their beliefs and I respect that.
That said, they also exhibit a lot of ego and self-righteousness and I don't know of any religion that would condone self-righteousness.

Jenni said...

Anonymous said...

I understand the Duggars have a unique lifestyle and they live their beliefs and I respect that.
That said, they also exhibit a lot of ego and self-righteousness and I don't know of any religion that would condone self-righteousness.

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When someone holds beliefs that set them apart from the majority, it's logical to conclude that they believe the majority is wrong. Obviously, the Duggars believe that they are right and others are not. This is the nature of anybody who has unique beliefs.

The Duggars are clearly proud of their religion. I imagine they participate in the show because they want others to understand their ideas. It's unfair to assume, however, that because they advocate one position, they disrespect the other. Just because they think they are "right," doesn't make them "self-righteous."

I, too, find myself feeling a bit defensive when I hear one of the Duggars say something I believe is over the top or "too" Christian. I admit, though, that I tend to overreact and become defensive when someone so confidently maintains a position that I know is rediculous.

I've never seen any of the Duggars behave self-righteously or with a condescending ego. If anything, I think they are too humble. Of couse, maybe I've missed something. Maybe you could give some specific examples?

Alex said...

The Duggar lifestyle is not for me and I do think they are a bit goofy but I have a hard time hating them. They don't seem so into it for the money like J&K do. I think Jim Bob and Josh LOVE the camera but it doesn't seem like they are doing the stuff *for* the camera. More just that while its there they are having a good time with it and I really don't see them turning into the Gosselins in the long run.

alphieandcheasmith said...

Did anyone else think that the dr. seemed annoyed by Josh and Anna??? She sure didn't act the same way she did with Michelle and Jim Bob.

SuzanneDeAZ said...

"

I, too, find myself feeling a bit defensive when I hear one of the Duggars say something I believe is over the top or "too" Christian. I admit, though, that I tend to overreact and become defensive when someone so confidently maintains a position that I know is rediculous.

I've never seen any of the Duggars behave self-righteously or with a condescending ego. If anything, I think they are too humble. Of couse, maybe I've missed something. Maybe you could give some specific examples?"

I totally agree. I wanted to say this but your words express how I feel. I do not seem them as self righteous at all.

TandLMommy28 said...

I was not raised in nearly the conservative environment as Josh and Anna were, however I attended an extremely conservative Christian College (I'm talking, I dated my husband for two years and we weren't allowed to hold hands). I enjoy watching Josh and Anna because to me they are not an oddity. There were many, many people in my college who were raised that way. One year I had roommates with seven and eight siblings respectively. When they found out that I was from a family of three kids, one of them asked "Did your mom die or something?" So the entire world of the Duggars to me is familiar and comfortable. I enjoy seeing them on TV since it reminds me of some of the interesting people I met throughout my college career.

I love Josh and Anna and I would watch their show. I do wonder how things will turn out for them only because while my college encouraged us to not have any physical contact, just like Josh and Anna, they did encourage us to know EVERYTHING about each other. THere has never been a surprise between my husband and I. We knew every little secret, every weird habit, etc (Hey, when you have two whole years to do nothing but talk, you really know a person!). But it seems that Josh and Anna were saying things about getting to know each other after they were already married and that is weird to me. So I am interested to see how all of that plays out. Jim Bob and Michelle had a more normal dating relationship than Josh and Anna. So I just wonder how it works when two total strangers marry, completely trusting God that it's the right person even if they barely know each other. I have no doubt that they will see it through but I am interested to watch how it unfolds.

As for Josh being arrogant, he's twenty-one years old. When was the last time you met a twenty-one year old male who was not arrogant or did not think he had all the answers? My brother is 21 and he is the exact same way. Josh is going to have a baby and life is going to happen and I think he will be quickly humbled.

Anonymous said...

"As for Josh being arrogant, he's twenty-one years old. When was the last time you met a twenty-one year old male who was not arrogant or did not think he had all the answers?"

Let me just say, I've NEVER met a 21 year old male that acts like Josh. It doesn't matter if you're 21 or 51; If a person is arrogant, he always will be. It's unfair to say that most males that are 21 are arrogant because that is simply not true.

NotMyFamily said...

Please oh Please--do not speak that insufferable Josiah getting his own show (the one who said "Amy isn't like us but we like her anyway"!.)

This kid is a child-sized version of some of the grown men who held high positions in the church I attended as a child. The same arrogance, chauvinistic smugness seen about those men as they sat self-rightously behind a preacher who was telling everyone else what to do and that everything else is a sin.

Josiah is a miniature Josh--cut from the same cloth!

Hmmm, self-rightious, smug, arrogant, chavanistic--I think the "Cloth" is named JimBob.

Anonymous said...

I agree that Josh certainly isn't typical of all 21 year olds. I have a 21 year old son and see he and his friends as they are finishing their educations, beginning their careers and just generally enjoying life. They act nothing at all like Josh. He was arrogant as a teenager when he "narrated" their shows, he's arrogant at 21 and he'll be arrogant at 81.

His arrogance about "courtship" has gotten very hard to stomach.

What may work for Josh doesn't necessarily work for the vast majority of people and I get tired of hearing about the whole nine yards - courtship, never kissing until they were married, speaking over Anna when she does dare to say something.

Certainly, they are entitled to their lifestyle and their convictions, but so are all of the rest of us.

Joanna said...

I haven't figured out how to start a new topic. I've been wondering about the Pigeon Forge Welcome pictures. There is an extra girl in there and it dosen't seem like cousin Amy. I'm not refering to Anna, there is another girl the two photos I've seen pictured with the Duggars. I'm wondering who she is. Anyone know?

http://www.knoxville.com/news/2009/may/13/18-kids-reality-tv-family-may-expand/?partner=RSS

Joanna said...

I personally don't see what's wrong with Anna's hair. I think it's beauitful, straight or curly. (I perfer curly)

Anonymous said...

Joanna - I see what you are talking about. the girl standing between Jill and Jessa. I think she looks a little like Anna's sister, the one who chaperoned them back to Arkansas. ?? It doesn't look like a Bates girl.

Jenni said...

NotMyFamily said...

Please oh Please--do not speak that insufferable Josiah getting his own show (the one who said "Amy isn't like us but we like her anyway"!.)

This kid is a child-sized version of some of the grown men who held high positions in the church I attended as a child. The same arrogance, chauvinistic smugness seen about those men as they sat self-rightously behind a preacher who was telling everyone else what to do and that everything else is a sin.

Josiah is a miniature Josh--cut from the same cloth!

Hmmm, self-rightious, smug, arrogant, chavanistic--I think the "Cloth" is named JimBob.


****

With all due respect to your belief that the Duggars sit in smug judgement of people like yourself, I've never heard them refer to others whom they disagree with as "self-rightious, smug, arrogant" and "chavanistic."

MeMommaMo said...

Actually, the only thing I can't stand about Anna is her hair... it just seems plastered to the top of her head. She is a pretty girl, her hair just needs some volume.

Willow #1 said...

I think Josiah is just a little guy - not arrogant yet. I don't think we should confuse "arrogance" with just having an outgoing personality. It could be Josiah is just an animated talker - like Jinger. Give him a chance. I think he does a great job with the narrating.

UnOrganicManic said...

Wow I am just watching the show now. Its a recent rerun with Michelle and the family preparing for the birth of the newest baby. In the baby store one of the little boys was dancing or "not-dancing"/moving to some music from a toy. One of the crew asked about it. Apparently the kids aren't allowed to dance???? Where in the Bible does it say though shalt not dance????

Anonymous said...

"I personally don't see what's wrong with Anna's hair. I think it's beauitful, straight or curly. (I perfer curly)"

Seriously, what anna has is a home perm kit style. the wet look we used to wear back in the 80's. I think it was Toni's home perm kit.

Anonymous said...

Anna's hair doesn't bother me. However,the matching shirts do. There is so much immaturity and naivety in Anna's actions, but I credit that to the way she's been raised. On top of that, she went from her Father's house to her husband's house and it all fits in the same mold so the trend will continue.

I guess the bottom line is that most of us have been brought up so differently that we have difficulty understanding the Duggar ways. Looking at it from their perspective, they probably don't understand us either.

Natalie said...

I believe the Duggars do not allow dancing because they believe it can incite lust.(there was no dancing at Anna and Josh's wedding) Which is why they say that the little one's are "jumping for joy", because obviously they are just moving to the music and have no understanding of the concept of "lust".

Paige said...

Does anybody know if any episode summaries are forthcoming? I have a weird work schedule and it's hard to catch the show but I'd still like to know what happens.

From what I've seen, I think J&A got married way too soon. Not necessarily from a chronological age standpoint, but they didn't know each other at all. Anna didn't know Josh likes to sleep late? Come on.

I also think they're too immature for parenting. I know that young people have kids all the time, but a vast majority of them haven't been sheltered the way J&A have.

Sharla said...

There are no plans for recaps of the Duggars at this time. Sorry, but we are all on overload.

UnOrganicManic said...

"Natalie said...

I believe the Duggars do not allow dancing because they believe it can incite lust.(there was no dancing at Anna and Josh's wedding) Which is why they say that the little one's are "jumping for joy", because obviously they are just moving to the music and have no understanding of the concept of "lust"."

Heh, I see. Well call it what you want. In any case it's a little over board. And what does calling it something different teach the kids....10 years later the kid will say "I wasn't kissing that girl, I just jumped for joy onto her lips!" What ARE those kids allowed to do??

Anonymous said...

"What ARE those kids allowed to do??"

jurisdictions.

NotMyFamily said...

UnOrganic Manic says:
"the baby store one of the little boys was dancing or "not-dancing"/moving to some music from a toy. One of the crew asked about it. Apparently the kids aren't allowed to dance???? Where in the Bible does it say though shalt not dance????"

This is exactly one of the incidents I was thinking about when I referred to JimBob as being self-righteous and arrogant!!

Since I apparently said it wrong--In My Opinion, JimBob is self- righteous and somewhat arrogant. You can hear it in his voice as he explains patiently to us all why music can be 'sin'. He is also chauvanistic, IMO, because when Michelle is without makeup (not that she doesnt have a good complexion!), wearing long hair and dowdy clothing--he is all spiffy in his new-looking polos and khakis or one of those suits that definitely didn't come from Goodwill. The same with the boys' clothing compared to the girls'.

Also-When they talked about courtship and JB said that Michelle came with 'baggage' because she had dated before! That would have hurt my feelings. How much 'baggage' could she have had?!

I still stick with my original Opinion--Josh and Johsia are both just like their Dad, and I am not referring to his "good" qualities!

nccalgal said...

When they talked about courtship and JB said that Michelle came with 'baggage' because she had dated before! That would have hurt my feelings. How much 'baggage' could she have had?!

I don't know much about Michelle's background, but often times, when a boy pays attention to a young girl who may not have a lot of confidence, she has a tendency to fall head over heels for him. He may just see her as a "date", but she thinks "this is it". He moves on and she is crushed. Ever the optimist, she is sure the next one is it. Most of us see it as a "life lesson", but to others it's "baggage".

Anonymous said...

This is what happens when you homeschool your children. They have no concept of reality.

And I agree about Anna's hair. I think I wore my hair like that when I was 12. Also, it does bear resemblance to the other Duggar girls.

I think I would only watch J&A, if they got their own show, just to laugh about it later.

Childlike Otter said...

celtic-thistle said...

OH PLEASE NO. Josh is such a control freak and Anna has no personality or interests other than being a baby cannon. Of all the TLC families, the Duggars bother me the most. I just can't get over the sexism.Haha, baby cannon, nice...

The sexism in this family is probably what bothers me the most. Its like, girls clean, take care of babies, and completely submit their bodies to a man some day. And the men? They do "mens work" and then play around...

I'm done with TLC...

Grace said...

Regarding Michelle's alleged "baggage"...

She was married at the ripe old age of 17. She and Jim Bob were supposedly dating around the age of 16. So, how much baggage could a 16 year old girl possibly have? I don't buy it. Maybe she got her heart broken, but that does not ruin a girl... as most of us probably know ;)

maria said...

I think the 'baggage' that Jim Bob is referring to is the fact that Michelle had a relationship with someone before him, involving kissing (oh no!) and I don't think he liked the fact that Michelle had a relationship with ANYONE at all prior to him. That is just my take on it.

Anonymous said...

GOOD GRIEF!! WILL IT HAPPEN AGAIN?! THE NEWLY WED DUGGERS FOLLOWING IN THE PARENTS' FOOTSTEPS?
SEX, SEX, SEX. BABBIES, BABBIES, BABBIES.
WIFES BEING BABY MACHINES.
THE MOTHER OF ALL THOSE KIDS ALREADY LOOKS 20 YEARS OLDER THAN WHAT SHE IS. ALSO, SHE LOOKS LIKE SHE IS EITHER BRAIN WASHED OR EATING FUNNY MUSHROOMS.
STOP THIS NONSENSE YOU PEOPLE. THERE ARE ALREADY TOO ANY PEOPLE IN THE WORLD. WHY, YOU SO CALLED RELIGIOUS PEOPLE, CAN'T YOU ADOPT SOME ORPHANS? OR DON'T YOU CARE ABOUT ANYONE BUT YOURSELVES?

Snowflake said...

I think that JB making a point to use Michelle as a "bad example" in front of the children with her "baggage" is unacceptable. ALL of the children have heard the story and repeat it to the cameras. I believe that "family scandals" should be revealed when the children are old enough to understand, and not in an unflattering light when it involves one of their parents, such as an early child being born out of wedlock and put up for adoption...

That would not be a tale a family would want repeated at a kindergarten show and tell session, but in later years, it would be a life lesson to share with teens and tweens about consequences.

I think it's also revealing that JB disses Michelle's baggage, but then says that he and her didn't wait until their wedding for their first kiss. He seems to think that pretty "innocent" yet it still goes against what they are teaching their children about courtship, etc.

I don't understand how a woman could "adore" a man that was so spiteful about her past. If he were so worried about it, maybe he should have spoke up a year sooner than he did to date her and maybe he could have saved her all that baggage!

Whatever...

SuzanneDeAz said...

Maria said:

"I think the 'baggage' that Jim Bob is referring to is the fact that Michelle had a relationship with someone before him, involving kissing (oh no!) and I don't think he liked the fact that Michelle had a relationship with ANYONE at all prior to him. That is just my take on it. "

Come with baggage, a term used among fundies can mean a variety of things. It can mean kissing or even fornication, however it may mean "having your heart broken". If you listen carefully to Josiah as he was becoming engaged he talked about not having any type of relationship before courtship as one would be tempted to give their "heart" to another and then if it turns out bad ones heart is broken. I think of of the girls too talked about giving their heart away. It goes beyond a physical relationship. I have studied the "courtship" belief among fundies and that is one of their big deals against "dating". They believe dating sets one up for divorce being that many young people date various potential mates during their youth before they get serious and as a result of all of this "breaking up" they learn not to trust the opposite and by bringing a broken heart into the new relationship they are bringing "baggage".


http://www.tkc.com/resources/resources-pages/datingbw.html



http://www.momof9splace.com/court.html

Enda said...

celtic-thistle said...

OH PLEASE NO. Josh is such a control freak and Anna has no personality or interests other than being a baby cannon. Of all the TLC families, the Duggars bother me the most. I just can't get over the sexism.
___________________________

This. Josh is an arrogant jerk who treats Anna like an appliance.

When they were at the OB/GYN's office and Josh was answering all of the Doctor's questions for Anna, it was like watching someone describe to a mechanic what was wrong with their car, or to a vet about how long their dog has been sick. I also get the dog/owner vibe off of them when he leads her around holding her hand. It's like he considers her his property and it just makes my skin crawl.

It is obvious Josh was raised in a sexist household. When parents teach their children that men are "worth" more than women their sons become arrogant and disrespectful towards women, and I definitely see that in Josh. The way he treats Anna reminds me of my abusive ex (who was the exact opposite belief-wise, he was an atheist). It's too bad, because I think Anna is a sweet girl with lots of potential that's going to waste being this loser's "baby cannon". Please, no Josh and Anna show, unless it's a documentary on how NOT to behave in a marriage.

Willow #1 said...

Thanks for the links, Suzanne. My take on that had mirrored Maria's idea more than any other - but now I will read it for myself. I don't mean to defend JB, as I have critisized their chauvenism on several occasions, but in regards to his hair spray and hair-do, etc., I think the girls use plenty of hair products and makeup, don't they? It looks like Michelle doesn't wear a whole lot of makeup, but I disagree that she looks old. I have always thought just the opposite, that she looks and acts really young for her age and the amount of children she has.

As I have stated before, my biggest concern is that the girls can't go to college etc. before marriage. The men are afraid of losing control and the mom's don't want to lose the help around the house. Am I wrong? I do agree with the homeschooling in today's world, though, for the younger kids. The safety issue is just so important now days, but the other reasons? No.

Anonymous said...

It's all about control for Jim Bob and now for Josh with his new family. It's only my opinion, but I feel the girls in the Bates and Duggar families are raising their younger siblings while the mom just continues to add to the litter. It seems so unfair that their lives consist of home schooling, jurisdictions and seeing only the people their dad will allow them to see. I wonder why some of them haven't rebelled by now.

UnOrganicManic said...

Good thing Jim Bob came along and save Michelle from all that "baggage" before she did something really stupid like got a higher education and learned things like critical thinking.

UnOrganicManic said...

Hmm another thought....but something is just wrong about having a child the same age as your GRAND child....

Anonymous said...

i think it's a shame that these children (boys and girls) are so sheltered. They have no clue what the world outside their mega family and church is like. The strict assignment of jurisdictions by sex is so outdated in my opinion. Also, what is going to happen when all the older girls are married off to their arranged husbands and Michelle is left to raise and care for all those little boys.

The kids are all so naive - even Mr. Egotistical (Josh). It's so sad that he apparently thinks Drs have nothing better to do than wait till he decides to show up for an appointment.

Anonymous said...

If Michelle pushes out another baby, I think its time to committ them both. I think the ones that are getting rob here are the children. How can a child feel loved and feel special when they do not get the one on one nuturing that they deserve. They probably grow up so confused as to who is their mother, is it my sister or Michelle. I have never seen Michelle take a child out for some quality time one on one. At least J&K made it a point to take each child out seperatley for the day to have a true bonding experience. I feel that is so important for a child to feel loved and important.
This is like a game to them, oh lets see how many babies we can make. So who are the selfish ones here???

CappuccinoLife said...

I think a few specials would be fun. I'd hate to see it degenerate into something like J&K+8 though I think Josh and Anna would deal with it better, lol. I just can't see Anna making it a regular practice to cut her husband's feet off.

The appeal for me is that they are my peers (or close, I'm a bit older). I love Ma and Pa Duggar but they are *way* past where I am. It'd be neat to see someone like me, young, conservative, just starting out with a family.

I am sure Josh would loooooooove his "own" show. He seems to really like the exposure. He's a kid, really. A nice kid. But young people have a tendency to be a bit know-it-all, regardless of their belief sets. I think his upbringing will stand the test of time and he just needs some of those sharp corners knocked off. Fatherhood will probably take him down a notch or two. ;)

B said...

If they don't show one on one tim eon the show, I merely think it's because it's their time, not showtime. They are rather private people and that's a special time for those children. I think as a kid I would feel resentful having to share one-on-one personal time with my parent and a camera crew.

Enough with the Multiples said...

Re: At least J&K made it a point to take each child out seperatley for the day to have a true bonding experience.

I'm not disputing that it's time for Michelle's birthing days to come to an end but I'd hardly look at Jon and Kate as an example of better parenting. I'm quite sure the day out with the kids separately was a suggested and staged set of shows/events by TLC to address the critics that made that very claim....damage control is what it was. But hey, if you write enough to TLC about the Duggars, maybe each one of them will get a day out with Jim Bob and Michelle courtesy of TLC. Actually, while they are a large family, I'd still have to say that Jim Bob and Michelle spend way more time with their kids than Kate does. Michelle atleast seemed genuinely concerned about them and missing them when her and Jim Bob went to San Fransico. I don't think Kate is missing hers while she's away on her book tour. And atleast Michelle took the whole family to NYC with her on Mother's Day (last year). Let's not forget that Kate was laying around a Manhattan hotel room minus Jon + 8 this Mother's Day (also the tups b-day!)

Anonymous said...

"If they don't show one on one tim eon the show, I merely think it's because it's their time, not showtime. They are rather private people and that's a special time for those children. I think as a kid I would feel resentful having to share one-on-one personal time with my parent and a camera crew."

I DONT BUY IT!!! All due respect B, however PRIVATE PEOPLE, they are not. What do you call the cameras in there living room filming to air on national tv. Even a private moment of findint out if the pee stick reads positive or negative,thatis just a load. perhaps it is editting, and it doesnt make airtime none the less I have never heard either one mention one time that they like to have quality time one on one. I am not saying bring the cameras on this special day all I am merely saying is it is just not said, that they have those sort of special days.
call it what you wish but I do not make this stuff up.

Poetry said...

I don't dislike the Duggars, I'm not a believer of their teachings.

The thing that bothers me the most are the set gender roles.

If they are teaching that each child should marry and have big families, why are they not teaching the boys AND girls what it take to raise a family? Being fluid in what is done by both the husband and wife.
God forbid a spouse should die, will their children know how to run ALL aspects of a family? Why are the girls stuck taking care of the smaller children? Why aren't the household duties split among ALL the children (boys cook and clean and the girls do yard work and such?) I've had many a bible class ( I attend a private religious university) and no where in the bible does it say that men can't raise children, cook and clean.

I believe the Duggars are sad case of when religion is used to control and dominate.

I wish them the best

Anonymous said...

Jim Bob and Michelle have both stated several times that they were married a few years before having children. Of course that meant that they were using the cursed birth control pills. But at least they knew each other well enough to know who likes to sleep late!!

How in the world did this girl get to be 20 years old and not have had a Well Woman check up??? Both Michelle and the OB/GYN missed the boat by NOT giving Anna a private {as in NO JOSHUA!}and thorough explaination of what she has to look forward to as a pregnant woman. Michelle is fully aware that Anna's Mom is several states away and that Anna has such respect for her that she calls her "Mrs Duggar"! She should have taken this poor girl aside and given her honest break down of what's going to happen every single month for the next 9 months. Of course, Anna's Mom should have picked up the phone and had a heart to heart with her daughter. Shame on the both of them! And as for Josh; once they hear the heart beat a few times and especially when her appointments get to be every single week, they will lose their appeal and Anna will find herself sitting in the waiting room just like the rest of the women. He'll be busy selling used cars to cute teenage girls!!!!

He's going to be in for A HUGE eye opener when they sit him down for those birthing classes that every hospital makes you go through and he sees the no-holds-barred video of a woman giving birth. Oh wait a minute, that will no doubt put lust in his heart for the woman with her legs in the air so watching it will be forbidden. Do you suppose Jim Bob will have a DVD for Josh on christian childbirth???

And God have mercy on him if he tries to convince Anna not to have any medication etc...my first husband tried that with me and I had him removed from the room because he was upsetting me to the point where my blood presure was going up. Then I had my epidural in peace! This will be an interesting 6 months!

J-nonymous said...

A benefit of the large family is that each episode can focus on just a small group. We can see a few episodes of Josh and Anna or the older girls. We can see Jim Bob and Michelle go to San Francisco or on a date. We can see the whole family, as well. In other words, Josh and Anna don't need their own show. There is plenty of room in the show for all of them, without having to resort to manufactured conflict or invasions of privacy.

Joanna said...

I'd like to see one show focus on the 4 older girls, one on John, Joseph, and Josiah, one on the 6 younger boys (or two if you think they needed that), and one on Joy-Anna and the three younger ones (or rather Johanna and Jennifer since Jordyn is still an infant and has several spotlights already). Or maybe a better break down; (John-David and Jana, maybe Jill), (Jessa and Jinger and maybe Jill, I think Jessa and Jinger should get their own episode)(Maybe Jill and Joy-Anna together), (Joseph, Josiah, Jedidiah, and Jeremiah), and finally (the little ones, unless you think one isn't enough). Josh and Anna have had like 7 to themselves, including the wedding special.

Rebecca said...

I should precede this with the admission that I rarely watch 18 Kids. Don't really like any of these family reality shows except for occasional rainy-day mindless tv watching. While we don't agree on everything, I think the Duggars seem like very genuine people.

However, please don't push for the newlyweds getting their own show. Whether it would be entertaining or not shouldn't be the big question. They are newlyweds, and about to be new parents! Those are two very big adjustments in a very short time span, especially for a young couple. They do NOT need cameras shoved in their face constantly.

Also, give 'em a break on the physical silliness. Didn't you look the same when you first started showing physical affection? It'll die away once they get over the newness of it, and realize that they don't have to touch constantly. Let 'em have their fun. :)

Rebecca said...

Saw a couple things I wanted to respond to. :)
"This is what happens when you homeschool your children. They have no concept of reality."

I completely disagree with this. People seem to think homeschooling means you are never exposed to anyone. My husband and his brother were homeschooled until high school, and they probably had more social interaction than I did. I walked around elementary and middle school with my nose in a book, and had painfully few friends because of it. Hubby tells me that the other homeschool parents in the area would have biweekly get-togethers with 30+ kids to talk about their schooling, play, and hang out. They also had youth to hang out with at their church, community theater, organized sports, extended family, clubs, etc. All homeschooling did was give them extra time to do their own thing (bunches of field trips, learning about the specifics of stuff that interest them, that sort of thing). We probably won't homeschool our own kids, but only because it is an incredible amount of work, not because my hubby was somehow unprepared for the world.

Certainly, some parents can take it to an extreme that I don't personally consider healthy. But homeschooling itself can't be blamed for that, and I would venture that they are the minority.

"How in the world did this girl get to be 20 years old and not have had a Well Woman check up???"

The ACOG guidelines used to be that you should see a GYN as a preventative either when you turn 18 or within 3 years of having sex for the first time. Sometime in the past few years the recommendation was changed to 21. So it really isn't that crazy an idea. Most of the gals under 18 or so that come in for exams at my mother's practice are there because they have a specific problem, a yeast infection or STD type usually. I do hope she doesn't take Josh to her next appointment though, so she can speak for herself and ask her own questions.

imaamy said...

Where can I see the doctor appt episode, or a clip from it?

Joanna said...

imaamy said...
Where can I see the doctor appt episode, or a clip from it?
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That's the episode "Double Date". It'll be on Discovery Health Wedesday at 9:00pm and midnight.

CappuccinoLife said...

lol. Yes, can we clear this up--the Duggars are not representative of all homeschoolers, all conservative Christians, or all people who eschew birth control. I know 'cause I'm all three, and there are many others out there who don't look a thing like the Duggars. :/

Anonymous said...

OH, GOOD thanks for clearing that up, I thought all "home-schoolers" were like that. phew... JK

Reality is that, these people put themselves out there, so righteous and almighty, so i have to admit it is kind of fun to poke at them. I am sure they are all good and nice people, but please for petes sake, WHY, I ask WHY, so many children??? It is not necessary, I think it is just for the man to brag, how many times he, well u know.....

oh btw, big AMY fan here, she rocks, best episodes are when she is in it. i think she even pokes fun at them. Apparently, her father who is Jim Bob's brother does not practice this weirdness with the 100's of children, so where does JB get it from. How many Bro.s and sis did he have? did they ever mention it?

Anonymous said...

I would also like to add to the conversation about girls going to college. I know girls from conservative christian homes who attend college via college plus or other online/distance colleges. These are fully accredited colleges though there are unaccredited ones as well. I do believe Anna has a degree in education, someone correct me if I am wrong. My daughter will be attending college while finishing high school (homeschooling) and she plans on graduating with a BA at the age of 19.

imaamy said...

Thanks for the info on the rerun. I will set my DVR. I believe someone said before that Amy is an only child.

Willow #1 said...

Anonymous 4:58 p.m. - Amy's MOM is Jim Bob's sister. Amy's mom's name is Deann or Deanna Jordyn. She and Jim Bob are the only 2 children. I think Amy's dad's name is Terry Jordyn.

Peace and love and happy Memorial Day! Willow

Anonymous said...

I think it's great! I have a couple older children, 11 and 9 who like to watch TV and we have to be so careful what they watch. I'm fine with them watching the Duggars and hope it's helping to enforce what we've been teaching all along. You don't have to date to find the mate God has planned for you. I love their values and love that TV is letting them be expressed. Thank you TLC for shows like this. I just wish the commercials were more conservative during these shows.

Anonymous said...

I think that they are way too young to be having kids already they should live their lives as a couple first they just got married. I'm 22 and there is no way I would want kids at this age there is so much to experience. Anyways I think that this show is wierd they have so many rules for thier kids its insane! I could never live that kind of life!

Anonymous said...

Josh is such a know-it-all and Anna is the woman of his dreams: vapid, fawning, and worshipful. Not to mention the GREAT pre-marital hand-sex. It was downright disturbing when HE told HER she was pregnant!! Didn't she have any interest after she peed on the stick? Or, has she been duped into beleiving that only men can interpet 1 line vs. 2 lines?

SuzanneDeAZ said...

"Anonymous has left a new comment on the post "Duggars The Next Generation":

Josh is such a know-it-all and Anna is the woman of his dreams: vapid, fawning, and worshipful. Not to mention the GREAT pre-marital hand-sex. It was downright disturbing when HE told HER she was pregnant!! Didn't she have any interest after she peed on the stick? Or, has she been duped into beleiving that only men can interpet 1 line vs. 2 lines? "


Did you not listen to the show? It was not that she could read the lines or thought her husband should know the results first. It was cause she asked him to do so as she was too disappointed in the last few months that the results were negative. She did not want to be the first one to know the results, nothing more.

I just do not understand how many just read things the entire wrong way or make "majors" out of "miner" things.

Rebecca said...

While I'm not a fan of Josh, I honestly think people are overreacting to the whole 'he saw the preg test first' thing. I could totally be misreading the situation, but didn't she say she wanted him to check this one for her? Because she was unhappy about it taking several months to get pregnant, so she was nervous that it would be negative again?

flower girl said...

Regarding Anna letting Josh fill out her medical paper work, she ALLOWS him to wear the pants and he does....she ALLOWS him to be controlling. She may not know anything other than that being so sheltered.

I was shocked to hear that they were having a child .
I do not think they should have their own show.

Anonymous said...

Ok, watched Duggars last nite and cant believe the coming attractions for next week. They are going to a public school and discussing "Home schooling" wow, do you think they read this blog? or is it a huge coincidence?

Have to say while watching last nite's episode of Jim Bob's dad's funeral, it was very touching. I don't know if I watch the show now in a different light due to the recent discovery of this blog but, i think the Duggars are a SWELL bunch. Hey if they are all happy then more power to them.

On a different note, who the hell are those "Bates" and why are they doing all the housework? Is this the Duggar girls, form of a vacation? It is downright weird and I wish they would leave already.

Lastly, Who ever told Josh he could sing?

chocolatebee said...

I dont know if I would watch Josh and Anna if they had their own show. I feel that Anna is still very young and akward and trying to get adjusted to her life being broadcast for all the world to see.She seems very uncomfortable in front of the cameras and I cant say that I blame her.Here is a young woman who's lifestyle has not been very modern or mainstream, she had a long distance courtship with a young man whose ways she is still learning,she is naive about many things and now she is a wife and a mother-to-be,all while on a show.I think its a little creepy and weird how she always seems to look to Josh before she speaks or how she gazes at him like he is a king when he speaks(although I notice michelle,kelly bates,and Anna's own mother Mrs. Keller also does this). Maybe this is a way of showing the husband respect or something.

Yes I find Josh to be a bit self-assured sometimes and almost annoying but I think Anna should be allowed to step out of some of the traditional "wife" duties such as cooking and cleaning and learn some other skills so she can be more of a well adjusted woman. Right now she still seems like a little girl playing house.

Anonymous said...

Please dont make a show about Josh and Anna. It makes me sick just thinking about it. These kids need to go to school, read a book, do something to educate themselves. My 5 year old sounds more intelligent than these two people. Now their breeding and you want to make a tv show about it? Id rather watch a family of chimpmunks than these two playing grown up.

Lisa said...

Actually everyone, the new show for Josh and Anna is just webisodes. They are already airing on TLC. I think everyone needs to stop freaking out. They are done so we can keep updated on Anna's pregnancy.

Naseem said...

Oh goodness do we really need a Josh and Anna show? The show will probably revolve around her going to the OB/GYN and how she wanted to get knocked up the second she was married. Do we need that much information?

TLC needs to stop already.

Pippa said...

I don't think I could take a "Josh and Anna Show". Josh DOES come across as arrogant, self-centered, and self-righteous.

I do love the Duggars as a whole, but PLEASE SPARE US more of just Josh!

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Fay said...

I love you, no I love you, I love you, no I love you, awkward kiss, then another, SHOWS OVER, oh please.

Anonymous said...

Wait... did I read that right- no college until after marriage for the girls- is this a fact for this family???!!! If that is true I will be praying for these girls to go against that rule! There are extremely strict christian colleges. Education is one the most important things you can do!!! Are they afraid that these girls might learn that they do not need to subservent to their husbands and that their heart will not fall out if they have feelings for a man that they do not marry? But on the other hand it would make sense for no college until after marriage because then the children are responsible for the college costs... How could this family possibly help 18 children with costs, books, etc. sad situation.

Rebecca said...

Anon, I hope you didn't hear that right, because if they kept them from college until after marriage it would be a real shame. Haha, my own dad (who is a pastor) wanted me to wait to get married until after college, as is the belief with most people I know. You get to know yourself better in college, and you learn how to grow up and be on your own more.

I don't buy the idea that they can't go to college because the family can't help them pay for it. It is certainly possible to pay for college yourself, by working full time and living frugally. Can be tough though.

Anonymous said...

If the "No college until after marriage" clause is true. That is unforgivable and Anna, with a BA in Christian Ed., is in violation !

That aside, J&A will have a lot of growing up to do and it will be hard once the glow of infatuation dims and economic realities emerge.

Although Josh is both a used car salesman & a political consultant - curiously similar occupations - I fail to see how either of these jobs (given there inherent feast or famine cycles) will support them and their budding family with a steady stream of income.

If TLC doesn't come to the rescue - and I hope they don't - Josh may need to compete with others for a real job and, if he lands one, show up on time, and do it all without a wireless mike starpped to his behind.

Peas and Carrots ~ not another trainwreck said...

Ohhhhhh Spare me the agony of evening seeing commercials for the JOSH & ANNA show. I hope TLC doesn't do this show. I used to watch TLC a lot and don't anymore. I don't think I could take 30 minutes of a syrupy couple making cow eyes at each other and eveything that comes with it. COME ON ENOUGH IS ENOUGH.

I hope they find other things that are more intersting, shows the enlighten not the brain sucking crap they call 'reality tv'.

Catherine said...

lord have mercy, the very idea of j&a stemming off with their own show is blasphemy. josh is an arrogant little prick and he does his little song and dance for the camera exactly like his father does (and i'm sorry but i'd never trust someone named "jim bob" to begin with). all of the women of this family have their head in the clouds, michelle included, and it sickens me that now josh and anna are going to litter the world with their spawn.
that being said, i do have a hard time hating this family, even though i disagree with them on an entirely ecological the-world-is-overcrowded-as-it-is-you-selfish-people sort of way, they live by their beliefs as best they can and don't seem to be too corrupted by the "fame" that TLC has granted them.
i don't watch it very often (in fact my husband gets mad at me when i do watch it because he knows i just watch to piss myself off), but each time i do i get another reason to be irritated at them. bah.
NO SHOW FOR J&A PLEASE!

The Real Susie said...

I thought the J&A show is just a webisode on the TLC website. That is what, 2 minutes? I think that is o.k. I missed some, but I saw the new one where they are at the Bates' house. Anna looked cute and handled the camera a little better. How cool they were helping the Bates family after they came and helped them cut trees during the storm. That is one of the things I do like about the Duggars/Bates - families that love and take care of each other. I bet all those kids just have a blast when they are all together.

Get Real Jobs said...

If there is a show about Josh & Anna I will definitely not be watching. What can we learn from them that we haven't learned from all these other fake shows.
I also don't think Josh should be giving dating advice to anyone about not kissing during dating. Please, he only dated Anna what a few months before getting married? He wouldn't last much longer that's why they had a short engagement.

SuzanneDeAZ said...

I was able to find the link myself:

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/26184891/#31366875

FYI, Buddy from Cake Boss made that cake. I now understand why they had a cake. The color of the cake revealed the sex of the baby as no one but Buddy and the doctor knew the sex of the cake till they revealed it on the show. Also they may name this child Merideth being she is their biggest fan.

randi said...

Regarding Josh and Anna marrying so young and rather quickly, I would just like to mention that many couples find their mate in their teens and are either encouraged to go ahead and marry when they are of age, or they run off and elope the second it is legal. It is something to be thankful about, never having to go through the torturous dating process, having your mate by your side as you get your education and begin your career, encouraging each other to grow and develop as an adult. Many of these same couples love to tell their stories of teenage puppy love blossoming into a mature, loving, committing relationship...stories they first share with their own parents and friends, later with their children that are born out of their union, and later still with their grandchildren. I know the joy that such an early marriage can bring, because that was my experience. I met my husband at church in Sunday School, we officially dated for only one month before he proposed, and we eloped one year later at the age of nineteen, because we were so swept up in our love for each other. We now have two beautiful children, and we are more in love now than we were at the beginning, in part because we are more capable of mature love now, but also because we have each refined the other's characters and have nurtured our relationship. So when I watch Josh and Anna on TLC, I have a beautiful vision of what their future may hold and I pray for great blessings for them and their growing family.

Anonymous said...

I may have my episodes confused, but I believe there were many disturbing things about this episode (Dr. visit, etc.), but if I have my episodes correct, there was one thing that really stood out to me more than anything else, and this happened at the double date dinner with J&A and Amy and her bf. Several comments have been made regarding Josh being conceited, etc. In some ways I agree, and in some I don't. I'm glad he has convictions, but as someone who struggled to live a Christian life from a young age with little family support, what really rubbed me the wrong way was his interrogation of Amy's bf. That poor guy! When Josh talks about "you have to kind of get under people's skin a little bit, and so far he's passed every test," who is Josh to judge this? Even if Josh can be thought of as somewhat of an example to other guys (many people would disagree), I thought it was horribly inappropriate for him to act as some authority on character and to put Amy's boyfriend through these "tests." The problem I have with this is that it makes it even more difficult to live a Christian life when you feel like other Christians are the ones who feel like you aren't good enough, and rather than helping you in your walk, they look at you like you aren't holy enough. To even have to put him through these "tests" is beginning by assuming that he wasn't an appropriate person for his cousin to date, and I think that's awful. I can't imagine how uncomfortable the poor bf must have been. And I know, why worry about questions if you have nothing to hide about yourself, but I just don't think anyone deserves to be put on the spot like this, no matter how strong he or she is in faith! Anyone can come across looking one way and feeling another, and his prayer about the baby that was being "processed"... shoot, I wouldn't have known what to say either on the spot like that, but at least he prayed! I don't know. I know Josh probably had good intentions, but I just was really put off by the fact that a 21-year-old feels the need to have to approve of others and "get under their skin."

Anonymous said...

I think Anna did attend college,didn't she? Or was it an online college?
Can you imagine the outcry if one of the Duggar kids, or the person they marry, decided to become *gasp* a Democrat??? They be shunned from the clan faster than a speeding bullet !! Heaven forbid they be allowed to think or choose for themselves.
I hope Anna and any future spouses of the D's will be themselves and not let the Duggars change them.After all,you marry someone for who they are.
As for the Duggars,it's control,control,we must have complete control......
I would not care to watch an Anna and Josh show.They need private time and this is not the way to start out a marriage.I do wonder,if,in the future,one or both will regret selling out their privacy for money.Let's face it,they're newlyweds and could probably use it,but it comes at too high a personal price,IMO.

NewWester said...

Some posters have commented on how Josh is arrogant and Anna seems to be deferring to Josh a bit too much. Well we have two people who grew up rather sheltered compared to many people their age.
That will change once the baby comes. Josh having to be in the delivery room when Anna gives birth and trying to be bossy and arrogant, but instead maybe passing out will be priceless!!
They are both still in their "honeymoon period" Nothing says real life than being new parents and 3am feedings!!