Free Discussion, January, 2018

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Misty said...

Now there are postings stating Jill and Derick have bound baby Samuel so tightly that he cannot move his arms freely at all and there is a photo to prove it. Remember when Izzy was screaming all bound up on the bed. Now they are doing this to Samuel even after all of the negative comments. This along with their admitting they blanket train the children makes me frightened for the boys. What a difference between Jessa's happy sons and the sad look Izzy has in his eyes in many photos.

Andrea said...

Misty: Samuel is being swaddled. It's a pretty common baby soothing technique. The reason his legs are hanging out is because some believe restricting the legs / hip area is bad for babies. I don't think swaddling is abuse. Abuse is taking photos of screaming children and posting them to the internet. A further example, is Cathy Dillard smiling like a fool, holding a big spoon while her two adult sons stand holding t-shirts which read: "Wooden Spoon Survivor." Wow, the Dillard are so clever. Sadly Derick has demonstrated again and again a complete disregard for other living things. I'm thinking of the cat vs. sled incident, trash taking Jazz and the photos of Izzy screaming his face off while tightly bound. Yes Cathy, he survived the spoon and it turned him into a horrible human being. Well done.

Emma said...

Misty: There is more than one photograph of poor wee Samuel bound up like a mummy, and to add insult to injury family members are holding him, what is wrong with these people? It must be so uncomfortable for him, he is almost six months old, too old to be swaddled so tightly, I hope they don't leave him unattended wrapped like that, its a tragedy waiting to happen if he rolls over in his cot and can't roll back. On another Dillard note has anyone seen Cathy Dillards new photo on her facebook? It shows Derick and Dan holding up t-shirts that say wooden spoon survivors while Cathy holds a paddle and pulls a face, there is a whole lot of crazy in that family the apple didn't fall to far from the tree, those poor kids don't stand a cat in hells chance!

Mickey2942 said...

Not a fan of corporeal punishment at all. But a quick swat with a spoon is better than the "Pearl's Encyclopedia of Child Abuse". Which I cannot believe is still on sale.

I am waiting for the day when TLC cuts the cord on the Dugggar cult. Their entire way of living is not commendable, from the homeschooling to home birthing. Natural child birth can be done in a setting that does not require screaming ambulances for emergency C-sections.

None of the Duggar adult children has a job. That is hardly "reality".

Heather D said...

Babies need to have access to their hands to explore, touch & feel as part of their normal development. The next step in Samuel's "training up" will be the cruel blanket training where he discovers momma & dad are purveyors of pain with the switch if he dare do any exploring off the blanket. I understand they actually put a toy out of reach and when the child naturally goes for it, he is hit. I can't imagine torturing a little child like this. Also, anyone see that photo of Jill feeding Izzy tomato sauce right out of the can? What's up with that? Was he being punished and only given tomato sauce. There is always something easy, cheap and not so nasty to feed a child....microwave some mac & cheese, soup, oatmeal.....if you don't want to go out of your way cooking for the child. The Dillard family seems to thrive on negative publicity at the expense of their little boys. Is the family photo with the wooden spoons saying we hit our boys with spoons now?

Jellybeans said...

So I have a daughter 4 days older than Samuel, she is so curious and fun I could not imagine stunting her development by intentionally causing conflict with my baby (blanket training) and instilling fear. These people cause nothing but harm to their children starting from conception.

Lizzyb said...

I think there are plenty of photos on both Jill and Derick's Instagram pages which appear to contradict the swaddling comments. Samuel may have been swaddled when he was in the very early months but the latest photos show him moving about freely, wearing normal 6 month clothing and otherwise looking pretty normal and healthy to me. I don't care for Jill and Derick but have no reason to believe they are not good parents who want the best for their children like all of us do.

Frannie D. said...

Blanket training, no school, no friends outside the family has resulted in useless Duggar kidudtls who hang around stating how Godly but doing nothing to help the less fortunate. The girls wearing loads of make up to attract men but wearing long matronly clothing is a hypocritical thing they do. The train wreck will surely occur sooner or later.

nickle pickle said...

i want to see that picture were is it?

betsy said...

Lizzyb....on dillard's mother Cathy's twitter they show the advocating hitting kids with wooden paddles & spoons shirts and holding paddles. A Christmas photo showed Samuel's arms bound up which is dangerous if they put him down like that, he turns over and cannot turn back...he could smother and also fall off a bed. I do not think feeding a little child a cold can of tomato sauce straight out of the can is being a good mother either or blanket training or swatting with paddles when they get older. That's just my opinion on this Dillard mess and how they treat their "blessings".

Meme said...

Jellybeans, thank you for your post. It is heartbreaking to think about the brainwashing that has happened to Jim Bob and Michelle over the years, to the point where they've taken advice from evil people and harmed their own children. Just because a madman and his hypnotized wife said to do so.

Just look at Derick and Jill and you see history repeating itself. Scared little Jill doing as she's told. Failing, delusional Derick grasping at straws, trying to stay gainfully unemployed. Grandma Mary must be eating her words about "quite the couple," Derick and Jill. They are ALL so disgustingly indoctrinated. As my old boss used to say, "you can't reason with crazy."

Emma said...

Lizzyb:There are some recent photographs taken over christmas of Samuel with his top half tightly swaddled. Look at Dericks instagram and his SIL Deenas instagram. I am not saying they are trying to harm him but there is no need for this kind of swaddling for a six month old infant, and if they put him in his crib like that (remember a young Israel wrapped up tightly in a blanket and screaming as he lay in his travel crib) it could be very dangerous.

Gertrude said...

The Jill & Derick combination appears to be a dangerous one for children. Simple parent empathy seems to missing in both of them. I honestly wouldn't treat my dog the way they treat the boys and I fear this is only the beginning of "training up" as the Pearls say in their book. Joyfully beating your children when they are naughty ....imagine Derick's wild grin, his eyes glowing as he whips his son, all the while preaching God's word. Read the book if you doubt this.

Gina Marie A. said...

Jill has hit an all time low by posting a photo of a poop stain on the back of Samuel's pajamas. The Dillards are desperate for any sort of attention. Seems like all they can drum up now is negative attention but to them, it must be better then no attention.

colen said...

These are my Duggar 2018 predictions/resolutions:

Jana - moves to her own apartment with her best galpal; gets an assoc. degree in interior design; successfully pitches a design show to HGTV- it becomes the most successful show in HGTV history.

Grandma Duggar - stays with her daughter Deena, does not move into the log cabin on JimBob's property; continues her fab adventures with Amy; meets a nice gentleman friend at the local senior center.

Josiah - reads the Bible for himself and learns what Jesus had to say about certain subjects; decides to see how far he will go- the world it calls him.

Jill and Derrick - Derrick decides to put his college degree and wanderlust to good use-he and Jill move to Nepal where Derrick teaches math. Before leaving Ark, Jill burns all her Gothard-approved clothes in a cleansing ceremony.

Jinger and Jeremy - Pastor Jeremy and Jill join forces with Hillsong and become televangelists.

Happy 2018 everyone!

starlite girl said...

Here are my 2018 predictions for the Duggar clan:

Jana receives more household & childcare duties as Jimbob & Michelle do more traveling.

Jinger & Jeremy become televangelists as this is his reason for marrying any Duggar girl.

Derick & Jill have financial difficulties because Derick refuses to work. He is dismissed from his current helper position at their church do to sexual misconduct.

Anna becomes pregnant yet again.

None of the boys start courting though JImbob searches the world for wives for them.

Kendra become pregnant with her 2nd baby.

Duggar friend Caleb is involved in a scandal.

Ben & Jessa have another child and Ben still stays unemployed


Daner said...

Gina Marie A.

Why not show a poop stain.

Jim Bob showed Josie's and that made for lots of talk over the years.

Blah said...

At a loss for words...12/31/2017 4:50 PM Made a post in regards to Derick getting fired and complaining abt sexual harassment amongst other things. Anyone have any links to these posts?

Anonymous said...

It appears the post was removed from C3 Cross Church Fayetteville. It sounded very legitimate. I wish I’d done a screen shot of it.

Anonymous said...

I found it:
Poster:
Good Christians know that we are all God's creations and thereby all acceptable and loved (no matter what race, religion, gender or sexual orientation they are). Additionally, anyone with any education would know that a business does not generally pay people to spout hate and intolerance. Businesses - whether it be TLC, IBM, Apple, Google, Ford, GM, Toyota, Intel, Proctor and Gamble, Verizon, etc - can hire and fire who they want based on which employees will make them money. There is no expectation that a business give a sounding board to religious preaching or hatred or bullying. If Derick and the Duggars wants to do that - it is fine but how does a Christian church reconcile his hatred and bullying with Jesus's message to love thy neighbor? His tweets and preaching sound more in line with a right wing group such as the neo-nazis.

Derick (and tereby C# who he represents) is nauseating. As his current sponsor, you must surely be aware that he was pushed to resign from Walmart as he was totally unproductive - constantly complaining about women in the workplace (their business suits caused him to have sexual desires which he had difficulty controlling) and/or trying to convert other employees. He was then let go by SOS not only because he failed to learn Spanish (after a 6 month intensive course) but because he used the pulpit to bully and condemn others versus reaching out in kindness and accepting them as it. Both Walmart and SOS are very conservative entities but neither could tolerate him as he accomplished nothing, did not do the tasks assigned, and had a God complex where he thought God had delegated him to judge and condemn. The same goes, though, for the rest of your family who spout hate against Catholics (who you call pagans), and who proclaim that Jews and Muslims will go to hell as salvation is achieved by proclaiming belief and has nothing to do with your good works (so a child molester like Josh Duggar and the Las Vegas murderer who did proclaim his belief in Jesus will go to heaven). This is all offensive. I do not want my college age son and daughter to go anywhere near C3.
Response:
How could you possibly have any insider knowledge of Derick's time at Walmart?
Poster: I work there :) I am a tax CPA and he was below me since he never passed the CPA exam. He had a real problem having a woman above him - often refusing to do tasks ordered. When his reviews were not positive - he blamed it on the sexual distractions in the workplace (as women were allowed to wear pants suits and or dresses/skirts that came to the top of the knee).

Mickey2942 said...

https://www.thehollywoodgossip.com/2018/01/jim-bob-duggar-richer-than-ever-still-feuding-with-ben-seewald/

Nothing like fighting about money to keep a family together.

Grandma Wagner said...

Derick is an all around mess up. I feel he is a danger to his family with his God complex going strong. He's probably a sexual pervert as what man gets all turned on by average clothing and complains he's being sexually harassed. No wonder Jill hung out around his work each day. Now he's been posting about wild women and adultery too much yet posting the video of the kids dancing to a Spanish sexy love song. He's a married man with 2 babies....his mind should be on his family and creating a real career and permanent home. Shocking he never passed the CPA test after studying in college for 4 years. No wonder he wandered around the Orient and dragged his family to CA. Now he's doing nothing but making trouble in Arkasas for the entire Duggar family who depends on the TLC gravy train. What future does he really have?

Dusty said...

It is surprising that Derick could not just pray to God to keep him from impure thoughts, seeing women as sexual objects at Walmart. He was freshly married and finally having affection with his newly pregnant Jillymuffin so how could he have been so distracted? Jimbob surely made a great mistake giving his fav daughter to him just to up the tv ratings.

Come on... said...

Reminder folks, anyone can say/post anything, doesn't make it true. I would like real evidence. I don't care for Derrick but I am not going to buy some random anonymous poster claiming she worked with him, unless its validated she had. Sorry but his own mother wears pant suits and he went to a secular college. I highly doubt he would care if the woman wears a certain type of clothing. He would be use to it. He didn't grow up a Duggar, after all! I could see maybe Jill complaining about a woman he was working with wearing a skirt, but not him. That post is probably a hoax. Derrick was a 'modern' Christian when he worked there. He was brainwashed by Gothard. He wouldn't be obsessed with pant suits. It would be normal to him. He has probably tried to convince Jill all along to wear the clothes she is wearing now. But she let Jinger test the waters first and see if anything happened.

Heart in Florida said...

I enjoyed reading the post about Derick's attitude at WalMart, but I find it a stretch because if the 'pants' thing were true, does Derick think his mother, who wears pants is defrauding her male co-workers and clients? Also, Jill has been seen in pants more than once now. Why would he 'allow' her to wear them if he thought they were defrauding? Perhaps those women he viewed at work wore REAL, NICE, pants, that actually fit? Unlike his wife.

Come on... said...

Opps, I meant to write WASN'T brainwashed by Gothard in my above post.

Andrea said...

Heart in FL: While I agree, it seems like a stretch to believe Derick's one time boss would post to a website, doesn't it seem spot on, how he would react to poor reviews. I also think he didn't pass his CPA exams otherwise, Jim Bob would have forever introduced his son in law as Derick the Accountant. I think it's true, he did a poor job at Walmart and his was grasping at straws to explain his poor performance and claimed women were to blame. Seems 100% Derick to me.

Blah said...

Thanks for the post. I’m not too concerned with the pants issue since it wasn’t brought up until his poor performance review. If true, he was pathetically grasping at straws. But reading between the lines it shows that he’s a chauvinistic pig. To me it seems to fit what we’ve already seen of him. I’ll take it with a grain of salt but we’ve been down this path before... He’s already shown himself to be some sort of a creep, this, if true, affirms it.

Meme said...

We probably don't have all the info about Derick's time at Wal-Mart yet. What we DO have is a young man with a history of shooting off his mouth and exhibiting questionable behavior. He may very well have an attitude about women superiors if he's accepted the teachings of cult leader Bill Gothard. We shall see.

Nevertheless said...

Andrea, like getting his CPA would then mean JB refers to Derick as an accountant. He wouldn't care. Jim Bob introduced Jana as a concert pianist. The fact Derick has a bachelors degree probably made him golden. He definitely IS an accountant to them all. Derick would tell them no different if he failed his CPA. JB would probably never be told or it wouldn't matter to him.

Don't get me started said...

Okay. Just viewed the Duggar congratulatory videos for Jinger and Jeremy expecting a baby. A couple things I notice. Why can't the Duggars just pick up the phone and tell them? Why the orchestrated, canned videos. Every. Single. Time. Ugh.

Another thing. Why don't the expecting couple ever say when the due date is? They must think we're stupid and don't realize they're stringing us along. And then there's always the gender reveal dramatics and games. Ugh.

One other observation, and I'm not sure if Jessa's just looking for attention or if there's something to it but she was wearing a loose mustard dress. She wants to stir up the " is Jessa pregnant, too???? Jessa can't handle the other girls in the family getting attention.

Courting, engagements, showers, wedding registries and wedding planning, wedding, honeymoon, Move into Duggar rental property. Pregnancy announcement, gender reveal, baby registry, baby shower, home birth, name games. Repeat. Seriously, it's just a revolving door of life with this family.

How many more seasons of this vicious cycle will TLC air??

Carla said...

It is very possible Derick was distracted by women at Walmart....LOL....because he has been bashing women on his Twitter account, the adultery/wanton women stuff. Probably if a woman speaks to him or smiles he takes it in a sexual way. He probably had no contact with women when he was in the Orient for 2 years so he was hot and horny to get in a relationship with a Duggar girl...a virgin and fame. What are the young dancing girls in short skirts at his church doing to him?

Anonymous Lea said...

Re:Don't get me started~ I noticed the same thing with Jessa's outfit. I honestly thought they were going to announce she was pregnant too. If she isn't, it is too bad she has to choose clothing that makes people suspicious if she is or not.

Diana said...

In regards to these postings concerning Derick's behavior while employed at Walmart and doing mission work for SOS.... I believe every bit of it! The things described sound so much like Derick! EVERYTHING stated rings true to me. I could see him thinking he was pleasing Jim Bob by treating women rudely and refusing to take orders from a lowly female. I believe there is a now predictable pattern of behavior by Derick. He's the type that thinks he's smarter than everyone and doesn't need to take orders from anyone. I predict that he will never be able to hold down a job anywhere either. Jim Bob sure picked a winner for his precious Jilly Muffin!

I was reading other places online about the Duggars. Their fans go on about what a great and godly family they are. They get all hyped up with each engagement, wedding and pregnancy. Then one of them will say - Why don't TLC show what the adult kids do all day? Why don't they show them at their jobs? Why don't they show Jana remodeling that old tattoo parlor that SHE bought last year? Why don't they show Michelle homeschooling the younger kids? Boy, those Duggar Huggars are CLUELESS! they really believe those bunch of liars have these wonderful, productive lives and TLC is holding out on them! Duggars are laughing all the way to the bank. They just don't get there are no jobs, no Michelle homeschooling, no exciting, fulfilling lives! Just total control by Jim Bob and Michelle! I,too,was fooled by them at one time, many here were, but you have to be really dimwitted to not catch on eventually as to what a bunch of frauds they are. SMH!Are there really that many imbeciles around to keep the TLC gravy train chugging along!? Apparently so!

Ellie On a Roll said...

Today 1/4/18 is a "Bringing Up Bates" marathon. I wonder if Michelle ever watches the Bate's show and if it even registers in her mind how polar opposite her relationship is with her children compared to Kelly and her children.

Never a dull moment said...

Re: Diana
Too bad someone on this blog doesn't live near the Duggars/ Tontitown or wherever town Jana's tattoo parlor makeover is located. They could scope out if any progress has been made and take some photos to post. Anybody out there live close and willing to check it out?

Icy Days said...

Did you know that that Joy Anna was pregnant? I don't think I could have been able to tell in the video if she hadn't been pulling her top tight and cradling her stomach. (sarcasm) She did this for a picture with Carlin Bates at Tori's wedding also. Does Michelle sit with all the girls once they are married and hold a class in how to insure that people know that you are expecting? Wear tight clothing, stick you stomach out, stand front and center in any photo or video.

Emma said...

Diana: Well stated, I'm witb you on this. These men think every smile from a woman is a come on, trying to lure them into sinning. I seem to remeber a while back reading that JB always requests a male to serve him in restaurants as women make him feel uncomfortable, I could see Derick being the same. Also lets not forget Jillymuffin driving miles every day to have lunch with Derick, I don't think she was lonely rather she didn't trust the heathen hussies he worked with, sorry Jill but I don't think anyone would touch him, and thats before surgery screwed up his face!

Jana said...

Does anyone else think the reason Jimbob hasn't married off more of the Duggar buys is that the family can't afford it? I'm not talking about the wedding. I'm talking about 5 courting-age men that live at home without real jobs, no education, no real incomes, no health insurance and most likely no savings account. Or maybe Jimbob is fearful that his sons won't pass the 50 page questionnaire that he thinks nothing about expecting of men courting his daughters.

Mickey2942 said...

I am surprised he found any brides for the ones who are married.

Josh and Anna, plus 5, and adding more.
Josiah and Kendra, plus one soon.

Seriously, even fundamentalist Christian young women are savvy enough to want a man who has a job. The fact that JB is also supporting his son in laws, aside from Jeremy Voulo, is also an issue.

John D. said...

I'm pretty sure why we haven't seen a Duggar -Bates courtship or wedding. Think of what a money grab that would be. Both sides would want coverage on their network ( UP or TLC) and the constant sharing of the couples time and status would cause nothing but tension. Plus both Gil and Jimbob seem to control their families.

Goodie said...

I’ve always wondered why all of the young Duggar children always wear watches. Heaven knows they don’t seem to be aware of time very much! Any ideas?

Lisa McGinnis said...

Why is joise bates and her friend hugging that guy she is getting to know? Saw them in a picture. Thought was not allowed?

Always said...

Ridiculous that Jessa can find a fairly "full dress" to wear & make people wonder if she's actually pregnant but when she really is pregnant, all she can find is those tight tops that show every part of her pregnant body, including her belly button.

Just Wondering said...

Somehow today, I happened upon a blog titled "cele/bitchy." The comments written in April 2010, were in regard to the filming of Josie in the NICU. Most of the bloggers felt she would have residual problems with her eyesight from the cameras & lights, that were allowed to film her in the NICU. Many women who had micro preemies that were in the NICU, couldn't believe the casual way Josie was handled & filmed. These woman had been through this with a child of their own. They also commented that Jim Bob & Michelle were allowed to handle her without gloves & the cuffs of their gowns only came part way down their arms, instead of all the way to their wrist, while they needed their gowns to come down all the way to their wrist & then the gloves came up & covered over the cuff of the gown at the wrist to prevent germs. Also, no jewelry even wedding rings or watches, due to germs, which the Duggars both had on & never more that 2 visitors at a time, another infraction on the part of the Duggars. One woman wrote, the father, Jim Bob & his phony smile just screams, "Phony Creep." I think it's only a matter of time before something scandalous comes out about this family." Well that woman was a few years ahead of herself but she hit the nail on the head with scandals & the Dugggars!

nickle pickle said...

I totally agree that Jim bod is fake and I just know he has had some kind of sex problem? I would not be schoked to find out that someone filed suit agsaint him for sexual hasserment. I also think michelle does not trust him that is why he cannot go anywhere without her.

Andrea said...

Just Wondering thanks for the suggested reading. For that that are interested here's article.

http://www.celebitchy.com/97684/mother_of_preemie_criticizes_the_duggars_for_their_nonchalance_about_josie/

It's definitely interesting to read a Duggar criticism so many years back. Also, so very true about the treatment of Josie.

detria said...

Oh No!! Again Derick is twittering about smooth talking women and adultery!! Is it a ploy to get attention again. I can't imagine any woman smooth talking to him. What's Jill thinking of these tweets? Why does Derick have cheating on his mind so much??? Maybe he should put looking for a job in his mind as he seems to have exhausted the begging for money idea.

Mickey2942 said...

Jill better start making sandwiches!

roddma said...

As far as Kelly being the opposite of Michelle with the kids, I wouldn't' buy it's always been that way. It is likely because she has to do more as only Carlin Katie and Josie are left. I recall either Erin or Michael potty trained and Alyssa had kitchen duties starting around 10-12. We don't know much about the early life of the kids since they weren't on TV much. Also, Gil and Kelly travel a lot leaving the brood at home with I suppose the three daughters left doing the household management and home schooling. Gill took off to Florida right after the fire incident saying Alyssa may need attention when Kelly was already there. I never thought of them as better and it's starting to show.

grandma Wagner said...

Derick is coming across as a sexual pervert, fantasizing about women who would do suggestive sexual & adulterous talk to him. What young man with a wife and little children keeps posting about smooth talking, adulterous women? What contact with such women can this unkempt looking wacko have or is he still obsessing about the women who distracted him with their wild & sexy clothing .....LOL....at Walmart causing his new insecure wife to eat lunch with him every day in the Walmart parking lot? Is Derick preparing the public for an upcoming sex scandal, trying to say "it was the fault of the smooth talking woman and the same devil who caused Josh to cheat"? Josh & Derick...you are the most unattractive of men and need to pay wanton women for attention (as Josh did). These Instagram posts must be driving Jill crazy, hence the attention grabbing henna tattoo, short skirt and nose piercing. Derick, just get a job, do not embarrass the Duggar family anymore by keeping your crazy mouth shut.

grandma Wagner said...

More weird stuff from Derick's Instagram.. He is posting a long article about Well Behaved Women. Why is he so obsessed with how women should behave, wild women, well behaved women?? What about the way men should behave? He seems totally controlling. Jill must be having a difficult time living with him. I wonder if she endures punishments if she accidently does not behave or do exactly as he demands?

Just Me said...

Re: Derick's complaint of the way women in the workplace dressed, i.e. skirts above the knees etc. Didn't he know that before he took the job? I think it's more likely that it was women being in charge of him that was the issue & it always will be.

SlushFund said...

IMO Women wearing tight shirts over their pregnant bellies and boobs are more provocative than skirts above the knees.

aketa said...

"For the commandment is a lamp and the teaching a light, and the reproofs of discipline are the way of life, to preserve you from the evil woman, from the smooth tongue of the adulteress.” (Proverbs 6:23-24)

Above is what Mr. Delusional posted on his Twitter account over the weekend. Who & what is he referring to or is that the game..to keep him front and center with curious posts regarding sex? He can't stop posting about the mysterious evil woman. Is her smooth tongue trying to sweet talk him into adultery? Never would it be the man's fault!!

Meme said...

People talk about Jillymuffin marrying a man that she barely knew and how unprepared she was for that marriage. What about Derrick? HE barely knew HER. How prepared was he to be someone's husband? Lessee. He was a freewheeling "missionary." He apparently was not ready to hold a job. At least Jill had experience caring for children. With 18 siblings she knew how to get along with others and compromise. DD seems to be having problems in that area.

Some on this blog are upset by speculation so I won't stir up any feelings. But I will say that there is EVIDENCE that Derrick may have been the one who wasn't ready for marriage. He seems very disturbed and downright weird about women.

Rachel Morris said...

There is an article with InTouch (I know, not reliable) where they are discussing Jill and her pregnancies. I have not followed as closely, but did not realize she had such long touch labors and two C-sections. That said, they speculated that she had a hysterectomy or that she lost the ability to have more children? I don't believe it, but whatever. How many C-sections are you "allowed" to have? At some point I would think the uterine wall would be too thin.

Never a dull moment said...

I'm starting to think that Dillweed must have some woman/women sending him messages and this is his way of deflecting them so that there aren't any messages from him floating around that could be made public. If he were to reply to private messages of this woman/ women, he would be scrutinized publicly for adultry type behavior. He's smart enough (apparently) to know better than to pick-up the bait. Probably after the Turd's ordeal, Derek learned not to trust women online.

detria said...

Dillweed should keep his mouth shut and stop making crazy posts on Twitter. If he has some woman contacting him, all he has to do is block her and stop talking about the adulteress woman. Most people in this day and age, get some weirdo after them and that is all you have to do.....block and shut up. Don't fuel the fire. Dill needs to act like a husband and father, get a real job and stop fooling around posting random bible verses on the internet as his main job in life. I doubt Jimboob is pleased with the way this drifter has turned out but that's what he gets for pushing a girl with the mentality and experience of a 12 year old into a marriage with a stranger. Now Jill is stuck for like, thanks to her daddy.

Aimee said...

Meme - I never thought of it that way but you may be completely right about Derick! He seemed fine in those first episodes as a missionary. But perhaps Jill thought that either she would love the missionary life OR that he would give it up when they married. She, at the very least, is very afraid when they are in CA and I don't see how she could be happy cooped up in that little house, afraid, with the babies all day long. Derick may be wishing many things - that they didn't have children so quickly, that Jill enjoyed the mission field more, that the Duggar fans would donate more money to his causes. Who knows? Regardless - poor Jill is stuck with him for wore or even worse.

aketa said...

Aimee.....I also feel Derick would be better off with a missionary/educated/hippy type woman who would compliment his desire to travel the world. Now he is too stuck with Jill and 2 little boys in Western Arkansas, a far cry from an exotic destination. I don't believe Jill thinks too much, just follows what her headship says she should do as she was "trained up" by Jimbob. Looks to me that Derick is slowly but surely headed for that train wreck since he has no means of supporting his family and this so called missionary school gig is not going to bring him enough. Whatever TLC paid them has to last a lifetime or to the day when Dilly gets a paying job. He's gotta be stressed out.

Diana said...

I've been reading the comments here about Derick. I agree he has gone off the rails, again. I just don't get how he has all this free time to continually stir the pot. He seems to enjoy getting everybody's panties in a wad. That's his way of getting the attention he so obviously craves. Here's what I would like to know... Does anyone here believe that Jill and Derick will stay married? I know they do these covenant marriages which are harder to get out of. I also realize they frown heavily on divorce. But how far will JB let this lose cannon go? Will JB and Michelle tell Jilly Muffin to "just suck it up"? What happens when they wind up homeless and Derick still refuses to get a JOB! Despite the Duggar beliefs, I just don't see the Dillard's as "til death do we part" material. Does anyone else see a divorce in their future?

Meme said...

Aimee and aorta, totally agree with you both. It feels like Derick is at a turning point in his life. Aketa, you made an interesting point that Derick may have been better off with a different type of girl. Maybe Jill could have been that girl, but she was programmed to do things differently. Whereas another young woman may have postponed having children, rolled up her sleeves and gone to work in CA, Jill went another way: immediate pregnancy. It was all she knew to do. I get her, even though I disagree with the lifestyle. But Derick? Who knows anything about him? Even Jim Bob's questionnaire never saw this coming. Does he not get along with coworkers or does he just flat out refuse to work? I do not know WHAT Jim Bob is gonna do with this guy.

nickle pickle said...

anyone see the picture of Samuel when he was born looks like it was having some breathing problems had oxygen on his little body? saw it on derrick instrgam account. Child looked sick. seems like he is doing ok now. As for derrick I think he got too much time on his hands so he just opens his mouth without thinking. I wonder what that leader of Cross Church is saying about him.

Mickey2942 said...

http://www.intouchweekly.com/posts/is-counting-on-canceled-145612

No, not cancelled! The show is back on, debut, February 26, 2018! Exciting new stories, pregnancy, births, courtships!

Oh, wait...that is hardly "exciting" or "new". Really? I can hardly wait to see the ratings plummet!

life of their own.. said...

Poor Anna! Did anybody watch that congrats video to J&J? That poor girl is so nervous and looks like she would rather be any other place in the world. She seems to squirm when Josh touches her. Who could blame her?? She looks like she is going to be sick when he starts rubbing her shoulders.

Emma said...

Life of their own: I noticed that too, she visibly recoiled when he touched he (wouldn't we all). That poor girl is just keeping it together, I wouldn't be surprised if she has a breakdown at some point, you can only keep up the charade for so long, even if your a fundie!

Emma said...

Derick is really playing games and trying to get people all riled up. Todays bible verse with Derick was Proverbs 10:4 Idle hands make one poor, but dilligent hands bring riches. People have been on his case calling him out from the first time he begged for money and he continues to post verses he knows will get people to post. I don't think this is about God or faith or whatever he likes to call it, he is just trying to get attention and good or bad he doesn't care. Its like the game toddlers play, they throw the toy on the floor you pick it up and they throw it on the floor again, on and on it goes because they enjoy the game and are getting attention. I wish people wouldn't engage with him and he might (its a small might) get bored and stop with the inflammatory, juvenile, attention seeking posts. Oh and Dericks idle hands have brought him riches, he hasn't lifted one since he married a Duggar!

concerned said...

In the Congrats video, I thought Anna was holding Josh's hand,as you can't see her arm right/hand much, it is hidden behind her(Josh is standing directly behind her). But her arm/hand are in the same position when she obviously becomes uncomfortable by the appearing of his hands on her shoulders. She clearly wasn't holding his hand. She even tries to look to the side, over her shoulder when he first does it. Maybe she has thought about it and is wising up to his shenanigans? Has he been flirting with someone and she is tired of being his door mat? Or is she just sick to her stomach thinking of his cheating hands touching her?

Carrie said...

I am sorry to say I sense there will be a sad outcome for the Derick & Jill saga. He refuses to face the reality of having to make money & develop a career to support his family. He has exhausted the begging/donation scams. He will not be making enough money at the Cross Church or any missionary jobs and he's probably aggravating the elders of the church with his wacko Instagram postings. I feel that after this year at the church, he will be at a loss. His postings about adulterous women and random bible verses that go against what he's doing in life (to stir the pot and get attention) are turning off any fans he might have had. Jimbob and Michelle are probably at a loss as to what to do with Jill and the 2 children since they were all for the covenant marriage. Next year has to be a real turning point in Derick's life. He cannot drag his family to non paying missionary posts since the donations have dried up and TLC will film his "adventures". I bet he dreams of being free of Jill and the boys so he can wander exotic places of the world like he did before, free of responsibilities and the dreaded 9 to 5 job.

Andrea said...

Emma and life of their own, just rewatched and video and can't for the life of me see what you see. I will said, Anna was holding something behind her back awkwardly, I initially thought it was Josh's hand, but that couldn't be as he was rubbing her shoulders. I can't imagine she find him that repulsive, she did just have her fifth child with him. I will say, I think he's gross, but Anna has been so indoctrinated and brainwashed to accept him as her leader she just blindly stands beside him. I truly believe Josh would be the one to end their marriage and as time goes on it seems less and less likely he would leave.

Mickey2942 said...

Ugh. I may be unhappy with some things in my life, but that poor gal...I would not trade places with her at all.

concerned said...

Anna looks antsy/nervous for sure. It looks like she may have been poked by Josh from behind when it was her turn but she looks toward his hand that was on her back, on the opposite side as well. Maybe they are having problems now, and wasn't expected or wanted to be touched? She may not have been repulsed by him when he first got out of rehab because she missed him so much being gone. But living with him all this time since, has things surfaced that is making her think differently? He sure has a wild side if he hired a prostitute. Who knows what could be going on. I do hope its not true though. I hope she was only nervous for filming purposes. She seems like such a sweetheart and I truly hope he has changed!!

aketa said...

From a sweet family with loads of kids to the Duggar family of today is a big leap. Who would have thought there would be sex scandals, donation beggars and jobless husbands? It's a shame the way it's all turned out for the Duggar children. This is only the beginning since there are many more kids to be forced into young marriages yet unable to support all children they are expected to create from wedding night on.

Carrie said...

At this point, Anna may mentally be in a hostage/kidnap situation, brainwashed and forced to have sex and get pregnant without thinking about it all. Just go along with what is expected and suffer in silence because she sees no way out.

grandma Wagner said...

Anna is a fool. What decent woman would have sex with a man who had 2 sexual experiences with a pole dancer who he paid so much money to....wasn't $1,000. each time plus be hooked up on a dating site. Hoping Anna isn't still doing thrift shopping to save him money. She couldn't wait to get herself pregnant with a 5th kid and even flew up to spend a night at his rehab place. Hope she had him get STD testing. Desperation must keep her on a search for new and exciting sandwiches to serve in order to keep Josh from straying.

detria said...

There probably isn't a way out for Anna. How would she care for 5 children on her own as she has never lived as an independent woman. It would take a rare new man, even a Fundy man, to marry her and take on 5 kids. The only way out for Anna is to write a tell all Duggar book, invest the proceeds in a house for herself and live frugally until she can get a job. How about a good new TLC reality show, Anna On Her Own. I'd watch that!

Mickey2942 said...

Derrick is cray cray. His weird postings are going to make him toxic to any employer, he has already alienated himself from any woman wanting to hire him, he is major creep factor, and as an HR professional, his tirade against Jazz Jennings makes him a definite problem. He is not worth the hassle it would be to fire him.

He is most likely to end up blowing his "job" at the church he is at, I thought it was like an internship, that he pays for...

He would be lucky to get a job over the road trucking...at least Jill would get a break.

Andrea said...

I'm really not up on how twitter works, but is it possible Derick makes money every time he tweets / retweets / etc. I get the Duggars / Dillards / Seewalds make money off their websites as eyes = money, but thought twitter was just used to send eyes to their website, but perhaps I'm wrong. I'm starting to think Derick just tweets stuff to drive traffic to his twitter feed to earn a pay check. Just a thought.

Derick tweeting "Idle hands make one poor" is actually pure comedy at this point!

Something's wrong in the tin house said...

I still think something is wrong with Samuel. The Duggar family seem so distant towards him compared to the other nieces and nephews. I think I've only seem the grandparents hold him in one or two photos and I don't recall any of the other Duggars interacting with the baby. Just strange. Am I the only one seeing this?

aketa said...

If there was something wrong with Samuel, wouldn't good Christian people actually spend extra time with him? How can they shun a child that might not be 100% perfect? And what about Jill, wouldn't she need love and support from the family?? I recall Jimboob and Michelle ran off to Hawaii when Jill was recovering from the difficult birth. Good mommas stay around to help and support, so there is an indication of how selfish the parent Duggars are, only thinking of themselves and their endless vacation schedule. So yes, I do see this situation with lack of attention to Samuel. Time will tell. Anyway, seems like Derick's mom is happy with the baby but let's hope she doesn't wack the kids with the wooden spoon she's so proud of.

Lizzyb said...

Andrea- Derick does not make money off of Twitter but he can certainly use his tweets to promote his agenda, whatever that may be.

schooner said...

Not a fan of any of the Duggars or their spouses but I noticed that Ben got rid of his scraggly facial hair. It looks so much better! Makes him look less awkward.

observation said...

Ooh detria, I think that show would be fantastic! I would watch too. Maybe she could be truly happy once again.

I wish Jana would start to court. Maybe TLC could introduce some fundie guys to her this season and we, the audience, could vote for who we would like Jana to get to know. I mean if it she decides she didn't like him much, the whole process would start over. The ratings would be through the roof. At least Jana would get out of the house and have some male interaction. Who knows, maybe she would even discover 'the one'. They could do the same for John David. It would interesting to see him interact with an eligible female. Oh and the younger siblings could make extra money again by babysitting, I mean chaperoning, these almost 30 year olds!

Willow said...

We have seen photos of Derick's family with Samuel. I just hate the swaddling of his arms, unless there is a good reason. If there is, I wish they would just say so.

LilBit0318 said...

Re: Getting paid for tweets...

I know that, on Facebook and Instagram, you'll see sponsored posts from various public figures, usually advertising some product or another. Said public figures get paid by the company they're advertising for. But I've never seen or heard of such a thing on Twitter, and from what I've seen here about his social media feeds, it doesn't seem that Derick has any advertising deals with any companies, so I doubt he's getting paid to tweet. I think he's just that insane and off his rocker.

Carrie said...

I believe the swaddling of the baby Samuel is simply part of the Pearl book of training up a child thing. Suppress children from exploring, having an independent thought.....sort of like early blanket training. I think Jimbob & Michelle are backing away from the Dillards and their cildren because of Derick's ousting from TLC due to his unpredictable stupid mouth. I doubt Jimbob is happy with Jill's short skirt, nose piercing & pants. Michelle still wears the "appropriate clothing" with the black stockings (as if those legs would turn on a man!!), long skirts and the horrid clunky black shoes that she even wears to weddings so obviously this is what Jimbob wants as she follows his every demand!!
The idea of Jana's find a husband themed show would be a hit and surely Jimbob would approve of anything that brings money into the family. Can you imagine being 30 years old and monitored by a 10 year old child?? What life!!!

Mickey2942 said...

She is probably pregnant again, a baby solves everything. And busy making Josh sandwiches, in addition to caring for 5 kids. That poor gal.

Pam said...

I think Anna would do well if she did a book deal. I also think if she left Josh and TLC gave her, her own shiw, she would be set. I'd watch it.

Aunt Bea said...

Tomorrow is Jana and John David's birthday, Jan 12. They both will be 28 years old. The travesty of this is sad. Yes, I agree that it would be demeaning for a 28 year old woman to be 'accountable' to a 10 year old when 'courting'. The same goes for JD, a 28 year old MAN, being accountable to Johanna when out with a grown woman.
Michelle does not care one bit for the well being of her daughters. Kelly Bates does look out for her girls, IMO. She snatches up those unsuspecting courting guys for her daughter and she's the one who instigates the engagements. She doesn't want them to get away and they haven't. At lease I think she WANTS to marry off her older daughters, unlike Michelle who doesn't give a darn about any of them, really. As long as she doesn't have to do housework, cooking or child rearing, she's happy.

That's not a vacation said...

It appears the Duggars have landed in Australia. There's a photo of Mechelle at the airport. She's wearing the same old get-up as always. Blue shirt with long black skirt and nurse Rachette shoes. Can't she buy something different? Seriously, I'm sick of her wardrobe. I can't imagine getting dressed each day being Mechelle. Josie, the feral child is standing right next to her Mom and she's wearing the typical thrift store ensemble... worn out country bumpkin dress with pink / brown cow girl boots and a long winter jacket. One of the lost girls is standing next to Josie with a semi smile . (Jenny or Johanna)

Another photo shows poor Duggar family slave Jana checking 21 suitcases (nope, not a typo) at the counter by herself. Where the hell are the men in this family??? Seriously, Jana needs to get out of that household.

Meme said...

While we would ALL love to see Anna leave Josh and see Jana and John David utilizing a dating service, it ain't gonna happen, folks. These people are completely indoctrinated in a CULT. A very sick man twisted the words of the Bible into a perverted belief system. Anna will never be happy about leaving Josh (or him leaving her) unless she becomes deprogrammed. Yeh, that ain't gonna happen, either. This lifestyle is her childhood, her parents, her marriage, her religion, her EVERYTHING. Jana and John David will participate with a modern dating service when cows fly. They don't do it that way. Marriages and births are important business. Choosing a partner is frivolous and unnecessary. Everything is done to serve the cause of Gothard, lest we forget.

Mickey2942 said...

Jana? Courting? She is getting past old maid now in Arkansas. She is probably the daughter who will be a caretaker her whole life, care for kids, and some time, elderly parents...that is her role, I doubt she will go rogue and break free.

Always said...

I have a darling little granddaughter & if I ever saw her swaddled in the manner that Samuel has been shown I would turn my own child (parent of said baby) into the authorities!

Carrie said...

Jimbob should be checking in the suitcases at the airport as he is the man of the family. Jana, a 28 year old woman, lives the life of a child/servant, hopelessly brainwashed always waiting for her next order from her headship, Jimbob. She will be 40 years old before the feral child is 18 and married off but at that point there will be 20 grandchildren needing auntie Jana to help out and then caring for her aging parents. There is no hope for her since she does not have a mind of her own. John David seems to have no interest in any women. He is set up with a job and and a house but never even date or perhaps, talked to a woman. There has to be some fundy girl out there who could be sent by her daddy to marry him and have a honeymoon baby. Seems like Jana & John David have no sexual desires due to the Gothard/Nike upbringing.

Here we go again said...

Apparently there's a young lady traveling with the Duggers over in Australia named Lauren Swanson. She seems to be sitting and standing next to Josiah. Maybe a new courtship on the Duggar horizon.

Jenny said...

Always...It is important for children to explore and learn by touch so if the hands are bound up, it could lead to learning disabilities. Poor Sam has cruel blanket training in his near future. When one of my children was hurting, it would hurt me so how can a parent hit a baby to cause pain as a learning experience? I read Michelle pulled new born baby's hair if it was not nursing the way she wanted. The entire clan has sure some abusive ways about them. I must say I feel Jessa and Ben are normal loving parents to their children and it shows on the happy faces of their sons, not bruised up and sad eyed like Izzy.

detria said...

I can see Jana meeting a strong outdoor type Aussie man and running away from the family, free and laughing with him........wow, that's an impossible dream....but a nice one.

Mickey2942 said...

https://www.google.com/amp/www.intouchweekly.com/posts/duggars-australia-winter-clothes-151278.amp

The Duggars arrived in Australia, With full winter gear!

Didn't they consult with anyone to check the weather? No one wants to drag around coats on a trip, for that many kids...I don't know, when we go on trips, kids get dropped off, with Mom, luggage, and if we are going somewhere warm, leave the coats, wear a sweatshirt if it is cool..

I read more about fundie families, apparently it is normal for a "SAHD", Stay At Home Daughter, and the daughter is actually much closer to the Father...creep.

saywhat said...

Maybe the Duggars aren't down with a bachelorette/bachelor courting(dating) theme but I truly think what they need on the show is more single friends for the single Duggars. For example, Jana's friends are shown talking to John David for a few minutes. Then vice versa for John's friends or Ben's or whoevers friends, talking to Jana. It would drum up interest for the show and who knows, maybe lead to them wanting to get know the other more. Even if the Duggars paid some nice actors to fulfill said parts, you never know, they may end up truly liking them. It only takes attention and a smile from a really nice one.

Emma said...

Here we go again: and just in time to be announced before the new season starts, such a surprise (did that sound a little bit cynical lol?)

freida said...

I notice in the arrival Australia pic that the little Duggar girl is wearing a winter jacket but flip flops on her feet. Jimbob is so cheap making his kids wear foot damaging 2nd hand flip flops during their entire childhood. What does he have against a nice pair of sneakers. Is it that old man Gothard has a foot fetish and one of his rules of his religion is demand the little girls wear foot exposing flip flops?

Carrie said...

Jana is so busy keeping the family organized that she most likely doesn't have a minute to reflect on her sorry life. She seems to be heading toward being a 60 year old virgin serving her 85 year old parents. Only Jana can help herself like only Anna can help herself but they are too brainwashed to see they are being taken advantage of.

Sunny skies said...

The funny thing is that it is summertime in Australia. They have opposite seasons than the USA so no need for winter jackets.

Just Ridicolus said...

Having seen pictures of the Duggars arriving n Australia, in full winter gear, tells me, that neither Jim Bob or Michelle have an ounce of intelligence between them. Having said that, I have to wonder who sets these trips up for them? Whoever is their PR person, or whoever guides them through the activities of daily living doesn't have any more intelligence than they do either. Also the kidauldts should at this age & stage of their lives know that different countries have different climates. One of the best parts of traveling is having the family checking out things like this about where they will be visiting. All of those kids have computers or Iphones & yet they don't even know what the weather will be, and yet this show stays on the air.

nickle pickle said...

i think they are goofy for daring all those people on that trip what are they all going to do over there. if they take anyone should be the little girls so they can get to know them. Jordan looks lost in the picture?

Mickey2942 said...

Looks like that homeschooling needs a curriculum on geography, climate...not just bible study.

Mickey2942 said...

How can she with her troop of "chaperones"? Someone has to watch the kids...

It is a good dream though, that she meets a nice guy, and decides to live her own life. Rather than the shadow of her Mother's life, raising her brothers and sisters. It seems to me that Michelle used pregnancy and nursing to pretty much bail on everything and let her daughters run the house.

Kilsyth Sue said...

I'm a reader of this blog from Melbourne, Australia. Was vaguely aware that the Duggars were coming to this country early in the year and then had a giggle when I saw the pix on-line of them arriving here on Friday in heavy winter clothing. We are having often-scorching summer days, temps in the mid and high 30s Celsius (and worse) last week and predicted for the coming one. (Over 100 degs in your language.)

It was a bit surreal to discover yesterday that the Duggars were to attend a 4-hr event that afternoon at a Baptist Church about a 5 min drive from my home. I thought of being there to see them arrive or leave but it was unexpectedly so cold and rainy here I couldn't face it. Melbourne is notorious for extreme weather changes within a short time .... I think those winter clothes will be very useful after all!

It was so chilly here last night I thought of turning the heating on! Today is sunny but definitely cool.

The Duggars are also apparently attending an ATI Family Conference over the next few days in a town about 10 mins from here. This area of Melbourne, the rural outer east, is most attractive and has much to interest visitors, I hope the Duggars get a chance to get out and appreciate it, whatever the weather!

Just Asking said...

It's heartbreaking to see Jordyn in her winter jacket with those flip flops on her feet. What kind of mother stands by & sees her daughter dressed like that? Michelle is right beside her in the picture. By the way has anyone seen "Hannie," in any episodes or in any pictures lately?

thea said...

Mickey...the thing is Jana can't "decide" since it is her headship Jimbob's place to decide her fate, even if she was 45 years old. Daddy finds the man. Look a the wonderful job he did finding that successful Dillard. Also. since when do people travel internationally with a cheap pair of flip flops on their feet. It is dangerous for a child, or anyone, when going on escalators and other forms transportation. The mother should make certain a child wear a shoes that offer some protection in crowds.

Marites H. said...

If it were any other family than the Duggars, I'm sure someone in a group that large would take the time to research their destination enough to know about weather patterns.
Wishful thinking, but it would be nice if a tall, dark & handsome Aussie airport employee helped Jana with all that baggage and struck up a conversation with her. That would get Daddy's attention really quick and he'd be across the terminal in a flash to "rescue" his housekeeper, umm I mean eldest daughter.

Blah said...

Don’t forget having to go through check in and having to remove shoes... being barefoot at an airport? That’s just asking for an infection.

Mickey2942 said...

Just another sign of the dysfunction. It is the small things that highlight that running a family with this many kids means the kids really don't get attention and care. They get the bare minimum of bare necessities, shoes, flip flops, no socks...it is really almost the same neglect.

I wonder about that poor kid, Tyler, that the Duggars "adopted". I am pretty sure he is a foster kid, they are getting cash for him. This really was a bad placement for that poor kid. They have to take family offers first..

Big Daddy Duggar is never gonna find someone for his nanny/housekeeper Jana. She never gets a chance, I don't buy that she doesn't want out...she is supposed to be happy, so she is...

Elspeth said...

The Duggars have guardianship of Tyler. He is neither adopted or a foster child. It was a family placement situation.

laura said...

If its not in the gothard school pamphlets then they must not need to know about weather anywhere else in the world.
They probably go sledding in sandals too.
Sure glad Him Bob's not my 'daddy' pretty sad excuse for a father there.

Mindy U. said...

I totally agree about Ben and Jessa. I didn’t think Jessa would have had that maternal instinct, but she’s a natural!

Andrea said...

I agree with Jenny: " I must say I feel Jessa and Ben are normal loving parents to their children and it shows on the happy faces of their sons"

That said, wouldn't that all come to an end if Jessa was pregnant again and again and again. Let's be honest, being raised in the Duggar Household must have been dreadful, surely Jessa wouldn't follow in the same footsteps as her parents. I could see having 8 children spread out over 20 years, (let's say a baby every 2.5 years) any more children, any closer in age just couldn't create a happy or healthy family dynamic. Coincidentally, Ben comes from a family of seven so I hope for Jessa's mental and physical health that's the number they aim for. Ben's family of origin seems pretty happy which perhaps has aided Jessa in creating a loving home for her children.

roddma said...

As for Michelle learning from the Bateses, we don't know how much of Kelly Jo 's 'closeness' is a put on. I guess we would all act a bit different knowing cameras are on us.We also have to remember Alyssa did all the cooking form like 9 or 10, they borrowed money from Lawson, and Micheala maybe -can't recall- did all the potty training.

It's also the fad's job to ensure the kids dress correctly for the weather but I guess that's 'wimmen's work'.

And can we stop calling Josie feral? IMO that donates lack of attention since she gets plenty though her clothes may be a mess.

Real World said...

While I'm certainly not a Duggar supporter -- Maybe they had winter coats with them in Australia is because when they left Arkansas, it was cold. I've traveled from Chicago to Mexico and had to have a coat for my commute in Chicago. You just have to stuff the coat away when you reach the warm climate. At least they have proper winter coats - unlike proper shoes.

Get real said...

Re: Josie being called a feral child...

From my observations, there seems to be unlimited reasons people refer to her as feral.

1. Mechelle and Jimboob reproducing like rabbits, regardless if they can afford them, feed, cloth or care for them properly, and they threw care to the wind if the baby would be born healthy or alive.
2. Josie is notorious for being filthy, hair dirty and snarled. Her clothing choices are almost always frumpy rags that are inappropriate for the occasion. She reeks of neglect.
3. Countless times on the tv show the vision of Josie running, walking and crawling all over the kitchen countertops with filthy feet and overall unhygienic appearance. Yuke.
4. We've witnessed countless times Josie sticking her fingers in wedding cupcakes displayed for guests, eating with her hands like a neglected child showing zero manners. I would never want to eat at a salad bar or buffet if the Duggars have eaten or are eating at the establishment.
5. If you look at almost every video and photo that Josie is in, she is being held back, her hands and arms being controlled as if she can't control her actions and body. She's 8 and that's not normal.

Anyone want to add to list, have at it....

nadia said...

Ben & Jessa need a larger house if she has another baby since Grandma's place, which they bought, is only 2 bedroom. I guess TLC & the magazine articles can pay for it since Ben is allergic to work, just like Derick.

Just Unbeliveable said...

I saw a video of the Duggars attending a session at the church that is apparently sponsoring their trip. Of course, the kids were again singing "Washed in the Blood." I was thinking, Australia is such a beautiful country & it wouldn't surprise me a bit if the Duggars only see the inside of the church they're visiting & whatever hotel they are staying in. So much for a learning experience for the young Duggars.

Patty said...

It really is beyond belief that any true Christian Church would sponsor the Duggar Family. They do not represent christianity. They are a cult. True christians do not brainwash their children into cookie cutter lives, and keep them from experiencing an independent life. True Christians do not believe that their only purpose in life is to give birth to as many children as possible. The family was interesting to watch when all the children were little. But their true colors have come out, now that many of the children are adults who have remained "children".

aketa said...

Isn't there another song, other then "Washed in the Blood" that the Duggar children can sing?I doubt the Duggar children will absorb much of Australia as I recall them visiting England's Stonehenge with such great history but Michelle let the children run around like wildly, saying they were getting out their energy!! like you let dogs out in the yard to run around. Didn't Jimboob make a jerk of himself on that trip taunting the guards at the palace? So, no, doubt the will absorb any of the great country of Australia and Jana will be too busy caring for the children and all of the luggage to even notice where she is.

Lela said...

It makes me sick to see the kids being taught to sing about being washed in blood. Maybe the younger ones could sing a bright song such as "Jesus Loves Me". Is the enormous plane fare paid for by TLC? Many thousands of dollars was spent to transport all those little children, wearing hand me downs & flip flops, to Australia to sing the Blood of Jesus. They probably have no idea where they are on the globe if they even know about globes, geography & maps. I wonder if it's against Gothard's rules to study different countries and cultures. The only thing I ever saw Michelle teaching the younger kids, besides bible verses, was bankruptcy, which must have gone right over their heads. Weird but true.

zebracrossing said...

I always thought that the Duggars had so many children in order to populate the world and influence it for Christ. I know they have followers...but they all seem to be Christians already. Where are the people who have been convinced that Jesus is the Saviour from watching the Duggars on television? Anyone? And how can they go out into the world when they have no education or jobs...no permission to encounter the 'world'. It is a shame that Jim Bob and Michelle have stifled these children to the point of being robotic and programmed.
I can imagine the possibilities...with proper education and encouragement...we might have seen a few teachers, doctors, nurses, musicians... if they were allowed to work at a retail store or as a janitor in a school or as a waiter in a restaurant...there would have been SOME influence in the 'world'. Staying in their tight, sequestered quarters only keeps that 'Good News' FROM the very people they were hoping to influence. Total shame.

Just Furious said...

I saw a video of Jim Bob, in an expensive looking suit, preaching in the church in Australia, that is apparently sponsoring them & I know that's why they are there. However, when Jim Bob is preaching about how many Australians don't attend church, I believe it's an insult to the country he's a visitor in. I believe he thinks he's the "Second Coming of Christ." I have a wonderful family, friends & neighbors but I have no idea just how many attend church. What I do know is, that they are good people who are loving, caring,& concerned about others & help wherever it's needed, much like many who write to this blog & are concerned & care about the Duggar kids & their health, lack of education, lack of social kills, no education except about bankruptcy. I agree with those that have written about the Duggars being a cult & I' sorry that they are insulting the residents of any other country. Yes they have acted appallingly on other trips & I hope the people they meet there in Australia don't think all Americans believe as they do & drag their kids around practically half dressed & looking like they just left the thrift shop, when the can travel the word telling people what they are doing wrong with their lives.

Unbelivable said...

Did anyone else see the video where Jim Bob announced that Jana had a birthday & was 28 & with a huge grin bordering on a laugh, said she was still "single." Well just why is she the still single one Jim Bob? Also Jana at the counter in the airport with every piece of luggage checking in. I thought the asked if you packed your own bag? Obviously the boys didn't, since they were asked how they were able to pack for a trip like this one & Josiah answered "get a Jana." Just disgusting. Shows you just what the boys think of their sister, who is keeping the house running & them feed when their parents are either right there in the house, or visiting Hawaii

Just Me said...

Re: Comments about the kids singing, "Washed In The Blood." I have always said why don't they sing something like; "Jesus Loves ME," especially when they are in these other countries? They go to missions sponsored in foreign countries by SOS & sing something like that & I guess it's good that they don't speak English, otherwise it's a frightening hymn, especially to children. Doesn't exactly give you a warm & comfortable feeling about your religion.

Ruby said...

So all the pictures from the Duggar's Australia trip are of children in gift shops and other tourist attractions. These people don't seem to have any desire to discover anything on their own or explore the culture and natural wonders of the country they are visiting. Their world is so simple and small. What a waste of resources to haul that whole crew all the way around the globe so they can take a picture of their kid in a gift shop wearing a koala t shirt and posing with a orange plastic kangaroo.

Just Asking said...

Any guesses how long before we hear of an engagement between Josiah & Lauren Swanson who is accompanying the Duggars in Australia? I'll say one thing she sure has that Michelle/Anna, "gaze at the most wonderful man in the world," down pat already. Guess she's a big fan of the kool aid too!

Mickey2942 said...

The Duggars lived in a three bedroom shack, before the TLC money truck came in...14 in 3 bedrooms.

Mickey2942 said...

The Duggars seem to be focusing on the expecting couples, Three at this time, grandchildren, and not so much on unmarried adults, Jana, John David, Josiah, Jeremiah, Jedidah.

sandi said...

Of course the girls arrived in Australia in flip flops...it's the approved Gothard/ATI apparel.Michelle is the only one who gets to protect her feet, in ugly shoes at that.
It doesn't seem safe to travel in though....it would be all too easy to get a broken foot or toe from dropped luggage,or someone stepping on their feet

grandma Wagner said...

Jana is incapable of standing up to Jimbob because she was very easy to brainwash and lives in fear of going to hell if she doesn't continue to obey him. Isn't it weird for her to stand in front of a mirror styling her long hair & putting on makeup every day......and for what? Because some old perverted man name Gothard says women need long hair, flip flops and makeup. She will be a fool for Jimbob & Michelle for the rest of her life because they created her with a servant mentality for their own benefit. She's lost.

Mindy U. said...

Exactly! Shouldn’t they be out among all those “sinners” trying to recruit them?

Meme said...

I'm confused about a couple of things. Did Jana go to Australia? I'm assuming that she did because Jim Bob made fun of her there, right? But then I read that she was at home? Dunno. Also, I can't locate the video where Jim Bob makes fun of her. I did see one video but the audio was disabled. Did they pull it?

Meme said...

I'm confused about a couple of things. Did Jana go to Australia? I'm assuming that she did because Jim Bob made fun of her there, right? But then I read that she was at home? Dunno. Also, I can't locate the video where Jim Bob makes fun of her. I did see one video but the audio was disabled. Did they pull it?

Mickey2942 said...

That maybe why Michelle is always holding her, or within arms reach. I have not heard her speak much..

I am surprised she does not wear glasses, so many preemie kids do have issues with their vision.

That being said, she is quite remarkable for a preemie born so small and early. No fine or gross motor issues that are apparent. As for cognitive, she is doing well for not having the structure of attending school. She would benefit from school.

I am sure we don't see any major behavioral issues, you have identified several...Michelle keeps her quite close..

lisa Mcginess said...

make it clear Jana is with the family in the land down under. Because Joy and Austin gave John David a birthday party at their house and in the top of the picture it said party for John. Guess he must have been out of place because he had no girl there with him. And as for Joy and Austin house wonder how they got that house fixed up so fast. Guess they had a lot of free help.

Marites H. said...

There is a photo of Jana checking ALL 21 suitcases at the desk in the airport. When asked the question "did you pack these yourself?" unfortunately the answer would probably be "yes, I did pack them all."

I can understand having a responsible adult double check that all the necessary clothes are packed away, but these kids are old enough to count up how many days they'll be away from home so how many outfits they need. How hard is it to pack a suitcase?

Emma said...

Josiah really needs to loose the bum fluff off his face, it makes him look like a shorter Josh, not a good look on anyone!

Ruby said...

Emma, Josiah looks a lot like Josh and has the same smirk that I wish I could wipe off his face. He gives me the creeps.

Nickle pickle said...

Anyone see Cathy Dillard post on instagram she Derrick and Dan giving away scholarship money in their father name 10,000 dollars were they get that money from

Not a Duggar Fan Anymore said...

I know it's not the same as tracking viewership numbers for the TV show, but there don't seem to be many posts here on the pregnancy announcement sections. Not as much attention as Jim Bob was hoping for, selling off his kids to spouses who are easy to manipulate (except maybe Jinger's "babe" Jeremy.

Emma said...

Yep a mini smuggar Duggar lol!

Not watching said...

Strange isn't it that, Cathy, Derick & Dan, are giving scholarship money in exactly the same amount of money that Derick was begging for on his "gofundmepage."

Melissia said...

Ruby I thought exactly the same thing when I saw the picture of Josiah, add to it Lauren's perfect "gaze" & it's another Josh & Anna for sure.

Disgusted with Duggars said...

There's a video stating that Australians are upset that some members of the Duggars family have been fined for running red lights. Also upset about them spreading their personal religious beliefs.

Unbelivable said...

It truly makes me sick to my stomach to hear Jim Bob humiliate Jana telling the crown assembled at the church "she's praying for a husband." Meanwhile Michelle is giving kudos to John David for becoming a pilot. Jana doesn't have a minute for herself. If she's not snowed under with work around the Duggar house, she has the responsibility for minding her nieces & nephews. Where are their parents? None of them work but they have Jana as their childcare person & still people think there's a lot to learn or at least enjoy from the "Counting On Show."

Carmel said...

I don't think it makes a bit of difference if Jana is praying for a husband or not. She won't get one unless Daddy says so. They can talk about JD and the fact he is a pilot (sorta like career aspirations) but the only descriptor for Jana is that she's praying for a husband. I feel so sad for the poor girl. It would be nice for JD to stand up to his parents and then have the remaining "adult" kids living together in JD's house for a bit of freedom. Wishful thinking but it would drum up some interest to see these siblings working out how to live as adults without answering to Mama & Daddy for their choices.

life of their own.. said...

Did anybody catch the video of Joy giving a tour of her home? It is on her instagram. When she shows the one room, she says this room is full of our sh-t,.. stuff right now. She actually changes the word, right as she is saying it! But you can clearly hear she was saying it. Now, I wonder if the Duggars all talk like that on a daily basis. It sounded like something she says in everyday talk but had to catch herself. Are they really that conservative? And remember Jill liking something or retweeting something on twitter with the f word in it? I know very religious people and no way would they ever like anything with that cuss word in it. Hmmm..maybe they are all becoming rebels! Next show on TLC, Duggars Gone Wild!

lisa said...

How humiliating of Jimbob to say Jana is praying for a husband, like she's some loser with nothing but a prayer. Let the 28 year old woman out of the house, get her own place and live her life. She doesn't have to get married but she sure shouldn't be doing the Duggar slave work for the rest of her life. I guess it's not that easy for her as she probably has no money of her own, no car, nothing.... so she stays.

nickle pickle said...

yes I saw that if you are putting your home online so everyone can see it please clean up your house. The kitchen looks nice. guess she is becoming like her sister showing her dirty old house? I am sure the duggar big house looks like that two.

Beyond Belief said...

The point about Jana "praying for a husband," isn't that she won't get one, it's more that her father would embarrass her in front of a group of people in a country they are visiting. Do these people who had a laugh at Jana's expense know that she is nothing but an unpaid servant in the Duggar house? How cruel can a father be to make fun of the one person who is allowing her mother to live a life of leisure? I agree that Jana also has the responsibility for childcare for her nieces & nephews. Whenever she's seen she's holding a child & they are not all Michelle & Jim Bob's. Why is she responsible for these children? I agree where are their parents? They don't appear to be working & certainly Jessa isn't cleaning her house, & her husband is on he couch following his Duggar brother-in-laws. Jana is probably going to be responsible for whatever limited homeschooling they get too.

Just Saying said...

OK, we all know that there will very soon be the obligatory announcement of Josiah courting, followed by a quick engagement & an even quicker wedding. Any guesses what will follow the wedding? This is beyond ridiculous. Every season it's the same thing, courting, engagement, wedding, pregnancy announcement. Just as I don't believe everyone of those kids wanted to play the violin, I don't believe everyone wants to follow the leader in getting to the alter. I know both in my own family, as well as extended family, friends & neighbors, the kids all chose different routes for their lives. Some married young, some are still singe & will probably remain that way. Some went on to college some didn't. These are nothing but "cookie cutter kids." How is long is this old, very old, line going to make for interesting watching for viewers? I'd rather watch the clock change or for those of us who remember the old days, watch the test pattern.

Melinda said...

The Duggars are all about their PR. Jim Bob starts the trip off getting a laugh at Jana's expense, then Michelle compliments John David on becoming a pilot. Yes he has a private pilots license & they claim a number of their boys do. John David wanted to become a commercial pilot & Michelle said "No" because it would mean he would need to be away from his family on Sundays, a day of prayer. What would have happened if the Paramedics, DR's & Nurses didn't work on Sunday, because it was a day of Prayer & Josie was having a seizure on Sunday & needed transport to the hospital & care when she arrived there. Oh I shouldn't forget the clerks or secretaries who take your information upon arrival, actually all hospital employees,they are there on Sundays too. The same applies to Jessa needing to be transported to the hospital for a blood transfusion after childbirth, or Jill needing her C-sections, suppose it was a Sunday? We don't know if Michelle has given birth in the hospital on a Sunday either. Actually, when you think of it Pastor, Preachers, Ministers, all clergy receive a paycheck for the services they perform for their church for Sunday services. Don't the Duggars realize that? It just makes them think & feel that they are above everyone else because they hold so fast to their beliefs. I've got news for them they play fast & loose with their beliefs when it's convenient for them. Lets face it Jim Bob & Michelle faced cameras & lied through their teeth about Josh & his molesting his sisters & their family friend. They lied about any counseling they provided for their daughters or Josh. They will always carry that air of superiority, that they are above everyone else but trying to show everyone how to live the Godly life they live. Jim Bob auctioned off his daughters for the ratings for a TV show & yet they are concerned about someone working on the day of Prayer. There was nothing wrong with Josh closing his car dealership or Sundays but it wasn't really necessary for them to constantly show the sign he had, that it was closed because Sunday is a day of Prayer, especially now that we know his background. Lies all lies but they travel the world as paragons of Virtue..people to be admired.

Melinda said...

The Duggars are all about their PR. Jim Bob starts the trip off getting a laugh at Jana's expense, then Michelle compliments John David on becoming a pilot. Yes he has a private pilots license & they claim a number of their boys do. John David wanted to become a commercial pilot & Michelle said "No" because it would mean he would need to be away from his family on Sundays, a day of prayer. What would have happened if the Paramedics, DR's & Nurses didn't work on Sunday, because it was a day of Prayer & Josie was having a seizure on Sunday & needed transport to the hospital & care when she arrived there. Oh I shouldn't forget the clerks or secretaries who take your information upon arrival, actually all hospital employees,they are there on Sundays too. The same applies to Jessa needing to be transported to the hospital for a blood transfusion after childbirth, or Jill needing her C-sections, suppose it was a Sunday? We don't know if Michelle has given birth in the hospital on a Sunday either. Actually, when you think of it Pastor, Preachers, Ministers, all clergy receive a paycheck for the services they perform for their church for Sunday services. Don't the Duggars realize that? It just makes them think & feel that they are above everyone else because they hold so fast to their beliefs. I've got news for them they play fast & loose with their beliefs when it's convenient for them. Lets face it Jim Bob & Michelle faced cameras & lied through their teeth about Josh & his molesting his sisters & their family friend. They lied about any counseling they provided for their daughters or Josh. They will always carry that air of superiority, that they are above everyone else but trying to show everyone how to live the Godly life they live. Jim Bob auctioned off his daughters for the ratings for a TV show & yet they are concerned about someone working on the day of Prayer. There was nothing wrong with Josh closing his car dealership or Sundays but it wasn't really necessary for them to constantly show the sign he had, that it was closed because Sunday is a day of Prayer, especially now that we know his background. Lies all lies but they travel the world as paragons of Virtue..people to be admired.

Sharla said...

I have a couple of reminders. We do not discuss families other than Duggars and Bateses. Other large families in the news are not an issue here. I am not publishing comments suggesting Joy Anna has had the baby or any other such nonsense about her due date. Anything based off her registry date is simply nasty gossip or tabloid garbage.

schooner said...

Diana, Josie's shoes are not too big, her feet are very large. Pictures of her barefooted show very large feet. So big, in fact, that you do a double take. Michelle's shod feet look the same as Josie's.

And, yes, I think Jessa must be preggo. Radio silence.

Ruby said...

Looks like Josiah has a girlfriend? He looks so much like Josh. I wonder if we'll be treated to a display of hand-sex by Josiah and his BFF. Ick

Heart in Florida said...

Wouldn't you think that it would be very immodest for an unmarried young woman to be traveling with the family of your opposite sex 'special friend'? I just can' imagine any conservative family allowing this to happen. Especially that they are traveling around the world to Australia with them. I also notice, nanny assistant, Lauren, is also in attendance. I'm sure she's there to take care of MICHELLE'S children for her to back up Jana. Isn't it supposed to be that MICHELLE is the head nanny in charge and perhaps JANA is backing up her mother with those younger children? I don't see Michelle in the child care mix here, do I?
Just like at home, she's an absentee mother and child care provider.

Done with Duggars said...

I agree that Josiah definitely has a girlfriend. You'd have to be deaf, dumb & blind, not to see the set-up with her traveling with the Duggars & the way she has the "gaze" down. Josiah now knows he's the most wonderful man in the world. I also think he looks just like Josh, with his facial hair & it's enough to make a sane person sick. I don't remember any of the other future spouses traveling around the world with the Duggars, so it's definitely a wedding coming soon. Of course, Jim Bob must be salivating, with a wedding somewhere in between the birth of how many babies this yr.?

Wondering said...

I have thought that Jessa was pregnant ever since that picture off her in the very full dress was shown. When she wants everyone to know, she wear those tight shirts that show every inch of her pregnant belly but then we see her in a full almost flowing dress. Something wasn't right about that.

sandi said...

My dad always gives an extra tip to anyone working on Sundays,because he figures they must really need the money.I wonder if JB or any of the Duggars have ever thought to do that? Just a thought,Duggars,it's not all about you

Diana said...

Schooner - In regards to your comment that Josie's shoes aren't too big, that she has big feet. I don't know if Josie has big feet or if these sometimes crazy phone cameras that easily distort only make her feet appear bigger, but I'll take your word for it. Let me also say that over the years, I've seen Josie wearing shoes that were obviously too big for her. How do I know from a photo that her shoes were too big? Because when the tip of the shoe/boot is curled up and the bend in the shoe created from walking is in the wrong place, it becomes quite obvious that the shoes are too big. I've seen that repeatedly on Josie. As for Michelle having big feet as well? How would anyone know? She wears those black Herman Munster clod hoppers all the time!

Ruby I agree that Josiah looks like Josh. I'll tell you what's freaky, his newest victim...er, girlfriend, looks very much like Anna! It's Josh and Anna 2.0!

Agree with most here that the courtships, weddings and babies are wearing thin...lather, rinse, repeat. Who cares if Jimbobs dream of 100 grand duggars comes true or not. I'll tell you what I do believe though. Once this crapshow is cancelled and the big buck$ run out, it's over. Going to be groups of Duggars overrun with babies, babies and more babies living in poverty. It'll be like the olden Duggar days, 14 people subsisting in a 3 bedroom box, no TLC in sight to bail them out. Hopefully when the money does run out, the kidults will wise up and seek greener pastures. Oh, and have babies at hospitals or certified birthing centers with proper pre-natal care!

Sharla said...

I have to laugh. I got a complaint about not allowing free speech. Free speech has no application to blogs. If the gentle reader would look over the blog plenty of explanation of the allowable topics has been provided.

sandi said...

I think JB said he wanted 200 grandkids,not 100.That means on average,10.5 kids per Duggar offspring.Can they do it? I have my doubts.Some of them don't appear to want marriage right away,like John David.And Jana might never leave the nest.
100 might be doable,though.5.25 kids per offspring,on average.Jmo

laura said...

Diana the future you are describing is the reality for many, many fundie families.
They live in Ignorance yet with judgement against all not just like them.
Keep them isolated, uneducated, control the money and teach fire and brimstone of one strays off path..
Classic. Normal. Cult.
No biggie. They seem to like it that way.

lisa Mcginess said...

I heard on the bates family instgram account that guy who helped them fix up their house with the duggars think his name was clark wilson had died? I think he was also on the duggar show helping Jim bod build the house.

Andrea said...

Anyone else catch Jim Bob and Michelle's happy birthday video to Joe? "Happy Birthday Joseph. We are soooooo sad that we're not with you but we really we're glad that we're here in New Zealand right now with a bunch of friends for a family conference here." They then go on to talk about the great weather in New Zealand.


Honestly, speechless. I can't decide if they do these things just to annoyed viewers or if they really are that dumb. The entire video is about Jim Bob and Michelle and not really about celebrating Joseph's birthday at all. If I was Joseph I'd get on social media and the following:

"Thanks for the birthday message Mom and Dad. Thanks so much for taking the cute younger sibling to New Zealand and Australia while I get to stay home and do nothing. I'm loving the winter weather and thinking all the opportunities I've missed and the abuse I have endured because I was born into this family. Thanks again!"

aketa said...

Michelle & Jimbob are the most neglectful parents. They even left delicate Josie and she had the seizure and thankfully the camera team was there to jump in and help overwhelmed Jana. They neglect to allow their children a real education which has stunted their social growth for the rest of their lives.
Wonder why Joseph was not included in the trip and stuck in boring Arkansas. Maybe he's glad to be out from under Jimbob's control for a few weeks but of course he has to tow the line or one of the sibling spies would report on him. What a life!!!

Elspeth said...

Joseph didn't go on the Australia trip because none of the married offspring did. He stayed home with his pregnant wife.

Charlotte said...

Anyone else catch Jim Bob and Michelle's happy birthday video to Joe? "Happy Birthday Joseph. We are soooooo sad that we're not with you but we really we're glad that we're here in New Zealand right now with a bunch of friends for a family conference here." They then go on to talk about the great weather in New Zealand."

To me, that sounds like a PR free advert for the conference. Why would they need to add in that extra info as though Baby Daddy Joe was totally uninformed about the reason for his parents' absence. Why do these people even post these personal family messages for all the world to see. It's a good thing Jana is there to remind her parents about Joe's birthday. We've seen in the past that Jim Bob is pretty clueless about figuring out his kids' ages (going to a place with different rates for each age category).

Mickey2942 said...

I wonder how much longer this show can go on, and who watches it? Fundies don't, because they can't afford to feed their own kids, forget cable tv. The novelty factor has long worn off on this cult, especially when it is so fake. Three son in laws, studying, or practicing preaching, I don't think they make much money. Josh is probably selling used cars now.

Courting, wedding, pregnancy, birth, repeat. Endless Groundhog Day at the Duggars.

laura said...

Jill posted on IG about derick losing his dad.
She said he lost his amazing dad. Since that is the only other adjective besides super that she knows, I found it to be very unnecessary and impersonal.
Also she says "we miss you 'dad'"
Why is dad in quotation marks and uncapitalized? And how does she miss him? She's never met him.
Sorry if I'm overreacting but the sentence sturcture, word usage and the way she told the story was a little weird and vague concerning what he was told.
Jinger looks cute in the conference pics. Abysmal speculation in a couple articles about her not being comfortable with her own pregnant body.
Hopefully she never sees that.
I will end with perfunctory him bob is still as crass and self absorbed as ever.
Building up a history with making fun of his kids on their birthdays.

Susie said...

Last episode of the Bates show we see Bobby unloading his car and moving his belongings into a travel trailer. He takes in his teddy bear trying to hide it under a pillow. He just completed college of some sort and is ready to propose to Tori. These kidults are SO immature and stunted by their religious cult upbringing.

sandi said...

RIP Clark Wilson.He was so funny! I laughed when he was afraid of the interior decorator from NY.It didn't seem he had ever been around a strong woman before,emotionally speaking

grandma Wagner said...

Jinger has more class and is behaving like a lady compared to Jill & Jessa who think nothing of wearing the tightest, most immodest t=shirts to show off their swollen breasts and "tummies" when pregnant...oops, sorry "expecting".

asian noodle said...

I am waiting to see how much the duggars and bates help the family of Clark Wilson after all he helped them build the houses. I know he helped the duggars and showed Jim bod how to build that house and the bates also. We know the bates did not know how to add on to their house plus he got them tons of freebies. I hope the give his family money because they sound poor. and the duggars and bates are not poor making plenty of money from tv shows.

Carrie said...

Will the Duggars say they will pray for the Clark Wilson family instead of helping out financially??

Ruby said...

Noticing a pattern in all the pix of Jill and Derick's baby--he looks very weak and small. There's one picture of him on his stomach on the floor. He is raising his head and looking into the camera. Trouble is, that's what 6 week old babies do, not 6 months. If that is a recent photo, then SamSam is delayed in development. Also in every photo his little hands look very weak. His fingers are spread out and not showing any effort to use his hand to propel himself forward, or reach out for anything. If this is indeed the case, I feel sorry for the little guy. And really, the Dillards are not obligated to share all their family's private medical info, but I sure hope his health has not been affected by his parent's stupid, ignorant, reckless and arrogant disregard for prenatal care, unassisted home birth and knowingly living in a zika infested area.

nana Gia said...

It is being learned that the Zika virus can cause all sorts of medical issues in a child from delayed development, deafness.....it is not always the obvious head deformity. What stupid people the Dillards are to go to a Zika infested area while pregnant. Now, if it is true Samuel suffers a disability, this is what Mr. Delusional and his childlike wife have done to an innocent baby for the remainder of his life. And for what.......Derick's selfish missionary/vacation trip that showed they did nothing but bake banana bread and preach to nearly empty rooms with a few people who were Catholic?

So Sad said...

If what Ruby has noticed about Sam, even if only a little bit is accurate, then I hope & pray (probably a lost cause) that his parent have him evaluated & get him the proper help needed. It's sad & frightening, to think that any parent (one with a College Degree) would jeopardize the life of a baby, by putting him in harms way, when they knew the problem existed. By they way, just what did they accomplish there in CA? They didn't even learn Spanish!

Just Saying said...

Re:Laura's comments about Jill's postings re:Derick's Dad. How can she miss someone she has never met? It's also a slap in the face to Derick's stepdad. I don't know his name, because they never mention or acknowledge him. He may not be Derick's biological dad but apparently he stood by Cathy while she was going through cancer treatment, even when forced to be filmed at Jill & Derick's wedding. I think it's obvious he doesn't want to be a member of the Duggar "extended family" but just when did they decide to start featuring Derick's dad, who has passed away, making him front center, Jill writing about how she misses him? It was fine to have his uniform display at the wedding, as a tribute but I think that was enough. If they really wanted to pay tribute to the man, they could have given one of their son's his name, even if only as a middle name.

Another Nurse said...

Re: Sandi's comment about her dad giving an extra tip to anyone working on Sunday, because he thought they probably needed the money. I think it wonderful that your dad gave an extra tip to the Sunday employees. However, as a nurse who worked my fair share of Sundays, I just wanted to mention, that many employers inform you when they hire you, that you understand some Sunday work will be required. Yes, there are some employees who want to work weekends, because they have children & their spouse will be available to care for their children & it's convenient for them, they don't need to pay a babysitter. But many of us are just required to work some Sundays, just as we must work our fair share of Holidays.

Meme said...

nana Gia: You're so right. The Dillards did nothing in CA. Baking banana bread was all Jill knew to do for those people. Every photo of Derick showed him sitting or leaning - just chillin' with a few locals. Jill was petrified the whole time she was there. But hey, at least Dillard got to indulge his lazy bones. (All 200+ bones). REAL missionaries get involved. They work, teach, dig for water, build structures, feed and inoculate children, etc. They get to know the people and learn their needs. I'll never understand why this couple went to CA. BTW, I saw Mike, the REAL missionary on HOMEKEEPERS the other day. He talked about his work in CA and discussed the progress he & his team had made. I couldn't help but wonder what he thought about the lazy Dillards.

Mickey2942 said...

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.thehollywoodgossip.com/2018/01/jill-duggar-and-derick-dillard-hiding-samuel-dillards-genetic-co/amp/

No speculation from me, but it would be quite tragic if this little guy has any serious medical issues.

And, I agree with the article, that Derelict would be the first to speak up that little Sam needs a continual "GoFundMe" page, if he did have health problems.

Radio silence. Who knows?!

Carrie said...

Guess the Dillards think it is God's will if Samuel is damaged by Zika. God controls everything in their eyes. God spoke to Dillard and told him to go to CA among the Zika virus. Then God spoke again and told him to do ministry in NW Arkansas!! Wasn't that a coincidence being that Jimbob's big house was at that location? What are Jill & Derick really doing in NW Arkansas as far as missionary work? Derick seems to be associating with young college type kids, even attended a dance party plus he seems to watch a lot of football. Derick also posts all those bible verses, so many about "smooth talking women" and the adultery brought on by such wicked women that the public is wondering if he's been cheating on Jillymuffin. I guess he's free from looking for a job until God tells him to do so.

Diana said...

Want to add my thoughts here concerning the Dillard's, Sammy and the Zika virus. Due to comments made by Jill and Derick, they left central America and went back to Arkansas to conceive. IVE NEVER UNDERSTOOD THEIR REASONING! We've been told that it's recommended to delay pregnancy for 2 years after Zika exposure. Potential fathers should delay fatherhood for 6 months after exposure, plus, undergo testing to see if they do have the virus. So what did the oh so wise Dillard-dips do? They left central America and went to Arkansas to conceive! Do they think that made Sammy protected from being affected by Zika, because he was conceived in Arkansas?! Sounds like something they'd believe! Either they're beyond stupid, or is it that they think they're exempt from Zika because God....? I guess that must be it, God. I mean, they are the "special" chosen ones aren't they?! Sammy should be sitting up by now. Truth be told, it wouldn't shock me if Sammy winds up having disabilities due to Zika,or perhaps Jilly Muffin attempting a prolonged home birth. It still bugs me why that baby wore those mittens so much. Many have said something seems off with Sammy, I agree. Of course we already there's plenty off about Derick!

So I see Josiah is courting Lauren Swanson. She's very pretty actually. I just hope Josiah isn't being hustled into it they way Josh was. I've no doubt Jim Bob figured getting Josh married off would miraculously "cure" Josh of molesting and porn viewing. I don't get why those kidults don't just go live their lives THEIR way. Then again, I've never been brainwashed and threatened with being shunned. Jim Bob and Michelle are just evil.

Have one more thing to air out. Joy. I do feel bad for her with the speculation as to when she conceived. I personally don't believe she got pregnant until AFTER she got married. But you know what? Even if she was pregnant when she walked down the aisle, who cares! It doesn't matter really! I get how it shatters their image and the Duggar brand, but I think many people would just say.. GOOD FOR JOY! The only ones who should feel ashamed about what they've done is Jim Bob and Michelle. They've emotionally stunted 19 people as well as deprived them of an education, plus, they've kept them dependent by removing choices that most of us take for granted. EVIL!

Springtime said...

Just Saying said...
Re:Laura's comments about Jill's postings re:Derick's Dad. How can she miss someone she has never met? It's also a slap in the face to Derick's stepdad.

I think since they have such a patriarchal culture that they revere the father, but since they don't believe in divorce then there should never be a stepdad so perhaps that's why they don't mention him. It could also be the fact that the stepdad is wise and doesn't buy into their crap.

Just Saying said...

Re: Springtime's comment that it's such a patriarchal culture that they revere the father & don't believe in divorce, so there shouldn't be a stepdad, maybe that's why they don't mention him. In this case, it doesn't involve a divorce, there's a stepdad because the biological dad died. I understand that they don't believe in divorce but do they believe a woman should only marry once in her life, if her husband dies she isn't allowed to remarry? I don't understand that at all.

Just Me said...

Mickey 2942, your comment, I wonder how much longer this show can go on & who watches it? I have said those exact word more times than I can count or remember, since way before the Josh scandal. There doesn't seem to be an answer, or at least not one that I know of.

nickle pickle said...

guess Josiah Duggar is in a courtship with that Lauren girl. only words I would have to say is were to they find these dumb people? I just do not get it what father in his right mind would let their child get near one of these kids. She is nice looking she could find anyone but a duggar who has no future and no job. she does not look like a fundie to me.

Danielle Pate said...

Josiah’s second courtship- this time, no advice video from Josh.

Elspeth said...

Regarding Derick's step-father, Cathy's church is not ATI/Gothard. She hasn't subscribed to all of those beliefs so she doesn't follow the umbrella of protection nonsense. Her husband died so under all but the very strictest constructs, she was free to marry again.

sandi said...

What is the rule on fundie remarriage? I thought they were free to remarry, or even expected to,to another fundie,asap,so as not to be without a headship? Someone correct me if I'm wrong,thx

Me Again said...

Re:nickle pickle's comment about Josiah's girlfriend. I believe she is a member of a fundie group. Her family just recently moved to Arkansas, & her mom is expecting her 8th child around the same time as Joy.

Charlotte said...

Josiah's lady friend is only 18 years old, but she'll most likely be married & pregnant in time for their 1st Christmas. Her whole life already plotted out for her. Pretty sad. I hope they find a way to make it work.

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