Free Discussion, May, 2018

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126 comments:

Tori said...

Sandi: I was sure I had read somewhere that Chad Paine was setting up his own business. I saw on their blog he was working for a contractor and refinishing furniture which was the part I assumed was his own business as Erin is always posting pictures of the work he has done in their home.

Ellie On a Roll said...

Is there anyone from the Tontitown area who can validate any of the Jimbob Duggar RV park chatter? And what is this about the Swanson and Caldwell families living on the Duggar compound? If this is true, it's getting more cultish by the day.

Tracee said...

How long has Josiah been courting? Isn't it time to move it to the engagement phase.... Or is it already there? They always have to have one in the works so we have to hear all the fascinating details.

And when are Kendra and Jinger's babies due?

Anonymous said...

I thought I heard Tori's husband , Bobby, was offered Chad's old job

lisa Mcginess said...

you never know with these people? one thing for sure is Jim bod is on the look out for girls to start marrying off those younger boys. I doubt he is looking for Jana and John David since he needs those two the most. Seems those two do most of the work for Jim bod. Since we know he is not a worker that much just tells people what to do.

Ashley said...

Josiah and Lauren are engaged. Kendra is due 6/17 I think.

Anonymous said...

Ellie on a roll: The Caldwells have not moved to the Duggar compound, they have their own home. Laurens family upped sticks in Georgia to move to Arkansas to accommodate the courtship with Josiah. No driving to Georgia to chase after the girl for Josiah, unlike Josh who drove to Florida to impress the Kellars with his celebrity, these days the girls come to the Duggar boys. I wonder if the Swansons have moved into the pool house, could they afford the rent, it was too steep for Derick? And who leaves their home, business, family and friends behind to allow their teenage daughter to court a young man you hardly know, no one I know thats for sure.

sandi said...

Tori,thx,I thought I read he was flipping houses

Not a Mocker said...

Tracee
Josiah and Lauren are engaged (after a whopping 6 weeks courting). They've been engaged for just over a month now (end of March till now). I predict a June wedding

Wednesday said...

I just saw a post that Josiah and Lauren's wedding day is June 30.

Enough Already said...

Just realized that we must have complained enough about those awful Birthday, Anniversary, baby congrats videos by Jimboob and Mechelle. I don't recall seeing one in the past month or so.

Willow said...

Josiah is already engaged. I think he and Lauren started courting around January and got engaged in March-ish. I haven't seen anything about when the wedding will be. Rumors have it in May. Kendra is due June 17th and Jinger in mid-July. Bobby Smith did replace Chad at his job. He is accepting an assistant pastor job in Nashville, however, and they are moving there when Tori graduates this month.

sandi said...

It appears secular jobs are taken only when they have no other choice,at least by the Bateses

coleen said...

http://popculture.com/reality-tv/2018/04/21/counting-on-michelle-duggar-accused-abuse-reddit-viral-video/

Here's a link to the vid of MD disciplining one of the girls; she didn't know DD was livestreaming.

Ellie On a Roll said...

I saw the video of "The View" discussing Derek Dillard's recent posts about the men that recently adopted another child. Derek needs to pipe down as I think he may have stirred the "Boycott the Duggars" pot once again. Let's just pray to God that "The View" doesn't invite Derek on as a guest!!! They'll eat him alive but the ratings would be through the roof!

Just sayin said...

Just thought of something. You don't think Jimboob intentionally scheduled Josiah's wedding for June 30, two weeks before Jinger's due date hoping she would go into labor early? That way she could try a home-birth with Dr. Jill, no-medicine woman assisting at the compound. Let's hope Jeremy decides it too close to their due-date and says they're not going home for the wedding.

Missy said...

That was unkind of Josiah to have his wedding 2 weeks before his sister's due date. Hopefully Jeremy will use common sense and not drive Jinger all the way from Texas to Arkansas to view another kidult wedding, putting Jinger & the baby at risk. No woman wants to travel in the car for hours and hours while ready to give birth to her first baby, far away from her doctors.

lisa Mcginess said...

how could you see anything in that viedo can hardly see anything.

Always said...

Re:Anonymou's comment about who leaves their, home, business, family, friends behind, to allow their teenage daughter to court a young man you hardly know? I guess it would be someone who really doesn't have much of a home, business,or many friends & brings their immediate family members with them. Or to put it another way, someone who is desperate for the fame & fortune this marriage will bring to their family.

Just Saying said...

Re:Anonymous' comment about the Swanson's picking up & moving to AR. I think if my daughter was marrying Royalty, we would probably not up & move from our home, work, family & friends. We would probably just enjoy an occasional visit. They are just ridiculous & probably don't have all that much to leave behind.

Sunshine said...

Re: Missy's comment. You are assuming that Jinger is under the care of an OB/GYN in preparation for the birth of her child & not expecting Jill to do the honors of delivering the baby. We did hear before that Jill, Michelle & one of the other daughters, I don't remember which one, maybe Jessa, were going to be there when Jinger gave birth. Hopefully Jeremy realizes by now that you've seen one wedding in this family, you've seen them all. I agree no woman should be traveling either by car or plane, at that stage of her pregnancy. Both of my children were born 2 weeks early.

Just Wondering said...

I'm not so sure that either Josiah or Lauren are the ones that picked the date for the wedding. I think it's a sure bet that Jim Bob made that decision. Again, another decision based on the ratings the wedding will bring in for Jim Bob & TLC.

Mickey2942 said...

I would agree, that a couple who has eight children, and a Father who works as a "minister", probably doesn't have a lot of extra money lying around.

Mickey2942 said...

I recently saw a picture of Jessa when she was pregnant, before, it was a selfie, in a skin tight t shirt. What is the point of wearing dowdy "modest" clothing now? She certainly didn't do that when she was posting her pregnant belly.

There is a new psychopathology, for the next DSM manual, People who are obsessed with taking selfie snaps, seriously, it is an actual diagnosis, subset of Narcissism. And obsessively posting on Instagram.

Why are the Duggars so popular? Is it their own self promotion?

Missy said...

I cannot believe that college educated Jeremy, as Jinger's headship, would not demand she have a hospital birth under the care of a qualified doctor. This is especially after the horrible C secnion birth experiences of Jill and Jessa bleeding after the first birth. The man has to care enough about his wife and baby to keep her safe since Jinger is totally dependent on him, raised not to have her own opinions.

Too much time on my hands said...

I tried to do a little background search on Lauren's parents, Dwain and Lana Swanson. Not much info except he is a minister of men's group called "Courageous Men of the World" with 400 members. They have 9 children with Lauren being the oldest. Her mom had the 9 th baby this year (2018). They are from "central" Georgia which I found suspicious not even giving a town. It has been reported that the Swanson family moved from Georgia to be closer to the Duggars once Josiah started courting Lauren. My gut feeling is they (Jimbob and Swansons) are trying to stay under the radar with this courtship/wedding for some reason.

Willow said...

Just to add to what "Too much time on my hands" said: I believe the Forsyths and the Swansons encouraged the marriages of their respective children to enhance their "businesses". I know Joy already knew Austin and that could just be an added benefit, who knows. Were they really in love or was it "arranged" by the parents. Kind of like killing two birds with one stone. I just have the gut feeling that Mr. Swanson will do anything Jim Bob wants in order to help his "ministry". Just my opinion, just speculating. Lauren seems like a sweet girl and I hope she and Josiah are really in love and not just in love because they were told they should be.

I like Jinger, who isn't like Jill or Jessa said...

I wish Jeremy Vuolo would be a good husband and not tell the Duggar clan when Jinger goes into labor. As Jinger's headship he can tell her that she will be less stressed if she doesn't have them there in the way, gawking.

Emma said...

Too much time on my hands: I thought I had heard the name of the organisation Laurens dad heads up so I googled it and put Fort Rock after it (Austins familys camp) and I see their camp is hosting a courageous men of the WORD camp in August this year, they also held one last year and Austin and Joy help with it not long after they got back from honeymoon. These families are all in each others pockets, and help each other out business wise. I am sure JB hooked the Swansons up with the Forsyths, and in return Josiah gets to marry Lauren. It is no coincidence these families are all inter-connected they all follow the same brand of christianity, are patriarcal and go to IBLP/ATI conferences, the Duggars are royalty in their little circle so they probably fall over themselves to accommodate a wedding to a Duggar kid.

Believe It said...

I agree with Missy about Jeremy demanding a hospital birth for Jinger. However, remember that the well trained (via Alert Academy) EMT Austin, sat there while Joy was in labor,as her coach, with his arms around her abdomen & rubbing her belly & couldn't tell that there was something wrong going on there, which turned out to be a breech baby that weighed over 10 lbs. So I'm not sure just how much education plays into, home deliveries as opposed to Jim Bob the dictator of the family, having everyone pray for a "natural delivery." Cue the cameras TLC.

Just Me said...

I read the same information on the Swanson family. Isn't that just what a pregnant woman would want, uproot her family either while pregnant or with a new baby & move to another state where their only real contact is their teen daughter who is marrying into the Duggar Royalty? Of course, I can see the Dugars being impressed with someone who has the "title" of "Minister of Courageous Men of the World." Jim Bob may be smart when it comes to finances but he's easily impressed by these faux clergymen.

Ruby said...

That photo of Josiah and Lauren eating at the Marketplace Grill (why only and always Marketplace Grill?). I feel sorry for Josiah. The look on his face....i don't know....he looks like a brainwashed cult member. Yes, he has a beautiful fiancee....... I hope he found his soulmate.......I hope he is happy.....I hope he gets away from the compound and his overbearing father........I hope he learns to think for himself.......I hope he finds his own voice. Good luck Josiah.

sandi said...

Jim Bob is easily impressed alright.Look at Derick.My first question to him would have been,why have you been backpacking around Nepal for 2 years,and not using your college degree?

Just Saying said...

I can't believe how much Josiah looks like Josh. The facial hair does nothing for these young men. Guess they think if they can't have a head of hair they'll have face full. He's beginning to look like he needs a shower too.

Unbelievable said...

I understand that these young people have been brainwashed their entire lives but it's unbelievable in this day & age, to think that they do every thing their parents tell them to without question. It's just so sad to see so many lives being ruined. The parents make all the decisions. When my children were the age of Josiah & the others they were deciding if they planned to attend college, what college, what they would study, what they wanted to do with the rest of their lives. We raised them to a certain age & trusted them to make their own decisions from then on up to & including if they would marry & who they would marry & when. Needless to say they were not expected to present us with a grandchild within 9 months of marriage. Actually it's none of our business if they do or don't have children. Their lives are their lives & it's a sin what's been done to the Duggars children. The way they all have married their best friend in the world, who just happens to have a dad who is a friend or at least an acquaintance of Jim Bob. It's way past time for TLC to drop this show. It's not a ministry in any sense of the word. All these marriages have been so Jim Bob could keep lining his pockets with pieces of ill gotten gold. Does anyone see any differences between the courting, engagements & marriages of Joy & Austin, Joe & Kendra,& soon, Josiah & Lauren. Same thing different day & the money keeps rolling in. For someone who claims to know the Bible inside & out, Jim Bob missed the part where Jesus threw the men out of the Temple. Had something to do with pieces of gold too, I believe. In the end no good will come of Jim Bob's way of life.

Wondering Why said...

How many people are waiting with bated breath to see the wedding of Josiah & Lauren?I wonder if I'm the only one who thinks each wedding is a repeat or the one before it? I can't imagine if they invite the same people to each wedding, your head would be spinning. How much money have their nearest & dearest friends spent on wedding gifs over the past few yrs.?

So sad said...

I don't think there's a chance in the world that Josiah will get away from the compound. He's there for the rest of Jim Bobs life. Remember he was going to go to some sort of "college" to become an accountant. Well just like the rest of them that didn't happen. So far the only one with any distance from Michelle & Jim Bob is Jinger. Jessa & Ben are always at the big house. I'm sure Josh & family are also there, even if not filmed. John David can't live in his own house because he's not married. Joy & Austin are involved in the Fort Rock Camp & somehow Jim Bob has a finger in that pie & now we find out Lauren's dad will be a featured speaker there, again this summer. Joe & Kendra are right nearby, not out of the vicinity of the big house & will remain there too. So no those kids are not going anywhere. Jim Bob realizes he made a mistake in letting Jeremy into the family & it won't happen again. Jill & Derick are sort of on the fringes possibly trying to stay away from the Duggars but it won't happen. Everyone is dependent on Jim Bob. Jim Bob has everyone on a tight leash. Those kids have to do what will keep the show going to keep Jim Bob's bank account growing & they will. They know nothing else

lisa Mcginess said...

I know I am not looking forward to that wedding. I really wonder but Jim bod offers these families to marry his kids? only one I can not taking money is Jeremy. but who knows. he must be a good talker. Guess those twins are next.

Willow said...

Good sleuthing you guys! I didn't know the Swansons were "involved" or guests of the Forsyth camp. Not surprised though. Just proves the arranged or at least "suggested" marriages. That's why they are getting younger probably. Catch them before they mature enough to think for themselves. Right now, Joe and Josiah were just thinking, yay, they can get married and have sex. Wasn't Josiah going to go to work with Marjorie's dad? I think he does graphic design or something similar. I think that would have been so much better for Josiah. I too hope these young couples can find a way to be happy in their tiny little world. I was just thinking that Jim Bob's compound is starting to resemble the FLDS cult out in the desert. They all have inter-twined jobs I think. The only difference in the Jim Bob world is no multiple wives - yet. Luckily, I don't think Jim Bob is ready for that quite yet, but who knows? Also, the women have to dress a little better now, because of TV.

Just sayin said...

Re: So sad
You are 100% correct. Jimbob really screwed up his plan when he allowed Jeremy to marry Jinger. And thank God Jeremy rescued Jinger. I'm noticing a pattern in all these cookie-cutter style weddings. The sooner Jimbob gets control of the parents of the future courting girls, the easier they are to manipulate throughout the courting/wedding prep and baby making process. Jimbob is on slick salesman when it comes to peddling off his children.

Arlene said...

With these Gothard families intermarrying, in the next generation they will have to consider first cousins marrying each other since they are so closed off from the rest of the sinful world. There will be so many of the cousins without outside friends.

So Proud said...

Just saw on Instagram Tori Bates has graduated with a Bachelor of Science in Elementary Education. And it's so beautiful to see how encouraging her husband is of her completing her degree. I am so proud of that girl! I would love to see the Duggar girls follow suit. https://www.instagram.com/p/BihDv8DFQ5_/

Same stuff different day said...

There's just something off about Josiah and Lauren's engagement. I really think it's an arrangement. I've also noticed there really isn't much excitement or build-up from extended family members like there was for the other weddings. Maybe because it's one of the boys getting married. I wonder if the whole Duggar female entourage flew to wherever to pick out a freebie dress for Lauren. The whole wedding process for the Duggars is so predictable.

sandi said...

I hope Tori is allowed to use her degree,and not just until the first baby comes along

Mickey2942 said...

That is excellent. At least she can actually get a job and support herself, and family if needed. And being an Elementary school teacher is hardly a "sinful" environment.

NWArkie said...

Tori Bates has graduated with a Bachelor of Science in Elementary Education.

While it's nice that she was allowed (and encouraged, even) to do SOMETHING outside the home, it should be noted that Crown College is NOT accredited by any recognized educational accreditation organization, only the "Transnational Association of Christian Colleges and Schools." Crown College also does not offer a state-approved Educator Preparation program, which must be completed by anyone wanting to teach in Tennessee.

However, if all you're going to do is homeschool your kids, then I guess it doesn't matter. At least she can put together coherent sentences and do basic math. Much better than the "Duggar Academy" education (or lack thereof).

But, it's important to correctly identify unaccredited "schools" like Crown College that only provide a narrow education that is based on what they consider to be the "correct" Christian orientation and beliefs. Students are heavily indoctrinated with the "right" way to think from Day 1 (heck, from acceptance, since you must submit a "personal testimony of salvation" and a pastor's recommendation to even apply).

This is NOT the Bachelor of Science you would receive from an accredited university.

Linda said...

Tori can teach in a private school. She doesn't have to be certified for that.

Sharla said...

Talking about the subjects here is fine. Picking on other posters is not. You can state your opinions without trying to denigrate someone else.

Inquiring mind said...

In the instagram page it does say:
The academic world has some new titles for you now, Tori Layne: Crown Alumnus, College Graduate, Magna Cumme Laude, Structured Literacy Specialist -----> Bachelors of Science in Elementary Education.<----

So if she puts that on a resume wouldn't a school hire her?

roddma said...

Did anyone see the birthday post Kelly Bates made to Ellie? Kelly thanked her for helping with late night laundry and making dinner for their large brood. I'm not against kids helping but it seems like overkill.The post was made the day after the birthday on top of that.She has plenty of sons to help Oh wait it's not man's work. This shows once again they aren't better than the DUggars.

Aunt Bea said...

What is a young girl Ellie's age doing up late at night doing laundry in the first place? Why is this kid cooking? These are traditionally and biblically the MOTHER'S JOBS, are they not, folks? Waaaayyy too much is shuffled on the kids, daughters to be exact.

sandi said...

Inquiring mind,when a potential employer sees that Tori grad. from an unaccredited school,that makes a difference.Perhaps someone can go into more detail,but Crown is unaccredited for a reason.It limits their ability in the real world.Just what fundies want

Hettie said...

Jill has a business called "Labor Sit." https://www.intouchweekly.com/posts/jill-duggar-midwife-company-158672

Two of Jim Bob' Duggar's businesses were shut down- https://www.intouchweekly.com/posts/jim-bob-duggar-businesses-shut-down-159710

got2bdrc said...

While the terms, "magna cum laude" (with high honors in Latin), Crown college alumna, and BS Education so sound impressive, it's the transcript that will get someone hired or rejected. It's not universally true that private schools don't require a teaching credential in order to be hired. In my state, the secular privates require teaching credentials and a master's degree in education as minimum requirements. Catholic, mainstream Protestant, Jewish, Buddhist, and Hongwanji schools do, too. And none of them requires membership in their respective faiths, but they do ask teachers to promise to adhere to the faith's behavioral standards on the job.

The only schools that have a church membership requirement and no standard for a teaching credential of any kind are the evangelical Christian schools. I teach at the university level, and every time I get a graduate of one of those schools, I know I'm going to have to undue 13 years of bad grammar, poor logic, and limited knowledge of the physical sciences--and I teach business! Why is it that evangelical faith seems to engender ignorance?

Linda said...

Jill does not have a business. The rags are all wet on this one. She went to Oklahoma to attend a birth with Venessa. When she posted she used the hashtag labor sit. That does not mean she has a business.

Wondering said...

If Jill ever did decide to have a midwifery business I cannot imagine what the insurance cost would be. There must be some insurance involved when you are responsible for the lives of 2 people both mom & baby.

Teaching Degrees said...

My daughter teaches in a Private Christian School & was required to have both a Bachelors Degree & a Masters Degree. So I'm not sure what type of school hires graduates of an unaccredited college such as, "Crown College." It's a shame that anyone spends all that time, energy & money to attend these unaccredited colleges. Just exactly what has this prepared Tori for? Will she be able to make a decent living with this degree? We all know young women who suffer tragedy when the husband either looses his job or sadly passes away & they are left to support a family. While I certainly agree that teachers don't get the pay they deserve, they are respected at lest where I live & can manage on their pay, medical & retirement benefits. Do the schools that hire graduates such as Tori have a good pay scale & benefits & are there many of these schools? I truly don't know as I live in an entirely different area.

Ruby said...

Derick needs to just shut up about gender issues and gay lifestyles. Get a job, Derick and mind your own business like the bible says. 1 Thessalonians 4:11 "study to be quiet, and do your own business, and work with your own hands...." If he stayed busy with a job and the care of a house he wouldn't have time to yak on social media.

Mickey2942 said...

I read that the "Dillard Family Ministry" has stopped taking donations. Maybe Derrick is going to stop running marathons, and get a job to support his family. He would do well as an assistant manager at Chik-Fil-A. And no work on Sundays.

Mary said...

Jill does NOT have a midwife business. She doesn't even have a state license.

coleen said...

Per " Teaching Degrees said...
My daughter teaches in a Private Christian School & was required to have both a Bachelors Degree & a Masters Degree. So I'm not sure what type of school hires graduates of an unaccredited college such as, "Crown College." "

In the South, some private Christian schools hire from unaccredited Christian colleges; some don't even require teaching certificates. I think it depends on the student population and what the parents' want. Some private Christian schools are small and housed in churches. For example, a homeschool coalition might hire a teacher like this to teach classes the parents don't feel comfortable teaching.

cali-girl said...

I have taught in both private and parochial schools, and always needed a BS/BA degree IN MY SUBJECT area from an accredited college. State certification was required or highly encouraged as well in those schools. And, after a few years, I was expected to get my masters degree.

It's Magna CUM Laude, not cumme as her husband wrote in his Instagram message. Meaning: with great distinction.

Questions? said...

Just exactly how does Jill go around stating that she is a Certified Midwife, if she is not? Also how can she even talk about her business? Did she miss the part in the Bible about telling lies?I just don't understand but also agree that midwives must carry some type of malpractice insurance. As a nurse, if my employer does not carry sufficient malpractice insurance on me, I carry it myself, or I could possibly loose everything I have. I certainly need this insurance if I am doing private duty care on my own & not through an agency that has sufficient insurance. They never address any of these issues. They just have this business or that business. I wonder if Gill Bates carries insurance for his tree business, as any tree trimming business around my area are heavily insured. I wonder just how much of Jim Bob & Michelle's home that was built with the kids helping with everything including electrical wiring etc. would pass inspection & if there was an electrical fire does Jim Bob have insurance that covers using unlicensed workers, i.e. his kids ?

Linda said...

Jill passed the NARM midwife test. That qualified her to say she's a certified professional midwife. She still isn't licensed in Arkansas and that CPM test is ridiculously easy to pass.

sandi said...

I think most of the Duggar compound was finished by tlc,and presumably,would have to pass inspection?
As far as an electrical fire,I think a fire is a fire,and it wouldn't matter who did the work?

lisa Mcginess said...

anyone hear tori bates is going to have a child? even those she seems grown up I think they need to wait for a little. I hope she does not pop out those kids are Erin and her other sister. your body cannot handle it. I bet both Kelly and Michelle have some kind of issue with something having all those babies. only one I can see stopping is Whitney seems like she is happy with the two she has hopefully her and Zach will be different.

Tori said...

Lisa: I am sure Michelles and Kellys pelvic floors are destroyed, as each pregnancy and birth leads to weakening and eventually no amount of kegel exercises will help. I honestly don't think any of the Duggar or Bates kids will have as many kids as their parents. They have all seen it from the inside and know how difficult and expensive it is to have a mega family. The only couple I can see having a really large brood are Joe and Kendra, Joe is very much a Duggar and Kendra has been brought up in a very patriarchal home so will do what Joe wants. Jessa seems happy with her two at the moment although she will have more and with Jill only time will tell if she can or will have more. I think Whitney and Zach might have one or two more but I think that might be it for them. I admire Zach for striking out on his own and becoming a real LEO and Whitney for having a career, they are currently renovating a new home and the picutres they have shared of it so far are beautiful.

My Opinion said...

My dad was a fire chief & believe me they are immediately finding out who did wiring & all the other items that require a licensed person, that's why you need to hire licensed people. My dad always said you cold try doing the electrical work etc.on your own but if you ever had a fire the insurance co. wouldn't pay. Also the kids did do a great deal of work on that house. TLC came in & did the finish work especially the decorating.

Medical Professional said...

There should not even be a test that allows you to say you are a qualified professional midwife. I don't believe all states have a test such as the one Jill took. Nobody should be allowed to go around passing themselves off as fully qualified, due to passing some test that really means nothing. That's a lot different than a licensed person in the medical field, that needs to maintain a license, which requires renewal every 2 yrs. along with required courses of study & tests, that show you are up to date with current requirements. This test that Jill took certainly can mean the difference between the life & death of a mom & baby. I hope she doesn't start working as a midwife. So far,she hasn't exactly shown that she is proficient as a midwife.

Just sayin said...

I saw a posting that the property next to the mold- house that Jinger and Ben own is for sale for $200k.

Aunt Bea said...

I agree completely that either you are a properly educated, certified and licensed midwife OR you aren't and have no business being present at those home births.

Someone in the governmental regulation department needs to take a look at this.

Wishes said...

HAPPY MOTHER'S DAY, JANA!

coleen said...

Per " Just sayin said...
I saw a posting that the property next to the mold- house that Jinger and Ben own is for sale for $200k.
5/12/2018 6:51 PM "

Hope they share some of that money with Grandma Duggar.

Mickey2942 said...

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.intouchweekly.com/posts/duggars-barefoot-159815.amp

Yuck. I am definitely in the camp that children, babies, adults, should wear socks, and shoes. Flip flops are not shoes. Imagine the filthy feet.

Is it just too complicated for that many people in a home to have shoes? Or why buy shoes for kids, they just grow out of them?

I was working once, with a young man who had been, coincidentally, homeschooled, he had so many problems...one of which was his literal inability to wear any shoes, but flip flops. He couldn't stand to wear shoes, as it had never been an issue when "homeschooled".

sandi said...

There was a segment where Michelle took the kids to a thrift store and bought them all used shoes,but I guess that was just for the show

Willow said...

I think that is exactly the reason for the over- use of flip flops. I have always thought that Michelle probably just could not deal with socks plus the shoes for so many little kids. I can understand the issue but if you insist on the large number of children, its not fair to make them have to sacrifice. Make the commitment to do the best for them in every way. They deserve pajamas and shoes and socks. JMO.

Mickey2942 said...

I remember that, except the kids had new clothes for the "Duggar parade", when JB was running for office, the boys all in khaki pants, red polos, black shoes, girls in dresses, matching, with new shoes, Michelle in a big red dress, pregnant, of course. And this was a family, that was living in a 3 bedroom house, at the time.

auntliddy said...

JB's lifestyle has gotten deeper and darker thru the yesrs. Now its just kinda creepy.

auntliddy said...

Isnt every wedding the same? They invite a thousand people, have it outdoors, serve like popcorn and rootbeer floats and marshmellows. Its so juvenile!! Im sure most of stuff is donated.

Ginny Streeter said...

Why do all of the Duggars feel the need to post pictures of them kissing their spouses on a regular basis? It is just strange. Saw the picture D. posted of Jill wishing her a happy birthday. There are so many pictures of her with the kids, in dresses, looking nice. Why did he feel the need to post a selfie of them kissing. Strange people.

Carmel said...

Maybe the entire "shoe fund" budget got blown away by those ugly, thick, black orthotics Michelle always wears. So all the money that's left over to buy shoes only covers thrift store flip-flops for the "blessings". In families like these, it seems like it's the daughters that get stuck with the cheap shoes & hand-me-downs.

Elle said...

Oh, good grief. I just read on In Touch Weekly some clueless person is accusing Jessa and Ben only paying $1 to her grandmother and now they are going to sell the land for over $200k.

Obviously, the person has never looked at a deed. Looking at a property I have that is close in price but it shows I paid $1. Other properties show $10, although that is nowhere close to the price paid.

Inquiring mind said...

Just saw this picture of Jill Duggar Dillard. On the left side her hair is pulled back so we could imagine how gorgeous she would look if she got it cut in a cute style. However, I doubt that Derek would EVER allow that wad of 1900's hair be cut because Jim Bob likes it. https://www.intouchweekly.com/posts/duggar-family-short-courtships-160318

colen said...

http://www.tlc.com/tv-shows/counting-on/photos/kendra-duggars-baby-shower-photos/

Link to Kendra's baby shower photos.

Aimee said...

Colen - thank you for sharing the link to the baby shower. I am very glad to see that Kendra is wearing appropriate maternity clothing AND seems to not have a giant Duggar baby. I am hoping that because she is so close to her own mother that her family helps her make good, safe medical decisions for herself and the baby.

Auggie said...

Re Kendra's baby shower, Why do they always play such stupid games? There was the - shove your mouth full of marshmellows game & this one - feed your spouse while blindfolded. They really are like 13 year olds at their first boy/girl party.

No. Please stop! said...

Auggie, That is what I thought when I saw the ridiculous games. Why would anyone agree to playing that asinine BS baby food game? Instead, why not a version of pin the tail on the donkey (called pin the diaper on the baby)? That is as stupid. This is why I don't do showers! I prefer to send a gift but don't care to waste time I can never get back, expectyed to act like a little kid. I am surprised they aren't told to come in costume (dressed like an infant. Oh, don't tell Sierra Jo Dominguez or she will have them doing that! This is what happens when you are sheltered.

Dominguez Duggar said...

I always want to say Sierra Jo Duggar instead of Sierra Jo Dominguez.

Emma said...

Did anyone see Jills labor playlist that she posted on her instagram account and then on twitter? Derick then posted the same post on his twitter someone joked that the first song should have been 'take me to the hospital', to which he replied 'we always go to the hospital for our births'. Another poster then said it was as a last resort to which Derick then replied 'no it was the plan all along', this guy has so many versions of reality in his head he can't get his own story straight. Jill on both occassions said she wanted a natual home birth, but labored over 70 hours with Izzy, and the attempted an (illegal?) homebirth with Sam which resulted in a two week NICU stay for him and radio silence from the whole tribe for quite a while. Does Derick just post these things for the arguement that inevitably ensues, I really can't figure him out, things just get stranger and stranger.

One tired lady said...

I am a bit surprised that Derick responds. I have seen other Duggar Tribe members and they seem to post a picture and then never interact by responding to 'fans'.

smitty said...

anyone on wedding watch Josiah and lauren wedding should be soon anytime now. thought it would be last weekend but guess her time of the month was not then? suppose it will be the next weekend? Joy got married on the last saturday in may. Should be anytime now.

roddma said...

Typically in the past men didn't go to baby showers nor bridal showers. It weirds me out thinking about Gil Bates and Jim Bob at the bridal showers, but it was the time I grew up and it wasn't common. Maybe it was for the show but still weird. Plus it seems the women can't do anything without the men. IMO showers are for women folk to let loose.

Ellie On a Roll said...

I just saw an instagram video of Israel reciting /chanting some bible verses. As an educator, I'm concerned that he hasn't had preschool screening. He sounds like he has a speech impediment.

Tori said...

Ellie on a Roll: Someone on twitter who said they were a speech therapist said the exact same thing, and said he needed help asap to prevent communication problems later. Sad thing is his parents won't do anything about it, and if Jill is going to home school him he will never get any screening or help. I feel so badly for the next generation, how can they get any level of education from graduates of the Duggar Academy who are barely educated themselves?

Mickey2942 said...

They need guidance and supervision from their "headship", on a constant basis. Not allowed to be in any presence of anything that could possibly influence them to have independent thought. The brainwashing and control has to keep a tight grip.

Not A Fan In The North said...

In the Upper Midwest it is becoming very common for showers to be for guys along with their fiancé or spouse or significant other because the wedding or baby to be aren’t just about the bride or new mom. This is actually a progressive and inclusive idea but it probably isn’t why the Duggar clan has both females and their man at a shower.

ashley said...

Ok. I will go with men and women both being invited to the celebration of a new baby. Maybe that is why the family hosts it as it is going to be expensive to pay for the food for a big event....but of course TLC pays and oftentimes clueless, but overly confident Sierra Jo Dominguez to come up with some eye-bugging childish event with tasteless decorations she gleaned from Pinterest.

Amanda Murray said...

Did you see John David isn't happy with Jim Bob's overspending? It looks like he might try to break free.

Not my religion said...

I feel that we are seeing JB lose control of a number of the children. Jinger and Jeremy for a number of reasons. Jill and Dillweed are attending Muslim celebrations and going off on tangents on the internet. Now John David seems to becoming even more vocal and disillusioned with Duggar lifestyle. This could be interesting...

Mickey2942 said...

Who will be pregnant next?

I am guessing Anna Duggar will be "Blossoming" soon, after all, she only has 5 kids. Her youngest, Mason, is almost a year old.

Or? Who is your favorite next pregnant Duggar?

laura said...

Just found this little gem, the article says its from 2013:
"Whenever I'm cooking around the house, I always have little ones wanting to help, and that's my joy because I realize I am training them, so they can be efficient and responsible and hopefully, replace mom in the kitchen," she confesses. "That's my goal, I want to mentor them so that I can make disciples in the kitchen, so they can do what I done."
So many things I could say and im short on time so I think 'disgust' and 'useless' pretty much sums this up.

Pam said...

I suppose Jessa could be pregnant soon too. If no one is expecting by July when Jinger and Kendra give birth, there may be a short while where there are no Duggar "buns in the oven".

Mickey2942 said...

Jed and Jer are 19 years old, I don't see anyone lining up their daughters for those 2, but, I could be wrong. All boys now, until Johanna.

The next ones in line are John David and Jana, that is, if JB will let Jana out of the laundry room. John David may be looking, but I don't see him with a simpering, giggly 18 year old, but, I could be wrong.

Way to go said...

Where are you all seeing that about John David becoming more vocal?

lisa Mcginess said...

watching the bates show and kelly jo says she wants to be best friends with her children? sorry but you cannot be best friends with your children. guess she says that because they never see their kids with any friends? that is not normal. duggar have no friends outside of their family either until some person they start courting.

Trish said...


lisa Mcginess' comment about the Duggars not having friends outside of family reminded me of Royal families and their insular nature. The Duggars are one step away from inbreeding.

sandi said...

Trish,I agree.Imagine how happy Jim Bob would be if everyone in the US had the last name Duggar.I think he would be over the moon thrilled!

lisa Mcginess said...

tevenandersonfamily.blogspot.com

read the blog she gives a review of the pearl book. seems they are fundie family but is agsaint the Pearl book.

Sharla said...

That would be steven not teven. :)

sandi said...

http://stevenandersonfamily.blogspot.com/2015/09/micheal-pearl-makes-fool-of-himself.html

Not my religion said...

It's been very quiet on the Duggar news lately. No pregnancy updates or announcements, no new courting or engagement announcements, not much talk about wedding prep for Josiah and Lauren's upcoming wedding, I bet the wedding is coming up in the next week or so.

Tori said...

There is a rumor going about that Derick is possibly heading to law school. Apparently he follows a lot of law college prep schools on his (now locked up) twitter account. Someone who knows him let the cat out of the bag, although when asked directly to confirm it they didn't reply. Why would a missionary need to go to law school? Maybe he is planning to go into politics in the future and this is a way into that (theres a scary thought for you!) If its true it just seems a really strange direction to go in from accountant to 'missionary' to 'student' to law school, just waiting fo the go fund me, law school doesn't come cheap!

Sharla said...

Don't be mislead by the fake date on the registry for Josiah and Lauren.

Mickey2942 said...

Poor Jill, married to "Peter Pan". Derrick's new goal must be to rack up student loan debt, anything to not actually work.

I am quite impressed at his bravado regarding TLC, he just had to spout off...he is so obsessed with gay men, transgenders. The problem with fundies, they spend so much time together, agreeing with each other, that they say the most delusional things, and expect the world to also agree. #toomuchfundie

Ellie On a Roll said...

My predictions for Lauren's bridesmaids will be 2 of her sisters and then Jana, Jill, Jessa, and Joy. I doubt Jinger, Kendra or Anna play major roles in the production.

Trish said...

Maybe JimBob is footing the law school bill. Maybe there's something on the horizon for which the family will need representation, maybe Josh's been a bad boy again?

Willow said...

I think all of the ideas and guesses about Derrick and law school are interesting and possible. Why change from accounting? He could make a nice living from an accounting degree and if he got a calling to be a missionary, why give it up now? My mom used to call people like this "professional students". They just cannot face growing up and being responsible. Being a student gives them a lot of excuses for things. I kind of really like the idea of a family lawyer though, that is so Duggarish. lol

laura said...

Until we see an actual report card on actual real live accredited law school paper with Derrick dillards actual name on it I will never believe his smoke and mirrors bs.
School requires the magical thing called Hard Work.

Ellie On a Roll said...

By the recent amount of merchandise being bought off of Josiah and Lauren's wedding registry, I'd say the wedding is very close.

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got2bdrc said...

Is it true that Josiah and Lauren moved their wedding day back six months?

KL said...

Joy and Ausin used her birth month to throw off people regarding their wedding date. When they got married sooner people started rumors that they did it because she had sex before marriage and was pregnant. I hope nobody does that to Lauren and Josiah.

lisa Mcginess said...

anyone know who marci monte dauer is. seems like she is in the gothad cult also some friends of the duggars.

lisa Mcginess said...

seems this Marci woman is such the opposite of the Duggars. I wonder how many people really attend this event. I cannot see anyone going since she is the opposite of what the Duggars say they are.

Mickey2942 said...

https://www.intouchweekly.com/posts/jill-duggar-chicken-salad-recipe-is-horrifying-161015

Thought I would share this...not sure I would label it "horrifying", but it is sad that Jill does not seem to be much of a chef. I don't think cooking is something the Duggar family does.

Tori said...

I think Lauren and Josiahs wedding will be this month probably after Kendras due date and before Jingers. It will also be timed so that the seasons first episode in July will be the wedding special followed by the ass backwards courtship, engagement, free dress and a longer rehash of the wedding, gotta milk the last drop from the cash cow!!