June 16, Grand Duggar Special

No details yet, but I heard the promos were airing.

115 comments:

Stephanie said...

I Guess M3 is safely delivered, I guess June 2nd and it took them til late tonight to get a prime TLC airtime to expose Anna's private parts once again.

Will one of Michelles girls blessing allowiing cameras to film their genitals will giving birth on a toilet I doubt it. But the the Duggars see themselves as superior to those Kellers, so its ok for Anna to degrade her body on TV and defraud any male viewers who may have a pregnacy fetus.

taurus0385 said...

Only thing i seen was s facebook post. So does that mean anna is doing a hospital birth and being induced or did she already have the baby?

Andrea said...

Without a doubt the baby has been born. It's not possible to plan a show highlighting his birth without him actually having been born. If the baby isn't born it would only prove to me these people are seriously degranged, but it makes sense .. She was induced a week before her due date and gave birth to a health baby, hence the show can be produced and aired. It also makes sense that in light of Jim Bob and Michelle going to NC for some publicity for the Special.

That said, no way this will make the front of People Magazine. I think there might be a short segment on the Today Show next Friday to promote the special on Sunday, the 16th. But otherwise this will garnish minimal media attention. Seriously, No one cares!

Rudy Tecat said...

I hope David Waller shows up with his baby, too, so Josh and he can do some more wrestling. Best two out of three.

hello said...

David looked like he was enjoying wrestling around with Josh in the mud a little too much. I am sure he would be up for a rematch.

Savanna said...

I see the name is listed as Marcus Andrew on several sites? I feel bad for Anna, can see even go out to the store? and how does she handle people coming up to her asking about the baby? Does she tell them to watch the special? This whole pregnancy has been odd. the thought the hide it for months, for what a big announcement on tv? that didn't get good ratings?

Beth Anne said...

Re: "She was induced a week before her due date and gave birth to a health baby, hence the show can be produced and aired."

Probably correct, and this whole thing is so deranged. What an inflated sense of self-importance these folks have to feel that everything must be filmed and aired. Of course, their "fans" will be 'encouraged' by having the birth announced on air, via the showing of the actual birth, versus Josh and company acting like normal people who announce their new blessing right after it happens.

Whatever flaws Jon Gosselin had and still has, I respected him when he said, quite sincerely, that he knew it was time to pull the plug on "Jon and Kate Plus 8" when their lives became about the show, versus the other way around. Kate, of course, LOVED being on the show, with the accompanying speaking engagements, books and book tours, and adoration from her 'fans.' The Duggars, particularly Jim Bob, Michelle, Josh, and probably the older girls, lest Jana, seem to be following in Kate's footsteps, enjoying the celebrity status and thinking they are some sort of Christian superhero crusaders, when they are just really coming across as enjoying the spotlight a bit TOO MUCH. JMHO

Lauren said...

His name is Marcus Anthony. He was born on Sunday and weighed 9 lbs 3 oz. It's Today Show official.

hannah said...

I read it was on the today show.


Marcus Anthony was born on Sunday, June 2nd. 9lb 3oz, 21" long

mom in texas said...

He's here: Marcus Anthony Duggar

http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20706962,00.html

Beth Anne said...

Just saw it online:

"Anna gave birth to their son Marcus Anthony Duggar on Sunday, with the baby weighing in at 9 lbs., 3 oz., People reports."

MCL said...

Marcus Anthony Duggar was born on 6/2.

http://www.today.com/moms/hes-here-duggars-introduce-third-grandchild-6C10233474

MCL said...

19 Kids & Counting: GrandDuggar Makes 3!" premieres Sunday, June 16, at 8 p.m. ET/7 Central on TLC.

Ally said...

GrandDuggar #3 Marcus Anthony was born on Sunday: http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20706962,00.html

Looks like they're doing the "M" thing the way they elder Duggars did the "J" thing.

Ashley said...

I'm assuming everyone saw this. Marcus Anthony was born on Sunday. http://www.today.com/moms/hes-here-duggars-introduce-third-grandchild-6C10233474

stephanie said...

Ruby,
Maybe they could have the babies wrestle.

Stephanie said...

Who else is thrilled to Anna's private parts pixalated on tv again?

They won't back off because this must feature Jill being an midwife-in-training and Jana fetching water.

puddin' said...

Oh boy ~eye roll~ Another live Duggar birth on TLC ...hopefully not on the toilet. These same old same old story lines are boring. TLC churns out live births all morning long its boring TLC boring!!! Women have been giving birth for how long? Why is this such big news? Get some new stories or Hold da phones a Courtship *like JimB would allow that* NEW STUFF WE WANT NEW STUFF!

B~free said...

Stay Tuned Folks, next year or Mmm in about ten or 11 months it will be the same old tune. C'mon Duggars give us some twins or better yet courtships that would be worth the watch, all these live births ughhhhh.

Rudy Tecat said...

Wow...I didn't know Josh and Anna were such big fans of J-Lo's ex.

Andrea said...

From People Magazine:

The couple had the whole family over to meet Marcus, with the third-time grandmother looking especially smitten.

What a joke! Michelle was especially smitten - The reporter expects us to believe this?!

Also, got to hurt ... Not a live announcement on the Today show but rather a two minute announcement by Natalie Morales - ouch. The news didn't come out until Friday, five days after the birth, how much do you want to bet the Duggar team was desperately trying to get a big announcement on the Today show but this is what they got instead!

Hey Jim Bob: Want to keep your cash cow show going? This is what the public actually wants to see; daughters going to an accredited university, daughters being allowed to go on a date, moving into their own apartments, etc. otherwise your show is DONE!

sandi said...

Yes I think they ought to do a special on the Bates now,bring them back.(Enough of the births!).Erin's upcoming marriage,and I don't mean the Duggars all trooping to it.I mean do it from the Bates' perspective.
I am wondering how the older Duggar girls feel now.Anna and Josh 3 kids,Erin getting married and looks like Alyssa courting soon.I wonder if they feel like stuck old maids.

ES Lady said...

I agree, I would love to see what the Bates family is doing these days.

Nancy said...

Last Sunday? As in June 2? Pay up now! :D

beef said...

I agree with those who said this show is done unless they feature something else besides the "barefoot and pregnant" thing. It would be amazing, although highly improbably, to see one of the Duggar daughters attempting to go to real college or have an actual career. A courtship is the best we could hope for, but even that would be far superior to yet another birth.

Judy said...

I don't like the name Marcus...I had guessed it would be Matthew.

Judy said...

It would bother me if they truly did induce her just so they could control the time of the birth. It's really not good to induce people without a medical reason.

hannah said...

I think she was induced to the size of the baby(9 pounds) They didn't want it to get any bigger.

MandySue said...

This didn't even make the NWA news....it's like they are so, so, normal and not special at all. Gasp!

Nancy said...

Michelle "smitten" over the birth of a baby that's not hers? Given her chilly behavior toward the two grandchildren she already has, I call BS.

That picture of Michelle basically steamrolling Mack and Mike at the front door of J&A's house without any sort of greeting tells all I need to know about her actual relationship with her grandkids.

Beth Anne said...

Speaking of the pictures, anyone else worry about the newborn being exposed to the germs of so many Duggars? I get that they all want to meet the new baby, and OF COURSE JB and Michelle would never pass on a photo op, but it's like they're all lined up on the demented Duggar number line and just 'happen' to have professional photographer on hand to capture the big happy family on film, with goodness knows how many germs floating around poor Marcus. I don't know, maybe a little time for mom to recover and for Marcus to slowly assimilate into this new world would've been nice....but the Duggar agenda is the Duggar agenda, germs or not!!!

puddin' said...

How many here think in about 11 months it will be the same ole same ole with WHAT ..another live birth? This has about ran its course, i personally dont want to see another WHAT live duggar birth. That is all its about...good grief women give birth every day and night gee ...wow big deal when the Duggars do it? If Jimboob and Michelle can make it happen you all know that it will be a live birth from them as well...i just cant understand that they know they are almost 50 years old ...time to enjoy the Grandkids but ooh noo thats not Duggar style. ughhhh....

puddin' said...

Totally agree with Beth Anne on the germ aspect. Film crew and all The Duggars and who knows who else. They have flipped their lids no concern over the baby and cleanliness. Its all about the money and if they say different HAHAHA on that. Shame on You Duggars.

mythoughtis said...

Michelle may actually be a 'little smitten' with this grandchild.... born 4 years after her last child. She may now be realizing that the only babies she will get will be her grandchildren.

Also, it may have occurred to her that she will only see him a couple times a year now.
But, she will only be smitten for 6 months. After that, he will be ignored just liked the older two grandchildren.. and most of her own children.

zebracrossing said...

Michelle also may be enjoying those baby boys....she hasn't had one of those in a while.

Judy said...

I saw the Duggars promoting their special on The Today Show this morning. I was laughing at Jenna Wolfe doing the interview in their home since she is a lesbian who used a sperm donor to achieve her current pregnancy -- I can't imagine the Duggars being too happy with that!

Judy said...

It was also very weird when one of the younger boys (who knows which one?) was asked to say all the kids' names and he added Caleb and Jubliee in their birth order as though this was normal.

Betty said...

Somebody has a sense of humor sending a lesbian to the Duggar home. If they knew, I guess we see promotion won over their values.

Tammy C said...

I know isn't funny about Jena Wolfe.I would loved to have been a fly on the wall to hear the questions and answers about if Jena is married and about a father for the baby!

zebracrossing said...

can anyone post a link to the Today show segment mentioned, please?!

Sharla said...

http://www.today.com/moms/father-newest-duggar-well-take-it-one-time-6C10321763

MandySue said...

Why does the ENTIRE Family have to be there? Why not just Josh and Anna? What happened to leave and cleave?

Christy said...

I chocked on my coffee when I saw the article on MSNBC!

The first mistake was them headlining the story with 'Father of newest Duggar grandchild.' He is the only one yet 'allowed' to procreate. Hey you, editor, know much about your subjects? Nah, it's obvious you don't. Shame on you since your company is second only to TLC in promoting this family..

Next, I saw that picture of Jenna holding this newest blessing. That gave me a belly laugh for sure! While Jenna is welcome in my home anytime, hugging my children, I shudder to think what the Duggars will do when someone mentions to them the details of Jenna's pregnancy and her marital status, etc. Will they call the local whack-job and ask for a cleansing of their home? Will Joshie want to borrow my Catholic Church blessed Holy Water on Marcus? Sorry dude, you only begrudgingly dealt with us Catholics during your Santorum era so I am not sharing!

Then, how dumb was Josh to keep saying 'We are happy with our three right now...our three feel good right now...we enjoy our family of three, blah, blah, blah?' You and Anna are so happy for what, less than TWO WEEKS with your three? Stop talking Joshie before someone in D.C. hears your drivel and rescinds that job offer.

Finally, THANK YOU JOSHIE FOR FLAPPING YOUR LIPS LONG ENOUGH TO CONFIRM WHAT WE ALL HAVE KNOW ALL ALONG...your parents don't raise their own little ones and won't spend any meaningful time with yours either! Stop by for a hour, maybe scarf down a big ol' helping of tater tot casserole but then, grab those three and go home!

Geez, will any of them EVER learn to zip it?!?!

Yes, they will...once the TLC bank closes their accounts!

zebracrossing said...

Thank you! Jena Wolfe is adorable. I am hearing Josh say..."It's not about how many...." but another time Anna seemed to be anxious to have as many as possible. Mixed messages.

hannah said...

: "After months of anticipation, the Duggars' special delivery is about to arrive... a new grandson! And when Anna goes into labor, the pressure is on. This is Anna's first time not delivering a baby at home but instead at her midwife's house -- more than an hour away. Will the birth go as planned, or will baby #3 make an unexpected entrance? Luckily, Jill and Jana will be there to help her every step of the way. While they wait to meet their new son, Josh, Anna, Mackynzie and Michael head to Washington, D.C. to start looking forward their new home. Can they navigate this bustling city or will they get lost in the shuffle?"



http://www.thefutonc.../20130614tlc01/

Beth Anne said...

Re: ...the Today show segment mentioned

ZZZZZ....oops, sorry, I fell asleep watching yet ANOTHER Today Show segment that talked about how many, many, many kids the Duggars have, showed their pantry and laundry area, all while commenting about HOW MANY KIDS THEY HAVE. We get it. Really. I knew two super-sized families growing up, with 13 and 14 kids respectively, and they never got a reality show or were fawned over by 'fans' for having so many kids. Nor did any of the children name miscarried babies if asked to recite the names of their siblings. These were churchgoing folk as well, but of course they weren't as vocal about their holiness as the Duggars are. I'm. So. Over. Them.

sandi said...

I'm not sure the Duggars knew of Jeana's personal details? I thought it was hilarious when she asked them if she could come back with her newborn and her other 18 kids once she has them!
I think I read somewhere the Duggars didn't allow tlc to bring anyone who is gay into their home,around the kids?
I felt bad for Anna in the clip of her heavily pregnant and pushing the other 2 kids in a stroller around DC.Really,give her a break tlc! At one point she was running across the street with the stroller.They always have her on some venture late into her pregnancy.Enough.

Marites H. said...

Is is just me or is that the very pregnant Anna Duggar pushing the double stroller onto the aircraft as Josh walks ahead of her toting only a backpack. Can you say lazy??

Hannah said...

Josh making his wife at 33 weeks pregnant cart around two kids and walk ahead with a small bag.

Josh making his son "thank him" for letting him ride a car in a store. I am sure the store was not very happy about it. He didn`t even let Mack have a turn.

Josh not saying "I Love You" when in the van, and trying to freak her by saying hell "do fancy driving". WHY CAN`T HE BE IN THE BACK AS WELL?

Mack and Mike both seem well vocal and be on track for their age. Good Job, Anna.

I felt so bad for, she is "please don`t let him die". Michelle told he won`t...but COME ON. I guess showing woman very sacred and in pain is double points.




Judy said...

I enjoyed the special. I'm glad to see that Anna was not induced. I feel like something must have happened with the doctor's wife who delivered Anna's babies in her house before? Remember her? Because why else would they not use her again?

Just me said...

It seemed to me that Anna was a bit afraid of a water birth. She asked for water to be drained and then prayed not to let the baby die. Do you think they ignored her wishes and concerns because she was to far along in labor or do her wishes not count? I hope it was the first one.

Nancy said...

Teresa Fedosky, the doula Anna used for the first two births, is the wife of a doctor. Or, more accurately, a former doctor. His license was revoked; I'm sure her side business was a side business for his practice (the Bradley classes were held in his offices). Even if she can still practice as a doula, I doubt the Duggars would touch her with a 10' pole now.

I was curious how long Jana has actually been "studying" to be a doula. It can't take THAT long, can it? I doubt that either Jill or Jana really assisted at Anna's birth; they both stood at the end of the pool with perfectly clean scrubs on. You'd think they'd be wet after Anna had been thrashing around in the pool for a while.

Michelle? What was up with her in the car just starting ahead and not saying a word, then mouthing the usual platitudes after Anna had given birth? Why bother bringing her at all, except to prove to the critics that she really does care for her grandkids. Uhm, it appears that J&A had to wait for Michelle to show up to their house with a babysitter (Joy?), delaying their trip by two hours it appears they could have used for Anna to be a little more comfortable.

Don't get me started on DC, other than to say...delusional. Also, Anna, get yourself some REAL SHOES. Schlepping around DC 33 weeks pregnant in flip flops is pretty much a guarantee of future foot problems. Orthotic flip flops aren't that expensive and last a helluva lot longer than those bargain-bin things she's wearing.

Yoga for the first time at 36 weeks? First off, she could barely stand due to the fallen arches. TLC production manipulation much? The other women in the class obviously started classes much earlier in their pregnancies (and probably practiced yoga before their pregnancies). Anna has a lot to learn about fitness. Frankly, she needs to talk to her sister about a workout regimen to regain her figure. Pris looked like she'd never had a baby less than a month after her 9 lb. baby was born; not so when Anna had Mack. Hopefully Josh's foray into working out really DID teach her something and that's not FU pablum for the critics.

Dar said...

What phonies these people are. Jill and Jana playing around with assisting at birth. Neither is anyway near able to do so. Anna was smart enough to have qualified people around her. I don't understand why they waited so long to get to the midwife or why it was necessary to wait for Michelle. She certainly did not provide any comfort to her daughter-in-law. Her sisters-in law were there to pass the newborn to its father and generally get in the way.

I saw every person hold the new baby but Michelle. The jealousy on her face is soooooo evident. This is one lady who is having a difficult time passing the mantle.

It speaks volumes when Anna is so impressed because Joshie could take HIS two children and get them shoes. She is going to be in for a rude awakening the more children she has. It will only get harder unless poor little Mackenzie has to step up to the plate sooner rather than later.

Jillian Kay said...

I know many people say Josh is a lazy, uninvolved father. But, I do remember hearing in this episode one of the little kids saying something along the lines of "I want to go with Daddy" when Josh and Anna went in different directions in DC. I assume this proves that Josh does spend time with his kids, as they clearly wanted to be with him.

Judy said...

It normally takes about ten weeks to go through the classes to become a doula, and then you have to attend a certain number of births so I'm not sure why it is taking Jana so long to do it. It seems like Jill is actively trying to become a midwife, kudos to her.

Special Ed Lady said...

How could they be so surprised at housing costs in D.C.?Surely when he was offered the job, they sat down and did the math. His salary is this much, cost of living will be this much is this a good choice.

Buck said...

Good for Anna for venturing to a food truck serving falafel (and not the tater-tot truck) Obviously, the kiddos didn't go for it but at least she tried.

Nancy said...

Oh, I have no doubt that Mikey is the Little Prince, just as Josh was in his family. We'll see how the relationship between Mackynzie and Mike plays out down the road, but I have a feeling by the time Mack is 6, she'll be washing and changing diapers while the Little Prince plays around with his toy cars and is reluctant to share with Marcus and any future issue from this couple. They'll be effectively separated by their gender roles and being the oldest, Mike will be as separated from his younger siblings, especially once Josh starts taking to whatever "work" he's doing in 10 years or so when the boys start shadowing Dad.

Christine said...

I live in Northern Virginia, and I was shocked when they were house-hunting in DC (unless this was staged for the show, which I almost wish it was as it would be a reasonable explanation for why they seemed to be looking to live in the city). There's no way they are going to be able to afford to buy a house in the city that will accommodate themselves and three + children unless they are supplemented by Jim-Bob or the show (but then, they would be going against the leave-and-cleave principle, wouldn't they).

I expected they would live outside the beltway, where houses are more reasonably priced and the kids could have a yard. But Josh would have to drive at least an hour into work, and I expect that he doesn't want to do that, hence, why they were house-hunting in DC.

After viewing last night's episode, I fear that if they do live in the city vs the suburbs, Anna won't be able to adjust, culturally or logistically with her three young children.

Also, didn't they check the house prices before they left Arkansas? And I can't believe that Josh showed up to his Washington meeting in jeans.

If that wasn't staged, then they both have a huge culture shock ahead of them.

Cynthia said...

OH MY! It seemed as if Anna was trying so hard to get Josh's approval and accommodate him! Also that annoying honking of the horn that Josh reminds me of Jim Bob. Last bu not least. What the heck is wrong ALL of them coming to pay a visit when Anna just came home from delivering a baby.Ewwwwww all those germs!

Judy said...

I'm sure the house hunting was staged. It's more likely that Josh and Anna already had a place to live at that point. Despite the claim that this is reality, so much of this show appears staged. Anna might "really" be doing yoga, but my guess is the producers came up with a scenario, and set up some place for her to go so they could shoot it.

Jillian Kay said...

"Teresa Fedosky, the doula Anna used for the first two births, is the wife of a doctor. Or, more accurately, a former doctor. His license was revoked;"
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Does anyone know why his license was revoked?

Buck said...

What does this say about the Duggars? - - when their only child that goes off to work joins an organization known for their vile lies and for denigrating and attacking an entire segment of the population and their families. And what does it say about the FRC who hires someone with no corporate experience as "executive director"? And what does it say about the "Christians" who admire either one of these?

RedHandedJill said...

I agree with what someone said above about Anna seeming uncomfortable during the tub scene. Everyone was arguing with her as she's in the middle of the delivery. Okay, sure, it's pretty common knowledge that water births are safe, but if the woman is not comfortable with that type of delivery, she shouldn't feel forced to do it, and people shouldn't argue with her when she's already so vulnerable. That scene made me cringe.

Also,what was up with Michelle's hair in that scene? It looked like she had just been at a major event. I almost didn't recognize her.

Beth Anne said...

Re: And what does it say about the "Christians" who admire either one of these?

That they are probably not 'true' Christians in the sense of showing love and concern for all people. I understand people have different opinions on social issues, and I would never want to see someone being labelled as "hateful" if they feel, in their hearts, that marriage is between a man and woman, or that life begins at conception, or hold other typically 'conservative' views. But, the way you express those views, interact with others with differing opinions, and conduct yourself in general does speak volumes about your character.

And I can only agree with what someone said earlier that the FRC wants the publicity that comes from hiring Josh Duggar. He has NO relevant experience or real-word training for lobbying, and as much as he makes me cringe in SO many ways, I kind of feel bad for him that he is probably feeling all happy about the job and will probably feel all-too-soon overwhelmed and completely unprepared. Good job, JimBob and Michelle (sarcasm intended)!

Nancy said...

Here's a link to the denial of Scott Fedosky's appeal for re-licensure. He apparently wrote fraudulent Rx's for "controlled substances" for his personal use and, reading the DOJ findings, also attended rehab, but it apparently still wasn't enough for him to get his licensure back.

http://www.deadiversion.usdoj.gov/fed_regs/actions/2011/fr1117_5.htm

Anonymous said...

Dr Fedosky was dipping his hands in the narcotic candy dish. It's public info. The last I read, the board only revoked his ability to write narcotics, but apparently he had a dirty test. Not sure what has happened since that.

Michigander1969 said...

Anyone else think that was a wig Michelle was wearing?

Stephanie said...

"Miss Shelly" had to show Jill how to do the blood pressure check correctly? What?? Hasn't she been training for two years? Didn't she use medical equipment checking BP & Jubilees heartbeat 2 years ago?

I have really had a change of heart regarding Josh. He grow up incredibly poor, undereducated, under socialized, on TV with incredibly embarassing parents. Pushed to marry young so he could actually touch a girl, exposed his wifes privates on TV and by some miracle he can move away and meet new people and seize new opportunities. Oh yeah, he had to build his mom and dads house, literally.

imaamy said...

Michigander...something was way different. At first when they were leaving the house I thought she was the doula...didn't look like Michele at all!

sandi said...

>And what does it say about the FRC who hires someone with no corporate experience as "executive director"? And what does it say about the "Christians" who admire either one of these?
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I think it is not just the Duggar brand and name they want,I also think it has something to do with what Josh and Anna stand for: a young Christian couple popping out baby after baby after baby,is what they anticipate.I think this is one of the political goals of this group,and they hired what they think represents a young 'Jim Bob and Michelle' of sorts.It's all about the future,IMO.SO when ppl think of this group,they will 'forget' the hate and think of the 'loving' huge Duggar family.
JMO.

Slightly Freaked Out... said...

I suspect that Josh's position is purely promotional. That is to say that he will have no real responsibilities in his role other than as a mouth-piece. As correctly pointed out by many, he lacks the fundamental corporate skills for holding an actual executive director role (ie coherent communication, managerial training, leadership skills and most importantly some educational background other than kitchen table grammar).

It breaks my heart that there are probably many out in the general public who think that the hateful views of the FRC and Gothard are Christian values.

Just Me said...

I agree FRC wanted a fresh young face.

An article in the Washington Post said as much

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/reliable-source/wp/2013/06/18/josh-duggar-moving-to-d-c-for-political-job-with-family-research-council/

It also said that Perkins and Jim Bob have kept in touch since 2002.

It also said TLC is not planning a spin off. They will be following the Arkansas Duggars and "life in the big city" with Josh and Anna

chanandelerbong said...

I just caught the replay of the special. Didn't see the beginning but I was really caught off guard by one thing: Michelle's look while they were in the van on the way to the delivery of Marcus. Wow! Her face was so stern, so emotionless! We rarely see her like that and I can clearly see (now!) how she would be a very, very stern disciplinarian. I was so surprised at how she looked like she wanted to scream. I felt so horrible for Anna and while she was delivering, she was clearly nervous about delivering in a tub. Why wasn't she allowed to get out? She even asked to drain the tub before he was delivered. Then asking God to not let him die. Wow, it was disturbing and incredibly sad. :( I normally take this show with a grain of salt but I was moved to comment today because true colors were revealed to me. (I'm a little slow in that arena, I know!)

Marites H. said...

I've never given birth, but isn't waiting to leave home with the contractions 2 min. apart taking a big risk? Especially when they know it will be a 1 hr drive to get there, maybe more if there's alot of traffic. I didn't recognize Michelle at first. She didn't look too enthused about going along and didn't look back at Anna to reassure her when she's crying out in pain in the backseat. Then in the "talking head" segment, she was bubbling over about how wonderful it was to be a grandma and how much she was looking forward to meeting him.

Anna looked absolutely terrified in the tub and everyone around her was arguing. Not very conducive for keeping the labouring mother calm and relaxed. I seriously doubt a water birth was her choice for delivery. But I guess it makes for good TV ratings.

From the title of the episode I assumed it would be more about the delivery than skipping around the timeline of events until showing the birth in the last 10 minutes of the show. My mom (who doesn't watch the show as often as I do) commented on the skipping back and forth between Arkansas and DC. It seemed very disjointed.

Who goes "window-shopping" for houses? That must have been staged. Surely Josh and Anna could put their brain cells together and realize that living in DC will be very expensive. Anna looked a bit frantic keeping track of the "kiddos" in the park -- 2 running around and 1 more on the way. If this job of Josh's pans out (which I seriously doubt) what happens if they have more than 3 kids -- which seems to be the plan (even though they say they are leaving it in God's hands). Too bad they won't have built-in babysitters.

I hope at least one more Duggar escapes to the big city (DC or some other metropolis) and puts their foot down when they are instructed to return to the compound. Several of the Duggar "kids" still at home are actually legal adults.Shh! Don't tell Jim Bob & Michelle that!

Pam said...

Yes, Michelle had a dead pan look in the SUV when Anna was in labor. That or she was heavily sedated, it's just bizarre. There was ZERO emotion.

Coleen said...

Michelle looked really good and younger with the new hairstyle! I wonder why Anna decided to birth at a center vs her home? I wonder if the Dept of Health said something since the prev births were without certified midwives.

zebracrossing said...

I wonder where Josiah and Joseph are? They aren't in the picture on the Washington Post site.

Just Me said...

zebracrossing said...
I wonder where Josiah and Joseph are? They aren't in the picture on the Washington Post site.

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I also do not see Jana, Jill, or Jinger in the picture.

Dawn Oand said...

A birth on the toilet and one in the tub. Next one should be in the shower or the sink.

Not a Fan said...

Being that this was Anna's third birth she should have been well on her way to the birthing house "center" by the time contractions were 2 minutes apart. She would have known what was happening. Yes I know all births/pregnancies are different but one would know after two that something was up. I'm not that surprised though, these are not people known to use their brains about much. An hour drive for me would say go as soon as contractions start and get a room close by if they tell you it's too soon. Being a birthing center I think they would have let her stay though, I don't know, I'm speculating. I have twins they are my only children. I had no idea at 9 weeks early what was happening. Because the hospital in my town had no NICU we were instructed to go to the one 20 or so minutes away. By this time my contractions were very close within a minute of each other. Again I say, I was still under the impression that nothing was happening, major denial on my part. My babies were not done cooking and I was scared. If I had to do it again I would have left right away. But that is with the understanding and knowledge of what happened. If Anna was a first time mom, I'd cut her some slack. As a third timer, even josh should have had her in the car already. JMO.

Jac&Jil said...

Didn't get to see the episode until last night, so here it goes.

Good for Anna if she wants to have a water birth, but couldn't she have worn something more appropriate than that dress in the birthing pool? The dress looked like it was so heavy when wet, and there was so much dress there. It had to be distracting.

Jill looked completely clueless when the midwife was showing her about taking blood pressure. Yep, that's some education she is getting to become a midwife - not!

Michelle's look while riding in the car looked more to me like she was wishing it was her who was having the baby and not Anna. The attention is no longer on her when she's not pregnant. I'm sure she's hoping that she can at least pop one more out.

Good for Josh and Anna moving to DC. It will force both of them to grow up. It sure will be interesting to see how Josh fares against his Harvard, Princeton and Yale educated contemporaries in DC. I'm thinking it won't take him long to realize he is out of his league.

Michigander1969 said...

I wonder if it was all played up because as soon as she walked in the birthing center she seemed totally different. M aybe it was out of relief, though. Especially since she was only at 4 cm, i think TLC wanted it to look like it was more exciting than it was. Just my thought anyway!

An hour drive isn't something I woudl worry about but i drove almost 2 hours a way for #5 and #6 to have VBACs since my area hospitals only do the under strict circumstances that usually never pan out.

With #6 I made it with 25 minutes to spare. Lol. Not a drive there, though!

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Being that this was Anna's third birth she should have been well on her way to the birthing house "center" by the time contractions were 2 minutes apart. She would have known what was happening. Yes I know all births/pregnancies are different but one would know after two that something was up. I'm not that surprised though, these are not people known to use their brains about much. An hour drive for me would say go as soon as contractions start and get a room close by if they tell you it's too soon.

Judy said...

I think the rush to the hospital was made to look more dramatic, too. They seemed to get there around maybe 8 in the morning, the baby was delivered around 1, I think. Thankfully for Anna, her labor wasn't nearly as long as last time.

Wampascat said...

Anna probably couldn't get Josh out of bed to take her to the birthing center. Duggar time!
Wonder how Duggar time will work out for him in DC?

Ashley said...

I hope they aren't seriously considering buying in DC. That's a HUGE lifestyle/culture shock from where they are now, not to mention he has no idea how he'll fit in at the job. I think it's always a good idea to live somewhere a few months before you buy. This isn't like buying in the country in Arkansas. If they try to get a "deal" on a house, they could very well end up in an undesirable neighborhood.

Allison said...

I doubt Josh and Anna are buying a house right now. I don't think they would have had time to go through the long process. They are likely renting right now until they have a better idea of where to settle.

sandi said...

It's hard to judge Anna's labor b/c we don't know when and how far apart her contractions started.And they can pick up speed very quickly.I know with my second,my very first contractions were already only 5 mins. apart.
It's also not unusual for labor to stall a bit once reaching the hospital/birth center.I/m guessing this is due to being more relaxed once getting there.So the fact Anna seemed fine didn't mean she wasn't still in active labor.jmo.

Rudy Tecat said...

Don't "Executive Directors" make the big bucks? I hope the contributors to the FRC know that their money is going to prop up Joshie in his new job and pay for a place for his growing family.

Eula said...

About Michelle's look in the van and at the midwife's place--I think either she's had some plastic surgery, or she's lost weight and it's showing up in her face. I think the stern look in the car was her "I'm oh-so- concerned" look for the benefit of the cameras.

Pumpkin said...

I agree that Michelle has just lost a lot of weight and it's showing in her face. This is the longest she has gone without getting pregnant again so it makes sense.

Allison said...

I've seen a couple close-up shots of Michelle and she still has plenty of wrinkles around her eyes. She doesn't look that much different. But the lack of pouffy bangs, straighter and lighter hair is definitely making for a change. I like it, I hope she keeps it.

Leah said...

Michelle is constantly talking about being "an encouragement" to others, yet when her own daughter in law is in labor with her grandson in the back seat, she can't so much as turn around to give her reassurance or even check on her. That was so bizarre. I think it's a combination of being extremely jealous and being annoyed at how much Anna carries on during labor. I recall Michelle always being extremely calm during labor saying things like "oh that contraction was uncomfortable"

sandi said...

Michelle did have a stern look on the way to the birth center,but I suspect it was due to Josh's 'fancy driving' and I'm thinking she and Josh had a few words about it.Of course I could be wrong, but that is just my take on it.(It would be nice if they would show some of the unedited parts someday!).I'm not thinking they will sell the Duggars out just yet,though.
I also think Josh not replying to Anna when she said "I love you" may have been from being distracted over he and Michelle having a few quips over his driving.Jmo.

Patty said...

About the way Michele looked in the car on the way to the birthing center ... my take is that she was very tense and worried that Anna was in so much pain and could give birth in the car.

I like Michele's new look; it is much more modern and she has really slimmed down.

Like most of you, I felt for Anna in the tub, first when she wanted them to drain the water, then when she prayed aloud to not let her baby boy die.

February said...

I didn't feel bad for Anna in the tub at all. She had months to prepare for this birth, and she should have educated herself on what to expect with a water birth. The whole episode was absurd and I fast forwarded most of it.

sandi said...

It's really not uncommon to think irrationally during labor;it's from all the stress,pain,etc.It's hard to think straight.(I recall being upset that I hadn't had my prenatal vitamin bf my son was born and he would be missing out!)The brain just can't rationalize sometimes.So Anna may very well have be educated about water births,but the effects of labor kicked in and caused her to think otherwise.I think she was just exhibiting that effect.That's what I got from it.JMO.

Special Ed Lady said...

Does she have a choice in this matter. Can she choose to have her baby in privacy without all the cameras around?

ES lady said...

Sure she could have her baby in private. But there is no money in that. And she would not be special, just a regular woman who had a baby.

pumpkin said...

I got very irritated every time Anna said "I'm just not sure what to expect" when discussing her upcoming birth. C'mon. It's your third kid! I knew what to expect with my first because I read books and talked to other moms and listened to my midwife (yes, I used a midwife; I gave birth in a hospital with my midwife) and I took a tour of the hospital before giving birth.

Although Anna seems like a sweet young woman, more and more she's coming across as a little dumb. It could be that three kids under four years old are wearing her down - she can't get much sleep and she sure as heck doesn't have time to read any books (other than the bible).

Stephanie said...

I totally agree that during labor you think weird things. I wasn't drugged up but when my daughter was born I said to the doctor "did you drop her?" (Because it felt that way) and the doc said "I haven't dropped one yet"

puddin said...

Michelle D. Wants to be the ONLY duggar woman to be giving birth thats sooo giving of her. Your almost 50 be happy with your kids and Grandkids. Grandkids ROCK!!! ROCK YOUR GRANDKIDS MICHELLE and get that poooor me mad face off. Grow Up.

Londonbridges said...

I agree that Michelle desperately wants to get pregnant again. It must be very painful for her to watch Anna give birth again. However I agree with the comments about enjoying grand babies. They are the best. You get to spoil them and then send them home! JimBob and Michelle have been so blessed with three beautiful healthy grandchildren. Why can't that be enough? MHO of course.

Special Ed Lady said...

Michelle has 19 healthy sons and daughters. She should thank God for them everyday. There are couples that pray daily just for one baby. There are families out there that have special needs kids, with serious health peoblems. For Michelle, to be disgruntled because she might not have another child is ammost sinful.

zebracrossing said...

I think it has gone beyond, "Trusting God for how many children we will have" to "We need to have LOTS and LOTs of children...the more the better" This totally goes against what they started out saying. I can admire someone for putting that part of their lives in the His hands...but to TRY and have lots of kids...on purpose...that isn't healthy in so many ways....It is almost like a hoarder mentality. I hope Michelle can be happy with her beautiful, healthy 19 children and daughter-in-law and enjoy her 3 beautiful, healthy grand children. Michelle....get ready for this next phase of life. It may be hard...but you can trust God for it! I promise.

P.S. You CAN have more children....those older daughters/sons will get married (hopefully) and provide another sondaughter into the fold...think about that!

Londonbridges said...

Yes, Michelle, if your adult daughters were allowed to date young men of their choice, settle down, etc. they just might have more grand babies! I enjoy a healthy relationship with my adult daughters, andTHEIR babies are such a delight. jMHO. Be thankful for all your blessings.

Alberta Rose said...

Anonymous Londonbridges said...
Yes, Michelle, if your adult daughters were allowed to date young men of their choice, settle down, etc. they just might have more grand babies! I enjoy a healthy relationship with my adult daughters, andTHEIR babies are such a delight. jMHO. Be thankful for all your blessings

Since the 70's women who are 20 something are not obligated to date and have babies to make their mother a grandmother. They can choose to devote themselves to developing a career or pursuing other interests. I am praising Michelle and Jim Bob for allowing their daughters the freedom to become educated and work rather than manipulating them into getting married and having babies.

Elvira said...

I would praise Michelle and Jim Bob if they truly were allowing their daughters to become educated. They, however are NOT doing that and it's one of my biggest complaints about them. Allowing Jill who wanted to become a nurse to do some third rate midwife correspondence program and none of the others to take any visible classes at all is not allowing their daughters to become educated.

sandi said...

Of course no one is obligated to date,but I think the point is that the Duggar women are not ALLOWED to date,much less men of their chosing.If they were,perhaps they would have families of their own by now.I think this is what the poster meant.
Poor Jana just looks bored out of her mind tagging along with Jill,but I commend Jill for doing what little she is allowed to do via the very limited education options available to her.I think they could both do much more.

Anonymous said...

No Alberta Rose, they just manipulate them into staying home and raising their siblings. Jimbob and Michelle don't allow any of their kids freedom, that's the whole point. Discouraging them from ever pursuing their real interests just to keep them sheltered and at home is not "letting them choose" anything!

Jane

flowerchild said...

I think it appears that the Duggars seem to be holding their breath until the show ends. Perhaps the adult kids will go their own way then. Maybe tcl. Wants all duggars present. I'm curious to see what their lives will be like after the show is over.

Londonbridges said...

My intent was to say that the Duggar adult blessings SHOULD be allowed to date if they so choose. We know that JimBob needs to approve any potential suitor. My opinion is that if parents have reared their children to the best of their abilities, said children should be trusted to make right decisions. Do JimBob and Michelle trust their blessings to make proper decisions? JMHO.

Sharla said...

Alberta Rose, once again most of your comments are rejected. The reason is the blog is about the Duggars and comments should reflect that. Comments that mainly relate to what you, your relatives, friends (real or imaginary)do are not relevant. We all know that there are other fundamentalists out there so their existence is not justification for the Duggar behavior. To say it's OK because "Henrietta" down the street does it is meaningless. It may well be just as harmful to her children also.

Further your question about the program Jill is using was answered under Parentables in relation to Jill discussing what she is doing.

Beth Anne said...

Re: "Since the 70's women who are 20 something are not obligated to date and have babies to make their mother a grandmother."

I don't think this was the point that Londonbridges was trying to make at all. The poster wasn't saying Jana, Jill, Jenna, etc. MUST get married RIGHT NOW in order to make Michelle a grandmother again. The point was that Michelle and JimBob still talk of 'making baby #20' with all the risks inherent in a pregnancy at their ages, and some people feel they should, instead, more readily embrace their role as grandparents. The other point is that, if they did not set up such strict parameters about opposite sex interactions, one of the older daughters may have already fallen in love or found someone special to spend time with, based on choosing for herself rather than waiting for her dad to screen potential suitors and decide who is worthy. One of these relationships might then take its natural course leading to marriage and babies...but I don't think ANYONE on this blog would ever advocate for the adult Duggar offspring to marry right away and make babies if they are being pushed into the marriage by outside forces.

mimi said...

It's weird...I remember during the first specials and first couple of seasons, Josh talked about his parents raising him to choose his path. Like, his parents instilled certain values, but they'd let him choose whether he wanted a big family, whether he believed in birth control, etc.

That conversation has basically disappeared. It's not just "a husband my dad approves of" but "penis carriers can't even talk to the girls without going through Jim Bob first". Josh and Anna were actively being discouraged from branching out on their own. Jill has long expressed interest in doing things (nursing school, first responder stuff, etc), but has ended up in a...less than prestigious midwifery program (with Jana along for chaperoning).

And things like the courtship couples "needing" a chaperone (not this episode, I know)....if both parties agree that they want to save sex (and their first kiss!) for marriage, why do they need "help" ensuring this outcome? Is one party not on board, and can't be trusted?

I used to have a lot more respect for this family. I didn't always agree with their values, but I believed they meant well and stuck to them. I think their isolation from the rest of the world--a world that they now only seem to contact via TV--has really damaged them.