Free Discussion June 2013

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59 comments:

Ty's Mom said...

Josh FINALLY posted something on his twitter and instagram. First off, he sold his car lot and it is now called Dobbs Automotive (or something). But what I think is funny is he took a picture of the door and the new owner changed the car lot hours to actual business hours (8-6) instead of his horrible 10-4. No wonder they never did any business.

Also, he took a pic of the crew setting up cameras in the kitchen. So I'm thinking Anna definitely had the baby and they are back home now.

MandySue said...

I'm calling BS on the job in DC. There is nothing on line or on the FRC website. Surely someone there has half a brain and realizes that SODRT and Gothard just won't make in in DC.

IMO Josh and Anna are getting ready for the Duggars 2.0.

Dawn Oand said...

I'm a northwest Arkansas local and I drove by the car lot. It is now named DMC (Dobbs Motor Company) and I couldn't see any exterior evidence that the Duggars are still involved. Perhaps JimBob still owns the property and is now leasing it to another business ownwer.

mom in texas said...

So if Josh sold the car lot, what will he do now??? Is there any truth in the D.C. job? Maybe he will become a stay at home dad for the 3 kids while Anna goes to work. Okay, wishful thinking. Seriously though I wish Anna the best because seeing her with the other "little ones" gives me an idea of her level of patience. Hopefully the sister in laws and moother in law will come to help her out. Anna will have her hands full.

Nancy said...

I think that new owner may well be RD; Dobbs is the name of his "employer" on Facebook. Well, that mystery's solved. Josh probably wanted to keep some cars in his name, but after the transfer of the business name, wouldn't all inventory be RD's (or this Dobbs chap)? If this is the case and Josh has taken all he can take from the lot, why is he pimping it like he still runs the place?

Nothing changes for JB except whose bank account the rent check comes from.

Frankly, selling the lot might prove to be a very bad move when (not if) he comes sniveling back to NWA with his tail between his legs...by Christmas.

Nancy said...

Someone said they saw a comment confirming M3 on FB, so I checked Josh's first. Nothing there (it was probably on a friend's board.

Also wanted to note that Josh now "Likes" something called "FRC Action" on his FB page. I guess the FRC rumor can be moved over to the "offiical" column; all FRC has said in the past was that he had interviewed (in March), but hadn't made a decision retarding hiring at that time.

hello said...

Do you really think Michelle will step in and help Anna with the kids? She doesn't even raise her own kids. The Duggar girls are too busy raising their siblings and doing housework to help Anna out.
I don't think Josh would even consider staying home with the kids while Anna goes out and gets a job. I am thinking that Josh made some kind of deal with TLC to film them in Washington DC and collect a paycheck. With his education, or lack of, he is not qualified for any job that would pay him enough to live there and support his family.

Marites H. said...

There's no way Josh would do "Mr. Mom" and let Anna go out into the world as a career woman, even if she were capable of doing it. He has been trained that women should only be barefoot, pregnant (as many times as possible) and in the kitchen, fixing his meals. We've even heard him refer to spending time alone with his kids as "babysitting" while Anna is busy.

I don't see Michelle as a doting grandma who would step in and help like I'm sure Anna's mom would love to do if they lived closer.

This idea of Josh & Anna going off to DC is a disaster waiting to happen and will prove to the other Duggar adult-kids that there's a big, bad, scary world outside the confines of the Duggarville compound. It's like passing by the scene of a horrible multiple-car accident with fatalities. You don't want to stop and look, but you can't help yourself.

MandySue said...

Not to argue but..

Just because Josh likes the FRC doesn't necessarily mean he works there. I like a lot of pages on Facebook.

The FRC would have made an official announcement and Josh likes publicity too much not to say something. This is the same reason there is no M3 yet. Somehow the Duggars births make the local news here in NW Arkansas.

Nancy said...

The thing about Josh "liking" the FRC thing is that it's the arm of the group for which he'll be working; it's the timing of the "like" that I find interesting. It indicates they seem to be trying to keep events under wraps for their dingbat fans who still think the show is taped in real time.

*head desk*

sandi said...

Since the lot has been sold,and Josh is having to get a (real)job,couldn't that mean the show is ending? Unless they're going to film in DC,and I can't see that happening with the place he's working for.And Josh and Anna just aren't that interesting.
If so, then it proves the carlot was just a front for the show anyway,and they're real income came from tlc (no surprise there).That none of the Duggars themselves,including the younger young men,wanted to take it over probably means it wasn't that income-worthy anyway,at least not at the hours it was open.Seems Jim Bob is only interested in collecting the rent check now.JMO.

Rudy Tecat said...

If the show's over, they'll probably do a couple specials in another year or so just to keep us up to date with the kids and what they're up to...like going to the dentist or going to Silver Dollar City, or looking uncomfortable in public. And, of course, if there's a Duggar wedding in the future, I'm sure there'll be a very special special. I have a feeling, though, there will be a very special special showing the Duggars going over to Tennessee for a big Bates weddding before there's a Duggar wedding.

Judy said...

I don't think Josh "has" to get a job. I think he'd like to get into politics and sees this as a good way.

Leah said...

This is off topic but I was just watching the marriage episode. I couldn't believe the amount of sexual references Jim Bob alluded to in this episode. It's pathetic. I've noticed that he has really picked up on the sexual references lately, and I think it's because he can't "prove" their sex life with Michelle being pregnant these days. It's like the world MUST know that they are still having sex. It is an insecurity complex like I've never seen. I really think Jim Bob loves the idea of having a pregnant wife, like it proves his manhood or something.

Ty's Mom said...

So yesterday I drove by the car lot and to my surprise the new owner completely changed the inventory. It actually had decent cars (Acura, Honda and Ford) and for the most part they were newer models. Not the hoopties that Josh would buy. He has no business sense. That poor family is not going to make it in DC. Bless their hearts.

Allison said...

Baby Marcus was born on June 2 (so way to go people saying he was already born), but they didn't announce until today, his due date.

http://www.tlc.com/tv-shows/19-kids-and-counting/marcus-duggar-baby-announcement.htm

He was born well in advance of his grandparents' speaking engagement, so they really lucked out. But it would have been awful if he was late! Maybe they would have canceled? Who knows??

zebracrossing said...

Saw this on Anna's instagram...
"""She had Marcus Anthony on Sunday June 2! Congrats Josh & Anna and the whole Duggar family!"""

zebracrossings said...

Josh posts baby picture....cute little guy! Congratulations to Anna and Josh


http://web.stagram.com/p/473155088659604216_5173671

hannah said...

I wonder of Josh will say the bank wanted them out again and he sold it to a friend. Or, he was doing a good deed by doing this I guess he ran it so far into the ground, it wasn`t worth saving. I wonder if offer was made. or if though an interview meant the job,

Not a Fan said...

I just saw some pictures of Michelle where it seems her hair is a bit more relaxed. Her bangs are definitely not curled forward. Here is where I saw these: http://duggars.tumblr.com/
Some times I don't understand myself. Then I realize that they are a train wreck to me. I have to watch, I can't look away. I'm not a fan of them. I don't agree with their lifestyle. I don't agree that it is okay to keep your children from exploring a world outside of the family. I don't believe that do such things makes for a well adjusted, intelligent, socially ready adult. I am a fan however of this site and the gossip that follows. It's terrible of me I know, but it is the truth.

February said...

The Duggars talk alot about being encouraging to others. Could someone please explain to me what they think they are encouraging me to do? I guess I don't understand because they talked about their volunteer work at the coffee shop as being encouraging...are they assuming that others from different faiths do not volunteer and need to be encouraged to do so or that viewers should take note that they are doing something in their community thus justifying the wages they are making to exploit their family?

Allison said...

From a new Duggar fan blog, there is a photo of Jill (though it's wrongly labeled Jana) with a friend (?) doing what appears to be blood typing in school. I know this because I'm also studying Anatomy & Physiology and we're doing this exact blood typing lab experiment. So perhaps she really is in some kind of accredited school!

http://duggars.tumblr.com/image/51828426907

zebracrossing said...

I really like Michelle's hair in the latest few pictures of I've seen of her...is she growing her bangs out? Hope so....it looks so much more updated and she looks younger!

Judy said...

In the pictures of Michelle holding the baby, she definitely looks much thinner.

Nancy said...

Michelle really does look slimmer. Wonders what going almost 4 years without a full-term pregnancy (and the ability to work out for hours a day while your older daughters raise/educate your younger kids). I think Michelle needs a slight bang sweep (?); she has a very high forehead that needs a bit of *something*. But the hair looks MUCH better shorter and possibly perm-less.

Ashley said...

Is it just me, or is Anna's Instagram profile gone? http://web.stagram.com/n/mackynziesmom/

Special Ed Lady said...

Anna changed it. It is under Anna Dugger, now. It must have been recent becuse she say she has 3 ids.

Andrea said...

Anna's Instagram is definitely gone. It's interesting ... The last thing she posted was a photo collage with Johannah and a Mr Potato head. Wonder if she got in trouble?

Ashley said...

Special Ed Lady is right, she just changed her name. http://web.stagram.com/n/annaduggar/

Ty's Mom said...

Anna's Instagram is still there but her twitter is gone... Hmm...

Special Ed Lady said...

With three children under four she probably does not have time or energy to tweet.

Andrea said...

Just saw the Today Show with the Duggars. Michelle didn't just change her hair, she's had some work done. I think some fillers and maybe a little Botox. She looks rested and younger which is a sure sign of work. Anyone else agree?

sandi said...

I agree Andrea.I think her hairstyle changed (we know she didn't like the straight look!) at the same time the work was done in order to have everyone think her younger appearance is due to just that.But I think she has had at least some kind of touch-ups done.She may have had a chemical peel or something as well.JMO.

Not a Fan said...

I just looked at David and Priscilla's site. One picture from their post about their time with the Lim Family made me laugh. The picture is of David holding Paul while kissing Priscilla (their kissing still looks unnatural to me). The Quote reads,"Priscilla and David are more in love today than when they were married nearly a year and a half ago." First off, he writes this blog, right? So why the third person? Secondly, "nearly a year and a half ago", we are not talking decades of being married. They have not gone through enough together to do anything but strengthen their bond. These people annoy me.

Anonymous said...

Oh, my cod...

The Duggars are now flogging for a prolife abomination, err organization with a load of hinkey televangelists and other psychos. (http://www.lifeunited.org/ - see the partners listing))

Nothing like spreading misinformation...

Nancy said...

Dear baby Jeebus, FRC is official. Here's Josh's announcement, posted earlier tonight.

http://web.stagram.com/n/joshduggar/

If you're too lazy to look, go to tonyperkins.com Monday at 5pm Eastern for a "special announcement."

Isn't the decision on DOMA due to come down the pike soon? This could get interesting if the Surpremes agree with the CA court's decision. This stuff is exactly the kind of thing FRC works to wipe off the face of the planet.

Willow said...

O.k., I give up. What does DOMA mean? Please. What CA court decision?

Allison said...

I don't think Michelle had any work done. Some of the TLC pics show plenty of wrinkles around the eyes. But she colored her hair and is growing out her bangs, so that probably accounts for a lot.

Just Me said...

From the Family Research Center site

"Today 5 p.m. ET: Josh Duggar to Unveil Details of Family's Move to Washington D.C."

They also congratualted Josh and Anna on the birth of Marcus


http://www.frc.org/newsroom/today-5-pm-et-josh-duggar-to-unveil-details-of-familys-move-to-washington-dc

Nancy said...

Josh just confirmed on the radio show that he will indeed be the Exec. Director of FRC Action, a wing of Tony Perkins' hate group. He starts next Monday.

Good luck with those 12 hour days, Josh! Perkins says he'll be organizing campaigns and that with all his "logistical experience" being the oldest of 19, he's the perfect person for the job. He also mentioned that Josh will be "on the ground," so he's going to have to move it or lose it, from the sound of it.

As a reminder, Josh officially "liked" FRC Action on Twtitter and FB on 6/4. I had to defend why he "liked" it by reminding the poster that was the organization he was going to be working for and that it wasn't just some random organization he admired. Turns out I was right on the nose.

Just Me said...

Josh's new job has offically be announced

" New Exceutive Director FRC action"

and it appears you can sign up to follow Josh's work and other special developments at FRC action

http://www.frcaction.org/josh

Nancy said...

For the poster who asked, DOMA = Defense of Marriage Act, which is being challenged. Prop 8 = challenge to a lower curcuit court's ruling that CA's Prop 8, which struck down same-sex marriage, but overturned by the curcuit court as unconstitutional, be uphheld by the Supreme Court.

If DOMA is overturned, gay marriage would be legal nationwide. If it is upheld and Prop 8 also upheld, gay marriage will be unchanged except for CA, where it would be deemed legal.

So, for Joshie and the FRC, these rulings, and how they react to them, are a huge deal.

Anonymous said...

How much do you think Josh is making at his new job?

Stephanie said...

Michelle DOES look younger. Better Make up? I always thought the cheap discount make up set in her wrinkles. Especially in the car taking Anna to the midwife the camera was very flattering and she looked younger. I think she is really taking car of herself and it is showing in her face. If she wanted plastic surgery, would she agree to it? She was scared lf the new hairdo.

Anna seemed aggitated when she was wanting to leave and said "call your mom and see where she is" 1. What was taking Michelle so long to get ready when it was 6 am and we know the Duggars don't get up until 9 am, so she didn't have the kid excuse. 2. Anna was the priority and anything she needed to do should have been dropped to get to Annas house. 3. When Josh and Anna were catching the plane the were running late.

Jill and Jana are on the road overnight so I guess that's why they have the buddy system. Mrs Query got to Anna.
It will be a big change for Josh to have a realy job. Gothard encourages the self-employment so you don't have an earthly boss. Anyone think maybe Jimbob might have wanted this job or a job like this at some point in life and maybe he is a little jealous? He didn't seem happy about it. I guess the Santorum campaigning worked.

Must have gotten a reference from someone on the Santorum campaign team.

Pam said...

I also wonder how much Josh will be making in this job. The cost of living is quite high in DC so they probably will be paying him well. I also wonder if there is a spin off in the works for them. I find it hard to believe they can make it there financially without some serious TLC cash.

I feel a bit sorry for Anna, learing to drive in all that traffic and navigate a new city is going to be hard for her, especially with 3 very young kids in tow. A far cry from driving in Arkansas.

Rudy Tecat said...

Quite the revealing photo of Cousin Amy on Instagram this today, to go along with the other bikini shots of her so far this week. It is funny how her followers (who all seem to admire her and her cousins for their Godliness) are defending her.

Kelly said...

I assume Josh follows her. Nike!

wondering what's up said...

Josh and Anna's website is down. What does that mean?

I do have some hope that Josh and Anna are getting tired of the limelight, and are actually wanting to set out on their own and make a life for themselves and their family. Who knows?

Allison said...

Josh may want to make a life for himself, but it's certainly NOT out of the limelight!

Trixie said...

"If DOMA is overturned, gay marriage would be legal nationwide."

Not true - it would simply extend the same Federal spousal protections that straight married couples enjoy to legally married gay couples - such as, inheritance, Social Security benefits, Federal pension benefits, etc. States will still dictate marriage in their own jurisdictions.

Go to Scotusblog for more info.

Nancy said...

My bad on DOMA. I guess this means that it only applies in states where domestic partnerships and/or gay marriage is legal.

Decision could come in Monday (still Sunday as I type) or, at the latest, Thursday, as SCOTUS takes its summer break at the end of June. Either way, Josh will be busy working the spin during his first week on the job.

Hit the pavement running, kiddo. Earn those Executive bucks. Good luck with those long hours, especially if DOMA is overturned, or Prop 8's lower court decision upheld. Either one will make the FRC's collective head assplode.

Anonymous said...

Josh goes to Washington! Hilarity ensues! I am fervently hoping some tough, Harvard-educated female lawyer scares the bejeebers out of him in his new job as mascot for the FRC and sends him whimpering back to Arkansas.
Either that, or he discovers that he likes the world outside the family compound, renounces Gothardism, sends his kids to public school, encourages his wife to think for herself and wear modern clothes and in general, become a normal human being.

Allison said...

I highly doubt Josh will become "worldly" from working at FRC. If anything, it will reinforce what he has been raised to believe. 1) They *picked him* after apparently knowing him for many years and 2) they believe exactly like him. It's not like got some kind of secular political job. The organization is exactly what Gothardism teaches so it's HIGHLY unlikely that living in DC will change their thinking anymore than all the months they spend on the road interacting with folks who aren't Gothard (media, public, etc.)

I'm sure the folks at FRC will protect Josh and feed him all the lines he needs, and remember, these people are taught to dismiss any logic from a Harvard based female lawyer on the basis that they're worldly. I really don't think he'd pay much attention to anyone who argues with them.

It's like us listening to them, you just ignore what you already know you don't believe.

Nancy said...

Reading elsewhere, I googled Tony Perkins/David Duke and came up with some very scary connections from when Perkins was making his run for the Senate from LA (Duke's homestate).

Granted, associations go back to '96 up to last year, but it appears Perkins is against "mixing of the races" as well as "licentious behavior" (those were direct quotes from the article I read); FRC is just going after the gays now since their issues are front and center.

Not very Christian of an organization, IMO. If anything, working under Perkins will make Josh even worse as he lobbies and prepares grassroots campaigns to combat his perceived "evils."

Wanna bet TLC won't air a second of it?

Special Ed Lady said...

I wonder if some of that is the reason JimBob did not seem to happy about them going to D.C. I am thinking it would be because it would not be good for the show. JimBob may, also, realize that Josh just might be out of his league.

sandi said...

I also think TLC didn't like the connection to FRC and I would venture to say,they advised Jim Bob and Michelle to not appear publicly happy about it.(I don't beleive that is the way they really feel though).
I also suspect that's why they had a gay person from the morning show come over and 'socialize' a bit with the Duggars when Marcus was born.Strategy.jmo.

sandi said...

Yes,I also read some pretty awful things about FRC,and I have zero respect for an organization (no matter what their cause) that takes someone totally unqualified,and places him in an Executive position,when everyone else has to work their way up.
This is about FRC's exposure and using Josh to bring in more money from the Duggar like-minded followers.(JMO).
It reminds me of an episode of Cheeers from the 80's,when Sam the bartender was given an executive position just because he was a former pro-basenall player and they wanted him on the team. He was a 'ringer'. jmo.

hannah said...

Okay, if Josh couldn`t post pictures about Anna being pregnant for 6/7 months( a gag order must of been in place) Why can be about his job.

Nancy said...

Hannah, I'd say that's pretty clear evidence that the FRC will not be a part of the show. Josh will be airily be identified as a "consultant" working in DC. The ignorant, whether innocent or willful, will continue to support the family.

This is getting eerily similar to the Paula Deen situation. Josh has had his share of self-publicized slip-ups; it's only a matter of time before he is hoisted on his own petard.