Josh Takes Job with FRC Hate Group

What do you think of uneducated Josh getting offered the position over actually qualified candidates.  Will he lead any siblings out of the control of Jim Bob?  How long will he last in DC?  Will there be any outcry or impact on the Duggar brand?

61 comments:

Nancy said...

I read a bunch of bios of people who will be his co-workers (possibly underlings). All have undergrad - minimum - and a lot of experience.

He's going to have to go long before Congress reconvenes in the Fall for some extensive training.

Yes, this means WORK. Actually getting up before noon, and working a schedule that he can't just up and head to Burger King when he feels like it.

I give him until Winter Recess before he's officially burnt out. That should give TLC a season of material for what appears to be their spinoff, commencing with the VSE birth episode.

Speaking of, Anna went about 2 weeks early with both Mack and Mike. She's just about two weeks out right now, so she could "blow" at any time.

Nancy said...

Just OVER two weeks. Duh. 10 + 7 = 17, moron (it's still the 21st in AR as I type).

Anonymous said...

It is a publicity stunt. Josh won't stay more than 6 months. He will return to AR with the reason that he misses being with family and wants his kids to grow up surrounded by a big family like he did. Besides, his main source of income is still the show. He wouldn't give that up if he had the choice.

Hannah said...

I do wonder if others didn`t take the job. I mean,someone who is smart, knows that working for a "hate" group. Is not good to take or will look good if you ever look for a new job.

I think Josh fits right in he seems to agree with the views they have.

taurus0385 said...

I think joy will ask to stay with josh and Anna alot. Her and Anna are pretty close. Also jinger wanted to move to a city so maybe now heres her chance.

Anonymous said...

I have a feeling true colors are coming out. My hope is that advertisers will pull out next season due to to the extremely controversial nature of the organization that Josh now works for. Surely TLC will not give them free publicity.

Wampascat said...

Perhaps a ban is in order for all advertised companies supporting the show. Time to say goodbye, Duggars... I won't pay a dime to support your crazy, hateful agenda. How can we get a list of sponsors?

MCL said...

FRC just wants the publicity of hiring a Duggar. How else would Josh get this job without a college degree? He won't last long because he is lazy.

ES Lady said...

So is TLC going to DC with Josh and Anna?

Anonymous said...

I jumped for joy when he said he was moving, it was like watching the trap door open on a condemned man

Allison said...

I would be surprised if they ever mention the organization. Have you noticed they only said "take a job in DC." They never mentioned who it was for or what he would be doing. I don't think it will be an issue for the show.

This is the organization that has put on the Vision Forum which Jim Bob and Michelle have spoken at. I think they have actually probably had the chance to get to know Josh pretty well, and he fits perfectly with their beliefs (you can check it out on Wikipedia). I don't know about Josh's work ethic, but it's certainly an organization that a lot of people support (it's an off-shoot of Focus on the Family, FYI).

Beth Anne said...

MCL said...

"FRC just wants the publicity of hiring a Duggar."

I don't know much about this organization, but I'd HAVE to agree with this. If they're a lobbying group, they need intelligent, well-versed individuals who can talk a good game and know how to appeal to the "opposite" side in order to influence others' actions and opinions. Josh has been so sheltered, he will have no idea how to do this, lest spouting talking points that have been handed to him, and he is apt to be completely naive about how things actually "work" in D.C.

I am always reticent to label groups as "hate groups" just because they hold a differing opinion that I do, and as a member of a particular church that holds some conservative views, as well as more moderate/liberal views, I think that label gets tossed around too easily. However, I do hope Josh has researched the FRC thoroughly to ensure he wants to represent them, and is not just being pulled in by his ego, thinking of himself as some conservative superhero!

imaamy said...

I actually thought Josh was angling to get his own show!

Murphy said...

Josh may not have a college education or regular work experience--but he has a lot of experience in the business of this hiring company--HATE. He will fit right in. Don't know what he'll accomplish, but he'll have plenty of fluffy hate ridden BS to peddle on the steps of Washington.

Mindy said...

I say good for him and good luck! I also don't think he's as lazy as portrayed - his commitment to the weight loss showed he has a lot of promise (even more if he's able to keep it off)! Hopefully this "break away" from the Duggar compound will be an inspiration for his siblings. Perhaps due to his age and generation, it seems like he and Anna are somewhat shying away from the hard-core Gothardism that Pricilla/David and even Jim Bob/Michelle peddle. It may be true that Anna simply just wants a large family. As Michelle says in the intro, "it may not always be easy but somehow we make it all work out." :)

Andrea said...

If family research council hired Josh for the publicity they're doing a pretty crap job. If this was for publicity FRC would have issued a press release first thing this morning and it would have gone out on the news wire. I haven't watched the show, but others have mentioned that it's been referred to as: "a job in DC" not a specific job title or name of an organization. I'm actual very curious about what his résumé says about him and his accomplishments. It's got to be pretty slim. Secondly, what could he have to offer and what makes it useful to the FRC? What's his job titling going to be?

Andrea said...

Oh, of course Josh Duggar has a LinkedIn profile:

http://www.linkedin.com/pub/joshua-duggar/12/b05/24a?_mSplash=1

It's ver slim indeed. It's got to hurt to only have High School Diploma listed under education. Nice photo Joshie .... Grow up and get seem professional photos done or leave it blank moron,

I don't know what it is about Josh in particular and the Duggars in general that bothers me. I guess it's I see all th adult duggar daughters and think about all the wasted potential which gets to me.

mythoughtis said...

I think that this group is well known to Josh. He worked on the Santorum campaign (and yes, I think he did really do stuff). I am not surprised by his choice of organization,given his parents beliefs. However, lets realize that Josh may get some eye opening over the next few months. He may not like the conversations in the work place. I think he is not as narrow minded as his parents when it comes down to it.

Regardless, I don't think it will affect the advertisers . Often I laugh at the birth control and date web site ads that run during the show. Their core viewing audience isn't going to object to the job.

Anything that will give Josh a chance at a real life and some independence is a good thing.... even if ht doesn't work out. decidesrnormmal O

Ashley said...

Regardless of how long they stay or why they took the job, I'm glad they are going. Young adults in a family as tight-knit (read: controlling) as theirs need to branch out to have a chance to make it on their own.

I hope Jinger goes to stay with them to help out--maybe it would give her a chance to see the big cities on her own.

hello said...

I don't understand why a company would hire someone who has a diploma from the SOTDRT. He barely worked at the business that was given to him, as he was much too busy traveling around with the family. Most businesses would require that you show up for work at a certain time. All the Duggars have been trained to follow Duggar time, which means you show up whenever you feel like it. I believe this company hired Josh for PR. Josh will most likely miss having the tv cameras following him and filming him. He seems to thrive on it. I am sure Josh will make sure the birth of his newest child will be filmed.

Allison said...

I'm curious about these other job's listed on Josh's resume. What the heck is Premiere Production and Strategic Political Services?!

and yes, PLEASE change the photo, Josh. He has so many headshots from the show, why on earth would he pick that one??

Shoka's Understudy said...

Same thing with kate Gosselin. Coupon Cabin hired her then later on realized how stupid it really was and to everyone's surprise, sent out a press release explaining in detail why he fired her!

This may happen to Joshie. But I am glad they get to go and Jinger hopefully will find a nice young man, normal school and leave the Gotherd/Duggar compound!

Not a Fan said...

If you google Strategic Political Services, which he claims to be the founder of, you get nothing! It is only once you click some sub site that that you get something even related to Josh Duggar. Not to mention what you get is his person blog/web site and his family's. There is nothing business like nor political about him. Aside from the fact that the LinkedIn pic has Anna in it, he is a baby in it. If he wants to be taken seriously at all, he needs to grow up. It is very irritating to think that this person will be out there trying to put his two cents in where it matters.

sandi said...

>FRC just wants the publicity of hiring a Duggar. How else would Josh get this job without a college degree?
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I would have to agree.It is the Duggar brand and name they are hiring.I was reading and it appears others have gone through internships at this place to get to where they are..and to think they want to hire a homeschooler with no further edcuation for a Sr. Exec. position..really?
I also think of it as a probable publicity stunt,and I'm not so sure that I buy the Jim Bob and Michelle act (JMO) that they don't want him to take the job...recall they have Amy release controversial pics... it could very well be just a PR move to distance themselves from the negative publicity they undoubtedly know it will generate.JMO.

Rudy Tecat said...

Haha...Joshie on LinkedIn has 0 connections! Not even family connections or connections from the guys who work at the car lot!

Anonymous said...

On the one hand I think that the DC area will chew him up and spit him out in terms of him not being able to cut it here. On the other hand I hope that being here and meeting a variety of people in everyday life events will open his eyes to being more accepting of non-likeminded people.

I wonder if no longer living in smalltown Arkansas and being a captive of his parents beliefs and influences will allow him to branch out a bit. I certainly hope so.

The DC area is truly a melting pot...you can't go to the grocery without running into people from other cultures. The Costco here is like visiting the UN. If they get their children involved in activities they'll be exposed to different people even more. I am truly hoping for a new open-mindedness as a result of positive interactions with "different" people. And please, can they please bring Jinger with them? :-)

Slightly Freaked Out... said...

How do we know that he was in fact hired at FRC? Either way, I think it's a good thing that he and Anna are leaving the nest, so to speak. I hope that some of the older girls take the chance to go to DC and see how the real world works and that it's not all evil or something to be frightened of. Hopefully, Jinger finds herself able to breathe and live a life outside the compound!

Judy said...

I was surprised they were going. I don't see them doing well in DC. It is way too savvy, fast paced, and educated for them. I think Anna, especially, will have a very hard time.

Nancy said...

IIRC, the FRC confirmed that they interviewed Josh (and several other candidates), but at that time had not officially made a decision.

I really think TLC and JB had their hands in this as another FU to the naysayers: "See? We CAN send our sons into the evils of the real world....as long as he's employed by like-minded people!"

Too bad these "like minded people" do not operate as Christ would like; rather, they promote and encourage discrimination and inequality; the bulk of their vitriol is aimed at the LGBTQ population. Had Dobson formed this "think tank" in the 50's or 60's, they would have discriminated against African Americans. Definitely qualifies as a "hate" group as far as I'm concerned.

If they do indeed try a spinoff, I'm sure Josh's employer will not be mentioned; although most mainstream Christians condemn gays, there could be enough backblow from gay rights activists to boycott advertisers, much in the manner that "All American Muslim" was canceled.

Just Me said...

"What the heck is Premiere Production and Strategic Political Services?!"

I believe they are "companies" Josh started. Premiere Prodcution isn't that the name given when Josh was making production and wanting to learn production? I remember the studio TLC made in the house for him and the early special that was in part "produced" by him, he was the narrator. It might be the "company" that made the "poitical ad" with the family for Santourm that was making rounds on the net. Did it also do something with web design? Maybe the one that made the Duggar website and the Bates' website that really did not change or work well?

Strategic Political Services. I saw an article recently that said it was a company Josh started and that he did consulting for local political canidates.

I think the comapnies are kind of like when you do a job such as babysitting or lawn mowing but name your company and then say you are the founder, owner, and president. Sound more inpressive then it is.

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I think Anna will do okay in DC as I think she will hang out and learn from the other moms/wives of those that work for the group Josh will work for. They will be with like minded people, right?

Faith said...

I agree with those who have said that TLC will probably not focus on the actual work that Josh would be doing or the company for whom he would be working. TLC generally seems to stay away from anything the Duggars are involved in that might stir up controversy, like IBLP and other Gothard organizations, as well as their recent Life United.

Coleen said...

FRC. I was wondering what the job in DC is. I have to agree with the other comments, I don't see him staying for long, esp if the Duggar show is still on the air.

Melissa said...

Wow, my husband looked up some of the stuff FRC stands for on their website. Some of the articles are pretty out there...That's great that Josh is losing the weight, but I hope if he's able to keep it off that he won't let it go to his head. I could easily see him as being the cheating kind (if he gets attention from another woman). I know that's horrible to say, but I just view him as such a jerk. I still worry that Anna may be abused (either verbally or in other ways).. He just strikes me as the pompous type. Good luck to them in DC and leaving the compound. Kudos to Anna's parents for supporting the decision. Honestly, I think JB and Michelle are more worried about losing free babysitting from Anna, then they are worried that Josh and Anna will have no support or family nearby when they move. I agree with other posts that they may stay there for a few months to get a few episodes on the new season, then decide to move back home. But who knows? I'd love for them to move to Florida closer to Anna's family. I think her mom would actually help them out especially since Anna's mom doesn't have any other little ones milling around.

Ashley said...

I just realized something. Someone said that Josh took the Work = Cars off his instagram a while back, and we figured it was because he doesn't actually seem to do much work at the car lot. I wonder if that's when he got the offer? (Or the interview, I can't remember how long ago it was.)

Anonymous said...

I disagree with Nancy's statement that 'most mainstream Christians condemn gays". There may be some smaller ultra conservative groups that do, but certainly not the majority. I am in a very large mainstream Christian denomination that accepts gays, and ordains gays in committed relationships and my denomination is not alone.

I wish Josh and Anna well in D.C. It will be an eye opening experience that will help them broaden their horizons and hopefully expand their thinking. And I hope Jinger goes for a LONG visit!

Rudy Tecat said...

Well, Joshie and Anna moving to the big city should be good for another two or three episodes -- you know, country couple in the big city, fish out of water. But, let's see what kind of home they can afford in DC, a family of five with the husband working for a non-profit. But, I suppose either the production company or FRC will provide, and right this second the crew is setting up the special lighting in the house.

Beth Anne said...

Re: "I disagree with Nancy's statement that 'most mainstream Christians condemn gays".

I too, disagree with that statement as it seems too broad, and the word "condemn" insinuates actively hostile behavior toward others. Some mainstream Christians have a personal belief, based on their mind, body, soul, faith, etc., that marriage is intended to be between a man and a woman, and some Christians believe otherwise, and ALL are called to be kind and loving to others.

Having said that, I see the point trying to be made that Josh's lobbying position may cross the line into hostile behavior toward others. I guess all lobbying is geared toward arguing for legislative action one way or the other, but if FRC's 'agenda' is lobbying against gay marriage, then they're stepping into personal territory, and the language used and manner in which Josh or others lobby for that agenda might indeed be hateful or hostile. Please, Josh, think about your words and actions and remember to be loving to ALL!!!

Nancy said...

I've heard Methodists, Lutherans, Catholics, Presbyterians, Southern Baptists, et. al. and their church leaders condemn gays. If I have heard this from people who know where I stand on this issue, as well from church leaders on TV, it's pretty certain that most church members will follow their dictates.

Love the sinner, hate the sin was also used to defend the "sin" of being born with more melanin than the group in power.

The defense isn't acceptable; the FRC goes the extra mile in their quest to ensure gays remain disenfranchised in this country. If the Supreme Court finds that Prop 8 is indeed unconstitutional, this will all be moot; Perkins and his cronies (Josh included) will move on to the next target group. Hey, the Muslims are still a pretty easy target. That's what these groups do, ostensibly in the name of Christ.

Anne said...

I also wonder about how they will be able to afford DC with 3 kids. Also, depending on where you live, the commute can be a nightmare!

Anonymous said...

What does VSE stand for (from Nancy's comment)?

Jennifer

Sharla said...

Very Special Episode (usually the hour specials).

Annie said...

My only hope with this job is that Josh learns how to be independent from his parents. Other than that, he may be in for a rude awakening as a "senior executive." If he is going to be lobbying in DC for the FRC, he may be put in situations where others may be more knowledgeable and just better debaters. It may unnerve him quite a bit. In fact, I hope it does and he realizes how much he has to learn.

sandi said...

I never understood why the Duggars didn't engage their kids in the debate field;it looks like they would want them to be well-spoken and able to defend their beliefs (with more than a pre-written answer).I know there are fundy/homeschool groups out there that do so,and it would certainly have been to Josh's advantage right now if they had been trained in it.JMO.

sandi said...

I should have been more specific;I meant to say speech and debate.

Beth Anne said...

Sandi said:
"I never understood why the Duggars didn't engage their kids in the debate field."

That's a great point! Liberty University, which is as fundy as can be, consistently fields a top-rated, championship debate team, though I admit I don't know if they only focus on "religious" topics or if being in national competitions requires them to address and debate a wide range of topics.

Unfortunately, I think the answer to why the Duggars never took this route is captured in your statement of "defend with more than a pre-written answer." The Duggars pretty much take in what ATI instructional materials tell them and spit that back out, without independent analysis, in my opinion. So, they think just spouting off what someone else said (i.e. Gothard) is effective debate. Truth be told, some of the greatest religious figures in history deeply questioned their faith and analyzed every component of their core beliefs...Mother Theresa being a great example. That's part of the maturing process, but unfortunately the Duggars do not seem to feel the need to do this....or maybe they are afraid of getting off the merry-go-round or NOT being lock and step with their 'leader?'

Leigh Ann said...

I read that the Amish don't want their children learning any critical thinking skills because they don't want them questioning what they've been taught. I think Gothardism may have the same line of thinking. I read that Texas doesn't want critical thinking taught in schools because they don't want children to challenge the fixed beliefs taught at home. I think if your beliefs can't hold up to scrutiny they weren't that fixed to begin with.

Ally said...

Yea, but at least Amish teens go on Rumspringa to see the real world and decide for themselves whether they want to stay Amish or go into the real world.

Judy said...

You can tell just from some of the things Jim Bob says that they don't really check facts or consider their own arguments.

pumpkin said...

I wonder if they're going to stick to the "debt free" thing when they're in DC. Houses are A LOT more expensive in DC than they are in Arkansas. What we paid for our downpayment would buy a home in Arkansas (from looking at real estate websites). Unless Josh and Anna have 400-500K (which they may due to the show) they will either have to rent or have a mortgage in order to buy more than 1200 sq ft in a decent neighborhood.

Anna said she hoped they'd be way out in the suburbs so she wouldn't have to deal with so much traffic - but I wonder if they have factored in that Josh will face at least an hour's commute each way. Is he prepared to get up at 5am every day? They sure have a hard time when they need to get up for the Today Show...

Sharla said...

A view on Josh's qualifications:
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/faithgoespop/2013/05/josh-duggars-linkedin-page-shows-exactly-how-qualified-he-is-for-his-job/

Amanda said...

I am curious where they are going to live as well. I live in the DC area and there's simply no way they can have a home like they are currently living in for less than 400K...depending on how far out they want to go. Perhaps Anna will want to join my mom group ;)

Leigh Ann said...

I think they should move so Anna can become herself and not the Michelle clone she's slowly turning into. I think her individuality is being absorbed into the collective.

sandi said...

Leigh Ann,I agree,and I hope that moving helps;I just see Anna as having Michelle as her personal hero,with the many births she's had (even moreso than her own mother) and I think she strives to be just like her.I even think she's forced herself into liking the cameras when she was initially shy,because Michelle enjoys them and the attention as well.JMO.

Leigh Ann said...

Assimilated into the collective. That's the expression. I think it would be nice if Joy Anna could go stay with them for a year or two. She'd be helping out with the kids but she'd be doing that at home, anyway. She can do school online and have some different experiences, explore the Washington, D.C. area a little, spread those wings a tiny bit. I think Joy is really lost in the shuffle and not having a sister close to her age to be buddies with (not parent-buddies, but pals)has her kind of isolated. She'd do good to get out of the mob scene for a little while.

Miz Kizzle said...

Hey, Nancy! My husband belongs to a Presbyterian church and his church supports gay marriage and gay clergy. They're a pretty open-minded and tolerant bunch.
As for Josh Duggar, he is loathsome. He is ignorant, lazy and arrogant. Everything he has got handed to him by his father and he's never worked at a real job in his life. It will be very entertaining to see how he does in Washington. I give him less than a year.

Elvira said...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/18/john-duggar-washington_n_3461228.html

Huffington Post on Josh as executive director for FRC PAC.

Anonymous said...

Do you think if every one lived like the Duggars, there would be no wars, crime, drug use, prostitution, alcoholism, sexual abuse, robbery, murder.....???
Wow sounds like Utopia.
Think I might give it a try :)
Tam_D

Anonymous said...

Well, I am from the DC area. I grew up in Landover, MD (within ear shot of Fed Ex Field). For me it's home, to an outsider it is sketchy at best. I am used to city life, urban life, and all that comes with it. Josh and Anna are going to have to toughen up. I love my city, but my city can be hard on someone who isn't used to a culturally diverse atmosphere or the atmosphere of being able to do what you want and be who you want without judgement. Shell shock comes to mind when I think of their first month as residents in DC. DC will chew you up, spit you out and come back for seconds. You have to go into every situation with a hardened approach-even getting gas can bring out the sailors--nothing is easy in DC and its expensive. Its the city. I hope they are ready for the changes. If they embrace it and learn then they will leave with so much more, because at the end of the day DC is an amazing city. I kind of wish they would move to the burbs' and Josh commute. It would be better for Anna and the kids. Its cheaper, safer and not as much of a shell shock. If Josh really cared about their adjustment he would move them like VA, or a city like Laurel, Upper Marlboro, etc... I agree with the other posters if they don't do their homework and jump head first into a DC home they are going to be in for a rude awakening. But, maybe Anna will hook up with a liberal group of girlfriends while Joshie is working at the FRC. We will just have to see how it all turns out. But, yea Josh is going to have to come a bit harder than that LinkedIn resume. I have NEVER seen a wedding pic as a profile pic on LinkedIn either, weird. Also, not sure if Josh and Anna realize this but Wal-Mart is NOT king in the DC area. Yea, we had Wal-Marts but they weren't the Wal-Marts of the south. Hope Anna like Target.

Anonymous said...

Yeah, Tam D. If you want to know what it would be like to live in a world run by Duggar rules, read The Handmaid's Tale by Margaret Atwood. And Mein Kaumpf by some dude named Hitler.
If you like conformity, intolerance, and blind, dog-like obedience to misogenistic lunatics, then a Duggar World would be right up your alley.

sandi said...

Well newsflash Tam_D,there ARE other cultures who live like the Duggars (keeping women down,big families,covering up with their clothing,no alcohol, etc.) but that certainly doesn't stop them from starting wars.In fact iirc,they are exactly the ones doing it.JMO.

Seriously? said...

Just saw a movie that predicts life in the future with Duggar mentality in charge. I wish "Idiocracy" was required viewing for Duggars and their ilk, but somehow doubt they'd comprehend the humor.