New Season Begins September 2, 2014

New season begins in the fall.  

91 comments:

mythoughtis said...

Having read the linked article, the following beomes apparent to me:

This family thinks that getting married means actually GIVING JILL AWAY, not the symbolic gesture that the rest of us think.

The rest of us have aleady allowed separation of our adult offspring from us into being an independent adult prior to their getting married (unless it is a unexpected teen-age marriage). So our offspring have already moved out (or at least are financially independent at home), are used to spending time away from us and making their own decisions prior to marriage. The only difference becomes dealing with in-laws as in-laws, the husband as a husband rather than just a significant other, dealing with legalities of marriage.

This family doesn't treat the offspring as adult until the wedding ceremony is over. That's why it is such a shock for them.

Anonymous said...

I even doubt that their female offspring are ever treated like adults. The father just "hands over" the care and feeding of his little girl to her lucky husband. This poor guy gets an emotional child for a wife. She may be good at cooking and cleaning, but that simply means she was taught to perform household tasks well, it does not equate to maturity and the life and decisions that being an adult in your own right bring. They are programmed to follow whatever their husbands say they should do. I also don't think that most of these husband/guys are mature either. They haven't been raised to pick up a dish, or make their own beds..they do the manual work that their fathers have chosen for them, usually work that benefits their nuclear family..they also are not prepared to be adults, they only follow their parents' mold exactly and never actually become adults in their own right.

Allison said...

I'm glad to see that Cindy's cancer will be addressed in the show. I know there was some concern about that. I'm curious to see what this whole Ben moving to Tontitown means for how he's going to provide for Jessa. You think he's somehow going to go to work for Jim Bob?

Londonbridges said...

What better way to control a future son-in-law than to have him work for you? I could see JimBob "offering" Ben a job just to keep him under his thumb, ensuring the happy couple would live near the Duggar compound, etc. After all, how will Ben support his wife? She won't work outside the home, as she has limited education, and won't be allowed to have a career. And then, of course, when the babies arrive, she will be busy taking care of them. At least she will mother them until they are weaned, just as Michelle did. JMHO.

Judy said...

It's not really giving them away...Jill probably gets Derrick off to work and then drives over to the Duggars to care for the howlers every day. She just lives somewhere else.

Willow said...

I definitely think Ben is going to somehow work for the Duggar machine, if he isn't already. So sad he has to give up college, etc. to "get" a Duggar. What also bugs me is that he has to "leave" his own family. He is the oldest son and maybe they had dreams and plans of their own for him. But, no, now that he is attached to the Duggars, he apparently Has to go their way. It is yet to be seen about Derick. The fact that the families live so close will mask what is going on there for a little while. Again, his (Derick's) family is small and they probably need him way more than the Duggars do. At least he has his own job, etc. Good for him. I just get the vibe that the Duggars expect their children's spouses to blend with them, whether it is a male or a female. I so hope I am wrong about this, but so far ... not really. Its a control thing, IMO.

Beth Anne said...

Re: You think he's somehow going to go to work for Jim Bob?

YES. JimBob will have his mitts on all his kids and their spouses, at least for now or until someone gets brave and wise enough to realize he/she and his/her own family needs to carve their own path and make their own way.

Anonymous said...

Re: Allisons comment about Cathy's cancer being addressed in the upcoming episode.
In the first paragraph it says : The happy occasion is bittersweet for the family as they realize what giving Jill away will mean to their close knit family.
The second paragraph says; the newly engaged couple tend to Derick's mom, Cathy as she bravely battles cancer.
I think they are just touching on Cathy's cancer because they have to. Sounds like the emphasis will be mostly on the weepy Duggars as they, "lose Jill" & not so much on Dericks' mom.
I know what little has been shown has JB with his hanky out wiping away "tears." They are just going to dwell on their terrible loss of a family member; "Jill," who apparently lives right near them.

Anonymous said...

The only thing Michelle will miss about Jill not living at home is the amount of housework and babysitting she does with her buddy group. Who will pick up the slack? Joy Anna, certainly not Michelle, who is their mother in the first place. I have never seen a wife/mom who has been so pampered and had has her tush wiped by her husband with a mink cloth.

London bridges said...

It makes me see red when they talk of their "loss" of Jill. My mom and only brother died three weeks apart. My family and I experienced a devastating loss. This family is supposed to be encouraging the people who don't hold the same beliefs, as is their ministry mandate. They have not encouraged me in the least. I deeply resent their definition of "loss". JMHO.

Anonymous said...

Ben does not make much of a living repairing windshields. He chased down the Duggar family. I believe he will gladly accept offers from Dim Bulb for employment and perks for marrying into the family.

Anonymous said...

TLC has that promo photo of all of their reality show stars. It would be really interesting if they would mix it up and do a wife swap season with all these families. I'd especially like to see Michelle swap places with Kate Gosselin or Robyn from Sister Wives. Now that would beat trips to dentist, birthday parties, pregnancy announcements, etc.

Alberta Rose said...

TLC has that promo photo of all of their reality show stars. It would be really interesting if they would mix it up and do a wife swap season with all these families. I'd especially like to see Michelle swap places with Kate Gosselin or Robyn from Sister Wives. Now that would beat trips to dentist, birthday parties, pregnancy announcements, etc.

:D Best swap would be a 19 Kids & Counting/All American Muslim.

Leigh Ann said...

I've always wanted to see Michelle and Kate swap. While Michelle's voice can grate on the nerves I think it would do the Gosselin some good to have someone who's not constantly screaming at them. And the Duggar kids would just ignore Kate. Although she would do something about the little kids walking on the kitchen counters in a hurry.

Londonbridges said...

I'd like to see Michelle swap with Mama June and her family. That would be an eye-opener for both these moms.

lisa van amerongen said...

Awesome idea!

Nancy Ann said...

The new season seems to just be stuff we already know.
1. Jill and Derrick prepare for their wedding and then get married.
2. Jessa and Ben spend time together and then get engaged. (We don't officially know this yet, but. . . )
3. Josh and his family move to a different house.
4. Michelle does not have another baby and neither does Anna.
5. Derrick's mom is sick and Jill and Derrick spend time with her.
6. Jill loves being a housewife and shows her domestic skills.
7. Jill and Derrick are gaga over each other.
8. Everyone will miss Jill SO MUCH!
Zzzzzz

sandi said...

I would love to see Michelle try to control the Gosselin kids with her whispering baby voice.They'd probably think she was nuts!
Likewise I think Kate would shape up the Duggar kids in a timely fashion.No more being late,no excuses,work work work and NO climbing on/licking the counters or anywhere else! Kate would happily tell them how nasty that is!
She'd have them lined up for inspection first thing in the morning.LOL

tulip said...

I see Josh following in JB's footsteps attempting to become a state rep. or senator. I really think the FRC gig is just a foot in the door to get his mug in the face of any & all conservative Christians. Talk of "law school", posting every Instagram pic as of late nothing but 100% pure politico and all aboard the Santorum express. Notice Anna has also been posting her "passion" as she refers to her pro-life propaganda. Maybe that's why their house was up for rent on Zillow & the new season supposedly will be addressing more changes w/ Josh & Anna, like moving back to his home state to start decorating the Duggar bus for his own campaign? It's just all too obvious to me as Josh posts a pic of a meet & greet at the quote "local soda fountain". Really? Ugh.

Anonymous said...

hope this kid ben moves away fast before he takes up with this duggar clan. I hope derrick will stand up to jim bod. I was hoping to see Josiah be the one to stand up and move away. when ever you look at josiah face he does not look happy.

Anonymous said...

RE: Londonbridges comment about the way Michelle & JB are carrying on about the "loss of Jill." My heart goes out to you in your losses & I totally agree that they are carrying this way too far. What's wrong with these people? I really hate to sound crude, but Jill is not 6 feet under. That's what is truly a loss. They don't know about the kind of loss you have experienced. So many people have lost a young person Jill age or younger & I don't mean by marriage. She is only living a short distance from them. Then can see her when they want to or talk on the phone. I will not continue to watch people that have so much try to make people feel sorry for them in their made-up loss!

CannedSoup said...

Re: "loss" of Jill: When our daughter married we weren't "losing" her, we were 1) seeing her happy, 2) seeing her start a great new phase of life, 3) gaining a wonderful son-in-law, 4) looking forward to more of the natural changes life brings.

Anonymous said...

I guess Jill

quit the Midwife business it looks like they are looking for an apprentice at the Mommy's Butterfly Midwifery.

Anonymous said...

RE: Derrick's mom's cancer. I really hope they don't cover much of this. An update would be nice but I really hope she had the sense to say no to typical Duggar tv coverage of health issues. She has no obligation to participate in the Duggar machine. I've seen too much tasteless and intrusive coverage of Anna's kids to wish that on anyone else.

Anonymous said...

RE: Ben's employment: And let's not forget that he already has a job - he's on a reality TV show. If he's on the show as much as we've seen, he's definitely getting some pay for it. Probably more lucrative than fixing windshields or whatever else the Duggars do to pretend they are regular working class folks for the sake of a reality show. Just ignore the man behind the curtain - or in this case, the piles of money.

Anonymous said...

Yes, we discussed Jill quitting her midwife training a few weeks ago.

tulip said...

Although there was in fact discussion of Jill "quitting" her midwife training, Mommy's Butterfly (though it doesn't name names) kind of responded to someone asking if Jill is 'ending' her apprenticeship by saying that 2 of their apprentices are officially done with the clinical part of the apprenticeship. So that may not mean that Jill "quit" so to speak? What's next though? More studies? I thought that w/ training like this, the clinical portion went along simultaneously with the studies, or that it would be at the end. maybe Jill actually is finished & can get licensed? IDK, but I hope so because going through all the work up to this point and then quitting because of the woman's "role" after marriage or whatever would be ridiculous. I think they would have to address it in the show, so we'll see.

Anonymous said...

Sure they will address Jill's quitting her misery training on the show but it will be a pregnancy announcement and how she needs to tend to her new role adawife and soon to be mother.

Anonymous said...

Re: Tulips comments about Jill quitting or finishing her midwife training. You are absolutely correct about the midwife studies & clinical going hand in hand. There is no way Jill has totally completed her studies & practical training. The midwife who was her mentor, said she still had many hours left in her training. As mentioned before, all you need to do is consider what she's done with her time . She was busy writing the book. Then all the time,she has been on the road over the past year with her family, doing the book tour, PR, book signings, the audio version of the book,which they all said was pretty much just Jill, as she was very good at that. Then courting, engagement, wedding planning. She was nowhere near finished when she started all these other endeavors.I have no idea how they will address this issue when the show returns, but they will find a way, they always do. When will they realize the as the old tried & true saying goes: "you can fool some of the people all of the time & all of the people some of the time, but you can never fool all of the people all of the time!"

Alberta Rose said...

I thought that w/ training like this, the clinical portion went along simultaneously with the studies, or that it would be at the end. maybe Jill actually is finished & can get licensed?

We'll know soon enough. She'll either have the letters "LPM" or "CM" after her name. Derrick definitely doesn't seem to mind Jill's career choice. A man who is into missionary work would be able to have more options being married to a woman who is a LPM or CM. Also, when I got married, I spent a few years sort of drifting, attempting to decide what direction my career should take. As I progressively became less secular, more Christian, it became easier to decide what to do. I got my inspiration from that infamous Duggar saying "This is how we've chosen to live our life". Michelle stated she worked until she had five children, which was also part of my inspiration for what life path to go on.

Just Me said...

I would LOVE to see Kate at the Duggars. That place would be whipped into shape. JB would be taken down a few notches too.

Anonymous said...

anyone else feel that Ben is only da ting Jessa for money reasons? I don't like him. there is somthing about him. he seems so phony to me.

lisa van amerongen said...

Love it!

Anonymous said...

RE: Alberta Roses comment about the fact, that we will know soon enough, if Jill has completed her studies, by the letters "LPM" or "CM" after her name. I believe the 3 letters in front of her name will really tell the story :MRS.

Anonymous said...

How could Michelle work until she had 5 children? She's always talking about how she was so burdened by getting up in the night to put a wash in the washer & change a wash into the dryer as she only had one washer & dryer . How she would cry & the friend came & helped her out with the laundry. Did she also get up in the morning, dress, go to work & who cared for the 5 children? If you mean doing bookkeeping or small clerical jobs for her husbands businesses, I think many of us have done that as a part of being a helpful partner to our husbands who are starting their own businesses.

catsandra said...

Re: Duggars stating that they are "losing" Jill...

My mother frequently told people during my wedding process that she was "losing" me...I thought it was ridiculous then and I think it's ridiculous now. To me, it's all about controlling. They're "losing" Jill because they can't control every move she makes.

Missy said...

RE: Canned Sous comments. I absolutely agree with you 100%. My husband & I felt the same way about our daughters marriage. I don't know about your situation, but we only had one daughter, Michelle & JB still have 8 more daughters. This is already getting old & we haven't even seen the TV tears.

Anonymous said...

I should add to my comment about doing bookkeeping & other small clerical jobs for our husbands as they started their businesses, I never referred to that as working.It was something I could do in the evenings when my little ones were in bed by 7-7:30 Just being a help mate to my husband & a way to save some money by not having to pay someone else. I never told people "I worked until I had 5 children." I'm sure many others did as much, if not more but considered it just a part of helping our husbands.

Anonymous said...

This business of saying you are losing a daughter to me is an insult to her future husband. If she is marrying a really wonderful man that loves her & she loves him you are not losing her. However catsandra& others are correct, they no longer have control over the daughter, but that's a whole different issue.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said, Anyone else feel that Ben is only da ting Jessa for money reasons? I don't like him. there is somthing about him. he seems so phony to me.

What I find even more incredulous is that Ben's parents, who seem to be attractive, intelligent and articulate, are so thrilled that their barely eighteen year old son is in a courtship leading to marriage (the visit to his home episode). C'mon, really? They want their kid who is barely old enough to vote, who doesn't have a college degree, hasn't completed a vocational training program, and who utters phrases like "me and Jessa" to get married to someone who also has none of the above? How do they think Ben's going to support he and Jessa's ten children and counting (conservatively)? As a Duggar costar, I guess.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous' comment about Ben dating Jessa for the money... I agree. He seems to be a little too instantly friendly with the rest of the family. Marrying a Duggar daughter would set you up for life in the fundie world. I don't sense that with Derick.

CannedSoup said...

Missy: we also have just the one daughter...our only child...so when she married now we also have a son!...and that is how we think of him...hopefully the Duggars will see how true that is as their children marry.

catsandra said...

I also wanted to add...

When Josh and Anna were married (just re-watched the episode last night), they were constantly saying that they were gaining a daughter. Am I missing something here with their culture? When they "lose" their daughter, are they losing her to the groom's entire family? I'm just curious about this since it seems so different when a son gets married than when a daughter gets married in their culture.

Canadian Fan Losing Interest said...

I think this difference between a son or daughter getting married dates back to Biblical culture when a son would build an addition onto his parents' home for him and his new bride. A daughter of marriageable age (starting at 13) was basically considered her father's property which was transferred to her groom. She would then leave to go live with her husband's family.

My parents think of my husband as their new son but after 2 months of marriage he doesn't feel comfortable yet calling them Mom & Dad although I do it to his parents.

Missy said...

Re: Canadian Fan Losing Interest, My son-in-law is just wonderful & we are very pleased with this marriage. When it comes to what to call the in-laws, we talked with our son-in-law &we have left it up to him..no pressure. . However our daughter,has always been a "daddy's girl,"since the day she was born. She & her father-in-law had a long talk & she told him how much she loved him, but at least for now, she could just never bring herself to call anyone else; "Dad." He thought it was very sweet & that her dad was a lucky man & he would always be there to be her, "other dad." However he didn't want to put her in a situation where it would be uncomfortable for her to call him dad. He said the most important thing was, that he could refer to her as his daughter. Probably, eventually down the line, everyone will be happy to have the title of Grandma & Grandpa.

CannedSoup said...

To Canadian Fan Losing Interest: First, LOVE your "name!" Second, I've been married 39 years and have always called my in-laws by their first names. Our son-in-law calls us by our first names---I think it is whatever seems natural to the people involved. For others, calling the in-laws "mom and dad" seems natural. Doesn't Anna call her in-laws "Jim Bob" and "Michelle"? I think so.

Leigh Ann said...

If Jim Bob asks Ben anytime soon "how do you plan to support my daughter" I wonder what Ben will say. In Derick's case it was kind of a dumb question seeing as he had a good job with a big company. For Ben that's a perfectly reasonable question. I would be asking the same thing if I were thinking of marrying an 18-year-old with nothing to offer. It's not even like he just graduated from college and doesn't have a job yet. He doesn't even have qualifications or skills to help him get a job. If the girl is expected to stay home, not work and have lots of babies, that's all the more reason to look for someone with earning potential.

Bet said...

I seem to remember very early on that Jim Bob and Michelle talked about having many acres--enough so that each child could have at least one acre to live on. They wanted to keep them close.

I didn't have a child to keep him close. I love my son. But, I've given him both roots and wings. I can't wait to see him fly. I love who he has become and it's been interesting to see that happen. He is not half me, half my husband, as the Duggars seem to think, but his own unique person. I am confident that he can be strong and make good decisions for himself.

I wonder how many of these kids will be taken advantage of. They haven't had the chance to be assertive for themselves. Ripe and ready for people to take advantage. But, I suppose then JimBob and Michelle will just say, "Look how evil the world is!"

I get very tired of the "Girls like____ and boys like _____." All the generalizations. Sometimes I look at the fake smiles of those that I suspect think no such thing and I just want time to speed up so I can see them break out.

This season sounds pretty predictable. What will they do when people lose interest and they don't have the TLC paychecks coming in?

What happened to the Bates family reality show?

Cassia said...

There are some photos on the Bates family website about their recent trip to California for a conference. John David is in some of the photos, dressed up for a skit. Nice for him to get out of the house and do something fun, working with kids. I wish his sisters could have that kind of freedom to get out of the house.

Anonymous said...

So glad you posted this Canned Soup. I was wondering if this was a common thing or not.
I have been married 26 years and call my inlaws by their first names. I can't think of any of my friends who call their inlaws mom or dad. I'm in the Midwest so maybe it is regional?


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I've been married 39 years and have always called my in-laws by their first names. Our son-in-law calls us by our first names---I think it is whatever seems natural to the people involved. For others, calling the in-laws "mom and dad" seems natural. Doesn't Anna call her in-laws "Jim Bob" and "Michelle"? I think so.
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Allison said...

I find it kind of strange that John David was in those Bates photos, but only the ones for the skit, and not any of the other family photos. Were any other siblings there? Was he traveling with the Bates and if so, why wasn't he in more pictures? That's really strange... not very Duggar like with them always traveling with chaperones or buddies.

Anonymous said...

Why was John David traveling with the Bates family? Doesn't he have a job to go to and do? I know they work for themselves, but I would think he has scheduled work to accomplish for customers. Funny how these "working adult children" of the family are always available to take off and travel around with whomever? Don't get me started on Josh....

tater tot said...

Sounds like the new season will pretty much be like the same ole' same ole' however i do want to see Jills wedding. As for the other episodes i am very tired of the same info being given out. Their pantry...with all that canned food uggh. The boring road trips...Soo tired of Michelles baby voice...tired of Jimboobs tired ole' jokes...see all my kids..Michelle has beeen good to me. Same crap different day..different year...lol..just mho.

Anonymous said...

I do not think John was traveling with the Bates. David Waller posted pics of Michelle and Jim Bob at the Sacramento home school conference. John David was probably with them-he may have flown them to Sacramento.

Marites H. said...

Must be nice to have a son who can fly you across the country so you don't have to actually buy plane tickets. I was really hoping John David was doing this trip on his own but the apron strings holding him to Mama & Daddy are still pretty tight.

Anonymous said...

Re: John David flying his parents to Sacramento:
Is he able to fly without an instructor pilot? Do you know that the fuel would cost to fly that distance in a small plane? Quite a bit. Also, the flying time would not outweigh the benefits of taking a commercial jet flight.

hello said...

Those apron strings are being held onto so tight that they will never break. Jimboob and Michelle feel the need to have complete control over theor kids no matter how old they are.
The new season will feature Jill's wedding, Jessa and Ben's courtship/engagement, their mission trip and more field trips. They will appear on the Today Show to announce that Jill is expecting and Michelle will go on about how precious this season of life is. She will try not to show how jealous she is that her baby making days are over. She will continue to look at Jimboob in awe whenever he is talking. Jimboob will continue to kiss Michelle every chance he gets and act like a horny teenager.

cassia said...

David Waller's picture are from a homeschooling conference in Texas. The Bateses (or Bates as they are often incorrectly called) were in California. On David's website there is a video clip (filmed from the back of the room) of the Duggar family singing a Christian benediction set to the tune of "Eidelweiss" from "The Sound of Music". I bet the kids haven't seen that movie and only know the music from this Christian song.

Anonymous said...

Cassia, I'm quite sure that those kids haven't and won't ever see The Sound of Music. That novice Catholic nun who (gasp!) falls in love with a widowed father and then (gasp!) follows her own heart and doesn't take her final vows but then does take other vows when she marries him. The entire story is just filled with sin what with that kiss before marriage and all... However, she may have scored some points with JB when she used that unwanted fabric from those old bedroom curtains to make play clothes for all those kids...buy used and save the difference, so to speak...Nope, no way have those kids ever seen it.

Willow said...

David Waller also posted pics from the Sacramento, CA conference, under the title "West Coast Adventure". There are pics of the conference plus their vacation pictures from CA and OR. The pictures of John David are on Kelly's blog.

Anonymous said...

This is just my opinion, but the fact that the Duggars act on a scripted TV show and proclaim it as a ministry just doesn't sit well. They seem to have set themselves up on a pedestal to be looked up to and admired by us heathens. I've seen very few pictures from the wedding so I guess they're being held for ratings purposes so their ministry can continue.

Anonymous said...

Yes Cassia, David's current post is from the homeschool conference in Texas, but his post prior to that was homeschool conference in Sacramento and Duggars were there-I checked before I made my post.

Anonymous said...

Why does the brides father get to say you may kiss your bride, at the Duggar wedding, instead of the minister who is conducting the ceremony? Also from the few previews we've seen, I guess there will be plenty of TV tears. I have seen them showing JB with his handkerchief, ready to shed those tears. They definitely know they are not losing a daughter, as we all know she is living close by. She apparently visits the homestead often, they can text & talk & she has been seen with some of the young kids with her. They really need to get a grip. & deal with reality. After all this is supposed to be a "reality show."My own daughter moved quite a distance away after her wedding as her husband was in the military. Although we knew we would miss her greatly, we also knew she had a wonderful husband & a wonderful life to look forward to. Of course, in our case we considered her an adult who could make her own decisions.

Anonymous said...

Re: What to call the in-laws. I believe Anna calls Michelle & JB by their fist names. Once or twice she did refer to Michelle as "mom," but not when she was talking to her, only, when she was referring to her, i.e. "I invited mom for dinner." A couple of episodes, I believe when they were on their trip to Asia, JB was referred to as "Pops". It didn't seem to come natural to Anna, it seemed rather strained. I believe she calls her in-laws Michelle & Jim Bob. I have never heard Josh call his in-laws anything but, Mr. Keller or Mrs. Keller. As a matter of fact, that's what JB & Michele call the Kellers. In a recent repeat, of the bowling match between JB & Mrs Keller, JB called Anna's mom, Mrs. Keller, as he proceeded to force a tie breaker so he could beat Mrs. Keller at bowling. I have never heard the Kellers referred to by their first names. It's always Mr. & Mrs. Keller.

Anonymous said...

The relationship between the Kellars and the Duggars seems always to be ice cold. Yes, Josh still refers to his wife's parents as "Mr & Mrs Kellar", even after 3 kids with Anna. Anna side hugs her own mother!Coldness, distance yet again. JimBob and Michelle have a problem expressing any affection to anyone other than each other. They are a sick group of people who claim that "family" is everything.. it's not to them as they don't have a good relationship with their own first blood families. Michelle would be close to her own siblings, nieces and nephews, who seem to live on Mars as they are NEVER mentioned as having any interaction with her.

Nancy Ann said...

And just in time for the new season, Jessa and Ben are engaged. It is clear that they are sexually attracted to each other and they have similar beliefs, but it seems they have very different personalities. Sometimes that works out great and creates some excitement in a marriage and sometimes that pulls people apart. I find it interesting that Jessa describes Ben as having a "mellow personality." What the rest of the world have seen of Ben is not mellow. Marriage is a difficult proposition under the best of circumstances, so good luck to both of them.

hello said...

Jessa is working on changing her personality to please Ben. In the People interview she said she has been getting advice from her sisters on sweet things to say to Ben. It's a shame the girls have been trained that they need to change themselves to please a man, but then again look at who the parents are. Michelle made sure that her advice to Jill before she got married was to never say no to sexual relations with her husband no matter what. Jessa will no doubt get the same advice. It has got to be scary for the girls to go from courting with limited physical contact and no alone time to getting married, kissing, being alone with a man and having sex. They also go from being under their dad's authority to being under their husband's. It's worse for the Duggar girls than other fundie girls since they have a dad that has no problem having their courtships, engagements and weddings filmed for ratings and a paycheck.

Stephanie said...

Has Jill learned enough midwifery to attend to women in third world countries? Probably yes. They are third world countries for a reason. Unlicensed midwives for one example.

Rudy Tecat said...

Well, let's see about this new season: Episode One: Jill's wedding, with Jana trying to look happy for her little sister. Episode Two-Ten: Jessa courting and Jana trying to look happy for her little sister. Episode Eleven: Jessa gets engaged, and Jana tries to look happy for her little sister. Episode Twelve: Jill announces she's expecting, and Jana tries to look happy for her little sister. Oh, and somewhere in there the family goes to a farm or a zoo and Jana tries to smile as she rides a little train with the little kids she has to take care of while JB&M kiss.

Anonymous said...

TLC is too far behind real time here and this courting and wedding of Jill's is old news and anticlimactic. I understand that taping, editing, must be done, then scheduled to air.. but I think these "seasons" of 8 episodes aren't seasons at all...way too short and behind the times. Either step up the tempo here, of cancel the show.

Quickly Losing Interest said...

"TLC is too far behind real time here and this courting and wedding of Jill's is old news and anticlimactic. I understand that taping, editing, must be done, then scheduled to air.. but I think these "seasons" of 8 episodes aren't seasons at all...way too short and behind the times. Either step up the tempo here, of cancel the show."

Absolutely right! They definitely need to speed up the timeline of episodes. It was bizarre to watch Jill & Derick's perky "we're expecting" video clip immediately followed by the new 19K&C commercial, with Derick saying something like "we're getting married soon."

There has been so much People mag coverage of the Duggar family newsflashes in recent weeks that we already know what's going on with the family without even watching their TV show.

Anonymous said...

You forgot a trip or two to the dentist.

Anonymous said...

I completely agree with the comment regarding the lag-time with TLC. I was very interested in Jill's wedding and followed as much as possible on-line (which consisted of very little original information and just re-posting the same few photos and statements on different sites). I was never really a Duggar watcher but became interested with this story line. TLC could have leveraged an entire new group of fans (or "watchers") if they had capitalized on the timing. I no longer care and they have missed a great opportunity to have a Summer Special on the wedding leading into the new show. I know lots of people who feel the same and were disappointed and lost interest due to the length of time - no one cares about old news.

sandi said...

Yes,in journalism we call it stale news.
They could gain a lot more viewers if they kept up the show in real time,as close as possible to actual events.Maybe a special for the weddings and births and such.
By now,Jill's wedding is old news,and we already know what theme she had,what dress she wore,and what the wedding party attire was.A big yawn when it is shown on the show now.
And now she's pregnant,so it's on to that now in the media,before the marriage is even shown on tv.
Ho hum.Come on tlc,get with it!

Anonymous said...

The Duggar publicity master-mind, Jim Bob, is pulling the rope too tightly, IMO. There is way too much lag time between airings of the show and actual real time events. If you starve your audience, they simply will begin to "eat" elsewhere.

Anonymous said...

I wonder if they will show Jill's wedding right away or build each episode up to it and that be the season finale. I really hope they don't wait til the last episode or so. Jessa will be getting married in real life possibly, by the time they air Jill's. This would be ridiculous. If this is reality TV then please TLC get up to speed on filming and airing these shows. Jill's baby will be 6 months and crawling before they show tape anew season( they usually start airing in Sept.) Since this season's filming is over, next season will show her just being pregnant..talk about behind times. Seesh she could be pregnant again by time they even show her first.

punkin' said...

Gosh ...we already know whats going on with the Duggarites. People mag and many others...so whats TLC going to do...oh let me guess...go into big detail over what we already know...Stale is right on target...same stuff and its all stale..in fact its growing mold. I just cant seem to be excited about a new season with basically the retelling of what we ALREADY know. Oh yeah we will hear about baby after baby AGAIN..same road as before just different players. This family seems to think that they invented having babies...i'm just sick of all the tv births while tellling us how they cant show a knee cap or mommys skin only babies......sounds so childish. Sick of seeing the births...cant they leave alittle to the imagination...not that i want to think about child birth...happy to have my kid but child birth is more of a private thing IMO..but hey i will show you a knee cap...but only one... :D cuz thats the way i roll. Sorry for the rant folks. You all have a A Happy Holiday!

Dar said...

Had a rerun of Jubilee's conception, (well) announcement on TV, Name choosing with the children, ultra-sound and miscarriage. In my view, the cameras should have been turned off at that point. Not in this family. The exploitation started immediately. She was named Jubilee. We were also told about another miscarriage, about 25 years previous and he was named Calib The tears and attention Michelle gave to this 4oz fetus is more than I have seen her give to any of her living children since they appeared on TV. I don't mean to offend anyone. Miscarriage is unfortunate. It is usually because there is something wrong. I also think it should be private. To put their children on TV and cry and discuss a little person they had never met was cruel. Those little kids certainly did not understand. The older girls had to sit there with a camera in their faces and try to deal with the emotion and tears of their parents. The ensuing big funeral with all those people was over the top to say the least. Even after all this time, Michelle can get the tears flowing discussing it for the cameras. The Emmy awards were given out last night. Michelle Duggar should have been nominated for best actress. She would have won it "hands down", in my opinion

Willow said...

I watched that also Dar. You are so right in all you said here. The other thing that struck me was JB went around and kissed all the kids but Michelle just sat there and no one came rushing up to hug her. So stiff and formal - just weird this family. Do you think its because they are raised in ATI to show no emotion except "sweet". Just weird.

Anonymous said...

During the "Dishing with the Duggars" episode, Michelle was interviewed and TRIED to spew love, admiration and mom-like statements about how great Anna is as a wife and mother to Josh and the kids. She did a poor job, IMO, spoke with no emotion and a blank face. She really doesn't give a damn about Josh, Anna or their kids or household. She seems to be an unemotional woman, cold towards her own kids, just "heats up for Jim Bob in the love grotto", but that's all it is with her, just sex and accommodation for him so he doesn't leave her and she loses the gravy train that she is riding.

puddin' said...

I have seen a couple of the "Dishing with the Duggars" ...what in the heck its all the same crap we have seen and heard before. Now we have to see the talking heads giving us yet the same old same old. Why is Michelle Orange? Not a good look on Michelle...i think they should make her Green--green with envy that its not her having babies, which cracks me up as she is close to 50 years old. GROW UP MICHELLE...Let loose and enjoy your grandkids and be happy for what you do have.

Anonymous said...

This "new" season is old news. They've moved on to a pregnancy and another engagement since Jill's wedding. Why should we waste our time watching the out of date wedding planning? I wonder how long the series, and it is a scripted TV series, can continue? Courtship after courtship, wedding after wedding, pregnancy after pregnancy. Do these people really continue to feel that this is their ministry? I'm sorry, but their attitudes and selling "news" to the highest bidder and becoming "stars" is not a ministry. I also wonder why Jim Bob and Michelle felt the courtship of Jessa and Ben needed to be accelerated. My only answer to that question is ratings and dollar signs, which don't equate to ministry.

Anonymous said...

TLC just showed a preview of a series coming this fall called "The Gypsy Sisters."

Good God, give me the Duggar Sisters any day.

Anonymous said...

That's the hypocrisy of the Duggars. Their so-called ministry is a sham just to make money for themselves. The only "character quality" they demonstrate is greed, greed using Jesus which is an abomination.

Anonymous said...

When you start "scripting" your life for a show, how does that become your life? I worry about these children and young adults who have grown up with cameras following them. I realize a season is a season, but after a while, turn it off. Stop the cameras.

But then, I feel like a hypocrite after typing this because I am going to make some real popcorn with real butter Tuesday night and watch the show. There it 'tis. I fessed up. What I am really hoping to see is a glimmer of 'reality' and not script. I try to remind myself that this is 30 or 60 minutes of edited moments that have been carefully filtered through a 'storytelling' team.

Anonymous said...

Why does every Duggar pronounce "family" like "femmmlee" ?

sandi said...

Anonymous,it really is taking God's name in vain,imo.Vain isn't the simple swearing most ppl think it is.It is saying or doing/implying things that aren't scriptural at all.
That's all the fundies and ATI followers have done throughout the years is take God's name in vain,and now they do it for the love of money (and material things).JMO

Anonymous said...

I agree with your sentiments Sandi. Also I think it's really just the Duggars and anyone who models themselves after them who are guilty of this blasphemy against God. There are likely some well-meaning fundies who are trying to follow the example of Jesus with their families and ministries (and living out "JOY"--Jesus,Others,Yourself in that order in their lives), but they would not whore themselves for fame and riches and sell out their Savior in the process like the Duggar clan. It's the Duggars that give Christianity a bad name.

Anonymous said...

dar I absolutely agree with everything you said re: the Jubilees episode. The announcement, the ultrasound, the funeral. It should hsve been private s you said && yes Michele has always seemd to be able to cry onstop when it comes to Jubilee. I understand how devastating a miscarriage is, but most reasonable people keep it private between their very close family & friends. I do have to say that although JB did go around kissing all the kids, I really did feel that was all for the cameras. It just didn't ring true to me, especially when some of the kids.I realize that's JMO.

Anonymous said...

RE My post of 9/2 @2:33pm I wanted to say it didn't ring true to me when JB was going around kissing the kids especially when some of the kids put their arms out to keep JB at arms length.

Anonymous said...

So far I am unimpressed with this season. It is filled with either recaps, excessive commercials, fluff and fill. The episodes are staged nonsense and don't accomplish anything but a very small amount of showing us Jill and Derick's preparations for their wedding. I don't need to wait until March 2015 to see Jessa's fiasco of a wedding that will take place in November 2014.
Remember, Jim Bob, if you starve your viewers, they will simply eat elsewhere.