TLC Breaking the Silence Special, August 30, 2015, 10:00 PM

People article.

Fishwrapper.

130 comments:

Dee said...

I read on Daily Mail that the Duggar sisters have only a very small part in this and are not among those sharing their experience.
I hope this is true

Just Plain Offended said...

I hope they are not getting paid. If they are and that fact is not highlighted in articles promoting the special, I will be even more irritated than I already am. I saw a photo today of Jill, Jessa (in her skin tight T-shirt) and Michelle in New York for filming. I suppose Michelle's excuse was to be there to watch the baby, surely a clue as to the Duggar's motives in being involved in this project. Michelle never watches babies. That's Jana's job. Michelle must be using her "sweet" voice today to campaign for being on TV again to teach the world how to live their lives the right way. These people have absolutely no sense of how many mistakes they've made, continue to make, and disdain the public has for them.

Bobbi said...

Dee, I hope the Duggar daughters have limited imput into this documentary. It's interesting that slime ball Josh Duggar will not be included within this documentary. So the perv gets a pass, disgusting. I still believe this documentary will not hold the Duggars feet to the fire. It will be a repeat of the Fox News interview. So why bother. The Duggars can't handle truth. They now have fooled themselves into beliving their lies & now lies are their standard from which they choose to live. Also, the Gothard Cult is a huge Lie!

Captain Crunch said...

I would like to know how can JillyMuffin and Jessa Blessa talk about thier experiences on being molested 'over the clothes' when they claim they were asleep during the 'improper touching over the clothes for a few seconds' and they never even knew they were molested until their dad told him so?
Just what are they going to share?
Oh yes...they must be going thru camera withdrawals.

Heart in Florida said...

Why then, did Michelle need to be flown to NYC? I'd like to see just why TLC needed those three, Michelle, Jill and Jessa for this documentary. They can't add anything constructive or positive as their attitudes about this subject is appalling, IMO.

Andrea said...

According to People: "Erin Merryn opens up about being a two-time survivor and discusses her passionate fight to end abuse with Erin's Law legislation, which requires sexual abuse prevention education in public schools."

This would be comically ironic if it wasn't all so sad. Here's the thing TLC, the Duggar's believe in homeschool. So although Erin Merryn helps to educate public school attendees, people like the Duggar's are really the ones which need sexual abuse prevention education. Won't be watching!

Willo said...

I'm with Cedric. You would think the "antics" of Mr. Gothard would come up during the documentary, in some context, but I doubt it will. In 10 years on television, (the Duggars) I don't think his name actually ever came up. Just ATI, homeschooling conference, Journey to the Heart, ALERT, etc. In other words, everything but Mr Gothard's name.

Aunt Bea said...

As I have stated before, and I'll state it again, the Duggars have done everything possible to HIDE their faith from the viewing audience; not show it or promote it at all...their use of language, hiding actual answers with smoke and mirrors as to who and what they actually follow and believe. If the opposite were true, we would have heard the name,Bill Gothard, and IBLP, etc.. we also would have had "those studies" clearly identified that Michelle referred to in their "bible time". I was disappointed that the producers didn't ask her, "what studies, and pamphlets are you referring to?....who wrote them, Michelle?" but TLC neglected to take the opportunity to ask them about the specifics and origins of their interpretation of Christian faith, so I hold TLC's feet to the fire for this one too. TLC has routinely done this and has given them a conscious pass on the subject.

Dee said...

Bobbi - Re: the documentary being a repeat of the Fox news fiasco - I'm really hoping they don't even begin to try to hold the Duggar's feet to the fire in this upcoming show. I'd rather this documentary be a thoughtful, informative program that focuses on the survivors of molestation and how to get help if a person is dealing with this horrible situation.
I would LOVE, at some point, to see a program where a proper professional sits down with Jim Bob, Michelle, Jill, Jessa, Jinger, and Joyanna and just tell it like it is. That those girls were used as cannon fodder in deference to Jim Bob's ambition and that what he and Michelle did was criminal and that they should be thanking their lucky stars that they're not behind bars.
Of course, the sheep bleeting noises that would start to come out of them would be deafening, but maybe...just MAYBE...one of those girls would take those words to heart and realize it wasn't their fault and that it's not their responsibility to defend their attacker or their parents.
One can wish....

Bobbi said...

Dee, now that I've had the chance to review my thoughts about my post, I believe I reacted instead of thinking first before posting. Your post makes absolute sense & the documentary should definitely focus on survivors of abuse & molestation & how one may get help. I also want to learn about ideas for prevention. I apologize. Thank you.

gigi said...

This can't possibly be true..Dim Bulb and Minnie want a spin off where they counsel abused people. Can they really be that dumb?????
http://www.starpulse.com/news/index.php/2015/08/14/jim-bob-duggar-wants-to-counsel-sexual

Meme said...

I can't imagine why ANY of the Duggars would have a place in this documentary. Which story would they tell this time? Did/didn't happen. Were/weren't aware. Josh confessed/Jill told. Was asleep/was being chased around the laundry room. Let us count the contradictions and lies. Assuming that the Duggars participate, will the family trot over to Cousin Amy's parents' house to watch the show? Now imagine one of the little girls going to the parents after the viewing and saying," Mom, some of the things I just saw on that show have been going on at home..." Can you see JimBob or Michelle doing the right thing now? I don't think so, either.

Living in Indy said...

Gigi, OMG. Yes the Duggars are that Dumb. They live ina bubble of pretend Gothard Cult land. This spin off about Counseling from those two idiots will never happen. Surely the media must realize the ansolute absurdity & moronic behavior of these two boring Fundies.

Dee said...

Bobbi - absolutely no need to apologize! I also want to see someone really put Jim Bob and Michelle on blast....no Fox news soft soap silliness.
I would love to see his smug expression and her lobotomized gaze wiped off their faces.
I would also love to see Jim Bob's true narcissistic rage showcased for all to see...especially their gullible followers.

Heart in Florida said...

Who would be the "dumber one," the Duggars, who actually think they have anything appropriate to offer in a counseling TV series, or the network that would actually pick up that show?

Katie's Mom said...

I was in the store today & watched a young mom helping her 2 children pick out their new back backs & binders as well as various other "back to school supplies." I just had to wonder, just exactly what are all those young Duggar kids doing all day at home, while their parents & pseudo parents are running around the world converting perfectly content people to their brand of religion, as well as enjoying some get away time in N.Y. as they their await their big moment in the spotlight to place Josh back on the pedestal where he rightfully belongs. All their fans, family & friends believe Josh should be returned to the top of the pedestal. After all the poor boy (man) has suffered enough. It's time to forgive Josh, if you belong to the Gothard Cult. After all people, it was only little girls that were abused? Why then do Jim Bob, Michelle & Josh need to suffer with all this vile media focus on them? You know there used to be a saying "boys will be boys," but it actually turns out that "girls will be girls," with their defrauding ways.
Please everyone I hope & pray you realize that this post is completely sarcastic.
Because sometimes there is just nothing else reasonable to say.

Cedric said...

Heart in FL, Hey Good One!

Ellyn said...

Isolation of children or adults is extremely Unhealthy & promotes idleness. Although I am definitely not religious, the Bible states an idle mind is the devils workshop. Since the Duggars are embedded with the evil Gothard Cult, then this makes sense.

KatieP said...

When watching the Bates family, I do my utmost best to view them realistically & objectively keeoing in the forefront they are loyal to the Gothard Cult. However, I've heard Kelly Bates state that Gil & she do their best to prepare their kids to eventually pursue what they want to do in life. The Bates parents (college grads) promote college for their kids interested to pursue a degree. During one episode Kelly was very hands on homeschooling her kids. 100% the difference between Gil & Kelly, Jim Bob & Michelle is first maturity, common sense, education & intelligence. Of those four characteristics, Jim Bob & Michelle possess Zero!

Chloe said...

I wonder if old man creepy Gothard attended the wedding of Michaela & Brandon Keilen? Does anyone know?

Aunt Bea said...

KatieP: I understand your point, yes, Kelly and Gil are real college graduates, but for all Kelly said on that episode about education and pursuing it...they haven't sent any of their college age children to any real accredited college YET...they only have allowed some classes at that Crown College, which is a religious/Gothard-like one that isn't accredited and a "diploma" from that institution isn't worth the paper it's printed on in the real business/work world...also, I don't see any of their adult children, except for Zach, who's a law enforcement officer, doing any real job or work...especially the daughters, they are bred to marry only like the Duggar daughters and the other Gothard-population folk. Sad to say, but the Bates package themselves a bit better than the Duggars, but they are cut from the same bolt of cloth...If Gil values a college education so much, why isn't HE using his degree? He abandoned it long ago..Kelly, she has one too, but will never mention it or say what she graduated with and aspired to be professionally. I've never heard her say it...once again, so sad it's that way.

sandi said...

I imagine Gothard was at the wedding,and he may have even given a speech,like he did at the Waller's wedding.I just doubt that he was allowed to be filmed for UPtv,or even photographed by any attendees

Syndee said...

"I was in the store today & watched a young mom helping her 2 children pick out their new back backs & binders as well as various other "back to school supplies." I just had to wonder, just exactly what are all those young Duggar kids doing all day at home,"

I used to always wonder that. When my gradeschoolers would come home with homework, go to soccer, girl scouts, go ride their bikes to the park, have chess club, reading club, science club, Fri evening events at the library, book reports, posters on a certain planet or state, field trips to the museum, the list just goes on and on. What do the kids do, just wake up then what? They can't even watch TV. Just sit around the house? Have their 2 hrs of half-a$$ed home schooling, then what for the rest of the day? It just seems so horrible, like some ancient princess getting locked in a castle. It just has to be mind-numbingly boring.

Living in Indy said...

Interesting that creepy Gothard not being allowed to or rather refusing to be filmed. No Bates or Duggar will ever admit they are in tis stupid Gothard Cult. I am surprised Gothard has never been the officiant at some of these weddings.

Cedric said...

Well Sandi this speaks volumes about old jerk Gothard meaning the guy is a Coward.

sandi said...

Exactly Cedric,if this brand of religion is the only one,true religion,and is all that great,then why the need to hide? If so,then it should be shouted from the rooftops! But we all know it isn't,thus the need to be sinister and keep a low profile instead.JMO

Ellyn said...

The sick Gothard Cult is not a religion. I read about the 9 points that identify or qualify a Cult. The points were quite long & so I choose not to post them. However google Bill Gothard Cult eventually the 9 points display. I still am totally amazed the Bates & Duggars are oblivious to the fact they are in a Cult. Just amazing to me. Difficult to get my head around that one.

Living in Indy said...

Sandi, Gothard is shady, sinister, dishonest, shame based (hiding) & a coward. He's a coward & hiding because deep down this guy knows he's wrong. Gothard is on a power trip controlling a plethora of Fundies who are easily led down the garden path. I've said before this cult is heinous & dangerous.

Heart in Florida said...

Ellyn: It goes to show you that a college education,(like the Bates have) doesn't protect you from cults, etc..sometime ago, somewhere, these couples were looking for something in their lives. Why they continue to "hide" their founder and never mention his name when talking about their beliefs, is curious. I would think if someone believes in a something to the degree that these people do, they would be advertising the man's name and all of his offerings...but they don't. That to me, is a red flag right there.

Auggie said...

This article says the Duggar girls won't be interviewed for the Breaking the Silence documentary. They will be seen entering a seminar for prevention of abuse.
http://www.christianitydaily.com/articles/5490/20150816/duggars-jessa-seewald-shares-pregnancy-update-28-weeks.htm (there's also mention of Jessa's pregnancy.)

I'm so glad. Maybe the organizations actually listened to all our comments asking them NOT to include the Duggar girls in the documentary.

I wonder if any of the prevention points are about getting out of a cult or how to know when you're in a cult?

Cedric said...

Heart in FL, Yes the Bates & Duggars should be forthcoming about Gothard but each family continues to practice Deception. I don't see the Bates coming forward about their loyalty to Gothard.

Josie said...

heart in FL- you hit the nail on the head! This show is supposed to be a platform for them, but they never really discuss their core beliefs (just surface stuff like "it's important for a wife to keep sweet!!!!!") nor do they ever say what religion they are exactly or say anything about their God-thard. If you have been told not divulge certain aspects of your faith by your spiritual leader, then that is a huge red flag.

As for this special....I saw the commercial for it and the main spokesperson seems to be Erin, of Erin's law. The Duggars were not in the promo, nor were they mentioned, thank goodness. They are the poster family for what NOT to do when someone in your care is sexually a used by another person in your care.

roddma said...

I agree the Bateses are cut form the same cloth as the Duggars. Yea, it seems the Bateses 'allow' their kids more, but it is only more that fit with their beliefs. Alyssa is barely 20, and a parent, barely married a year. She only wears pants because she isn't home anymore. None of the rest have ditch the no birth control .So until one of them goes to a real accredited college pursuing a non-Gothard degree , dates instead of courts, refuses to marry at 20, or starts using birth control, Im not impressed. I read a comment on an article that a young woman met them when the last Bates kid was born. Gil asked how many kids she had, she said none because she used birth control. She said she didn't use it, and then acted like she had the plague. Why is it GIl's business anyway? I wouldn't doubt if it is true. That's why I dont give the Bateses much credit except maybe they are more musically talented.

Virginia said...

I learned years ago that those "religions" that hide things are not a religion at all but are a cult. Also a true Christian religion does not pick and choose what they follow from the bible. The reason the Bates and Duggars do not attend a regular church is because they want their children to only be exposed to their teachings. That is a major red flag. As a Christian parent one thing I learned long ago is that you can give your children a solid Christian foundation but ultimately they have a free will and their faith must become their own. They can not exist in their parents faith forever. I think that is why JB and M were so worried about Josh and Anna moving because they would be exposed to the outside world and start to think for themselves. That didn't happen. I do think that the girls are more likely to start to move away from the cult as they get away from mom and dad. This is because they have been so mistreated over the years. They have essentially been slaves to the boys and mom and dad. There has to be some internal resentment there. My heart breaks for all these kids as they have been so isolated and brainwashed their entire lives.

funtally said...

Which Bates has a college education? I don't think a rightwing conservative unaccredited cult school counts! Or online schools!

funtally said...

Have you ever seen that Bates girl banging a piano? You might change your opinion on their musical "talent."

funtally said...

My sister in law home-schooled for one year. (Then the kids went to private Christian school). It was a JOKE. The kids told me that if mama wasn't feeling well, or had errands to run or had to take the baby to the doctor, there was no school that day. Apparently there were a lot of days like that!

Chloe said...

Well Josh definitely broke silence today with this latest cheating & porn scandal. Wonder how old man creepy Gothard Cult leader feels about this latest Duggar fiasco?

sandi said...

I wonder if Josh's family is a member of ATI still;I am guessing they got a pass on the $600+ yearly fee before this all happened

Chloe said...

Sandi, well of course they are probably still involved with ATI its part of the Gothard Cult the God they worship.

Annie said...

Holy Cow! I thought it had hit the fan with the molesting thing. Ol'Joshie really has done it now. I feel so for Anna. Forget the fame and all of that, this was still a marriage. He entered the marriage a complete perv with a short circuited brain from his youth and the porn and he used and abused her. She won't leave, but she should. What good will her BA in Chrisian Education do her now? Wonder what her parents say about this? Also wonder about all those faithful supporters that say he was "cured" and changed...Plus WHO would have an affair with him.

Infidelity is very hard to bounce back from.

Rudy Tecat said...

Ok, one more subject for JimBob and Michelle to counsel: Anna, who was mentally abused by her cheating, porn-addicted husband.

Annie said...

I thought that the Crown College of the Bible WAS accredited. I tried looking on it's website and had a hard time finding the accreditation. It gives teaching degrees. Honestly, I thought that it said that the college was accredited. Did I misread it? I can't imagine spending 4 years and tuition money only to receive a worthless degree. seriously, college is hard enough in a real school.

sandi said...

Chloe,I'm sure,I am just wondering if they are still official registered members of ATI.

Mary Dunn said...

They still participate in all things ATI. Big Sandy Texas, Journey to the Heart, COMMIT, and ALERT. Are all components of it. Josh is a prime example of the negative effects of living too sheltered. I hope they see the error of their ways and learn from this. I am also wondering what other dysfunctions they are hiding. I am sure Josh is just another person repeating the cycle of abuse....where did he learn this? I know they aren't a perfect family, yet they think their lifestyle and choices are better than other Christians. Condemning Catholics is part of my reason for my conclusions. Who abused Josh?

KimmieH said...

I just can't imagine what woman would want to have an affair with the Pillsbury Dough Boy Josh Duggar? The thought of it sickens me & gives me the creeps.

Bobbi said...

I still stand by my conclusion the heart of this mess goes back to the Gothard Cult. I am confident many other Fundie families involved with this stupid cult have children or parents involved in porn. It's proven over & over that Cults perpetuate sadistic behavior especially among men. Examples: Look at Jim Jones he was involved in porn, Look at Warren Jeffs of the FLDS, involved in porn. I will go out on a limb & suggest that old Gothard was or is probably involved in porn. Gothard never took responsibility for his perv actions against several female victims who outed him. These three men were or are currently leaders of a cult. I did the research & thus the results proved porn was at the destruction of every cult.

bigmommakat said...

If anyone believes Josh Duggar is the ONLY male in that bunch to have the pervy gene; think again. It is not normal in any way to be watched every moment. To live in a dormitory style room for a lifetime, with no privacy whatsoever is sick.
what about when puberty hits? These kids don't even get to leave the guarded compound alone. I bet there are even monitored as to how much time they spend alone in the bathroom...

Does anyone believe that a man as old as John David has never been curious about the female anatomy? No urges? They are bombarded with mixed messages regarding sex. Mommy and daddy go around touching, kissing and then have mucho alone time behind closed doors while the kids watch. These youngsters are not allowed to explore their normal feelings as they age.

They can never date. So the only choice is to marry the first idiot that happens along, if mommy and daddy agree. Still, they are not allowed to have any private conversations or physical bonding. Therefore, the sexual tension is called "love."
Then to top it off, they are forced to marry a virtual stranger in order to be intimate with the opposite sex.
Finally, instead of using the time to get to know each other alone, the women immediately start popping out babies.

I don't wonder why there is perversion in these type families. I wonder how could there not be?


Andraste said...

and a follow up story:

http://www.salon.com/2015/06/04/the_duggar_wives_of_the_world_have_spoken_i_thought_i_was_the_only_one/

KimmieH said...

Bigmommakat, Wow no one could have written this post better. The dorm style bedrooms & never any privacy is a recipe for disaster as is proven by Josh Duggar. Clearly Jim Bob & Michelle are abusive parents. The abuse begins with the "blanket training". No one from Arkansas child protective services seems to care. I have emailed this organization several times & received only one reply thanking me for sending an email. I thought well, that was a waste of my time. No one will intervene ior rescue these Duggar children. I live on the East Coast. If I lived in AR, I would do my best to commandeer help to rescue these children & give them the freedom & education they definitely need.

KimmieH said...

Josh is a creepy ugly man inside & outside. Everything about him is despicable including his whiney voice.

Cedric said...

Here is my parody on the manner in which Michelle Duggar would explain away Josh's latest scandal..

Josh gave away pieces of his heart even though he was told "you can't do this until you are married". Josh & Anna held hands too long but saved their first kiss at the altar. Josh needs to continue to side hug its so much better. Josh needs blanket training for himself. Josh's servants heart is hurting. Josh was just a boy of 27 when he sought extra activity on line. We will always forgive Josh even if he commits a crime. Oh wait he did when he mistaked his sisters & it was their fault in the end. Jim Bob & I love our precious wonderful son Josh. Now altogether lets hurl.

Bertha said...

I hope Anna has thrown J-turd out of the house, and is getting a divorce. How can she even look at him? I am sure Michelle and Jim Bob will defend him and say he has confessed, and God forgave him , so all is good. I never trust those holier than thou people, they are usually up to no good.

Aunt Bea said...

Bertha, when you don't trust "those holier than thou people",, that includes the Duggar parents.....IMO I never believed those people and still don't trust Jim Bob and Michelle one bit...I'd like to know the truth about all of their financial dealings and I'd like to know who else has "one of those accounts"? Jim Bob...John David, what have you been up to?

Syndee said...

"Anonymous KimmieH said...
I just can't imagine what woman would want to have an affair with the Pillsbury Dough Boy Josh Duggar? The thought of it sickens me & gives me the creeps."

Of course. That's why he got the $250 affair guarantee. Apparently he even thought so :)


Anne G said...

Anna will not leave. She has been brainwashed to stand by her man no matter what. JB and Michelle are probably blaming her for causing Josh to go on Ashley Madison, asking her if she ever "had a headache" or refused his advances. In their cult, it is all her fault!

Marie said...

If t l c has anything on forgiving the perpetrator, I will hurl.

Jennifer said...

I don't think the duggars will be in it at all. I think they are using their name to get viewers to watch. TLC wouldn't even comment on Josh's Ashley madison account. TLC has parted ways with them, EXCEPT for using their name and saying the duggars are going to have one last special. I think we are just going to hear from other groups and the duggars are just going to be talk about not actually interviewed.
While I am not a fan, just like most you we watch so we can talk about them. I do believe they have said many times thru out the years hey are Southern Baptists. But I've never seen a Southern Baptist with those beliefs!!

Heart in Florida said...

I can't believe that Michelle stated that they aren't part of the Quiverfull Movement. I don't know what Mr. Gothard and his teachings are with that movement, but I'd say they are "po-tay-to, and po-tah-to"..the Duggars sure do believe, act, dress, and live like that "Q" movement IMO....if it looks like a duck,...you know the rest.
They'll never admit who wrote those pamphlets, who authored their "studies" that she referred to in some episodes, and who wrote those "wisdom books"..I'd say it's all part of that Gothard cult/ATI/IBLP nonsense. If they don't adhere to this group, why have they traveled to conferences put on by those organizations if they aren't part of it? Once again, smoke and mirrors from the Duggars.

Living in Indy said...

Does anyone know if Michelle, Jana & Jinger committed to the speaking engagement in Indianapolis or because of Josh's latest scandal, did they choose to cancel? I am hoping they cancelled because what would they have to say? All three are really limited & well, socially retarded.

Heart in Florida said...

Jennifer: I believe the Duggars said that they are Independent Baptists...that means, to me, that they don't want to really adhere to the Baptist church or any of their authority...they adhere to Gothard's authority instead...It's evident to me.
If they were Southern Baptist, I think they would attend a Southern Baptist church, not their own made up private one, by invitation only...who ever heard of a church that's by invitation? Not Christian of them either.

BettyB said...

So now that all this has come out about Josh how will this mesh with TLC's special on sexual molestation? Sure hope they don't include the Duggars at all. The more I think about it the more I feel for Anna. That poor girl has been through so much--Josh's mess, a job loss, a major sudden move to another state, childbirth and more of Josh's mess; all on the internet for the whole world to see. (He is such a jerk.) A perfect mix for a bad case of postpartum depression. It's going to take her years to recover from this.

bigmommakat said...

I never thought about postpartum depression. You are probably 100% correct, BettyB.
Since there is never any decent recovery time between pregnancies, wouldn't it become lifetime depression?

Now think of her poor tired body having massive amounts of sex in order to keep her hubby from straying again. Hope this doesn't lead to an eating disorder for lovely Anna. She is probably going down an internal list of imaginary things she must do to hold on to that wonderful husband; it's her responsibility, after all.

List: smile, speak softly, gaze adoringly, stay slim, encourage sexual act as much as humanly possible, be ready for sex at any time. Ignore all negative thoughts or feelings. smile, smile, smile.

and on the side: keep house clean, yard work, full time mommy duties with children, breast feed your infant, cook several meals and snacks daily, welcome random in- laws and serve them, be ready to pack and travel if mother or father-in-law demand it. Last but not least pretend the truth does not exist.

Cedric said...

The trouble with pretending things away, eventually the chickens will come home to roost probably when Anna is in her 30s or 40s. My Mom would pretend things away & when my brother & I reached our 40s we realized that our entire childhood was a ruse. Both of us have since elected to engage in therapy & thank God. We are now estranged from our Mom.

Heart in Florida said...

If those posts are really from Anna's brother, Daniel, and I hope they are, I also commend the guy for standing behind HIS SISTER, and really protecting her and her children from that Duggar "mess"...also an even bigger thanks to him for offering her a place to live and to take care of her in the meantime...VERY BIG OF HIM and his wife,, CANDACE..now, that, IMO is being godly, not like the Kellers...if that is true about them being more concerned about how THEY would look in their community to have a daughter who divorced her husband, that is NOT Christian of them because they are prideful, and more concerned about their own reputation than the well being of their own daughter...Kellers, we already think poorly of you in the wake of all this....Mr. Keller, you did a crappy job of "praying about Josh those years ago as a decent, proper and GODLY husband pick for your daughter. You can only move "up" in your reputation by standing by and protecting your daughter and grandchildren....Duggars, Kellers, and all of you in this cult, realize that your "perfect system" doesn't work. Use the brains God gave you.

sandi said...

Heart in FL,yes and it certainly looks worse on them to condone their gkids living with a pedo.While the fundies might not care,and divorce looks worse on them,the outside world doesn't think so,and we are majority.I didn't think the Kellers were that cold,but I was wrong,if that is indeed how they feel

Ellyn said...

Has Jessa Seewald posted anymore inane, incorrect, inaccurate & Never researched opinions about subjects of which she is clueless? Jessa's motto should be "welcome to Stupidville". Now that's accurate.

cat said...

I was reading that in Michelle's mouse voice and laughing. .

Bobbi said...

When TLC decided to produce the Duggar family & their many children as a reality TV program, I don't believe they had any clue as to what they unleashed particularly with Jim Bob narcissist Duggar. In fact, I doubt TLC conducted any research into the background of the Duggar family. As a result, TLC opened a huge can of worms. Initially as part of the contract signed by Jim Bob, TLC should have included a clause about the Gothard Cult. With regard to the Duggars, I believe more cans if worms are yet to be revealed. With this latest Josh Duggar scandal, the Duggars continue to dig thenselves deeper into sexual perversion. Past hustory has shown that Acts of sexual perversion is always a factor embedded within any Cult. This Gothard Cult is no different.

Meme said...

Heart in Florida, sorry to be ignorant. Where did "Daniel" post? Are his posts on this website? Thanks so much.

Chloe said...

Heart in FL, Clearly & as usual, Michelle Duggar yet again Lied. The quiverful movement is supported 109% by Bill Gothard. The Duggars just refuse to admit what the whole world knows is that the Duggars & Bates are indoctrinated into the Gothard Cult. Why do these families take the cowards way out & refuse to admit or rather deny this Fact!!

Cedric said...

Anna has always desired to be a clone of Michelle disgusting & sick as this is it's true. Anna is well somewhat dimwitted. Josh could continue his porn ways, get caught, then ask Firgiveness, & then repeat again. Each time, Anna will continue to forgive him & turn a blinds eye to his extra marital affairs. Josh's parents will turn a blinds eye as will Anna's parents. This will continue until Anna is so broken down, worn out & her inner self is destroyed. Also, Anna will believe that the cure for Josh is more children. That's just sick & not a cure. Josh absolutely needs Professional help from a Licensed Therapist that is not affiliated with the Gothard Cult. However, I really don't believe Josh will get the help he needs. The Duggar & Keller parents will probably send Josh to a member of this Cult church who is another construction worker. These Fundies don't think rationally or logically. They pour God on everything & then pretend incidents of this nature away. Eventually this stops working for these Cult followers & then the *#%^ will hit the fan. I still believe deep down Josh wants to get away from this Gothard Cukt, from Anna, his children & start a new life. I could be incorrect but his actions speak louder than words.

KimmieH said...

This situation with Josh or rather Cult culture happens when one is not permitted to date but court & marry the first crush or the first girl or boy that comes along. Have never bought the Gothard Cult fractured logic of "dating with a purpose". No, not buying it.

Ellyn said...

Jim Bob & Michelle blaming Anna. Stupid is as stupid does. Jim Bob & Michelle do stupid very well.

Ellyn said...

Why is the media & People magazine so enamored with the Duggars. Other than continual pregnancy, courting, areanged marriage, the Duggars have Nothing to share with the world. Their kids are undereducated, Jim Bob doesn't work, Michelle is a lousy Mother, they are not intelligent, they are obsessed with sex meaning always telling their kids sex is a big no, no until marriage resulting in their eldest sons molestation of his sisters & now Josh cheating on his wife & addicted to porn. It's comparable to a bad & boring Soap Opera or bad film. The Duggars will continue to isolate & imprison their children & Adult children. This situation will never change until someone from one if the agencies in Arkansas or law enforcement intervenes & this intervention of the Duggar Kids needs to happen & quickly.

Amy said...

Is anyone else surprised that he admitted to this so quickly? It seems very un-Duggar like to admit any kind of guilt, even when caught red handed. I was expecting them to cry conspiracy, lies, and/or "demonic assignment purposing to hurt their family"...demons are a favorite scapegoat of fundies. Granted, his initial statement referenced satan, but I really thought they'd take it one step further and claim that all of the leaked information was a fabrication and outright lie perpetrated by a secular media to bring down their ministry. Their powers of denial are very strong, surprises me that he copped to anything. Makes me wonder if there are even more scandals or people threatening to crawl out of the woodwork that he had no other choice.

Annie said...

To Meme:
Daniel Keller had some posts that were on Facebook. At least they were reportedly from him. He is very supportive of Anna and wants to get her out of her situation and away from the "pig" Joshie. I agree that Daniel was more correct to stand behind her and had an answer for anyone that tried to come at him with the Bible or other nonsense. He just wants his sister and the kids safe. He even rips on their parents, the Kellers-not the Duggars. I had wondered where they stood in all of this.

The only way this is going to resolve and survive is if Joshie has FULL accountability to Anna and a therapist for ALL of his actions and is completely honest with her everyday about every single thing that he does. And does this for a very long time. Can anyone out there see him doing that? He wouldn't have come clean if the website hadn't have been
hacked and the info leaked. I love when people like him ask everyone in general for forgiveness. We don't have to forgive. He didn't do anything to us. Anna and the children were the ones he victimized the most. He needs to make restitution to them and that is going to take a long time. Karma is a universal law and is in every religion and philosophy in the world. He will get his in the end, just wait and see if he doesn't.

I just honestly can't imagine going through this with a newborn, 3 other kids and no marketable skills. I agree that she is a prime candidate for post-partum depression. Too bad nobody will be watching her for that.

Does anyone know what they are living on?

Ellyn said...

OMG the parade of hits regarding further information about Josh's scandal just keep in coming. Difficult to keep up with this dirty family.

bigmommakat said...

Amy, I was thinking the same thing; why did Josh confess so quickly? Very strange behavior from him. It seems crazy but, could this be a diversionary tactic?
Now everyone is focused on this scandal and obsessing over his wife. Better to be a cheating adulterer than a sick child molester, especially of your little sisters.
No?

Sharla said...

And so it continues:
http://radaronline.com/celebrity-news/josh-duggar-porn-star-danica-dillon-cheating-hotel/

Anonymous said...

Meme,
Type in 'google': Daniel Keller angry with Josh Duggar

I understand Daniel's outrage. I 'was' initially a bit 'taken back' regarding a couple of the words he used in his attack on Josh's character. Daniel is also a christian. However, no doubt his feelings cannot be restrained with respect to this horrific revelation of immorality and its ultimate effects on his precious sister. :+(
I do feel that Daniel is entitled to be righteously angry!!

I, too, am beyond concerned for Anna's 'state of mind'. Yes, she is naive, having been reared under the legalism of the *Gothard cult. Knowing nothing else, via her parents, Josh and the Duggar family influence, she has blindly followed this 'checklist based approach to Christianity' with its hierarchical and patriarchal system of control. She is eons away from the realization that its methodology is manipulative and unsuccessful.

Daniel KNOWS that Anna and the children have NO WAY OUT other than for them to be PLUCKED from this emotionally abusive environment. Psychologically, it is impossible for her to understand any mind bending restriction and dominance that inundates her. She, and those of her ilk, have been submerged in it far too long.
The veiled supremacy of *Gothard's 'umbrella of protection' may forever escape those who have long been indoctrinated into its web of directives. :+(

She is as INNOCENT as her children and needs our prayers. Without God's intervention, 'she will persist in a relentless quest of rectifying what she assigns as her responsibility for his infidelity'!! This could ONLY mean a more intense humbling and soul searching before God and her husband. Continued compliance of or 'perhaps even initiating frequent intimate encounters' may ensue. Of course the end result would be continued pregnancies (as she condemns herself in an unending spiral of degradation to which she was never culpable!!) Oh! the added humiliation with the realization that the whole world knows and is watching!!!!!

(I am personally familiar with the *Gothard 'standard of righteouness' with its 'assassination of a woman's spirit'.)

(It 'appears' Josh only begged forgiveness after his wickedness was discovered.)

Without a doubt, he must remove himself from his family for an extended period involving APPROPRIATE, FERVENT COUNSELING. If he does not PURPOSE to accomplish this, many do not believe it is possible for him to even begin to reconcile the shambles he has made of his life and attempt to temper the pain he has caused most specifically to Anna, the help-mate God has so graciously allowed him.

In His Grip...

Bubbles said...

I think there is even more to come on Josh, and that's why he jumped out with this "apology" so quick. I'm just waiting for it to be news that he had sex with a man...

Amy said...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3210828/Porn-star-says-terrifying-rough-sex-disgraced-Josh-Duggar-TWICE-wife-pregnant-fourth-child.html

I feel like it's only a matter of time before a sex tape surfaces. I'm not generally a praying woman, but I'm currently praying when that inevitability comes to pass I'll have the strength not to indulge curiosity or my propensity to rubber neck. Because those will likely be the kind of things that once you see, you can never UNsee. I don't want to live a life where images of that doughy pile of self righteous smuggary having rough sex are burned into my brain.

MelodyJ said...

The Duggars have released a statement saying that Josh has allegedly checked himself into a "long term treatment center" and that Anna is also supposedly receiving counseling too. http://www.duggarfamily.com/2015/8/duggar-family-statement

professor said...

Here is the problem with the whole sordid situation. Josh would still be working in DC, his parents would still be on TV and they would still be raking in $$, if the molestation charges and Ashley Mad. situation had not surfaced. He/the family is not sorry he did these things; they are sorry it became public-huge difference!

Rob said...

Regarding MelodyJ's shared link to the Duggar family statement...Forgive me if I seem VERY skeptical about the nature and qualifications of this "Long term facility". Josh's sexual disorder is not going to be treatable with doing construction work. The impulses he endures and how he acts on them are SERIOUS! What he requires is intense psychiatric intervention. There is no over night quick cure here. I feel insulted by the family statement once again with a tone of all is well and will be easily taken care of. So light, so airy, so "nothing to see here" in scope.

News flash JB and Michelle what you have is a sexually addicted deviant son of YOUR making. You have 18 other children you are still imbuing with your distorted views. Get a clue you two and educate yourselves on the proper way to raise a family. You both need extensive councelling as well. The apple doesn't fall far from the tree so let's look at the tree too.

KimmieH said...

So construction workers have long term treatment centers? Sorry, just difficult to believe anything the Duggars say or do especially narcissistic Jim Bob.

Aunt Bea said...

MelodyJ: The Duggars said that Anna was receiving "counsel"..could be very different from counseling..., sadly. I'd like to know WHO is giving her counsel?
I shudder to think who it could be.
If those two idiot parents sent Josh to yet another Gothard-type rehab place, I'll eat my hat! You can't "bend a fully grown tree in a direction other than the direction it has grown in"..Josh, who is a man of 27, has clearly made a personal choice, at best, that he doesn't subscribe to the strict demands of his parents' religious beliefs and lifestyle. Perhaps the guy merely wanted to live a more conventional Christian life, but felt pressured to not pursue any variation from his parents' lives....so he overcompensated with this scandal stuff....Parents: look at your lifestyle and re-evaluate the extreme hold you have on your kids who also are adults.

Goodie said...

I wish that someone would bring charges against Josh whereas he would be sent to prison and then "counseled" by Anna's father, who counsel those in prison. What a joke that would be!

In regard to Jana, I think that poor child is too emotionally damaged to ever have a normal relationship; she appears to be so afraid of the "outside world" and of 'her own shadow.' She is the typical candidate to be in an abusive relationship, yet to smile sweetly through it all

I abhor what Jim Bob and Michelle have done to their children!

Marie said...

If Josh was truly repentant, he would ask Anna for a divorce. Without the creep and his sins, she could lead a safer better life and protect her children.

Aunt Bea said...

The way Josh has been living has nothing to do with religion. His parents sent him to the wrong type of facility........AGAIN, stupid parents.

Debbie said...

I agree 10000% Aunt Bea! WRONG type of facility again! Does anyone know if the authorities have been able to check on the kids in the family? It also appears that the Duggar's have not been following the Arkansas laws in homeschooling. Can't someone do something about that. Maybe since all this has come out Jim Bob will loose the influence he seems to have in the state legislature.

Sdkoh said...



A few months ago I saw Drew Pinsky on CNN when the initial molestation charges were made public. CNN ran footage from the show of Josh Duggar holding his daughter on his lap. Pinsky shook his head and stated (paraphrased) "That makes me very uncomfortable."

How far does this go? Apparently, we have yet to find the end--the bill seems to grow: Two Ashley Madison accounts, several molested sisters, porn "addiction", etc.

If Josh is going for "treatment" to a "bible-based" program is he going to room with Jimmy Swaggart? Ted Haggart? Other less public "family values" guys who are child molesters? Do they sit around and read the bible or just run laps in back of the facility? Wait--can't they do that in prison after conviction for their crimes?

I worry about the Duggar kids at home. No money any more. No guidance, no education, no chance. Will Arkansas come in and remove them?

MelodyJ said...

Rob, I whole heartedly agree that Josh's problems are very serious. Josh's behavior places Anna at rish for STD's and HIV. Josh could also pick up the HPV virus and give it to Anna. HPV could put Anna at high risk of getting uterine or cervical cancer. Anna's life and health could be at risk. Anna needs to get herself thouroughly checked out for STD's and HIV by a doctor. She can't trust Josh to have himself checked out for STD's. The guy needs serious help by trained professionals and even then sexual addiction is hard to overcome. I too am skeptical about what kind of facility Josh is in and what kind of counseling Anna is receiving. That's why I said that Josh allegedly checked himself into a treatment center and that Anna is supposedly getting counseling. There are unconfirmed reports in the Daily Mail (UK) that Josh may be in some treatment center in Rockford IL. I contend that Jim Bob and Michelle need counseling to understand what is going on with Josh. The adult Duggar childeren need counseling too. This is such a mess.

Bobbi said...

Even though via email I have contacted several agencies in Arkansas, nothing is happening. Could it be these agencies are fearful of Jim Bob Duggar? I am sure the people employed by these agencies watch the news, are on social media. How could they not be aware of this latest Duggar mess?Yet, they do nothing. Are the laws governing Arkansas that lax? Something's rotten in Denmark or rather Arkansas & I believe Jim Bob Duggar may be the bottom of the source. If it were any other family, I am confident These agencies in Arkansas would be all over it. Why are the Duggar getting a pass? That Gothard ATI homeschooling program is a big Joke. It's obvious from the manner in which each Duggar kid speaks they are sorely undereducated. Then there's Jessa Seewald & her continual inaccurate, uninformed rants about subjects to which she is clueless. Followed by presenting herself to the world as a foolish dimwit. I live East Coast. If I lived close to Arkansas, I would physically take it upon myself to visit each of these agencies in person. Something needs to be done. The Gothard Cult needs to be exposed by every media network.

Living in Indy said...

I truly believe Jish wants a divorce. I believe too that he's afraid to ask simply because of the Cult in which he was raised. If he's forced to remain in the marriage, it could have disasterous consequences. I hope it doesn't go to that level. Josh will be happier as a single person. I agree in that he's definitely in the wrong rehab facility. The Duggars such a pitiful mess.

Anna is not responsible for Josh's sins said...

Bobbi,allegations have to be recent,and from a credible source,as in someone who knows the family very well.What Josh did in the past as a teen can't be considered legally now.And he wasn't caught with child porn,or with anyone underage,so again,nothing can be done.
The homeschooling is the only thing they (Duggar Sr's) don't seem to be complying with,and my guess is it's lack of funds.I was reminded of that when I needed an extra pencil for jury duty,and was told they didn't have the funds for extras.You'd be surprised how tight some of the budgets are nowadays

MelodyJ said...

Entertainment Tonight has a write up on the facility that Josh may be staying at. Jim Bob and Michelle spoke there earlier this year. http://www.etonline.com/news/170794_inside_josh_duggar_possible_christian_rehab_center_reformers_unanimous/

Helen Crump said...

Why can't the Duggar parents accept the fact that one of their grown children, who is married and 27 years old, simply doesn't subscribe to their extreme religious beliefs and leave it at that? They are "full of it" when they said their children had the freedom to decide for themselves when they were grown...obviously they DON'T.

flowerchild said...

I think that Josh is rebelling against his family's lifestyle, and is doing anything that can get him out. He didn't get to date, go to college, or have young adult life before settling down and marrying. He married so young and started having babies. I think he's doing it in the most destructive way, but he wants his own life now. I had just hoped he and Anna could've separated from Jim Bob and had a normal married Christian life.

Cedric said...

Flowerchild, Even though for a brief time Josh & Anna lived far from Arkansas, the controlling arms of Jim Bob extended to DC. I've never seen a parent so obsessed with control over his married children to the point where it is very disturbing, invasive & sick. Jim Bob definitely needs professional therapy as does Michelle. However, Jim Bob is such a narcissist he believes he's above therapy & everyone else throughout the world . Fact: Jim Bob isn't a decent or nice person. Jim Bob's attempts to cover up his nasty & controlling behavior with humor is not working for him. Jim Bob isn't smart enough to carry off this facade he's too transparent.

Chloe said...

Jim Bob & Michelle are the poster parents for lies, deception & dishonesty. They fool no one. They fool themselves.

KimmieH said...

Several points Josh needs to learn while in therapy...

Listen
Learn
Apply
Grow Up
Become educated
Find a real career
Leave the marriage

Ellyn said...

The manner in which Jim Bob & Michelle have raised or are raising their children is an absolute recipe for disaster. Josh is an example of the manner in which his dumb Fundie parents raised him. When a child is isolated, not permitted to have friends other than siblings, is continually bombarded stating sex is wrong & evil, not allowed to attend public school, not allowed to date, (only court), forced religion then the end result will often be rebellion. I don't really see the Duggar daughters rebelling. However with nine remaing Duggar boys still living on the Duggar compound, this same scenario will probably re occur. I've often wondered about John David who is age 25 or 26? JD doesn't seem interested in courting. JD apeears to be more of a loner. I am curious if JD still lives in the Duggar compound. It would be difficult for a young man of his age to share a bedroom with much younger Duggar boys. I've never understood why the Duggar parents never considered privacy for their older children. However thinking about their children in general isn't part of Jim Bob & Michelle's thought process. Just crank out baby after baby as if its a competition within the Gothard Cult. In other words, both Jim Bob & Michelle relate to their children as simply objects.

KatieP said...

It is extremely difficult to break through to the minds if people who are indoctrinated within a Cult as are Jim Bob & Michelle. Their minds have been brainwashed. The only way these two Fundies will ever "get it" is via de-programming. I don't foresee this happening with these two as they are too far gone within this moronic & reprehensible Gothard Cult.

Heartin Florida said...

I wish that Josh and Anna could have had a real talk. Josh would have had to bring it up and really converse with Anna, perhaps for the first time EVER. He needed to let her know that he really, truly didn't agree with their parents' extreme views of Christianity and really wanted a more mainstream lifestyle with her. The real sadness here and "scandal" is that these two couldn't speak to each other truthfully and from the heart. That's what married people do. It's even more of a shame that this guy could never have had that same talk with his parents years ago. I'm sure Josh believes in Jesus like most Christians do and believes in God, etc., but just wasn't cut out to be so stifled and isolated his whole life. I think that rigid life took a toll on him many years ago. I'm in NO WAY excusing Josh's actions these past years, but the true blame lies with his parents who never really gave him a chance; also they give their other children the same "no chance" at being themselves. Unless Josh realizes that he has been living an "extreme life" also, but in the other end of the spectrum in comparison to his parents and most people, AND Anna is willing to "loosen up" and join the mainstream Christian community these two don't have a chance.

Living in Indy said...

Add to that list Bolt from the insanity of the Gothard Cult!!!

Heart in Florida said...

Living in Indy: Yes, when I posted "loosen up and join the mainstream Christian community," that's what I meant....and all that it includes.

Living in Indy said...

Heart in FL, Thanks for the confirmation. Much appreciated.

Rob said...

In regards to Ellyn's question..." I am curious if JD still lives in the Duggar compound". Yes he does as does everyone of the unmarried adult children. Jimbob expounded in one of the episodes that he does not believe in persons living away from their parents until they marry because the parental home life provides "certain protections living alone does not provide." Knowing what we do now about the life in that home it can be argued Jimbob did NOT properly protect his children. That is a false theory in addition to being very harmful emotionally and socially. The best we can hope for at this stage is that somehow JD,Jana, Jinger and perhaps Josiah and Joseph form some sort of coalition and get a place of their own and make a clean break. They'd have to get clean out of Arkansas. They are products of a cult with rabid followers who'd try to find them and coerce, urge or force them to return to the family compound. Considering they have some of the most recognizable faces in the country their whereabouts would be difficult to hide.

Cedric said...

Jim Bib is an abusive & very sick person. I have tried to realize how life would be living as an Adult child of Jim Bob & Michelle & knowing the only way I would be permitted to leave my childhood home would be through marriage. How awful & oppressive it's basically prison. What if some of these Duggar Adult kids do not desire to marry or continually reproduce children? When will law enforcement or some of the agencies in Arkansas intervene on behalf of these Adult Duggar kids? Also, the fact that Jim Bob & Michelle Purposely Chose to undereducate their kids is another form of abuse. After researching the ATI method of homeschooling, I've discovered this program only meets just barely the basic requirements of homeschooling governed by the rules for homeschooling within the state of Arkansas. How is it the Duggar parents are getting away with this ATI crap? Why isn't the Arkansas state Board of Education that governs the rules of homeschooling not calling the Duggar parents to task? I just don't understand why the Duggars are given a pass? Perhaps the Arkansas Board of Education should be investigated.

Percolating Petals said...

I thought the "Breaking the Silence" episode presented good (although sad) information. Having the Duggar girls there seemed way out of place and pointless. The victims who bravely told their stories did far more did far more to educate!

Dee said...

I made the decision to watch the Breaking the Silence documentary on TLC when I heard it was being made.
I really wanted to see what TLC would do with this opportunity and if they would allow the Duggars to hijack the show for their own personal agenda.
Happily, I found that really wasn't the case. Jill, Jessa, and Michelle were shown attending a workshop given by Darkness to Light. They were in a roomful of people listening to facts about child sexual abuse and learning five steps that are vital in prevention and for dealing with this issue.
They were actually not shown for more than about 3-4 minutes total.
If anything, their presence in this documentary underscored how dysfunctional this family is and how huge the disconnect is with these people.
All around them in this program were people who are BRAVE. Brave enough to come forward and share their stories and how they are working to bring awareness to this issue and to help others. In contrast, the Duggar women came across as robotic and rehearsed. As we have all seen, they seem to know what they *should* say, but they simply cannot put any genuine feeling behind it. They paid lip service to this issue, but it was very apparent, at least to me, that they don't take it seriously.
I found Jessa's response to be the most bizarre. We are used to Michelle doing her little Minnie Mouse fembot routine, spouting those 'right' words. Jessa, however, was just this side shy of manic. Eyes bugged out, grinning wildly (and horribly inappropriately), and yapping about being pregnant. Yes, we get it, Jessa. You're pregnant and you would dearly love to have a platform from which to broadcast this fact, and every other second, of your life ala Daddy Duggar. This show, however, is about CHILD SEXUAL ABUSE. Let's stay on track. Impossible for these people.
The rest of the people however....WOW. Powerful, POWERFUL stuff. Lots of great information. I saw people young and old who will have my lifelong admiration.
Did the Duggars need to be on this show? Did they add to it? To both: a resounding NO.
However, they were not allowed to make it all about them and if anything they were given just enough time to once again make people wonder what in the heck is wrong with these people.
I just wish Michelle would have listened and absorbed even a second of that workshop. She still has 16 kids at home who desperately need her. I just don't have any faith that she could ever rise to that challenge. Her children, and those in similiar circumstances, are in my prayers.

sandi said...

Re: When will law enforcement or some of the agencies in Arkansas intervene on behalf of these Adult Duggar kids

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The only thing they can do for the adult offspring in the Duggar home, is to be a police escort to any of those who wish to leave,and the adults themselves would be the ones who need to call the police.I think JB could and probably would,file a lawsuit if anyone tried to intervene,unless there was something illegal going on in the house that would give police reason to reach out and offer help to them.Sad but true,that's the way it works

Dar said...

I, too, thought the program was excellent. The statistics are overwhelming, but with information and powerful presentations from survivors like those on the show, things will improve. These people were so brave and, one none of them were focused on self. Their main goal is helping other people who suffered abuse.

I don't know why the Duggars were there. They did not contribute anything substantial. I just hope that TLC wasn't "testing the waters", so to speak. I personally think they attended in the hope that people would respond and inundate TLC requesting their return. Those girls could have added a lot there and Michelle, as a mom, as well. They really did not want to discuss what happened to them. I really think they just want their lives on TV back JMHO

Marie said...

The women did not fit in the documentary. TLC should be embarrassed to have them talk knowing the family returned Josh to the same cult treatment program that helped hiM so well when he was a teen.

TLC had time to edit the Duggars out.

Ellyn said...

Last week while shopping for groceries, at the checkout place, once again I noticed the Duggars on the cover of People's magazine. I picked up the magazine, turned it around to the reverse side & returned the mag to the rack. As long as People. Magazine continues to feature the Duggars on the cover, we will continue to Boycott this rag. I hope many of you will join me in the boycott of People magazine until they cease featuring the dumb Duggars.

Judy said...

I made the decision not to watch the special. I felt like it was giving TLC an out for spending the last ten years highlighting the Duggars.

Heart in Florida said...

Did any of the Duggars belong in that special? NO. As my mother used to say they were like "parsley on the plate.

I shook my head that yet again, Jessa, needed to mention that she was pregnant and that she "hoped for MORE kids" in the future...don't these adults know how to behave in public?

Why did Michelle, yet again, have to escort her adult, married daughters to that meeting in the first place? We all know, her mind was NOT on topic, nor did she pay attention to any of it and retained nothing from it.

TotallyANanny said...

I forgot to DVR the special and from what people have been saying it was actually pretty good to watch (and not a Duggar thing). It doesn't seem to be re-airing on TLC or on their website. Any idea where I can watch it?

Jak&Jil said...

Have to agree with everyone that Jill, Jessa and Michelle did not belong in that special. I felt that everything that was said at the meeting was completely lost on them which makes me wonder about their intelligence. Michelle using the "encouragement" word, Jessa blathering about being pregnant and Jill talking about setting boundaries. Didn't they say those same things in the Megyn Kelly interview? TLC had plenty of time to remove their "fluff" and replace it with something more relevant to the special. Disappointed in TLC.

Michelle said...

The only way police could intervene on behalf of the adult children is if one of the adult children called and said they wish to leave and are being held against their will. Unless they have cause to think something illegal is happening, there is nothing the police can do.

Syndee said...

I thought it was weird that Jill almost seemed to be smiling when she talked. There was a question maybe about minimizing the opportunities. She spoke up and added something like, maybe we could make sure we don't get in those situations. It sounded like she was referring to herself and not a kid, and also it sounded a little like blame the victim. I'm not totally sure what was said, I wish I had recorded it because I'd like to hear that again. But alas, I couldn't take any more so I shut the tv off after that.

frances said...

Well, I didn't watch the program but it sounds like those who participated and spoke out were very courageous and well worth listening to.

I don't know why the Duggar women would have been given any input on the program. Sounds like they contributed nothing of relevance or value to the subject (no surprise there). More likely it was just a grab for camera time and some personal attention - I guess they are still desperate to hang onto their reality "star" status. Do we really need to know for the upteenth time that Jessa is pregnant?? It bothers me that while several media outlets posted short articles about the program after it aired, most also ran a large picture either of the Duggars or of just the two girls alongside as if Jill/Jessa had somehow been the main focus of the special and their opinions were what people would want to know about.

I am so tired of the self-absorbed, self-centered, and publicity-seeking Duggars. TLC should never have included them in this documentary.

jentru said...

I actually read the latest People article (in a waiting room) and FINALLY People is bringing out some of the truth about the Duggars! They actually mentioned Gothard!

puddin said...

I'm wondering how they can keep out of those "situations"? Like just how would a 5 year old just know its a "situation about to happen" Bla Bla Bla. The Duggars are just down right crazy they should shut-up and get back on the compound. We the viewing audience are tired of their BS and it stinks to high heaven. Jessa sure is hung up on herself as per usual. Like usual they think having babies is only done by them. *SNARK*

Josie said...

I was so weirded out by the Duggar women in this special. They all had big smiles on their faces like they were talking about ice cream flavours instead of childhood sexual abuse. When Michelle said she's so happy that she got to be here with her girls, you'd think they were at the nail salon. No mother should be "happy" to be bringing her daughters to a support group for sexually exploited children!

I definitely picked up on Jill's victim blaming. She spoke about what parents could do to protect their kids from being abused but never said anything about teaching their children to respect the boundaries of others. These people are so warped!

KimmieH said...

I think Jim Bob Duggar is the dumbest man on earth. Each time he would laugh I just wanted to hurl. The guy is clueles, an abuser, a narcissist, self absorbed incredible Loser!

Sigh said...

" I picked up the magazine, turned it around to the reverse side & returned the mag to the rack."

Funny. I've been doing this for months whenever I see something NEGATIVE about the Duggars on the cover of any magazine. I get no enjoyment out the misfortunes of others, and see no need for it to be shoved in everyone's faces. Unlike a tv, which can easily be turned off, or an internet page that can simply not be visited, magazine racks at the check out line are hard to miss. Thanks for helping to cover their misfortunes and the heartless things printed on the magazine covers. I'm sure the Duggars appreciate this too. Its not something we should be enjoying!

DOUBLE Misplaced Forgiveness said...

Turning the mags with Duggars around for any reason probably doesn't last long;I know as a former cashier I was always fixing them back,as it was part of my job to keep my aisle neat