First Duggar "Special" - December 13, 2015

The allegedly three specials begin airing in December.  They've already dragged Anna into the first promo.

Jill & Jessa: Counting On, Episode 1, December 13, 2015, 8:00 PM, 90 minutes.

Ratings:  2.220 M viewers and a .77 rating.

From Discovery:



Jill and Jessa: Counting on Celebrates New Life and Adventure

The three-part special begins December 13th at 8/7c

TLC follows the next chapter of Jill (Duggar) Dillard and Jessa (Duggar) Seewald in a new three-part special JILL AND JESSA: COUNTING ON beginning Sunday, December 13th at 8/7c with a 90-minute premiere. The subsequent specials will air at 9/8c on December 20th and 27th. The specials center around the two young women and their ever-changing lives as Jill moves to Central America with her family and Jessa starts one of her own. In the three specials, viewers catch up with the family through the eyes of Jill and Jessa as they get prepared for the exciting milestones ahead. With moves and babies on the horizon, preparations are underway in Arkansas and abroad!
As Jill prepares to move her family to Central America for missionary work, she and Derick impart some parental advice to Jessa and Ben while they get ready to bring their first child into the world. Baby buzz is all around the Seewald household as the family plans a baby shower, decorates the nursery and gathers the last few essentials for Baby Seewald.  Viewers also get an inside look at Jessa’s dramatic labor and delivery and her first days at home with her newborn son. Jill and Derick celebrate with friends and family before heading to Central America, and viewers follow their journey south of the border to walk in their shoes as they get their life set up in their new home.
Also, for the first time, several family members including Anna Duggar speak out and address the difficult summer the family faced. The emotional and candid interviews highlight how the family continues to move forward from a time of turmoil to a time of celebration. After a life-changing few months, these specials give Jill and Jessa an opportunity to share their story and begin celebrating big moments in their lives.
Join the conversation on social media by using the hashtag #JillandJessa, ‘Like’ the show on Facebook and watch more video on TLC.com/CountingOn.

JILL AND JESSA: COUNTING ON is produced by Figure 8 Films for TLC.

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Ruby said...

Bringing Anna into the show is so wrong on so many levels. I am speechless.

cat said...

Im thinking they are bringing Anna on because the backlash the show is getting and they think bringing her on to 'perform' will bring more viewers. I guess she cant say no to them or really is no different than the rest. I have a feeling she will be apologizing for not being a good wife and being there for him every second.

Just Plain Offended said...

Bringing Anna on WILL bring in more viewers, and some of them will stay. TLC has no moral compass whatsoever to use her for ratings. I wonder if she has ever said no to whomever she perceives as her authority figures in her entire life.

s said...

Using Anna's pain for ratings. Why am I not really surprised? Jim Bob and Michelle disgust me.

Syndee said...

All along it was, poor poor Anna, the ultimate victim, but if in the end she never spoke about the incident because she herself was holding out for bucks from the show by doing an "exclusive," then she is as bad as the rest of them.

Aimee said...

I just saw the first promo with Anna last night. What a brilliant PR move by TLC and the family. I mean thanks to constantly being updated on Jill/Jessa's instagrams, websites, facebook pages, AND People exclusives - there is not much that we don't already know. Why tune in? But now, the silent Anna speaks! People will "have" to see this! I also think it will give us an idea of how indoctrinated Anna really is. For all those who think she will leave, I have a feeling these specials will show us just how much she will stay.

Marie said...

TCL has been listening to our comments on watching the boring sisters show. TCL decided to make it more exciting by bring in sex and scandal by exploiting anna.

Heart in Florida said...

Sadly, Anna is dependent on Jim Bob Duggar now, before she was dependent on Josh, and before that, her father, Mike Keller. Certainly, she is going to whatever Jim Bob tells her to do...whatever it is, speak, don't speak, stay here, stay there...etc. She can't refuse the man because then she will be in the street with 4 kids. I call that emotional and lifestyle blackmail in this system. Anna needs to mature and grow up already, she is an ADULT for many years now.
I'm not looking forward to this spectacle of a show, don't know why TLC just didn't dump the Duggars..they're re-wrapping 19 Kids and...in new gift wrap and calling it something else. We really don't want to see these two idiot 20something children, Jill and Jessa, NOT have to grow up and still rely on publicity and a TV show to meet their financial needs. Jessa should have married A MAN, who had an education and a job that at least could have supported her household in the free mold house. That is already quite a leg up in life to start out. Jill had that already in Derick, and for some unknown "spiritual calling" threw it out the window. Just not a smart move at this time in their lives if you ask me. Jill had a good present and an even better future with Derick at WalMart and the stable hours and benefits it brought her household. Just who paid for her botched up delivery of Israel? I'll tell you, his medical insurance plan through WALMART, that's who. If she were to be just as unprepared for the next "blessing", who was going to pay for her ED and emergency C-section next time? She is a giggly 13 year old playing house. Jessa, is a cold, distant, "we're all hellbound" except for ME and Be, of course" dictatorial diva. All under God, of course.

Denisean said...

Doesn't everyone in the world already know that anything Anna says will be totally scripted BS. Why bother watching? And there will be a thousand articles about it online the next day.

Wednesday said...

TLC is still supporting Josh Duggar via Anna. Sickening.

Hello said...

I believe behind closed doors Anna was blamed for Josh's cheating on her. She has probably been told that she didn't make herself available for him even though she had three young children and was pregnant with the fourth. Michelle has said that the girls should always be available to meet their husband's needs no matter what. I would like to know what what happen if one of the girls cheated on their spouse. They would no doubt be blamed since they believe men have no self control. Josh probably believes the women he was with are to blame even though he sought them out. I hope Anna got tested for STDs, but I doubt it. I beleive she will stay with Josh and continue to have more children with him. Anna will go on tv and say that she has forgiven Josh and will take the blame for his cheating.
The girls always hang onto their husbands like they believe if they are not with them at all times, they will disappear. When Derick worked for Walmart, Jill made sure she took him to work, met him for lunch and picked him up. She acted like a teenager playing house and couldn't deal with being away from him for any amount of time.
Jessa is just all about Jessa. Will they film her taking selfies all day? Ben apparently has no job except as Jimboob's gopher.

Quiana said...

Ugh. What are these specials supposed to be about anyway. Do they still have backers and advertisers for the shows or is everyone back on the Duggar bandwagon all of a sudden

Auggie said...

Has anyone noticed on Jessa's FB page, whenever she posts anything there's always an Evie Gardener who posts a link to the Duggar Sisters' page? I suspect Evie Gardener (Eve from the Garden of Eden) is another Duggar sister or another Jessa FB account. Too funny - "y'all".

lizzy10 said...

To those saying Anna needs to "mature, grow up, grow a backbone" etc. I have this to say; Anna is a product of her upbringing. Likely she was blanket trained, she had 15 mins weekly to express her feelings and was raised to believe that she should defer to male authority. How the heck is she supposed to go against all that? Women not raised like this don't leave abusive situations (and her situation is abusive), why are so many dismayed she doesn't? She is probably being told daily it's her fault. I'm not sure I'd have the backbone to go against daily lectures on my failures as a wife, how can we fault her? I truly believe the children born into this cult deserve nothing but pity, especially Anna who has done everything required of her and still ended up with people blaming her for a husband who is a jerk. Let's put down the switches we are slapping her with for trying to stay ON the blanket, if we don't we're no better then her in laws and parents.

Special Ed Lady said...

This whole this is a valuable lesson for young women. Get yourself an education before getting married and having kids. Anna would be in a much more stable place if she had an education. She could take her kids and go where ever she wanted.

Syndee said...

Aside from all the drama of Josh, etc. I do wonder what interest there will be in the girls' lives. If you think about it (and try to suppress the ick feeling), Michelle actually had a lot going for her when the first specials came out. A mother of 14 was actually pretty unusual, and had an interesting way of organizing the household (before anyone really knew it was cult-driven.) So I can see why they got a show in the first place.

But Jessa or Jill themselves, what do they really have. Only one kid apiece, no interesting jobs or careers (if you don't count the ministry or whatever it's called), or no other hook like an unusual physical attribute or the mental challenges of the hoarders. Just two uneducated sisters that happened to come out of a large family. They still have that purity angle, but Josh kind of put that in question too.

So how incredibly dull can it be?

Anna is not responsible for Josh's sins said...

TLC has hit the bottom of the barrel to bring in and exploit Anna in such a manner.SICK

Sad Lisa said...

Anna didnt have to participate if she didnt want to.

lilwbprincess said...

Just saw the promo with Anna. That last shot of her makes her look completely broken - as she should. I was pleased to see that "real" emotion, instead of some stupid, forced smile, and her being "gracious". Who knows what the special will be filled with though...

Helen Crump said...

If you notice in all this "Josh mess", that the Duggar parents OR Anna have not yet, to date, said just who they blame, if anyone, for Josh's problems. I find that typical of them. Things come out in public, yet these people like the attention, but fail to answer any questions that are being asked about it. Do they blame Anna in any way for this situation? Does Anna really blame herself for any of it? Is Anna being "advised" to stay in the marriage or not? The Duggars are great at dancing around issues...yet they post "info" about breakfast they ate for all to see.

pretty girl said...

anyone notice how phoney the viedo is? I do feel for Anna. if this was my daughter I would get her and those kids out of there so fast they would not know what happened. but we know that will not happen. Josh is like tiger woods and needs deep help. I will not be watching this show or anyother duggar show. this family is just awful. and the paine family should be ashamed of themselves for letting their daughter into that home. I would never let my kid anywhere near the duggars.

Heart in Florida said...

"Sad Lisa"...I beg to differ with you on Anna's choice to appear or not. I do believe that she had to appear when "asked" by the Duggars. This family doesn't have the luxury of choice in anything. Don't believe them if they say they do. If this were true, Josh would have been totally comfortable years ago to let his parents know that he just doesn't buy in to their over the top strict belief system and lifestyle, and when he was a married guy of 21, he would have been free to loosen up a bit in his own home with Anna and NOT RISK being ostracized by his family or the Kellers for it. He obviously was pressured to continue on just like h is parents.
Anna doesn't have a choice in anything, really. She is dependent on the Duggars for everything at this time, including her own coffee in the morning.

Special Ed Lady said...

Sad Lisa, I think Anna had to participate. I imagine she is getting money from Jim Bob to support those kids.

CATMom said...

I am not sure Anna had a choice of whether or not to go on television. I still feel really sorry for her. She was raised to blindly follow whatever destructive male force was leading her. She has no education, four kids, and no place to go. Her family wants her to stay with Josh, and the Duggars are likely forcing her to go on television to make sure the dollars keep rolling in and to project that she is "forgiving". Anna and her children are financially tied in a desperate way to JimBoob. I wish she had an education or job skills so that she could leave and live with her more progressive family members until she's back on her feet.

Ruby said...

Anna is still quite young and very naive. Could you judge others motives in a mature way in your twenties? I know I couldn't. I was still very trusting of others words and intentions. Her parents don't seem to be backing her up. Who knows if she is allowed off the compound unaccompanied, allowed internet or telephone access or allowed friendship with anyone other than the Duggar clan. She still has a newborn plus three other small children. I'd say that for now she is stuck with the Duggars, for better or worse.

Denisean said...

Ruby...good point about Anna not being able to judge people well. I didn't really think of that. We say she is a grown woman, but she is only 26. I agree, people are very trusting at that age.

Just Me said...

I have to agree with Pretty Girl's comment about Anna in that video. Determined not to watch I have blocked TLC, however it's all over the entertainment shows. The absolutely worst part of that video,completely phony in my opinion is when Anna , sighs, hangs her head & says "yeah."

Over Them said...

RE: CATMom's comments about Anna. When Anna married Josh we were all told about her advanced education, & that she was certified to teach early childhood education. I remember many comments about why was she so nervous to read a story at the library to a handful of small children if she had this education? I never believed she had any further education than her home schooling, but that's how they tried to portray her when she was first on the show. Just another one of the contradiction from the Duggar camp, I guess.

Snowlakes said...

RE:lilwbprincess's comment. I truly appreciate that you care so much for Anna & I don't mean to of offend anyone on this blog, but Anna's acting on that video was the worst piece of acting I've seen in quite some time & we've seen plenty from various Duggars. When she say's, "yeah" & drops her head, in shame. Sorry but I just don't buy it at all.

Sad Lisa said...

Sorry. Not buying it. She has a mind and can think. She will forgive him. She will stay with him. And she loves the cameras.

Heart in Florida said...

Snowlakes: I agree with you. When I saw that "clip" of Anna, I also thought that is was a bad piece of acting. I'm not buying it either.

Heart in Florida said...

Let's remember the "advanced education" that Anna Keller had was from those unaccredited online Christian "schools" and distance learning at that. She never stepped foot in a real classroom to learn anything. She is "certified" to teach nursery school like the Duggar boys are plumbers and carpet layers. Some "early learning teacher" who can't even relax to read a 3 year old's story book in a public library.

Syndee said...

Yeah, I don't believe the poor Anna anymore either. I thought that she felt so bad and so ashamed and that was the reason she never spoke out. Instead it was to save it up for the special. Who can live that way?? Any tragedy to them is a photo op.

Over Them said...

Thanks Heart in Florida for adding the information about Anna's "education." I knew it was from an unaccredited online Christian schools. Sorry I forgot to mention that. It definitely was one of those Duggar achievements such as: "Concert pianist, Midwife, Photographer , etc, etc." I remember how many people commented on Anna saying how nervous she was reading to these 3 or 4 yr. olds & there were only 4 or 5 little ones there, including her own kids for storyhour. Of course, she was also just amazed at the contents of a public library.

Lily said...

Let me start out by saying I do not support the Duggars and are disgusted by them like most people but I don't blame Anna for staying. If she left she would have nothing, no way to make money, no where to live, and no support at any turn. Josh, Jim Bob, and Michelle have trapped her. I also think that probably going on tv and talking about it is her best bet. It's been six months since the molestation scandal and three since the cheating scandal. She has to talk at some point, she's a big girl, and this is the best chance she'll have.

Just my thoughs said...

Anna staying with Josh-From what we could see-the show and media posts-Anna had a good life with Josh thanks to TLC and his FRC job-all the traveling she got to do, trips within the US-two big overseas trips. She still got to travel with Josh with the FRC job-her and the family going places with him on his speaking engagements. She got to knobhob with politicians along with Josh. Before the first scandle, after one of Josh's speaking engagements,there was a take picture session with Josh and Anna. Stay at home mom. So if life behind closed doors was not as good as shown, she had at least this to compensate.
So now, how is life going to be with Josh without all the perks from TLC and FRC?

Heart in Florida said...

Remember folks a post I have made often....EVERYTHING the Duggar family does, says, or doesn't say or do, is all tied to publicity and money for it. Anna proved it yet again...Jessa is proving it right now by not speaking in any detail about who delivered her child, and what happened to CAUSE her bleeding, etc...the proof is in the pudding right there.

Pam said...

Lily, Anna does have somewhere to go. Her brother offered to help her. There was also an attorney who offered his services free of charge.

nancyr said...

I think Anna is in some ways like a fundie version of the late Princess Diana. Of course, there are obvious differences, but a few of the parallels are striking.

Both Diana and Anna were naive young virgins, prized chiefly for their future fertility, who found themselves in an arranged marriage. Diana was brought into the British Royal Family to mate with the Queen's first born son, Prince Charles, and produce the heir and a spare, Princes William and Harry. Anna was brought into the Duggar Dynasty to mate with King JimBob's first born son, Josh, and produce an heir and 19 spares.

Both Diana and Anna were baby obsessed "kindergarten teachers" who lacked credentials. Diana, although born into an aristocratic family, was a high school drop out who assisted in a kindergarten and also babysat and cleaned houses to supplement her allowance. Anna had a certificate in early childhood education from a bogus Bible college, and she no doubt had done more than her share of housecleaning and baby minding while she was growing up.

Both Diana and Anna were sheltered young women who were suddenly thrown into the public spotlight when their engagements were announced. Both starred as brides of televised weddings and became pregnant within a few months of their wedding day. But both women though famous led remarkably cloistered lives. The moment she became engaged, she was cut off from her family and friends and was like a virtual prisoner in the palace. Anna was also cut off from the wider world even before she joined the Duggars.

Both Diana and Anna were young romantics who thought they were marrying men who loved them but soon learned the cruel truth. Diana learned Charles was still in love with his old girlfriend Camilla shortly before the wedding and almost callled the wedding off. It's unclear when Anna learned about Josh's past and present scandals. She may or may not have been told something about the past scandal before the wedding. But she doesn't appear to have learned about the present scandals until shortly before the stories broke publicly.

After the scandals broke, both Diana and Anna were under intense pressure from their families to stay the course and not divorce their husbands. In Diana's case, the Queen's courtiers made her life difficult, and some claim they may have arranged for her death after her divorce. In Anna's case, King JimBob and the rest of the Duggar clan have effectively sealed Anna off from the outside world.

cat said...

The whole interview was phoney, I stopped liking Anna when she turned into a snob, ' I get to drive a Hummer cause I use cloth diapers' her whole attitude was rude. Im curious if Josh REALLY wants to go back to her, he sure didnt seem happy and I'll never forget the look on his face at the last pregnancy test.

Willow said...

So far, Jim Bob, Michelle, Jill, Jessa, and now Anna, have spoken on camera. The only person who hasn't is... Josh himself. He hides behind his father and the women.

Aimee said...

Lily - I had not thought of that but you are right! This is very well her best bet at telling "her" side of the story. A real interview might be uncomfortable and she and the family could not choose how to edit. But being part of the family specials means she can put herself back out in the public eye in a carefully edited (maybe even scripted) way.

Heart in Florida said...

Jim Bob, Josh and Michelle didn't trap Anna in this marital situation with no way out for her, that archaic, NON biblical lifestyle, belief system and poor substandard educational system trapped Anna in this situation and all of the other female dependent adult women who live this lifestyle.

Wishing said...

That video of Anna absolutely is showing a woman who is ashamed of: "Herself." Jill & Jessa will go along with anything, as the have their wonderful husbands to lean on, but there is nothing in that video that shows anything but Anna expressing shame, about herself. Yes there must be sadness, but I'm sure with her upbringing, as well as influence from her in-laws she thinks she didn't make herself available to Josh when she should have. When Josh was in DC giving several of his important speeches my husband said then, "look at all those young women that are surrounding him. I can't believe he won't step down of that pedestal that the family has him on. He'll take up with one of those pretty young women & it won't be long." Although I hate to admit it he was right, at least this time. Josh stepped down even if he had to pay someone to service him.

Meme said...

Just my thoughts: You said what I said in another post I sent. I agree that Anna is not the same little girl from the trailer. She has traveled abroad, met politicians and been photographed with VIP's. She's been on magazine covers and been interviewed on national television. She may not be educated but is smart enough to know that there is this thing called divorce and that husbands have to pay to support their children. Does she want to get a job, go to work, protect her kids and change her life? One thing is for sure. She is at least savvy enough now to know what she's doing. Either way.

CatMom said...

With regard to Anna's homeschooling, it does scare me. I'm sure she's planning on educating her kids at the School of the Dining Room Table, too. Since she didn't receive a good education herself, what the heck can she pass along? I do feel sorry for the kids, too. They are just so much in the dark and don't even realize it. So sad.

InVA said...

Where is the promo that everyone is talking about with Anna? I looked at the TLC page but the only one I can find is just Jill and Jessa talking.

If someone could share a link that would be great. :-) Thanks!

cat said...

I bet Josh is waiting for the big bucks to give his story, maybe People magazine

Denisean said...

Hmmm.. some of the comments on here about Anna got me to thinking- what if staying with Josh is kind of a sick way to punish him by making him continue in this lifestyle? Think about it. Anna wants this life- all the kids, etc. Josh doesn't. If she left him, then he is scott-free to go out and live the way he wants. If she is "willing" to forgive him and stay with him, then of course he would be expected to return to her. I really think Josh should just say- I don't want to go back to Anna, I don't want this life. Then her forgiving him or not wouldn't even be an issue.

Just Me said...

RE:In VA's question about where people have seen the promo with Jill, Jessa & Anna. I'm sure there are other places, but it has been on ET, Entertainment.

Dar said...

Whether she decides to stay or go, She will be making that decision for her young girls. I do hope someone from Child Protection Agency keeps an eye on that. I have to agree with those who suggested that she is acting on that clip. It was baaaad acting at that. I am truly disgusted with these people.

I am now starting to think that JimBob and Michelle have created publicity monsters. Wow, after all that happened, you would think they would just want some peace and quiet. I don't think Josh has had any therapy. I am told it takes years for pedophiles to change their tastes and behaviors, if they do. They are parading Anna around for money and viewers. I now think that she is worse than the others. Her brother offered help and others have as well, but she likes the limelight provided by TLC.

If that show gets acceptance, you can be assured that the whole kit and kaboodle will be back as well, with JimBob giving advice on how to raise a nice Christian family. It is crazy making. Just my opinion.

All Done said...

I cannot believe they are showing Anna hanging her head in shame & that's exactly what they are doing. I will not watch anything connected with TLC or the Duggars. I am willing to bet everything that what is being shown in the promo with Anna is all you'll see about her. No way is she going to open up & talk & if she does she crazy, because it will only be to tell the world how great the Duggar family has been to her & the children during a difficult time. She has given up her golden opportunity to really stick it to the Duggars & instead she following them in the same way all the sheep do. She's not fit to raise those kids. I wish someone in authority would look into this &see if Josh has access to those kids.

Always said...

Dar has hit the nail on the head. I agree with everything she said. I am sick & tired of people who don't think it's right to criticize the Duggars, but they put themselves out there & they also put themselves above other people. I don't believe for one minute that Anna knew anything about Josh's past "mistakes," that term alone is enough to make a sane person sick. There they were Anna & Josh paragons of virtue & purity standing on the alter making promises in front of God & assembled guest, promises Josh didn't keep & just waiting for those words:"You make kiss the bride." And now it's Anna hanging her head in shame. She is responsible or those kids. What's the matter Anna don't you really believe that your God will watch over you & protect you & your children? Instead you need the Duggars to look after you. I hope someone in authority is watching over those kids & making sure Josh isn't around them.

Auggie said...

I don't believe that Anna is able to make the decision to stay with Josh or go. Being born into that cult, there is no option. She may have travelled, but always within the permitted perameters placed upon her. (such as never going anywhere by herself, and never engaging in private conversations with anyone outside the cult.) Similar to the FLDS, I believe that they are taught that anyone outside their beliefs are going to hell. If she were to divorce Josh she would go straight to hell. Anyone trying to assist her, like her brother, is the devil trying to take her to hell. She's been taught to do whatever her father told her to do and then her husband and her father-in-law. It sounds like Jim Bob continues to control his kids lives. Also, poor Anna has been taught that girls/women are always at fault. Also, if she were to divorce Josh she would have to leave the cult and that means never being able to associate with everyone she knows and loves. Quite possibly she has been told that if she leaves she does so without her kids. My heart aches for these poor souls born into these cult-like religions. Anna being in the TLC special, I'm very sure, is JB's doing. He's making her earn her keep and like the dutiful daughter (in-law) she's doing what she's told.

Quiana said...

Did any sponsors back out of the shows? How are they still going on with the specials?
Also totally wondering people know that Anna's brother offered to help her but that comment was on social media. I don't know if it ever reached her. Maybe she doesn't even know that's an option. He's not fundie anymore I'm guessing, so the families most likely don't have contact with him?

Kinda always if suspected that one of the Duggar kids would grow up being a deviant because of the repressed sexuality they grew up around. You know except for their mom and dad. Is that all Jim and Michelle do is bump uglies? Michelle I can't have anymore kids so is her use over?

Meme said...

I just want to know which one of you kids gave the Duggars the idea that the way you respond to shame or crisis (or anything else, for that matter) is by...........giving advice. You got married? Give marital advice. You had a baby? Give child rearing advice. You became a teenager? Write a book for teens and give dating advice. Oh, forgive me, I meant courting advice - never mind that teenagers don't usually court. And finally my personal favorite. Your son molests his sisters, cheats on his wife and has sex with and beats up on a stripper? What's a father to do? Well, give advice to fathers advising them on how to raise godly sons, of course.
The Duggars sold their souls to the Money Gods a long time ago. Guess they think we never noticed.

Hello said...

I would like to know why Anna is being made to go on tv to speak about Josh cheating on her. Jumboob and Michelle pretty much said Josh molestung his sisters was a youyhful mustake. Jill and Jessa said it wasn't a big deal and that they forgave him. Anna will somehow say that it was her fault that Josh cheated on her. The one person who has said nothing is Josh himself. His family and Anna are doing nothing but making excuses for him.

Denisean said...

Re: Anna- I understand that this is a cult lifestyle and so she may not know how to get out of this situation. However, if you look at the extreme FLDS cults like the Warrren Jeffs ones, those people live in a totally isolated community. The Duggars do not. I can't believe that Anna doesn't know how to use the basic concepts of the internet- her and Josh do have a website, the girls have facebook and instagram accounts. Don't tell me she never tinkered around on a computer while Josh was at work. If nothing else, call the police station and ask them the number for a battered woman's shelter. I mean, I just find it really hard to believe that she and Josh lived on their own in Washington, DC, and she is that clueless as to how to navigate life.

I think that Anna truly wants the life she thought she had- staying at home with a dozen kids. She doesn't want to go to school or work. (nothing wrong with being a SAHM mom for anyone, really). Now, if she leaves Josh, what is she going to do- find another husband? and maybe she considers herself damaged goods. I think she will forgive him and stay with him in the same way that many people do whose spouses have affairs- they just turn the other cheek because they liked their life and don't want to start over.

Aways said...

I just want to ask bloggers out there if they would allow themselves to be shamed on TV for the sake of the Duggars family's relationship with TLC. Anna has been pregnant 5 times in 7 yrs. one was a miscarriage, & of course all those deliveries on TV. She always gazed up at Josh with the same look Michelle has when Jim Bob is speaking. There is a big world out there Anna & you are in the drivers seat at the moment, I wish you would realize that. Please, if you have no respect for yourself think of those children. Believe me no mater what you've been told you will not be going to hell. There are many kind, loving people out there that will help you & this might be a shock to you but they are not all Christians. Good people come in all forms.

Anna is not responsible for Josh's sins said...

Anna knows her brother offered to help,as he said she rejected his offer.
As for Michelle.babies or no anymore,she is still expected to be there to fulfill JB's wishes,(I hate to call it needs,he can live without),as she often preaches.
As far as I know,the Keller still see all the kids and gkids,(minus the ones in Africa, for now),as they were all in a pic together,not too long ago

Heart in Florida said...

I'll tell you, "Meme", where the Duggars 2.0 got their "advice style" from? Their parents, that's who. Michelle is always "asked" to spout out wifely, motherly, Christian advice to all who wish to hear the perfect, wise woman speak. Same goes for Jim Bob. He thinks he did everything right, regardless of what is coming out about their homelife situations. Their brains are frozen in this Gothard/ATI stuff and nothing short of a big jolt will loosen up their ways of thinking. Jill is and has been a "little Miss Know-It-All" most of her life and is continuing to be thus...something I do think will wear thin on Derickdillard/duggar sooner or later.

Nightmomma said...

Anna is not going to leave Josh for the same reason I'm not going to leave my husband. We are both chicken **it. As much as I want to leave I'm terrified. And Anna I'm sure hasn't had has much "worldly experience" as we think and is even more scared to say "I'm done." It's hard when you have kids but honestly if I had a lawyer saying they would take my case for free, I'd leave in a heartbeat.

She is being forced to go and talk on Josh's behalf and say yes it's hard, stressful and act like she is the poor pitiful wife but she believes it's her fault, if the Duggars didn't tell her then Josh did and when you get it all the time with nothing positive then you start to believe it. (It's what my husband has done and continues to do). It's emotional abuse but never leaves a scar, you feel less about yourself and the people who are supposed to love you don't care. Most of all the person who is supposed to be your best friend and husband. You are standing in their way, they know you won't leave (either due to up bringing or just general lack of self confidence) and know they own you. They can do whatever they want to you and you will lay down and take it.

This is the sad situation Anna finds herself in. Now whether she is aware this is her situation, I don't know. I wish I could talk with her (woman to woman). I have reached out may times but I'm just a normal person, going through the same thing, though in the "safety" of my "home."

I pray she can find a way out but she is stuck and will of course go back to Josh and get pregnant again, he will cheat again because once a cheater always a cheater. She will continually forgive him and turn the other cheek. It's what she believes God wants her to do, it's her "burden" as a woman. She sees this as a blessing. Women like her (and me) make the best wives, the husband can do what he pleases and we forgive, forget and turn the other cheek.

Tanya T said...

I agree with Cat. I remember the look on Josh's face when Anna so excitedly announced pregnancy number 4. I remember him napping in another room when Anna gave birth on the toilet. He didn't seem real excited during # 3's arrival, letting the doula/midwife and his mom comfort her during labor. I just don't think he is all that excited about fatherhood, or maybe they were an annoyance to him because he couldn't keep watching porn on his laptop computer with them all climbing around him. He looked so annoyed with his kids when Anna sat them around the kitchen table with him when he was trying to work on Jessa and Ben's wedding announcements.He gave Anna a look like " really?". Poor Anna kept bouncing around using Michelle's favorite phrase " practice makes progress" when it comes to baby making. I'm willing to bet the Duggars will not only strongly encourage Anna to stay,but will tell her having another baby with their precious Joshy will help solidify the marriage.

Dee said...

None of the Duggars have a proper education or job skills. Their family is so massive now that they have to do whatever they can to clothe, feed, and shelter their brood. I think they've copped to the fact that salacious stuff sells, so they figure why not exploit that aspect of themselves. Of course, they will do it under the guise of 'Christians mourning for the ungodly behavior of one of their own' so they can keep up their fake, hypocritial, holier-than-thou facade.
I hope these 'specials' will tank in the ratings, but who knows?
I won't be watching them. The moment TLC announced them I blocked all Discovery Communications channels from my cable lineup. I will never support another venture put forth by this company. They are vile beyond belief.

Meme said...

I agree that Josh Duggar doesn't seem real keen on fatherhood lately. I'm certainly no Josh fan but I still recall him stating that he did not see what was wrong with only having 2 or 3 kids. Anna-Michelle has other ideas, though.
It will be interesting to see how the specials fare, and how the Duggars deal with the possibility of a permanent financial loss (due to no reality show).

Anna is not responsible for Josh's sins said...

Nightmomma,I wish you and Anna would read a book,(do not let your husb see it!),it's about adultery,and it's call Love Must Be Tough,by Dr Dobson.I thought he was spot on for these situations,and I think you and Anna both could benefit from it

Sammie said...

Nightmsma, I feel your pain. I feel psi for Anna as well. Anna is so brainwashed by the Duggars & her own family she does not know better. I am one of the lucky ones. 2013 caught my husband cheating. It was easier for me because we never wanted children. I left then divorced him. I have moved on with my life & am much happier but more importantly relieved. Although I not a religious person, I believe in prayer & will pray for you & continue to pray that Anna leaves Josh for a better life.

Just Me said...

RE: Josh & fatherhood . All you need to do is remember is the one time he took the kids to get shoes. They were wild & all over the store. The first thing Anna told him, was keep them in the stroller. The first thing he did, was take them out of the stroller & lose total control over them. There were only 2 of them at the time MacKenzie & Michael.

CATMOM said...

If Anna and Josh end up staying together (I hope not), I am praying that they decide they are done with children. The relationship is so damaged and will take a long time to repair if they choose to do so. They don't need to bring more children into that situation.

Bobbi said...

Well since both Josh & Jim Bob have the brains of a Gnat (my money is on the Gnat) doubt they will stop having more children. Procreation is their mission it's all they know & have been taught by the creepy Gothard Cult. It's really disgusting. Still boycotting TLC!!!

Jennifer said...

Sorry but no TV stations have any morals whatsoever anymore : (

Michelle said...

The only way I will ever watch anything with the Duggars again is if they are on Dr. Phil or if Anna leaves Josh or one of the grown children escapes and denounces this cult. I would be more that happy to watch "Breaking Duggar".

Denisean said...

Regardless of the scandals, I am not going to watch because it's just boring, and has been for quite some time. Actually, they should be happy about the scandals cause at least it kept them interesting. What is there to see about Jill and jessa's marriages/babies? I mean, Michelle and JB had the 14, 15, 16 kids when they did their specials, but what is so special about Jill and Jessa? They are just like any other newlywed couple with their first child- big deal. B-o-r-i-n-g. The Duggars have been boring for so long now, it almost makes me think they made up these 'scandals'.

Katie's Mom said...

I have no idea if this is true or not but according to Radar-on-line & ET, Jim Bob had complete control over all of Anna's words during the taping of Jill & Jessa & counting series or specials whichever it turns out to be. They also note that over 900 hundred companies have withdrawn their advertising of the shows. There are many sites that are asking for people to boycott both TLC & Discovery channels during the showing of these specials. I hope all good people will join in this boycott. Please join in this boycott & finally bring an end to lining Jim Bob's pockets with pieces of gold.

Denisean said...

Katie's Mom... of course he did! Jim Bob controls this whole brood. Most people suspected that already, and their followers are so blind, they'll keep watching no matter what- singing their praises about what a pure family they are!

Rob said...

To quote Katie's Mom..." There are many sites that are asking for people to boycott both TLC & Discovery channels during the showing of these specials" I'd also like to suggest that a mere boycott will not be effective unless the few companies that are airing ads during the show are contacted via letters, phone calls and e-mails protesting their support of the program and DEMAND they stop advertising on it. TLC will have to drop the show as advertisers fall away.

Tori said...

Rob has a good point about contacting any sponsors during the upcoming series/specials. So I hope someone will post on this blog just who those sponsors are so we can get in touch with them.

I'm tired of Jim Bob Duggar getting rich off his super-sized family. It didn't take much effort on his part to father all those kids. Michele is the one who went through pregnancy and childbirth over and over. I've never believed for one minute that Michele made that decision on her own, despite Jim Bob saying he left it up to Michele.

Since the Josh debacle, the exploitation of Anna and her children are especially unseemly and decidedly un-Christian.

Hello said...

They should have named the show Jill and Jessa: Counting on more paychecks to support our families. I wonder if Jimboob negotiated the deal with TLC and will get a cut of their paychecks.

Denisean said...

Re: TLC description of the specials...."candid" interviews, my arse!

Meme said...

I totally agree that a boycott is in order, at least it will be in my home. Sick of the Duggars' free ride. Isn't it interesting that when the family had their show cancelled, the kids all began asking for money for t-shirts, videos, etc. These millionaire parents taught them to do this, rather than go to work. Jill and Jessa are just doing what comes naturally. Hey, they are newlyweds who need money. No one's husband has a job, after all.
The day that Jessa Duggar checks my groceries and Bin carries them to the car will be the day I watch their show.

Katie's Mom said...

RE: Rob's comments. I agree we need to know all the advertisers that we can contact. The problem is, I have only been able to access the ones who have already said "NO" to the Duggars show, & let's be clear about it, we all know it is the Duggar family not just Jill & Jessa & the shamed Anna.

Always said...

Reading the description of the upcoming special, does anyone have any questions at all about exactly what "family members," will be in this special? Originally TLC tried to sell this, as only focusing on Jill & Jessa, & their immediate families, now it's family & friends. Of course Jim Bob & Michelle will be dominant players in this farce.

Ellyn said...

Well we all know Jim Bob will raise his ugly head or insist ion making his usual moronic & stupid comments. He's just a moron.

Missy said...

RE: Hello's comment. I think you can bet everything you own on the fact that Jim Bob was the one that negotiated the deal for the show. He's had his fingers in the pie all along. At first, it was said that he didn't want a show that would only focus on Jill & Jessa, however when he realized that it was the only way around getting back on TV he changed his tune. If you read the description of the upcoming show, it certainly sounds as if the entire Duggar family, minus a couple will definitely have some part in this series. How can they show the family having a baby shower for Jessa without showing all the girls & Michelle? Then there will be the tearful farewell with Jill & Derick & Izzy leaving the country. So in essence: They are back!!

lizzy10 said...

OMG, that description is unbelievable! I'm not sure whether to laugh or gag. TLC must have let Jim Bob write it.

Leslie said...

Re: Always' comments...

Yup. I remember reading an article on People Magazine's website a while back saying that Jessa had a co-ed baby shower and that Jim Bob was there. Surely that's going to be a prominent part of at least one of these episodes, and God knows Jim Bob and Michelle never met a camera they didn't like, so they'll be getting their cut from all of this. And that's to say nothing about Anna's participation in it. We know there's no way she's leaving Josh, so he'll get his paws on whatever she gets out of the whole thing soon enough. *SIGH* We called it from the beginning. TLC's sneaking the whole family back on the air.

Chloe said...

Yes Jim Bob defines the word moron. Every time this jerk opens his mouth we may count on the fact that he spews his dose of stupidity.

Ellyn said...

The channel that was once TLC is now Deleted from my cable system. I just cannot waste brain matter listening to the word "like" in every sentence from goody two shoes Jill Dillard. I have a feeling one day, Derick will tire of a wife who is boring, tiresome & limited! Jill just makes me want to Hurl!

Ellyn said...

Is Jill Dillard like taking like care of like her son like or is Derick like totally like taking care of like Israel like? Every photo like I've seen like is Derick like with Israel like. Don't ya just love Jill speak? Duh! Hmmmm!

Denisean said...

What is with the fake tears? I mean, I have never seen anyone jam a tissue into the corner of their eye like that when they are really crying, like Jill does every time we see her. If you are truly crying, why not let the tears stream, why do they have to be wiped away immediately upon leaving the eye? Or else, why fake tears? Just talk about the situation-no one is going to think less of Jill if she doesn't cry when talking about it. Jessa didn't cry on camera, and so far not Anna that we have seen. Why all the fake crying from Jill?

Nana8 said...

I guess I saw things a bit differently. Anna's little head talk ad seemed to me one of the very few honest responses in Duggar video history. Her body language seemed to say, "I feel hopeless."
Her"Yeah" seemed as though maybe she had heard it through her own voice for the first time. I've seen it before. Unfortunately, I hold little help that she will receive the help she needs to make her strong enough to do what she really needs to do.

Captain Crunch said...

The little clip I saw while Anna says 'It was heartbreaking, to hear what had happened'...I see humiliation, anger and sadness in her eyes/face. I think that was genuine. .however I think it alarming for her daughters that shes obviously staying married to that slime ball.

Virginia said...

My heart truly breaks for Anna. I keep seeing all of these posts saying how she needs to leave etc and jade held off responding because well it is hard. I know. I have been in an emotionally abusive marriage for close to 30 years and I am here to say that when you have been brainwashed for a very long time you don't know what is real and what isn't. My husband convinced me that so many things (like his constant need for sex etc) was normal and I was the one with problems. I have been in counseling for months and am just now starting to realize the extent of the control and abuse and much of what I see in Jim Bob and Josh are physically hard for me to watch because it is like looking in a mirror. I believe that Michelle has been a victim of emotional abuse and a very controlling husband as well. I too have people telling me to leave and when you have been beaten down it takes a long time to gain the confidence to make the break.

Judy said...

I just watched a tease for it on GMA. Yesterday they said the Duggars would be ON GMA but they weren't. It's just clips from the show.

Judy said...

"It was heartbreaking, to hear what happened." What about anger?

Ruby said...

It is pathetic for Anna"s children that she is exposing herself and her sad marriage on television. Did she EVER think that someday her children will be old enough to see this miserable circus on the internet and realize that the whole world knows about cheat'n Josh? How degrading.

CatMOM said...


This article (link below) from US Weekly Magazine gets really interesting at the end. In the new special airing on Sunday, Jill makes reference to the Megan Kelly interview and Josh. Here is the last paragraph:

"In her special, an emotional Jill said that Josh should never have allowed them to do that interview knowing full well that he was being unfaithful to Anna. 'It wasn't right for him to let us speak our words without having full knowledge of what he was hiding,' Derick Dillard's wife said in her special."

Wow! It makes me think, would Jill NOT have gone on to defend Josh on Megan Kelly if she knew that he was hiding his affairs?

http://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/anna-duggar-on-joshs-scandals-i-was-just-like-this-cant-be-true-w159275

Beth said...

REMINDER: If you want to see the train wreck that is this family but do not want them to benefit financially by the ratings... make sure to DVR the specials AND then wait at least 7 days before watching the recording! Ratings are counted based on live viewers plus all DVR viewers up to 7 days. (Personally I've been doing this for the last 2 seasons, plus then I can forward through the parts that are hard to stomach ;)

Janice in Mo said...

Just saw a new clip from their special. Joseph and Jinger, in tears...it is truly heart breaking. Also a clip of Jessa in labor in terrible pain.

A little more of Anna holding Meredith and tearing up.

Janice

Ruby said...

Yeah--Jessa sitting in the bed covered in a sheet trying to push out the huge baby while the film crew hovers. That's a good way to relax and focus on the birth process. This family IS a train wreck. Anna being interviewed with her with all her curls, looking like a 10 year old, "I thought it was a bad dream and I'd wake up and everything would be alright". WHAT? What planet are these people from? How naive. How immature. How pathetic.

Happy ending said...

Sorry to offend Janice in MO, but the Duggars have always been able to tear up on demand. Remember how Jim Bob was able to cry on cue during the girls weddings?

Denisean said...

Virginia- sorry to hear about what you have been through. Stay strong, girlfriend!

I think most people agree that of course Anna and all of them are completely brainwashed. I am hoping that she gets the strength to get out *someday* if not now.

Anna is not responsible for Josh's sins said...

Judy,it's normal to feel a lot of hurt,before anger kicks in,in these situtions.Anna is so emotionally stunted and brainwashed though,and told that she has to forgive (no doubt),that I'm not sure she will even reach the anger stage,as a normal person would

Anna is not responsible for Josh's sins said...

"In her special, an emotional Jill said that Josh should never have allowed them to do that interview knowing full well that he was being unfaithful to Anna. 'It wasn't right for him to let us speak our words without having full knowledge of what he was hiding,' Derick Dillard's wife said in her special."

Well,that is what Jill gets for defending Josh,(and trying to minimize what he'd done) when HE should have been the one staring in the face of the camera to defend himself,if he so chose to do so.
I really felt at the time that he was hiding something,since he wouldn't step up to plate and say outright that he wasn't that kind of person anymore.And we all know that is the case now,that he was hiding something

Ruby said...

Was Anna really that ignorant that she was totally 100% shocked by Josh's secrets? Was she so oblivious that she had no clue at all? Didn't she catch ANY creepy vibes from him? Didn't she even once wonder if he was sneaking around? Didn't any of the Duggars? Were they all living in their sweet sweet world of happiness and awesomeness ? And have they learned anything at all from this tragedy? Are they any wiser?

s said...

What has happened to Anna's lips? Looks like she's had some work done. Google images and it's quite obvious. So much for the modesty thing.

Janice in Mo said...

Happy Ending,

a comment from a blogger will never offend me. It was my response to seeing the clip. I have many feelings about the Duggar's and this is just one of them. Seeing Joseph and Jinger so vulnerable, I feel for them.

They aren't all Jim Bob and Michelle.

Janice in Mo

Just Wondering said...

Jill doesn't even speak correctly saying "Josh shouldn't have let us speak our words." You would think an adult would say, he never should have let us take part in that interview

Just ME said...

RE: Judy's comment. It has to be heartbreaking because anger isn't allowed in the Duggar family.

Gracie said...

Here's a thought. TLC put this on Sunday evening which makes me think they didn't want to risk other programming slots and they were doing the special to appease the few fans the Duggars have left. Sundays evening is football watching and getting ready for the work/school week, not for sitting down and watching a family try to excuse their scandals from 6 months ago. I wonder if the Duggars had something in a contract that obligated TLC to follow through on this. Something just seems odd about the timeslot and day.

Denisean said...

I was reading an article that said that some of the duggars refuse to participate in the specials because of all the family has been through. So, I agree that I don't think all the children are fame-hungry like Jill and jessa and the parents. You could tell that already with some of the children like John David appearing in small amounts during the regular show. I think Jinger and Joseph's tears are real.

Stephanie said...

I just saw the clip and my thoughts
Glad Jimbob isn't running his mouth I am sure is the "manager" getting his piece of the money.
Michelle's 911 call was gross with her trying to stay sweet and precious
This home birth stuff and having your husband sitting behind you on the bed looks uncomfortable
Jessa looked like she's in agony, I don't even want to see that on tv
Remember John David and Josh seemed very close years ago? Seemed to work together slot and film together a lot? Makes me wonder if Josh's actions blindsided him or if he was suspicious.

PleAse no one take this the wrong way but did Derick and Ben know about the molestation before they married? Remember the Kellers said the Josh's molestation was disclosed before Anna married him?
Does anyone think that Jimbob thinks the girls were sexual ruined and would never get a husband? (I know that's not true but jumbo a sexual ideas he may think that and that's why the single Duggar girls have not been exposed or interviewed)
Only the married girls talked.
Jill had a point, Josh let them go on camera without them knowing the entire truth.
Jimbob and Michelle only hurt the situation with their interview. However I love Michelle dodging the hard questions by quoting bible verses. She doesn't know what to say and the interviewer always backs down when the bible is quoted.

Patrice said...

I really hope no one watches this garbage. First of all, it is just the Puppet-Master Jim Bob, behind the scenes, pulling the strings and counting the money as it drops into his bank account. Secondly, BORING! I'd rather sit on my porch and watch the grass grow under the snow. Thirdly, all of that boring material is already outdated. We all know that Jill and Derrick never were, are, or will be missionaries. We all know that Jessa had a boy and stuck him with the horrible name of Spurgeon. I think in about 16 years, we should see a special on how much counseling this kid needs to overcome all the ridicule he will endure with that moniker.
And fourthly, the Duggars have proven themselves to be fakes, phonies, money-grubbing fame whores. If no one watches, the show will fail, and they can go out and get real jobs like the rest of us. Why support this bunch who does not deserve the huge TLC paychecks? Ugh, what a mess.

coleen said...

A new clip of the daughters' special.

http://www.hngn.com/articles/158783/20151210/jill-jessa-counting-sneak-peek-anna-duggar-reacts-joshs-cheating.htm

Quiana said...

UGH! I still have no idea how the heck TLC is getting away with going through on showing these specials! What sponsors are backing these? You think after all the outrage they would back off but WTF! They kicked Honey Boo Boo to the curb but the Duggars are AOK.
I'm hoping in a few years down the road we get one of the kids who escaped writing their tell all! I can't wait for that!
Question were Derrick and Ben born into the same religion? If not why would they think this is a good idea? lol.

Syndee said...

Stephanie, very insightful about thinking JB only let the married girls talk so as not to expose the others as an already chewed piece of gum or a jar full of spit or whatever nonsense was in that lecture. That is probably true.

Someone said that probably all TLC had to do for this was put together already filmed footage. Wasn't most of this already done, besides Jessa's birth part? So maybe it's not costing them much, even without sponsors, so it's worth the risk to gauge the viewership. Because I got to tell ya, it's hard for me to not click on an article, so it will be hard not to watch the show, even as mind-numbingly boring as we guess it will be.

Chloe said...

It's very sad the Duggar kids living in the USA yet their Freedom to choose, date, speak, receive a great & solid education will never be theirs. They are brainwashed & limited. I still am shocked that Arkansas child services aware of this family, have never intervened on behalf of the health & stability of the Duggar kids.

Ellyn said...

This Sunday 12/13, I will not watch the Jil & Jessa program because I refuse to watch & listen too creepy Jim Bob & Minnie Mouse voice Michelle. You know these two will do everything possible to get their faces on this program to ingratiate themselves at any cost to return to TV. I hope one day soon TLC realizes tthe Duggars are a huge mistake.

Living In Indy said...

Jill Dillard is the poster person for the ATI Gothard method of "dumbing down" homeschooling. Jill has difficulty putting a grammatically correct sentence together. Still I am fascinated that college educated Derick Dillard finds this lack of education in Jill attractive. Just mind boggling.

Murphy said...

Josh Duggar is the epitome of a Coward as he Hides behind his parents, sisters & Anna. He's disreputable.

Ruby said...

Another "Couting On" promo has surfaced. Ben and Jessa talking parenthood. Ben has nothing interesting to say. He is just as dull as I remember him from 19KAC. And would someone please get that guy to the allergist! It's not that hard to get something to clear that stuffed up face and red eyes. Gosh--he always sounds like he has a "code in his dose".

s said...

Derick needs a roast beef dinner, a plate of home made cookies, a glass of milk, a hug from his mama, a life outside duggarville, a job and a shot of testosterone. Good grief--he has become Jill's handmaiden.

Stephanie said...

I remember being at a Christian youth conference as a teen (late '80s) and one of the speakers said if a girl had been raped or molested etc that she was still a virgin because she did not give that away it was taken. I'm paraphrasing but you get the idea. I don't think Josh's victims were at fault in anyway and they did NOT do anything g wrong nor disrespect their future husbands.
After watching Jimbob and Michelle for ten years I just don't believe that they think this way. Michelle blaming herself for her neighbors divorce while mowing the lawn in a swimsuit top is what comes to mind in particular that makes me think the girls are considered tainted or at fault.
Jimbob had two victims married and they don't want anyone to know the other two victims because they think men won't want them. None of this is true but we all know how they think.

One more thing, how do they know what NOT to elaborate on? Had TLC been editing out the real crazy? We all saw Jimbob run his big mouth on Megan Kelly. Her producers didn't hide the crazy.
Saying they talked to lots of friends and molestation happens in most homes.
Saying he touched breast over the clothes just for a second.
Crazy and TLC is just as guilty for hiding that loose cannon mouth of his.

Denisean said...

How are Ben and Jessa speaking of parenting! They have a newborn- the have been parents for a few weeks. That is utterly ridiculous. It's not parenting when they are newborns- it's taking care of them. Parenting is later when you're heart is breaking because they are saying they hate you because you grounded them for coming home late from curfew. Parenting is re-learning 10th grade history so you can help them with homework, parenting is not letting them date a boy in college when they are 14, parenting is buying them new shoes every 2 months because they are growing that fast, parenting is crying and second-guessing, and wishing for them to be grown and a newborn again at the same time. THAT is parenting, my friends. Not cooing with an infant for a few weeks.

Syndee said...

Maybe parenting is easier for them... no being late for curfew since the kids are already home, no learning 10th grade history because no 10th grade, no new shoes because shoes just get passed down, no dating in college because no college... and of course no saying I hate you because no bad feelings are allowed. It must make parenting easy in the quiverfull cult.

KatieP said...

Ben Seewald is as dull as wallpaper.

KimmieH said...

About Derick agreed. Derick needs to grow a pair & become a man. What is this power Jill & Jessa (both not smart) have over Derick & Ben? I am confused.

Stephanie said...

If the Dillards big going away at Cross Church was filmed and we all know they don't qualify as missionaries with legit organizations and their own attempt to create and raise money for Dillard missionary (whatever they called it) and they were home in one month and they are back already again and people have asked for refunds what exactly is TLC going to show? Whew that was a long questions with the word "and" over and over I sound like Jill.

Also, I read John David says he told Josh he always wanted to be like him but not anymore. I'm paraphrasing. I thought "finally someone has some sense" but he said something, and I paraphrase that he didn't feel that way UNTIL the porn cheating scandal. So he didn't care about the molestation?
He almost had my sympathy for a second.

Stephanie said...

Sorry for multiple posts but so many people say they won't watch but I will because have have watched for ten years and have commented on this board for at least five years.
I will be at Liberty University tomorrow for state football championship (daughter a cheerleader, go Spartans) thinking of all the money the Duggars made at that university when their kids were too good to actually attend that university themselves. That school is growing every year. People are looking for faith and the Duggars just set Christianity back for a generation.

s said...

Kimmie H--the "power" that Jill and Jessa have over their men is their connection to the TLC gravy train and the prospect of never working a day in their lives. EASY STREET as long as they can put up with the sex scandals and public scrutiny with no privacy. When you are young and foolish it seems like a small price to pay for a life of ease.

Katie's Mom said...

RE: Stephanie's comment. Let me start by saying as always, I believe everyone is entitled to their own opinion. However, what you were watching over the past 10yrs. & commenting on here on the blog could not, or until recently could not have included; actually knowing about sexual molestation, pornography, & prostitutes with regard to the Duggar family. Regardless of the fact that what we now know, appears to pertain to only one family member, it has shown that this is not the Godly, upright, holier than thou family, that is using a TV show, (something they claim not to even allow in their own home) to spread a "ministry," which they have tried & obviously will continue to try & sell to their fans. Yes the Duggars have set Christianity back a generation, & this new series or specials, depending on the ratings, borders on more of the same or worse. Again for those who want to watch & comment that's fine, if that's what they consider fit TV viewing to bring into their home even while they now know the deceit involved with this "ministry." As I've said they are entitled to their own opinion. I don't consider myself above anyone else with my own code of moral behavior, but I know what I consider morally wrong & on just about every level the Duggars have it in spades. Enjoy the show, but I will count on my blogger friends to keep the dollars out of the Duggars pockets.

Always said...

I see now that People Magazine is interviewing all the older siblings in the Duggar family. I don't believe there has been an issue of People without some article about the Duggars in at least a year. We know they were in every issue at the very least, starting with the girls weddings. Now they have the siblings being interviewed, which I personally think is disgusting, but that should probably carry them through another yr. or so. If anyone ever had any doubts about Jim Bob & Michelle as parents, seeing the siblings splashed all over the magazine should tell you something about their parenting skills,it's all for the money. If the Duggar parents cared at all about their family they would have everyone in some serious professional counseling.

Willow said...

Regarding comments from "s" - YES, exactly what Derick needs. I agree with you about Derick and Ben, but, sadly, the reason they are with the Duggar girls is probably because they are Duggar girls. Its the fame that attracts them, IMO. Especially Derick. Ben was just way too young and immature to hold his own with Jessa. I think he is star-struck and intimidated by JB. Derick, however, had age, education, good family background, everything going for him. Now look at him. Its just so sad. He looks beat-down and ill; what a transformation.

Lisa Mcginnis said...

I just want to say I really feel sorry for the duggar family because anytime money comes their way they will do anything for it. Too bad their fans do not really see it this way. The want to see them on tv how sad is this. I want to see this family healed they need to stop being on tv and get real help. Get away from this cult and get help and get healed. I pray that they may know the Lord that can heal them. This family is in realy crisis and no one seems to really care about them. Their son says he feels so bad about this but do they really. I just do not see it. If they really cared why go on tv go and get help and get healed being on tv is not going to heal you.

Missy said...

Does anyone else ever wonder why none of the crew members, under agreement of anonymity has ever spoken out about what was really going on in the Duggar home? Someone could have put in an anonymous call to CPS. They have to investigate any accusation, regardless of whether or not they think it's a valid accusation. Surely someone must have seen some of the children spanked or hit. The fact that the kids had little if any of Michelle's homeschooling. A crew member would know that an older sibling, especially a teen would not be the one to be doing the schooling. Also those kids were always so tired & just sleeping anywhere they fell, even on the staircase,or a pillow on the fllor & a blnaket if they were lucky. All of that was neglect at the very least. There must have been things that didn't seem right to some crew member who could have reported it to authorities. Anyone who sees neglect or mistreatment is obligated at least morally to report it. Let the authorities take it from there.

S said...

Willow, it's true that Derick just looks I'll and beaten down ( not literally). He seems like he has no opinion, no life, no interests or hobbies. Seems like he does an awful lot of taking care of his son. Anytime that baby is with Jill it just seems like he is dangling off her in some uncomfortable position only partially supported by a sling. She doesn't seem very attached to her baby emotionally. Derick has been completely swallowed up by the Duggar machine. Jill has never really "left home" even though she is in Central America. Are Jill and Derick making a life for themselves yet? Sure doesn't look like it to me.

Janice in Mo said...

I find the new clip heart breaking in so many ways. I think the brother's who are strong in their faith, will have a hard time forever with Josh. I still whole heartedly believe Jim Bob and Michelle failed him. He was the oldest. He remembers being poor and raising up his siblings. He was a teen locked in a tiny house who wasn't given any real outlets that normal boys have. I believe he has a legitimate personality disorder, and looking back you can see the big boys didn't really gravitate to him. Seeing the advantages and changes his siblings have had-Joseph going to college, was that even an option for young Josh? Or was it get him married so he will quit watching porn.

I think Josh is truly a messed up adult.

Here's a thought-would Anna divorce him and marry John David??? After all, those are Duggar grandkids and I truly believe the family adores Anna and the children. They would be devastated if she were to leave the family.

Janice

Janice in Mo said...

I guess I have some sympathy for Derrick. I am going through major orthodontics as an adult...third time, and with the weight loss and fatigue, I look not well. I lack energy and I do feel beaten down. His oral surgery where they broke his maxilla takes almost a year to fully recover from. He was thin already. Eating is such a struggle, you avoid it. Then you get thinner and lose energy.

Janice

Syndee said...

http://www.starpulse.com/news/index.php/2015/12/10/jessa-seewalds-home-birth-video-jinger

About at 50 sec in the video - is that Jana? So it's Joseph, Jana, Jill, Jessa, Jinger, and also Anna, all getting interviewed? How can they all be crying? Do you really get that affected by what your siblings do, especially if you're not that close?

Always said...

I'm so sorry to say this, because I know this sounds so cruel after Janice in MO's comment, but I don't believe for one minute that the Duggars adore Anna & their grandchildren. I think Anna was exactly the wife they needed for Josh, & the kids are just an added bonus. I remember Josh calling the crew to film Anna's first pregnancy test, as well as filming her deliveries, which was not the case with Jill. I know she had a C-Section in the hospital, but so did Michelle more than once & they filmed that. Showing pregnancy tests & deliveries is something that Josh learned from Jim Bob, & he just followed his father's lead. The crew actually said the Duggars are very TV savvy. The Duggars didn't show any kindness to Anna when she & Josh were moving to DC, & they decided to stay at the Bates's home because they were enjoying themselves, while Josh,Anna & 3 kids, one a newborn infant, waited in their new home for their belonging to arrive. Michelle said laughing, "they can stay in their camper tonight." The Duggars have shown us more than once who & what they are & I still adhere to Maya Angelou's words of wisdom: "When people show you who they are believe them..the first time!

Andrea said...

Janice said: "After all, those are Duggar grandkids and I truly believe the family adores Anna and the children." Have to disagree. I think that actually Anna and her children are actually quite disposable to Jim Bob and Michelle. I mean, Michelle's own children seems disposable to her, so don't imagine she has any real attachments to the Grandkids. Maybe Anna is close to some of her sister in laws? or Josiah? Amy? Or Grandma? But honestly, I think Jim Bob and Michelle keep her close only to control her. I mean, if she were to leave, it would really tarnish their imagine and Josh would become even more of a problem. He'd be single, conceivably out on the town drinking and having sex with women. As it stands, Josh is sort of Anna's problem as he is still her husband.

Andrea said...

Janice's comment about Derrick and his dental work . . . I think Derrick got the work done to look better on TV. Don't really have much sympathy for him. Janice: Sorry to you though. That sounds tough!

Andrea said...

Gracie wrote: "Something just seems odd about the timeslot and day." I think it has to do with demographics. Yes, lots of men and women watch football on Sunday evening, but also after a full day of football maybe the wife or daughters go off and watch this gawd awful TV program away from the men. I think TLC' main demographic is women between the ages of 18 and 49. Am I wrong? I really don't think ratings are going to be great, aren't most people busy this time of year with holiday parties and preparing for Christmas? Obviously, if these three "specials" do well, the Duggars' will be back on the air full time, no question. It's all about the money and if the show brings in an audience, it brings in money and so it continues. Waiting to see what happens. I won't be watching because I don't have cable or a satellite. We watch TV the old fashion way with an antenna.

Stephanie said...

Your right of course Katie's Mom, I nor anyone else know the molestation, internet porn, or adultery. We did know that their was hypocrisy and a serious obsession with sex. I don't think I have to give examples. I guess it was just a feeling and it took ten years to come out how seriously messed up one of the kids are.

I know everyone is dying to know about the high school state game at Liberty (not) anyway my daughters school won in double overtime! Yea it was a match up they lost last year and was a big upset.
Liberty is HUGE, stadium was awesome just like last year. I mention LU because Duggars would go and speak but we're too good to let their kids go to that school. Just another example.
Derrick and Ben talk just like Jimbob kinda a condescending preacher type I can't really explain it

Aunt Bea said...

Yes, "Always", quite an insightful post. The Duggars have shown me "who they are" from the very beginning. Remember that photo of them dressed in red and white marching in a straight line when Jim Bob was running for office on election day? Did that look modest and humble to you? No way, it was quite an arrogant appearance if you ask me...boastful, prideful, the list goes on. Modest? ...my foot.

Heart in Florida said...

I have seen some recent photos of derickdillardduggar, and the dark circles under his eyes look awful. That guy is getting rail thin and looks exhausted. He quit his real job, is pursuing his "hobby" ministry lifestyle, doesn't have to get up for work anymore and actually WORK 8-5, so why does he look so bad? Is life with Jill exhausting? If I were his mother, and I have 2 sons, like Cathy, I'd be quite worried about him and tell him so.

Katies Mom said...

Stephanie, I'm not sure it's Liberty University, the Duggars had an issue with, I believe it's the whole idea of only real education for their kids. I'm sure it's a great school, but I have a problem with the directors allowing someone like the Duggars to speak there in the first place. Anyone in a position of authority & making that decision should know full-well the background of the people they allowed to use their school as a platform for their agenda.
I think we all applaud those great young people that attend the school. I also send hearty congratulations on your daughter's win yesterday!

BLB said...

I won't be watching tonight or ever again. I started watching thinking it was a wholesome, child loving family. It isn't, and then I watched as one watches a train wreck. It is, and I will not let anyone make money off of me watching this mess anymore, ever...

Dee said...

BLB, good for you! I wholeheartedly agree. I have made the decision to never have any of the Discovery Communications channels on my cable lineup again.
They are a company without a conscience. It probably won't change the outcome where the Duggars are concerned, but at least I have the satisfaction of knowing I won't be contributing to the support of that company or that family.

Jennifer said...

Interesting that very few commercial sponsors were seen during the special. ...it was more TLC sponsored..like look at our new upcoming shows etc.

Murphy said...

Ok so far on J & J counting I've counted the word " LIKE" spoken close to 80 times. Geez

Living in Indy said...

OMG what happened to Derick's face? The right side of his jaw looks as though he's in pain. I feel sorry for him Every feature in Derick's face seems off. Sad.

KatieP said...

After the word "Like" was spoken three consecutive times by Jill, I quickly switched channels. I just cannot endure "like" anymore from the word challenged Jill & Jessa. Really irritating on so many levels.

Leia said...

It was a "LIKE" fest. Annoying & Boring!

Kristy D said...

I would watch a show with Anna why didn't they let her talk

Wampascat said...

I like, totally didn't watch the show tonight. Like, yeah. And , it was like, awesome.

Jeanette said...

The episode started out very sad, but they do seem hopeful. Jim Bib was heard praying and Michelle was briefly seen, which was good. I don't think this is a reboot. It seems more like a three-part goodbye. Perhaps a proper ending for the series starring only the kids.

Stephanie said...

You are correct. They didn't have any commercials. It was long previews of The Little Couple, Kate plus 8, married by mom and dad, and My 600 pound life. People weren't exaggerating about them losing sponsors.
I didn't see anything new that we didn't see in the trailers.
Interesting that they talked about Dericks surgery which looked extremely painful and expensive. My husband was falling asleep and he hates this show and even he said "was that necessary or elective?"
I wonder how much that cost. It sounds like cosmetics and have never even heard of breaking your upper jaw. I guess Jimbob alluding to him not being that good looking actually hit a nerve to his ego after all. What house were they temporarily in? And we should research how much that kind of orthodontic procedure costs? I guess some of their mission donation money could have ended up at the oral surgeon.
I am sure I am wrong but Ben didn't seem too excited in his interviews about childbirth and fatherhood. The money is not rolling in and real life us looking more real? I think their honeymoon phase will be over quickly.
I do think Derick loves Jill he's seems to have adjusted better.

Katie's Mom said...

Sorry it was a "LIKE," fest, annoying & boring, but that's what you get with the Duggars, I didn't expect it to be anything different. So happy that so many on this blog appear to have held fast to their personal integrity, & watched something else, even if it had to be football in my house. Still a much better choice, I think.
Bravo to my blogger friends, who have chosen to hold fast to their moral & ethical principles!

Captain Crunch said...

So...we heard from Jill, Jessa, John- David, Jana, Jinger, Joy-Anna, Joseph, Josiah, and even BengermanBenSeewald and DerickDillard too...still not a peep out of The Pillsbury Dough Boy...whose apparently still tucked away in porno rehab...my biggest shock? Jim Boob and Minnie Mouse stayed out of it..

cat said...

What on earth do the Duggars have on TLC to force them to air this circus act?,!!

Roo Doo said...

Omg WHYYYYY are they so torn up by Josh's "double life"????? He did something bad. Again. Why is this affecting them so deeply???? Be sad for Anna. But stop whinging on about how hard it has been for YOU. Believe it or not, this is NOT about YOU. It's about Anna, Josh and the kids. Not you.

Kathryn said...

So BOOORRRINNGG! Watched15 minutes, but it was painful.

Just Plain Offended said...

I purpose to watch very little TV [none, actually} and my internet use is closely monitored, so I did not watch the show. I feel so "blessed" that they cannot taint me or my beautiful large screen television set with their ungodly influence.

Elspeth said...

It's about losing the shiny family image and the Tee Vee show with all the money and perks and having to live with their fame whore parents having their world turned upside down. :)

Denisean said...

OK, ok, I got sucked into watching...

I realized tonight that Jana's version of Jill's "like" is the word "just"... she said "just" over and over again. Also, I had to mute every time Jill spoke because I can't stand any talking head segments in *any* reality show wherein the person speaks with slow, dramatic pause (see for example, Meri from sister wives). Jessa at least spoke at a normal pace.

I think they were (like just) so upset about the affair because it reminded them of the pig Josh is, when they have conveniently swept that under the rug years ago. That was sort of their excuse- oh, he was young and curious about girls..But now they have no excuses for him.

I thought some of the tears were real- some fake. I don't think it is all about losing the show- I think for some of them, this really rocked their sense of reality. It's got to be shocking to come face to face with the fact that the way of life you always knew to be true is a farce. I think that is in part why they feel so much for Anna- she did all she was supposed to do and ended up with a pig for a husband. Just goes to show, you can be the purest of pure, but you never can *really* know if another person is. Additionally, this must be a huge red flag to them that maybe this courting with a chaperone is nonsense, and leads to you not really knowing the first thing about this person you are marrying.

Rob said...

OK so I DVRed it and watched and I have to say my gut reaction is why keep dropping Josh's name and not have him speak? Perhaps this is TLC's goal, drum up interest in the creep and do a special of his "repentance and atonement". To that I say yeah we do need to hear from him but I seriously doubt he'd be anywhere near honest. It'd just be another cash cow show for TLC with NO payout for them and a HUGE waste of time. I've got more comments about certain aspects of the interviews and what was shown in addition to the names of the few brave companies that put their necks out by having ads on this episode which I'll list later today. Now seeing as it's 4 AM (Yeah I run on weird hours) I'm off to bed.

Rudy Tude said...

I watched the first hour. Here's what I got out of it:
1) Jessa said "like" more often than Jill
2) Derick looks like he cuts his own hair
3) What's up with Benjermin's hair? Is that a comb-over or a wig?
4) When some of the sisters were shopping, one actually said "Benjess"
5) Jinger was the most well-spoken of any of the Duggars
6) I felt violated when TLC put up the graphic saying that it was alleged that Josh inappropriately touched five people. Josh touched four of his pre-teen sisters!!!! Admit it! That's part of what this was all about!

Judy said...

Actually, I thought it was very good. I think they handled it well and showed the amount of pain that Josh has caused them as well as better moments. And I don't say this easily, because I am not a fan of the Duggars, though I do find them fascinating.

Judy said...

I think Derick's jaw looks much better now that he's healing.

It looks like they decided to go ahead with the specials sometime in September or so, since they look like they started filming at the beginning of October.

I think it must be very hard to be the oldest child. That's not to say I feel sorry for Josh, but there was a lot of sentiment about looking up to him or not or wanting to be like him or not. I've seen this in other families -- oldest child (or son, at least) is to be idolized, oldest child/son is not to make any mistakes so that younger children turn out well, etc.

GJJ's mom said...

This was incredibly boring. I FFWD thru most of it this morning.

Stephanie said...

Josh did more than cheat on his wife. One of the kids said the word hypocrite which is exactly what has brought the Duggar empire to a crashing fall. They adult kids must know that the impact is going to trying change their finances and those same kids have memories of being extremely poor and memories of being extremely comfortable if not downright rich. Interesting that one of girls said this was the hardest thing they have ever lived through? More than Josie? I'm not dismissing Josie's struggle (I had premies too but she's ok now)

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s said...

My girls and I watched something else last night. The promo clips were all sad and everyone was crying, crying, crying. At christmas time, no less--so people can feel extra sorry for them. Why do they want that stuff out there? Oh, for the money! Almost forgot. It's their job to cry on queue.

Murphy said...

Poor Jessa, she worked so hard to get this gravy train back on the track and people still are more interested in Anna than her! (you know that's how she's looking at it)

Martha Washington said...

Well, since this family continues to be the train wreck that I can't turn away from, I watched it. I am not a fan, but fascinated by their mess. It was a tedious sobfest, IMO. But...it was refreshing to see the (all 18 yrs of age plus) adult children display actual, legitimate emotions. For once, the parents seemingly had no immediate control over how the show portrayed family relations. I believed the words of these young adults, and felt that the feelings they expressed were what they actually experienced. Nothing seemed plastic, rehearsed, or conforming to the image promoted by JB and M. The real people under the carefully arranged faces were actually detectable.

I think a promo for next time indicated that Anna fully intends to stay in her marriage. She said something to the effect of, I could take this mess and turn it into a complete disaster, which I'm sure in her view is what all divorce is, a disaster. Now if I were in her shoes, which thanks to an actual education I would not be, I would have moved my kids and myself to the helpful brother's home ages ago...

Tanya T said...

Who's house are Jill and Derrick staying in? That's not the house they moved into after their wedding? I noticed that it's the same kitchen that Ben, Jessa and baby Spurg were sitting in when they revealed their son's name on video.

KimmieH said...

Agreed Jinger was the most well spoken of the sisters. Also Jinger has become quite a pretty young woman much prettier & I believe nicer & relateable than Jessa or Jill. Of the nine Duggar girls, it's Jill & Jessa I find to be the most annoying.

IU HOOSIER said...

Toward the end of this Just & Like fest, Jill hinted that perhaps the Dillard family would increase to #4. I wouldn't be surprised because the Duggar women are obsessed with pregnancy & they have nothing else going on in their pathetic lives.

Leia said...

Also, did Derick's dental surgery affect his eyelids? They don't appear to open & close in sync. Not a fan of the Duggars but felt sorry for Derick as he looked unhealthy & miserable. Any one else notice?

Cedric said...

Just learned Figure 8 Films produces Jill & Jessa counting on. Personally I believe they should Count Them OUT!

too bad,so sad said...

Jeanette said.
Perhaps a proper ending for the series starring only the kids.
***************************************************************************************
What I think would be the greatest ending for the series would be a CROSSOVER!

First episode, Dr. Drew would swoop in and grab up Josh and get him off to a really reputable therapy center that focused on the treatment of sex addicts, the rest of the family would also receive therapy for living with the results of the molestation and the results of being sequestered and sheltered from the reality of the real world.

Then Bill Nye and Neil deGrasse Tyson from StarTalk would come in and get all the Duggars really excited about science and the Universe. Robert T Bakker, a Christian preacher could be included to talk about his specialty, paleontology as a guest.

The third and last in the series would be where professionals came in and individually counseled the older Duggars and their mates. They could do an extensive assessment where their individual interests and talents were found and then they would each be set on a path to follow careers that would fulfill their interests and bring in an honest income for their families.

Beautiful ending that will never happen on Reality TV! But one can dream.

Beth Anne said...

I did not watch the special, but the language Anna uses in the promos caught my attention: "It was heartbreaking to hear what had happened." That is a very passive statement that does not reference any individuals. A 'normal' statement would be something like, "I was devastated and horribly hurt when I found out Josh cheated on me." Instead, there is no "I, me, Josh," or anything of the sort. It's almost like, by taking out any personal references, the Duggar machine can label the whole thing as an "incident" to be referenced. Now, it does sound like some of the siblings named names, so to speak, when talking about the scandals and called Josh out directly, but I sure wish Anna had the guts to do so as well.

Dawn Whipple said...

My first thought was that the show was so boring they are done. I did have empathy for Ginger and Joe though. Ben has the personality of towel. Seriously, he has nothing to add, just came onto the family scene a 1 1/2 yrs ago or so, is 20 years old, and and has no reason to be on TV. Not to be so cold hearted, but I still think they the hypocrisy issues to address. Therefore, I really am not interested in their future milestones, or how they are living.

Mandy said...

From the comments I've read (didn't watch the train wreck)someone was smart enough to keep Jim Bob & Michelle off the screen, but I have a feeling they were lurking about.

Almost said...

I didn't watch the special but do agree that this does not bode well for the system of courting, side hugs, not kissing until you've been pronounced man & wife. How will Jim Bob handle this in the future??

LauraS said...

Why is it that not one of them even mentioned how bad they felt for Anna? It was all about how it affected the Duggar family, or them personally. I would think their first thoughts should have been for Anna and the kids. Oh wait, that would be a normal, human emotion. Those are obviously null and void in that household.

capslock said...

Did NOT want to watch last night but kept it on in the background while my husband and I cleaned the kitchen.

I thought Derick looked like death.

I said to my husband, "Oh my God - do you think he has cancer? He looks awful - so gaunt, thin and pale."

Joel replied, "I think he's taking care of the kid full-time and is exhausted."

I said, "Then what exactly do you think Jill is doing?"

Joel says, "Nothing. I'm sure Derick's other full time job is catering to her."

Thought that was funny.

In a nutshell, the show was beyond boring. Jessa only cares about Jessa and does not seem affected by anything - her words don't match her affect. She comes off cold and selfish.

Jill and Derick planning their mission trip. QUESTION: Did that last very long? I thought they left and took the donation money to travel to weddings, trips back home, etc.

A lot of HEARTBREAKING and a lot of LIKE. That's all. Hope the ratings are LOW and hope that I didn't contribute to them.

I am embarrassed to say that I am interested in what Anna has to say, and that is next week. I don't feel bad for Jill or Jessa. But, you can tell the younger kids are really affected by all this - they grew like weeds!!!

Ruby said...

One of the reasons I can't watch this stuff is because of Benseewald. I swear, I can feel my IQ shrinking listening to him speak. He can't form a coherent sentence and he is as dull as ditch water. That boy needs a quality education, a job and some life experience.

Janice in Mo said...

The resident dental advocate for Derrik:

I will assure you breaking your maxilla, the upper palate, is not an easy surgery at all. He did not have his jaw broken. There is a difference-top vs. bottom. This is a serious surgery as nerves can be damaged, non-union of the bones, sinus problems and infection. It takes a full year for the adult maxilla to fully fuse.

As one who has endured JAW surgery, I can tell you I would never, ever consider cosmetic facial surgery unless I was broken and terribly disfigured.

My educated guess is, he got braces to fix his bite. His teeth were not horribly crooked. If your bite if off, chewing is very difficult and may be why he was so thin to begin with.

My soapbox, is parents, do whatever is necessary to provide orthodontics to your children. These types of surgerys are avoidable if taken care of when children are growing.

As far as the show went, I think they finally addressed everything people wanted to know. They owned Josh's failures. Everyone spoke their peace. I think it was very well done.

Janice

Chloe said...

After watching just 2minutes of J & J counting, I thought the entire program had somewhat of a "dark cloud" hanging over it. I don't see the Duggars returning. There is nothing remotely interesting about promoting a Cult, lies & continual pregnancies. Every one knows Jim Bob & Michelle are unethical people who long ago sold out to fame & fortune. I don't believe the Duggars were Ever a ministry. Nothing about the Duggar parents Rang True. So I believe this 3 part series featuring Jill & Jessa is just a long drawn out boring good bye. Eventually all lies become exposed. Josh was the catalyst that got this train to finally stop. There's a verse in the Bible that states... "your sins will find you out". This is the case with the Duggars. I also believe all along that Jim Bob Duggar is a horrible abuser of his kids & a wolf in sheep's clothing. God dislikes heritechs & Jim Bob is the definition of one.

Judy said...


Benjerman is wearing his hair like Daddy Duggar.

Judy said...


They are not psychologically minded enough to realize that Josh has an overall problem and don't see to equate the incidents. And I think the reason why Josh wasn't on camera is because his Christian "rehab" goes six months and he entered in August, so he won't be done for another two months. Expect to see him film some sort of mea culpa/I'm healed segment next spring, and for Anna to be pregnant again shortly thereafter.

Judy said...



This was TOTALLY not a goodbye. This was a Hey -- we're still here! My guess is that TL will bring back STRONG numbers and then sponsors will come back.

I was happy to see The Little Couple will be back in January. Love them.

Annie said...

Darn! I do not have cable. I have to get this from another source. I fully intend on watching this debacle. I agree with an earlier post of "beaming it to every home in the land". I can't wait to see it.

Meme said...

Okay friends I have a quick question. My sister watched the special. She tells me that Jill just almost tripped over her words while discussing the Megyn Kelly interview, saying something like, "Jessa and I WANTED to tell the truth at the time..." Or something to that effect. Is this true? Did she really admit to lying? Dying to know!

Syndee said...

"OK so I DVRed it and watched and I have to say my gut reaction is why keep dropping Josh's name and not have him speak? Perhaps this is TLC's goal, drum up interest in the creep and do a special of his "repentance and atonement".

This just occurred to me when I read this, that maybe these are teasers to finally reintroduce josh. Like next week will say Anna is forgiving, then you will have to watch the third episode because Josh will appear. We haven't heard a word from Josh in the press, but I wouldn't put it past them that Josh has already been there and contacted him and the Anna-Josh situation is resolved...but they kept it quiet so that they could announce it on the third episode. Then people will want more shows.

Syndee said...

I have to mention the crying thing again too. Many men in the world have had affairs, and many of them have siblings. But for the siblings to cry about it?? Just so weird. Yeah, they can feel sad for Anna, but it makes sense to be angry at Josh, not tears. And if really they feel like crying, maybe that would be when they first hear, but for ALL of them to cry like many months after to hearing the news... They didn't all cry when they heard about Josie, which is much more sad.

Stephanie said...

LOL Bens hair totally looks like Jimbobs.
Remember when Jess and Ben first met? Look at the pictures, he had some stringy hair gel bangs. Jessa changed it for the better but those girls love putting too much Gel on the boys. bens hair is a version of Justun Beiber when he first became famous ten years ago. Bens iq has dropped since the the last time we saw him. He can't compete a sentence nor did he seem happy.

Jess seemed like she was trying too hard to be happy. In the interviews trying to flirt with Ben like before (he doesn't seem as interested as before marriage) then in the bathroom when Ben asked about eggs her answer was so contrived "sounds good to me" then producer asks her if the scandal taking joy away from her pregnancy she says "of course not" and laughs then a second goes by she says "what to say about that?" I think she meant "what do you have to say about that"? She really put on a show. Even Ben seemed a little down. What's Jessa trying to do?

Yes the note on screen left out Josh molested them

We only saw Michelle and Jimbob in the background. They must have great PR people to tell them to stay off screen after Megan Kelly.

All of them and I mean ALL of them can't enunciate most of their words and it's not their southern accent they just don't speak clearly.

They also need hair and make up for their interview, even the boys Josiah looks terrible I see that his mother still hasn't gotten him to the doctor and the poor guy is balding at least fix his skin. I was surprised to even see him in interview. I suppose everyone over 18 interviewed and that's cool. They all seemed sad except Jessa

Is it just me or does Ben seem like the thrill is gone? I always thought he had a high school teenage infatuation love for Jessa. now that they have been intimate maybe he realizes that it's not necessary the most important thing in life? He has no career, no education, a wife and baby to support, add to that the TV show money had stopped, he "works" for his father in law, everyone like us makes fun of him for being stupid, he had to watch a women give birth, he has to start changing diapers and Jimbob has probably already had a sit down with then saying he's getting a pay cut it getting fired sooner rather than later. I really believe Ben is over it.

Ruby said...

Capslock--exactly! I get the feeling that Derick is taking care of his kid pretty much full time, including the night shift. And Jilly Dilly Muff Muff is doing what????????????? Nothing of note, after all, she is a ¨public figure¨.

Just Me said...

I'm hoping that you're wrong about Jill & Jessa & counting not being a goodbye & that the numbers will be strong enough for sponsors to come back. However those of us who don't want to see ever the cult,lies & hypocrisy of the Duggars will find something else like a good book to pass the evenings.

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