Free Discussion, June, 2016

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Esther said...

Jackson who is a 4th grader just celebrated his 12th birthday. Jim the blob and Michelle commented that in 2 years he will have his learners permit. He will be in 6th grade and have a learners permit if he continues to do well with his home schooling.

Esther said...

The Duggars are selling cars in the front yard ofthe home with the pool. The cars were found on Craigslist list, thanks to Pickles.

Meme said...

To add to last month's comments about the Duggar kids seeking a new way of life, I don't see it happening yet. However, there's a funny thing that happens to parents. It's called aging.

JimBob and Michelle are not spring chickens anymore. And raising children, as we all know, requires ENERGY, especially if those children are young. We tend to mellow as we age. High energy kids + tired parents = not a good combination. So there is hope for some of the younger Duggars, that maybe Mom and Dad will not be as able to fight the good fight with them.

Look, I don't see control freak JimBob or doormat Michelle EVER changing their views on how things are s'posed to be. But it IS my hope that they will wear down a little. My mother once said that she and my dad were just exhausted by the time my baby sister came of age - and they only had four children. So maybe by the time the youngest girls come of age the parents will be exhausted like mine were. Anyway, they'll be outnumbered.

That Josie. She has all the luck.

Nancy M. said...

Could the older Duggar children be living under a form of kidnapping? I understand the older children are J & M's biological children but is it possible for them to be considered suffering from "Stockholm syndrome" under the harsh authority of Jimbob & Michelle, trained to obey and agree or suffer physical beatings?

sandi said...

Nancy,yes,I've seen posts from former kids of fundies where they say they were in survival mode,and didn't even realize it.I'm not sure it's a form of kidnapping,as much as it is brainwashing,though.Or perhaps it's both.JMO

Esther said...

Anonymous Meme said...


JimBob and Michelle are not spring chickens anymore. And raising children, as we all know, requires ENERGY,
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Meme, that is so cute....JimBob and Michelle raising children.....Honey, they don't raise children.....the sister moms do and the sister moms continue to do whatever the snarling ogre told them to do to raise their siblings.

Esther said...

Let's do a quick check in on the Duggars leader Bill GotHard and the sex abuse lawsuit against him....

"My actions of holding of hands, hugs, and touching of feet or hair with young ladies crossed the boundaries of discretion and were wrong,” wrote Gothard.

Read all: http://www.christianitytoday.com/gleanings/2016/january/more-women-sue-bill-gothard-iblp-alleging-sexual-abuse.html


The scandal goes back to before Jim Bob met Michelle!
http://www.recoveringgrace.org/2014/12/ibyc-scandal-in-the-news-1980-1982-2/

Living in Indy said...

Esther, pardon me as I fall from my sofa laughing. One of my nieces will be 12 this July & in the Fall, 7th grade. 12 years old in grade 4 is very disturbing. Just another stupid decision by JB&M to LIMIT the education of their children. In doing so, the Duggar parents maintain control of their children. It's a Huge Travesty & I hope one day their despicable methods implode & fall apart. Those two are a Joke!!

Stephanie said...

Similar to child welfare, if someone calls saying an adult is not safe at home, there are authorities who can get into contact with the adult and they will ask that person a series of questions "do you feel safe at home?" Etc. all the adult has to do is say "I'm fine at home with my family" it's not easy to prove neglect. How would someone even prove a Duggar adult is in danger? In danger of what exactly?
Do they have a bed to sleep in?
Do they have food everyday?
Warm house? Clothes?

Duggars pass all those questions.
Actually when it comes to the kids I don't think they necessarily have enough beds for everyone to sleep in which the state would require.
How about how many humans can actually live properly in the compound? Adults vs kids ratio especially now that there are as many adults as kids. And Josh and Anna and there four kids? Have we determined how many people actually live in that house compared to what the house was built for?

Grandma (does she claim residency there? I don't think so. By the way, why wasn't grandma on Jill and Jessaa show?)
Jimbob
Michelle
Josh
Anna
Mac
Michael
Marcus
Meredith
Jana
John
Jingle
Joy
(I can't do the rest)
Add maybe one more visitor/friend/teacher/helper or whatever they call a got are live in help now that Jill and Jess are gone.
How many people if we are generous?
26 people if you count grandma, helped and Josh's familiy.
Technically minus Josh's family -6
Minus grandma -1
Minus helper -1
18 total legally living there. BUT why does it feel like 26 are living there? Because we have seen it on TV.
THEY said grandma lives there.
THEY said Anna and the kids are living there and showed the clothes and mess.
THEY showed the little kids sleeping all over never in the same bed. And they showed baby Jordyn in a pack n play while Josie got the crib.

They can't have it both ways. Legally they are listed one way but they claim another.

Lydia said...

Esther, So, knowingly & going in re the Gothard scandal, Jim Bob & Mochelle CHOSE to embrace this depraved Cult. This information speaks Volumes. Jim Bob's decision to commit to the Gothard Cukt & it's disgusting leader says this guy TOO embraced the sex scandal. Well this makes sense given that Jim Bob is obsessed with sex as his actions always have proven by his dumb innuendo & inappropriate behavior with Michelle in front of Jessa & Ben at the miniature golf course. There is Zero authenticity & honesty withi the character of Jim Bob. This guy is minus every ounce of decency, credibility, integrity & dignity. Jim Bob Duggar IS NOT a smart person as is obvious every time he opens his mouth & spews nonsense & often lies. As both Michelle & he continually contradict themselves & never own their comments. This behavior is indicative of narcissism.

Katie R. said...

It is just so sad that Jim Bob is so jealous of what he can't do that he keeps his kids from doing it. Maybe he wasn't good in school but he should want his kids to do better than him....and I am not referring to the money he rakes in with his greedy hands as he gives that ugly, snarling fake smile.

I believe he is so insecure due to his learning disabilities that he was probably ashamed of all through school, that he wants to show that he can be better than others. He can father children but he is not a good dad. Don't most parents tell their kids that they can do anything and the parents will do everything they can to help them succeed?

This is like Dumb and Dumber. They should have to take parenting classes and a license to have kids.

Is John-David the only one who works and if so, does the Blob take his money or does he get to keep it? He is over 26 yrs old and forced by that taskmaster to live at home....while the Blob runs around like a little kid.

P.S. Josh better hope his dad never learns to read very well because he could be in big trouble if the Blob reads Deuteronomy 21:18-21

Meme said...

Esther: You are right, of course, about the sister moms raising the young kids. Guess what I meant / hoped is that JimBob and Michelle will one day tire of trying to maintain the stranglehold over their children. Surely it must be wearing trying to prevent 19 people from experiencing the real world on a daily basis.

Me and my pipe dreams, probably won't ever happen. I can see it now. Jordan is in the front seat of a young man's car. Young man's behind the wheel. And straddling the gear shift is none other than a long-haired, gray-headed Michelle. Sigh.

Christine said...

What's the source for Jackson being in 4th grade right now? Something someone said on the show, or him being shown working from 4th grade workbooks?

It would be interesting to know where Josh and Anna are claiming residency right now. After they left Maryland, they would have had to update their residency when applying for Arkansas driving licenses. I sort of remember hearing something about them buying a house in Arkansas right after the molestation hit, so maybe that's their legal residency? Still, even if that was there legal residence, I don't think there's any legal issue with Anna living with her in-laws. You don't have to update your residency information if it's a temporary living situation. It's not unlike someone who has two houses and lives in one for five months a year and the other (their legal residence) for seven months a year.

Karin Johns said...

Narcissists are not capable of empathy. The world revolves around the narcissist and how it effects him, not others. They want to totally control their surroundings, think highly of themselves, putting others down to make themselves look better. Could any of this description of a narcissist that is found on the internet describe Jimbob?

Esther said...

When Jim Boob Duggar did that nasty act at mini golf I doubt that Ben said anything to his parents about that repulsive pig. But there is a chance that Ben's parents and family watched Ben on TV. Can you imagine what they thought of it? I cannot imagine Grandma Duggar being silent when her son is so vile.

lisa mc gins said...

I do not think Josh and Anna ever sold the house they lived in before they moved to washington? I think they rent it to Ben and Jessa? I know Josh did own some investments? he owned the car lot property before he went to washington so maybe he gets income from realeaste like his daddy.

cat said...

The source regarding grade 4 was , I believe , their own birthday posting on FB Duggar family official page

cat said...

JB has a learning disability?
Or is that conjecture .

Just Me said...

Please, please people why worry about Jackson at 12 yrs. being at a 4th grade level? Michelle is constantly telling those kids that they can learn anything they want to during their lives,(enter sarcasm here) it doesn't need to be in a school setting. Just traveling the world is an education & they certainly have done that a few times.

Sabrina W said...

Josh can't be renting out the house he and Anna first lived in. It is Grandma Duggars house. Jim bob has "jurisdiction", as they say, over his own mother so he has taken over her house. Jimbob is allowing family members to live free in Grandma's house so they are obligated to him for the very roof over their heads. Grandma Duggar has been reduced to a room never shown on tv. It must be close to the Duggar laundry room, so she can keep those washers and dryers going 24/7. Hoping it's not a bed in the corner of the laundry room!! Grandma should be living in her own home, enjoying her later years with friends, not slaving away doing loads of wash every single day. My children did their own wash starting when they were about 12 years old to learn how to care for themselves. Jimbob should be made aware that slavery was abolished in the mid 1800's.

mickey said...

Really, I don't understand why the government had laws regarding limits for dogs and cats, and not children!

Not that I am advocating the extreme measures of communist China for family planning. But really, after six kids, there should be some sort of assessment for continued family expansion. Based on objective criteria, size of home, income.

mickey said...

Michelle focuses on their musical "talent". I play the piano, but I am still at basic skills. Just because you carry a violin, does not mean that you can actually play decently.

Serena said...

Blogger cat said...

JB has a learning disability?
Or is that conjecture .

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Jim Bob has made comments about how he didn't learn as well as others. Wish I knew which episodes to post. There were many other hints in the episodes, like when they were reading the Bible and he was asking the kids what it meant. No matter what they said he would just agree.

Jim Bob didn't graduate until about a month before he turned 19.

Esther said...


What was it about the house that Josh and Anna owned that got transferred to an attorney right after info began coming out about Josh
Benton County Records from June 2015 show Josh and Anna had a house at 17163 KINCHLOE RD SILOAM SPRINGS (Is that the one they were fixing up?)
Learned a lot from Pickles.

Katie R. said...

Anonymous Sabrina W said...

..... Grandma Duggar has been reduced to a room never shown on tv. It must be close to the Duggar laundry room, so she can keep those washers and dryers going 24/7. Hoping it's not a bed in the corner of the laundry room!!


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I had an image of them giving her a doggie bed to curl up on so she could get a little shut eye at night between loads.

Shame on that lazy bunch. Get those howler boys off their rears to do their own laundry....instead of them going to Harps and running around like a pack of wild wolves. If Jackosn is the youngest boy at 12 he is old enough to run a washer!

Esther said...

Wow! Look what I just found from 2006! Self-serving Dim Blob
http://www.arktimes.com/ArkansasBlog/archives/2006/04/27/the-duggar-plan

Cindy said...

Wow, just wow! I have been digging deeper into ILBP and Gothard. There are so many stories from former ATI students. HOW in heavens name do people get involved with this??? It's no wonder that JimPerv and Michelle are NUTS!

He is a sick man. God says NOT to change His word! He has twisted selected Scripture to suit his own depraved beliefs. He gonna have some 'slaining to do when he faces Jesus!!!

I was also reading more about the Pearls. I know the Duggars follow their techniques. Wow, just wow! Sticking an infant for crying!! The Pearls are sick, so are JimPerv and Michelle! The Bible also warns about hurting little one. Their angels look at the face of God. More 'slaining! Okay rant over!

Roo Doo said...

If Jackson is truly in fourth grade at age 12, there is a serious problem somewhere. If he has a learning disability, he needs to be in public school where he can get the kind of attention and help he needs. Heck, even a private Christian school (like Sponge Bob attended) would have more resources at their fingertips than any wisdom book-wielding wannabe teacher would!

This is something that should be tipping the authorities off. He is not progressing at the same level as other kids his age. Both my niece and nephew were homeschooled K-8. They took twice yearly tests to make sure they are on track. Are the Duggar kids not taking these (or similar) exams? If so, there needs to be some sort of questioning posed by the state board of education. And if they aren't involved, then there is definitely something wrong on both ends.

Anonymous said...

They did show Grandma Duggar's room back when Grandpa was still living. A room downstairs. Grandpa was in a hospital bed and Grandma had a bed beside him. The room was just big enough for the beds and that was about it.

Jackson has always been with the young girls. Justin who is the next above Jackson has mostly been with the other boys. Ocassionaly Justin and James would be included with the young group. Jackson has not moved with the older group which may be the reason for his delay in development. Hannie has passed him up. She also needs to move out of the young group.

Esther said...

I believe Pickles said Grandma has moved in with Deanna, since Deanna (Sponge Bob's sister)is getting a divorce.

Meagan K said...

The house that Josh had on Siloam Springs Road was quickly sold/transferred when the porno scandal broke. It was supposed that it was sold so Anna would have no place to live while he was in "rehab" leaving her no choice but the Duggar compound. She needed to be watched and kept "sweet" and not use her head and divorce the pervert.

Misty said...

Meagan K........are you saying Grandma Duggar is free?? No more wash woman duties?
Oh, sweet day!!

Christine said...

Roo Doo, different states have different requirements for homeschoolers. Some states require that the kids take tests each year. Some don't require any sort of assessment. Arkansas, I believe, is one of those that doesn't require anything.

I get the impression that Jackson's case isn't completely unusual in the Duggar family. There was an episode early on (17KAC?) where they talked about school and Joy-Anna was shown to be at least spelling at 4th grade level and she was about twelve. James was shown working on single-digit multiplication with Jill back when he was about 13.5 -- I think it was the episode when Jessa went to try on wedding dresses. That would put him 3-4 years below grade level in math and I think he was also a late reader. I think that one of the Duggar books said that the kids had to get a GED to graduate homeschool, but I could be wrong.

I really wish that Arkansas did require homeschoolers to take standardized tests. In some states that require testing, students can be sent to public school if they consistently test very poorly. There might be exceptions for kids with learning disabilities, but any Duggar child with a learning disability would be much better off in public school than in the Duggar homeschool because public schools are legally required to provide special ed services for students with disabilities. I'm not against homeschooling -- I'm just against the Duggar version of homeschooling.

Willow said...

Josh's house in Siloam Springs was purchased upon their return to Arkansas from D.C. There were numerous pictures posted on social media of many family members and friends helping with the updating of that house. Before they could finish and move in, at some point, more scandal was revealed about Josh and he went to rehab. The house was sold to a lawyer, IMO, so it could not be an asset in any lawsuits against Josh. I also believe, however, that it solved the dual problem of Anna being left on her own. We all know what that is about!! I have been so curious if they would get it back when Josh returned. So far, I have not heard anything about that. It seems they are living at the compound. I am a Christian for sure, but these folks are just SO different from any sort of way that I do or would live my life. Its like they live on another planet, but that's old news for sure! :)

Always said...

Re: Christne's comment about the Duggars homeschooling & getting a GED. It's so sad to learn that there are no standard tests in AR . What a huge disservice to the children who are homeschooled. As far as the GED goes, regardless of what the Duggars might write in one of their books, Michelle has said on camera, that some of the kids & she didn't identify which ones, had a GED. She said after they have finished their schooling at age 16, they can sit for the GED & "if" she has the time she will take them to sit for the GED. Now how she considers them finished with their schooling at age 16, I don't know, especially after hearing the ages of the kids & what grade level they are studying at, i.e. Jackson grade level 4 at age 12.
In my opinion,this is just another example of the Duggars saying one thing & doing another & who in the family is suffering..the children. Believe me, now the grandchildren will follow along the same path. Most viewers will remember how Josh proudly displayed his GED on the wall of his office at the FRC group in DC. Here were all these college grads working there & Josh with his schooling over at age 16, which is what the Duggars say about Josh's education achieving a position of, Executive Director. I guess Michelle had time to take him to sit for his GED. Of course I know he got the position or the PR his family would bring to the groups causes but still the Duggars will take & trample over anyone to achieve what they want. It makes me wonder if any of the girls have ever received their GED? Just because Michelle graduated from high school, I'm convinced she's doesn't feel her girls need any diplomas or GED's. After all, you can marry, give birth, care for a home without any formal education. Of course you never get to experience the things Michelle did in High school,cherleading, trips with the cheerleaders, all the fun activities. Just think Joy, it's prom time. Not one of the Duggar girls have attended a formal dance such as a prom . We know this because they talked about how they had never tried on those formal dresses when they went shopping for bridal wear.
We know these things, because the Duggars have told us this & expect us to believe them. They would never make it where I live, as not only are the students tested yearly in our school system, so are the teachers. There are severe penalties if entire groups are not at a certain level. Teachers are put on a probationary period based on their classes test results. This is public school & not private as some might think. As always friends, this is just my opinion.

Elspeth said...

Actually the house in Siloam Springs was bought before the first scandal broke. It was a bank owned foreclosure that they were allegedly going to use for trips home. They did move in before the second round of scandal.

Esther said...

Remember in one of the first ones Jill up on a top bunk blabbering away. She told how many boys and how many girls were in the family then belched out incorrect info proving her inability to do basic math. She
got all confused And looked pitiful.

Jillian said...

We call them Learning disorders or a learning disability but one brilliant educator who had a doctorate said that often it is not the child who has a problem; it is that too many teachers simply do not understand how to teach in more than one way.... Yet people learn in different ways.

Einstein and many others like him were thought to be stupid. Maybe Jim Bob is smart and some of us just don't understand him.

Chloe said...

Always: Your post very insightful. When I think of Josh at the FRC & that he hung his GRD certificate on the wall of his office, I can just imagine the behind his back snickering of the Collge Grads withi the FRC. Josh even more so educationally challenged than I once thought. I also imagine the Staff of the FRC are pleased that Josh is no longer within their organization. BTW: Definitely NOT a supporter of the FRC!

coleen said...

Where I live, there a lots of homeschooling families. I remember seeing them in the early 2000s, very happy and content with their lives esp. when the Duggars first aired. By 2010 that had changed. I now see many of the women working in places like Wal-mart, fast/casual food, nursing homes, and hospitals. I was in college a few years ago and I recall seeing a few women of various ages enrolled. I remember overhearing one young woman (18-19yrs) on her cell practically in tears because she didn't want to be in school and just wanted to get married.

lisa mcginess said...

something is wrong with Jill now her and derrick want to look for his grandma? posting it all over the internet? why would this be posted? keep it private? does everything about this family have to be told? who cares. they must have something wrong if the camera are not around.

Leeann said...

Coleen, Do you remember when Dr. Laura went from disagreeing with homeschooling to talking about how wonderful it was?

Is she even around anymore? And if she I wonder what she would think about that awful mess.

Leeann said...

Jill is trying to find mother-in-law's bio mp who gave her up for adoption. The woman may not want to be found. Cathy is what... 45 or so? Say the bio mom is 60 and had kept the secret all these years and busybody Jill who has nothing better to do wants to turn over rocks to expose her to the entire Duggar loving/ Duggar hating world.

Maybe Jilly Bumpkin is trying to help Daddy find a story for a big People interview.

Jill, leave it alone.you are being thoughtless and cruel.

Leeann said...

If the Duggars are desperately trying to find a new storyline how about
Jill cleaning house or something we have never seen done.

I thought since Jill seemed more motherly to her siblings that she would be so loving to Izzy but she almost acts like she resents him. Jessa, the ice princess, also surprised me with how loving she acts. Spurt smiles at her like he just adores her because she is so good to him. He is really starting to look like Ben.

Rudy Tecat said...

Maybe Jill is trying to find her MIL's Mom for a real reason, like bone marrow donation!

Elspeth said...

Given that the DOB that Jill posted would make the woman 90 or more, bone marrow is out of the question. Plus it appears she's been dead for years. In general it makes not much sense since any of them could have easily found the grave marker by looking online.

coleen said...

per "Anonymous Leeann said...


Coleen, Do you remember when Dr. Laura went from disagreeing with homeschooling to talking about how wonderful it was?"

Yes, I remember Dr. Laura. I think it was around 2000 she became evangelical, Republican conservative.

coleen said...

I think Jill's public request for Cathy's birth family may be a ploy for a 2nd season of Counting On. Also, CD is not 45 she's 59.

mickey said...

"I don't want to work, I just want to be married.".

Ha. It just doesn't work that way any longer. Women need to work.

When TLC wakes up, and leaves the Duggars in the dust, it would be interesting to see their lives 10 years later.

mickey said...

Please! NO! When will TLC realize that this family is toxic?

Mary Smyth said...

Jill & Derrick can privately look for the grandmother instead of trying to drum up new story lines & publicity for their most boring show. The grandmother most likely has a full life, gave up her child as a teenager and has no interest in being exposed to the public or her family about a past mistake. Jill, leave this older woman alone. A great show line would show Jill and Derrick doing projects to help the locals in Central America....and I mean more then singing at them and giving them a bottle of water or an empty school bag and candy. I have the feeling the local residents are above and beyond the mentality of the Duggars, look at them with curiousity and wonder what in the world this couple and all their strange visitors are doing in their town. When we believe the Duggars have hit the lowest they can go, they seem find new ways to go even lower in the public eye.

Ellen said...

See above, Granda's almost certainly dead. At the age she would have been had she still been alive, she wouldn't want to be dealing with this and probably couldn't.

Denisean said...

How would the grandmother be 90?! This is Derrick's mother's biological mother? If she had her as teen, she would like 75.

Ellen said...

Well, obviously, she didn't have her as a teen. It's an assumption to think Great-grandma was a teen. Women give up babies for all kinds of reasons especially decades ago.

Esther said...

They are howing the headstone of Cathy's bio mom who died in 1992.
So I guess the episode will show Jill on the journey to find Cathy's mom and then Jill standing over the grave gently dabbing the crocodile tears from the corners of her eyes, while she looks down at her notes and says something idiotic like "It is so surreal. We didn't even get to speak our words to her because she died in 1992,which would make her ummmm...yeah, when me and Derick was just little kids...and ummm....SNIFF! SNORT! HONK!...yeah, we just miss her terribly.

Esther said...

Mary Smyth said...

A great show line would show Jill and Derrick doing projects to help the locals in Central America....and I mean more then singing at them
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Singing at them.....Mary Smyth, that image is hilarious.
The Duggars always have to put on a show! Why don't they just treat people like they think they are equal and not above others and somehow more special?

Katie R. said...

Maybe Jim Bob told them the first of the kids to come up with a story for a big payday gets to get away from him for awhile....so Jill married Derick and got to go to CA. Jessa got out of his sight when she went on her honeymoon. Yet, they had cameras following them around.

Speaking of going on vacation and staying somewhere and I am not saying Jim Bob would EVER do something this low, but after reading Kim Komando talking about AirBnb and rental properties having hidden cameras to watch people I am creeped out.

Lydia said...

The Singing Duggars, so LAME. The Duggars cannot sing & when they do it's always religious monotone. Not impressive however very boring!!

Katie R. said...

Besides not being able to sing....not all play instruments. Remember Hannie and Jackson up there with violins, yet later Hannie said she and Jackson didn't know how to play so they are told to just pretend.

Jim Bob and Michelle Duggar claim the show is just about them living their lives; they aren't actors. So if it is reality....the reality is what, Jim Bob, that you are lying when you have them "play" for everyone and everyone gushes about how cute it is....and it isn't even true??

Esther said...

I think Michelle got sucked in at a very young age and he kept her knocked up so she felt that she had to stay with him. What kind of child support could he pay? He was a stockboy at a grocery store for several years. How could she have gone out there and gotten a job and paid a sitter while she worked?

I'd like to know how he went from stockboy to state Senator.

Elspeth said...

Jill's even more an idiot than I thought. Cathy had apparently already contacted her now deceased birth mother decades ago.
http://www.inquisitr.com/3168470/jill-duggar-searches-for-mother-in-laws-birth-mom-but-cathy-dillard-already-found-her-and-knows-she-wanted-an-abortion/

Katie R. said...

I wonder if Derick Dillard has started to realize that when you marry someone who has been VERY sheltered from the world that she might only be 11 years old mentally and it will take her years to catch up (if ever).

She acts like she is just playing all the time. Since she is married she doesn't have any responsibilities anymore. Doesn't have to take care of a herd of little ones so she just acts now like she is the child she never got to be.

I wish she, Jinger and Joy would quit babytalking! You are a big girl now Jilly Bumpking. Use your big girl voice and leave mama's voice alone. It isn't attractive...just like mama's ugly shoes with black "Grandma Walton" hose.

Lou said...

When Michelle donned a white wedding gown to have another weddin' to Jim Bob didn't he want her to wear the little girl puff sleeves (you know that babies to maybe 4 year olds wear) and she likes those sleeves on her blouses....well, maybe she does it for Daddy, like that rats nest she has on top of her head.

Why would Jim Bob want someone to wear clothes like a child...wouldn't that gross out the normal man when someone is "on call" to make herself joyfully available and she wears a "little girl" style blouse?

Michelle is pretty tiny. Maybe now that Josie is 6 1/2 she can wear Josie's hand-me-downs.

Katie R. said...

Esther said...

I'd like to know how he went from stockboy to state Senator.

6/04/2016 5:43 PM

Only in Arkansas!

Hello said...

I wonder what Cathy thinks about Jillymuffin trying to find her bio mom. Cathy found her years ago and her bio mom said she didn't want to see her and would have had an abortion if she had been able to. The Duggars will do anything to be able to stay on TV and collect a paycheck for doing nothing.

Captain Crunch said...

That little first house of Josh and Anna actually belongs to Grandma Duggar. BengermanBenSeewald and JessaBlessa 'rent' it now. Josh and Anna went to Maryland where they rented a house. Before the molestation scandal broke, Josh and Anna bought a fixer-upper in Arkansas for dirt cheap, like 60 grand. When the porn star came out and said Josh paid her twice for sex and she was pressing charges for him man handling her, the Arkansas dirt cheap house mysteriously got put on the market and sold. Hence, Anna and the quadruple M's stayin on the Duggar compound while Precious Joshie was locked up in 'faith based rehab' getting right with the Lord..and his family was on tv explaining his behavior because he wont/cant.

Sabrina W said...

How invasive and rude of Jill to snoop into her mother-in-laws private life and publicize it.
This girl needs to be doing some ministry/charity work in Central America. Isn't that what she is supposed to be doing with all those donations? It's amazing that after all this time in Central America, we have not seen or heard anything about their work, no photos, stories of projects.....nothing....only taking Spanish classes which Jill seems to have dropped out of.

Robyn said...

Fans say the Duggars are role models. ROLE MODELS??
Let us count the ways.

Feeling they are entitled to have everything handed to them without working?
Lying? deception
Fondling family member
Unhealthy eating
Mistreating / not honoring Jim Bob's mom and dad
Adultery
The love of money
Refusing to take care of your kids; expecting others to
Running over others and believing they are above others
Not helping the poor. Giving them candy and Singing at them in a language they don't understand while you are on vacation does not count.
Humiliation of others-toilet birth and anything Jim Bob can use to make money.
Twisting the act of makIng love into something crude and animalistic there on the mini golf course



life of their own.. said...

Hello, If the Duggars/Dillards know that the lady is passed away, they probably believe it is a harmless money making storyline. Maybe even Cathy is all for it and can use some cash herself for being part of the storyline. Who knows maybe this is a way to get back at her mom for saying she would of had an abortion and profit from being abandoned by her.

Esther said...

It might sound like Cathy is probably better off having known a woman with such a cold heart.....but what if she said she would have had an abortion if she could have because she was raped? She might have wanted to forget anything to do with a traumatic experience. We don't know the whole story but I do feel sorry for Cathy who must have felt rejected.

Jill shouldn't have made so public what was no doubt very painful for Cathy....but Duggars leave no cow patty untouched when digging for something to bring in easy money for their lazy hillbilly family.

Kit said...

Jim Bob wants his family to all look a certain way so he dragged Derick to have dental surgery. Derick looked just fine before and now the poor man is suffering and has been for over a year.

I don't understand why Derick had to do that yet he does nothing whatsoever about Jilly Bumpkin's gums. There is surgery for that.

Kit said...

Re: Duggars being anyone's role model...

Don't forget
Gluttony
The love of money

I guess this is a warning for us to beware of those who fan the Duggars if they are using this bunch as their role models.

Furious said...

In all the time I have known about the Duggar family & some of the horrific things they have done.ie showing Grandpa Duggar dying & then his funeral. The funeral for Jubilee,& on & on, I don't believe anything has made me more furious than this business of Jill invading her mother-in-law's private life & publicly exposing everything she can. It's enough to make you sick to your stomach. These wonderful Godly, Pious, Religious Duggars, should go to hell & not to TLC!

Meme said...

Robyn, you are so right about the abuse of the Duggar grandparents. I want to scream every foul word I know when I hear the references to "modesty". The only Duggar who has ever been allowed to have any is Precious Michelle, who even had her KNEES blurred while water skiing. Not so with Anna, who had a camera shoved up her rear as she gave birth in a bathroom. But the most unforgivable example will always be Grandpa Duggar. We all watched as he lay dying in a hard desk chair, being questioned though unable to respond verbally. I always well up when I remember that man's eyes. He KNEW what was happening to him but seemed scared and confused by the situation. He must have wondered why he was being paraded like a string toy. Remember the banana birthday cake they set out in front of him, knowing he couldn't possibly eat it?

Can any of us IMAGINE allowing a dying parent to be treated this way? Unforgivable!!!

Next time they pull a stunt like that I want to see Michelle's or Jimbob's bare naked @$$ in a close-up screen shot. Oh, and shame on YOU, Mary Duggar, for allowing your supremely ignorant offspring to disrespect his precious father that way. I''m done now.

Just Disgusted said...

Please somebody out there, give me a plausible answer to why Jill is looking for Cathy's apparently deceased mom who gave her up for adoption, because she couldn't have an abortion? Cathy already knows this information from looking up her biological mom yrs. ago. Jill is supposed to be doing missionary work in a foreign country, how does digging into her mother-in-laws private life benefit the extremely poor people in CA? Also shouldn't she really be working on her Spanish instead of getting involved into other people's lives. If this is so important now why didn't Jim Bob question Derrick about his mother's adoption & background before he could marry Jilly Muffin instead of asking how he was going to support Jilly Muffin? This whole thing stinks of Jim Bob having something new up his sleeve to keep the Duggars front & center.

Just Disgusted said...

Please somebody out there, give me a plausible answer to why Jill is looking for Cathy's apparently deceased mom who gave her up for adoption, because she couldn't have an abortion? Cathy already knows this information from looking up her biological mom yrs. ago. Jill is supposed to be doing missionary work in a foreign country, how does digging into her mother-in-laws private life benefit the extremely poor people in CA? Also shouldn't she really be working on her Spanish instead of getting involved into other people's lives. If this is so important now why didn't Jim Bob question Derrick about his mother's adoption & background before he could marry Jilly Muffin instead of asking how he was going to support Jilly Muffin? This whole thing stinks of Jim Bob having something new up his sleeve to keep the Duggars front & center.

Allandra K said...

Just in the past 2 years, so many disgusting, lying and hurtful things have been going on due to Jimbob, Josh and those 2 lazy married girls. Seems to me, Derrick & Ben are turning into victims....Ben not educated or working looking confused and Derrick convinced to get the painful jaw operation and could be hooked on painkillers, hence his wasted away looks. Josh's scandal must be just the tip of the iceberg. Josh is all smiling and happy now as he plays miniature golf like a child. He seems to have no regrets as he fools around in his car lot while simple Anna is deep in lala land, doing all she can do....eeeeek. barf!!...to satisfy Josh. At least Grandma Duggar seems to have escaped the laundry room. There is not much hope for the children without an education or skills to deal with the outside world. What will they be like when they are 40 years old. Still buddying up when they leave the compound, fat and sick for too many tatertots? The Duggars have the land to begin a large produce garden and nursery for their own use and sales. OOPs...but that means getting off the sofa !!!

Hello said...

If that is the case, it just proves that the Duggars don't care who they exploit as long as they get paid for it. They exploited Jboob's dad by filming him as he was dying and filmed his funeral. They exploited Jubilee by filming her funeral. They exploited Anna by making her give birth while filming. They exploited the girls by having them filmed getting their wisdom teeth out under anesthesia. Jboob and Mullet started it all by having their kids filmed for a TV show to bring in a paycheck. When they started filming they had a bunch of kids living in a three bedroom house and ended up in a huge house furnished with TLC money.

coleen said...

I'll give credit where credit is due. Marjorie dodged a bullet by breaking up with Josiah. She now has an online business (http://www.redbubble.com/people/marjoriejackson) along with working at Chick and her conferences. I doubt if she married Josiah she would have been 'allowed' to do any of this. Maybe she'll go to college next.

Lydia said...

Here's a list of the opportunities that Jim Bob & Michelle stupidly decided would never benefit their kids...

No REAL education
Older Duggar kids
No high school
No sports participation for boys or girls
No HS marching band
No HS choir
No Cheerleading
No opportunity to make life long high school friends
No attending high school sporting events
No cap & gown graduation
Definitely No college for girls

The Duggar parents promote "Sofa sitting", poor nutrition, courting (which is a failure) vs dating, continual pregnancy, the fallacy of Christianity, the Gothard Cult. No freedom for adult kids living on the compound, Jim Bob & Michelle need to be taken to task by some agency or authority in Arkansas. Jim Bob is a Narcissustic jerk who is not intelligent or authentic.

Esther said...

Anonymous Meme said...


Next time they pull a stunt like that I want to see Michelle's or Jimbob's bare naked @$$ in a close-up screen shot.

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Ewww...think about that one Meme. Do you really want to see his big ol: naked hiney? LOL.

Esther said...

Allandra K said...

What will they be like when they are 40 years old. Still buddying up when they leave the compound, fat and sick for too many tatertots?

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Oh, my....the image of that....too funny.

Just Me said...

Michelle came off as an idiot when she asked to have her beautiful keens blocked out when she was wakeboarding. Why wasn't Anna allowed the same privilege when she was giving birth on the toilet? These people are idiots. I find it unbelievable that people need to have a license to drive etc. but anyone can have children & then make a mockery out of them, all the while making money off of them.

Hospice Nurse said...

Re:Meme's comments about them showing Grandpa Duggar as he was dying. As a Hospice Nurse, I found those episodes appalling & didn't watch any until my co-workers told me about them. They really hit the bottom of the barrel with that. That poor man probably was on very strong pain meds & could barely hold his head up or speak. But they bring out the birthday cake which was ridiculous, as any patient at that stage would aspirate if he even tried to take a bite of cake. I have never understood why his wife Mary allowed the filming of her husbands last days & hours. They were not showing any love or caring for the grandfather they made a clown out of him. Jim Bob & Michelle acting as if they were giving the poor man wonderful care & showing him so much love. I've been at the bedside of so may patients during their last days & I notice the Duggars didn't have any outside help such as private nurses or Hospice Care. I'm sure they really didn't want anyone outside the family to see how that poor man was treated. I've seen families get into fights over the care & arrangements of their family member, but they eventually come to an acceptable agreement when they think about what their loved one would want. I still have never seen anything like the way the Duggars treated the grandfather. I hope the "Golden Gates" are slammed shut in the faces of the Dugars when their time comes.

Jane Lincoln said...

Right Just Me......I found it so not modest to show poor Anna in terrible painful labor, then pushing the baby out on a toilet. My heart went out to her then I thought tht poor girl must be out of her mind to allow such invasion into her life after wearing long skirts and no bathing suits and not letting a male doctor see her private areas. It was really up to Anna to say....enough...I'm naked from the waist down with the camera men staring into my most private parts, everyone, get out....someone take me to a hospital.

Esther said...

Hospice Nurse-
They figured it would be good tv as it was something new to show Grandpa dying. Jim Bob and then I think it was Jessa went on to diss Grandpa because he didn't go along with Jim Bob's beliefs. (No telling how much Grandpa knew about what was REALLY going on behind those doors.)

Robyn said...

I still think the real reason they have to have an accountability partner is so one of them doesn't slip and say something to someone outside the compound (or try to run away.) And if one of them got away and told the truth we'd know what he was really like behind that fake smile (grimace!)and behind Michelle's fake voice. (I have always hear to never trust someone who speaks in a fake voice or fake laughs.)

Jeanette said...

I was thinking of the Duggars this morning as I was reading the fantastic book PEFECTIONISM by June Hunt. They would so benefit by reading it. The definition of legalism struck me: Legalism is a striving adherence to religious rules and regulations with the false hope of earning righteousness. They have patterned their life after a false prophet with personal problems who controls his followers with condemnation if they stray from his rules. They have become Pharisees. They are now realizing, I hope, that you can follow Gothard's rules to a T and still not have life turn out the way you'd hoped it would. This is not why Jesus came - to be enslaved to rules. I pity them, their children, and their grandchildren. Makes me sad.

Robyn said...

Jeannette, Anna's birthday is coming up if you or someone wants to send her that book.....the Dumbards put their address on line.

Meme said...

LOL I completely retract my statement. Completely!

Leia said...

Robyn, the DUMBARDS. a great description & so true. Thanks for the laugh. Can't wait to read "LIKE FEST". Not!

Auggie said...

I suspect that TLC offers a bigger payout to be able to film the birth of the babies. I heard the women from Sister Wives talking about being comfortable with the camera man but the realization that anyone and everyone would get to see them in labour and giving birth was unsettling. So either TLC pays well OR it's part of some contract that TLC has had them sign.

Robyn said...

I had forgotten all about this incredible post: http://duggarswithoutpity.blogspot.ca/2015/08/saving-jim-phillips-comment.html

Excellent! It should be posted and re-post everywhere! The Dumbards are disgusting!

Cedric said...

Robyn, Seriously, the Duggars placed their residential address on line? How desperate are these Dumbards? I truly believe if given the right price, JB&M would sell one if their kids. Oh wait, they've already sold them OUT! Basically the same scenario.

Katie R. said...

Cedric....They have had their mailing address (so fans can send gifts) and their home address on line.

Where have you been sending the wedding and baby gifts, if you didn't have the home address? LOL!

Did love the exposé that was listed above: http://duggarswithoutpity.blogspot.ca/2015/08/saving-jim-phillips-comment.html

Robyn said...

Since there's been no word on renewing the series, the hashtag "#BringtheDuggarsBack" showed up on social media this week in an effort to get TLC to give it a green light. However, the rumor is that family patriarch Jim Bob Duggar started the campaign himself!

the tag failed to trend on either Twitter or Facebook ...

http://thestir.cafemom.com/celebrities/198484/duggars_in_hot_water_over

Cedric said...

Katie R.: I knew your post was young & cheek. Grifters do not deserve gifts. These LAZY DUMBARDS TLC needs to realize only the fundies who drank the Depraved Gothard way of life care about the dumb Duggars. Hanks for the laugh!

Christine said...

Old news to people who aren't me, but the Duggars have been sued five times over unpaid debts: http://radaronline.com/celebrity-news/duggar-debts-lawsuits-revealed/. One of the lawsuits was from 2007, shortly before 17KAC started. Yeesh! If you're going to tout debt-free living, you should at least pay your own debts or admit that you've had trouble paying off debts! The way the Duggars tell it, they imply that they've been debt free since Jim Bob went that financial freedom seminar back years before the first TV special (when they had 14 kids, so 2004ish).

Those poor kids. Those poor kids. They've been spoiled rotten and neglected all at once -- given all the material things that they want and none of the things that they genuinely need, like affection and discipline. Their educations are in disarray, their parents are enormous hypocrites, they're allowed so little freedom, and they're growing in up in what's almost a cult.

Why do Jim Bob and Michelle do this to their kids?! Josh at least has the Freudian excuse of having grown up in misogynistic Quiverfull cult with self-obsessed and half-absent parents who discouraged real education. It doesn't excuse his actions...but it makes them a little more understandable. Jim Bob and Michelle had relatively normal childhoods and the opportunity for education -- they have no excuse.

Jamison said...

Hey do you guys recall when Megyn Kelly interviewed Jill. & Jessa about Josh... During that interview Jill spoke the word "like" 32 times thereby demonstrating her Lack of education & communicative ability. Jill should learn to smile & not show her gums. It can be accomished. Jill is the least attractive of the older Duggar daughters.

Mrs Darcy said...

Please TLC NO RENEWING OF THE DUMBARDS OR THE "LIKE FEST". I would prefer to watch paint dry.

Chloe said...

A friend of mine who has logged on to Michelle Duggars blog said the people who maintain the blog recently posted their email address. So if you want to express your opinions to the two people who maintain the blog here is the email address..
DuggarFamilyBlog@gmail.com

Amie Lester said...

With all the older children not courting, it's obvious no one wants to be a member of the Duggar family. We know Jimbob is busily searching the internet for suitable mates. The fate of Anna, Ben & Derrick and the terror of Jill & Jessa's home birthing must have scared away even the most ardent Gothard followers. Soon Jana & her twin will be 30 years old, Ginger soon after with not many years left to birth babies. Plus Jill & Jessa have not announced pregnancies, which is a good thing considering unemployment and in Jill's case, the Zika virus. At least we are spared the weekly baby bump photos.

Ginger said...

The http://thestir.cafemom, isn't that the 2 women who are so fond of Michelle & they always have her calling in to their talk show?
Also Jane Lincoln, excellent post re: Anna's toilet birth or any of the births that were shown on TLC. Was Meredith's birth filmed & shown at any time or is that in the vault for future shows? I still don't know what to think about Anna. One minute I think she's a prisoner in the Duggar compound or in the Duggar family & the next minute I think she's just plain stupid. Maybe it's just my circle of women friends or relatives but I don't know any of them that would allow themselves to be filmed giving birth, perhaps by a close family member if the husband was in the service of our country & didn't want to miss the birth of his child although there is always Skype now. But to allow yourself to be filmed by an outside member of the immediate family i.e. the cameraman. Any woman who would allow a cameramen in to film such a private moment has something wrong in her brain. What do her parents think? I guess the real answer is she does what they tell her to do because it keeps the money rolling in. Did anyone see Jill or Jessa filmed in the same way. Most bloggers here said they would never show the modest Duggar girls giving birth in the same manner as Anna was filmed & you know what..they were right. Jim Bob wins again.

Judy said...

Watching the Bates, I can't help but notice they have professional-looking haircuts as opposed to the Flowbee shearing that the Duggars get. I also notice that the Bates girls do not dress or pick out the boys clothes. They look so normal without the pink oversized bowties and purple shirts and red skinny jeans. The Bates kids also can carry on a conversation without looking scared that they may go off-script.

Maggie said...

The Bates kids show personality and independent thinking. I think Kelly Jo has even said she is never sure of what some of the kids will say on camera.

Mindi said...

The Duggars have done many, many offensive things over the yrs. that their "ministry," has been televised but I cannot think of anything more disgusting than showing Anna giving birth in the manner it was done. Yes it was a disgrace to show Grandpa Duggar in his final hours, as well as the funeral for Jubilee & just too many more to even think about. But certainly there is something seriously wrong when a woman is shown going through labor with her first baby, while her husband makes the decision that because her female Dr. is out of town at that time; "why don't we have a home birth?" After all Anna had been in good health during her pregnancy," what could possibly go wrong even if it was her first baby? After all the experts Michelle & Jill arrived just in time for the delivery, so all was well in the end & set the tone for future televised births with the exception of course of when the Duggar daughters were in labor & delivered their babies. They showed us & told us what they wanted us to know, about how their labor & deliveries went. Each one of them had a reason that they were not shown delivering their baby the way Anna was shown delivering her babies.

KatieP said...

Hey Duggars, here's a concept... The K-12 on line homeschooling is a Credible Program. Most states it's tuition Free. I've researched the program & in comparison, the Gothard homeschooling program receives an "F"!!

Robyn said...

Thanks for the tip about http://radaronline.com/celebrity-news/duggar-debts-lawsuits-revealed

Here is my take on the shameful secrets Jim Blob Duggar and Michelle Duggar (aka Meshugge Dumbard) are desperate to keep hidden. (NOTE: According to the dictionary Meshugge or spelled Meshugga, either one means: Senseless; crazy).

The Duggars have always deceived everyone by claiming to live completely debt-free. However court documents show that, once again, these two have been untruthful.

They have had at least five liens and lawsuits for not paying their bills. In a 2008 Jumbo Bob bragged that the couple had been debt-free since they were “young.” (Define YOUNG, Dim Bulb....)“We don’t have any debt, so it makes it easier to live,” Jim Bob said.


I found this one most interesting:
~ A business partner sued Jim Bob Duggar(aka Jimbo Dumbard) for $8,800. (I'd LOVE TO KNOW WHO WOULD HAVE EVER BEEN IN BUSINESS WITH "JERBIL" DUGGAR. ...and yes, I know gerbil starts with a "G" but the kids all have "J" names like their sperm donor so I had to spell it with a "J". Just ask poor Jinger....whose name looks like it rhymes with finger .

Denisean said...

It's my theory that Jill is drudging up Cathy's birth mother as an anti-abortion stance... like my hubby Derrick wouldn't be here today if his grandmother had an abortion, thereby abortion is a sin, etc etc.

Also, do we know for a fact that JB encouraged Derrick to have dental surgery to improve his looks- it seems like that is just a rumor?

Katie R. said...

The mother and daughter who run the DuggarFamilyBlog will not let anything post that is in the least bit negative. I only said I thought that when the scandal broke that they should take some time off and not keep putting the girls (Jill and Jessa) out there. Since that Mother and Daughter who started that blog got themselves invited to be friends after the Dumbards were so impressed with that blog. So Mother and Daughter want their new best friends to stay on tv, deceiving the world. Shame on them!

Maybe people should help educate those two by sending some things we have discovered here. I just imagine though they sit there, wearing a blindfold with their fingers in their ears.

Esther said...

RE: Judy mentioning the Flowbee to cut their hair...LOL!
(Jill can't get the simplest things right, so here she preparing to trim DerickDillards: https://www.fugly.com/pictures/13869/flowbee.html

Chloe said...

Katie R. Now that the Mother & daughter enamored with the Duggars email address is posted, I encourage you to go for it. The fact that this Mom & daughter team only accept sweet sugary coated posts is not surprising as I believe these two women have drunk the Gothard Kool aid as well. Objectivity is a foreign concept to these two women.

Robyn said...

Anonymous Denisean said...


Also, do we know for a fact that JB encouraged Derrick to have dental surgery to improve his looks- it seems like that is just a rumor?

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Dunno. Jim Bob Dumbard drove Derick Dillard there.

Smokey said...

Speaking of role models, how are they good role models when they allow Jason to be filmed after falling into an orchestra pit. More concerned about getting pictures than helping him. How about filming Josie in poopy pants and having seizures. Filming grampa dying, filming Anna giving birth on the toilet. Telling the girls they are getting a surprise and their surprise is giving blood. ETC.

IU HOOSIER said...

With regard to the Duggars aka Dumbards, for some time have boycotted this ignorant program. I could barely watch one episode of Counting On. By promoting the Duggars, TLC sanctions ignorance, limited education, poor vocabulary & grammar, contradictory & dishonest comments, Lack of Manners, confusion, a fake ministry, inappropriate public behavior, the absurdity of courting, arranged marriages, no birth control, continual pregnancy, zero respect of women giving birth, zero respect of women in general & finally, a Cult that is depraved & a Lie on so many levels.

Robyn said...

Some have mentioned Jessa's hair loss. I found this:
Telogen effluvium is a common form of hair loss
Some common triggers for telogen effluvium (effluvium means “to flow out” or “run off”) include giving birth, miscarriage, general anesthesia/ surgery, serious illness or infection, certain medications, and stressful life events. Usually the stressful event precedes the hair loss by 2-4 months.
Fortunately, it’s temporary and the hair does grow back.

Meme said...

Ah, Anna giving birth brings back memories.......of horror! I have never understood the need to invite the neighborhood to a birthin'. People talk about it being natural. So is urinating, defecating and having sex. But we don't film that.......er, MOST of us don't film that. But here was a young Anna with the cameraman recording her in all her glory. Remember obnoxious Josh giving her instructions? "Unclench your little legs," or some nonsense like that. Because, you know, he had given birth himself many, many times.

I truly don't know what to make of Anna. She seems reasonably intelligent for someone with no education. She is articulate. So why does she allow herself to be treated with such disrespect? Anna is too old to be innocent. Doesn't she realize that her little children now have no one advocating for them? Their father is not a protector. And their mother chooses to close her eyes and pretend. Again, she is too old to be that innocent.

Robyn said...

IU HOOSIER

By promoting the Duggars, TLC sanctions ignorance, limited education, poor vocabulary & grammar, contradictory & dishonest comments, Lack of Manners, confusion, a fake ministry, inappropriate public behavior, the absurdity of courting, arranged marriages, no birth control, continual pregnancy, zero respect of women giving birth, zero respect of women in general & finally, a Cult that is depraved & a Lie on so many levels.

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Their fans seem so glad they have a leader (Jumbo Dumbard) and they follow along like lemmings.

Robyn said...

Meme said
I have never understood the need to invite the neighborhood to a birthin'. People talk about it being natural. So is urinating, defecating and having sex. But we don't film that.......er, MOST of us don't film that. But here was a young Anna with the cameraman recording her in all her glory.

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The way you say things makes me laugh.

Mellisa said...

Re:Smokey's comment about the girls being given the surprise that they were going to give blood. It was disgusting that Jim Bob kept saying as he drove the girls to the blood donation center, that he himself had never given blood before. So again the responsibility for their premature baby's health fell on the shoulders of the older girls. Those girls were not the ones that conceived Josie & if they wanted to donate blood for her fine, but they had no choice in the matter. So Jim Bob never donated blood until he was almost 50 yrs. old but the girls had to donate as soon as they were of age for the health of their parents premature baby. Again if they wanted to do it fine but they sure didn't seem like they wanted to, they were ordered to give blood for Josie. By the way I'm still waiting for one of the older boys to donate blood to the blood bank as Jim Bob promised us they would. Unfortunately, all the boys were still sleeping at the time they woke the girls up to go give blood. After all, it doesn't have to be for Josie, there are always plenty of men, women & children who need blood transfusions.

Andrea said...

"The mother and daughter who run the DuggarFamilyBlog will not let anything post that is in the least bit negative." Respectfully disagree. I've written a few more critical comments and they've gotten through. I also wanted to point out that the daughter is actually a University graduate. She went to a very large public university and actually graduated. I can't imagine that she's that interested in being "friends" with the Duggars . . . perhaps she sees it as a job? I mean, what women in her early 20s would be interested in hanging with Jinger, Jessa, Jenna or Jill, there's literally nothing of interesting about them. Their parents have stomped all ambition and interest out of them. I'm sure they can speak at length about the bible, child rearing, being on a second rate TV show, cleaning and cooking but outside of that, what? Oh, silly me, they can also cover being pro-life and the all mighty virtues of the republican party. Honestly, no one with half a brain could be interested in being "friends" with these people. The only "friends" they're allow are dimwits (similar to their parents) - Sierra.

Annie said...

regarding the post about the online schooling. Yes, it's available in most states and is tuition free and accredited AND the student receives an actual HS diploma. I live in Wisconsin and we did this for one of my kids for a school year. It was A LOT of work. Not anymore than regular school, or actual REAL homeschooling, but it required my child to be "at school" everyday, attending virtual lectures and doing his assignments on a regular schedule. He was in middle school so was more independent, but I still had to facilitate and help him on a regular basis. I couldn't imagine doing that for more than 2 kids. Especially younger kids. They would be more dependent on home help and we have all seen how that goes in the Duggar household. It was easy for students to fall behind and get expelled for not completing assignments. Which happened in the academy that my child attended. My child benefited, but we helped him along the way. I just don't see JB and Michelle being that involved. The kids would have to work with the schedule of the public school year. Granted, they could do the work whenever they wanted but that's also the danger of getting behind and ultimately getting expelled. But, those poor kids would have an actual HS diploma at the end. I cringe when I think of their "schooling". Work books from a department store would be a better alternative to what they are getting. At least all of the subjects are being represented. And they get stickers with them.

I watched the "wishing Grandma a happy birthday" video on youtube by Jilly and Derek. Jill did look on the edge a bit. I watched it silently just to see expressions and then listened. I really feel sorry for both of them. She is lost in marriage and motherhood. I don't think she knows how to do any of it alone. That must be a real shock from having all of those sister moms around helping and not having to take care of all of the jurisdictions by yourself in your own home to being the mistress of the castle and the wife. Derek may have known JB before he married Jill but he didn't know married life. Now they are both stuck. Poor little Izzy is right in the middle. As for Derek's physical appearance, I am a Dietitian and he does look malnourished. As my grandpa would have said, he just looks like he was dragged through a knot hole backwards. Like I said, I feel sorry for the both of them.

marlana. said...

I am commenting regarding it being natural to give birth, therefore the birthing scene can be put on display for all to watch. It is natural to be naked too but the Duggars must wear long skirts but it's okay for Anna to be filmed sitting on a toilet pushing out a baby in front of camera men but not go to a male doctor?? Nothing in this family makes sense. It's not modest to wear super tight shirts when pregnant. It's not very pretty to see the inverted belly button under the skin tight shirts both Jill & Jessa wore. Why did they not wear loose maternity tops? There are lots of cheap shirts like that in thrift stores.

Catlady said...

Reading all the comments for me thinking, Do you all think that the blood bank, the hospital, the oral surgeon and any other establishment have the right to say no cameras or is Jimbob king of everything! You would think the NICU would not allow all those kids, germs, camera people...

sandi said...

Catlady,I'm wondering if a generous donation was made to some of these places by tlc,in exchange for allowing the cameras/kids in? Just a thought

Jules said...

"Each one of them had a reason that they were not shown delivering their baby the way Anna was shown delivering her babies"

I personally think Jessa's birth was more graphic than any of Anna's births.

lisa mc gins said...

I wonder what happen michelle had all her children in a hospital. I guess if someone pays you want to be in control so having a midwife deliver you could have more control? I just hope and pray anna does not have any more kids and that tic cancels all this show and this family really sees their sin and decides to repent because they keep saying they love God. but the love money more and keep showing it more and more. hurts my heart as a christian to say this but this is what I see. the diggers lover would shoot me down for this.

Just Ridiculous said...

Re:Jules's comment I'm not sure if you saw her first delivery but the labor was just awful, both painful & very long & her wonderful husband decided "why don't we have a home birth." There they were two young people with no medical knowledge & no medical personnel there with them & "he decided" she should go it alone. They did call the good for nothing doula after a number of hours & then Michelle & Jill arrived a the last minute from the homeschooling conference they were attending. I would have been petrified if that was my first experience with child birth. Maybe we didn't see all the blood but Anna was screaming that she couldn't do it she needed help. Josh addressed the camera & said "I explained to Anna that she could do this." It would have been an only child if that was my experience

Just Me said...

Re:Catlady's comments about cameras in the NICU & at the Oral Surgeon's office.I remember at the time there were many, many comment about why the cameras were allowed the NICU. Perhaps the oral surgeon was in charge of whether or not filming was done in his office but s far as the hospital goes I still think that's anyone's guess.

Just Ridiculous said...

Re:lisa mcgins comment about Michelle having all her children in the hospital. She had most of them in the hospital but did have few, I can't remember how many at home. Probably because she always had to wait for Jim Bob to have a hearty breakfast before they left for the hospital. I remember one episode where Michelle had thrown herself over the back of an upholstered chair in the living room, due to the severe pain, but they had to wait for either Grandma Duggar or Jana to prepare Jim Bob's breakfast before they could leave for the hospital. Jim Bob carrying his heaping plate of food to the car to drive Michelle to the hospital. Then Michelle rode in the backset & one of the girls rode in the front with Jim Bob I would think just the smell of the food in the car would make things worse for a woman in the last stags of labor. I would have called 911 before,I waited for my husband to get his breakfast prepared for him. This was for the delivery of a baby Jim Bob, not for the delivery of the newspaper!!

Susie said...

No more Bates for me after watching a toddler (Jeb) excluding all girls including his mother from his birthday party. His parents approved and thought it was cute. Sick.

Just Unbelievable said...

Re:Catlady's comments about the possibility of a huge donation being made so that the Duggars& or TLC could have their way again & film in some of the places that they did. I'm sure the Oral Surgeon had complete control over whether or not cameras were allowed to barge into his office. He must have said they could film. I'm not sure if he received any compensation other than the publicity, but that was a fairly large office, in fact it looked more like a small clinic, so there must have been other patients there & I would think they would need to sign some sort of release just in case they happened to be in the filming. The same goes for the nurses. Just what you want & need in a sterile environment, a large group of Duggars along with their cast & crew in a an office when surgery is being performed. As far as the filming in the NICU, I don't think anyone ever understood how they could be filming there constantly, when Josie was a patient. After all there were other babies in frail condition in the NICU whose names were not "Duggar." If my baby was in that NICU, I would have gone directly to the Hospital Administrator but I would probably find out that Jim Bob & crew had been there long before me. If it were possible, I would have had my baby transferred to another hospital even thought it meant I wouldn't have the luxury of Michelle praying over my baby as well as Josie. I can say my own prayers for a sick baby. To sum it up, absolutely money had to change hands when filming is involved in what is an intensive care unit or environment. The Duggars took over that hospital in Little Rock, as if it was there own personal property. Jim Bob & the way he barges in where he isn't entitled to be, is just one sick man & has his whole group following him, i.e. the Bates were there in the NICU as well, as many of the older kids, although not the really young ones. I guess the hospital had to make it look like thy were enforcing some sort of weak rules. I know it's just my opinion.

Wednesday said...

Re Just Unbelievable: You are spot on your take on the NICU. We spent a long time in the NICU with my youngest, and it was one of the most miserable places on the earth. There were babies so frail and sick that they still haunt me. There were parents who were tired out of their mind and could barely hold it together but were determined to have every second they could with their baby. We even had the horror to witness 2 babies passing away. How dare the Duggars go into such a place with a camera entourage and distracting parents and nurses from caring from very sick little babies. Not to mention the extra germs; we couldn't even cry because if we touched our face then we would have to re-scrub. I am horrified that the hospital allowed them in the NICU, what kind of money changed hands? The publicity couldn't have been worth it, most hospitals have a lot of fundraising and donations coming in. What if the distractions caused a medical error? But once again it was all about the Duggars. Everyone else just gets run over by this 3 ring circus.

s said...

So now Ben reappears not with his stupid rapper hats but as Charles Spurgeon reincarnated--complete with black dress shirt and dorky pink bow tie.Ugh. He doesn't know who he wants to be when he grows up.

Kalma K. said...

The Counting On episodes were painfully boring because these young adults are becoming absolutely dull as they do not interact or educate themselves. The show could have been fantastic, showing the mission work Jill & Derrick are doing which would send out some positive religious messages. I thought TLC sent Jill & Derrick to CA for a new story line but obviously there is nothing going on with them except the speculation about Derricks appearance and Jill's depressed ways. Will we ever discover why Jill & Derrick suddenly left the nice big house full of the wedding gifts they begged for,looking forward to having many babies to satisfy the Gothard way. Now they are living far from home where the Zika virus can cause birth defects so it would be insanely risky for Jill to become pregnant. No pics of the work they are doing have been posted and we all know they'd be bragging on their achievements if there were any. Also....someone please have a talk with Ben and encourage him to get some training and a job. No, he's not going to make it as a religious rapper, LOL. He's not qualified to be a preacher and advise others how to live their lives when he has no life experience, no real education and never held a job other then doing chores for Jimbob. Where are his parents in all this?

Mary Turner said...

You are right, Kalma. They boasted about giving women a bottle of water after walking in the jungle heat to hear the Duggars sing. That's about all I've heard about their mission work.
A bottle of water and a song seems to be the extent of their work.

Roo Doo said...

Before Jessa, Ben was in community college and worked a job repairing broken windshields. He seemed to be moving in the right direction. At least he finished college. But as far as the current job goes, he is now just a minion for Sponge Bob.

Jeanette said...

"He doesn't know who he wants to be when he grows up." We all had growing pains, but we had the luxury of anonymity. My heart actually goes out to Ben. He fell in love, but didn't get to have any private time with his girlfriend to get to know her. It was assumed if they did anything - a picnic, a trip to Smoothie King, etc - it would end in sex. I think Ben is completely confused with this controlling family. I believe he loves Jessa, but he's stuck. I would love to see them move away and get to decide what works for them. I would love to know if both Jill and Jessa are on birth control, as there are no babies coming yet.

Just Unbelievable said...

Re:Kalma K wondering about where Ben's parents are in all this. I think initially Ben's dad was just as delighted as Anna's dad was when she became engaged to Josh. Anna's dad was like the cat that swallowed the canary, all smiles walking around saying "we don't just like the Duggars because they are on TV but because they are such wonderful people." When the first scandal re:Josh came to light, Ben's dad wrote a letter supporting Josh's "teenage mistakes." I'm not sure if those were his exact works but in essence that's what he was saying & of course that's the way the Duggars refer to it. After the second scandal with Josh, re:addiction to porn & prostitutes, I don't believe he has backed Josh up again. Anna's dad has said nothing publicly, at least nothing I have seen or read. He would rather see his daughter living in the gutter than for her to step one foot off the Duggar compound or out of their sight. Anna's mom has never said much & as far as Ben's mom goes, I don't think she was all that pleased that her son, a teenager was marrying, but of course she has to follow her husband, just like they all do. When it comes to Derrick, who knows what his family thinks? He was brought into the family by Jim Bob under the guise of being his "prayer partner." I guess it was Jim Bob's way of testing him to see if he was fit to become a member of the Duggars. I don't think we'll hear anything from the Seewalds. They will never admit they made a serious mistake letting their son marry into the Duggar family but I have a feeling they're not all that pleased now. I don't even know how or where Jim Bob found Ben & decided to bring him into the clan. I imagine it was through the homeschool conference, as it was with Anna. So to sum it up they are all sitting around like a bolt of lighting hit them & wondering what kind of life their son or daughter will end up having. Truthfully they are all aware there will be no way out of Jim Bob's clutches. What Jim Bob wants Jim Bob gets & the rest of the world can go to hell!

Just Unbelievable said...

Re: Wednesday's comments about the NICU. Since you had the unfortunate experience of having a baby in the NICU & spending practically day & night there, I wondered if you ever noticed, as I did, when the Duggars were there for Josie, they never "scrubbed up" the proper way. You would see them put on a gown that didn't even cover them & they never had the cuffs pulled all the way down. The cuffs are supposed to come down at least to your wrist. Michelle also always had all her jewelry on & Jim Bob always had his watch on & as well as having his phone & was constantly calling someone. They should have been scrubbing up for at least 5 minutes before handling that baby. Although I complained about the Bates being allowed in the NICU, I did notice that they both scrubbed up properly.

Elspeth said...

Ben finished community college not regular, full college.

s said...

I'm not giving Ben a pass. He is a grown married man and a father. It's time to make some decisions that effect his own wife and child in a positive way and not try to please his ridiculous excuse for a father-in-law, Jim Slob.

coleen said...

per "Anonymous Wednesday said...
Re Just Unbelievable"

The woman who was in the nicu with her son when Josie was there wrote about it on her blog.

http://samuelpope.blogspot.com/2012/09/getting-to-know-duggars.html

Misty Jane said...

How could Ben get a degree from a college? He was teenage groom, married at 18 or 19 and living on the Duggar property in a shed doing odd jobs for Jimbob before his marriage. How would he have graduated from a traditional college? I do recall he got some quick degree from a religious academy .....nothing he could use to get a job. Ben could go back to replacing windshields if he wanted to work. It's an honest job and brings in more money then doing nothing but I sense Ben has caught the lazies from being around the Duggar family and feels he's now too good to work a regular job among the sinners of the world.

Mrs Darcy said...

It's evident that while Ben was in community college, perhaps he never took a class in English or speech. Ben has the communicative & vocabulary skills of a 12 year old or less. During community college apparently Ben never achieved outstanding scholastic honors. If Ben Earned an Assiciates Degree, then what major did he purdue? Why isn't Ben gainfully employed? From what we've learned, Ben is just an Errand boy for clueless Jim Bob. This means Jim Bob controls the marriage & lives of Ben & Jessa. There is no Escaping. The imprisonment of each Duggar kid. It's just so stupid the way in which the Duggars live or rather exist.

Christine said...

Jeannette said "We all had growing pains, but we had the luxury of anonymity."

Oh my goodness, so true. When we were being obnoxious teenagers or young adults confused about what to do next, only our family and friends knew about that. Our awkwardness and less than perfect moments weren't being broadcast to the entire nation. I have less sympathy for Ben than the Duggar kids, because Ben chose to date a reality star, while the Duggar kids didn't get much of a choice about whether or not they were going to have their lives filmed for a decade -- but I still have a lot of sympathy for Ben.

I'm a little confused about why Ben doesn't go back to repairing windshields. Not a great job, yes, and likely didn't pay too much, but no doubt it pays better than working for Jim Bob and it has more career opportunities. Maybe Ben working for Jim Bob (probably for little pay, given Jim Bob) was a condition for him and Jessa getting the house?

Also said...

Re: Ben's college experience. It was also not a mainstream college.. it was some sort of on line but Christian based Community College mostly Bible based.

Also said...

Re:Kalma K's comments. I don't mean to offend anyone, I also thought the Counting On Shows, were boring. However I believe it's going a little too far to say they ever could have been "fantastic" no matter what Jill & Derrick were shown doing. I truly believe & it's only my opinion, the reason they didn't show Jill & Derick doing any real mission work is because, they are not really doing anything of substance at all. Again I apologize if I have offend anyone.

lisa mc gins said...

Ben used to work at a state farm office learning a lot and was in a four year university. his family should have said no to him seeing Jessa digger. sorry but his father never was their for ben and did not step in when he should have. I would not let my son drop out of college and marry at 19. my son is the same age as ben and will be graduating from college and has enjoyed a full life. Ben seewaled needs to move away from daddy digger and get his life going.

Elspeth said...


Ben used to work at a state farm office learning a lot and was in a four year university.

Ben did work at an insurance office on Central in Hot Springs, AR, but the school he attended was nearby National Park which was a two year community college.

Elspeth said...


Re: Ben's college experience. It was also not a mainstream college.. it was some sort of on line but Christian based Community College mostly Bible based.


Let's stick to the truth, please. Ben's first two years of college were at a PUBLIC community college. He graduated from there. It's now that he is attending online at a Bible based college for possibly a degree preparing him to be a pastor/preacher.

Also said...

I apologize for my mistake re: Ben' education. I should know better than to read all these various comments on social media. Aging I'm so sorry.

Denisean said...

It doesn't matter if Ben has a degree from Harvard... he is not doing anything! Derrick has a degree too, big whoop- they are all sitting around doing nothing.

Wendy Heusel said...

doing nothing and I blame his parents that should have stepped in and said no to him marrying at that young of age and dropping out of college and moving into the digger household.

coleen said...

Per "
Blogger Wendy Heusel said...

doing nothing and I blame his parents that should have stepped in and said no to him marrying at that young of age and dropping out of college and moving into the digger household."

Wendy, I think the Seewalds had an infatuated love affair for the Duggar family. They probably felt it was a wonderful opportunity for Ben.

ramona said...

I think Ben's family were very excited that their son would become a television "star", have magazine interviews and they were also pleased to be included in a few episodes and probably paid well. Those were to good old days before Josh's scandal and the show was cancelled. Now is the time for Ben to get a job, be a man and not hang around with the girls taking selfies.

Just Unbelievable said...

I remember when the Duggars finally had the big dinner of tatter tot casserole with the Pope family. First of all, it was rude of them to ask her to help in the kitchen preparing a meal since the Popes were guests. I also remember that Sara Pope did talk to the media sometime after that & said she was told by the camera crew to back up her vehicle & drive back into the Duggars driveway a couple of times for their filming. She was given very specific instructions about what to do & how to do it, while she was a guest at the Duggars, because they were filming.

Wendy Heusel said...

well we should not just look at a small picture but a large picture of our lives. and Ben father was always praising the duggar family. I would never let any of my kids get near that family. people think they are so great being on tv and having my name all over the internet is not what I want for my family. They say they have not changed yes they have and they will never say that or see their sins. I honestly wonder if they have a pastor that cares and tells them to shut it down. any good Christian friend would do that if they really cared about this family.

Smiling said...

Andrea,
The women who run the blog you mentioned when you said they aren't friends of the Duggars.

Lol!

I know the mother and daughter and they ARE good friend of the Diggers. They go to their house, weddings and have had lots of pictures with them.

Maybe you were thinking of someone else?

Meme said...

Well, friends, I have always said that I did not understand why those family members just outside the immediate Duggar family did not speak up or put a foot down every once in a while. Think about something. How much life experience does someone like Jessa Duggar have? She's chased kids, cooked a meal, and gone on supervised vacations with her family. She schooled at home, grew up and then married young. She now expects to live in a house with her husband and have many, many babies. It's all she knows. Has she ever worked? Has she ever been handed her first monthly paycheck, paid her bills and lived off of the 50 bucks left over? Ever had 2 weeks left at the end of the month and wondered what the heck she was gonna do til the next paycheck? Okay, that was me (or you!) or all of us. But not young Jessa (or Jill). Or Anna or Josh, etc. Yet they are all living pretty well, in houses.......instead of crappy apartments. They don't think about food, they don't have to. They don't put money in little envelopes marked RENT, FOOD or GAS. They don't rob from one envelope to be able to splurge on pizza. Or overspend on a shopping trip and eat beanie weenies or ramen noodles for lunch for weeks afterwards. The point is that none of the young adult Duggars have had these experiences and have no idea what is ahead of them. God forbid something happens to Daddy SpongeBucks. What would they do? And what, praytell, is this next generation going to live on without the television show money? SpongeBob and Michelle were barely keeping everybody fed before TLC came along.

Anna in particular worries me. With Michelle as her role model she is hellbent on reproducing as much as possible. In summary, if I was Derick's or Ben's mother I would very much have something to say. Somebody swat these people with a reality stick before the second generation discovers that that no debt way of living doesn't or can't apply to them anymore, and it bankrupts us all.

Esther Cushing said...

The Duggar family is nothing more then a cult run by mind controlling, self appointed ruler of his kingdom, Jimbob. TLC should not be putting any of this family on tv. We were all horrified by the Warren Jeff cult scandal where women are used and abuse with no say in their lives and news reports were not sympathetic to that cult. In the Duggar cult, children are taught from the day one to follow the rules of Jimbob. The photos of toddler Israel suffering & screaming while tightly bound in blanket on the bed, the cruel blanket training of naturally curious babies, the rod that is recommend to be used on older children to beat out any possible transgessions, all serve to destroy any individuality and creative imagination in a child. These tactics make children follow the cult directions due to fear of pain and the threat of spending eternity in hell it they don't follow the self appointed ruler's intimidating and invasive rules and regulations. By the time they are adults, they are indoctrinated puppets who speak the same words and are fearful of venturing out on their own to explore the world or dare to have dreams and hopes. I feel that Derrick is another potential cult leader and Jill is now a victim of him as well as her father. I am sensing we will hear much more about Derrick in the coming years as he creates his own kingdom. Could this be the reason Dillard ran off to Central America...to create some religious paradise where he is ruler, controlling his followers? He does have those "wild eyes" now in photos. A delusional ego may be emerging, perhaps due to his years of being friends with Jimbob.

laura said...

Now that Jim Bob and Michelle have spoken up in addition to Jessa and Bin about the Orlando shootings in the calculated manner they did, it feels apporpriate to say they just can't be normal, empathetic humans towards this sad event.
They are 'tactfully' pushing their Agenda in this time of grieving.
IMO they are joining the group of hateful, backwards, closed -minded people who have been making comments along the same line.
This is the end of the line for them. I have this sneaky feeling those Duggars sitting in their isolated, cultily crafted world actually believe it is the victims fault.
They didn't have to say anything. Out of all the terrible things people do to each other in the world, they chose this event to make a statement about.
Think carefully about this, it speaks such volumes about their character and attitudes towards others.
If TLC renews Counting On Crap I would be surprised and angered.
Inconsiderate, uneducated, unthinking FOOLS. It is truly disgusting. A herd of dumb cows, but that is insulting gentle, intelligent cows. I can't compare them to any animal because they are stupider(yes that's on purpose) than anything besides those who have the same beliefs.
They are making it about them and standing apart from the solidarity people from different beliefs and walks of life all around the WORLD are showing.(obviously excepting certain murderous, hateful groups in certain countries hell bent on destroying everything)
Anytime in the future I feel like feeling sorry for them, which I do, I will remember the hate and unacceptance towards people (and life in general) just living their lives(which cults do).

1 John 4:19-21 NIV
We love because He first loved us. If anyone says 'I love God' and does not love his brother, he is a liar, for he who does not love his brother and sister whom he has seen, cannot love God whom he has has not seen. And this commandment we have from him: Whoever loves God must also love his brother and sister.
The young children-SOMEONE GET THEM OUT OF THERE NOW!!!

Just Unbelievable said...

If someone knows a mother & daughter who are really good friends with the Duggars, so much so that they go to their house, you would think they would know how to spell the Duggars name. Also attending one of the Duggars weddings means nothing to me. If you have up to 1,000 & or even 1,500 guest at your son or daughters wedding, you can't possibly be very close friends with all of them. I wonder how many bloggers would be inviting a least 1,00 or more of their nearest & dearest friends to their son or daughters wedding.

Evanna Lane said...

Can't Jimbob find mates for the older children who will soon be pushing 30 so they can bring forth more Duggar babies? Why are the older children not "a courtin", side huggin and creating wedding list so they can get expensive appliances, rstaurant gift cards, free soda & candy for wedding gifts like in the good old days? Wonder if Jessa uses any of those kitchen gadgets she received. They've joked and teased about a courtin but seems like they can't find anyone to spark new interest in the show/family. Are they being shunned?

Dana said...

Just unbelievable,
I believe Smiling was doing a play on the name Dugger when he/she wrote Digger. It is like people saying Sponge Bob or Dim Bulb.



Laura, " Stupider".I like that. It is funny when we are discussing Jim Blob Dumbard. Now I will think that every time Dim Bulb says Michelle and I's..

sandi said...

Laura,that was well said.All of it.
And for the Duggars to not even place the blame where it belongs, is a slap in the face to every American,and to everyone who has ever been victimized by a terrorist.JMO

lisa Magines said...

after all this stuff with josh I do not think any parent would want to give their child to the duggar family as a husband or wife? and I do not think the duggars have any close friends. if you hide your kids at home they will never have close friends. I know people that home school in groups and they have friends I do not see this in the duggar family. only friends you see are those they meet once a year at that home school conference from that cult they attend.

roddma said...

To anyone who thinks the Bateses are better:http://starcasm.net/archives/170065

Note Gil say she loves America because of the tax breaks. They also got a lot of free stuff and services no one should get free. There's old Bates blog post thanking the ones who helped with the house. I know I would be irate if I were a resident of that town because no one should get utility services cut on for free.rvices. They may claim to not know what the kids will say, but it could get corrected off camera. The thing is I don't trust anything the Bateses or Duggars say.

Lydia said...

Laura, one just can't fix stupid & clueless which is the mantra of the Duggars. Late Tues, I sent an email to TLC reminding them about the stupid remarks made by the Duggars with regard to the horrific tragedy in Orlando. I hope this is finally the wake up call for TLC.

Riley said...

Home schooled children are usually tested yearly to determine if they are up to standards for their age, ejoy educational class trips with other home schooled children, belong to home school sport teams, attend youth groups at church and go to summer church camps. The Duggar children have none of these usual advantages. What did Jimbob think would eventually happen to his isolated children? They are now unprepared to care for themselves or function normally in the outside world and he seems unable to locate mates for them. I sense Jimbob's world is beginning to crumble. The next 5 years will be interesting.

Clearly said...

They can't seem to realize they keep digging their hole deeper themselves by their social media posts. Maybe they need to pray about accepting the responsibilities of their actions.

Andrea said...

The Duggar's Facebook update is yet another example of this family pathologically wanting, craving, needing attention. Seriously, unless they have the IQ of an ant, they must have realized that status update with a judgey bible verses would cause controversy.

For those that wondering but not wanting to troll their page, this is what the Duggar's posted, James 4:7-8
"Submit yourselves, then, to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you. Draw near to God, and He will draw near to you."

The bible passage continues with the following, although the Duggar's didn't post to their page James 4:8-9: "Cleanse your hands, you sinners, and purify your hearts, you double-minded. Grieve, mourn, and weep. Turn your laughter to mourning, and your joy to gloom."

As far as I'm concerning, whoever posted this needs to seek professional psychological counselling. I'm literally petrified of Jim Bob, Michelle and Josh and wonder what damage they have inflicted on others in their family. I wonder who actually posted the status update? Does one of the adult children post status updates, photos, etc. or is it some PR person working for TLC or the Duggars? I suspect that it's a combination of the children, Jim Bob, Michelle and a Duggar employed PR school drop out with occasional input from TLC. Anyone else have any theories?

Mrs Darcy said...

Jessa & Ben expressing their opinions re the Orlando shootings is comparable to their idiotic & clueless BS about the holocaust. Why listen to uneducated & limited intelligence Jessa she's the personification of ignorance. Each time Jessa opens her mouth she makes a fool out of herself. Jessa is typical of limited education & spewing incorrect information about subjects or current events of which she knows nothing.

sandi said...

Andrea,I think Jim Bob controls all the content,or at the least,he approves of what is posted.I think he is too controlling not to.
It reminds me of the letter Michelle read to Jubilee,which I think JB wrote.It holds the same snarky,condescending tone their posts infer recently.And of course,everything the Duggars do has an agenda,which I think is controlled by JB.JMO

KitKath1024 said...

They're just gross. I'm convinced that these posts are solely PR firm directed. They hired major PR help during the molestation bombshell, and since then they've been non-stop with the postings. Before then, I'm pretty sure they updated their page rarely (I checked their page often around the time of the scandals to see if they would start updating Facebook often since they knew they'd be off the air, and, of course, they did.) I think the deal is that they send the photos to the PR firm, then the PR firm crafts a caption and posts it. They deliberately choose controversial Bible verses, etc, knowing it will give them more clicks. They probably write the gossip sites to "tip off" a controversial post as well. Also, the grammar, spelling, and cadence of the captions are not in sync with the Duggars writing, since the Duggars can barely write.

They just don't know how to live without money and attention. Hopefully this is it for them.

laura said...

Just read about how deri(lict)k is being coy about his beautiful wife's possible pregnancy. How on earth is selling the impovershed local's jewelry part of their ministry? I am unaware of what their ministry is exactly. If someone knows, please tell me. Also, what medium are they using to sell the product and how does it benefit the locals.
Seems like Derick was drinking his own kool-aid when dim bulb came along and offered a new and improved kool-aid.
At this point it is almost comical but for the innocent children being 'trained up' and dumbed down.
I guess they love their kids in some warped way, they don't know and are not capable of thinking any better. So sad.
Michelle-your hair sucks.
Derick- for Pete's sake, what the h@ll is wrong with you!?
Jana- time to let the side bang go
Jill-you look better with your hair up
Jessa-your hair can't hide your big chin or mean, bossy, self
Jinger- its 2016, why are you wearing your whackadoodle mothers 30 year-old hair
Joy anna-you could look normal on the street. Keep it that way
Jo hannah- poor thing couldn't even get her own name, but what's the biggie, half her brothers have almost the same name, and cannot say she is too old for bows
The fact the the unmarriwed girls say they want to marry some like their dad who loves god(himself) more than others shows how entirely indoctrinated to the church of Jim Bob they are.
Classic case of brainwashing.
They learned kissing from their sex-obsessed, lewd, emotionally unattached to their children, attention-seeking, selfish, power and control hungry parents who decide every single move and thought they make.
GROOOOOOOSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This is what they find joy in. They are beyong hope, even the little ones. The parents are in desperation need of a reality check, they have run wild far too long.
Why does no one speak the truth to them. Oh I forgot. When one runs a cult, one covers that base as well.
Jmho

Willow said...

I feel like it will take a Duggar offspring falling madly in love with an "outsider" before any of them will leave the cult. The cult is their family, their friends, their social structure and in many cases, their jobs. Their circle is just wide enough that they can exist as is. Having so many siblings fills a lot of voids. It will take something very drastic.

Janice K said...

re: Willow.....Yes, that would be nice if, say Jana, fell in love with a dreaded outsider.. but how would any of the Duggar children even come in contact with an outsider? Everything they do is carefully watched as the parents listen in on phone calls. Can you imagine being 25 years old and having your parents listen to conversations? I doubt even Jana has outside conversations. The young Duggar adults do not even have friends to introduce them to anyone. So, they are at the mercy of Jimbob, the "matchmaker".....and obviously that's not going so well.

Inquiring mind had to know said...

Just to clarify since this confused me..... In response to Just Unbelievable who said

If someone knows a mother & daughter who are really good friends with the Duggars, so much so that they go to their house, you would think they would know how to spell the Duggars name. Also attending one of the Duggars weddings means nothing to me. If you have up to 1,000 & or even 1,500 guest at your son or daughters wedding, you can't possibly be very close friends with all of them. I wonder how many bloggers would be inviting a least 1,00 or more of their nearest & dearest friends to their son or daughters wedding.

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I went back and read and WHAT SMILING SAID WAS: "I know the mother and daughter (who run the Duggars Blog) and they ARE good friend of the Diggers. They go to their house, weddings and have had lots of pictures with them."

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Smiling said he/she knows the mother and daughter and the mother and daughter are good friends of the Diggers (Duggars). He/She didn't say she was a friend.

So I googled this string of keywords: ellie duggars wedding (and lots of pictures popped up, and yes, she looks VERY fundy, to me.

Inquiring mind said...

In response to KitKath1024who said:

... I think the deal is that they send the photos to the PR firm, then the PR firm crafts a caption and posts it. They deliberately choose controversial Bible verses, etc, knowing it will give them more clicks. They probably write the gossip sites to "tip off" a controversial post as well. Also, the grammar, spelling, and cadence of the captions are not in sync with the Duggars writing, since the Duggars can barely write.
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Excellent observation!

lisa mcginess said...

jancie K you hit it on the nose? only way they could would be on the book tours they went on. reading their blog many young girls love the family and one girls moved to springdale to be near duggar them? did come out and say it but I think that seems to be the case? pretty sad case? hope they read this maybe that is how they make friends on those tours?

Willow said...

That's it exactly Janice K. Not much chance they will meet an "outsider", sadly.

Michelle said...

It would be interesting to see what would happen if one of the Duggar boys fell madly in love with a normal girl from the real world who would refuse to go out with him with chaperones or monitored tests and phone calls. It could happen since they do go out in public to restaurants, book signings etc... I wonder at what point would love make a Duggar boy tell JB to take a jump. The girls are hopeless. They will never stand up for themselves in order to go on a real date with a boy.

Sadly, I think Josh has ruined it for all of them. Though I personally, would not mind Jana as a daughter-in-law. She seems to be the smartest of all of the girls. Maybe it's because there were only 3 kids when she and JD came along, so Michelle actually had time to teach them something.

Janice Maher said...

to Michelle........It though Jana was smart until I heard her recent interview about what she thinks will happen to her life in the future. She seemed empty and much younger then her years. It is a shame. She seems a bit shy and maybe reluctant to marry and have personal happenings televised, like birthing a baby. I can't help but believe that that the difficult birthing experienced by Jessa & Jill would turn anyone girl off to having babies without medical help and of course, Jimbob would not allow that.

sandi said...

Are the Duggar young men allowed off the compound by themselves?
If so,then like Zach Bates did,they might be able to find a mate for themselves

Gerti said...

How can the Duggar men find a mate if they start yelling "nike" when they see an attractive woman who might be wearing jeans or a short skirt??

Heart in Florida said...

Yes, I agree when Jana was asked about how she sees her life in 5 years; the WOMAN was clueless. She has no thoughts of her own, hasn't been allowed to develop them OR have any of them. This is a woman of 26 years old who is developed to that of a 12 year old; despite the fact that she carries out household chores well. That doesn't equate to maturity or having any idea who you are at all. It's sad that the rest of the grown women in that household, like Jinger, and the same. Joy just turned 18, but I'm sure she doesn't have a thought on her own that she admits to either. She has absolutely NO interests or talents that seem to interest her that we know of. Jinger likes photography, that we know, at least, but will never be allowed to really do it. Joy, I'm not aware of anything that she has claimed to have any interest in. Jana, sadly will only pursue her music for personal interest. She seems to have the individuality or drive "beaten" out of her. Since she doesn't SEEM to be interested in marrying, she has no path at all other than take care of her mother's household...
I also have no idea why Mary Duggar is still living there washing everyone's dirty clothes. The woman IS financially well set and has no reason to be there as far as I can see. With all of those dependents on her son's back to house, clothe and feed, she is an unnecessary addition. I'm sure the Duggar family, from Mary on down, are better set,, financially, than they seem. If they weren't, they couldn't fly back and forth to Central America as they do, and keep the lifestyle that they have. His children, male OR female, will never enjoy that level of living because NONE of them are prepared to do so; they have no real education or preparation for it...all at the will of their parents. So sad that others idolize this type of thinking.

s said...

Sandi, it doesn't appear that any of the Duggar children, including the adult children are allowed off the compound alone. I seriously wonder if they do anything alone. The only place they get privacy is the bathroom, I'm afraid.

Arlene Jackson said...

Regarding Mary Duggar being a washerwoman.....most of the children are old enough to do their own wash. Each child, boys included, should keep a personal basket of their dirty clothing and wash it when necessary. This is what my children did from the age of 12 as it teaches them the responsibility of caring for themselves. Also, I think with all that land, they should be creating a huge vegetable & fruit garden. This would not only be educational, great exercise and give the kids a sense of satisfaction but also put some healthy fresh food on the dinner table. It would be a way for them to "get their energy out". The excess could be frozen for winter use. There must be room in their freezers since Michelle is not freezing her milk anymore. They could even grow their own cucumbers for the pickles!! Also, why do they not have chickens for all the eggs they could produce and also goats to make goat cheese. So many families would be thrilled to have that land to utilize, not waste it while the children sit around aimlessly seeming not to have constructive thought in their heads. You can't call that tree house a family project as it was obviously completed by professionals.

Ginger said...

Re Sandi's comment about the Duggar children not being allowed off the compound alone. Michelle has said many times that they always send them out in two's because that's the way Christ sent his apostles out. I hope Michelle's stupid comment answers your question.

Ty said...

Responding to S.- What makes you think that the Duggars get any privacy in the bathroom? LOL

Tracy Klem said...

Regarding bathroom privacy in the Duggar house.....who remembers when a TLC camera man/ worker reported that one of the boys was caught doing something by a brother....err........in the bathroom and Jimbob freaked out and tied the offending boy's hands together for a day to punish him and embarrass him in front of everyone? So, guess they have bathroom monitors spying on each other. What a way to live !!

Sharla said...

That's a rumor that may or may not have any foundation in fact.

WIllow said...

Sharla: Since activity on the Duggar front has slowed down a little, could we talk about the Bates family here (or in a separate section) ? Thanks.

Sharla said...

Bateses are always open for discussion.

Denisean said...

s- "The only place they get privacy is the bathroom, I'm afraid."...

Don't forget about the prayer closet.

Eileen said...

Responding to Arlene Jackson who said:

Regarding Mary Duggar being a washerwoman.....most of the children are old enough to do their own wash. Each child, boys included, should keep a personal basket of their dirty clothing and wash it when necessary.
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I thought they shared clothes. I could see the fight that would cause about who might want their turn but it was washed by the last user. I gag when I think about Grandma in there trying to figure out whose underwear it is this week.

julie said...

Arlene.. You are correct that land isn't being utilized. You would think they would at least, rent/lease some of their acres to a local farmer. What a waste for sure! I still cannot believe they do not at least have a good size garden. It is mind blowing actually! It just confirms how lazy they are when no adult goes to a daily job and none of the kids go to school and yet they cannot tend to some fresh vegetables in a garden? I mean seriously, they have the land, the money for equipment and seeds/plants, and definitely the time, so what is the problem?

Julie said...

responding to julie whos said...

I still cannot believe they do not at least have a good size garden. It is mind blowing actually! It just confirms how lazy they are when no adult goes to a daily job and none of the kids go to school and yet they cannot tend to some fresh vegetables in a garden? I mean seriously, they have the land, the money for equipment and seeds/plants, and definitely the time, so what is the problem?
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Just like many "entitled" people have said, "I can make more money without working."

Seriously, why should they get their lazy carcasses up? You have to have incentive.

Apparently they ignore 2 Thessalonians 3:10 about if you don't work you don't eat.

Heart in Florida said...

A garden/farm would never work for the Duggars. They travel too much for that. Those things, growing produce, tending to chickens, etc... need daily care. This family isn't focused on caring for anything for any length of time. Also, another note is: those kids have worked far too much already around Michelle's house, cooking, cleaning, child rearing, yard work, changing oil on the fleet of vehicles, etc. to have time to take care of a garden/animals. It would all fall on Jana, of course.

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