Jinger is courting. Here we go.

Grist for another season.

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Engagement announcement is out! 

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smokey said...

Crap this show is never going to end and the duggars will be mooching off everybody for the rest of their lives. Of all the girls in the world why would he pick a duggars girl. He is going to end up just liken Derrick.

Leslie said...

Just run, Jeremy...Run away as fast as you possibly can! That's all I can say about that!

Ugh...But the worst part? Another season of the crap we call "Counting On"! Funny how this whole courtship thing came along at just the right time to keep the gravy train moving, isn't it?

Jeanette said...

Another college graduate dating a Duggar girl. Maybe this couple will be able to break away. The men who marry Duggar girls seem to languish. Poor Derrick. Poor Ben. So listless. So directionless. So sad. Jinger has spunk. Maybe they can move to a city, as she's said she wants to. I don't think they've broken her spirit. Yet.

Aimee said...

Well, based on the little People.com video he is by far the most normal and well-spoken of all of the Duggar courters. He is also a graduate of a REAL university and a professional soccer player. If they marry, Jessa will HAVE to move away from the Duggars to wherever he is playing. I for one, hope he has a long career away from Arkansas and that he will finally FREE JINGER as we all have hoped!

Gen said...

At least this guy is an actual grown-up. Ben sure as heck isn't. Derrick may have graduated from university, but going on a "mission" doesn't an adult make. Jinger chose an older man who has had real life experience and a real job. Seems like he pursued ministry for a while and I'm pretty sure he'll go back to it eventually, but he's lived in the real world at least. Could that be part of Jinger's attraction to him? I sure would understand it.

Gen said...

Also, poor Jenna stuck on the back burner. Another sister-mom is going to leave the nest soon (I have a feeling this will be the shortest engagement of them all) leaving her with Joy to take care of everything. Joy is probably going to hurry up and find herself a husband. I will never believe there are no men who want to court Jenna or that she wants to court. It's not about FREE JINGER anymore, it's about FREE JENNA!!!

Marlena said...

What great news. Jinger will be breaking away, must live where her husband is playing. She is nearly FREE at last. Now she can become a real photographer.

life of their own.. said...

He is 28, so I too wonder what the heck is wrong with Jana?? This guy is handsome and manly! I feel Jana is doomed!!

Mommy in PA said...

Hopefully he will continue his soccer career (not be like Derick quitting his well paying job), and then Jinger will get to travel and see big cities like she's always wanted. It's a shame their relationship will be shown awkwardly on screen (please no JB/M mini golf humping!), but hopefully once they are married they could be traveling a lot with soccer and maybe be off screen and a little more privacy than the rest of the kids. I really hope this is Jinger's ticket to a normal life!

Anonymous said...

Who is Jenna? Did Michelle have another baby? LOL

paxtondukelilyted said...

Just did a Google search on Jeremy Vuolo. He is longer shown on the active roster for the North American Soccer League. According to Wikipedia he did leave professional soccer between 2012 and 2013 to work full time on his ministry before signing with San Antonio. He is not on their current roster. I have a feeling Jinger isn't going anywhere and this guy will soon be sucked into the Jim Bob Duggar vortex.

Yawn... said...

FYI:
"Vuolo...announced in April 2013 that he'd signed with NASL club San Antonio Scorpions. As of at least June 2016, he no longer was among the NASL roster of active players." That could be because the San Antonio Scorpions no longer exist. http://www.nasl.com/news/2015/12/22/nasl-releases-statement-on-san-antonio-scorpions

So those who are thinking Jinger will get to "escape" - don't hold your breath. Even if he latches on to another NASL club, if a NASL player is married, his wife/family often lives somewhere else (like WITH HER FAMILY) while the player is playing, since he will be gone a lot on road trips. Also, for those unfamiliar with the soccer world, the NASL is kinda like triple-A baseball. It's the minor leagues. NASL players generally need to have another "real" job to support themselves. In the NASL, players usually earn between $15,000 and $100,000, with most salaries well below $40,000. For some players, the six-month season actually serves as only a part-time job.

As for graduating from Syracuse, yeah, Derrick graduated from a real university, too. Everyone said, "Ooh, Jill is going to get out of that household and into the real world! Derrick has a real job!" And we all see how that ended.

The good part? He HAS been out in the real world on his own, even more than Derrick, and he has a real college degree in business administration. He lived and played overseas for a short time, he did play with an MSL team for a short time in NYC, and he is 28, unusually old for a Duggar courter.

The bad part? He's friends with Ben (wonder how that happened, given their nearly nine-year age difference and geographical distance), he's willing and eager to be in a courtship with a Duggar, and he doesn't appear to have a real job capable of supporting a family. So the assumption is he's either in it for the fame and money, or he's part of the IBLP cult, despite his life experiences.

julie said...

He is a nice piece of eye candy! Jinger did well!! They make a good looking couple!! If I was Jing I would of went for that too. Hot! Go Jinger!!

Smokey said...

Jinger is not free. He is a preacher boy. He gave up soccer for that. He fits perfectly into the Duggar mold.

Susie said...

Just another wannabe preacher who gets a power trip by acting like he knows more than everyone else and loves to teach others how to live. He wants a girl he will have total control over and he know the Duggar girls have been trained to obey and submit. He will never have to use birth control and he can be the king of his castle. All he had to do was watch TV, see Jinger, make friends with Jessa and Ben and then go on a mission trip to meet her, then ask Jim Bob to give him permission to court her. Seen it twice before....

We know we can look forward to an episode on the courting rules, no kissing or hand holding before marriage, we will get to see one of her little brothers chaperoning them everywhere, there will be an episode on her brothers testing him out to see if he is good enough, an episode of Jim Bob and Moochelle giving them marriage counseling, an episode where he asks her to marry him. Oh my, how I look forward to all of this rehashing......

Gen said...

Ah crap, I just realized it's another darn J name...

Auggie said...

They went on a 'missions trip' together. Sounds suspiciously Gothard-ish.

Stephanie said...

Jessa and Ben set this up? Knowing Ben he probably has a guy crush because this new guy was a professional athlete. I'm impressed that he played professional soccer even though no one cares about soccer. Retired for ministry? Doubt it because 28 in soccer years is still very young. 28 in football years is middle age. Ben is going to be falling all over himself over this one. And Jessa has always thought she had the better catch due to Bens good looks plus I always thought Ben wanted his own church and this guy already has all of that. Let's hope he does t get lost like Derick did. Derick is a goner and for those reasons we will all watch.
Let's see if a Syracuse graduate, age 28, professional athlete who has LIVED will put up with Jimbobs passive aggressive ways.
Let's ne honest will he have this guy cleaning toilets living in a warehouse? Or he put up with Jimbob calling him unattractive?

If he's in love with Jinger, marry her and take her away from this.

KerriP. said...

I feel bad but have hope for Jana. Perhaps there are good men 27+ that out there that share their lifestyle/believes. I really wonder why Jessa didn't try to set up Jana with this stud? Does anyone think she is just too shy to be around guys? Honestly, maybe she needs counseling. Something is amiss. I bet there are all kinds of gorgeous men wanting to meet her. I mean really, look at Jingers guy, how could you not want to get to know him? But I bet Jana would of turned him down flat! She is missing out on so much while she is kinda living thru her sisters, like a mom would do. Boy, she really does need counseling.

coleen said...

Happy for Jinger, but was hoping the show was off the air; esp. after the Orlando comments.

Natasha said...

Sorry, folks. This guy is just another clone of the rest. His web domain was purchased and his site launched on 5/26/2016. This is an obvious attempt to make him look better to the very "world" that they claim to shun. It's a money and power grab. Marry off another sibling and get some more cash. My question is when will they start marrying off sons?

As for his church, check out www.gcclaredo.com. The faith statement begins with Doctrinal Foundations Prepared by the Men of Grace Community Church" and appears to be located in a house (check out their location link).

Sad, sad, sad

Just Me said...

Sorry but I don't believe this is anything more than the Duggars & their PR team trying to set up a season for TLC that nobody will be able to resist watching. The Duggars always find a way to get their names in the news

life of their own.. said...

I just watched this guy preach on you tube and not only is he NICE to look at, but he looks so professional,a talented speaker (hopefully he can mentor Ben!). Which truly makes me wonder, how much is TLC/Jim Bob paying this guy? Is this just another script written for Jinger, like when they paid that guy who bought that SUV she 'flipped'?

Iris Lacey said...

For a moment I thought Jinger might be breaking loose from the clutches of Gothardism. Not so as this new man is neatly falling into place, suddenly starting some sort of ministry so he can qualify as a husband to a Duggar girl and become famous on their reality show, just like Dillard and Ben did. Soon we'll be treated to watching them side hug on a date with a little creepy Duggar making certain they follow rules, then wedding gown shopping, a review of Michelle & Jimbob's wedding.....again, the gift register, talk of having 20 babies, the wedding with 1,000 "friends" which means 1,000 gifts and a sorry, cheap reception of perhaps hot dogs and root beer floats. Boring and sad.

Janny said...

He looks too old for innocent Jinger. I notice her eyes in the pic of them, dead with no sparkle of excitement. On the other hand, he looks like he can't wait for the wedding night. Also, he's wearing braces at his age. Is this preparing him to have straight teeth for the show....sort of like what they did to Dillard but of course, not nearly as severe as Dillard's make over. Also, how did this older, educated man become friends with young, do nothing Ben?? I have a feeling this is a total set up to perk up interest since the Counting On was a snooze fest.

hello said...

This will give them material for another season of their show. They will film him asking Jboob's permission to court Jinger, the dates being chaperoned by a younger sibling, the engagement, wedding with a 1000 guests who will be served coffee at the reception and then the pregnancy announcement. Jinger will talk about how they won't do any frontal hugs or kiss before the wedding day. They will have premarital counseling with Jboob and Mullet. The older Duggar boys will grill Jeremy to make sure he is the right one for Jinger. Jboob will make sure he can control all aspects of their lives, just as he did with all the others that married into this family. Jeremy has a real education but will be dumbed down in no time if he marries into this family.

lisa magines said...

guess what this man knows what it is like to really struggle and to take care of Gods flock? something the duggars know nothing about. maybe this will open Jingers eyes. If he is a pastor of a church is Texas then she will have to move there and learn to take care of those who need help. This is real ministry work maybe the family will see what a real church does now instead of just running around doing nothing all day. They may learn something from this guy. He no longer plays soccer and his church has nothing to do with the Gothard cult.

Willow said...

Congrats to Jinger! I hope its real love. He is nice looking, but I can't get the video to work for me, so I haven't heard him speak yet. Am I correct that he is a pastor at a church in Laredo, Texas? Do we dare to hope Jinger might get to move? Jessa might freak!

Willow said...

Maybe he will hire Ben as his assistant pastor. Their "religion" apparently does not require any official Theology degrees, does it?

celestrialangie said...

For a minute I thought Jinger was getting out into the real world.
But if he is a friend of Ben's this could be a problem.

I think though Jinger is her own woman and she may surprise us all !!
And we all know Jinger has seen what not to do.
With examples of Jill and Jessa; And the what happen to her sister-in-law Anna.
I think Jinger knows what she wants to do with her life!

BLB said...

When will they start marrying off the sons? Except for the second oldest one, none have any means of supporting a wife or family and I don't think Jim blob wants to support any more people since their income is not what it used to be. How many adults children still live at home and supported by mommy and daddy? All except Jill and Jessa. Bizarre!

Willow said...

Thanks for putting up with me today friends, but I wanted to add one more thing. The articles indicate that Ben and Jessa met Jeremy in San Antonio. Speculation: Could Jeremy have anything to do with Vision Forum, as that is where Doug Phillips and Vision Forum used to be? Another reason that makes me wonder is, I THINK, is that Ben's parents were ex-Vision Forum followers, at least of some sort. Does anyone else know any more about this? Could just be coincidence, but makes me wonder. This is just speculation on my part. Trying to put all the new news together.

s said...

BLB, Jessa and Bin are still supported by Jim Blob. There are many adult sons living at home with no means to support themselves.

Lydia said...

Aimee, just to clarify, Oklahoma State Univ the school from which Detick Dillard graduated is a real & accredited college, one of my cousins is a graduate of OSU.

got2bdrc said...

Though she seems to be underutilizing her talents and time, if I were Jana, I'd be hesitant to get into courtship, too. She already knows what it is to subjugate her desires for family. As an unattached woman, she gets about all the freedom women in her cult get. Perhaps she has some kind of escape plan in the works? Maybe she could call the "Escaping Polygamy" girls and have Shanell, Jessica, and Andrea help her run? Talk about crossover programming--I'd watch that on pay-per-view!

Jamison said...

A man forced to Court at age 28 is stupid, pathetic & just really Wrong!

Yam Erez said...

Also, anyone else think this by-now famous photo https://www.google.co.il/search?q=duggar+photo+during+jim+bob%27s+campaign&biw=1164&bih=814&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjM9Puj4bnNAhWCrRoKHTh0A_MQsAQIGQ#imgrc=I2TvNH-63gVs7M%3A

is infantilizing? Or something cringe-worthy, no? Michelle looks like a little girl...

Cedric said...

I find it extremely incredible that an educated man such as Jeremy would listen too & follow the direction of ignorant & uneducated Jim Bob. However college educated Derick Dillard dumbed down when he married Ms."like fest" Jill. Hopefully, Jeremy is stronger in character & will ignore the stupid rantings & comments continually spoken by moronic Jim Bob.

Denisean said...

No way has this guy never hugged, kissed, held hands, etc. with a girl. I guess that rule only has to apply to the girls.

Nightmomma said...

You knows we all said the same thing about Jill...oh Derick has a "real" degree, he's been out in the world, he has hopes and dreAms...and now look. I give this about 5 months and Jim Bob will take over just like he did with the other two. He is cute, but so was Derick.

Ava said...

RE: Yam Erez and that hideous picture.Why does Jim Bob, a grown man, want his wife to dress like a little girl? He wanted her to wear those stupid baby puff sleeves for her 2nd wedding. Something isn't right.

Ava said...

Noooooo.....if there is another wedding that ol' Sloppy Jo will have her nose on tv coming up with more of her tasteless hick ideas.. Spare us.

It is like Jim Slob has been trying to foist Jinger out there with the car lot and now this. Why? Because he wants the $$$$$. Jana probably would not agree and Jinger wants a way out.

Maybe JimBlob had Ben be the go between so they can say Ben and Jessa introduced them, instead of the truth that Daddy vetted him before they were introduced.

I hope this guy knows what he is in for with that family.

Andrea said...

Have to agree with other people's comments; my initial euphoria for Ginger is giving way to the sad realization that her life isn't going to turn out very different from the others. It will be a quicky wedding, followed by pregnancy and childbirth. She's likely be married to another do nothing, layabout a la Ben and Derrick. It's sad. Obviously, I wish for her happiness, career success and a happy partnership in marriage, but it feels like her parents and upbringing prevent that from ever happening.

Also, agree with the comments that Ginger's engagement is all about keeping the money training rolling. I'm certain, Jim Bob has already been on the telephone to Nancy Daniels to secure another season of "Counting on." Filming likely starts tomorrow!

annamarie said...

Jeremy looks like a hot young man who has done much more then side hugs with women. Does the purity thing not apply to the prospective husbands? I see a very quick marriage here. Jinger looks like such a little girl next to him. I find this pairing up not good for such a sheltered girl. As far as the unmarried boys go......how many are of marriageable age now....(that must be at 16 years old in Duggar world). If about 5 of them got married, started having kids...where would they live and how would they support all the children God will give them. In 10 years there could be about 35 new Duggar babies with unemployed parents running all over the Duggar compound to get their "energy out". What a circus scene that brings to mind, jumping on the kitchen counters, eating tater casserole with their hands off of paper plates, not attending school and all dangerously birthed at home because there must be no medical insurance. Does Jimbob not think beyond today and what his total control and isolating has done to his now adult children??

Yawn... said...

Annemarie, he's probably a "born-again" virgin, like Jeremy Roloff and his wife. By his own admission, he was on a "bad path" in college, so I'm assuming at a minimum we are talking alcohol, and a little more than side-hugs with the ladies, and most likely a LOT more than that. But with Josh as the example, there doesn't appear to be much the Duggars won't overlook if it means the checks keep rolling in. I refuse to watch their show, whether or not it "counts" for ratings. Bad enough to see them on the cover of People every five minutes, but at least I only see those at the doctor's office. LOL...

Wampascat said...

So, I read he gave in to lust starting his junior year in high school. Ha! What does that mean for the couple having a "higher standard" and saving their first kiss for marriage???

Just Unbelievable said...

Someone questioned whether or not they need a real degree in Theology. I remember when the Bates family was first a part of the Duggars show & Gill Bates at one time had been a salesman & then started his tree service. Then one day when he was in a church by himself, the Lord spoke to him & told him he should be a preacher/minister. He has officiated at some of their kids weddings but I think anyone can get a certificate to perform marriages. So I guess that's one way into the ministry field. Of course, if your hearing aide isn't working, you know, you might need new batteries or something like that, you might just miss out on your real calling from the Lord.
Radar-on-line is reporting that the Duggar family will be returning with an entire season of episodes, just like before the big scandal, which they assume everyone has forgotten by now. I feel another migraine headache coming on, so I'll close now while me & my husband,(enter sarcasm)find the Excedrin!

Heart in Florida said...

I find it very interesting reading about Jeremy's past "sins" in seeking fame and attention. He states how he overcame these "demons" and turned to extreme Christianity to conquer it. It, now, seems with him taking up with Jinger Duggar, that he's flirting with his very own demons...why pick on a young woman who BRINGS SOME NOTARIETY, FAME and ATTENTION to him in doing so? I would think he would steer clear of any publicity. This is a contradiction IMO, so he will fit right in with the Duggars who are a myriad of contradiction.

I, also would love to hear or read a statement from any of the Duggars which did NOT include the words, "heart, invest, character, etc".. I doubt that they could speak a sentence without any of these learned vocabulary words that are drilled in to them..they'd be silent..

I think Jeremy is giving American citizens of Italian ancestry, like myself, a bad name. His Catholic relatives, if there are any, must be shaking their heads and praying a rosary for him. I don't think Jinger really knows, like the rest of them, what she is really getting in to. A man of 28 interested in a 22 year old woman with the maturity and life experience of a 14 year old? Not a good combo IMO.

Heart in Florida said...

When you keep a pet locked up and chained up to the tree on a short leash, it's bad news when they find themselves unleashed to the tree...like this guy, who was home schooled, etc. then finds himself in a real university....they go overboard with their ability to "choose" their activities...like Josh, he was kept on a short leash and managed to "sin" within those confines...so there, their method of sheltering, isolating and indoctrinating doesn't work either. No critical thinking life skills are taught or practiced in small ways when you are a younger child...
If Michelle and Jim Bob believed as they do about the authority in their father of the house, why then didn't Michelle listen to HER father when Jim Bob asked to marry her and he disagreed? She had her mother hound him and she twisted her parents' arms to get permission to marry him...this would never have been done or possible in their household, yet, another contradiction of their "rules" benefitting only Jim Bob and Michelle...

CatMom said...

I hope and wish for the best for Jinger, but I am not really sure it's going to go very well. She didn't really look happy in the pictures or video. Her mouth smiles but her eyes don't, and her voice was devoid of love or excitement. She's going to go from barely touching, to sex (with someone experienced), to baby in a short time. I feel sorry for her. On another note, I was on another board, and a poster called Jim Bob "Kim Jong Boob." I laughed so hard, I cried, but it's really not far from the truth. He sets his children and their spouses up with houses nearby so he can watch them.

Chloe said...

As a former soccer athlete, I am sure Jeremy ate nutricious foods. Too bad that all ends for him. As continuous tater tot casserole is in his future with Warden Loser Jim Bob

Wednesday said...

I don't believe for a second that this is a real start to a relationship. Once again a pre approved husband has been selected, which means that he is in the Gothard life style 110%. Going to college means nothing and does not mean he is main stream; there are many types churned out in college. Conservatives can come out of mainstream universities and liberals can come out of Christian schools. This guy is a minister who wants to convert Catholics, has been drawn to the Duggar family, is approved to marry a daughter, and who is NOT there to save a daughter. The same old story is going to unfold, court, wed, baby, and film it all!

Jak&Jil said...

I'm waiting for one of Jeremy's ex-girlfriends to give a "tell all" to one of the rag mags.

Smokey said...

how many of you think these courtships are done mostly to keep the gravy train going. It is awfully convenient how they usually tie in to the new seasons starting up. I wonder if these girls actually want to start courting or the producers suggest it to them. I hope they know that once they marry they are pretty much stuck.

Smokey said...

I also refuse to watch this show after watching the duggars since the show started. I am not going to put any money into Jim Bob and Michelle's coffer. It is so phoney. I do like some of the kids though except Jessa and Jill and Josh

Elizabeth C said...

When I first heard the news about Jinger & a soccer player, I was happy for her. Then comes the fact he is no longer a soccer player, is talking of his past sins and has recently started his own ministry. He sounds like he is already under Jimbob's control. I feel sorry for Jinger. Her life will continue to be controlled Jimbob by this more experienced older man. There will be no career in photography, just selfies of her baby bumps. This new courting adventure in the Duggar family has brought them a new TLC season. I feel Jimbob has been working overtime to find a man for Jinger and set up his supposed friendship with boy Ben so it would seem as though Ben introduced him to Jinger. There is no worldly, older man who would be interested in being friends with a sheltered boy 8 years his junior. This guy is looking for fame and fortune the easy way. He has no job except his "ministry" that is out of a house, as been reported. I feel this new story line has been in the works for a while. Notice he has new braces on his 28 year old teeth....a Duggar demand? for the tv show.

Ava said...

I bet Old Jom Bob is sitting aroundeith that stupid circus monkey grin. Shudder!

Marites H. said...

I hope she gets the photo studio and a house in a big city (that is, away from Duggarville) like she's been dreaming of. Still, I don't see how an emotionally & socially-stunted 22 year old can be on even ground with a 28 year old man who seems to have quite a bit of life experience. And how or why is he friends with Ben. I don't think they'd have much in common either.

nina fitspatrick said...

It is disappointing to see on the internet that one of Jeremy's ministry goals is to save the Catholics. Guess he fits right in with the Duggars.

Cat said...

I remember in the special when they moved in to the tinker toy house, Jb said they got this large property so if the kids wanted to build homes and be together, there would be room for all of them. I dont believe for one minute this relationship is real,all for the mighty $$

Ava said...

Has anyone checked assessor's records to see if her intended owns a house or if he lives with his parents?

Leela said...

Jeremy is too worldly for this innocent one. It is very creepy & cruel of Jimbob to set him up with his sheltered daughter who has the experience of a 12 year old. We know Jimbob is behind this match to give TLC a story line to pursue. Poor Jinger, from side hugs to....much will be quckly expected of her. Maybe one of his old girlfriends will come forward and make some money on a tell all. I've already read on the internet that he has
spent a night in jail but didn't say why.

s said...

Jinger's photography is a hobby, that's it and she isn't even that good. There are lots of people who like to take pictures. Why is there all this talk of it being her career?

Really Fed Up said...

Doesn't even one of those Duggar kids have any sort of backbone? Neither one of my children ever gave us any problems or real concerns, however they each had their own ideas of what they wanted to do in life & have made good choices, have good careers. There's something terribly wrong in the Duggar home when young adults are basically held captive in their home until their father decides what they will do with their lives. All anyone can do at this point in time is hope that the new season on TLC will be a dismal disappointment. I remember practically begging people not to watch the ridiculous, Jill & Jessa counting on shows & look how they turned out. I don't believe in outside agencies getting involved in how families raise their children but in my opinion this is a form of abuse similar to the Warren Jeffs cult. For Gods sake cant the authorities in AR do anything to help these kids, even if it's just testing heir homeschooling progress. Jinger needs to remain as white as the driven snow but the new hubby can come with all his baggage & sins, the same as Josh did with Anna who remained pure for Josh.
The parents in this home are just crazy & at least 19 kids plus spouses & their kids will suffer terriby unless this cult comes to an end.

Mary said...

Once again the Duggars are trying to spin the idea of Jinger courting a "Professional Soccer Player". Ok he hasn't played in 3 years and has stated he works as a minister so it can't be said that he is a soccer player. They want to try to sound normal since they couldn't pin titles on Ben or Derrick unless they had said "a wannabe Christian rapper" and "a future hippie scruffy looking missionary"

Anonymous said...

I have met Jeremy and his family on a couple of occasions and the Vuolo family stayed at my parents house on one occasion when Jeremy's dad was preaching at our church.
Although, both Jeremy and I were teens at the time, I did not recall either him or the family being anything but normal, listening to secular music, watching tv, playing sports etc. Unless there has been a major change in their beliefs his family wan not at all involved with Gothardism.
Jeremy, I believe is reformed baptist which is very much different than the duggar upbringing. Frankly I was a little surprised to see the news that they were courting. I am hopeful that this is a sign that at least some of the Duggars are moving away from Gothardism.
Chris F

EJW said...

JB decides who his daughters court. It's quite obvious that this guy is way out of Jinger's league. Jinger's an attractive girl. JB will do ANYTHING to keep the money train rolling, ANYTHING!!

Mike J. said...

Re: Anonymous. It was about many years ago when you were a teen friend of Jeremy. He's 28 now and has reportedly done some living in the past 12 years, by his own admission. He said he wants to "save Catholics", like Ben & Dillard. It's not very nice that these men/boys have no respect for other religions and shoot their mouths off as to how others should live when one is sitting on the sofa and the other unwashed and crazy eyed doing who know what in Central America. Last week I saw on the internet that Jill is advertising jewelry made by the local women. Wonder if the wonderful Dillards get a commission on sales, taking advantage of the villagers for their own gain? They seem to do nothing unless it puts money in their phony missionary fund.

Chela said...

We now have two daughters in arranged marriages. Do you think they have talked to the other girls at all about what to expect, and how things are truly going? I don't think Jill and Jessa are happy at all, and I just wonder if there has been any 'heads up' to the remaining older girls.

Ava said...

Jeremy's parents, Chuck and Diana Vuolo- Mom wears pants, plays violin and is educated, does volunteer work. (Derick's mom wears pants, is educated and works.)

Here is a video of him https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2&v=TSh1YUgEgio

There are several more videos of him: https://www.google.com/#q=Jeremy+Vuolo+yutube

Ava said...

http://www.inquisitr.com/3219368/jinger-duggars-boyfriend-jeremy-vuolo-spent-night-in-jail-drank-and-partied-in-college/

He partied a little too hard when he was younger. Jeremy Vuolo is currently the pastor of Grace Community Church in Laredo, Texas, and he appears in numerous videos on the church’s YouTube page

Just Unbelievable said...

Re: Chela's comment about a "heads up". I think we can assume there has been no"heads up" if Jinger is going along with someone hand picked by a family member. They can talk about him being a friend of Ben's but we all know the girls have always said it would be Daddy Dugger who will find them a mate & so far that's how it's been. Watch for Joy to be the next Duggar to be courting, depending on how the TV/Ministry is going. Follow the money trail!

Aleta J. said...

Jinger might be dreading having to give birth after witnessing Jessa's painful, bloody home birth . Hope this man allows her to go to a hospital but since he is not really employed, perhaps he will go cheap and force her to suffer at home. Jinger does not have that starry eyed look of happy anticipation of marriage, like Jill and Jessa did.

Just Me said...

Re comment by s. They refer to a number of their kids as professionals. Remember Jana, who never leaves the house is a concert pianist. By the way what happened to highly skilled midwife, Jill? We haven't heard about her delivering even one baby in CA. Apparently learning Spanish is her main occupation. The Duggars have always done their missionary work, you know giving out candy & soccer balls at Christmas, in Spanish speaking countries. Now none of them know any Spanish. They should at the very least know "Conversational Spanish," from these various trips in the past not to mention they own every new technical device known to man. They should have some knowledge of Spanish.

Ellen Krips said...

The entire family could learn conversational Spanish together. They could hire a tutor to teach the entire clan. Very young children pick up a 2nd language quickly. What an interesting adventure for the Duggars.......but like this takes effort and it's like so much easier to like not to learn.

Wendy Heusel said...

if you notice they have been courting for about one year because that missionary trip was 2015 sometime around march? so it has been while since they started. you will be hearing wedding bells soon because it brings ratings. feel sorry for jinger but maybe if he lives in texas she will be moving there with her new husband good distance away from daddy digger. maybe the diggers will be going to a real church also.

flowerchild said...

Hope Jinger and her husband move to tx. He pastors a normal church, and perhaps they can life normal Christian lives away from Tv.

Vanessa West said...

I hate to put a damper on all this, but I read somewhere that he has already quit playing soccer and has decided to become a minister.

Quiana said...

Looks like the Duggars have fodder for a new season lol. Same stuff right? I'm sad for Jinger, she was a fav of mine.
Slowly I can see the Duggars start to lift their hold on the strict courting, Josie might have a chance LOL!
These quick marriages which lead quick sex for the purpose of having tons of babies is so heartbreaking. Stories of women in these cults ending up insad situations have been in the news. Don't wish any of that on these girls. Thoughts?
Down the road, I'm sure though that one or more of these kids will break away and I'm waiting for that tell all! I'm surprised that more people haven't come forth with more info on the guys dating into the Duggar family. Where are the exes? Hmmmm...
I remember back on one of those Q&A shows Michelle was asked what they would do if they had a gay child. With the number of people in that family there's bound to be more than one, she said if I recall correctly that "they would support them fully" which I highly doubt! Maybe that's why some of the older ones are shying away for getting married? Conflicted feelings? Thoughts?

Always said...

At one time there was a brother & sister that stayed with the Duggar family for long periods of time, while they were attending school. They were Spanish speaking!! Why didn't the kids start picking up Spanish then ?

Ava said...

Why does everyone keep saying she is dating a professional soccer playerinstead of saying that amongst Duggar is dating s minister

I see she had struck that same pose as Jill and Jessa did while engaged.

Ava said...

Jinger has that fake Duggar smile but her eyes stem 't saying it. I suppose dim Bulb surprised her with this. Like that idiot surprising the girls,yes, just the girls, that they, not him would bs giving blood.

He seems to hate women as he Is so cruel to them. Humiliating them any way that sick man can .... Michelle at Mini Golf, Josie's
poop accident, Anna on the toilet giving
birth. Shame on you Jim Bob Duggar! And treating your dying father the way you did. Your actions toward people are vile and repulsive!

cindy said...

regarding the above comment on strict courting. I do not see any restrictions being lifted on the rules. Looks like Jinger has lost her spirit and is being pushed on this man before she
did something stupid, like breaking away and becoming an independent person. I always thought
she had independent ideas due to her saying she wanted to live in a city and learn photography. His car flipping idea for her flopped.
Jimbob must have worked hard to find her a strong man to marry to keep her in line.

Leslie said...

Re: Always' comment

I believe you're talking about the Hortonos (Or however it's spelled...). And, as I recall, they were Asian. Something makes me think they were from Indonesia, but I could be wrong about that. But I don't believe they were Spanish-speaking. But I do remember at around that same time, a Hispanic family came and visited them for a short time--A few days to a week, probably. Something do to with church of course. And I remember the mother singing a hymn in Spanish while one of the older girls played piano, and it was actually beautiful! And let's not forget those Spanish classes they pretended to take from Marjorie's mother! They've had plenty of opportunities to try to learn the language, but of course, they couldn't be bothered!

umjustsaying... said...

I hope JB has him tested for STD's, after all he was a party animal. Who knows how many women he has been with. That would be sad for a pure, innocent Duggar girl to have to go thru that!

hello said...

Any spark Jinger had will go away as soon as she is married. She will th3n be expected to cater to her husband's every whim and start popping out babies as soon as possible. It kust be terrifying for the girls to be alone with their husbands for the first time on their wedding nights, especially when Mullet's advice to them is to make themselves available at all times, no matter what.
Since Jimboob most likely won't pick out a husband for Jana until she is done raising her siblings, will the courting rules still apply even though she could be around 40? Will Jimboob and Mullet monitor all converstions and insist on a chaperone? By the time ahe is ready to court, her nieces and nephews could act as chaperones.

Kristine said...

I agree that it is just too much to expect of these girls to have immediate sex on their wedding nights after not even kissing or front hugging, especially Jinger who will be marrying this experienced stud type guy. How sad Jimbob and Michelle cannot trust them even during the engagement to enjoy affection to get to know each other and feel more comfortable with the much talked about wedding night. It's so invasive & sick of Michelle and Jimbob to snoop on them, even their phone calls. What can happen in a phone call or text???

Chloe said...

I am Catholic. I love my faith. Please Duggars leave we Catholics alone & go bother or force your pathetic Cult to people who hold your Cult in high esteem those people who live in ignorance.

julie said...

There is a pic of Jeremy's inner arm on pickles and it is speculated it is a tattoo. I pushed view full size and it looks more like road rash or some disgusting scar. Anyone else see this or able to enhance the pic to see for sure? If it is a scar, it is a long, nasty one! Looks like someone dug/cut his arm up. Wonder how he got it?

hello said...

It is all about control. Jill and Derick had to have a chaperone when they visited Derick's mom in the hospital. They also had one younger siblings in the room in the church on their wedding day when they called Derick's mom. Jimboob is so obsessed with sex that he probably thought they would go at it in a hospital and a church.

Just Unbelievable said...

Re: Julie's comment about Jeremy's arm. I would imaging he got the scar playing soccer at one time. The other sons-in-law were not into sports, that we know of, unless you want to count Derrick's stint as the College Mascot. The Duggars boys don't appear to have any injuries, due to the fact that they have never been involved in sports. Well of course quite some time ago the kids played "broom ball" at a local rec center, until they started charging a fee to use the place. Jim Bob got them right out of there when there was a charge to use the facility, even though they did seem to really enjoyed the game. Guess he's still looking for another free way for the kids to run off all that energy.

Aways said...

Re: Leslie's comment. Yes you are correct about the Hortonos. They were Asian, but I remember when they went on those trips to CA, with the Duggars they did have a working knowledge of Spanish. They both wanted to be fluent in more languages, than their own & English.I could never understand how they came to be so close to the Duggars.

roddma said...

Just because someone isn't dating the opposite gender or not crazy over marriage to the opposite gender doesn't mean they are gay.I also don't like to speculate on the sexuality of the remaining Duggar kids and adults at home. I highly doubt Jim Bob and Michelle would be supportive, and it could be trouble if they thought any of the remaining kids or adults at home were gay. We have been forbidden to talk about it on one forum. And frankly, is it our business?
I think Jana and John David just don't like the spotlight.They don't want something so personal played out on TV.
It isn't unusual for a Fundamentalist to wear pants or listen to some secular music. I've seen the females of Quiverfull families in pants. Not all Quiverfull/Fundamentalists belong to ATI.

laura said...

Soooo Jim Bob has 'invested' such time and care into isolating his children and molding them into the veggie tales form of Children of the Corn(y) on his compound out in the middle of nowhere he's just gonna hand over Jinger to THIS guy? What's the deal?

Why all aspiring ministers or preachers, it will be interesting to see joy Anna's turn.

Seems like their smiles don't reach their eyes, Jim Bob, josh,others. The eyes just seem dull and zoned out.
I don't like seeing Jim Bob smile it weirds me out.

Why the extreme reaction of erasing individual desires and dreams and reprogramming of all those chi!dren, the camps. The lengths they go to clean slate the curiosity, individuality, ideas, wow.
Just wondering how long these arranged marriages will last in this day and age. Their time is all arranged, microscoped, monitored, fast. Maybe they talk about important goals and plans but it sounds like a strange environment to determine if one is compatible a lifelong commitment.
Hopefully Jinger can attain the proper circumstances for her On!y remember short clip of grandpa being treated like an animal. But everything I've read sounds awful and heartless.

Lizzyb said...

No matter what we all think about the Duggars, please go on Jeremy Vuolo's website and read about him rather than posting rumors and inuindos. He says he is no longer playing professional soccer and is an ordained pastor of Grace Community Church in Loredo, Texas. He has portions of his sermons to listen to and he is articulate and well spoken. The church's website shows that is small and appears to a start up. The church also has a Facebook page and Jeremy is the photos.

Also, just because Jeremy is of Italian descent does not necessarily mean he was raised Catholic. I've seen this mentioned in several posts. I really don't know why he wants to get mixed up with the Duggars but Jinger has always been my favorite. If it works out, I wish them the best.

Lisa Mcginnis said...

it is such a shame none of these kids will ever stand up for themselves if they did they would not be in this postion. that is another reason they will not let them go out alone. why would this guy want a courtship like this I know I would not be going for that one. I would not let my son go for that one either. again were is this guys parents why does he not speak up for himself and go by his rulers and not duggar rulelrs.

Ridiculous said...

Re:Lizzyb's comment. I'm afraid we will never know if this match with Jinger & Jeremy works out. If Jim Bob has to make a settlement to keep it undercover he will. Jinger has always said she wants to live in a big city. In my opinion this small start up church in Loredo in Texas doesn't fit her dreams.

Ridiculous said...

Re:Lizzyb's comment. I'm afraid we will never know if this match with Jinger & Jeremy works out. If Jim Bob has to make a settlement to keep it undercover he will. Jinger has always said she wants to live in a big city. In my opinion this small start up church in Loredo in Texas doesn't fit her dreams.

Wendy Heusel said...

http://www.athletespeakers.com/speaker/jeremy-vuolo/

guess jinger boyfriend got himself an agent and selling himself already. wonder if Jim bo helped him get set up so he can take care of daughter when they marry? twice the money now?

Cedric said...

So Jeremy Vuolo is articulate & well spoken. Hmmm will be interesting for Jeremy marrying into a family that is Verbally challenged who's favorite word or behavior is a "LIKE FEST". I bet the word "like" is not routinely spoken by Jeremy. Jeremy must learn to DUMB DOWN because its one of the rules implemented by Dim Bulb once a guy marries a Duggar Daughter.

Taylor said...

It is being reported that this mess is coming back for a full season. So did the advertisers just come running back waving fists full of money since there will be another tacky wedding that fundies will be watching?

Heart in Florida said...

For someone like Jeremy, who has said that one of his demons was fame and attention seeking, why is he going for a woman who will bring him some of just that? I think he's flirting with one of his "demons" that he said he conquered....not a good idea, IMO. I don't think they are very compatible. Don't think Jinger will be happy...she sure doesn't look it...skeptical all the way if body language and facial expressions say anything..those two don't look very happy. I hope Jinger was told that she has a choice in this matter.

Barbara M said...

I am assuming the sponsors are all back for the upcoming Duggar season, all is forgiven & forgotten and Josh & Anna will be expecting a new baby for the world to observe being born. I feel Jimbob is selling Jinger to keep the money rolling in and this Jeremy man, failed soccer player with small church, is looking for fame and fortune. Perhaps Jeremy has his mind set on a television church....like the Jim & Tammy Baker show.

elinor said...

Maybe Jana is smart, refusing an arranged marriage and all that it entails. She is staying safe in her only known environment caring for the younger ones with no cares.

Vivian M. said...

It looks like Jinger is being set up for marriage like the "next available" customer service rep you talk to on the phone when your call is so important to them. Jana doesn't count in the lineup of potential brides since somebody needs to take care of JB & Michelle's kids. A set up with Joy would shock too many people because of her age. Unfortunately, Joy is probably not too far behind Jinger in the cycle of quick courtship, quick wedding & quick conception. JB is building his kingdom, populating the world with as many little Duggars as possible. Seems like his daughters' babies are also considered Duggars.

Just my opinion said...

Re:Heart in Florida's comment that she hopes Jinger had a choice in this arrangement. Since we all know how "Verbally Challenged," the Duggar family is I don't believe the word "choice" is in their limited vocabulary.
In this day & age it's enough to make you sick to your stomach when you hear these girls talk about how if they like someone they need to talk to Daddy Duggar & he will either approve or disapprove whether or not the man they will spend the rest of their lives with is acceptable to him. It doesn't matter at all if it's their choice for a husband it's Daddy Duggar's choice.

Hello said...

Jimboob is in control of every aspect of his kid's lives. Mullet agrees with everything he says and does since she is a woman and is not allowed to have any opinions of her own. It's sad that the kids must as Jimboob says at all times.
Since Jinger will be announcing her engagent soon since she is courting, I can't wait to see her wedding registey. She will probably be asking for eyeliner, mascara, self tanner, and Starbucks gift cards.

KarenG. said...

I see a yogurt shop in Texas is in a bit of PR trouble after bragging that Michelle, Jimbob, Jinger & Jeremy visited during filming in the area for their new show. Now customers are boycotting the shop!!! What does that tell TLC??

Willow said...

I think the Duggar children are too sheltered to know that people could try to get close to them because they want to share in the fame and money, etc. If daddy Duggar is screening all the potential mates (male and female), they don't get that experience to learn that folks may have ulterior motives. Those of us out in the real world can see it so easily; they are in a "daddy-bubble" and have no idea. Jim Bob COULD be running everything for the good of all and tells them not to worry about it, he will take care of everything. Just my opinion, a little wondering about this subject. I really feel Ben and Jeremy COULD be in it for the fame. I haven't decided for sure about Derick yet.

Goldie said...

Over 50% of women in the U.S. are single. The average age for first marriages for women has risen to 28. I do not suggest that Jana or anyone be pressured into marriage in this day and age. Being single is finally becoming an acceptable choice for women.

TLC would have a better "show" by putting on Jana, John and the other singles and show them making their way in the world. Finding themselves. Stop pushing them into arranged marriages by rewarding them with money.

Patty Nelson said...

If Michelle, Jimbob & Jinger where in Larado Texas filming their upcoming new show (yogurt shop article) with Jeremy, they could be there promoting Jeremy's little church with hopes of creating a television evangelical show to get those donations rolling in. Jinger does wear enough eye makeup to qualify as a tv evangelist's wife. I've seen many of them sitting next to their preaching husbands, tears of mascara running down their cheeks as they begg for donations. We shall seen soon enough.

Just Wondering said...

Re:elinor's comment about Jana staying safe in the only environment she knows, caring for the younger ones with no cares. I would change that statement to Jana remains caring for the younger ones that nobody else cares for or about. It all over social media that Jim Bob & Michele are now off to Texas to reel in the next son-in-law. Must be really nice having all those kids & still being able to take off at the drop of a hat & travel anywhere you want, whether it's CA or all over the United States.

Hello said...

Maybe Jimboob and Mullet were in the yogurt shop filming with Jinger and Jeremy giving them some premarital counseling which would consist of Jboob asking them questions which are none of his business. Mullet will tell Jinger to keep sweet and obey her new authority figure. I hope they are not planning on filming the courtship, engagement and wedding. There will be 1000+ guests and they will be served coffee in the parking lot at the reception.

Just Unbelievable said...

Re:Hello's comment hoping they will not be filming the entire courtship as well as Jim Bob & Michelle giving them premarital counseling & a wedding with over 1,000 people or more, that they don't know & perhaps never even met. There is absolutely no question in my mind about whether or not they will be filming this mess. Of course, they will! It certainly appears the filming has already begun & just exactly how long have we known about this courting between Jinger & Jeremy?
Again people, follow the money, it's headed right for Jim Bob's bank account!!

KT said...

Don't they usually get an Instagram account and a Fakebook page when they get to courting? And then the Duggar girl starts referring to him as her "best friend", even though she had never had one private word with him.

sandi said...

The yogurt shop put put a statement that they do not support the Duggar's views

Hello said...

I have no doubt Jboob will stop at nothing to keep his family relevent and the money rolling in. Jinger could already be engaged by now and they could have already filmed the courtship and proposal. They could have also already filmed Jinger saying there will be no frontal hugs during courting and that she is saving her first kiss for the wedding day. Jeremy has most likely been intimate with women.

Hello said...

Don't they usually have their first name with the last name of their future husband's last name as their instagram name? That is something a young teenager would do when she has a crush on a boy. Just goes to show that the older Duggar girls have the mind of a teenager in a woman's body.

Catherine Sinkel said...

http://stufftocommenton.blogspot.com/

I think this article really hits the nail on the head re: JB & Michelle's true misdeeds in amassing millions of dollars while deceiving the public. Up until this point, they still have yet to acknowledge any culpability in Josh's behavior yet they've sold a parenting story that would lead someone to believe that if you follow them, you'll end up with a son who falls just under the Messiah.

When they said "we aren't perfect and we don't have perfect children," I didn't take that to mean "we raised someone who inappropriately touched his sisters and now we have a grown son who is a rampant adulterer." ... might've been nice to get a head's up in case someone read any of their material and thought about joining the movement...

Lillian said...

Hello, I loved your last sentence re coffee served in the parking lot. It hit my funny never & just now I stopped laughing. Thanks.

Chloe said...

Patty Nelson, OMG I am laughing uncontrollably.

KT said...

People were boycotting the yogurt shop because the Duggars went in to spend some of the easily gotten gain and someone their made a bad choice to put the Duggar mugs on their Facebook page.

I hope that it doesn't permanently hurt their business.

Lilly said...

Each Duggar girl is the epitome of "LIKE" in spoken in every sentence. It's uneducated & irritating behavior. Both Jill & Jessa behave as 12 year olds.

sandi said...

They will need to be served coffee in the parking lot,as Sierra, the wonderful wedding planner,will have forgotten the heaters again

Ruby said...

If the yogurt shop doesn't support the Duggar's view, why in the world were they so happy to slap a picture of the Duggars up on their facebook page announcing to the world that the Duggars had visited their establishment? Can't have it both ways.

Sharla said...

Reminder time. We do not discuss the Duggar fan blog.

Evana L said...

What companies are sponsoring the new Dugger show? I guess in one year, all is just fine in Duggarville, Jimbob has his tv show back and money is rolling in again. It makes me sick to know the Duggars hold themselves higher then others and seem to get away with sweeping their scandals under the rug.

Just thinkin' said...

I don'the think it would be coffee.
I think everyone would drink the Kool aid or the smarter ones would drink melted root beer floats!

mickey said...

Personally, Jinger is just being handed off to a guy, whose preacher Daddy, wants him to settle down, and arranged this marriage with JB. JB put out feelers for any "suitable" guy for courtship, and this one is it. He does not look like a prize to me, and I won't say what I really think here...and janarella continues her chores of raising the brood.

KimmieH said...

A guy courting at age 28 is just ludicrous, stupid & WRONG! The fact that Jeremy accepts courting vs dating leads me to question the real reason he's with a Duggar girl?

Carol said...

Just around the corner........the Jeremy & Jinger Evangelist TV Show with guest star Jimbob Duggar.

Quiana said...

You made me laugh hard Sandi!!
I'm surprised they can drink coffee lol!
Also KimmieH you're right it's really odd that he's ok with "courting". He's getting something out of this. I guess a woman who keeps sweet is worth courting and wedding with only kooaid to drink.

sandi said...

The fact Jeremy is going to be a minister may be the reason he is accepting courting as normal,for his age.My pastor did the same thing,as it took away anyone's ability to claim he'd done anything inappropriate before marriage.This is just a thought

Chela said...

I can see courting like sandi mentioned, but "Duggar style courting" is a whole other thing! No private conversations, ever!!

Meme said...

I dunno..... I don't see this guy (Jeremy) going backwards. Who goes from "dastardly dating" to the prim ritual of courting? Something smells. Either this guy is feeling badly about himself and is trying to start over and do it right - or he is hypnotized by the Duggar funds, just as Derick and Ben were hypnotized. Or is there another possibility? Can't decide.

Evelyn K. said...

There are no private conversations in courting?? What is wrong with private discussions? How can the courting couple be so untrustworthy as to not be allowed to speak in private? How can they expect to marry someone they have never spoken to alone with the ever present Jimbob's grinning face lurking over them? So creepy, these rules. And think about it...the girls are not really totally "sweet" thanks to their son Josh.

Elspeth said...

The Duggars seem to have the chaperones right next to or even in between the courting couples so every word is overheard. The Bateses allow the couples to sit next to each other while driving without someone in between and allow them to sit at their own table in a restaurant and to walk a distance ahead. Kelly has said that they need to be able to have discussions that someone isn't listening in on.

Meme said...

Elspeth you are correct. LOL. Remember when Muchelle was chaperoning one of the girls - can't remember if it was Jill or Jessa - and everyone was in a little truck? She put her rear right up front! I thought they would all fall out. And as I recall, the couple had separate seats, not one extended seat. Yet Mama decided to cram herself in between them rather than sit in the back. Wonder how all this will go over with an experienced dater like Jeremy?

Heart in Florida said...

Kelly Bates has stated that the courting couples need one on one time to have conversations "that they have to have" with the chaperones at a distance so as not to hear them converse. At least that is some type of verbal privacy given to them. The Duggars merely allow one hour on the phone for the courting couples to talk. Do they have an egg timer and tell them, "sorry, time's up". I highly doubt that the Duggar couples speak about anything really important. In the small write up about their "revised courting book", Jessa, I believe, stated two things they spoke about and one of them was about the bible and it's verses. Sorry, I believe in God, but I don't think that's what they should be exploring privately on the phone for only one hour when you're trying to decide if you want to marry this stranger....just suffocating, IMO. I have said from the beginning of my introduction to this family, that the Duggars are "scared to death"...now it has been revealed why they are so scared and choking of their children...(Josh's incidents). They also are unnecessarily severe, and do their children no real favors. Michelle, as a woman of today, should hang her head in shame as to how she has disabled her daughters. This stuff has nothing to do with a belief in God, Christian or otherwise. They are social customs, NOT religious ones.

Willow said...

Meme - You are so correct. It was Ben and Jessa during courtship. The little truck only had a front seat and Michelle crammed in between them. My question always was: Wasn't she being immodest to put herself crammed up against Ben? More immodest than for Jessa to, in my opinion. Again, Jim Bob and Michelle are just gross. They don't seem to think things through.

Susie said...

Any man or woman over 18 should reject these silly Gothard rules for courtship. They look ridiculously stupid going through them and of course they are prevented from private communication which a couple must have to learn about each other. I can't see John David, Jana, Nathan, Lawson finding "best friends" their age that would put up with this stupidity. Even the Bates version does not allow for building trust. And who wants to live with no birth control! YIKES!
Run Ashley Run.....

lisa mcginess said...

personally I think the duggars are the way they are because of what happened with josh they have become overboard with these courtships they just do not want their kids to have something bad happen to them? but they also need to see that they are killing their kids.

Susie said...

Something bad is happening to all of them because of their father's desire to live like a man in the 19th century. There ought to be a law!

Duggarsbegone said...

Can you imagine what would happen to the family if something happened to JB and he was no longer there to run everyone's lives. Everyone, especially the girls and Michelle, would probably implode because they would have no one to tell them what to believe and what not to do. How sad that this family is so screwed up, and how sad that it is their own doing that made them this way. What a waste.

Lu said...

I remember Jana saying it was all weirdos who were contacting them with interest in the girls. Seems Jill and Jessa didn't care. Maybe Jana knew best and has been passing on these who want in on this deal.

Heart in Florida said...

If anything happened to Jim Bob (and I wish them all health and to be 'ok'), it would be Mary Duggar who would take over, but in an indirect way. None of MIchelle's adult children, nor Michelle herself is equipped in knowing how to live. After all, Mary Duggar lived a normal 20th century woman's life. She had a husband, household, children AND worked real jobs. She knows what's what more than she admits to the "Duggar public". In years to come, if she were to pass on also, then this family would be in serious trouble.

Always said...

Re: Michelle's ridiculous act of shoving herself between Jessa & Ben in the truck. I can't help but wonder how much stricter Michelle & Jim Bob will be with the younger kids as they mature & are of an age to court or marry. I've said before & I still believe that the actions of Jim Bob & Michelle at the very least border on abuse & it's a shame there is there are no rules & regulations in place about how you treat your young adults. If the kids were young & being physically abused CPS could step in but once they are 18, apparently they still have not one bit of freedom. Hey Michelle & Jim Bob we just celebrated July 4th & that means freedom for those in the USA. I am well aware that many in this country don't have the freedom they deserve but at least there are people they can go to for help, groups of people who will try to obtain that freedom & the rights those kids are entitled to. They may not succeed but they keep on trying if they fail the first time. Your kids have nobody to go to except the spouses you have hand picked for them or worse to you Jim Bob, King of the Duggar Kingdom.

Wendy Heusel said...

heard when ben and Jessa were courting they talked nightly with out the parents listening? anyone think this is really true? wonder why these people do not speak up for themselves. honestly wondering how Jinger courtship is going. she needs to speak up for herself not let the parents rule her?

Sabrina Afton said...

I would say the adult children suffer from something like Stockholm Syndrome. They are totally dependent on the ones who have ruined their lives, beat them into submission when they were only babies on a blanket and continued to be terrorized throughout their childhood, afraid to have an independent thought or action. Now they are dulled out & submissive without direction other then to obey the crazy rules and stay away from the outside sinful world, except with accountability partners. Will this partner thing continue into their middle age. Why does Jimbob not need an accountability partner??

Lu said...

JimBob makes the rules so he decided he didn't need an accountability partner. Michelle is his joyfully available buddy but he is master of the domain and everybody is accountable to him.

Where in the bible does it say we are required to haveown accountability partner? Where does that even come from?

Elspeth said...

Where in the bible does it say we are required to haveown accountability partner? Where does that even come from?
That would be from the Gospel of Gothard and the Epistle of Jim Bob.
Don't worry, they aren't in the version I read either.

Denisean said...

Apparently you don't need an accountability partner once you are married, because, you know, married people never cheat with prostitutes or anything like that.

Just Disgusted said...

I know it's only my opinion but I truly believe that both Jim Bob & Michelle are severely mentality ill. It seems to be a cross between belonging to a cult & the obvious mental illness they both suffer from. Those kids are in real danger with those two as parents. TLC is doing nobody any good as they continue to support them & their lifestyle. Yes Jim Bob is an expert at making money but he is ruining the lives of those children.

As a matter of a fact... said...

Elspeth, That is so funny and the best thing I have read! You hit the nail RIGHT on the head. How in this world does Jim Bob explain to his children,that they are to strictly follow Gothard ways, but nowhere is it in any part of the Bible? There has to be one out of that many that has/will question this.

Nick said...

Aren't all religious people only privately accountable to only God?

Bored_now said...

They said once that they send their kids out 'two by two', like Jesus did. Say what you will, but that's definitely in the Bible. Not saying it justifies the insanity of 'accountability partners', but that's the scriptural basis they cited on the show.

Helen Crump said...

with all that we have been reading about Jeremy and now some phots of him before his "conversion", according to the Duggar Manual of Life, Jinger is getting a "cup full of spit" as a husband. Why have such extreme rules, call it remaining pure, then let their own deprived daughter accept a cup of spit as a husband? I'm not putting Jeremy down for his past activities, but trying to put the Duggar "rules" in to logic.
They are a disgraceful pair, Jim Bob and Michelle, and should hang their heads in shame about that they have put their own adult children through. They, themselves, enjoyed a regular dating life with each other, ( you don't have to have sex to have a regular dating life, and enjoy time together alone), and they turned out to marry, and be a "successful couple" in their own eyes....why not give their own children that same healthy growth experience during their youth? They are illogical and quite immature themselves.

too bad,so sad said...

As a matter of fact-
I think you will find that the first thing people like Duggars and Gothard do is teach and then enforce the belief that the worst thing anyone can do is to question things that are presented by them, think rationally or doubt. After that, they can control with wild abandon because no one tries to correct any crazy ideas or ask for reasons for the belief or rules.
I haven't watched the shows, but have seen things posted here. Most teenagers question everything and doubt everything their parents say. Have any of the 19 kids done that ever? IDK but am curious.

Ashika said...

Of all the girls, Jinger had a special spark and life to her, even a dream to move to a city and become a photographer. To kill her hopes, Jinger has been thrust into this courtshp and realizes sh can no longer dream. I feel the harsh reality of the rest of her life has sunk in so that is the reason her special spark has left her eyes in recent photos. I am sensing Jeremy will be a tough task master.

Aunt Bea said...

Yes, that "two by two" that Jesus sent his disciples out....that was when they went out to preach....not when they went to Wal Mart for a gallon of milk. The Duggars take everything to an extreme and "borrow" what they want to from the bible and twist it around to choke their children, infant to adult. It's sad that their own kids don't know anything that their parents didn't tell them. No independent learning at all going on there. I bet they would be surprised if someone let them know about "preaching two by two" really meant.

Lu said...

Something about Jeremy seems "off" to me

marla M. said...

Seems a guy like Jeremy, who was arrested for screaming obscentities, attacking a police officer, being put in jail....is the best man they can find for Jinger. What a shameful thing to stick her with this older man with anger problems.

Pam said...

I agree, Marla. Hopefully Jeremy was just being a young, stupid kid back then and has grown up now. I pray, for Jinger's sake he has solved any anger issues. My problem all along with these stupid, monitored courtships is that these girls never get to see how a young man will treat them when no one is watching. They will be on their best behavior.

laura said...

Pam- I agree. Of course one will show their best self in order to get the goodies.
Is he one of those fervent zealots who is fueled by controlling others in weird ways? Will he self-deny himself and Jinger a normal life? I want to hear what his friends say about him.

Just watched a heartbreaking and horrendous video made late year of Jinger stating how she has sinned so many times, realized she wouldn't be able to get into Heaven and knew at age 7 she was a sinner, didn't believe in Jesus til age 14 and so on.
How has a young child has never been alone in their life and has every single day and thought planned for her a huge sinner?
What kind of parent would encourage this train of thought? Don't they train their kids to be perfect little religibots?
She seemed extremely affected by her beliefs. My heart absolutely broke for her. This, if nothing else suggests brainwashing and cult rearing behavior! Jim Bob and Michelle should have those children taken away before more damage is done. Manufactured 'Christian' robots.
They should be ASHAMED of themselves. I was so angry to hear poor Jinger say these things. Her life has been stolen from her by two SICK individuals that the television industry keeps churning along.
How unbelievably sad that a small girl is consumed by these horrible thoughts when she should be running about and playing, REALLY learning how to play her instrument, socializing, learning about the world, being curious, etc.
I cant say it enough- my heart breaks for these children.they have no chance, no clue, no help, no idea.
No spark, no life, no creativity, no freedom, no individuality, no education.
What on earth is going on in that house. How can they live like this with no one saying anything?
So much more I want to say but it all comes down to the same thing- a sick, sad, controlled world those FREAK parents created who get PAID with money and infamy to destroy their children.
I feel sick thinking about them. Going to try to detach myself from the situation because I don't see an end to madness.

FREE JINGER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Aunt Bea said...

I agree, laura, that no child should be told that they are sinners and most likely will not make it to heaven. What a scary, beyond their own control thing to lay on a child! I wonder if Jilly and Jessa have told their little boys that they are nothing but a pair of sinners too and won't go to heaven unless they confess their sins to mommy and daddy? How utterly outrageous to support such a thing. That stops these souls in their tracks....I agree, if NEVER alone, always "busy" with chores to do how can they sin??? I would think they also afraid to have ANY thoughts in their own heads for it might lead them to "sinful thoughts", thoughts which really aren't sinful at all...like second guessing their parents about chores given them to do..what mind control, IMO. Jim Bob and Michelle need to take a good look at themselves in the mirror and see what they have done with themselves and their children....where is Mary Duggar in all this? She had a normal household, AND worked a real job during her marriage...does she think she led a sinful life too? Someone needs to objectively ask these people these questions and bring up the issues they try to avoid like the plague.
Also, if wearing skirts is "Michelle's own personal conviction", why then, didn't she afford her own daughters shorts, capris and pants when they were growing up. She stated she didn't "think wearing pants was a SIN", just her personal conviction..she is full of it, IMO. The Bates family, etc. do the same thing in requiring the daughters to only wear skirts or dressed....that IS NOT ANYONE'S OWN PERSONAL CONVICION... they also wouldn't be offended if their grown children wore conservative shorts or ladies pants around them.... yet they don't allow this either. Liars, IMO, all of them.

Willow said...

Laura and Aunt Bea - Beautifully stated and I SO agree with you both. The control of children AND adults is just mindboggling!!

Abby K. said...

Does anyone know if Mary Duggar is still living with another family member? I doubt Jimbob would announce her leaving the family but I sure hope she came to her senses, left the laundry room and is freely enjoying her days elsewhere.

Helen Crump said...

I would like to know why after the "JinJer announcement" it has been radio silence from the happy couple? The Duggars haven't posted anything about Jeremy and Jinger. Something's up.

Auggie said...

Someone on here called it - saying now that Jinger is courting she'll have her own Facebook page. Yup she has one now.

Willow said...

I was also wondering why the dead silence about Jinger & Jeremy. When Nathan Bates and his ex-girlfriend went quiet, there was a little trouble in paradise so to speak.

Marla Ann said...

Why no more reports on Jeremy/Jinger?? Maybe Jeremy did something horrific to Jinger, like a front hug or quickly speak to her alone without Jimbob listening and she's terrified, thinking she has sinned again and is hell bound, like when she was a little girl.

Hello said...

The courtship of Jinger and Jeremy will likely be seen on the new season of Counting On. Jimboob will stop at nothing to keep his family on TV to keep the money rolling in. The show will be about courting and all the rules that go along with it. Jinger will say that she decided that there will be no frontal hugs, hand holding and that she is saving her first kiss for her wedding day, when in reality they are Jimboob and Mullet's courting rules. If they are already engaged, they will show the courtship and proposal and the wedding will be filmed for another season. Yawn.

Angie said...

Not again with the courting rules!! We all know the rules by now. I bet this grown man Jeremy will want a quick wedding so he can finally do a front hug!!

Willow said...

I don't watch the show anymore but really, this will be the 4th "courtship". I think the audience knows the "rules" by now. They really can skip that part on the new season, but they probably won't.

Ruby said...

Radio silence with Jinger and Jeremy can mean two things: 1) they've already broken up or 2) Jinger visited Jeremy in Texas with her mommy and daddy and it was filmed by TLC. Jinger excitedly created her very own Instagram account and promptly posted every picture of the two of them together already. Now Jinger is back home pining away for her "best friend" and Jeremy is in Texas keeping himself occupied with his work/ministry.

Marites H. said...

Showing off all the photos of the two of them together -- typical jr. high girl behaviour. I've given up on watching the show but come here for updates.

Little Bits said...

How dare they do a show around Jinger courting. No frontal hugs, no hand holding, no first kiss until Daddy announces they are man & wife. We saw how well that worked out for Josh & Anna. I would think even the camera crew would tire of this fantasy but I guess they all have their hands in TLC's pockets too

Just Me said...

It seems like it's an assembly line now in the Duggar house to marry off the next available daughter. We haven't ever seen John David talk about a girl but the girls in the family are fair game for whoever Daddy decides would make a good son-in-law.
I know it must be a very difficult situation or those girls but I can't believe they are so brainwashed that they just go along with what Daddy tells them to do. After all they have seen & heard about the normal teen yrs. that Michelle had. Shouldn't they be allowed at least some of that freedom? Brings back the memory of Jim Bob touring Jill & Derrick home & making the crude comment in the bedroom, that the phone was right there,they could call him when they had conceived. That was one of the most obscene comments to come across the TV screen. This family is a disgrace & TLC is compliant in this mess.

Robert J. said...

It may be that Jimbob is hard at work trying to locate a girl to court one of those uneducated, creepier by the year, sons but no parent will hand over their girl to him. Anna's family might have been the only family in the world to do that. Who would want to see their daughter suffering a home birth without medical help for the world to watch on the Duggar show? The 17 year old girl who was beginning courting with one of those boys suddenly ran when Josh's scandals appeared. It could be that the jobless boys will remain unmarried unless they break loose from this insanity and get some training and job and I don't mean scamming the public as fake missionaries, making believe they are a religious rapper or being Jimbob's handyman. The world is full of opportunities for a young man even without a high school diploma. Go to trade school to be a welder or auto mechanic or start a land clearing business with your brothers since the equipment already sits on the Duggar property. Just do not sit there getting older, more out shape and balder with nothing in your pockets or on your minds.

Willow said...

Yes. They need jobs but a job outside of Duggarland would require a schedule. That is not in the Duggar skill set, especially after all the years on T.V. They want to work by giving speeches, traveling to seminars, conferences, book signings, etc. They want to work by way of filming for television. They are LAZY. I am sure they were having trouble adjusting to their reduced appearances for awhile. However, it appears their show is back, so WHEW!, they can just keep on mowing lawns for J.B. and goofing around with their friends - going to Cow Day and free IHOP, the trampoline park, Silver Dollar City, etc. Having fun is about all they know. I am exempting John David from my comments. He is a pilot and has other etc. jobs that we all know about already. He gets a pass. He works even more than Jim Bob, IMO. I think this is another reason they want missionaries, ministers, etc. in the family, because, again, no rigid schedule. Jeremy will have to make church services on time, however. Hope it is not too rough on him.

Big kite said...

I doubt John David accually makes enough money flying people around to even keep up those planes, so scratch that job as real!

Lu said...

Why in the world that family needs a plane is beyond me. Can you imagine them cramming that ginormous family into it to go somewhere? And having a family so huge that it takes a big ol bus gives one an idea about what size plane they would need to haul the group.

Bytheway said...

Just Me I remember that scene in Jill and Derrick's bedroom...that was just too creepy and inappropriate! It makes me cringe to this day. I can't imagine my husband EVER saying something like that to my daughters. Jim Bob is disgusting.

Flighty said...

John David holds a private pilot license. He cannot fly people for hire. He can carry passengers, but cannot be paid for his services as a pilot.

"Passengers may be carried and flight in furtherance of a business is permitted; however, a private pilot may not be compensated in any way for services as a pilot, although passengers can pay a pro rata share of flight expenses, such as fuel or rental costs. Private pilots may also operate charity flights, subject to certain restrictions, and may participate in similar activities, such as Angel Flight, Civil Air Patrol and many others."

Flying is an expensive hobby that John David can afford thanks to the show.

Big kite said...

I would be surprised if the combined annual income from all of the adult children, older than 18 years, exceeds $30,000. These "adults" could not survive without daddy's money. Pretty sad.

TeenLife said...

"[The girls] have seen & heard about the normal teen yrs. that Michelle had."

No. What they have heard that Michelle unwittingly inspired lust in a neighbor by mowing the lawn in a bikini, leading to his divorce(!), and later on, to the adoption of the "modest" outfits, including (especially) swimwear. They have heard that she gave away pieces of her heart by DATING other boys before meeting JimBob, causing difficulties in her marriage that she had to overcome through complete submission. They have heard that she and JimBob "went further than they should have" before marriage, leading to the rigid courting rules (No front hugs, no unchaperoned time together, no private conversations, no handholding before engagement and NO KISSING BEFORE MARRIAGE, among others).

Michelle's teenage years are constantly paraded to the children (and the public) as a cautionary tale, not something to be envied or admired or emulated. These stories are a large part of her repertoire, and have been repeated over and over again, both on the show and in the speeches she gives.

Sad, but true.

Big kite said...

So TeenLife, Michelle preaches to her children, do as I say, not as I did. I say some things people have to learn by making their own mistakes and experiencing/suffer the consequences. Josh was spared real concequences for touching a 5 year old, and that's why I have no respect for Anna letting him near those kids.

Lisa Mcginess said...

all these strict courting rules are all because of Josh? they are very strict because of all the things that happen with Josh they wanted to watch the others more closely. and these rules were the only way possible they could do it.

Adrina said...

The courting rules should apply to the age of 21 then these adults should be able to go out on their own. JImbob & Michelle should trust in their own teachings. In just a few years, these young adults will be 30 years old but still abiding by the courting rules with little children watching their every move from the back see of a car. Now that is spooky. When Jibob & Michelle were pushing 30, no one was telling them their every move. They have raised children stuck in childhood though they are now adults. It has occurred to me that that since they all claim to have a serving heart, why not start a charity to help the less fortunate right there in Arkansas since they are only sitting around doing nothing. Think of all the great selfies they could take bragging on themselves.

Gertrude said...

Michelle & Jimbob got to know each other before marriage, talk privately and have affection which is necessary for a compatible marriage. The arranged marriages of the daughters did not permit this and now it seems neither girl is too thrilled with her lot in life. No more babies yet might be a clue.

Chloe said...

Haven't heard much news about Jeremy & Jinger are they still dating. I choose to write the word dating vs courting. If the Duggars read this post they can just deal with my choice or words.

Christine said...

laura wrote "Just watched a heartbreaking and horrendous video made late year of Jinger stating how she has sinned so many times, realized she wouldn't be able to get into Heaven and knew at age 7 she was a sinner, didn't believe in Jesus til age 14 and so on."

Oh my gosh. Poor Jinger....She was born in December 1993. 17KAC episodes started airing in September 2008, so they would have started filming around June 2008 and the family probably started talking with TLC about a reality TV series in early 2008. Jinger would have turned 14 in December 2007, so as her family is preparing to go on TV to talk about their wonderful big, Christian family or even as the show is airing, she's struggling with her faith. I really hope that she didn't come to believe in Jesus because she felt pressured to be the good Christian daughter that the TV viewers all wanted her to be.

Big kite said...

There will be more babies when the show starts back up again, which begs the question "How are Jessa & Jill controlling pregnancies. Do I hear birth control? Sacrilegious!

Arial said...

Witnessing Jessa almost bleeding to death during a long and painful home childbirth pushing out a huge baby has perhaps terrified Ben and he doesn't want to be the cause of that horror again. Can you imagine the trauma of a sheltered boy barely out of his teen age years watching the long drawn out childbirth of his new little wife with no medical help? As for Jill....look at Derrick!! Is he even capable of making a baby in his sickly condition? Now it's up to poor Jinger to get impregnated ASAP & keep the show rolling along. I doubt she's looking forward to her future.

laura said...

All Quiet on the Jinger Front

Just Unbelievable said...

Re:Adrina's comment. I really don't wish to offend, but no way do I think "courting"& all the rules that go with courting should be in effect until age 21. That would mean that couples could not even hold hands with a possible future mate, while the family is gathered around in a circle praying before a meal. A eighteen yr. or nineteen yr. old couldn't go to the movies, out for dinner or a cup of coffee, have a private phone call, etc. until they reached the age of 21. Courting is not the same to the Duggars as being engaged, when they tend to loosen up the rules & allow some, but still very little contact with a person of another gender. I know this is my own personal opinion but I wonder how many on this blog believe that courting should apply until the age of 21. For goodness sake you can vote & go to war before that age!

Marlana said...

Maybe the courting rules could end when they graduate from high school, but oooooops, there is no elementary school or high school in the Duggar world. I have enough trouble keeping my kids occupied over summer vacation so I cannot imagine having all those Duggar children at home every single day of the year with minimal schooling, wondering how they will "get their energy out", like one would think about pets..."let the dogs out to run in the back yard" sort of thoughts.

Carla said...

Jinger might be quietly considering the future that has been planned for her and feeling dread. These arranged marriages are almost Middle Eastern in design.

Sharla said...

I have updated with the engagement announcement.

Gen said...

I think it's been the relationship that moved the fastest. Am I right? Jill and Derick had known each other (via the phone and the web) for a while before they started courting (though that was pretty fast once they met) and it was another while before they got engaged. Jessa and Ben's relationship moved fairly slow by their standards and if I remember well, they were teased about that. As for Josh and Anna's mess, we didn't really see courting per say, on the show it went straight to engagement.

Jinger is moving FAST. They met in may, started courting in June, got engaged in July. Either it's for the show, or Jinger is desperate to get hitched to get out of her father's house.

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