17 Kids and Counting

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17 Kids and Counting follows the Duggars - America's favorite large family - in their first-ever television series. Jim Bob, Michelle and all the children welcome viewers into their family with 17 Kids and Counting, premiering Wednesday, October 1, at 9 PM (ET/PT) on Discovery Health. ...continued

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Serena said...

17 KIDS AND COUNTING

[NOTE: The following article is a press release issued by Discovery. Any errors, typos, etc. are attributed to the original author. The release is reproduced solely for the dissemination of the enclosed information.]

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17 Kids and Counting follows the Duggars - America's favorite large family - in their first-ever television series. Jim Bob, Michelle and all the children welcome viewers into their family with 17 Kids and Counting, premiering Wednesday, October 1, at 9 PM (ET/PT) on Discovery Health.

SILVER SPRING, Md., Sept. 9 -- It's official: The Duggars are a true pop culture phenomenon. With their regular appearances on national talk shows, their countless press clippings and their enormous online following, this 19-member family from Arkansas has all of America talking. However, while millions of people know of the Duggars, few are familiar with the individual personalities and unique experiences that make the family who they are. Audiences will get the definitive view into this one-of-a-kind world on Wednesday, October 1, at 9 PM (ET/PT) when Discovery Health presents the all-new series, 17 Kids and Counting.

The patriarch and matriarch of this large -- and still growing -- group are former high school sweethearts, Jim Bob and Michelle. With values rooted in their strong personal faith, Jim Bob and Michelle firmly believe that every child is a gift to be cherished. After more than 20 years of marriage, the couple has received 17 gifts -- ten boys, seven girls -- with number 18 on the way. With only two sets of twins among the 17 children, Michelle has been pregnant for nearly 12 of her 40 years on earth. Another vital piece of Duggar trivia is that each child's name begins with a "J" -- Joshua, Jana, John-David, Jill, Jessa, Jinger, Joseph, Josiah, Joy-Anna, Jeremiah, Jedidiah, Jason, James, Justin, Jackson, Johannah and baby Jennifer.

The premiere episode of 17 KIDS AND COUNTING takes culture shock to the next level, as the family journeys to New York City for a Mother's Day surprise. Viewers will see that hailing cabs in the Big Apple for 19 people is difficult -- but not impossible. Later, the series introduces viewers to the latest business venture for the always entrepreneurial family -- the Duggar Used Car Lot. Finally, this family that is known for births also has a wedding to plan with the engagement of eldest son Josh. Viewers will follow the couple from courtship to the altar and have the chance to learn about dating "Duggar style," where hand-holding is a luxury that only the engaged can enjoy.

Online at discoveryhealth.com, visitors can get to know each member of the Duggar family by reading each person's biography and viewing the family's photo album. Also online are Duggar-family-themed interactive games and video bloopers from the series. Visitors can even add their own input on a name for baby number 18!

17 KIDS AND COUNTING is produced for Discovery Health by Figure 8 Films. For Discovery Health, Alon Orstein is executive producer. For Figure 8 Films, Kirk Streb is executive producer and Sean Overbeeke is writer, director and producer.

Anonymous said...

I knew it was just a matter of time until they had their own show.

I'm glad you started this blog, I think it's going to be an important one.

ThreeFarmers said...

It will be interesting to compare and contrast the Gosselins and the Duggars.

I've always loved the Duggars, but I know that here are people who think those kids are too sheltered or aren't allowed to express themselves. And while I respect those opinions, I think items like fashionable clothing, television, and video games are overrated when it comes to the successful rearing of a child.

I so hope I don't end up eating my words and that they don't fall victim to the black hole of greed that has taken over the Gosselins.

cupcake tin said...

I'm inclined the way Three Farmers is. The Duggars, while totally counter cultural to most of us, seem innocuous in their lifestyle. We all make choices to raise our families as we see fit much to someone else's chagrin. Example: I raise my kids Catholic next door to a Seventh Day Adventist who believes the Catholic Church is the anti-Christ.

My hope is that the Duggars serve as a contrast to J&K with how lovingly they accept children and what true hard work looks like. We shall see!

Anonymous said...

The Duggar parents strike me as extremely image savvy. I suspect a lot of disturbing stuff goes on behind the scenes. Some leaks out: blanket training, sin in the camp, lack of an education. However, only friendly stuff gets filmed. I don't buy it at face value.

ThreeFarmers said...

I raise my kids Catholic next door to a Seventh Day Adventist who believes the Catholic Church is the anti-Christ.

Bet your neighbor's fun on Halloween!

Kristen said...

I don't think the Duggars will ever end up as greedy etc. as the Gosselins are. They have morals that they seem to be sticking to.

Glenda said...

The difference between the Duggers and the Gosselins??? The Duggers are a HAPPY family with just as much organization as Jon and Kate but without all the hateful words to each other. They built their own house, cook their own food (not organic!) and they don't humilate their kids. I look forward to the show.

sabrinasmom said...

I used to think the Duggars were "creepy" - they seemed almost like their own self-contained cult. Though, watching the Gosselin Greed Group, has made me appreciate that the Duggars strive to live life without debt, don't care about name brand matchy matchy clothes, and practice what they preach. Organic Food? Gotta love the Tater Tot Casserole.

Anonymous said...

I'm willing to bet the Duggars will truly sock the $ away for their futures.

I know a family like the Duggars and the mothers are literally taught how to be calm, supportive, mature, spouses (not doormats) and how to be patient, fair, loving, mothers yet also "train" and prepare their children etc.. They take this calling seriously.

I'm a tad scared but overall happy this show will be a success for the family and everyone involved.

Anonymous said...

Aren't the Duggars exploiting their children just like the Gosselins?

Anonymous said...

I am happy to say I know we will not be seeing Michelle Duggar slapping JimBob, nor criticizing him incessantly ( I don't think she has a narcissistic bone in her body ). We will not be seeing Duggars on the potty, in the shower, or having meltdowns...not even the kids. I'm sure they won't be placing rude signs in their yard demanding that no one talk to them, and best of all, we will get to see a Christian family who actually walks the walk.

The Duggars are definitely different, but I really admire them for how well they work together and show love for one another. I'm a little disappointed the kids will be losing some privacy, but I'll bet JimBob and Michelle have already made certain rooms off limits to cameras.

Anonymous said...

Its a series? Or more like a group of specials that they have lined up because of big events?

I can get behind a series of "specials" and I wish the Gosselins would follow their lead. There is something to film there, a wedding, a new baby. The Gosselins are resorting to filming poop and Kate screaming.

Anonymous said...

I am loving this new blog. ;) Thanks for putting it up!

Just Me said...

Anonymous said...
Aren't the Duggars exploiting their children just like the Gosselins?

9/14/2008 8:55 PM


I dont see how they're not!

I honestly like the Gs better than the Ds. While we wont see any slapping or unfriendly banter between them, we also wont be seeing the truth from them either. I dont think anyone can actually be that calm and friendly ALL the time.
I dont get off on their "buddy system" Each of the older kids have a younger one to look after, how is that a good situation??? Yes it teaches them responsibility but it also doesnt alow them to be kids themselves.

I have problems with both familys but I prefer the Gs because gosh darn it, their kids are (IMO) so freakin adorable!

ThreeFarmers said...

I would have to say that they are exploiting their children but the jury is still out on the "just like the Gosselins" part.

We'll have to see if the exploitation involves showing the children on the potty, in the shower, and running around in their undies. Lets wait and see if any of the Duggar children force their hand in front of the lens because they don't wish to be filmed. I'll watch carefully to see if Jim Bob and Michelle criticize some children in front of the camera, but not others. It will be interesting to see what sort of favoritism Michelle thinks is appropriate. We'll see which Duggar child, in a moment of desperation, has to put a sign on the bedroom door just to get some privacy from the cameras.

I'll be anxious to see how long it takes Michelle to get all those kids decked out in the latest fashions from Gymboree and The Gap and then sell them on consignment.

Yes, the definition of "exploitation" is to use or utilize in order to gain. I'm sure several paychecks will be written as the result of this show and I'm not necessarily fine with that, but I'm willing to give it a watch, just like I did Jon and Kate.

Somehow, I think we'll see two different programs, entirely.

ThreeFarmers said...

Of course, the most important question is:

How many episodes will be dedicated to Michelle's spa days? To make her a better Mommy, of course.

Jen said...

I live in Canada and the show has already aired here, it's nothing new. Compared to the G's they are a breath of fresh air, sure their lifestyle might be diff and the kids might have more responsibilities than most, but they all seem happy, well adjusted, there is no petty bickering back and forth btw the parents, and they don't seem to have changed from the fame they already have, as far as I know their show has been on for some time now....they also don't ask for hand-outs and don't lead ppl to believe they are in a poor financial situation, I actually really like the Duggars and think the mom is great!

Steph said...

I'm not a fan of the Duggars, but Michelle will NEVER say she didn't want any of her kids (Kate has said she was a "fertility nightmare") and I don't think she would ever say a mean thing about any of them, but rather point out each one's positive traits. And the Duggars have some darn good looking children,too. I saw them announcing Michelle's pregnancy on TV, and there was not a bad looking kid in the lot.
I disagree vehemently with their homeschooling and lifestyle, but from the specials I have seen, Michelle is respectful, calm, and honestly loves each and every one of her children. She lets them get dirty, play outside, and do things that kids do, without a word about stains. Her kids don't wince when she approaches them, and they don't glaze over. They know they are loved. I can't say that about the Gosselins.
And as others have said, I bet there are tons of "off limits" areas that the cameras will not be allowed to enter. I bet not one of their babies is even shown having a diaper changed without Michelle blocking all but the head. I bet the kids' rooms will be off limits unless they say it's okay, and no way in hell will any of those kids be shown in any stage of undress. And if one kid wants to be off the show, I bet that kid's desires are respected. And if Figure 8 does one thing out of line, I have no doubt they will no longer be welcomed. They may be a weird family, but I won't say they are a bad family.

Anonymous said...

"I'm a little disappointed the kids will be losing some privacy, but I'll bet JimBob and Michelle have already made certain rooms off limits to cameras."

"Of course, the most important question is: How many episodes will be dedicated to Michelle's spa days? To make her a better Mommy, of course."

"I actually really like the Duggars and think the mom is great!"

"They may be a weird family, but I won't say they are a bad family."
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Sounds like some exploitation of children is okay in a reality show - as long as the viewers like Mom or the family values.

Anonymous said...

The Duggars sold out. If they are self-sufficient, why do they need a show which pays $70,000 a week? The Duggars supposedly had it all figured out: how to survive without any outside help.

Anonymous said...

"The difference between the Duggers and the Gosselins??? The Duggers are a HAPPY family with just as much organization as Jon and Kate but without all the hateful words to each other. They built their own house, cook their own food (not organic!) and they don't humilate their kids. I look forward to the show."


I think we all felt this way about Kon at first too...clearly you cant judge a book by its cover. The Duggars are still exploiting their children and I think we will find out things we dont like about them too...IMO

Aggiegal said...

Since I know next to nothing about the Duggars I went to their site to learn more about them. I like that they are hard working and seem to work as a team. Not a fan of the homeschooling or religion (quiverfull movement) but that is their business, just not my choice. The education they provide seems fine (they go into a day's schedule on the site) if the children don't want to go to college. If they do want to go to college they'll probably need to take some remedial courses to get up to speed.

The children don't seem to be responsible for paying the mortgage or family expenses - I like that too, though I wouldn't be surprised if they have benefited financially from the public interest in their family (such as oh a series of specials for TV).

As far as bedrooms off limits, they show the bedrooms on the web site. The boys have one large bedroom and the girls one large bedroom. I don't know that they will actually show any filming in that role.

Will this show be "child exploitation". I don't know where the line ends between doing a fun television show and exploitation. In part because the extremes are easy to define, but the middle gray area difficult. I certainly think that Jon and Kate crossed that line a long time ago though. That said, one form of advocacy for children on reality shows (such as that by A Minor Consideration) as centered around having an independent child's advocate on set to monitor hours and working conditions, and an independent review of the contracts with respect to finances and payment to the children. I think that all reality shows with children should be required to meet this standard, whether the parents are generally responsible or not.

ThreeFarmers said...

You missed my previous post where I said that I'm not necessarily fine with the exploitation, but I'll give this program the same chance I gave J&K.

I was a big fan of J&K until I started seeing the children in various stages of undress and them constantly singling out Mady on her behavior. I originally found out about all of the Gosselins shenanigans while doing a search on Mady to see what was being done to help her. To watch her on the show with no background or behind-the-scenes information, I was sure I learn that they had her in some sort of counseling to deal with her obvious acting out. No such luck for Mady.

Believe me, I'll be watching this show with the Duggars on a very short leash.

Carol said...

I believe that we'll be seeing a lot more of this family's faith and
how it is a part of their lives, as opposed to the Gosselins. Their Christian faith affects every aspect of their lives, I don't think we'll be seeing it "edited out" they way the Gosselins have claimed the network potrays them.
I also suspect that part of the reason that the Duggars agreed to do this series was to show how their faith affects raising their family.

SmartyQ said...

I've seen only one Duggar show—the one where they went on vacation—so I'm not an expert on Duggardom. The one thing that stood out for me was how natural Michelle was in expressing affection for her children. One of her younger sons was standing beside her as she was talking and doing something. Without stopping her talking, she reached over and stroked his head. That's all.

When Kate shows affection to one of her sons, it's a production. First, we get, 'Laaaaadies and Gentlemennnnn, please turn your attention to the center ring where the star of our show, our plucky heroine, Katie Irene, will show affectionnnnn to one of her sons. Maestro, if you please' ::drum roll:: Then terrified boy tup is thrust into spotlight and grabbed in head cranking bear hug. (Audience applauds or groans, a few boo and hiss)

Anonymous said...

A Got a feeling this series is going to be borring as all heck...

... they are all too nice and perfect!

MidnightSun said...

I don't think the Duggars and the Gosselins can even be compared. They are two totally different families. Like day and night. Apples and oranges. You get the idea...

The Gosselins ended up with 8 children without knowing they would, because of the fertility treatments. The Duggars knew how they wanted to live their life, and embrace every child they have had with love and happiness. I will admit that I also have some doubts about their demeanor - I am sure there are arguments and not everyone is happy 100% of the time. But I doubt that there is some sort of shocking behind-the-scenes scandal going on with them.

I was a bit surprised to learn they were developing a regular series, though. The Duggars didn't seem like the type to want to do something like that, but I will not judge them until I see the show for myself.

Anonymous said...

Gosh what's up with DH..?
They are also doing a show on a family of 6 kids on the autism spectrum.
I HATE shows like that because it sends out a misconception of what mild Aspergers or Autism spectrum kids are like in real life.
Especially if the public only sees a child thats aggressive or has melt downs.
Where many other kids don't present that way at all and just struggle with being bullied because they are the "nerdy" version of these disorders....

I also saw another show of a family of sextuplets called Then came 6.

Now the Duggars.

Nancy said...

I admire the Duggars and don't for a minute think that they have, or will, "exploit" their children. I find that suggestion unbelievable. I like them, I like their values,I like the way they behave.
I've seen all the arguments against the Duggars, the main one being that they "don't give their daughters enough choices". I can't see what the kids are missing by not having what I consider "worldly" choices. The parents are raising the kids in what they consider to be a Godly life, and there is nothing wrong with it. (I disagree with the Gothard teachings, but the Duggars don't have to share my religious beliefs for me to like them.)Nobody is being exploited or "abused", the family is healthy, they take care of what they have and not always hinting for freebies.... I like them.
Incidentally, there are rooms in their new house which have never yet been seen on TV. We may never see these rooms, and that's ok with me.

Anonymous said...

It should be interesting to see how the producers deal with religion. The Duggars belong to a group/church/communty called Quiverful. This group believes in having many children, a quiverful if you will. Not very mainstream.

The Duggars also have a commercial kitchen in their home, as well as, a regular kitchen. In previous specials, the Dggars have had church services in their home. In fact I think the group go from home to home for their services.

Anonymous said...

I have watched a few of the Duggar specials and found them interesting. What I find strange (and I'm sure it's just me) is how they continue to mass produce children - good grief...one would think this poor woman's uterus would fall out!

Nadia said...

" ThreeFarmers said...
I raise my kids Catholic next door to a Seventh Day Adventist who believes the Catholic Church is the anti-Christ.

Bet your neighbor's fun on Halloween!"

Ok I just have to make a comment on this, I am a Seventh Day Adventist and have been all my life and NO I do not think that Catholic's are the anti-Christ and that has never been a teaching in our church. My Church in filled to the brim with loving and amazing people who love everyone who walks through the door. Some of my dearest friends are Cathlic's and I love them dearley

As for Halloween, my kids dress up every year just like everyone elses kids, in fact this year we are holding the neighboorhood party and spent (gulp)$600 on decorations and costumes. Many of the people who will be attending are seventh day as well. No we do not belive in the worshiping of the dead part of the holiday and you will never see my kids dressed as anything dead. But you will see them dressed as bee's and police and other fun things. I just wanted to clear that up, I know that there is alot of speculation out there;)

That being said, I have always loved the Duggers. I was shocked (and disaponted) to learn that they are making their show into a weekly program. I dont think that this is the best thing for their family as it will now open it up to alot of negativity towards their simple life style. I hope that fame does not change them as it has the Gosselins. But I guess we will have to wait and see.

Aduladi' said...

"Quiverful" is not a religion, just a belief that you rely on God to decide how many children you will have.

You can be Christian, Jewish or any other religion and believe in the quiverful movement, it just so happens that many in the quiverful movement happen to be Christians of varying denominations.

I really think that the Duggars would gladly cancel their contract with the producers before they compromise their integrity in any way. "Kon" never seemed to have any to start...

Anonymous said...

The press release doesn't sound promising. Weekly or frequent shows require lots of made-for-television situations. Unless the Duggars step it up, they'll be a bore in reality TV land, and I don't think Ma and Pa Duggar will allow that. We've seen that they make outward adjustments based on what their critics say (better clothes, for example). Could a day at a hair salon be far behind? I'm bored already.

Anonymous said...

The Duggars are just as guilty as the Gosselins! They saw the gravy train pulling off and leaving them behind, and they wanted to jump on. And so they did. They want the fame and notoriety too. If they didn't, they wouldn't announce every single thing in their lives on tv and the internet!

ThreeFarmers said...

I'm not the holiest cat in the litter box, but it would seem to me that if there was any family that was called on by God to have a swimming poolfull of children, it would be the Duggars. No fertility treatments. No health problems, that we know of. They seem genuinely endlessly grateful and humble without the massive glut of greed we see from the Gosselins.

What strikes me about the Gosselins is that they don't even recognize that GREED/AVARICE is one of the seven deadlies. It is defined as the excessive or insatiable desire for wealth or gain.

Stick a fork in jon and kate they are done said...

I wish they didn't do this. I enjoy catching up with them every year or so, but this amount on coverage is not necessary. I hope reality fame won't change them. I find their whole lifestyle interesting, and they are completely self-sufficient, which I love.

LFWH said...

Threefarmers said "Bet your neighbor's fun on Halloween"

Three Farmers you are a hoot!!! I am laughing so hard I can hardly type!! You made my Monday morning. How can I have a bad week after this comment!! LOL.

Linda said...

Aggiegal said...

That said, one form of advocacy for children on reality shows (such as that by A Minor Consideration) as centered around having an independent child's advocate on set to monitor hours and working conditions, and an independent review of the contracts with respect to finances and payment to the children. I think that all reality shows with children should be required to meet this standard, whether the parents are generally responsible or not.

I agree 100%! There needs to be an independent advocate to always look out for the best interest of the children!

ThreeFarmers said...

" ThreeFarmers said...
I raise my kids Catholic next door to a Seventh Day Adventist who believes the Catholic Church is the anti-Christ.

Bet your neighbor's fun on Halloween!"

Nadia said.....Ok I just have to make a comment on this, I am a Seventh Day Adventist and have been all my life and NO I do not think that Catholic's are the anti-Christ and that has never been a teaching in our church. My Church in filled to the brim with loving and amazing people who love everyone who walks through the door. Some of my dearest friends are Cathlic's and I love them dearley

As for Halloween, my kids dress up every year just like everyone elses kids, in fact this year we are holding the neighboorhood party and spent (gulp)$600 on decorations and costumes. Many of the people who will be attending are seventh day as well. No we do not belive in the worshiping of the dead part of the holiday and you will never see my kids dressed as anything dead. But you will see them dressed as bee's and police and other fun things. I just wanted to clear that up, I know that there is alot of speculation out there;)


Ok, Nadia. This was a JOKE. A. JOKE. I don't speculate at all about the Seveth Day Adventists because they rarely, if ever, cross my mind. In fact, my comment was more so directed to the Catholic Anti-Christ. It doesn't matter what faith you are, I think it would be pretty cool to live next to the anti-christ on Halloween.

Every year on Halloween, I get about 400 kids at my home. I don't even bother staying in the house. I sit on my front porch with a cup of coffee, my cell phone, a giant bowl of candy and my cats and just hand the stuff out.

I have a white cat. Pure white with eyes that are two different colors. The cat is kinda freaky looking. And she is always sitting quietly next to me.

A mother, who I did NOT know, came up to the porch with her children who looked to be about 6 and maybe 10 years old. The littlest kid asked to pet my white cat. I said "sure, but that's not an alive cat...that's a ghost cat who visits me every Halloween." The kid smiled and proceeded to pet the cat.

The mother then chimed in to tell me that I shouldn't tell scary stories like that. I just looked at her incredulously and said, "You bring your kids to my house dressed as DEATH (complete with dark hood and scythe), for the soul purpose of taking candy from a STRANGER and you tell me that my story about my obviously very much alive cat is scary? I'm sorry, but if you show up on my doorstep on Halloween, you get candy and a story and if you don't like it, go visit some people you know."

Yeah, I doubt they'll be back this year.

Anonymous said...

As far as Michele D changing her appearance.
Maybe she just didn't want to distract people anymore from her real message?

Maybe she woke up one day and realized that yes, maybe I do need a small makeover.

I have seen political activist get makeovers to keep people from being distracted from appearances.

Anonymous said...

Not to compare the two (but I can't help compare the Duggars and Gosselins)I have seen a difference in the two families by leaps and bounds. But one comparison that sticks out in my mind is when I saw the show in which the Duggars home was being finsihed and redecorated. Mom Duggar just seemed so humble and seemed genuinely pleased by what they had done for her family. There was "No, I don't like the way those blinds are hung!" or "That color of carpet is awful!" No, she was very gracious about all that was done in her home.

TN_Mamato4 said...

Duggars without Pity?.. Now, I am all on board for the GwP website. I am constantly disgusted by the way J&K parade and charade their children, not to mention Kate's constant condescending remarks to Jon, but the Duggars I ask you?..

Why the criticism? Is it the large family? Or the homemade 3 sizes too big clothes that they wear? Sure, the kids do a lot of chores, and their family rules are somewhat laughable, however, I welcome a large loveable family anyday over "Kon."

Yes, the Duggars are a tad on the conservative side, however, there is a definite respect and love that is evident in their household. After having to suffer from Kate's abusive manner and her annoying performances in front of the camera, Michelle's down to earth attitude is welcome. I don't believe for a second that the Duggars are using their children for fame or gain. Nothing they have done on front of camera has been extravagant AND unlike KON, they aren't constantly using others to get away from their kids to go on extravagant trips. IN FACT, the Duggars do their own cooking, cleaning, and watching after their OWN children.

You know what Figure 8 should REALLY put out?

MICHELLE Duggar teaching Kate how to be a REAL mom without the spasms, OCD mess, and perhaps a bit on "submission" from the Biblical stance. Because after all, aren't good Christians what "Kon" claim to be?..

Anonymous said...

I have read posts where the Duggars are criticized for their beliefs, their lifestyle, etc...
But you know what?
I'd LOVE to be a part of a family like that.
The Gosselins--No.

Also, although the Duggar Mom obviously is human and experiences all of the emotions that we go through with our marriages and kids....I think her sweet demeanor is genuine. She is to be credited for the way she lives.

Anonymous said...

to the 9:58 am poster, The Duggars aren't self-sufficient. If they were, they wouldn't have their own TV show. They're doing the show for the money: the Duggars are going to get paid a lot of money for doing the show. In fact if the Duggars were completely self-sufficient, they never would have been on TV. Someone posted that the mother got a makeover. I wonder if the Duggars are looking forward to servants and vacations... to the 10:34 am poster, Who finished and redecorated the Duggars home? Was it neighbors or people from their church? Or did sponsors do the finshing and redecorating?

Anonymous said...

I do think the Duggers are strange. It bothers me that each older child is responsible for a younger child. It will be interesting to see if each child gets mom and dad's attention every day.
Will Michelle Duggar get a special spa day and get her hair cut? If she comes out with the Kate Gosslin spike that will be it for me.

Anonymous said...

So Mrs. Duggar was pleased by what "they" did for her home? So the Duggars got ouside help? I thought the Duggars were self-sufficient.

ThreeFarmers said...

I know that they did get help finishing their home when they were forced to leave their rental.
It looked as if the producers brought in workers and a decorator to finish the property. Michelle didn't know how the finished place would look, yet she was nothing but gracious and thankful for the help they received. There were tons of workers around that place and if there had been some off-camera shenanigans, we certainly would have heard of it by now.

As far as being self-sufficient, it's not like they ever claimed to make everything themselves. I know they would shop at what appeared to be a discount store for food (it looked like an Aldi's to me). And they showed the family shopping for used items at the thrift store.

As far as I know, the Duggars live debt-free. All of their vehicles appear to be used and the only thing that ever seems to match are their red outfits when they go out as a group.

I will be curious to see if having the series will make notable changes to their lifestyle.

Anonymous said...

I keep reading that Michelle Duggar got a make over. Can anyone post a link to a photo of the new maker over? Did she get rid of her mullet?

anonmom@switched.com said...

Three farmers....

Why the disdain for the infertile? Why should women not be allowed to have fertility drugs if they are needed???? I am just curious if there is widespread hate for the infertile?!? Kate Gosselin is not the only woman alive who has used fertility drugs, and most of us did not end up with sextuplets...or our own television show. The blanket statements make me sad.

I am glad that Michelle Duggar was blessed with 18 children, but just because she was blessed with uber fertility does not mean that she should be held above those of us who needed a little help! I hope Kate Gosselin has not given those of us who have been in the trenches of infertility a bad name. I would not wish the infertility game on my worst enemy. It sucks, and it's a long hard road.

Anonymous said...

From previous shows and their website, don't you think the Duggars see this show as an opportunity to "Spread the Gospel" and share their religious beliefs? A lot of conservative Christian churches focus on evangelism and I have a strong suspicion that the Duggars see this as a missions opportunity rather than one for personal fame. (I say this as a person whose entire extended family lives in a very similar lifestyle and religion to the Duggars). This TV show gives them a place to share their values and be a "light in the world" to show the "right" way to be.

FIf one episode happens to give Michelle a different hairstyle, that would be welcome! Her 80s curled wing bangs need to go.

mlou said...

I have always been a fan of the Duggers. I personally have no problem with homeschooling or their religion. They all seem to be very nice and grateful for everyone and everything they have.

The only thing I have ever had a problem with is the buddy system. I'm not saying there is anything wrong with chores, but as an oldest child it bugs me when the parents think it is the older siblings responsibility to raise their children.

With all that being said, I was disappointed when I learned that they would be having an ongoing series. I just thought this was a road that they would never take.
Hopefully, they will not have as many episodes a season and let their children have more freedoms than the G kids. Only time will tell.

ThreeFarmers said...

Three farmers....

Why the disdain for the infertile? Why should women not be allowed to have fertility drugs if they are needed???? I am just curious if there is widespread hate for the infertile?!? Kate Gosselin is not the only woman alive who has used fertility drugs, and most of us did not end up with sextuplets...or our own television show. The blanket statements make me sad.

I am glad that Michelle Duggar was blessed with 18 children, but just because she was blessed with uber fertility does not mean that she should be held above those of us who needed a little help! I hope Kate Gosselin has not given those of us who have been in the trenches of infertility a bad name. I would not wish the infertility game on my worst enemy. It sucks, and it's a long hard road.


I have no disdain for the infertile. I've never even mentioned the infertile despite the fact that I AM the infertile.

I have no other comment to this ridiculous accusation.

Anonymous said...

Why is this blog called DWOP? It ought to be 1001 reasons why the Duggars are better than the Gosselins.

Seriously, each family is very different. Just because you think the Gosselins (parents) are awful doesn't mean the Duggars are great. It just means that you don't care for Kon.

Personally, I don't care for how either family lives their lives. I think there is a lot more to the Duggars that we see. I think they are very savvy about their image and how they come across. I was pleased to see this blog come up as a place for an honest appraisal of the Duggars but after reading the posts I somehow doubt we'll see much of that.

MidnightSun said...

Someone posted that the mother got a makeover.

Is she not entitled to one? IMO, she deserves it! I don't think Michelle Duggar has a selfish bone in her body.

MidnightSun said...

So Mrs. Duggar was pleased by what "they" did for her home? So the Duggars got ouside help? I thought the Duggars were self-sufficient.

Discovery/TLC helped the Duggars put the finishing touches on their home (mostly decorating). The home that the Duggar family built mainly themselves (outside help was hired for some aspects of the contruction).

MidnightSun said...

I was pleased to see this blog come up as a place for an honest appraisal of the Duggars but after reading the posts I somehow doubt we'll see much of that.

I like the Duggars, but not everyone does, and for various reasons.

But, I am sure there will be endless Gosselin/Duggar comparisons, and IMO there is no comparing the two families.

I'd take the Duggars over the Gosselins any day.

anonmom@switched.com said...

I'm not the holiest cat in the litter box, but it would seem to me that if there was any family that was called on by God to have a swimming poolfull of children, it would be the Duggars. No fertility treatments. No health problems, that we know of. They seem genuinely endlessly grateful and humble without the massive glut of greed we see from the Gosselins.

This is what Three Farmers posted. Pardon me, but it seems like Mrs. Duggar is being held in higher esteem than Mrs. Gosselin because of the fertility issue.

I am sorry you are infertile, it's a horrible road.

DasMaedchen said...

I find this family SO creepy. I think even God would want them to stop having children. 18?? If they want that many, why don't they adopt some of the countless children who need a loving home and stable environment?? At least then I would have respect for them.

Anonymous said...

If the Duggars both have jobs and are able to afford a makeover for Michelle, then Michelle is entitled to a makeover. But if a sponsor from TLC gave Michelle makeover for "free," that means that the Duggars are like the Gosselins. Like the Gosselins, the Duggars gave TLC the right to intrude on their privacy in exchange for money and freebies.

Nadia said...

"Ok, Nadia. This was a JOKE. A. JOKE. I don't speculate at all about the Seveth Day Adventists because they rarely, if ever, cross my mind. In fact, my comment was more so directed to the Catholic Anti-Christ. It doesn't matter what faith you are, I think it would be pretty cool to live next to the anti-christ on Halloween."

: ) I am well aware that your comment was a joke but I just wanted to clear it up in case someone took some of it to be truth. Your story was really cute and if you were in my neighboorhood I would be sure to stop and look for your cool cat. I had two cats like that growing up, both all white and one with bright blue eyes and one with bright green. Coolest cats ever!

ThreeFarmers said...

ThreeFarmers said....I'm not the holiest cat in the litter box, but it would seem to me that if there was any family that was called on by God to have a swimming poolfull of children, it would be the Duggars. No fertility treatments. No health problems, that we know of. They seem genuinely endlessly grateful and humble without the massive glut of greed we see from the Gosselins.

anonmom said... Pardon me, but it seems like Mrs. Duggar is being held in higher esteem than Mrs. Gosselin because of the fertility issue.

I am sorry you are infertile, it's a horrible road.


Ok.

I said what I did because the Gosselins are always talking about them being called on by God. I don't buy it. I think the Gosselins hide behind the veil of Christianity in order to draw in legions of fans. I think they use the fact their fertility treatments went "horribly wrong" as some sort of calling. To me, that is using one's faith in the worst way, particularly since there has been some question about the ethics surrounding Kate's fertility treatments.

In that regard [Christianic (?), not uterian (also ?)], I believe Michelle Duggar to be sincere in her beliefs. I believe that she had every last one of those children because she WANTS every last one of those children. Kate Gosselin had every last one of those children because of fertility treatments gone "horribly wrong" (her words, not mine) and because she refused to selectively reduce. She has said that she would not have gone forward with the 2nd round of treatments had she known it was going to produce sextuplets.

Fertility treatments are an intensely personal issue and we are lucky to live in a time where such an option is available, however, I have serious issues about people who misuse them, and, in this case, spin the facts to appear as if it was God's plan.

I don't hold Michelle Duggar in higher regard than you (or anyone else having fertility issues, specifically), I hold Michelle Duggar in higher regard than Kate Gosselin.

ThreeFarmers said...

: ) I am well aware that your comment was a joke but I just wanted to clear it up in case someone took some of it to be truth. Your story was really cute and if you were in my neighboorhood I would be sure to stop and look for your cool cat. I had two cats like that growing up, both all white and one with bright blue eyes and one with bright green. Coolest cats ever!

And, for that I would give you one of the special popcorn balls I set aside for the children in my family. *winky* *winky*

cupcake tin said...

Hey Nadia, I'm that Catholic that started it all. I'm sorry about that. I do know SDAs who are lovely people, including my neighbors. My point was more about differing views being accepted because the Duggars are so seemingly extreme in their lifestyle.

My neighbors do think that the Catholic Church is evil, but they are kind to me. We've had discussions, but never heated. I believe they see us as "lost" rather than evil.

The Duggars get a lot of flack for their religious views, which I don't understand. The reason I don't get this is because my neighbors and I have such a great relationship. So if anyone can explain to me why you feel like homeschooling, procreating and raising your kids to really understand the responsibility of having a baby, please tell me. I actually thing the Duggars buddy system is a pretty good sex education tool!

anonmom@switched.com said...

Ok.

I said what I did because the Gosselins are always talking about them being called on by God. I don't buy it. I think the Gosselins hide behind the veil of Christianity in order to draw in legions of fans. I think they use the fact their fertility treatments went "horribly wrong" as some sort of calling. To me, that is using one's faith in the worst way, particularly since there has been some question about the ethics surrounding Kate's fertility treatments.

In that regard [Christianic (?), not uterian (also ?)], I believe Michelle Duggar to be sincere in her beliefs. I believe that she had every last one of those children because she WANTS every last one of those children. Kate Gosselin had every last one of those children because of fertility treatments gone "horribly wrong" (her words, not mine) and because she refused to selectively reduce. She has said that she would not have gone forward with the 2nd round of treatments had she known it was going to produce sextuplets.

Fertility treatments are an intensely personal issue and we are lucky to live in a time where such an option is available, however, I have serious issues about people who misuse them, and, in this case, spin the facts to appear as if it was God's plan.

I don't hold Michelle Duggar in higher regard than you (or anyone else having fertility issues, specifically), I hold Michelle Duggar in higher regard than Kate Gosselin.


Thank you for clearing that up. It *is* very personal, and it hurts when I hear something that appears to be negative against women who choose fertility treatments.

I used the same exact drugs as Kate Gosselin, but mine was obviously monitored more closely and it resulted in a twin pregnancy (I lost a twin, and in the end it resulted in a singleton). I went on to have sucessful susequent pregnancies. The sting of infertility is still there.

That said, I agree with you about the differences between the Gosselins and the Duggars. I do think that when Kate refers to the "fertility nightmare" she is talking about the way the medical community percieves a septuplet pregnancy. It's NEVER the intent of fertility medication to produce multiples, which is why IVF is so much more responsible. (Kate used a method which is most often the culprit in supertwin pregnancies, and is not IVF.)

I am looking forward to comparing the Duggars and the GOsselins. I admire Michelle Duggar very much, and I would like to get some tips from her and use them in raising my 5 children!

Nancy said...

"why don't they adopt..."

Why should they? What harm are they doing by NOT adopting? None. Perhaps they choose not to, or perhaps it's because few adoption agencies will place a child with a family who already has many biological kids.

I wonder how many episodes will be made. I BET the Duggar parents will not allow episodes to be filmed as frequently as the G's.

pastorsgurl said...

There is really no comparison between the D's and the G's. The D's seem like a nice family who just well, get pregnant the old fashioned way. I was raised Catholic and my Dad had 7 bros and sis's and his grandparents too. So have a quiverful. At least they aren't living and begging for help from the government nor do you see tons of product placement. I don't feel like their children are commodities. They are well loved, well behaved and not pushing their religion on anyone. They are who they are. Go Duggars I will watch them if it means no more Gosselins.

Anonymous said...

We're going to have to be careful with this one. While I feel there is NO comparison whatsoever between the Gosselin's and the Duggar's (except that both are doing reality shows), I do feel that the Duggar's extreme fundamentalist religion and their resulting world views are the disturbing factors. This, to me, is way more polarizing that their having a reality series. I do not think I could even contribute to the blog as honestly, everything I would write would be related to the bizarreness of their extreme fundamentalist views. So, this whole thing may morph into a blog about religion and not about reality TV and its effects on children. What do other people think?

Cass said...

"Quiverful" is not a religion, just a belief that you rely on God to decide how many children you will have.

You can be Christian, Jewish or any other religion and believe in the quiverful movement, it just so happens that many in the quiverful movement happen to be Christians of varying denominations.


There is no way on earth that you can be Jewish and "believe" in the Quiverful movement. Yes, Orthodox Jews do not believe in birth control, but that is where the similarity ends.

Please check out the Quiverful movement. They have rules about every moment of your life... including worshiping Christ, home schooling, and the subordination of women to men. They are also opposed to adoption, believing that the poor innocent kids are carrying their parents' sins. You may not associate with non-Quiverful people... etcetera, etcetera, etcetera...

You cannot possibly believe that the Quiverful movement is a nice pleasant little group.

ThreeFarmers said...

You may not associate with non-Quiverful people... etcetera, etcetera, etcetera...


If that's the case, the Duggars aren't strict adherers since they are knee deep in associations with TLC, Figure 8, and whomever else is involved with this program.

Nikki said...

From the specials I have seen, I do have some issues with the Duggars. Maybe it is because I am an atheist, maybe it is because I was raised in a very open-minded family, but it creeps me out that they all seem to be indoctrinated from the day they are born. They are not shown the other options in life in any way that makes them seem meaningful or viable.

It is not their religion that bothers me, nor their conviction. It is the home-schooling, the church-at-home, and the fact that with a parent-kid ration of 2:17, how can all of their emotional needs be meant?

I think it is wrong to teach a child that there is only one right way, when in fact, the right ways are almost limitless. Think of all the potential from which they might have been robbed.

Anonymous said...

If the Duggars both have jobs and are able to afford a makeover for Michelle, then Michelle is entitled to a makeover. But if a sponsor from TLC gave Michelle makeover for "free," that means that the Duggars are like the Gosselins. Like the Gosselins, the Duggars gave TLC the right to intrude on their privacy in exchange for money and freebies.
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No disrespect meant, but I'm amazed at the number of people who seem so adamantly against people receiving freebies. How many of us would honestly spit in someone's face instead of graciously accepting an offer for a free spa day in exchange for a camera recording it?

What about when hard-on-their luck women appear on Oprah and she gives them a car, or a makeover, or pays for their medical treatments? Are they as bad as the Gosselins for accepting? Is Oprah as bad as the Gosselins for offering?

What about a company having a "customer appreciation day" and holding a picnic and giving out free goods while also photographing the occasion? Would I be as bad as the Gosselins if I attended, enjoyed a free hotdog and gift bag, then appeared in a few photographs with a smile on my face?

I just don't think either the Duggars or the Gosselins should be criticized for *receiving* freebies. IMHO, the reason to criticize the Gosselins about freebies is because they beg for ones they don't need and because they're ungrateful. Michelle and Jim-Bob haven't begged for a single thing, and they've been nothing but grateful for everything others have been so generous as to give them.

To look at it in a different way, I don't think Michelle would ever use her own money to spoil herself with a makeover, because she's all about her family. My mom's the same way. You have to twist her arm to make her spend money on herself instead of her kids or grandkids. If a spa offered Michelle or my mom a makeover for free, however, that would be a different story.

mollybloom said...

Hello, Gentle Posters,

I don't want to see either the Gosselins or the Duggars on my TV. They are equally problematic in their own way. I like and watch some reality TV. Uh, that would be adults who can legally sign contacts about how and when their words and images can be used. Get your innocent kids out of my living room. Animals at a zoo get more protection. Oh, I'm upset!

Serena said...

No disrespect meant, but I'm amazed at the number of people who seem so adamantly against people receiving freebies.

The problem isn't the freebies. People like the Gosselins (and now the Duggars) who put their children to work in a serial Reality TV show are not receiving freebies. They are exchanging commodities: their children's privacy and dignity in exchange for goodies.

While I think the Duggar brand of extremist fundamentalism is riddled with problems, I really thought they had more integrity than that.

ThreeFarmers said...

Nikki said.... It is not their religion that bothers me, nor their conviction. It is the home-schooling, the church-at-home, and the fact that with a parent-kid ration of 2:17, how can all of their emotional needs be meant?

I think it is wrong to teach a child that there is only one right way, when in fact, the right ways are almost limitless. Think of all the potential from which they might have been robbed.


While I understand your concerns, I don't see that Duggars are all that different than any other family who raises their children to share their religious. Most of the families in the country do this. Even atheist or agnostic families typically raise their kids to share their beliefs.

I grew up in a Catholic family and went to a Catholic school were I had to go to Mass everyday before school. I sat through the Catholic Mass 6 days a week. SIX. And, I wasn't alone, all the kids in school did that.

As far as home schooling, those kids are required to adhere to State guidelines and testing. If they get behind, the State will know about it and step in. I recommend anyone with questions about the Duggars home schooling situation refer to this.

Your point about teaching children about there being only one right way to do things is well taken. That sort of guidance is quite limiting, not to mention, misleading. You're right. However, that's the way most parents teach their children. Actually, there are plenty of parents who are seriously lacking in the "teaching right from wrong" department. The truth is that we really don't know exactly what sort of ministering goes on in their home.

On the web site there are family photos of them doing all sorts of things...even attending a demolition derby. In the "Meet The Duggars" section, the older kids have goals that reach beyond the boundaries of what their somewhat limited childhood seems. I saw nurse, lawyer, beautician (can you say "haircut"), and chef. Those are the goals of both girls and boys.

I think it would be very difficult for anyone raising that may children to be able to meet all of their needs. But I don't see how that is any different from most of us who have two parent working with the children in school all day. Michelle has the benefit of being with their children all day every day. Jim Bob seems to have businesses going that allow him time to spend with his children.
There's also an enormous age gap among the children. The oldest is 20 and the youngest won't be here for another few months. The younger children all have a close bond with their older Buddy, which I think is a good thing. I know how important my older sister was in my upbringing, I was much closer to her than I ever was to my mother.

While I think the Duggar lifestyle would be difficult for most of us in many ways, I don't see that they are trying to limit the futures of their children. In fact, I think Jim Bob and Michelle try very hard to give them some experiences and let their kids know that they can do anything.

I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt, anyway.

Anonymous said...

"From previous shows and their website, don't you think the Duggars see this show as an opportunity to "Spread the Gospel" and share their religious beliefs?"

ABSOLUTELY. This is probably more dangerous- exploiting your kids to share the love of Jesus. This will be able to justify ANYTHING. I mean- you can't possibly be 'hurting' your kids if you are being a 'blessing', right?

Anonymous said...

I also attended Catholic school and went to mass six days a week. But, the whole school just went to mass every school day the month before Christmas and the month before Easter. I would have loved being home schooled. The main purpose of school is to watch children while the parents get things done during the day.

Anonymous said...

to the 5:57 pm poster, No one has ever given me anything. No one ever gave me a house or a car. No one ever gave me two washing machines and two dryers, or even one washing machine and one dryer.
No one ever gave me a free vacation. No one ever gave me medical care or dental care. I don't think it's entertaining watching people being given things on TV. I'd rather watch a sitcom. And, a business handing out free (cheap) goods is nothing compared to being given a house, car, washing machine, medical care or dental care.

cupcake tin said...

Hm, I have trouble with the contention that the Duggar parents are "indoctrinating" their children. Aren't all of us doing that by passing on our own morals and values?

Someday those kids are going to have a choice between accepting and rejecting their parents' teachings. They've been exposed to the outside world and know what they can choose or reject from it. Yes, they spend most of their time with like minded people, but honestly so do I. I spend a ton of time at our church doing volunteer work and play groups with my kids. Am I indoctrinating them? What about the fact that I send them to Catholic school? Indoctrination? They have the freedom to believe or not, even if I force them to attend mass while they live at home. It seems the same with the Duggars.

As for the exploitation of their kids, we shall see. I hope not, but I have seen zeal for "spreading the word" take ugly forms and cause harm as well.

Anonymous said...

In my opinion I feel both families are running a business. The main difference is that the Duggars are much more clever.

Jim Bob is a businessman and knows how to make everything they do serve a purpose.

I am curious to know if the commercial kitchen along with conducting church services in their large home, somehow met a requirement for being able to claim their house as a church and thus, pay no property taxes. I do not KNOW this. I am wondering.

I am wondering if their oldest son, who has always said he wants to work in video/TV production will work on the show.

I am very curious about other tax breaks and perks they have figured out.

I am somewhat annoyed at the constant bragging about living debt free. Don't get me wrong, I think it's great and a wonderful goal for anyone to set. I applaud that. I just don't think they should pretend like they did it all by themselves with the help of the Lord. They also had help from community members' donations, Sears, Home Depot, Campbells Soup, et. etc. I feel THIS will be the only area where we will see similarities with the two families.

Still, I think the Duggars are smarter and will know how to show gratitude and respect and thus, avoid that feeling so many of us got from Kate that "something just doesn't seem right here."

(Although I do get that a little bit from Jim Bob. I think he is a guy who knows how to figure all the angles.)

ThreeFarmers said...

The Duggars were debt free for several years. During their first special, they said they were living debt free. "Buy used, pocket the difference."

Josh, the oldest, plans to be a lawyer. He states on his website that tv production is his hobby.

I heard a news story the other day that the Duggars are trying to get their property zoned as a not-for-profit to get the tax brakes. Apparently, it's not unusual for them to have 100 people in that home for services. If that's the truth, more power to them.

I fully agree that with Jim Bob being a business man and a former Arkansas State Congressman, has far more business savvy than say... a Gosselin.

Anonymous said...

Just a note for the non-Catholics, lest you think the school children are attending a full hour or longer Mass every school day, weekday Mass is half as long or shorter depending on the priest and length of his homily. As the prior poster said, it's more normal to only attend mass every day during Advent or Lent.

Anonymous said...

The Duggar's personal property taxes in 2007 were $133 dollars for a 7,000 square foot house on 20 acres.

ThreeFarmers said...

Just a note for the non-Catholics, lest you think the school children are attending a full hour or longer Mass every school day, weekday Mass is half as long or shorter depending on the priest and length of his homily. As the prior poster said, it's more normal to only attend mass every day during Advent or Lent.

Granted, this was back in the 70s, but the Mass we attended daily was at least a full hour compete with the gospels, readings, and sermons. The only thing that made it shorter was communion because the church wasn't nearly as full as it was on Sunday so it went pretty quickly. Then after Mass, Father would keep us in the church in the pews for religion. We were in that church nearly two hours before walking over to the school.

Anonymous said...

Threefarmers, I've been to mass with the schoolchildren at two different parishes recently and they were both done in 15 to 20 minutes including epistle, Psalm, Gospel, and homily. Different priests, different generation.

Anonymous said...

I never had religion class in church after mass. As soon as mass was over, everyone left church and walked back to school.

mlou said...

RE:Homeschool

I am personally in the process of trying to start homeschooling my two children, ages 9 & 11. They have always been in public school and various sports and activities.

My husband works construction and travels. He is sometimes gone 4 months at a time. No, we are not crazy about this but it is how our family is provided for.

Homeschooling would allow us to travel with him. I would have my husband and my kids would have their father. I also want to teach my children our values and not have to worry about school shootings, bombings, etc.

I know I cannot protect my kids 100% of the time, but let's face it public schools are not what they used to be.

Homeschooling is not for everyone.
However, the Duggars and other families seem to make it work.
I know I have been babbling but I had to express my opinion on what seems to be one of the more controversial topics.

Anonymous said...

The problem that I see with homeschool in that household is that there are so many children at so many different learning levels. I don't see how they could possibly be on par with their same-aged peers. I remember seeing in one of the specials the older children were teaching the younger children. It is bad enough they are getting homeshooled by someone with only a high school education, but is definitely not helpful to have the buddy system used in this situation.

Anonymous said...

Michelle and JimBob both work. She is very soft spoken. They are very sweet to the public imho. I can't imagine Michelle refusing an email or saying "i'm not her today". We all practice some sort of religion or not and it becomes our way of life. So why wouldn't they include that as who they are. I'm watching because it's so interesting. She posts her recipes on her site too.. She isn't selling a "book". I've actually made the icecream pie and the crockpot lasagna. OMgosh, it was perfect and delicious. I highly highly recommend the icecream pie.

Anonymous said...

I homeschool my three children and would love to be as organized, patient and kind as Michelle Duggar. Since we can finish our work by lunchtime, my kids are actually out in the world doing things that their schooled peers are not! My 7-year-old attends science lab classes at the Audubon center with weekly habitat explorations at the beach, salt marshes, etc. How many kids her age are doing that? I am guessing the Duggar kids are the same way. They are free to be out there exploring and understanding their world. If I could go back in time, I would want to be more like Michelle and less like me.

Anonymous said...

Does anyone know if you get money or a tax deduction, perhaps for supplies and books for homeschooling in Arkansas?

I'm not making a judgement about it. Just asking. I know nothing about home schooling.

Anonymous said...

"Michelle and JimBob both work". Therein lies the rub. I think that is why many people have a higher opinion of the Duggars than the Gosselins. Jim Bob has proven that he is a worker (former congressman, business man, clergy etc...). Where as with JG, he admitted that he really had no motivation to work in the past. And given the opportunity he quit his job to devote his time to a TV show (not his family).

Anonymous said...

No, you do not get any tax credits or anything for homeschooling, but we do still have to pay taxes to support the schools. So really, it's a benefit to public schools when kids homeschool because they get the money, but don't have to teach the kids! And we like it that way - homeschoolers don't want the government involved in educating our kids, and if we got tax credits that would involve them somewhat. The cost of homeschooling is borne by the families who choose this route.

Anonymous said...

I guess I should have seen the signs. Michelle getting a makeover... I am looking forward to this new series. I love being a fly on the wall, so to speak. I'm surprised that they are doing this as they are so protective of their lifestyle. I wonder how the fame will affect the children.

a said...

Is this the family who has their own church and holds "fund raisers" for their church? If so, I have a real issue with them and would like to share my opinion, but will refrain until I have further information.

MidnightSun said...

Is this the family who has their own church and holds "fund raisers" for their church?

You must be thinking of the Arndt family, who was featured on TLC's "Kids by the Dozen".

MidnightSun said...

I really thought they had more integrity than that.

I agree - I was very (very) surprised to learn of the Duggar's new series. But, I am taking a wait-and-see attitude about it.

I don't want to make any judgements until I actually see the show, and what it's really, or seems to be, about.

Ella girl said...

i agree with the above poster who said that Michelle would never consider getting a makeover with her own money. Bet ya anything her family had to push her out the door just to accept a free makeover.

i'm a bit worried about the show: i never would have expected the Duggars to have a series. However, i think they will be able to handle it much better than the G's.

The G's are such a young family, and a great deal more susceptible to the nudgings of TLC. The Duggars stand a much better chance of staying exactly the way they are, instead of becoming puppets of Figure 8. They are so well-established in their methods and ideas, that i think being in the public eye (where they have already been some with JB being involved in politics) will not affect them nearly as negatively as it has the G's.

Also, about homeschooling, i was homeschooled my whole life, (i'm now 23) and thanks to not doing hours of busy work in public school every day, i had the time to participate in 6 musical ensembles, and now make a very cushy $40+/hour being a church pianist and even more being a wedding musician. i wasn't the typical dress-wearing, Gothard homeschooler, however i don't necessarily have anything against those types. It certainly seems to work for the Duggars. Every family is different. i know, for instance, i won't homeschool my kids, because i'm not a good or patient enough teacher, the way my mom was or Michelle is.

It's a bit sad that everyone will automatically be more critical of The Duggars after the debacle that is J+K. Seems like pretty bad timing, considering there is a much better chance the money the Duggars make stands a chance of actually making it to their kids.

Ella girl said...

Also, i would love to see them name the next child something like Tina or Max. That would make my year!

mlou said...

a said...
"Is this the family who has their own church and holds "fund raisers" for their church? If so, I have a real issue with them and would like to share my opinion, but will refrain until I have further information."

I believe you are thinking of the Arndts. I saw the special last night where they had the softball classic.

I can't remember the name of the church, but it may also be an outreach program, I honestly don't know. As far as I know, the Duggars have never had fund raisers for their church, I could be wrong.

Anonymous said...

Someone says Michelle works? Do you mean an 'outside the home' paying job? If so, what does she do? I can't recall her ever leaving the home to go to work.

Anonymous said...

I don't have one problem with any family getting "freebies" as a perk of doing their TV shows. Good for them!

I DO, however have a problem with any family that LIES on their show about "saving up" to do or buy something that was a product placement or an expense covered by the show. Likewise, I am annoyed if they get special handouts, donations or gifts from indviduals or corporations that are wrongly led to believe the family is suffering financially.

I'm saying IF they are misleading the do-gooders.

Brooklyn said...

I may have been reading wrong, but I thought it said that some posters are waiting to see if Michelle gets a makeover? I read it as though she has not gotten a makeover, but as a warning sign of becoming another Kate. You know, like, we know it's going down hill when she gets a new hairdo...(?)

I have to admit, I was a bit shocked that the Duggars agreed to do the show. I have followed all of their specials and am excited to watch the show! Also, when my husband and I found out about the Duggar show, we wondered if this wasn't a way to phase out Kon. It kind of makes sense, to me at least.

We are infertile (actually, it's me, but my husband says 'we'. I think he does that so he can own some of the heartache as well, rather than laying that piece of luck solely at my feet.) and we look to the Duggars as inspiration for our growing foster family. I feel that they treat each child with love and respect, which is something that I strive to do on a day to day basis. I am a positive person, so to see Michelle react with such a positive attitude all of the time is reassuring to me. I can relate to that attitude.

I know this seems jumbled, but it is my first post EVER! So, I'm swimming in deep water here... lol

Anonymous said...

I would say that Michelle works harder than any of us, outside the home or not!

Anonymous said...

would say that Michelle works harder than any of us, outside the home or not!

Her older children, especially the girls, do much of the work that a parent would do.

The Martin's said...

Anonymous said...
Sounds like some exploitation of children is okay in a reality show - as long as the viewers like Mom or the family values.

9/14/2008 11:14 PM

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That is the vibe I am getting too !! But wait until they start getting some free stuff or one of the kids throws a fit on TV !!!
Then they will be pimping their kids out !!

Nancy said...

Michelle, as far as I know, still has a current real estate license. I do not know if she is actively involved in real estate sales at ths time. Their religious beliefs are that it is fine for married women to work as long as it benefits the family, preferably a work-from-home job. I am familiar with this type of belief, as many family members also believe this way. May I add that although I'm not sure about the Duggars, my family members believe that although the husband is the head of the family, the wife is the boss of the home..... if that makes sense!


Michelle has recently been seen with her hair combed differently. I don't believe she had a "makeover".

I have heard from those who know them that JimBob is a big "teddy bear" concerning his daughters.

ThreeFarmers said...

Anonymous said...
Sounds like some exploitation of children is okay in a reality show - as long as the viewers like Mom or the family values.

9/14/2008 11:14 PM

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That is the vibe I am getting too !! But wait until they start getting some free stuff or one of the kids throws a fit on TV !!!
Then they will be pimping their kids out !!


We did see a Duggar throw a fit in the first special. I think Michelle and Jim Bob and some of the older kids were going to the grocery store and little James (he was about 2) couldn't go because it was nap time. He was sitting in the driveway in his little red polo shirt having a full-on hissy fit.

This isn't about liking Kate. I think the Duggars are exploiting their family, too. It will depend on what level they take it too and how much all the exposure changes them. And, in the case of the Gosselins, how many inconsistencies are noticed and how many lies are uncovered. If there are shenanigans happening, people will speak out, just like Julie, Jodi, scsun, and PennMommy.

I don't understand why liking Kate is an issue. Do I have to like Kate to notice that I'm seeing children running around in underwear? No. Do I have to like Kate to notice children in the shower? No. If Kate is behaving in an unlikeable way, that is HER fault, not the people who don't like her as a result of her words and actions.

If movie-goers dislike a movie, is it the fault of the viewers? No, it's the fault of the people who produced a horrible film. If you have a bad meal at a restaurant, it's not the customer's fault. It's the fault of the restaurant for serving crap on a plate.

Quit using Kate's likableness (or lack thereof) as an defense against the dumbass decisions the Gosselins make! All you're doing is trying to divert attention from the real issue.

Believe me, if Kate's unlikableness was the only problem the Gosselins have, they'd be LUCKY!

Anonymous said...

The first problem I see with all of these children being homeschooled is that being an early childhood educator I have seen from experience that many homeschooled children lack the social skills needed to function with their peers unless the parents make a genuine effort to help them build these skills with their peers (not with their siblings). Also with 17 children (though I know they are not all of schooling age) it is very difficult to make sure they are ALL getting the correct curriculum and schooling.

Also the mother of this family does not do the majority of the work in the home. The children each have their own "jurisdiction" or job that they do and each of the older girls are responsible for cooking meals and cleaning up afterward. ALSO each older child had a younger child as their "buddy" who they help with everything, so really in esssence the older children are raising the younger children not the parents.

I also find it a little odd that they built this huge new home, yet all of the girls are in one "dormitory" while the boys are all in their own also. Does it really seem appropriate for a 2 year old to be sharing a room with a 17 year old? IMHO No. And I know that I at 17 years old would have hated having no privacy and sharing a room with that many siblings.

Just my opinions and observations.

Anonymous said...

I believe I saw somebody saying something about how the Duggars would not publish a book in the way Jon and Kate have.... but if you go to there website they have done just that, is it due to be released mid-December.

Anonymous said...

Hopefully this show won't last long and will be taken off the air before it too takes over days of TLC with it's marathons. I know I won't be watching. They are too cultish for my liking.

Anonymous said...

I hope the show is canceled as soon as possible. The Duggars claim to be self-sufficient. But since they're going to have a TV show, they will be paid a lot of money... so they're NOT self-sufficient... the TV network will be paying their bills. If they were as self-suffiecient as they say they are, there wouldn't even be any specials. This will be a show about a family who gets money, free vacations and other freebies from a TV network and it's sponsors. I have no interest at all in watching a large family go on free vacations, or whatever else, the TV network is planning for the family.

notanavidduggarwatcher said...

Anon on 9/18 at 9:39 a.m. posted his/her concern about these children being home schooled and lacking social skills. Not a problem, anon. Because of the nature of their religion, no social skills are necessary. These kids will be married off to other "quiverfull" followers and will multiple like rabbits also. I watched their home building special like one would watch a train wreck. This weekly show will not be part of my line up. Far too creepy for me!

Anonymous said...

I think it's great that another 'unusual' family gets a show of their very own, courtesy of Figure 8. Just awesome for all those kids. I've stopped watching J&Kplus8 and I won't start watching the Duggar's new show.

18 children and not ONE is adopted? Talk about overpopulation in its most selfish form. Yes, children are a blessing, but I don't recall being taught in church that orphaned/abandoned/unwanted children are NOT blessings. To refuse adoption as a way to grow a family - especially if you claim to believe that children are blessings - is borderline cruel, but mostly it's ignorant. And that's why I have no pity or admiration for the Duggars.

Anonymous said...

The fact that the Duggars chose to have 18 bio children, and have not adopted even one child, makes them selfish. The Duggars don't care about unwanted children who need homes; the Duggars don't care about the harm that having 18 children will do to the environment; and the Duggars don't care about the harm that having 18 children will do to their own children. I would like it if the Duggar show is canceled before it starts. Instead, there can be a show about a family that adopts more than 20 children. There really are people that adopt more than 20 children.

Just Me said...

I still dont see how the Duggars are any better than Jon & Kate.... They're putting their kids on tv for the same reasons, Sure Kon tell a lot of lies and inconsistancies but they dont have Mady and Cara being mommy to the tups. THATS what I have a huge issue with. I dont care about the religion or the homeschooling, I have issues with babies raising babies! Its not fair that mommy keeps having babies for her older children to raise.

Nancy said...

To the "anonymouses" who think the Duggars should have adopted instead of having biological kids: WHY? They have no need to adopt because they have biological kids, LOTS of them, and no adoption agency in the world would consider letting them adopt kids with that many bio ones. I don't understand why anyone thinks it is "wrong" to have bio-kids.I would prefer to have them, myself. What is wrong with choosing NOT to adopt?

Anonymous said...

Watching both the Gosselins and the Duggars makes me feel happier and prouder than even to be a child-free-by-choice atheist.

Kittie said...

Hopefully this show won't last long and will be taken off the air before it too takes over days of TLC with it's marathons. I know I won't be watching. They are too cultish for my liking.

I second that..Only i feel like they are headed down the same road as J&K. Time will tell all.

Anonymous said...

WOW! I can not believe all of the Duggar criticism I am reading. I have watched each one of their specials and I enjoy the Duggar family. Every single thing they do or believe in may not be for me, however with that aside I actually admire them. My sister and I routinely comment how if we could just be more like "Michelle" our marriages and family life would run smoother! It is really sweet how she looks at Jim Bob while he is talking with a smile, and on the other hand it would be easier for me to be like Micelle if MY husband was more like Jim Bob!!! I know I am sounding a little silly but I know quite a few of you will understand what I am trying to say.

As far as the children are concerned, I see that they are well taken in all areas. They are clean, well fed, and when their responsibilities are all taken care of they get to run around and be kids. I have even argued that they probably spend more time with their 17 than most people do with their 2. I see them as completely selfless and family oriented. Who else do you know that would have put that indoor slde in the house or all the neat little nooks and crannys for the kids? Not most of the people I know. I also dont know a whole lot of women or men that would shop at the once a year half off sale at the local thrift store or grocery shop at the off brand grocery store to feed and clothe the family. THAT is self-sufficent. They are very wise with their money and extremely grateful when they do recieve a freebie.
Now the hair issue- I dont mind Michelles style. I can walk through my local Wal-Mart and find way worse. However, if thats the worst you have on her then I guess thats a good thing! OK I've rambled enough, it is someone elses turn.

mollybloom said...

I, for one, have no desire to be Michelle Duggar. I can't admire a woman because she keeps producing babies that she passes off to her older daughters to raise. There are real heros in this world, and Ma and Pa Duggar don't make my list. Nothing there for me.

dotsicle said...

I like this family and though I don't agree with their brand of religion, I like their values. As far as I know, only 10 shows are planned.... not 40 like the Gosselins. I doubt if the filming will cause much disruption in the household.

Kittie said...

Hey I think its on Monday the 29th @ 9pm. Right after J&K... Thats what my DVR says.

MomOfThree said...

I know that there are those out there who will disagree, but I am strongly against homeschooling one's own children. Except in situations of a child being chronically ill (or, perhaps in a case such as a poster above said about keeping the family together because her husband works away from home for months at a time), children need the experience of learning among their peers. Don't get me wrong, I feel parents should be very involved in their children's education, but parents who homeschool are not doing their children any favors in the long run. In fact, it is my feeling that insisting that the kids remain home all day with them is nothing more than a "control issue" or separation anxiety on the part of the parent. Children need to know what it is like to ride a school bus; go on a class trip; trade lunches with their classmates; participate in the school play. They need to experience being nervous before a spelling bee; finding the courage to stand up to a bully in the schoolyard and remembering at 8 o'clock at night that the big project is due tomorrow! Children need to rub elbows with people who are not necessarily like themselves. They need to realize that there are differences between themselves and others and that they need to respect those differences. (It is my strong belief that if all children were taught tolerance, acceptance, and respect of each other's differences, whatever they may be, then there would be no more Columbine's, etc.) I have been around kids that attend school and those that are homeschooled and I can tell you that the homeschooled kids are by far lacking in social skills. They may be quiet and well-behaved, but I think that this is only because now they are suddenly out of their familiar environment and are uncomfortable. They are not used to interacting with other kids and so have nothing to contribute to the group. This is not just one family of homeschoolers, but all 3 families I know. The kids do not know how to relate to other kids. People can debate the pro's and con's all they like, but I will never be convinced that homeschooling is beneficial.

P.S.--In the case of the Duggars, on their website Michelle says that the older children are responsible for helping their "buddy" (their assigned younger sibling) do their schoolwork. It seems to me that not Mom, but the siblings, are doing the homeschooling here. This is stated in the section where she answers a question about what their typical day is like...or at least, it was listed there the last time I checked. I can't seem to get onto their website at the moment.

mlou said...

"People can debate the pro's and con's all they like, but I will never be convinced that homeschooling is beneficial."

I do not agree with the Duggars' homeschooling situation, but not all families are like that.

You talk about people having tolerance yet you are close minded to the fact that for some families it is best. My kids have been in public school. My kids have been picked on for being smart, for standing up for what they believe.

You talk about Columbine, that is just one of many violent incidents. That is one of the main reasons I choose to homeschool. I actually enjoy my children and I want to teach them. I'm not saying that people who have their children in public school do not enjoy their children, but people who choose to homeschool are not freaks and should not be attacked.

westmemphisgirl said...

The Duggar's rock. I really appreciate the way they portray their family. They are a breath of fresh air compared to the G's

Anonymous said...

I LOVED the show last night! It should be called the opposite Gosselin show. They went to a big city interacted with normal people, even signed autographs, ate a couple huge pizzas they seem pretty normal to me. There was no private tour of anything, they did not shut down the subway for the family- yeah I guess you can say that I was impeessed- TLC you got one right.

Anonymous said...

I love the Duggars!

While I don't like that they are making money off the kids, like the G's are, I think the flip side is America needs to see what a functional, loving, decent, family looks like and hopefully learn a few things. People need to see that it is possible in this world to have a family that does not fight, slap, argue, criticize, and shun family members in order to function and get ahead. They are who they are and not trying to keep up with the Carsons ( oops, I mean Jones's ).

dotsicle said...

Good show, nice family, nobody was "exploited" or "abused", no child was shown in an inappropriate way, the kids weren't treated like a "herd", nobody asked for freebies, the kids were well-behaved and the parents were nice to each other. I notice that Johannah Duggar is their "free-spirited child" , but look at how Michelle handles Johannah's temper and how Kate handles Mady...
I liked the show and I like the Duggars.

Anonymous said...

I watched a brief clip from the Today show yesterday, showing the Duggars in Florida after the eldest son's wedding there this past weekend.

I was a little confused by mom Michelle Duggars answer when the anchor-host asked her why the Duggars would choose to do reality tv.

Mom Duggar's reply was something like this: "To encourage other families out there to have fun with their children".

I love my kids and we have a lot of fun together, most families do. But I would NEVER put them on reality television.

Anonymous said...

anon 9/30/2008 12:37 PM made reference to Michelle Duggar's comment about "encouraging other families out there to have fun with their children." Do you think it was a slightly snide remark about the G's? Maybe not, but if the shoe fits...hopefully the Duggars will only do 10 episodes as rumored.

Jim Bob and the boys looked as though they were having a wonderful time throwing leaves in Central Park. I wonder how long it would have taken Kate Gosselin to put an end to that?

KareninAZ said...

I couldn't agree more! Yes, there wasn't much drama, but I'd rather watch the Duggars doing things any day of the week then hear Kate shrieking at her husband and kids. Michelle and JB did take time with different kids at different points in the show and it just seems like they really care for their kids. Even though I'm sure they wanted to enjoy the city and their family, they took time to be friendly with the fans instead of pitching a fit. I love this show and hope it got great ratings! I agree with the above poster. TLC did get something right! More Duggars please! I'm intrigued to see what happens with Johanna's temper/spirit and how Jennifer is. I loved that JB called her Jenny in the hotel room.

Anonymous said...

Momof3,

I homeschool my kids, and I guarantee you they couldn't be picked out of a crowd! In our co-op, there is a Muslim family, 2 families with kids adopted from China, us (a biracial Vietnamese/American family), 2 white Christian families and a black family. You don't get more diverse than that! My kids are confident and have many friends, as they are in dance, gymnastics, soccer, etc. with all kinds of kids. So please don't paint us all with the same brush. You should read a great book, "The Social Benefits of Homeschooling" by Rachel Gathercole before you judge. There are reasons why Ivy League and top schools like Stanford now have offices specifically recruiting homeschooled kids! They adjust well to college and do better on the SAT by 87 points than their peers in public or private school. They get to be nervous before dance recitals, violin solos and soccer games, and homeschooled kids always win the national spelling bee (I'd guess they're nervous, too). I will never be convinced that putting my kids into a square room with the same kids every day being forced to learn everything at the same time at the same place is best for them. Give me free-range, outdoor, exciting kids to the cooped up ones any day.

Anonymous said...

I, too, home school my children, and have for the past 4 school years. They have absolutely no problems playing with peers, blending in - and I have no such problems with control.

The main reason we home school is because we are a military family, and move frequently. The consistency that I provide our children through homeschooling is invaluable. We have also been able to make sure that our children stay at grade level or above with their learning - which is more than I can say for their peers where we live now.

Children do not NEED to ride a bus, take their lunch in a lunch box, or attend school to be well-rounded children. School is an artificial environment, anyway. How many times have you been thrust into a room with 30 other people your own age - except for your school years?

Because I home school my children, they get to experience life as it really is. They interact with their siblings, friends, adults - not only children their own age. They also get to have more experiences that children in school don't get. We frequently go on field trips to enrich their learning, and I'm sure that we go on more field trips than most mainstream schools do.

Homeschooling is not an option for everyone, but for those who do home school, they should be able to do so without ridicule.

Anonymous said...

to: Anon 7:28pm:
You choose to homeschool and I do not ridicule you for that.

Please extend the same courtesy those of us who CHOOSE to educate our children in a public school.

You state that because you choose to homeschool, your children have more field-trip opportunities and that you are keeping them out of an "artificial environment".

Please remember that field-trips are not solely a school's responsibility. Parents are equally responsible.

Consequently, my 7-year-old goes to a highly-accredited public school, but in addition, we as her parents, have taken her to 4 Presidential Museums (Lincoln, Clinton, Eisehower, Truman), she has visited more art museums, archeology/anthropology/natural history museums than most adults we know. She has learned about maritime history in the lighthouse museums of Maine, collected fossils on the shores of Lakes Superior, Wisconsin, and Michigan. Our child is a straight-A student, has received all-school assembly behavior awards and done community service projects with girl scouts and our church. She's a 2nd grader reading at a 5th grade level. ALL WHILE ATTENDING PUBLIC SCHOOL.

You have a right to be proud of your homeschool environment.

I have a right to be proud of my child in a public school.

Neither is "better" than the other. Please don't think that public schools are depriving their students of anything. Nothing is further from the truth.

And no, my child does not "ride the bus or have her lunch in a lunchbox" and there are not 30 children in her class, there are 18 in the class.

Drop your stereotypes about public school and you just might find that others will drop their stereotypes about your choice to homeschool your children.

I could go on and on, but I hope you get my point.

Ruthe said...

"I love my kids and we have a lot of fun together, most families do. But I would NEVER put them on reality television."

Please help me to understand how any of these shows are referred to as 'reality' tv.

A tv special or two every year about the Duggars, Gosselins, Joebs or the Little People is plenty. Each show does not have to be on three times a day, seven days a week - and then there's the self-serving 'marathon'. What was the old saying? "Keep 'em wanting more."

It isn't reality to see who dances with a star, or who eats bugs in East Jabib, or who wants to work for two guys named Diddy and Donald.

That's no reality of mine.

Anonymous said...

On the issue of "homeschooling" versus "non-homeschooling"; there is an old saying that says, "When you've made your point, sit down". Both sides have made their point.

Anonymous said...

Momof3 said:
"Children need to know what it is like to ride a school bus; go on a class trip; trade lunches with their classmates; participate in the school play. They need to experience being nervous before a spelling bee; finding the courage to stand up to a bully in the schoolyard and remembering at 8 o'clock at night that the big project is due tomorrow! Children need to rub elbows with people who are not necessarily like themselves. They need to realize that there are differences between themselves and others and that they need to respect those differences"

I have to disagree. Why do they need to know how to ride a school bus? Does that prepare them for life? I do not ride a bus as an adult. Class trips happen with homeschoolers too, but they don't have to rush back to the school to be picked up by 3:15. Trading lunches is often not allowed in public school, and there is often no talking allowed during the lunch hour either, so much for socializing. Homeschoolers have opportunities to be in plays, band, football teams etc. Parents work together to form leagues, get their kids into real theatres, and co-ops. Did you not know that homeschoolers have won the national spelling bee many times? And saying that bullies are a POSITIVE thing? As an adult, I have never been beat up. But, we should aim to send out kids to a place where they will be bullied? okie dokie..

I think you have confused homeschooling with sheltering, which isn't correct. Homeschoolers are out and about. Talking to not only other children of different races, but also elderly people. Yes, children who are always with other children are able to make quick conversation, but I have found that they have a hard time talking to adults. Homeschoolers talk to adults all day long, so they tend to be more mature in their conversations.

Also, the Duggars have the olders help the youngers with their schoolwork for the benefit of both children. We all know that when you have to teach something, you really learn it. Having a struggling reader help a younger child with phonics is a way to strengthen their reading skills. I believe JB has mentioned that on the air before.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said, "you are confusing homeschooling with sheltering". What is sheltering? And whenever I think of the National Spelling Bee (not very often), I always remember this. Several years ago there was a winner, a girl named Rebecca or Rachel that was on one of the talk shows(Rosie O'Donnell, maybe). She had no social skills whatsoever...she was homeschooled and was probably smarter than an Ivy League scholar, but she couldn't keep the conversation going without the host leading her. Before I figured out who she was and what she was on T.V. for, I thought the program was about people who were mentally slow. I am not trying to be rude. I truly thought there was something wrong with her. Reading the post above just made me think of this.

Anonymous said...

To anon 10:43

I am the anon to whom you responded. I am a certified public school teacher who taught in government schools in 4 states (one of the Massachusetts, which has some of the best schools in the country) for 10 years before having kids, so I know all about them. My experiences led me to homeschool my own kids. There is some pretty scary stuff that goes on behind the scenes that parents don't see, and I hated the whole public school mentality.

I respect any parent's decision to make educational choices for their own children. But it only makes sense that kids are going to get a better education 1:1 (or in my case 3:1) than in a whole classroom. It sounds like you are rounding out what's missing in school for your daughter, but many parents don't. The Duggars are taking their kids on adventures all over the country, and I think they're great!