Big Family Meets Big Apple & Duggars Do New York (Sept. 30, 2008)

I think the first two episodes of the Duggar series were some of the most boring tv I have ever seen. We watched them walk, ride on a bus, ride on an airplane, wait for an airplane, eat, weigh luggage, drag luggage, remove and put on shoes, and SMILE. We watched Jim Bob try to hail a cab with a fistful of money -- that was truly embarrassing to watch. We also heard Jim Bob say that they weren't robbed or mugged because there were probably too many of them. What a doofus! How backward and simple can you be?

The New Yorkers weren't a lot brighter... especially the policewoman who jumped out of a police van and asked them if they were the "family from tv who had 20 kids or something."

Then the Duggars took a move from the Gosselins and gave out pictures! We can all be happy that they didn't ask for $20 for each picture.

Did anyone else notice that more "personal" pictures were taken with a "Duggar cam"? TV cameras were not allowed into their hotel rooms. This does not make a lot of sense, considering that tv cameras were present when Michelle had her 16th? 17th? babies.

QUESTION: Why didn't the Duggars do anything in New York besides seeing Central Park, the NBC studios, and Times Square? What about the Statue of Liberty? Ellis Island? The incredible FREE museums? I would guess that Bill Gothard doesn't think these places are important. "Can you say immigrants?" "Can you say Picasso?"

This series will not succeed or continue very long.

34 comments:

Anonymous said...

Selfish freaks. All the kids had "buddies" instead of parents, and one little tiny boy still managed to get lost at the airport.

They sounded and looked like something out of Deliverance while in NY. Go home and stay there.

Anonymous said...

Actually, on their Today Show interview back in May, they mentioned that they had visited some sort of factory and they had been to the Statue of Liberty.

I imagine they did not do many museums b/c of the nudity in so much of the art. Also, they are creationists, so they do not believe the Earth is any older than 7000 years, and most history museums will not agree with that.

I think the New Yorker who said 'Oh they're like 'Amish' or something' was not very smart. I had to laugh when one of the older girls said 'They must not know very much about Amish people then'.

My favorite part of the episode was when I think it was Jessa, was asked "What do you say to those who say your parents are overprotective?" She grinned and said "um, Get over it." LOL Good job!!

The Duggars are a nice family. The children are adorable, well behaved and not at all 'clone like' or 'robotic'. The older ones all seemed happy and excited when their mother announced her pregnancy (which is NOT her 18th pregnancy as someone commented on the Today show yesterday. It's her 16th, she's had 2 sets of twins), and the little ones didn't really seem to understand what she was saying, which is normal.

Their children are well cared for, loved and treated well. There is simply no comparision to Jon and Kate, that is for sure.

I saw their little 3 yr old Johanna shout NO a few times. One of those times, her mother took the time to *gently* correct her, speaking softly to her, telling her that was not the 'right way to talk' and what she could say instead. Picture Kate doing that? Not likely. :(

I've had the pleasure of meeting Mrs. Duggar. She is just as gracious, sweet and kind in 'real life' as she is on television, and the children are 'real' kids, who love to have fun, and play. (they were at an amusement park when I met them) They are very well behaved, but still act up sometimes, as evidenced by Johanna acting up last night.
Mrs. S

Anonymous said...

One more thing, even though the cameras were present during Michelle's deliveries, there was NOTHING shown. No body parts, nothing. You saw the baby after it was held up by the doctor, not coming out.

Mrs. S

iluveeyore said...

One more thing, even though the cameras were present during Michelle's deliveries, there was NOTHING shown. No body parts, nothing. You saw the baby after it was held up by the doctor, not coming out.

Big deal! They still had strangers and cameras in the room during one of the most intimate moments of their lives.

I know there are lots of tv shows nowadays where births are being shown, but that doesn't mean that these people, who profess to be highly conservative, need to televise these moments.

Gee -- do you think they got paid for that?

stick a fork in them said...

Mindnumbingly boring. Couldn't watch the whole show.

I just love the kids..... said...

I found it a bit boring myself. I don't like that the kids raise the younger ones and take care of the house. I mean, sure, they can hep around the house but when the mom said the two daughters knew more about the laundry room than her. Well that is pathetic. She has children,weans them and passes them on to another child to care for it. Then her and Jim Bob do it again!!
Not very fair to the kids. Any of them!!!

boosmom said...

It wasn't the most exciting thing I've ever seen on TV, but certainly not the worst. The very idea of navigating through NYC with all those people is astounding. I'd have been a frazzled mess.

As for why they didn't go to museums, etc., I suspect there just was not time to do all those things. I don't remember if they said how long they were in NYC, but it seemed to be only a few days. Trying to run around the city hitting all the attractions is crazy, and lots of those kids are still pretty young, so there are still naps. We also don't know how much was their time to do as they pleased and how much was arranged by TLC.

My only question was when poor little Jackson got lost going to the bathroom at the airport. Did they allow him to go by himself? He's very young. Of course, my whole family walked off and left my daughter at an amusement park this summer and it took a few minutes to realize she wasn't with us, so these things happen. :-)

Anonymous said...

Something is fishy about the way that kid got lost at the airport. What happened to the buddy system? And why was he clinging to one of his sisters instead of his mother? I'm not impressed.

Anonymous said...

Well, the "Good parents!" let a little boy go to the airport bathroom alone (or with a sibling that obviously couldn't keep track of him) and get lost. And then? Comforted by a sister, no mom in sight.

But the funniest moment was when they all had to "pair up", while mom and dad held each OTHERS hands!

Maybe I'd pop out a few dozen babies too if I only had to pass it off to a sibling.

boosmom said...

It sounded like Jackson took the moving sidewalk to the bathroom, and at the end just kept walking. Poor little thing. It's also not clear that they knew he was missing until the announcement was made. I'm not really faulting them for "losing" him - how many parents turn around or get distracted and the child is out of sight. It happens. My only concern is if they allowed him to go all by himself. That simply would not be safe for someone his age.

Dazzling Rose said...

So far, I'm giving this family the benefit of the doubt. They have 17 children - yes, it was their choice but I don't think there's anything wrong with it myself - and my mom, with only 2 children, lost my sister or I in a dept store a time or two. It's important to remember that all parents make mistakes. She's a sweet woman who seems to succeed with her huge family far better than I would, but she's not a superhero, she's not perfect.

I think it's a little silly to bash her for her children's chores and buddy systems. It's the only way their family works. I know that as my children get older I'll expect them to do certain chores and once they can handle those on their own it will be their job and they'll be much more familiar with it than I. If I have the 4 children I'd like to have, then I would expect the older siblings to help out watching their younger brothers/sisters. I was raised the same way and it made me feel closer to my younger siblings who I probably wouldn't have bonded with otherwise.

I'm still holding out judgement, but from what I've seen, I agree that this is shaping up to be a slightly boring series. Not much conflict to get worked up about in watching an apparently happy family. It just sounds like people are grasping at straws over what to be angry about in this instance, or maybe some Gosselin-transference is going on.

Anonymous said...

For all of you who complain that the Duggars use a buddy system and that the children do the housework, do you have any idea what it is like to be raised in a large family? Have you ever heard of teamwork? What's wrong with older kids minding younger kids? Plenty of families do that. It promotes family unity because the kids know they can rely on each other. And it doesn't mean that Mom and Dad are not involved. As for housework, if I had 17 kids in my house, most of whom were teens and preteens, you can bet they would all take turns doing laundry, cleaning, and cooking. Why shouldn't they? These are important life skills and family members should help each other and work as a team. You guys need to spend more time in the real world and less time criticizing people you don't know on blogs.

Anonymous said...

It would be nice if the Gosselins wouldn't be mentioned here. I don't know why that anger must spill out to a zillion other places.

I think these people are creepy. I find a lot of be critical about without "grasping at straws". It's funny that a child gets lost right off the bat. I guess their system works when they stay home all the time. Which is, yeah, all the time.

I wonder how much time they needed to spend in their prayer closets after the trip to sin-filled NYC?

A Mom said...

Answer: Perhaps the duggars in reality, don't have the camera following them everywhere.

And heck--Carrie Underwood when asked if she had seen any stars during Hollywood week on American Idol looked up and mentioned something about it being daytime.

Not everyone in the country is big city folk.

I haven't been to New York and I found the episodes to be very intriguing.

And for Michelle birthing her children, it was a "duggar cam" that did the actual taping each time I believe--and that is no different than Baby story which has been on the air for years.

Whether a mom opts to share it is up to her...

And like myself--all video is from a "sanitized" angle only--meaning..actual birthing from "that angle" is not filmed. No way--no how--or the camera gets chucked! That's my rule anyway.

A Mom said...

We saw Jackson AFTER the incident.

We don't know that Michelle did not comfort them.

My question is why did airport police get involved?

If you checked the background of when Jackson was being comforted by an older sibling, mom and dad were speaking with a police person.

The child also got lost at the end of the trip while they waited over 4 hours for a delayed flight.

Not "right off the bat".

Are you people watching the same show, b/c you aren't getting basic observations correct?

Anonymous said...

I guess that I must be an oddball. I kind of liked the show. It showed them to be more of a normal family than I'd expected.

Jim S said...

I guess they should be grateful they weren't in the Times Sqaure of the late 70's and early 80's when there were porn theatres on every block.

"Hey Mom...what's THAT?"

Although I don't agree with their politics or religion, seeing the kids allowed to run around the Central Park playground did my three sizes-too-small heart some good.

MidnightSun said...

It just sounds like people are grasping at straws over what to be angry about in this instance, or maybe some Gosselin-transference is going on.

I agree. I think people are going to try to equate the Duggars to the Gosselins, and IMO there is no comparison between the two families.

It would be nice if the Gosselins wouldn't be mentioned here. I don't know why that anger must spill out to a zillion other places.

It's kinda hard to do that, when the blog owners are the same, and many continue to compare the two families and try to paint the Duggars as selfish as the Gosselins, when that is not the case.

MidnightSun said...

My question is why did airport police get involved?

Jim Bob and Michelle probably panicked. I know I would have.

Anonymous said...

Are you people watching the same show, b/c you aren't getting basic observations correct?


The issue isn't so much that Jackson wasn't being comforted by his mom or dad or when he got lost. It's that he was, according to Jim Bob, coming back from the bathroom when he got lost. They let that child go to an airport bathroom alone or one of his siblings lost him. Either way, it doesn't look good. There is no good excuse. The only explanation I can think of is that one of Jackson's siblings lost him and for the sake of that child they didn't expose that horrific and potentially deadly mistake.

Sorry to bring up the Gosselins here, but if Jon and Kate lost one of their kids at the airport the blogs would be exploding with outrage. Nobody should get a free pass when it comes to protecting their children.

5monkeys said...

but if Jon and Kate lost one of their kids at the airport the blogs would be exploding with outrage.

That is because, at least from my observations, people love to pick on Kate and will find fault with ANYTHING she does.

I am not a fan of hers, don't get me wrong - but I have noticed that some people will just literally pick apart anything she (or Jon) does in order to make an issue out of it, when there doesn't need to be.

I don't know how Jackson got lost in the airport. My guess is his buddy got confused, and I am sure they felt awful about it.

A parent's #1 responsibility is to make sure their kids are safe....but, mistakes happen, and if it was J&K in that situation, I would say the same. You live and learn.

Kristyn said...

it had to be soon after that jackson was found that the girl was comforting him, because he was still having those little crying hic-cups. I do not agree at all with the buddy system. YOU chose to have 18 kids, NOT your children.

dotsicle said...

I am going to enjoy these Duggar shows. I wish there were more than 10 episodes in the contract, because I like this family .... but 10 shows aren't going to make a difference in the kids' lives the way that 40 episodes would.

I imagine Jackson's "buddy" got separated from him, but everything turned out ok. This kind of thing does happen every day. (There's gotta be something for the hater-dawgs to gnaw on.) Nobody was hurt, I imagine the guilty party got a good lecture, it looked like everything was handled rationally and quickly, but I guess some folks will dwell on this occurrence and beat it into the ground.
I'm anxious to see the episodes about "courtship". I expect to learn some things.

Anonymous said...

Sorry, but this is something that deserves to be dwelled on. Public restrooms in an airport, bus station, etc. are one of the most dangerous places for a child. What if Larry Craig was in there (kidding). Because of that, parents need to be especially vigilant in those circumstances.

As someone else said, if you choose to have 18 children you need to be prepared to take care of them. The Duggars really should have some hired help when they go on these types of trips to better ensure safety and so all the kids have a better chance to enjoy themselves. It's really not fair that the older children have constantly look after the younger ones.

Anonymous said...

So what if the series doesn't continue for too long?
I like the fact that they can handle such a family without screaming, hitting and lying.
So there!
I think they are doing a great job. If TLC wants to make a few programs highlighting them, fine.
If given the choice, I'd like to be a part of their family or a neighbor, as opposed to the OTHER family that TLC is so in love with!

Anonymous said...

QUESTION: Why didn't the Duggars do anything in New York besides seeing Central Park, the NBC studios, and Times Square? What about the Statue of Liberty? Ellis Island? The incredible FREE museums? I would guess that Bill Gothard doesn't think these places are important.
If they did go to those places instead, then someone would ask, "Why didnt they see Central Park, the NBC Studios and Times Square?'

Anonymous said...

Are you people watching the same show, b/c you aren't getting basic observations correct?

Some prefer to twist things a bit to raise controversy. The truth isnt quite as interesting.

Anonymous said...

Who the heck is Larry Craig?

Anonymous said...

Who the heck is Larry Craig?

He's a pervy senator who got caught by an undercover officer in an airport bathroom looking for some action. The officer was there because it's a fairly common problem in certain public restrooms.

It was all over the news a few months ago:
http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/08/28/craig.arrest/

Anonymous said...

The Dugger children are raising the Dugger children. That's okay with you guys? Really? How absurd.

DirtyDisher

Anonymous said...

The Dugger children are raising the Dugger children. That's okay with you guys? Really? How absurd.

Not OK at all.

A mom said...

"Nobody should get a free pass when it comes to protecting their children."

Who says anything about giving free passes.

I don't participate in the slam the Gosselins festival.

Losing children happens.

The daughter (not sure if she was the buddy) said that he kept riding the moving walkway and ended up at the other end.

I won't pretend to excuse the mistake--but without seeing where the bathroom was in relation to the gate and what not -- it is really hard to say how the mistake happened.

I would speak the same way about the Gosselins or any family except for one in national headlines right now where too much evidence eliminates leeway for benefit of the doubt.

I have lost a child--little kids under the best of circumstances just suddenly take wrong turns on accidents.

You act quickly, find them--correct the mistake by speaking to the child and whomever was involved (in this case the buddy system failure).


This isn't a free pass. It is just something that happens and doesn't deserve a snarky statement as posted earlier here about a child being lost "right off the bat".

Those who have never lost a child--kiss them. But by all means don't ever pretend that it could never happen.

The only problem I have with this family--it is the only one and b/c it is a HUGE problem of safety...I wish they'd get the babies in their car seats correctly. What I call the "chest plate" the little clippy that fastens the belts and can slide up or down to accomodate the height of the baby--it doesn't go on the tummy!

dotsicle said...

Oh heavens, the Car seats . I am so very glad mine were way past the size to need car seats when the current laws came into effect. I believe I would only have had one child if I'd had to mess with those seats every time I needed to go somewhere. Heck, I'm so countrified (and old) that I remember loading up the car with kids, to go to the store or movie or such, with kids sitting on kids and on the floor. Ahh, those were the days....... The poor Duggars and Gosselins with those stinkin' car seats!!

iluveeyore said...

Those "stinkin' car seats" SAVE LIVES every single day. You're glad you didn't have to use them with your children. Do you have grandchildren?

Yes, the seats are a PITA, but thank G-d they exist.