Tuesday,September 1, Star Spangled Duggars

The Duggars are in DC! Watch as they make their way around Washington, DC visiting landmarks, volunteering at Mariam's Kitchen, and even eating dinner at an Ethiopian restaurant.

30 minutes

63 comments:

MomOfThree said...

As much as I dislike that TLC is parading the Duggars around the country as if they were a circus act (and that the Duggars are allowing it), I do have to admit that at least the children are finally now getting the opportunity to see how other people live and work and eat and play. And that the world outside of their front door is not necessarily evil.

I truly hope that some of the kids are inspired to perhaps spread their wings and dream a little and maybe one day make their life and living outside of Arkansas and the limited way of thinking that seems to be the family philosophy. After all, as important as it is for a person to know how to cook, clean, do laundry, balance a check book, change a tire or a car's oil,it is equally important in the world to have...to name a few... doctors (as those who delivered Michelle's babies), airline pilots (such as those who fly the Duggars to NYC, El Salvador, San Fransisco) and lawyers (like those who negotiate television contracts).

A lot of posters on this site have commented how certain kids in this family seem to have the personalities to go far in this world (if only given the chance). Maybe they'll actually get that chance someday. And maybe Jim Bob and Michelle will see how really isolated they have become over the years and lighten up also. It will be interesting to see just where this family is in 20 years.

Anonymous said...

Back when TLC aired the wedding, Anna's bil posted a thread on this site. In it he mentioned that both he and Anna's sister had been raised and taught under the same ATI/Quiverful agenda and that after they were married, they kept many of the conservative views, but had abandoned the narrow worldview in which they had been raised. I believe that several of the kids will leave the confining mindset under which they have been raised once they get out from under the roof of their parents. It could be that several of the kids seem backward when they are answering questions about their lifestyle because they are already questioning it and don't know how to formulate a "safe" answer.

Anonymous said...

I do agree with the last poster in terms of being happy for the kids that they are getting out more. However, as a viewer, as selfish as this may be, I started watching the show because they were DIFFERENT from most other American families, and I liked to see how they went about their everyday lives and accomplished things at home. Isn't that the reason they got the show to begin with? I think TLC has lost sight of this. I don't know about everyone else, but I watched the Duggars not just because they are a family of multiples (I have found "Table for 12," for example, to be uninteresting), but because of their lifestyle. I can only speak for myself, but I'm not just interested in seeing a random family who happens to have more members than mine does go about and do everyday things like the rest of us. I love this family and their differences, and that's why I started watching the show. Has TLC already run out of interesting things to show us about the Duggars? I felt this same way about J&K, but we won't get into that other than to say that I originally fell in love with the show because I enjoyed seeing how Kate went about daily tasks, how she organized, how she got everything done, etc. I became completely disinterested once the family began going "hither, thither and yon" (to quote Kate) and stopped being a normal family. TLC needs to understand that we aren't just looking for random families to follow around - they need to have something different or interesting about them, and once TLC takes that away and tries to make them into something else, the show loses its appeal. I can watch anybody take vacations and do all of these things. I just want to see the Duggars be themselves. That's why I started watching the show to begin with.

Willow #1 said...

Anonymous 12:30 p.m. -- I totally agree with you. I hope TLC will listen to us and keep the Duggars as the Duggars. The Duggar trips have gone way over the top.

Anonymous said...

Surely they won't show the Duggars on any more trips for awhile since they were gone for over a month on this one!!!!!!!!!!!!

Also I think the older kids are probably quite used to seeing how other people live because it's not like they have never taken a trip before being on TLC.

SuzanneDeAZ said...

The kids traveled and saw many parts of the country long before TLC came along.

Oh My said...

Geez, Michelle's pregnant again. It's on the Today Show.

sueshe said...

Most current area to place a post about the Duggars having #19. I can not believe that this woman is going to have another child. I don't think she is totally with it.....What really bugs me the most, is that she breast feeds her young, but when I see the family together, it is always the older children taking care of the younger ones. I don't think that is right...but I guess in a big family that is the way they do it.
But.....At least they do it all together, and not have nannies and other helpers to take care of this very large family, unlike other families (cough, cough)....Gosselins, he he he

shelby said...

The official announcement is in! #19 is on the way...http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20301647,00.html

Tammy C said...

Oh my who was really hoping no more babies for the Duggars!

I think I am going to pray for twins just to get to baby 20 faster.Actually everyone just needs to pray for Michelle's health and the baby to be without any birth defects.

Rebecca said...

No discussion yet of the morning's announcement? No. 19 is on the way.

Anonymous said...

Well guess what. The Duggars are expecting again. I just watched the video on people.com.

Anonymous said...

They're on for number 19! I really enjoy this family but I thought number 18 might have been the last one since they are due to become grandparents soon. Guess not!

http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20301647,00.html

Sarah said...

Announcement of #19 on the way....

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/32630876/ns/today-parenting_and_family/

Anonymous said...

Not related to this topic, but can you imagine being 42 with an 8 month old and having 4 or 5 other children age 5 and under and being pregnant?

Hope all is well with this pregnancy for mom and baby. I just hope they don't keep having babies until something serious happens with either Michelle or the baby.

pumpkin said...

I just read on People.com (http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20301647,00.html?xid=rss-topheadlines) that Michelle and Jim Bob recently renewed their wedding vows.

I wonder if this was their idea or another TLC pageant production.

He does mention in the article that their first wedding was very simple, as they were very young and had no money to throw a big party, HOWEVER, the line about having the children witness their commitment to one another seemed like a direct quote from the Gosselin vow renewal... and we all know how well THAT turned out.

I keep praying that the Duggar family will retain their good values and not give in to the material world of freebies that seems to be the TLC way.

Does anybody have any knowledge of when this vow renewal episode will air? If it just happened recently, then I am betting on 2-3 months from now, based on the previous episodes.

Anonymous said...

The Duggars have already given in to the material world of TLC. If they had really wanted to protect their values, they would never have agreed to parade their family and erode their privacy on national television.

They have gotten free trips, household items and probably a lot of money, They dress more fashionably now (now more jumpers and floral frocks, and the boys also wear more "normal" clothes), and it doesn't look like they live in handmedowns or homemade clothes anymore, but clothes that cost more money.

I'd rather just see them being their regular selves, before they were bitten by the materialism bug. Seeing a family of 20 driving around in a bus isn't interesting, nor are 55 people sharing a single toilet (gross). If they are a family that cares so much about their Christian values, let's see them live them, and GET OFF TV!

Anonymous said...

Does anyone have the link to the video?

MomOfThree said...

SuzanneDeAZ said...

The kids traveled and saw many parts of the country long before TLC came along.

..................................Really? To where have they traveled long before TLC came along? Where did you hear this info?

TLC came along in 2004, with "Fourteen Children and Pregnant Again". That time it was Jackson who was the newborn du jour. They were still in their original three bedroom/two bath home and were (it appeared) to be really struggling to just get through the day.

SuzanneDeAZ said...

Before TLC came along the Duggars made a trip to D.C. That is common knowledge as on their web site there were pictures of them wearing the same color coded shirts while traveling. When they did the Mission episode they made it clear that it was NOT their first time as a family going there to give them a Christmas party. It seems that this is something they do each year for a number of years.

Just because they lived in a small house does not mean they were totally struggling. They believe that all you have must be paid in cash. So how many Americans would be living below their means if they waited to pay cash for their house? At the time they started with TLC they had their 20 acres of property and purchased the two steal frame homes. They also bought the things for the industrial kitchen and other items. When they moved in their home it appears that they got a lot of new things but if you read what Michelle and JB has shared that they went without many "nice" things in their other house to buy things for the new house and they bought them as they had the cash and stored them in one of their storage sheds. They had a mobil home and took trips to Texas for years to the homeschool conference way before TLC. When they take the Texas trip each year they visit places to and from their home state.

Randi Warhol said...

I noticed that many of the boys were wearing suits in D.C., but what about the girls? Do khaki or jean skirts and a polo top count as "dress" attire? I've never really seen the girls dressed up, besides the bridesmaid dresses at the wedding.

SuzanneDeAZ said...

I noted that the Duggars spent a day in DC serving the homeless. Not only did they make the meal and serve it but they bought the ingredients. Mrs. Duggar said that day was the most important day of the trip as it is very important to them to teach their children to serve others.

Anonymous said...

I don't like how this family rolls their eyes or makes faces at things that are unfamiliar to them. When they were in the Ethiopian restaurant they were being really, really rude, particularly JoyAnna, Josh, Anna, and some of the others.

Just because they aren't allowed to dance doesn't mean they have to roll their eyes at other people's culture or interests. They did the same thing when they went to the public school.

Anonymous said...

Oh no! I feel like because the Duggars are going to cities like D.C. and NYC they are encountering people who don't look like them. Which is a good thing. Unfortunately, just about every African-American person sounds/ looks so ignorant on camera. It's the same thing that happened in the New York episodes. I mean just about every homeless person was African-American. The woman yelling "Oh my G--" when they were going to get on the subway wasn't giving any better of an impression. I just hope that they do understand African-American or even African doesn't mean weird, soggy food and acting loud and "ghetto" though I doubt they would know to equate that word to a group of people. Sorry, I just had to rant. I'm African-American and at an Ivy League school. I want them to see that side too!

Anonymous said...

SuzanneDeAZ said...
They had a mobil home and took trips to Texas for years to the homeschool conference way before TLC. When they take the Texas trip each year they visit places to and from their home state.
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I guess I wouldn't count that as traveling and being exposed to different cultures, etc... If they take the same trip year after year, I'll bet they stop at the same old spots every time. Going from AR to TX would be as enlightening for them as my trips from MN to NE.

Anonymous said...
I don't like how this family rolls their eyes or makes faces at things that are unfamiliar to them. When they were in the Ethiopian restaurant they were being really, really rude, particularly JoyAnna, Josh, Anna, and some of the others.

Just because they aren't allowed to dance doesn't mean they have to roll their eyes at other people's culture or interests. They did the same thing when they went to the public school.

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That really irked me, too. Michelle can pay lip service to being gracious guests, but I wouldn't tolerate that behavior from my kids. I was raised that if you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all. That includes rolling they eyes or saying in front of the host that the food almost made me puke. If the food or dance isn't for you, then just sit there and be quiet. It's not like they will starve. I'm sure there is an apple or a cookie or something to eat once they get back to the hotel or bus.

I wonder if those sort of actions are a product of kids raising kids or TLC wanting something for the camera?

chocolatebee said...

As much as I like the Duggars, I think when they are put in situations where they are in contact with other cultures and races, the lack of exposure comes off as slightly rude and arrogant.While they seemed like they were making the best of the Ethiopian restaurant, some of their actions and facial expressions seemed smug. I expected the younger children to not know any better but even the older kids including Josh seemed not to have the proper etiquette to gracious express their likes and dislikes.They could have been more respectful towards the Ethiopian culture.By the way, whose idea was it anyhow to go there? I think they could benefit from a lesson in other cultures so that they won't seem so arrogant in future situations.

I thought the moment with Jessa and the guy on the subway was hilarious but there was something in Jessa's eyes that told me she liked being singled out. I guess when you spend so much time with your family and are never seen as an individual, any attention is fine!

I laughed at the subway issue. I am from a much larger city than D.C. and everytime I have visited there I find the subway system confusing. It is so hard to find a transit officer or anyone willing to help.I know how it is when I am downtown in my city and people are lost.You are always in a rush and usually dont stop to help.

All in all still a good episode

Liz said...

I give the Duggars a ton of credit. I am a NYC girl so I have been exposed to alot. I would have never went to an Ethiopian Restaurant. At least they tried it. Maybe the should not roll their eyes but they still gave it a shot. I like the Duggars. I was impressed that they went to a soup kitchen and helped out. I really feel that this is their suggestion and not TLC. You can tell they practice what they preach. Even Michelle told them to wait to let others off the train.I think they are good people.

Anonymous said...

Some of the family members were seriously rude during the dancing at the Ethiopian restaurant. I agree with the first poster who brought this up. I know about the Duggars and dancing, but come on. They shouldn't go out in public or pretend to be interested in other people's cultures if they're just going to look disgusted about it. Also, a couple of the little kids, and especially the boys during the interview, started imitating the dancers... I wonder how the family felt about this.

Anonymous said...

Completely agree with some of them being rude at the Ethiopian restaurant!! I think we can take that back to the Bible somewhere, about love others as you would yourself, and what you do unto to the least of these you do unto to me. Pretty sure that saying it was gross and you were about to barf is not showing the love of Christ.

Anonymous said...

Johanna was the only one who behaved appropriately at dinner. She contentedly sampled the food and enjoyed the music and dance. I hope she's able to hang on to openess, joy and excitement for diversity she embraced that evening.

The DC subway is not a mystery and there is always helpful staff available in center kiosk at the turnstiles. The only reason the world is mysterious and daunting to the Duggars is because they believe they know-it-all and don't ask for help when it's obvious they need it.

As for African-Americans, I loved the guy on the subway. He just shared space and made them nervous.

BTW, Marine 1 goes over the city often. In fact, for security, when it is in the air, there are two identical decoys that fly, too. All the helicopters fly in different directions and the President lands at different sites. If it's not the south lawn at the WH, he's motorcaded in in black suburbans, police escort and Secret Service at the ready.

Then again, soemtimes a couple of black suburbans turn up at a hamburger joint and Mr. or Mrs. Obama & the kids hop out to pick-up lunch for themselves and the staff. Sasha and Melia are really cool - just like their Mom and Dad. Mrs. Robinson (Michele's mother) is also super cool.

Anonymous said...

Surprised again at the variety of comments. My take on the episode was quite positive though the eye rolling and facial expressions at the Ethiopian restaurant just shows me many of the Duggar family lack the sophistication to not give away their feelings about something they consider so strange or horrid ( food, music, culture) that is. Otherwise quite a good show.

Anonymous said...

Oh, the Ethiopian restaurant was TOTALLY TLC's idea. No way would the Duggars chose to go there on their own. TLC wanted good TV - and they got good TV. I agree with the previous posts on wanting to see their daily life.

Ditto on the disrespectfulness of the majority of the family during dinner. I was really disappointed to see that. If it was just the little kids doing it, it would be natural and adorable - but for the older ones to act that way - it just looked ignorant and snobby.
Especially since the owner knew it was their first experience, I doubt he would give them (especially with all of those little ones) the uber-authentic entrees. (Unless of course, the TLC producers told them to - which I wouldn't put passed them.)

Besides, why didn't Michelle use that as a teaching exercise as well? Ethiopian's eat with their hands, but they tear off little pieces of that bread/wrap type thing to pick up their food. I think the kids could have had a lot of fun with that. PLUS, during the dancing - you could see that some of the little ones wanted to get up and boogy. It was only after the fact, after the parents and older kids were able to tell them how horrible dancing is - that they were making fun of it during the interviews.

Don't get me wrong - I love the Duggars - but I can see why the older ones are the way they are now.

Anonymous said...

I can't help but think TLC played a part in choosing the most polar opposite culture/food genre of what the Duggars are used to for pure entertainment value. Somehow I doubt that, of all of the restaurants in DC, Jim Bob and Michelle decided on this one. I can overlook the younger children's reactions, as most kids I know wouldn't be crazy about this type of food, but I was embarassed by the older kids' comments and facial expressions. While they did try to be positive at certain times, those comments were negated as soon as words such as "puke" and "gross" were thrown in the mix. I would think there would be even more self-awareness when saying these things on camera knowing full well that the owners of the restaurant would most likely watch this episode in the future. Shame on the Duggars for acting rude as a subsequent reaction to just being ignorant. I think if Michelle could see each child at all times, the kids wouldn't be able to get away with these comments...but with 18+ kids, behavior such as this will continue to occur under the radar.

Anonymous said...

I agree with a lot of the posters that they were very rude in the restaurant. Michelle made a point to remind them to be polite on the subway but never said anything when in the restaurant. I would have been very upset with my kids if they sat back judged and thought they were better then others.

Anonymous said...

I really enjoy watching the Duggars, and that's why I tune into their show every week (they come across as very kind and generally very tolerant), but every now and then they do something that seriously disturbs me... It's such an incongruity how the kids tend to behave so well and smile so much, but as soon as someone starts to dance, they all act like a deer caught in the headlights. Every one of those children frowns and squirms in their seat. I have no real concept of this, but I guess I can understand that they don't want to dance themselves because of however they feel about it in their faith, but that doesn't mean that they have to be so rude/unhappy/strange about other people doing it, do they?
Also, going along with the dancing thing... One thing happened in this episode that made it so clear that dancing comes completely naturally to human beings. One of the littlest girls (maybe Johanna?) was enjoying the music and the traditional dancing, and stood up in her seat and started to dance along. It was just a happy instinct inside of her. And although the camera didn't linger on this for very long, it did catch Michelle calmly correcting Johanna and making her stop dancing. It just seemed sort of sad to me that they would deliberately make a baby uncomfortable with something so innocent and joyous.
And then to have some of the boys in the interviews rolling their eyes and thrashing their heads around, as a means of mocking the dancing... It really creeped me out. I get that the family probably went to the Ethiopian restaurant as a point of interest for an episode (like, "Look! I wonder whaty crazy hijinks will ensue from a conservative white all-American family going into this wild foreign atmosphere!"), but it all just ended up coming across as racist and inappropriate. It was really disappointing to me, as I am otherwise a big fan of the show.

CappuccinoLife said...

Neat episode.

The Ethiopian restaurant visit bugged me. I married an Ethiopian, and I think the restaurant did itself a big disservice. It was cultural and tastebud overload. I've never met an Ethiopian who dines like that. The Duggars would have done better at a hole-in-the-wall type restaurant, with no incense, dancing, and more of the milder food.

Cute Johanna apparently loved it though! I do think it's sad that they seemed to lack their normal graciousness about the experience because it was "different".

Anonymous said...

To add to what other posters said, a few of the Duggars reaction and imitation of the Ethiopian dancing was rude (well actually some of them were rude the whole time).I don't doubt that they are Chrisitians and have solid values but some of them need a lesson in humility.They know what it is liked to be looked upon as different and strange because they don't follow mainstream society so they should act indifferent towards others.

I wonder do the Duggars still practice "nike"? A lot of those school and tour groups were filled with less than modestly dressed females.

Also has anyone else noticed how Josh always seems to care less about the activiites the family engages in? To me he always seems bothered or like he would rather be elsewhere.I wonder does he have a choice to opt out of some these family trips or are Josh and Anna under contract so they have to appear on some of these episodes?

Anonymous said...

Josh goes along on the family outings because TLC is his "gravy train". I doubt the used car lot is doing very well at the moment, and he gets paid per appearance, as does Anna. That is why we see way more of Josh than any of us (and even he) would like.

Joanna said...

I'm such a picky eater I certaintly wouldn't "choose" an Ethiopian restaunt. Since I don't find eating with fingers strange I didn't really take much notice of that.

My own beliefs and values are very simaluar to the Duggars. Many are almost identical. The biggest differences between us is that I wear pants (and shorts,) even to church, and I believe that the practice of birth control depends on the individaul couples and families. I'm certaintly not against birth control, but I also believe that no kind of birth control (expect abstanice of course) stands in the way when God wants us to concieve. Even if I get my tubes and if God wants me to have six more, then I'll have six more with tied tubes (althought I dought that will happen).

Definitly the biggest difference between me and the Duggars is on the issue of dance. I'm a worship dancer myself. I believe that dance is an experission of worship.

Anonymous said...

Here is the restaurant, if anyone is interested. I think it sounds delicious! www.dukemrestaurant.com

quadmom said...

Anonymous said...
To add to what other posters said, a few of the Duggars reaction and imitation of the Ethiopian dancing was rude (well actually some of them were rude the whole time).I don't doubt that they are Chrisitians and have solid values but some of them need a lesson in humility.They know what it is liked to be looked upon as different and strange because they don't follow mainstream society so they should act indifferent towards others.

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I don't think the kids imitating the dancing was rude at all. It was done in the interviewing portion of the show, back at home, and not in front of the dancers themselves. And I'm sure they were prompted by TLC to give an example. And it was mostly the younger kids imitating the dancing by bobbing theirs heads and what not and that seemed like a totally appropriate response from a child, expecially one who isn't allowed to practice dancing.

Anonymous said...

I'm surprised at the uproar over the kids at the restaurant. I'll have to watch this episode again, because I didn't notice any disrespectful behavior going on. I remember them looking not particularly thrilled with the food, but then again, so would I. And the young ones feeling ill from the incense - again not disrespectful. I remember remarking to my husband as we were watching it that I was impressed none of the children were whining or complaining, as many children would be, and I know mine would be inclined to think about doing. I'm sure that isn't the first time the owners of the restaurant have had people and young children look askance at their food, as it is unusual food for Americans.

I thought the little boys imitating the dancing during the interview were harmless and innocent. They were showing the interviewers some of the motions of the dancing, and they were actually spot-on. I know if it were my family, we would have been copying the dancing,(in a fun and good-natured way of course)for weeks afterward and having a good time with it, just like we imitate different styles of American dancing, laughing and having a good time.

Plus, any negative remarks about the food that I saw, were done during the interview portion, where Jill very tactfully explained that some of the food was strange to them.

I guess I just didn't see the disrespect that the other posters are talking about.

Swissmiss said...

I found the eye-rolling by some of the Duggar children disappointing; that includes the older kids who are old enough to know better. They should have done a better job of explaining in advance what would happen. Just because something is different doesn't mean you don't respect other cultures.

Or maybe choosing an exotic restaurant was the wrong choice for this family.

nccalgal said...

How many times do we privately roll our eyes at something that we consider strange or unappetizing? We just don't have cameras trained on us to capture us in the act. As someone who is very sensitive to strong smells, good or bad, I could sympathize with the ones who were getting headaches from the incense. As far as the comments the children made afterwards, I thought Jill was very diplomatic with her comments, and the little boys were just imitating what they saw. Since they were old enough to have gotten the "anti-dancing" lesson, their reactions seemed more like the giggles at seeing "forbidden" fruit. I'm sure if the Duggars had the choice of where they would eat, they would have chosen something more familiar. This was definitely TLC's call.

MomOfThree said...

Anonymous said...
Also, going along with the dancing thing... One thing happened in this episode that made it so clear that dancing comes completely naturally to human beings. One of the littlest girls (maybe Johanna?) was enjoying the music and the traditional dancing, and stood up in her seat and started to dance along. It was just a happy instinct inside of her. And although the camera didn't linger on this for very long, it did catch Michelle calmly correcting Johanna and making her stop dancing. It just seemed sort of sad to me that they would deliberately make a baby uncomfortable with something so innocent and joyous.

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I may agree and disagree with many of Michelle and Jim Bob's ways, but this is one part of the Duggar's philosophy that greatly OFFENDS me.

My 11 year old daughter has taken ballet lessons for two years. As a toddler and pre-schooler, she jumped and danced around to Disney Sing-Along videos, which are very modestly done. For Michelle and Jim Bob to suggest (and believe!) that a child, by acting this way, is creating lustful ideas in anyone's mind, is just plain disgusting.

I can only speak for myself, but as a parent, I take great offense that the Duggars think that allowing innocent childhood "dancing" ...formal training in ballet, tap, etc or just "moving" to the music...is in any way a form of seduction or leads a child to wanton adult behavior. There is a huge difference between Shirley Temple's tap routine and Gypsy Rose Lee's burlesque routine and, yes, while both are forms of dancing, to lump them both into the same category is ignorant. (That is like saying that every child who appears on a weekly TV show...reality or otherwise...is destined to become an adult with substance, legal and self-esteem problems.)

IMO, I would think that the older girls would have enjoyed watching Shirley Temple movies when they were younger and Johanna is the perfect age for them now. I wonder if any of the children have ever seen the "classic" old family and Disney movies (musicals) that most kids grew up on...The Sound of Music; The Wizard of Oz; Mary Poppins; Willy Wonka; etc? What a shame if they haven't.

I also can't help noticing that for parents who shun the television and media's influence on their family, Jim Bob and Michelle are sure letting TLC take control now. They have become celebrities. This family has probably BEEN on TV far more than they've ever actually spent watching it.

Jinger Rocks! said...

TLC should create a show featuring Johannah Duggar and Alexis Gosselin!

Anonymous said...

Mom of Three - I agree wholeheartedly! Although, Glinda had on a v-neck and Shirley showed her knees ..... if they watched those movies, it would cause those boys to lust after them! The horror!

Can you imagine explaining the no-dancing reasoning to a child? Its sick.
How about you explain to the boys that women are more than sexual objects and baby-makers, instead? Problem solved.

Its natural for a child to want to dance to music --- how many of us have seen infants move around to music?

OMG, I could go on and on. I love the Duggars and I think I try to block this part of their belief out ... because it really disgusts me.

Straight from the Hip said...

The Duggars are backwoods rubes who don't like venturing off their plot of land, but when forced to, are determined to take nothing away from the experience. They are so frightened of the secular world that they get no joy and have absolutely no interest in seeing how other people live, eat, go to school, play, etc. Their reactions in the restaurant were no different than how they reacted in their visit to the public school---pursed lips, eye rolling, the holier-than-thou attitude about the kids dancing. Anything that is different from the Duggar Philosophy is wrong, if not sinful. TLC, cut them loose! They are a waste of airtime!

cassandrau said...

Why Ethiopian? I realize TLC probably footed the bill, but my fiance and I were watching and just thought, "Why not try something a little more palatable?" I'm sure French or Greek food would have been more accepted by the children, and I know DC has great restaurants. Just why? I don't get it.

Dance All You Want ! said...

I can't wait for one of those Duggar girls to break loose from the pack and have a career.....her own job, her own apartment, her own DVD player stocked with classics such as "Dirty Dancing" !

imaamy said...

I actually love Ethiopian, only the veggie dishes, but my kids do not. We feed them first or go without them. I think it was to make the Duggars look like rubes.

Anonymous said...

Hey, so a whole lot has been made of this "no dancing" thing. Does anyone know for a fact that the Duggars categorically forbid all dancing? I have watched every episode and special ever made on the Duggars, have read their book, and have read every interview they've ever done. And I have never heard them address dancing, or say even one thing about it. Just wondering if anyone knows of a time specifically when the Duggars stated their beliefs about dancing?

lukebandit said...

when josh and anna got married, because of the no dance rule, anna's father missed out on the joy of dancing at his daughter's wedding and dancing the father/daughter dance. i agree with the lady that said her daughter had taken ballet for 2 years. i often thought about what about ballet? they wouldn't go to the ballet? what about jim bob? he will miss out on the father/daughter dance with his daughters! at the wedding reception, josh and anna's people were standing around in that bg area and nobody was dancing. it was strange. you don't have to dance to have lustful feelings. you could just be standing there. even the women that wear everything except to see out of, muslim women, they have to wear it because of lust. men can still lust after a woman even dressed like that.

Anonymous said...

They definitely forbid dancing. Jim Bob came down on one of the little boys for "dancing" in the shop where they were buying Michelle's layette. Michelle did not allow Jennifer or Johanna to dance at the Ethiopian restarant. The kids all rolled their eyes at the "dancing" of the public school kids, and would not get up and join them.

They definitely DO NOT dance, or even move to music.

So they won't dance because it is evil, but they will exploit their family on TV, and that's OK? To me, the priorities are pretty messed up.

MarylandMomOf3 said...

I don't think the Duggars have ever expressly said "we don't allow dancing" on the air or in their book. However, in the episode where they go to pick out a layette for Jordyn, one of the younger boys (Jackson, I think) hits the button on a John Deere toy at the store, and it starts playing music. He starts bopping around, and there's a scuffle to make him stop. One of the interviewers later asked one of the older girls "You don't allow dancing, right?" and she claimed that Jackson was "jumping for joy", not dancing. Also, Mr. Keller (Anna's dad) was pretty down on dancing when they were interviewing him on one of the wedding episodes. He said that it makes men lust after women.

Ancient of Days said...

If, when I was a kid, I'd acted in a restaurant the way the Duggar children did, my mother--who was born in Arkansas and spent her formative years there--would have told me not to act as though I'd been "born in a barn."

It's not about where the Duggars are from; they'd be inconsiderate rubes no matter where they'd grown up!

I'm disappointed in their behavior--the parents' and the children's--in the restaurant. Where, after all, was the milk of human kindness?

stopthemadness said...

MomofThree I couldn't agree more. This is one place where a reality show can be helpful to the kids who are otherwise cloistered like medieval nuns and prevented from seeing or being part of "the world."

I'm sure their trip will end up with the parents indoctrinating the kids on exactly what to think feel and believe about what they saw, in the context of the Bible as scientific text, however, this is a genie that is hard to put back in the bottle.

You can't keep em down on the farm...

Our need to keep them freakish so we can watch them something different from normal families is probably not the most important thing for these kids!

Anonymous said...

They did put one of those little cartoony blurbs on the screen during the public school episode, when all the students were dancing and the Duggars girls were sitting uncomfortably, that said something like, "As a rule, the Duggars do not dance." They then had a quick interview with Michelle where she said that she knew the school was probably having the kids dance to get their energy out before they had to sit for the assembly, and she said that she "uses other methods" to get her kids to calm down. So I guess that was how they formally acknowledged it?

Renee said...

Regarding how the children acted at the restaurant. It may have looked bad on television, but I have to ask the question. Does the family ever watch themselves on television?

octavia said...

Anonymous said...
And then to have some of the boys in the interviews rolling their eyes and thrashing their heads around, as a means of mocking the dancing... It really creeped me out. I get that the family probably went to the Ethiopian restaurant as a point of interest for an episode (like, "Look! I wonder what crazy hijinks will ensue from a conservative white all-American family going into this wild foreign atmosphere!"), but it all just ended up coming across as racist and inappropriate.

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Come on now, really. Racist? I agree that some of the kids acted inappropriately (especially the much older ones who should know better than to behave that way, like Josh and Anna) by rolling their eyes at the dancing and waving their hands in front of their noses at the incense, all with disgusted looks on their faces. But how does that equate to being racist? If they had gone to a German restaurant and had been presented with bratwurst and beer steins while their hosts danced around in Lederhosen, I assume their reaction to the different culture would have been the pretty much the same. Racism had nothing to do with it.

Anonymous said...

Huh. Well, I get that the Duggars are trying to protect their kids from "hedonistic" behavior, and it is true that some dancing is of the lustful variety. But, to go to great lengths to categorically forbid any and all dancing seems to make about as much sense as forbidding the reading of any and all books, since some books contain lustful content.

It just seems unreasonable and unneccessary. Some kinds of dancing are so pure and beautiful, how can it not be a good and worthwhile thing to enjoy?

Anonymous said...

I assumed they had gone to the Ethiopian restaurant as thy had been offered a free meal!

Alice said...

The restaurant was a terrible choice--poor family! Mainly for the food, but also because of the "entertainment" thrown in. If I understand correctly, the reason the dancing made them uncomfortable was because they have been taught to be more modest in their movements, "draw attention to the face," and not other parts of the body. I'll bet if they had seen a worship ballet, even though they don't practice such things, the reaction would have been more appreciative. If more families were reading and studying the Word of God, the things of this world would seem more alien to them too. As they should, to citizens of heaven...so I think the reaction of the kids was normal.