Tuesday, July 12, Duggars, Doctors, and Discipline

Michelle takes Josie to Little Rock for a checkup, but with Josie's recent hospitalization will they get the clean bill of health they are hoping for? Meanwhile, Jessa demonstrates the discipline needed to get the younger Duggars down for a nap.

30 minutes

30 comments:

CCCP said...

My 5 year old hasn't napped in years. Poor Johanna. Unbelievable.

If those don't get those stupid fake pigtails off of Josie soon, I'm going to scream. She has actual hair now. They could put a little (LITTLE!!) bow in there. What do they find so wrong with her head that they need to hide it?

ennvee said...

Poor Josie. Those fake pigtails were a mess by the end of that day at the doctor's. Leave them home for doctor's appoints for crying out loud!

I think this also give us more proof that Jana is indeed Josie's sister-mom and this was taped sometime during the spring, so it wasn't something that just popped up during the book tour when Jana just happened to always be pictured holding her.

"Yes ma'am" to your own sister? Okay, I know things are done differently in the South, but Hannie knows the difference between her sisters and other women to whom she would call "ma'am." I just found it odd.

Loved the College Minus gear. All they need now is a mascot and a distance-learning football team! :D

michelle said...

I felt Johanna's pain during the napping (or lack of it). I know some children that will sleep as soon as their heads hit the pillow but others will just not nod off. I don't ever remember being forced or told to nap at Johanna's age (in my kindergarten I only went half a day and so there were no naps at school). I wonder why the kids have to wait for age six to be exempt from nap time (I think Jessa told Johanna that she was still five and had to nap or something to that effect)

mom in texas said...

The exchange between Johannah and Jessa was cute. Johannah tried her best to negotiate her way out of a nap. However, this reminded me of just how much parenting the girls do. Jessa seemed more like a teen mom rather than a sister. I do not think that 5 is too old for a nap. Most kids this age still take naps in school.

It is really good to see Josie so healthy. I am glad to see her catch up physically and hopefully cognitively soon. I do not doubt that Michelle loves her children however there is just a different fascination with Josie. I am sure it has a lot to do with Josie being a preemie and the thought that she may have not made it. But there is always a chance of losing someone so there should always be that attachment. Michelle seems like a young girl with a new baby doll. I have never before witnessed this kind of attentiveness and closeness between Michelle and another one of the 19 kids. I also hate the pigtails. My goodness Josie is a beautiful baby with out them. She actually reminds me of Johannah more now.

hart&sole said...

Jessa probably has the younger kids answer 'yes ma'am' when she gives an order since she needs to let them know who is in charge. If I were rearing the little spitfire that is JoHanna she would be napping in the afternoon, too, besides they stay up late. Michelle took Jana along to take care of Josie in the car while she drove. Probably Jeremiah and James just wanted to go and they were helpful. I am so glad to see Josie doing so well after her shaky start in life.

msrylee said...

I think it is good that Josie is doing as well as she is. Just please get rid of the fake pig-tails!! She really is a cutie and doesn't need those ugly things.

It is evident just how much parenting the older blessings are responsible for with the little ones. Jessa really needed to let Johannah and the others know just who was the authority figure. What was the father of these blessings doing while Jessa was dealing with naptime? Why didn't he assume responsibility of the little ones? He stated that while Michelle took Josie for her appointment in Little Rock, he was taking care of the younger ones. It didn't appear that way to me. Again, this is reality television, and I know we don't see what actually happens in real life in the Duggar home. I didn't find it very interesting at all. In fact, I fastforwarded through most of the episode. We have seen too many scenes of Josie in the hospital, and the naptime struggles were just blah.

Sue H. said...

Johanna is still young enough for a nap at age 5...I remember having to take a nap at her age and didn't like it either, but with my mother and grandmother there were no negotiations!!

As for the "yes ma'am", this is teaching the children to respect others.

Thank goodness Josie had a great report from her appointment...and the fake ponytail/pigtail need to dissappear!!

rcadra2 said...

I'm glad Josie is doing so well, but I thought it was pathetic to see the older girls trapped in the house, while Jim Bob was outside babbling about how he's really not needed to help with the little ones.

I too have an 18 year old and a 5 year old (who is a handful just like Johannah). While it's good for my oldest to help out with the housework and babysit occasionally, I would NEVER unload my parenting responsibilities on her.

The Duggar teenaged daughters should be attending classes outside the home, chatting with friends on Facebook, or going on outings with friends.

I thought it was a sad sight that they were trying to study their College Minus curriculum while being harrassed by little ones.

My older daughte watched the show and said it was only a matter of time before they all escape out a window and elope or just take off.

Sharla said...

1.448 million viewers for the new episode while the following rerun received 1.204 million.

Digger said...

I was really happy to see an episode mostly about Josie. What a sweet baby. I loved her smiles and baby talk. Yes, Jana is Josie's "buddy" but Jinger is Johannah's buddy but Jessa was caring for Johannah in the episode. They all help each other out like a family should.

DianeD said...

Maybe if Johanna was put to nap in her own bed, instead of some random spot on the floor crowded next to a pile of instrument cases, there would have been success.

Cyn said...

"Yes ma'am" to your own sister? Okay, I know things are done differently in the South, but Hannie knows the difference between her sisters and other women to whom she would call "ma'am." I just found it odd.
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It IS a southern thing... My children were taught to say yes ma'am and yes sir to their siblings as a sign of respect, and to any person older than they are.

And when adults question them on the practice, they tell the adults "my momma taught me to give you respect by calling you ma'am or by your last name which would you prefer?" if the adults have an issue with being called "ma'am" or "sir".

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It is evident just how much parenting the older blessings are responsible for with the little ones. Jessa really needed to let Johannah and the others know just who was the authority figure.

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IF the older girls are the ones with that much responsibility why would she at age five still need to show Johannah who the authority figure was???

Digger said...

I don't think Johannah, Jennifer, Jordyn or Jackson have their own beds. Jackson sleeps on that fold out chair thingy, Jordyn a packnplay and who knows where Jenny and Hannie sleep. Get them beds Duggars!!!!

roddma said...

'It IS a southern thing... My children were taught to say yes ma'am and yes sir to their siblings as a sign of respect, and to any person older than they are."

I live in Tennessee and never heard anyone call their sibs ma'm and sir. Many of the brothers and sisters in my immediate family are quite a bit older than the younger and never call them ma'm and sir. Jessa is the sister not the parent. IMO it places the sib relationship in an awkward position. The younger ones will see them as authority figures instead of sisters. there are other expressions of courtesy.

msrylee said...

I wondered why some of the little blessings were laying on the floor for their naptime? If they have beds, put them there, and if they don't have beds, buy them. Or do the older sister-moms double up with the littlest ones?

Cyn said...

I live in Tennessee and never heard anyone call their sibs ma'm and sir. Many of the brothers and sisters in my immediate family are quite a bit older than the younger and never call them ma'm and sir. Jessa is the sister not the parent. IMO it places the sib relationship in an awkward position. The younger ones will see them as authority figures instead of sisters. there are other expressions of courtesy.
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Howdy neighbor...
Guess it depends on which end of TN you grew up in, and whether it was the rural mountain area, or the lower valley city life.

Having grown up with a mix of both I have watched it become a dying concept... where the adults teach the children to be polite to their elders, open doors for people, say yes ma'am, yes sir. Address adults by their last names prefaced with Mr or Ms. Hold a chair for the ladies as they sit down, etc.

In a day and age where talking back in an ill manner towards their teachers, or other adults. The yes sir, yes ma'am crowd stand head and shoulders above the rest.


PS yes ma'am or yes sir... are the responses they are to use when told to do something, it shows you heard the person, understood the person, are acknowledging their authortity over you, and that you are willing to do it. No ma'am and no sir, simply means that they heard what you said, and are NOT willing to do it, or can not do it, while still acknowledging the fact that while they have authority over you, you are your own free person and CAN say no.

Celestie said...

It was good to see little Josie progressing so well. She seems to have a very vibrant personality. Don't know why Michelle has to wait to see what her personality will be. She is also very cute. Probably would be cuter without the hair extensions.

Now about Jordyn. OK, she is out in the cold weather barefoot and steps in the mud. Jim Bob notes she is in the mud, but he decides to take a phone call instead of attending to her. Jordyn goes in house and tracks the mud across the floors. Then she cries. She is on phone with mother, who seems to shine her on about being a drama girl. Did it not occur to anyone that her feet might be cold and uncomfortable? Jordyn continues her trot about the kitchen. No one picks her up and cleans off her feet and puts warm socks on her. Again the poor thing is totally neglected and has made a mess of the floors. Guess it never occurred to Jim Bob to pick her up and wash off her feet, thus comforting her, and helping to avoid the sister moms doing an additional chore of cleaning the floor.
When Michelle and Jim Bob were talking about Jordyn it sounded like they didn't even like her. The best thing they could say is she is growing.

roddma said...

I believe in politeness and respect to authority figures myself, opening doors for others etc. That goes for family too. However siblings are just that-siblings. It is one reason why working for siblings or any family is diffucult. I will say this again. Parents should be parents and siblings should be siblings. Brothers and sisters can be polite with one another without saying ma'm.

Krissy said...

I'm usually a harsh critic of the Duggars, but I didn't find anything wrong with Jessa solicting a "yes ma'am" from Hannie. I think she was trying to teach her to be respectful to those in authority, whether it's a sister, Mom or another adult.

As far as the napping, Hannie might have been hyper because the cameras were there, but Jessa even said that she usually falls asleep despite claiming she's not tired, so maybe she does need them even at her age.

oklahomamommy said...

I would normally say that 5 is way to old to be napping, but if I was raising my little sister for my capable but unwilling parents I'd make her nap too.

msrylee said...

I agree that most five year olds don't require a nap, but perhaps this enforced rest period for the youngest blessings is one of the only breaks their sister/mommies get all day. As was stated earlier, these eldest blessings are rearing their sibs for the most part. And again, I know this is reality television, and we really don't know the 'reality' of life in the Duggar home.

Dar said...

Poor Jessa . A lovely young girl trying to further her education while attempting to get her younger siblings to go for a nap. These girls should be out enjoying life. It boggles the mind. All that youth and energy being used assuming the responsibility for their parent's children. One can hope that one of them will escape and fulfill their destinies.The younger children who are of age should be going to school. I really feel bad for Jordyn. She has to be the most ignored child in that family. Michelle on the phone with Jim Bob, talking about Josie,while poor little Jordyn has mud on her feet and no one doing anything about it. Of course, the parents of these children had to have their usual kiss over the phone, like two immature teenagers. Michelle looks pregnant. I wouldn't be surprised if there was an announcement soon. The fun never stops!

msrylee said...

On the morning of Josie's medical appointment, Michelle said she was under the weather, not feeling well. She was asked if she was pregnant and she denied it. Two of the eldest young women (sorry I can't remember who they were) were also asked if their mom could be pregnant, and they denied it as well. Time will tell whether there is another blessing on the way.

acornlover said...

I remember in one of the episodes one of the girls explaining the use of "yes ma'am , yes sir, my pleasure" as part of their lifestyle. Also as the parent of a clone of Miss Johanna , a nap during the day at 5 years old kept my daughter from going into stimulus overload and consequently the avoiding the late day meltdown from which there was no return!

Religilicious said...

JMO, the Duggar 'lifestyle' that requires grown daughters to spend their time as sister-mommies RATHER than pursuing further education or at least technical/trades skills contributes to the dumbing down of America, which is becoming more and more obvious.

I wish the Duggars and their believers valued academics. The Gothard-style home school followed by years living under parental control even into adulthood with little further education is just such a waste of potential.

If the Duggar home schooling was up to par, all this extra "College Plus" hand holding would be entirely unnecessary.

Sad that the parents so limit their children's socialization, emotional growth, and, of course, real education.

KYLady said...

My children didn't have to take a nap at 5 but they did have what I called quiet time. They had to either take a nap or read or look at a book silently for 30 minutes. Most days they fell asleep and napped for almost two hours.

I think all toddlers and preschoolers need some type of down in the afternoon to keep them from having a total meltdown in the evenings. JMO

Dar said...

Josie is a beautiful child. She looks very happy. It is most unfortunate that this little girl who struggled sooo hard to survive, tubes and needles all over her body, weighing so very little at birth has nothing to look forward to but producing children and paying homage to some pimply-faced boy. I am not denigrating childbirth, but women have so much more to offer.

Maybe by the time she is of age, there will be some enlightenment in the Duggar home and she will be encouraged to be all that she can. She is a "Miracle" baby and one can't help but believe that she is meant for a great future if she is allowed.

msrylee said...

All the Duggar blessings should be given the opportunity to be all that they can be. IMO the older ones have not been given that freedom. They need to attend a Christian college, associate with like-minded young people, of the same sex of course, and follow the parents' expectations. How does that allow them to fully experience free choice? I think they believe they have free choice, based on their up-bringing and life-style choices. They don't realize that there could be other options for them as their world is very tightly confined and controlled. JMO.

RottyMom said...

Ok, I'm new here, so forgive me if I touch on something that has already been discussed. I am also curious about the bed issue. It seems as though some of the kids sleep in their clothes (not talking about nap time) and what is up with no sheets on the beds in the boys dorm/room? I believe at one point there was a shot of either Joseph or John David sleeping in street clothes on a top bunk and just a mattress? Do they have assigned beds? I felt like they put JoHanna in a closet with some sort of couch/sofa pillow and a towel and also noticed she was expected to nap with a bunch of musical instruments because her "sister moms" were doing their so called College Minus lessons.
Sure, our children have fallen asleep on the couch, in the car, on the floor, but they have their own beds, complete with sheets and comforters, blankets, etc, but we never put them in a closet and we always made sure they had pajamas and although we do not have 19 children, we do have five. I understand older boys and girls will sleep in sweats, lounge pants and the like, but this isn't the first time I've noticed beds without sheets or blankets. If someone can please enlighten me, it would be appreciated.
Also, I do understand if one of the older boys was "on call" for the fire department, but come one, buy some sheets.

nogmamme said...

I have also noticed them not having sheets. It would gross me out to sleep directly on a matress unless it was brand new, and even then it would probably reek of chemicals. I also thought I had seen bunk beds with no rails on them. Even as an adult, that would freak me out no having a rail on the top bunk