Free Discussion, September, 2014

Please use this for Duggar and Bates sightings, speculation, or general discussion. Note that this is Duggar discussion not other families, TV shows, politics, religion, or personal stories. If the comment is more about you or some other issue than the actual Duggars or Bateses or other families seen on the show, please rethink before sending. Thank you!

I have a request for patience this month.  I'm scheduling posts a few months in advance since there is a grandchild due in September.  If moderation is slow, I'm probably changing diapers or walking the floor.  Thanks.  :)  

198 comments:

Anonymous said...

Congratulations. Hope all goes well.

Anonymous said...

Congrats~

My daughter had a baby girl in April-
I know the busyness involved!

Dar said...

Hope all goes well, Sharla. Nice to hear someone besides the Duggars is procreating. Being a grandmother is wonderful.

Anonymous said...

I wish people would stop asking how Ben and Jessa are going to support themselves. They are Celebrities!!
Celebrities are one of the highest paid professions in America. They will be sitting pretty for a long time to come. All they have to do is a few interviews, magazine cover shoots, write a book, etc.
Let's face it they are living the good life by being reality stars on T.V.
Why would they need a regular job?

Sharla said...

Thanks everyone. I wanted you to know that I will be heading out when the time arrives. Her brother was 9 to 10 days late and the doctor seems to be thinking this one won't be early either. I'll try to check in at least once a day while I'm gone.

pretty girl said...

anyone know where Josiah duggar is

Anonymous said...

Ok....yes I am watching the Duggar marathon today out of curiosity and since I have not really watched them during that time and HAD to comment on the Joy Anna birthday episode (2009)....3 things bothered me: 1) they showed a shot of a very very young (Jennifer?) eating a lollypop! OMG 2) Poor Joy Anna had to climb a rock wall in her SKIRT! 3) She was climbing rock wall in her flip-flops!
What the heck???? So embarrassing for that kid.

Leecy said...

I would just love to talk to the cameramen, sound people and producers of this show once it is done. I bet there is a lot of outbursts we never see

Anonymous said...

Hi--- does anyone remember when Josh and Anna we're engaged and they went to a movie with Jana and John-David? It confused me because I know from the show they don't watch movies in that way. Does anyone know what I may be missing or what type of movie it was? Thanks!

Wampascat said...

Jessa has another registry up on Amazon.

Anonymous said...

I'm wondering what Joseph has been doing since he left the alert academy? I worry for Josiah.

no1 said...

Jessa's Amazon registry was jaw-dropping in a smirk inducing way. Several VERY high end kitchen tools followed by requests for gift cards at multiple chain restaurants. Is that a thing now? Oh, that's right-- Jessa doesn't like to cook.

puddin' said...

Waay back when in the early days of watching The Duggars..i looked forward to watching them and The Roloffs too. Then the bucks and reality star fame went to their heads and it all became the same and boring. And we learned all the extreme beliefs ...in the case of the duggars i had hope that they were really just down home nice people who loved all....well that fizzled out..as they live to higher standards and everybody else is beneath them, not that they come out and say that...but hey we know..weren't born yesterday. My only hope is Little Couple will be the real deal. (oh and all remember-->buy used and save the difference. So you can send Jessa that foot massager or something wonderful from Amazon. :)

puddin' said...

@ Sharla... Congrats and You just take your time and have fun with your new grandbaby! Thank You for doing what you do here for us.

Anonymous said...

Can that Amazon registry even be for real? All those gift cards and a $900 computer??

Anonymous said...

Jessa and smug registered for a MacBook Air. A MACBOOK AIR.

Wampascat said...

I'd say the gift cards are to supplement their meals on their honeymoon. Most grown, working adults plan and save for this and don't expect their wedding guests to foot the bill got the honeymoon meals as well as wedding gifts. The Duggars are classless. They know no shame.

Hailey Wall said...

I believe they went to see Fireproof, which is a movie produced, written, directed and acted by Christians that has a very pro-marriage theme.

Judy said...

I'm wondering how Anna is feeling about Jill's pregnancy. The pressure must be tough. Jill got pregnant about two weeks after her wedding. It takes Anna longer to conceive. It's been a full 15 months since her last baby. I assume she is either pregnant or near pregnancy, but still, it must be hard. Plus, she's used to being the only Duggar grandchild machine.

Anonymous said...

I had really tried to give Jessa the benefit of the doubt- this is someone who was walking into marriage blindly, and without anything actually her own- so when I saw the foot massager and high priced items, I thought this may just be lots of wishful thinking for someone who's unsure what to ask for. Now that I see the amazon registry, I agree with everyone else. This is blatant, out-right greed, and I find it disgusting.

Anonymous said...

Re: Anonymous question about John David & Jana going to the movies with Josh & Anna when they were engaged. They were the chaperones. Originally they had picked Jinger for one of the chaperones, but the move was rated for 18 & over & she was not yet 18, so they had to pick someone other than Jinger. . Some bloggers mentioned that only the previews were for a movie rated for 18 or over, but Josh said it was an advanced showing of a really great movie. I also didn't understand why they went to a movie, & to me if there are even going to be previews that are rated for 18 & over it doesn't make sense for them to go to that theater. According to the Duggar they do not go to the movies, although they made an exception with Kirk Camerons movie, Fireproof. I believe that was the movie that the Duggars themselves were in. There's a huge difference between what the Duggars say & what they do.

Anonymous said...

I agree with anonymous about poor Joy & her birthday celebration. Climbing a rock wall in a skirt & flip flops. Did you notice how many, many times she said "momma please help me fix this skirt?" I think the people that worked there were appalled at her climbing in flip flops & they should be....guess who would have sued big time if Joy had slipped & had a bad fall? That poor girl. One minute we're hearing how she has entered "womanhood," & the next thing she's climbing a rock wall in flip flops & her dad trying to beat her at getting to the top. Way to go to celebrate a birthday. Say what you want about Amy but Joy loves her & she made Joy's day with the special birthday cake. Notice Michelle did nothing about getting a cake. Joy often say's she loves the gifts she receives from Amy.

Katie's Mom said...

Congratulations Sharla. Best wishes to you & your new grandchild. Nice to hear about a grandma who is actually looking forward to changing diapers & walking the floor cuddling that little one. Enjoy!

Anonymous said...

Re: The Duggar girls & their registries. I agree you need the basics to start a home & life together, but they have gone off the deep end. Doesn't anyone it that family know that, "GREED," is a SIN!

taurus0385 said...

Congratulations sharla!

Andrea said...

There is no way the amazon.com registry is real. It's totally fake.

Special Ed Lady said...

Anna might be relived to be off the radar to produce another baby. I think she looks like she has her hands full. It is hard with little ones.

Anonymous said...

Did Jim Bob really just buy JD (John-David) a plane for half a million? I read this on another board and it is was bought under the company name Duggar Aviation LLC. Supposedly he bought this so JD could pursue his dream of being a pilot. Okay, while I agree the Duggar kids do deserve things, why do the Duggar sisters always have to share everything, now wedding decor and stuff? If Jim Bob can afford a plane for JD he could certainly afford some new flowers for Jessa's wedding. And a nice sit down meal for the wedding guests! Why does it seem the Duggar sisters get jipped while Josh got a car lot(that had to cost some $) and now JD gets a half million dollar plane?!

Anonymous said...

Re: the registry
I am wondering if it's possible for these registries to be fake? I can see some impostors creating registries for these celebrity weddings since lots if fans want to send gifts. Could be another explanation to the craziness. But, someone said maybe on this blog that they sent Jill a gift and got a hand written thank you note with their picture. If they are legit registries, I agree it's out of control. :/

Anonymous said...

They could go camping or backpacking for their honeymoon And take a cooler and pack their meals for a week. Oh I forgot- That would involve grocery shopping ,meal planning ,and a little bit of cooking. also if she doesn't like to cook why is she asking for so many high end kitchen items on her registries?

Anonymous said...

15 months heaven forbid Anna's kids might actually have a mom who spends time with them.

Anonymous said...

How do we even know the registries are real?

Anonymous said...

I wanted to respond to my original comment about the kids going to movies. I think that it obviously was a movie like 'Fireproof' or something like that. Also, the previews shown before that movie may have been 18+ but they couldn't have been that bad bc they were previews shown before 'Fireproof'. In addition, the Duggars can't cast an umbrella over the 18+ kids all the time if ever. Despite what many think, I really do think the parents give the kids freedom and the movie with 18+ previews show us just that. However I totally get how confusion would arise due to I was mislead as well we see what was shown on TV without any explanation.

Goodie said...

I wonder what kind of men are pursuing the Duggar girls. Probably not anyone who is emotionally mature, ambitious and wants to make it on his own. Poor girls.

Coleen said...

I bet Anna is happy for Jill, she gets a break! Anna seems to really enjoy mothering her 3 and she and Josh may have just decided to halt the baby train.

Wampascat said...

Why would the Amazon registry be fake? Jill's was very much like it .she got a bunch of gift cards, the same juicer, bread mixer and attachments , a tent, noodles, a keyboard, stool, etc... Plus her BB &Beyond was enormous , as was her Walmart registry.

Anonymous said...

I don't think the baby train has stopped for Josh and Anna. But, I do hope they are truly able to embrace the more spread out timing of her pregnancies. It's very possible Jill, like her mom, will have have more faster. So far, Josh and Anna's kids haven't been super close together. I don't take issue with the no birth control- we'll take what we get- conviction. What bothers me is the obsessive pregnancy test taking that they all seem to do. Like they can't even wait for a late cycle to test! I know women who are intentionally trying to conceive have a hard time waiting. But they are super obsessed with it while claiming to just go about life and if they get pregnant, they get pregnant. Jill taking several pregnancy tests her first month of marriage?! I hope Josh and Anna are settling down, enjoying what sweet children they have and not obsessing. Recent updates on them have given me hope that they are!

Judy said...

So basically Jim bob wanted Ben to move there so that they could get engaged and married faster. Talk about no pressure on a young couple!!

Tammy C said...

I can't wait to see the episode later of when Josh's trainer comes to visit them!!

Anonymous said...

Derrick seems well -rounded. He is college (real college) educated and served a.missionary one his.own. He also works away from the famiy and seems like.his own.man.

zebracrossing said...

I was watching 17 Kids and counting from 2008 the other night...on Netflix. Josiah is so cute as a talking head...love his spunk and even his voice is cute. He said something that made me sad..."If it weren't for my mom...I'd be a nobody."
What? Oh my...it really is eye opening to watch these older shows and compare to the changes in this family. I don't think it is in their best interest to keep this show going. Poor children...the reality show is so UNREAL. Praying for Josiah

Anonymous said...

Does anyone else actually cringe when ole' Jim Bob continually has to kiss Michelle at the end of almost every sentence he utters? It's is so overdone and SO old I can't stand to watch it anymore. How can their kids stomach it? He really needs to lay off of that.Michelle doesn't even seem to want it anymore either. She is always quite tight/closed lipped when he "comes in" for one.

geistmadl said...

So when Jessa is quoted in several articles as wanting as many kids as god gives her, but she says she doesn't think she can have that many naturally....what does that mean? Her mom had help or is Jessa that clueless?

taurus0385 said...

I hope Jill uses common sense and doesn't have more babies then she and Derek can care for themselves without in listing their older children as caregivers.

Willow said...

I am not sure where to put this but since this is the general discussion, I will try here. I have a guess at what is happening with the "Jim Bob Show." Just a guess, mind you, but I think its a good one.

I think Jim Bob and Co. are just famous enough now that he might be looked at as the next Gothard (IBLP leader). If he said the right things publically, he just might pull it off. Now he has money as well as fame/fans whatever. I think the kids getting older and being in People magazine, etc., has tipped the scales. I predict that Josh may possibly move to HQ and work on political angles for IBLP. I know he misses Arkansas, but I think that is a possibility. The Wallers are there and he might go for it. I think there is a chance John David may be tapped as the HQ pilot (or probably ONE of the pilots).

I suspect Jill and Derick get their own TLC money now and they will eventually purchase the house they are in. They are probably the ones closest to being able to afford it right now.

Oh, and maybe Joseph will be one of the leaders of Alert. Do we ever hear of any other work he is doing? Anyway, just some random thoughts.

Allison said...


So when Jessa is quoted in several articles as wanting as many kids as god gives her, but she says she doesn't think she can have that many naturally....what does that mean? Her mom had help or is Jessa that clueless?

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I think Jessa probably just realizes that having 19 kids is unusual and that even if they don't use birth control, she doesn't have the expectation that she will get pregnant 19 times (or more) times. Just because you have sex doesn't mean you will automatically get pregnant.

Wednesday said...

I don't believe that Derrick is any more real than any other Duggar. There are fundies who go to real colleges. There are religious people who look mainstream, Who knows what organization he worked for during his mission? Obviously he subscribes to the same religion as the Duggars or he wouldn't be in the picture as has been pre-approved by Dumb-Bob. If he hasn't already fallen for the cash injection he will shortly. Imagine being young and freshly married and have that house given to you, along with the other gifts TLC showers them with. Derick is kind and fresh and mainstream but I don't believe for a second that he isn't just another Duggar.

Anonymous said...

RE: Anonymous 9/2 @11:15am. I'm sure that JB did purchase a plane for Johne David. Looks like it will be for some sort of business venture. John David can enjoy being a pilot & JB can take it off as a business deduction. I know in this day & age, I am probably considered crazy, but I would rather have a husband that was an honorable man, rather than one who was always looking for a way to somehow coerce sons or daughters into thinking he's doing something for their benefit when in truth, he's turning it into a businesse deduction. There's always a pot of gold at the end of JB rainbows.

Anonymous said...

Re: JB & the constant kissing. Isn't it just remarkable that a man with 19 children has all that time to spend kissing his wife. In some homes a wife & husband with only 2 or 3 kids, wouldn't have the time to spend kissing all day. They might possibly have housework, cooking, childcare, etc on their long list of daily chores. Oh I forgot, they have all that taken care of including the, laundry. When my mother-in-law was Grandma Duggars age, she was in Florida. She had so many friends & activities it was difficult to even reach her by phone. She square danced, belonged to more clubs than I can count, went on cruises, did so much volunteer work for meals on wheels, drove friends to Dr. appts. etc. Grandma Duggar needs to get a life. I remember how much she enjoyed the,"Widow's Banquet," that time. She doesn't need millions to live a happy & fulfilled life. She could really enjoy living in a retirement community, where there were other widows that traveled together, lunched etc. just enjoy the life they have earned & that's one woman that has earned it.

Anonymous said...

Jill posted a photo to Instagram about having her siblings over. Is she at Josh and Anna's old house? It sure looks like their old fireplace mantle in the background.

http://instagram.com/p/si5cxprs11/

Anonymous said...

Say what you want but those Duggars, they sure can make a nice banner welcoming people. ;-)

Anonymous said...

What are these people doing?....testing after every intimate moment?

Allison said...

Jill posted a photo to Instagram about having her siblings over. Is she at Josh and Anna's old house? It sure looks like their old fireplace mantle in the background.


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No, that's definitely not Josh and Anna's house. Fireplace is different and also there were no French doors by the fireplace. Josh and Ann's also wasn't as open as this is to the kitchen and lacked granite countertops.

Wednesday said...

So in Jill's Instagram picture where she has her siblings over watching Veggie tales - 1) Aren't the siblings in the picture a little too old for Veggie Tales? 2) Not sure which brother that is but is he trying to look ghetto flashing his peace sign like a gang sign? 3) Jill just seems to have a wild crazy look in her eyes in all of her recent pictures. Like she's hyper.

mom in texas said...

Everytime I think of Jill being married and pregnant, all I can hear is her responding "totallyyyyy" or "for surrreee" to anything Derick would ask her during their courtship, as if she was some 1980s teenage Valley girl. Not sure where she adopted that outdated vernacular but I hope she has outgrown that since becoming married. Although she is an adult woman, Jill still sometimes comes off as a teeny bopper who is in puppy love with her first steady boyfriend. I remember Josh and Anna going through that awkward period of excessive hand holding and kissing one another after every word they said. Or Anna sitting in Josh's lap while he was at his big boy job (the car dealership). It's all so immature. Yes, as newlyweds you show affection but these couples at first glance remind me over hormonal teenagers. No doubt Jill has had plenty of practice raising children and mothering but I still wonder how well prepared is she for the real adult life concerns that await she and Derick after the honeymoon is over and baby arrives.

Anonymous said...

People are commenting on how Anna is taking a break from pregnancy. Michael and Marcus were exactly two years apart so Anna is due to get pregnant within a month or so now meaning we will hear about her pregnancy in December. She isn't slowing down she just has kids every 2 years. This probably means, like most women, she can't get pregnant while breast feeding, unlike Michelle you can.

Anonymous said...

I'm really jealous of the duggars. I thought it'd be hard to go from no touching to full on everything, but they seem happy. I want to be that happy with my spouse. (The money probably helps though too).

mom in texas said...

What are these people doing?....testing after every intimate moment?
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Yes. That is exactly what they do. Baby making is the name of the game. Reproducing for the good of the kingdom (heck, I can't think of any other reason) is the Duggars and other like minded people's sole goal in life. The pressure is doubly hard when you are the daughter or daughter-in-law of the Michelle "I have 19 kids and I birthed everyyyy one of them" Duggar. These young ladies feel they have to live up to the claim to fame even though they are always leaving it to God. Jim Bob has to keep the train rolling. So since it looks like Michelle's time in the sun, oh I am sorry this season of life for her is over, it's time for the next generation to pick up the slack. Testing after every single intimate encounter is super necessary for these people. I can imagine these women test even after they have confirmed a pregnancy just to see if they got re-pregnant!

Anonymous said...

Their beliefs and lifestyle doesn't work if you live in a city or a more populated area. How are you going to get 10 kids into an elevator with strollers and diaper bags and walk to the grocery store. You sure can't live in a high rise apt bldg. and expect to have room for all those people, ride the city bus, or move around a city. This Gothard guy is one card short of a deck, IMO, because he only thought of people living out on the prairie in a one family house with a lot of land around you for the whole crowd. How would have the Duggars continued to have more and more kids if they lived in an apt or in a condo? Answer: they couldn't have.

Anonymous said...

We don't really have any idea yet how Jill is really handling all of these warp speed emotional/sexual changes. Remember their manual says to keep a smile on your face and stay positive at all costs, all the time. For all we know, Derick may have only "approached her" that one time and it was a grand slam. Poor guy, that would mean that he isn't getting any until after this baby is born...what will he do? Take a lot of showers just like before.
I think with all these changes and the hormonal changes after delivery that Jill will have a hard time and it will hit her then. She is still on a euphoric merry go round ride and it will come to an end at some point then.So sad that she and Derick have had absolutely NO married time together, they missed the boat IMO to be a couple at all. How will they ever get to know each other when all the distractions of kids immediately arrive? Of course, I do wish this baby and Jil well and I hope he/she is healthy and thrives well.

Anonymous said...

Here's a new pic of Josiah.

facebook.com/video.php?v=519736874826633&comment_id=520241021442885&offset=0&total_comments=420

Zoey said...

The kids were watching veggie tales? So much for "very little tv" and tight control over internet. The duggars are going mainstream! Does jill own a tv? Did jessa register for a tv! I can see her getting hooked on soap operas and jerry springer.

Allison said...

The kids were watching veggie tales? So much for "very little tv" and tight control over internet. The duggars are going mainstream! Does jill own a tv? Did jessa register for a tv! I can see her getting hooked on soap operas and jerry springer.

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Michelle has been pretty open that they watch some Christian movies and children's movies (one of her blog posts talks about watching Bambi). And how is Veggie Tales mainstream? It's a children's Christian video series. Keyword: video. It wasn't even on TV. Even if Jill and Derick have a TV that doesn't necessarily mean they have cable.

Zoey said...

It used to be on NBC which I consider mainstream television. I didn't realize is was originally a religious format since NBC or whatever station that aired it cut out all the religious stuff.

Zoey said...

I found this on E! As part of an interview with the duggar girls.
'Ladies, the Duggar daughters want you to know the secular world has many temptations in the form of rock 'n' roll music, social media, gossip sites and the silver screen, stating, "Much of Hollywood and pop culture media glorifies things that God considers to be wicked."

So there you have, they are slowing becoming mainstream at the expense of their former beliefs.

Anonymous said...

I found jill and derricks baby registry on amazon. I'm going to assume they're having a boy based on the tuxedo bib and all the razorback gear. I doubt Jill (or Michelle for that matter) would be ok with a little girl wearing anything that isn't dainty or girly since they cling so tightly to gender norms.

Anonymous said...

I don't think Jill thinks they are having a boy, they registered for pink paisley crib bedding. Trying to understand the 'logic' of registering for gender specific items when you haven't found out the sex of the baby.

Anonymous said...

The duggars can watch TV if they want. People can evolve or even change.This is America. Just because we start out one way in life, doesn't mean we have to stay that way forever! Life would be so boring. I hate when people stereotype people because of how they were raised. If they want to break free a little and experiment with a few worldly things, so what! They are human. They probably found out how much they enjoy watching TV, years ago when they went to Cousin Amy's to watch their own show. I would love for all of them to do whatever they wanted and live however they wanted. Who cares if they have TV , I bet we all do. Just think a few generations back, most Americans couldn't afford one or didn't believe in it. If it weren't for humans evolving and great technology a lot of us wouldn't have television. A great relaxing past time for me. I would never want to deny that to anyone, just because some creepy Gothard guy said TV was evil.

Anonymous said...

I am wondering what has happened to poor Josiah? In watching this "Dishing with the Duggars" that TLC is running, it makes me sad to see Josiah at age 10 or 11 before JB crushed his spirit.
Josiah seemed like the most intelligent of all the Duggar boys, save maybe Jason, and like he really wanted to further his education.
I feel like JB crushed his spirit because Josiah didnt want to run a car dealership or build things like Joseph and John. Josiah is smart and way better spoken than Joseph, or John or Josh.
Is he ever coming back from ALERT? They didnt make Joseph stay there this long. Did they ship him off because he enjoys playing cello, filming movies and other artistic endeavors and therefore does not fit the mold of a "manly" Gothard man?

Anonymous said...

I bet Jill will register for both boy and girls stuff because she knows she will have a dozen children and odds are good that she will have at least one boy or girl. I bet her baby registry will be huge because she will want a ton of stuff since she will have many children.

Anonymous said...

I found an article online from "Epoch Times" that had Michelle mentioning that Jordyn cried when she thought Jessa and Ben were leaving permanently, but they were just leaving with the Seewalds for the evening...heartbreaking because you know that Jordyn and the rest of the little ones are going to miss their buddies. Even more heartbreaking is that they will miss the because they will no longer have attention and cannot count on Mom Michelle for that nurturing. Here is the article link:

http://www.theepochtimes.com/n3/935816-duggars-19-kids-and-counting-jill-duggar-discusses-pregnancy-as-michelle-duggar-has-mixed-emotions-about-jill-and-jessa-leaving-home/

Zoey said...

Anon 625, no one is denying them tv. In fact, I would do the happy dance is every last duggar got a tv and watched it. I was simply pointing out how the waters are changing! Michelle shouting from the rooftops that she birthed all her children (jessa wanting to adopt) and patting herself on the back for having sheltered kids that don't have access to social media (yet they all sign up for twitter as soon as they can) She must feel a little like a failure every time a duggar kid does something she so arrogantly proclaimed they are against. They were supposed to believe social media and internet/tv were evil and "wicked" and yet one by one they all turn to it.

Anonymous said...

After reading about the extreme wedding gift grab from both Jill and Jessa, I've been wondering about whatever happened to their main rule they say they live by: "Jesus first, others second, yourself last." Seems that has been long forgotten. Hypocrites!

Anonymous said...

Yes, it's quite evident now that the girls are leaving that the little ones are having emotional issues with that. Those older sisters are the only mothers they know, even ol' cold Jessa. Michelle doesn't seem to give a damn that her own kids love and have bonded with their sisters and not her.. as a mother I would be absolutely crushed that I had allowed that to happen as a result of my own laziness. Someone should point that out to her and see what she says. A spoiled little girl has grown into a spoiled 48 year old lady. I would pay money to see the episode if Jana ever leaves and marries. Michelle would have to actually pick up a dishrag and do something around the house, if she remembers how.

Anonymous said...

JimBob and Michelle have a corporation registered under the name of "Mad Family Inc." See it at http://www.sos.arkansas.gov/corps/search_corps.php Anyone know what that's all about?

Katie's Mom said...

I really don't care if Derick & Jill register for girl or boy items. What infuriates me is the fact, that they just finished with their wedding registry. They probably haven't even sent out all the thank you notes. Then there's Jessa & Ben,& their wedding registry. Although, it's not fair to penalize Jessa about her registry (although I agree it's ridiculous) because her sister is grifting baby gifts. I remember that they had a baby shower for Anna at the Duggar home, although I don't remember them ever mentioning that she had a baby registry.For God's sake Duggars, get a dictionary & look up the word greed: excessive,inordinate, extreme or rapacious desire for something, often more than one's proper share, an avid desire for gain or wealth, & finally;Selfish! How much longer is this Duggar circus going to last? Wonder just how much thought Jill is giving to all the very poor & orphaned children she met & just loved so much on her mission trips El Salvador.

Anonymous said...

Exactly my point. Just because one generation thinks something is evil and wicked chances are the next one will be more relaxed about it. Think of the things the majority of Americans do and say nowadays that was absolutely forbidden by even some peoples grandparents/great grandparents. If the generations after them wouldn't have gave just alittle , we would all be under the same rule of thumb. I don't think anyone should criticize any Duggar kid for doing anything mainstream. This was their parents belief system. Just because you were born into it doesn't mean you should have to live and choose to do the things your parents did. Give the Duggars some room here. Let.them use the internet and watch TV without people being like omg they use to be so conservative..blah blah blah...Remember that is their parents beliefs..it didn't and shouldn't mean their children. Let them make up their own mind.

Ohio buckeye said...

Congrats on the new baby and health and joy wished to you and yours!

Anonymous said...

Anon 4:51pm, you must not have read the Duggar girls' book, on which they are cashing in. They preach at length about all "their" beliefs including no tv, no social media, put yourself last, serve others, modesty, frugality, being Christian role models for others, blah, blah, blah. Yet they do the complete opposite of what they say. These are not little kids. They are adults now who are building their own wealth and fame based on selling themselves as the role models of this lifestyle without living it themselves. Yes there's every reason to call out the adult Duggar offspring on their own hypocrisy.

Anonymous said...

I would like to know if Derick and his family watched TV like normal people do; they don't have to watch extreme programming at all, neither do I. I prefer more uplifting shows. Having said that, I would like to hear from him if he had to give up watching TV altogether and only watch Christina videos,etc. He has never explained HIS belief system or the one he grew up with. He obviously went to a regular school as a photo (around age 5) with his dad was posted and he obviously was in a classroom around Halloween time. The Duggars trumpet their beliefs and I'd like to hear from Mrs. Cathy or Derick on where they are now with those things, and any differences between Derick and Jill, how will they handle those things,,,TV, music,socializing with his college friends, etc..

Katie's Mom said...

I really don't care if Derick & Jill register for girl or boy items. What infuriates me is the fact, that they just finished with their wedding registry. They probably haven't even sent out all the thank you notes. Then there's Jessa & Ben,& their wedding registry. Although, it's not fair to penalize Jessa about her registry (although I agree it's ridiculous) because her sister is grifting baby gifts. I remember that they had a baby shower for Anna at the Duggar home, although I don't remember them ever mentioning that she had a baby registry.For God's sake Duggars, get a dictionary & look up the word greed: excessive,inordinate, extreme or rapacious desire for something, often more than one's proper share, an avid desire for gain or wealth, & finally;Selfish! How much longer is this Duggar circus going to last? Wonder just how much thought Jill is giving to all the very poor & orphaned children she met & just loved so much on her mission trips El Salvador.

Anonymous said...

Jessa is now showing off via photos and bragging that her engagement ring is "3/4 carat diamond with 18k gold band".

Is bragging about your jewelry via social media an example of the Duggar mantra of "Modesty" that Duggar supporters defend?

Oh well, I guess Jessa & Ben have to get money somehow (selling photos) since neither of them have jobs. Note to Ben: Cutting the lawn for JimBob is not a real job.

LauraS said...

On Derick's twitter feed, there is mention of watching the Avengers and also Star Wars references. Seems pretty mainstream to me. Wonder if that will change & if their children will be allowed to watch movies like that?

Anonymous said...

I was watching the old episode where the Duggars visit a public school to talk about reading yesterday.
I couldn't believe my eyes! Michelle had the nerve to walk in that school with that blanket-nursing pillow in tow. I don't know which baby girl it was, but she said that the baby couldn't be without "mama'. Bull. All she had to do was express some breast milk in a few bottles and leave the baby home. Jim Bob or Grandma could have taken care of her in the meantime. It was in very poor taste and highly inappropriate for her to be reading to the class while this kid is hanging off of her under some blanket across her chest. I'm sorry, folks, but it's just not appropriate for someone to "carry on" while in public in front of many children in such a manner. She is an attention whore and shouldn't have accepted the offer to appear in school if she couldn't leave the baby at home,or she should have sent the older girls by themselves...
The girls were amazed to be in a public school for the first time ever. Strange.

Aimee said...

I am excited to see Josh, Jill, and Jessa finally living their own lives a bit. Yes, the regestries are excessive, but we have all been hoping for them to break free and now they finally have. For children who have shared, without a choice, everything their entire lives it must be exciting to have new things just for themselves. Jim Bob and Michelle have really hurt the children by only allowing the shared toys/clothing and hand-me-downs because as adults their children cannot help but want to have nice things. The same goes for their desire to join social media - their parents chose that ridiculously sheltered life and now they want to do what others their own age are doing. Be free older Duggars --- Then free your siblings!!!

Missy said...

Re; Anonymous' comments about Michele nursing Jordy in front of a classroom full students. I absolutely agree with every word. Was just wondering if you saw the same thing when Michele was nursing the baby while on a float in a parade in Dollywood. JB with a big smile on his face saying, " this must be a first nursing a baby on a float. They are both fame whores. I remember that JB had actually asked Michelle, " "do you need to feed her now?" Of course she did. I said a long time ago that she should a anticipate these times with an infant & bring a bottle of breast milk. I thought the school officials should have politely escorted Michelle to a room or office that was unoccupied & told her to nurse her baby & then they could go on with the reading session.

Zoey said...

I too noticed michelle in the school wearing that ridiculous bed strapped to her hip. Is that thing even safe? It looks awkward and not sturdy.

cassia said...

After having so many kids, Michelle should know how often her baby needs to be fed. Why couldn't they (she and the teacher) work around the schedule so reading time wouldn't fall right in the middle of nursing time? If the reading time had to be at a certain time of day, one of the sister-moms could have read to the kids. Even though Michelle was totally covered up, I imagine some of the kids went home to ask their moms some awkward questions about babies. Michelle does these things for the shock value & attention. Her girls were probably cringing with embarrassment inside while flashing their "stay sweet" smiles.

zoey said...

I would not criticize a woman for nursing discreetly in public -if her baby was hungry however its all for show with Michelle. That baby could have been nursed prior to the school event or after or behind closed doors certainly. She just wants to make a scene. The bed strapped to her hip is very...."look at me look at me"

Anonymous said...

I have absolutely no issue with breast feeding in public (it's a natural bodily function and the baby needs to eat), but that scene of them standing on the float made me nervous, even though it was a few years ago. I can't imagine that was safe. Seriously, JB couldn't have scrounged up a chair for Michelle to wave from as she nursed? Having all those kids for publicity won't do you much good if you end up injuring them in the process.

Anonymous said...

The nursing pillows plainly have tags on them that are only to be used while mama is seated. They are solely to help position the infant. They are not designed as a support.

Anonymous said...

Perhaps Michelle purchased the nursing pillow in the thrift shop & someone had removed the tag with the safety instruction. We all know the Duggars aren't known for being concerned about the safety of their children. All you need to see is the many times, JB & Michelle walk hand in hand ahead off the kids, without even looking back to check on them. They just assume the buddies have everything under control, even in New York City they don't check on them.

Anonymous said...

Re: Cassia's comment. I have heard Michelle say in the past that she nurses her babies the entire time they are awake. So unless they are in bed for the night or nap time, I guess she's nursing.

tulip said...

Seriously, the Duggar registries are just so offensive. Why are Ben & Jessa asking for artificial flower arrangements costing $50 when they could buy a few stems at Michaels and make one just like it for 10 bucks? That's what they would normally do before all this weddings gone wild stuff started, not to mention they would probably make an episode all about seeing pricey décor and DIY on the cheap. Not any more. If they have the opportunity to ask for it, they will. Also on BB&B Henckels knife block set for $400? Amazon's has the MacBook and ipad as well as commercial juicer and Bosch stuff like Jill asked for. The Duggars are millionaires several times over, they can buy their own MacBook and fire-proof safe. Ridiculous.

Beth Anne said...

Re: What infuriates me is the fact, that they just finished with their wedding registry.

I have never, ever heard of someone doing their baby registry 1-2 months into a pregnancy. Just, wow. I guess they figure they should put all their wants and needs out there for people to view, and by golly all their "fans" will trip over themselves to buy every last item. And, once items are bought, they'll keep adding to the registry, much like what happened with the wedding registry. Didn't we recently see episodes of all the crap/extra stuff the Duggars had in storage, and wasn't some of that stuff baby items that Jill could use? Not to say she can't register for new things, but this is getting ridiculous. And the sheeple just keep going on and on about how Godly and wonderful these people are.

Anonymous said...

Aimee, none of the married kids are breaking free, nor will they. Their greed and desire to be lazy is just too strong. They know how the money game works and they are in it for the money you can be sure. I don't feel sorry for them, or feel they're entitled to act in their greedy hypocritical fashion at all. They have options to take a higher road out of Duggarville but every single one is choosing instead to pimp themselves and constantly take from others just like their parents who taught them well.

Liz said...

Does anyone know what happened to cousin Amy?

Anonymous said...

In this weeks episode when Jill, Derick & Michelle were looking at wedding venues, I just couldn't believe it when Michelle said they had to consider the, "budget constraints." One minute it's going to be the wedding of the year, as it's the first Duggar daughter to marry & the next they have "budget constraints." Meanwhile JB is purchasing a plane, & setting up some other type of business. I can't believe that either the Duggars, or TLC think we believe what they are trying to sell the public.

Ginger said...

Anybody elese think all the talk about staying within a budget for the wedding was just plain ridiculous. They're millionaires & concerned about the cost of the first daughters wedding. I'll bet the wedding cake was donated by the friend, who made the all those cakes for them to sample. After all, Jill was involved in helping to deliver her babies. They were even asked if they would like just some sandwiches & punch, for the reception. Michelle kept saying they were more "barefoot & backyard people" when it came to the wedding venue. So in the end, some very close friends baked cookies, rice krispy treats, cupcakes, (not the ones from the cupcake place in DC)& of all things instead of punch they had root beer floats. I can't even imagine what a mess that was with all the kids that were there.

Patrice said...

The Duggars get more ridiculous by the day. There is no way Derrick and Jill know the sex of the baby yet and it is in extremely poor taste to set up a registry so early, especially so soon after a wedding gift-grabbing extravaganza. They are probably just registering for anything and everything for the twenty kids they are hoping to have.
And as for Jessa and Big Baby Ben, I will be surprised if that wedding lasts a year. Really, Jim Bob? Find a little boy for your daughter to marry and set him up as your personal house-boy? That way you can control their income, their lives and be assured they cannot leave the compound because neither of them is educated enough to go to college or find a real job.
Why is TLC still supporting this ridiculous bunch of people? And why do so many people think they are a family to be admired and emulated?
It used to be kind of "man, they are goofy little hillbillies" funny, but now it is to the point of being really nauseating and difficult to think that this lifestyle actually exists. And People magazine has really gone (further) down the tubes, announcing every time a Duggar has something "special" to share with us. Ugh!

Anonymous said...

Just watched the Ethiopian restaurant rerun this morning. Boy oh boy, do I hope that Josh reads this blog because it would be good for them to know how they are perceived by others, not just that adoring family blog they have where they are basically worshipped.
Having said that, the look on Anna's face in the restaurant when the cultural music and DANCING was going on was priceless! What was she, a 20 year old snot nose? The look of disapproval and discomfort on all of their faces was surprising. In fairness to them I don't know if they weren't aware from the producers that music and dancing is part of the dining experience there, of if it was scripted ahead of time and they knew beforehand. Either way, their hick-status was magnified and made obvious to all. I apologize to small town residents, we aren't all "hicks" as I live in a rural southern area myself, but have had life experience with various cultures. Forgive any insult perceived as it isn't my intention. I am focusing my comments towards the Duggars and their performance in that restaurant. It is closed minded of them to absolutely believe that all dancing and music other than classical and hymns are sinful and they are forbidden to listen to any other type of music. I also call "bull" on a recent statement from Jessa, I think, that they listen to bluegrass music. That simply isn't so as they made a point to say only hymns and classical music is allowed. It was a convenient time to "include bluegrass" as one of the Bates boys had a bluegrass CD just released. Hypocrites.

Eostara said...

Why does Jim Bob asks Derick in one episode how he will be supportinng Jill and then allowing the courtship / engagement of Jessa and Ben. That does not make any sense. I have to assume that this is because they need to get to the physical side in their relationship. I remember very well how I felt with my first boyfriend. We were very much in love and it was just necessary and by the way natural to get to know each other in every possible way. Nobody can make decisions about one's life without having real relationship experience. And that involves talking and touching.

What will happen after Jessa's and Ben's wedding regarding the kissing and touching in public? Do I have to assume that they will be glued together, touching and kissing constantly in front of the little ones? Is that ensuring the purity thoughts of the grown-up and adolescent siblings?

In one of the latest episodes, I saw again a smiling Jana whose smile didn't hit her eyes.

I breakes my heart that they are not even allowed to feel and express the full spectrum of emotions a human being has.
God created all emotions as well as music and dancing, because the latter actually makes people happy!

Stephanie said...

We talked about the school and parade public nursing when it happened and I am glad our new friends are able to see what we (us blogging friends) have been talking about.

Someone above said she agrees with public nursing because its a bodily function. So is urinating and bowel movements and we do that in private. Nursing doesn't have to be done in large crowds such as school assembles or parade routes. Michelle was enjoying this attention.
When Jordan was hanging off Michele (literally) and her little body dangling away from her on the pillow, her son was sitting there (was it Josiah?) He had to be embarrassed and he looked uncomfortable anyway being at a public school. Teen boys are more sensitive than people think and Michelles public nursing with het teen sons may have embarrassed then more than she thinks.

Stephanie said...

I can't resist on commenting about how the adult daughters have been dressing their brothers. The old man caps, the skinny jeans and bow ties and vests. I am in the south and I have three teens. My twin boys (who are Bens age) would not be caught dead in Bens get up in the guest house scene announcement. The tacky red shirt and black vest Ben was forced to wear by Jesse. That's not really his style but like most boyfriends they will wear what the girlfriend says.

My question is why do the adult girls think this is so stylish? It's really not. If my sons asked for bow ties i would tell them no and a no on the old man caps as well.

The only boys that where that stuff (according to my daughter) are Non athletes, goofy, wanna be comedian types. My kids are at public school. My twins are more preppy or jockey I would describe. Of course the schools have all types of kids and that's fine but my boys played football and baseball and they just adopt a style I suppose.

tulip said...

"Anybody elese think all the talk about staying within a budget for the wedding was just plain ridiculous."

Yes, thank you. It is extremely difficult, not to mention just flat out ludicrous, watching millionaires talking about having to have volunteers bake cookies for a wedding. I guess their fans still like to think they're the same obtuse family from 10 years ago living in a church rental house and wearing second hand cowboy boots pieced together w/ ductape. What's even more preposterous is hearing all the talk about "budget" while knowing full well the bride & groom's registries are chock full of the most expensive items of their kind in the store and asking for over the top "nonessentials" just because they can.

And seriously...why show all the elegant cake testing nonsense when the guests ended up with plain ol' sheetcakes, mix and match cupcakes and rice krispie treats?

Amy appears to be doing nothing, as usual. What other almost 30 year old has as much time on their hands as she does to goof around & post pics of herself playing darts and eating lunch? Why does Grandma Duggar put up with this and participate in all her lame selfies? Josh posts a pic of himself mowing the lawn. Anna posts educational concerns over "the common core"...ummm, hello...IMO because they choose to homeschool she just needs to keep her propaganda to herself. Duggar Instagram shows Joy baking with the little kids while her hangs down over everything and Josie is pictured on a bike in the family room, not a play wheels or trike, but actual full size bike. So judging by their social media posts...these are people who are great examples and worthy of praise and admiration?

Anonymous said...

I would like to make an observation about that "so called book the girls wrote". I'm sure they typed on that computer notebook the rules that ATI/Gothard spelled out for them just fine. Their parents and a ghostwriter actually wrote the book and did all the work. Having said that, the title, "Growing Up Duggar" is an oxymoron. These girls aren't allowed to grow up at all..the only thing they actually do is age.

Anonymous said...

You know with all the repeats this past week or so, I have to say what I've said, & thought many times...those younger Duggar boys don't have "so much energy that they just need to get it out," they are hyperactive!

Anonymous said...

I just loved little Jenny in her new purple glasses. She looked adorable. I would love to know when Michelle noticed that she needed glasses. When kids go to school, a teacher will often be the one to notice the problem & send a note home, but this time I wonder if the sister-mom noticed?

Ginger said...

There was a repeat today where JB was building a basketball court in their yard. Michelle made the comment that JB, wanted the kids to play at their own home. So I guess that's why they never were involved in any activities outside the compound.

Anonymous said...

In a repeat when Michelle was buying her "wedding dress" at Kliendfelds in N.Y. for her vow renewal,I just loved her comment that between JB & Josh's comments, they were finally able to pick the right dress. She had all those beautiful daughters with her, & she takes her advice from JB & Josh!

Wampascat said...

Interesting that there is a baby registry up so soon. I wonder if all the thank you notes have been sent out for the thousands of wedding gifts yet?

Coleen said...

Regard Duggars' music choices; many people in the South consider Bluegrass a form of rural religious music. The pure, original Bluegrass not the modern, hipster version.

Lana said...

Random, but I think it's funny how all of the Duggars have blue eyes, even the grandchildren. Since ben, Derrick, and anna have blue eyes too, all of the duggar grand kids will have blue eyes too. Funny how genetics work, even though blue is a recessive gene! I wonder if someone will marry a brown eyed person to add some diversity lol!

Anonymous said...

Anyone else feel like by the time TLC get around to showing Jill's wedding, she'll already have a couple kids?

Sharla said...

We're having a few rule issues with new people coming in. Please don't use profanity, @ people, or discuss alleged sexual orientation for young people still living under fundie rule. Independent and married people such as David Waller it's OK. Also please try to stay on topic for the various threads/posts. Thank you!

Anonymous said...

I've been thinking about it, and wonder if jana is being punished for some sort of perceived indiscretion by not being allowed to marry. Hell, she's barely even allowed to speak. Do they think she might be a verbal loose cannon, or are they trying to bury something?

sandi said...

Re: blue eyes.Science proves all ppl with blue eyes have a common ancestor.So the Duggars are related to a whole, whole bunch of ppl out there.
Perhaps they should remember that when yelling "Nike!" at someone who's clothing they don't agree with.That person may have blue eyes and may be a distant cousin.Wouldn't want to insult family,now would we?

Muffin said...

I was watching the old episodes where they had the Duggars make comments and give their opinions and stuff,one scene had the four oldest daughters and they all seemed so awkward with each other. I get the feeling behind the scenes they probably aren't that close.

Zoey said...

Since michelle will be in her late 50s when Josie gets to "courting" age, I'm betting she won't be held to the same rules as the first 18 kids.

Andrea said...

Jessa, Jill and Josh separately posted birthday wishes to their "hero" mother. Really? Your mother is your hero for what . . . birthing 19 children. Honestly, the adult children must be petrified of annoying their pay check parents because no adult would claim their "do nothing" mother is their hero.

Anonymous said...

I was just looking at Jill's baby regiatry. Not that we should be surprised by their other registries but there are things like Dr Pepper, orange fanta, every flavor of puffs, a booster seat (for the car) a straight talk card and a step stool.

Coleen said...

Guess what showed up on my MSN news feed. Duggar kids wish mom a happy birthday. Really, this is news...

Kay said...

Jimbob had better get on arranging more courtships and marriages if he intends to keep the gravy train rolling. After Jessa gets married and jill pops out that kid, we'll have seen it all (weddings of sons and daughters, both sons and daughters having kids of their own). The only thing I can think of to keep the railings up would be to marry off another son (since it's been so long), or one of the more controversial daughters like Jana or Jinger. Or a scandal, but I don't think that'll be made public.

sandi said...

I suspect the girls are getting a kickback from some of the items listed on their registries.Either in the form of getting free items,payment for listing certain items,or perhaps getting the items for free.And I think that is the real reason Jill announced her pregnancy so early,so that she could go ahead and cash in on it.JMO

Anonymous said...

I'll never understand why "fans" wish Michelle to have another child. At her age, 48, this child would have a mother who is approaching 70 when they are only 20 years old. Also, this child might not be the healthiest they could be...I don't think that's a good wish. They should wish Michelle realization for the "season of life" that she IS in and put to rest the ridiculous "we would love another one" statement she continues to make.
Not changing the title of the show, indicated to me, that she is still holding out hope for another. 19 Kids and Courting or 19 Kids and Chaos is more appropriate at this time...Jim Bob needs to have a serious talk with her about this.

Anonymous said...

Are you serious?! Can you imagine if regular people put that stuff on their baby registry? People would think they were nuts!! They would be the town gossip for sure. Must be nice to be a celebrity, you can ask the public for all sorts of stupid things and I bet she gets most of it. Celebs get free stuff all the time. It is sickening especially when they can darn well afford this garbage themselves. In mean if she wanted to include cheaper items for some people she could of asked for: baby wipes, baby bibs, baby shampoo, even diaper rash ointment is only a few dollars. But then again if she asked for a straight talk card..that isn't cheap. I wish someone would explain to her why you have a baby shower...to receive baby items! This isn't a birthday or Christmas registry..and I am glad to my knowledge those type of registries do not exist. I understand Jill delighted in getting all those gifts for her wedding but this should be about baby.

Lisa said...

I know this is just my opinion & I certainly don't want to offend anyone, but I think that since Josie was a micro premie she has done extremely well with hitting her milestones. She walked long before I thought she would. Her cognitive skills, speech, understanding etc.is pretty good. If you listen to her sing she seems to remember the words to the songs. Having said that, it seems to me that she still is extremely small & frail looking. She doesn't seem to progress much at all, as far as height & weight. I wonder if she has been evaluated for her tiny stature. She will be 5 yrs. old in Dec. although I know they need to take into account the actually time she would have been born if she wasn't a premie. I'm not sure if Josie is "hyper," or she just has to fight her way into the group of young ones. Josie's health may be just fine & she may need a few more years of catching up. My concern is that up until we saw little Jenny get glasses, we never heard a word about her headaches & I wonder if those kids have their eyes & hearing etc. tested on a regular bases. It's difficult to believe that out of 19 kids some of them wouldn't have a need for eye glasses or perhaps have allergies of some type. When you think of what some families go through with premies, & I,m sure others can speak more about that than I can, it just amazes me that Jim Bob & Michelle have always just expected her to be fine..no problems. They considered her in good health when they brought her home from the hospital on oxygen, & monitors & passed her around to all the little kids with runny noses. They had also just recovered from chicken pox.
They were shocked when they received a call, when they were in South America ( trying to help the orphans) & Josie had ben rushed to the hospital with a seizure. Michelle really tried to make light of the incident,( I guess because she was out of the country at the time) saying Josie was just fine, happy & healthy when they arrived home. Of course on the screen, it said she had been taken back to the hospital 3 more times.

Anonymous said...

They don't believe in science.

Anonymous said...

Does anyone know if any of the relatives on Michelle's side of the family, the Rourkes,( I think is the name, although I'm not sure of the spelling.) were invited to the wedding? After all with over 1,00 guests you would expect Aunts & Uncles & first cousins, would at least show up. Of course, they would need to be invited. I didn't see any of them at Josh's wedding. The last time I saw extended family there at the Dugars home was when Michelle had just had her gallbladder removed, & she stayed in her room. It wasn't a problem as Jana was in charge of some of the other girls & they put on dinner. The Aunts, Uncles & cousins were staying at a hotel & JB & the kids went there, & they also had a meal there at the hotel. I remember the howlers were really out of control back at the Duggars house & JB said he was afraid they were scaring some of the elderly aunts. Nothing like inviting the elderly relatives over to see if the boys can cause someone to have a heart attack or stroke.

Anonymous said...

I think when Josie gets to courtin' age, Josh will take over, I mean assist JB with the father/male overseer role.

Anonymous said...

I just happened to come across a piece that Jill wrote in her mom's "Parentable column." She stated that in May 2012 she was starting her schooling to become a Certified Professional Midwife. She said it would take her three and a half years to complete her studies. That was for her book work study not including her on site practical work. That was in 2012. How can anyone think she's completed three & a half yrs. in June of 2014? My math may not be great but to me that means she has at least another full year & a half if not more, with all the time she's taken off & she does admit to that.

Quiana said...

Gosh!
I'm still wondering how the Duggars went from no tech not even a TV to smartphone, twitter and instagram?!?
Does anyone know???

Also I'm 100% sure when the youngest Duggar is ready to date and marry the parentals will have backed off so much they won't care lol! And what the heck was up with them JB and M going to a fertility doctor if its up to god?! They don't make any sense. Also as its been told M wasn't so uptight and righteous before getting married why is she forcing her kids to live a sheltered life where they are grownup children with no real life experience!

Rudy Tecat said...

Two things: One: The Duggars do believe in science, but only when it can help them conceive and keep Josie alive. Otherwise, they're in denial. Two: A lot of us were in the dark about technology when the Duggars started their show. JB probably hadn't worked out a deal with the cell tower people to get free phones and internet before then.

Anonymous said...

Did anyone else catch the ads in the commercial breaks that called the show "19 Kids" ? During the show, the twitter hashtag also said "#19kids" . I guess they are done counting! Maybe they filmed the title sequence before they made the decision to change it. (although I love whoever on here suggested "19 kids and counting down" !) haha

Anonymous said...

In a repeat today when Josh & Anna were house hunting in DC. They looked at apartments, a townhouse & finally a house. When they were looking at the apartments & townhouse Josh made the comment that his kids don't keep "regular hours" & that could be a problem with the neighbors. They had 3 little ones at the time, Mac, Michael & Marcus a newborn. What really small children don't keep "regular hours?" I understand they had an infant that might be up in the night for feedings, for a short period of time, but do Mac & Michael stay up late at night like the rest of the Duggars family? If I had 3 little ones, that age believe me,they would be in bed early in the evening. I would think Anna would be tired after a full day with 3 little ones. Josh knows his family all stay up very late, even the little ones. You would think with starting out with small children they would have a nighttime routine hat included an early bedtime. Why start them out as "night owls?" That's a terrible habit & no reason for it. In families where the dad needs to work late in the evening, kids still go to bed at a reasonable hour & they make up for any lost time by spending more time together on the weekends.

Leela said...

Anyone notice how Jill is so bug-eyed in her twitter/instagram pictures? Her expression looks so forced and unnatural.

Anonymous said...

Was just visiting with some family members who are expecting their first child and want family and friends ti re gift used baby clothes, products and toys at their shower. It got me to thinking about the Duggars hypocracy in always spouting "buy used and save the difference" but then having extravagant tastes on their bridal and baby registries. So I'd like to suggest that anyone who wants to send them a gift get a goft card, use the gift card yourself and then send them the "used" gift card. It would be kind of like a "new to you" day old lottery ticket.

Katie's Mom said...

I agree with Anonymous 9/17 @5:46am.. It's unbelievable to say "my kids don't keep regular hours." These were not teen age kids he was speaking about. What in the world keeps children under the age of 4, from going to bed at a reasonable hour? Maybe it's the fact that they need to individually tire each of them out, or as they say "get their energy out," as they did in one episode with Mac. Of course, they only succeeded in getting her all wound up by playing . I also remember that Anna said Marcus was her first baby to sleep through the night from the time he was born although the other two slept through the night very earl, according to Anna. I think Anna 'ta good mom but why would she allow those kids to stay up late, keep their own hours? When they lived in AR Josh was always around, so they weren't missing out on time in the evening with their dad because he was working late, as many moms & dad need to.

Anonymous said...

Michelle looks so frail... a strong wind could blow her over....all those "blessings" sucked the calcium out of her bones.

Anonymous said...

Re: Little Jenny getting glasses due to headaches. As mentioned we had never heard that this little girl even had headaches. I was thinking how difficult it must have been for her to have to get up early in the morning for the photo shots for magazines or for the Today show. You have to wonder what's going on with these children behind the scenes. I'm sure they are filmed on days they don't feel well. Actually I'm sure they do, as they were all filmed when they had the chicken pox & some were very sick. Aren't there any rules regarding filming with sick children or is it up to the parents discretion?

Anonymous said...

So the only goal in life is to wait, get hooked up by your dad with a mate and then reproduce. Im worried. When will they enjoy life?

hello said...

Apparently there are no rules regarding sick kids. They were filmed when they had the chicken pox and had the flu. They have filmed the kids throwing up and even let the cameras in the NICU when Josie was born and they didn't know if she was going to survive.I don't think anything is off limits to these people. They even had the crew filming each time Anna gave birth.

Dar said...

Watching reruns of older episodes. What I see over and over again is Michelle's complete detachment from little Jordyn. She is the same age as Josie, a little girl. Over and over again whenever Michelle is even with these two, her focus is 99% of the time on Josie. Poor little Jordyn seems to be invisible to Michelle. There are times when she gives a sideways look at Michelle almost begging for some attention. The only parent who gives her any is Jim Bob and not much at that. When Michelle is on the talking seat and puts on that sympathetic and sincere face and announces that "Jim Bob and I are praying about adoption", I could cringe. I hope if Jana ever leaves that she takes Jordyn with her. JMHO

Anonymous said...

Prince William and Kate set up a charitable gift fund when they got married and made a point of telling the public that if they wished to send a gift a donation to the charitable fund would be the best route. Now that's how classy people operate. Since they have more than they could ever imagine, they want any "good will" to go to those who need it more. JimBob isn't exactly the Queen of England, but the Duggar family in general certainly has more than enough to sustain themselves and any new babies. I keep seeing sheeple on Duggar boards talking about sending them gifts. The Duggars should have publicly discouraged this as the Cambridges did. Its one thing for close family and friends to give gifts but accepting them from strangers is just grifting.

Anonymous said...

It's sad to see how psychotic the Duggars really are. Although the Bates aren't quite as "on display" as the Duggars, I do regularly read Kelly's blog, I've seen all of their episodes, follow some of the kids on Pinterest…etc etc. It's sad because the Bates have strict rules just like the Duggars, but they actually seem to genuinely let the kids decide their own courtship rules. Kelly has stated on her blog several times that each child has picked different rules for courtship & engagement and although they have all chosen to save their kiss for their wedding, Zach, Michaela, Erin and Alyssa all had different rules for their courtships and engagements, which proves that they actually chose that, not Kelly and Gil. Kelly has also stated that the family square dances at home, and has mentioned the couples slow dancing in private after marriage. Alyssa's Pinterest is filled with celebrities hair and clothing style ideas…she repeats certain ones like Selena Gomez and Kate Middleton a lot, which tells me she actually knows something about the outside world. Alyssa also straight up stated that she wants a lot of kids but DEFINITELY NOT 19 or even 10 or more. She's been married for a few months and still not pregnant…good news.

Now my question (that will never be answered) is how did the Duggars become so crazy and rigid? Is it solely because of their fame?

Anonymous said...

The Duggars are so legalistic it is pathetic. I currently attend a Christian college, and dating couples can hug, hold hands, go on dates alone etc. The only rule is they can't go into each other's dorm room, which is a whole lot more understandable.
Also, has anyone else noticed how much the older girls say, "Our parents this..." or "Our parents that..."

They can't even think for themselves.

Willow said...

I think Jim Bob and Michelle are scared to death that one of their children might actually outshine them, i.e., be better looking or more successful and that is what they are really frightened of. JMO.

Anonymous said...

Leela..I have noticed Jil's "bug-eyed" look, especially since she's gotten married. I'm wondering if it's something she's practiced in the mirror.

Anonymous said...

I also noticed that "bud eyed look" on Jill since she married. Maybe the sex shocked her!

Anonymous said...

IMO, all of the Duggars including Anna need speech therapy and grammar lessons. The older Duggar girls speak the best of the lot, IMO because after a few of those kids, it was not possible for Michelle to give any of them the attention they needed. The other kids "just picked up language skills" as they went along. Not much effort has been put into most of those kids after the first 4 or 5, IMO.
What's Anna's excuse for her 2 older ones speaking unintelligibly? Mack has serious "r" issues and Michael still just babbles...Marcus doesn't have much of a chance listening to those two speak.
Put those kids in a nice Christian pre school/play group, you won't be sorry and you'll have a chance to run some errands, get some things done at home in peace and maybe a little nap on occasion while they are out learning SOME social skills while still in a Christian setting. It was the best environment for my boys as I sent them to a mothers day out program at various Christian churches as they were coming up to kindergarten.

Lisa Vanamerongen said...

Anyone else noticed that this is the third TX show with the pottery painting. Gosselins had an episode where Kate took the girls to paint, Honey Boo Boo had an episode of painting as a family activity. Now Duggars doing the same.

Ginger said...

When Josh & Anna first moved to DC, Anna took the kids on the Metro & they went to some "mommy & me play group." She had nothing but great things to say about that experience for the kids. So what happened? The last we heard Anna couldn't wait to take the kids back to the play group. I'v never seen so many people that talk the talk, but don't walk the walk.

Wednesday said...

TO me Jill's Bug Eyed look is more like she is crazed. I am really sick of her. They are really over-saturating this season with all the little articles about nothing.

sandi said...

Re: Anyone else noticed that this is the third TX show with the pottery painting. Gosselins had an episode where Kate took the girls to paint, Honey Boo Boo had an episode of painting as a family activity. Now Duggars doing the same.
----------------------------------

Yes,it's the same old recycled nonsense.Apparently there is not much else to do in AR other than paint pottery and visit the dentist.But since Jenny needed glasses,they did that instead.(she looked adorable though :) )

Anonymous said...

Re: Ginger/ Anna's metro ride and playgroup...that was just for the episode and to have them SEEM accepting of public activities.
This family will never join a play group that is open to all. That is the point of homeschooling here, they don't want any of their kids around for one moment a kid who might have different beliefs than they do so as to not "soil" their own with "other ideas". Anna would never travel on a bus or a train...can you imagine her with that Cadillac of a stroller and flip flops trying to get on a city bus? No Way...their lifestyle is suited only for a rural community where none of this "real life stuff" exists.

Aimee said...

Annon. 9/19 -
I agree about the Bates. It has been refreshing to see their engagement photos with front-hugs, real affection, etc. Gil and Kelly do seem to have a lot of extra rules while the children are children but they also let them become adults!! They have jobs, they attend college, they date a bit more freely. I wish the Duggars would take note! I wonder if the Duggar kids are envious of the freedoms the Bates have been given since their show was not a success and does not air weekly. I am sure Gothard/ATI officials put pressure on the Duggars to continue promoting their rules and lifetyles. Bates Family - be happy your show was cancelled, your children have some chance at being normal and maybe even a bit happy.

Anonymous said...

I seem to be one of the few who really likes the Duggars. Altough I don't necessarily agree with their lifestyle, they mostly seem nice and genuine to me, and I think I would enjoy their company. But with that said, I have a few opinions that are not so positive:
1 - I think cousin Amy is the most obnoxious person. She is such a spaz. I cannot stand to watch her, and I don't watch any show she is on.
2 - I think Jessa has the personality of a wet blanket.
3 - The Bates family is full of creeptors. Every single one of them gives me the creeps, especially the mother and Erin. Erin's wedding kiss was so awkward and uncomfortable to watch. The voice? The hair-do? I am not a fan.

Anonymous said...

The sexist attitudes of the boys and men in this family is disgusting. I can't imagine any woman wanting to be around them. And the girls are sexist too.

Tori said...

I think the reason the Duggar parents don't allow the adult children to go anywhere alone is because they are being cautious.

These young adults could be recognized since they're on a TV show. Tontitown, Arkansas is such a small town that I bet anyone could find the Duggar home if they put their mind to it.

There are a lot of people out there who might become too interested in the family. Young women get abducted at times, and since the family is so famous now, that would be a huge concern.

I noticed a few years ago that they had to put a gate at their driveway. That indicates they've likely had some problems with unwanted curiosity seekers.

Personally, I wouldn't feel comfortable putting my family in the spotlight like they have. There are too many nut cases out there.

Ginger said...

RE my comment about Anna taking the kids to a "mommy & me," playgroup in DC. That was just my response to anonymous 9/21 @4:48am suggestion, that Anna put the kids in some type of a Christian play/group, pre/school. It was a Christian "mommy & me," group that she took them to. I agree it was for TV.

Anonymous said...

During the upcoming holiday season this is what I wish to occur when Cathy is celebrating with her boys. I can only hope that Dan Dillard and his lovely girlfriend to be arriving and leaving alone(no chaperone required), sharing front hugs & movie dates, having time alone to chat or watch TV, and just basically doing this ALL in front of JillandDerick. It's almost like I want a dose of reality (normal) to be in their face. Oh, and maybe someone will suggest going/doing something spontaneous that would not be suitable to do with a newborn in tow, again a small snippet of reality.

Anonymous said...

I thought it was funny that Michelle was so intent on getting Josie to paint a large serving platter for a gift for Jill. What would she do with it? Is she going to differ from the rest of the clan & use real dishes? We know that Anna uses styrofoam or paper plates.

Beth Anne said...

Regarding the Duggars being safety conscious now that they're famous...

I have seen evidence several times to the contrary. Some random fan who was a self-proclaimed Christian got in touch with Michelle via Facebook or some other means and through back and forth communications ended up GOING TO THEIR HOUSE and meeting a lot of the family. She posted photos and all. Michelle completely opened her home up to a stranger. And, there was talk a while back about some man being VERY interested in one of the younger twins, Jed I think, and was reaching out consistently for communication, and JimBob and Michelle were OK with it. Creepy!

Let's not forget how JimBob and Michelle walk in front, hand-in-hand in very public places without turning around to make sure all their ducks are in a row. They showed no protective instincts in places like Asia because they just assumed the sister-moms would pick up the slack and look after the younger ones.

I totally appreciate them putting up a gate, because I'm sure there have been random people looking at their property, but those parents are so hands-off and have had their egos inflated to the degree that they likely think nothing bad would ever happen to them.

Zoey said...

Anyone else notice lately Jessa walks weird. She sticks her but out but doesn't really bend her knees when walking... I noticed it a few times.

Anonymous said...

No chance that Anna would take the kids back to the playgroup that they went to on the show last year. They live in Fort Washington, MD and the playgroup place was in Arlington, Virginia. Taking the metro over there was all for the show. It would take a very long time for her to get over there. If she drove the traffic would make it long and difficult and all of the metro delays that occur on a daily basis would be prohibitive as well. That event was definitely all for the show.

Seeing them go to the farmer's market in Old Town, Alexandria, Virginia was plausible as it's much closer and on a weekend you can get over the bridge fairly easily.

Anonymous said...

Jill must have an awful lot on her mind right now. She failed to inform us that she just past the 3rd month wedding anniversary...

Anonymous said...

Re Tori: Sorry to burst your bubble, although security may be a concern for them at this point; however they have stated that NONE of their children were ever allowed to go anywhere off the property alone because they needed an accountability partner to make sure they don't sin or talk to anyone of the opposite sex. Sadly, this is nothing new for them, it's all control and strangling their kids.

Anonymous said...

Has there EVER been an episode where the word "sweet" isn't used at least six times? Jill has used that word three times in less than five minutes. How did they manage to turn the word "and" into a three syllable word "aaaannnnndd."

Anonymous said...

In the episode where Derick and Jill have James as a chaperone for their picnic, they eat hummus and figs. With a menu like this, you'd think they would be drinking white wine! You'd expect the Duggars to just pick up some Chic-Fil-A.

Stephanie said...

Two blue/green eye couples will never make Brown eyes. Someone will have to marry a brown eyed person for the Duggars to have a shot of brown eyes in the family.

Look at a pungent square of your own family its textbook in my family

Everyone carries two eye color genes, the phenotype (what we see) and the genotype) what we carry.

If you have Brown eyes you can carry Blue or green or brown the genotype. You hand one of the colors to your baby as does your spouse.

If some on is Brown and carries Brown all children will have brown eyes. BUT if both parents have brown eyes and both carry blue, its possible each parent could pass blue eyes and baby could have blue.

If you have brown eyes look at your pparents chances are one has Brown if the other has blue then you carry blue (genotype that we dont see)

If both parents have blue/green all children will have blue green like the Duggars. They are a great example. Until someone marries someone with brown eyes they grandkids will continue with blue/greenish eyes.if one marries a brown eye look at their parents and predict brown eyes secret color. We should look at the Bates because I think Kelly has Brown eyes. Im not sure about Girl but it would be a fun experiment

roddma said...

I do not see the Bates as much better than the Duggars. Alyssa quit college and afraid to work for she may get pregnant. Whitney obsessed over pregnancy tests like Anna only weeks after the wedding. Erin got pregnant soon after the wedding as well. The Bateses may do a few things different, but I find it odd none of the kids have shown signs of rebellion. They seem to be following in the parents' footsteps regarding gender roles and birth control. Gil is on the on the board of directors at IBLP.I think it is in their presentation.

sandi said...

Yes that is true about eye color.I can vouch for the fact my son has blue eyes,while mine are brown. (his dad's are blue).So I must be carrying a recessive blue gene.
Which means we are related to the Duggars,since all blue eyed ppl and their carriers have a common blue eyed ancestor.(It's ok,I don't claim them as family yet anyway,lol).

Anonymous said...

Re Stephanie: That's the punett square.

Anonymous said...

At this point, I just want to see Jessa's wedding. I don't even care about Jil's. It seems like it was so long ago.

Anonymous said...

Jessa and Ben's wedding invite-

https://www.facebook.com/Jessaandben

Anonymous said...

I feel very sad for Jordyn. Her sister mom is Jessa and she is ignored by her actual mother. Now Jessa is leaving. Who will pay any attention to her?

Haley Herring said...

I just saw the episode where Michelle makes Jackson leave while she changes Josie's diaper. Strange. And I also noticed the uneasiness Josiah has around JB.

Anonymous said...

Oh my...it really is getting worse with each new day.

I knew Jessa and Ben were registered with BBB and Amazon but based on their incredibly tacky wedding invitation (yes, the stores where they are registered are plastered across their WEDDING INVITATION) they are also registered at Target and Walmart. More tacky fake flowers and plants (what in the world is she going to do with all that ugly plastic? Is she so lazy she can't water a real plant? I hope she knows she will have to dust that tackiness), but the Walmart registry is appalling: at least 4 guns (pistols, rifles, a semiautomatic), knives, hatchets, gun carriers, ammunition, camping gear and weights for Ben.

Anonymous said...

I would like to know if the Duggar sisters changed any of their brothers' diapers? Would that be defrauding for them? We all know Michelle passed the infants forward and didn't do anything for those babies..so I wonder.

Anonymous said...

I would be completely, absolutely horrified, embarrassed and appalled if my son/daughter had the 4 or more?registries that are currently on display. Surely, the Seewald parents should have a better understanding perhaps to what is acceptable etiquette. They are not a wealthy family and I would imagine they would not purchase a large and costly item for weddings that they attend. What has Bin/Jessa been spending their own pocket money on anyway, besides nail polish, makeup and phones? They just returned recently from a mission trip. Were they not saddened and humbled by the poverty and the living conditions there? You would think that a mission trip also greatly affects those that participate and would be a reflection even after they return home. I have a inclination however that they both were too wrapped up with each other to notice or feel empathy for those they were to minister to.

capslock said...

Did anyone see The Talk? ME-chelle has come out to say how she is always available for sex with Jim Bob and this is how she keeps her marriage alive...marriage advice for all of us.

I find it appalling that the 19 have to wear modest clothes, only give side hugs, and be all about purity BUT Michelle explicitly comments on her sex life?

Where's the MODESTY there?!?! It's so backwards and baffling I can't stand it.

Rudy Tecat said...

I haven't been to any of the registries, facebook pages, websites for the Jessa/Ben wedding or the Babby Dilly... but is there a spot to donate money to those orphans in Central America instead of sending a gift to the TV personalities in Arkansas? It would be nice if they'd do that. You know, the girls get so emotional about the orphans down there. The orphans are soooooo very important to them. Maybe Baby Dilly would like an instant Spanish-speaking sibling.

Haley Herring said...

Omg, they just want all of us embeciles to work for them. They'll leave getting educated up to those of us not worthy of just acquiring "skills." Although they'll never seek my services (speech therapy). And they want female professionals! Ugh!

Anonymous said...

Rudy, you made me laugh out loud.
I feel sorry for those orphans when Jessa is the one "interacting " with them.

Coleen said...

The fans are buying the Duggar brides wedding gifts.

http://www.eonline.com/news/582468/jessa-duggar-sends-handwritten-thank-you-note-to-fan-visits-creation-museum-with-fiance

Anonymous said...

Anyone catch Jessa's Instagram post on visiting the holocaust museum in DC? Her it is for your reading enjoyment. Yes, she seriously used the holocaust to promote evolution and slam abortion! Here it is!

I walked through the Holocaust Museum again today... very sobering. Millions of innocents denied the most basic and fundamental of all rights--their right to life. One human destroying the life of another deemed "less than human." Racism, stemming from the evolutionary idea that man came from something less than human; that some people groups are "more evolved" and others "less evolved." A denying that our Creator--GOD--made us human from the beginning, all of ONE BLOOD and ONE RACE, descendants of Adam. The belief that some human beings are "not fit to live." So they're murdered. Slaughtered. Kids with Down syndrome or other disabilities. The sickly. The elderly. The sanctity of human life varies not in sickness or health, poverty or wealth, elderly or pre-born, little or lots of melanin [making you darker or lighter skinned], or any other factor. "If thou faint in the day of adversity, thy strength is small. If thou forbear to deliver them that are drawn unto death, and those that are ready to be slain; If thou sayest, Behold, we knew it not; doth not He that pondereth the heart consider it? and He that keepeth thy soul, doth not He know it? and shall not He render to every man according to his works?" (Proverbs 24:10-12) May we never sit idly by and allow such an atrocity to happen again. Not this generation. We must be a voice for those who cannot speak up for themselves. Because EVERY LIFE IS PRECIOUS. #ProLife

Anonymous said...

The BB&B registry is pretty bad. They are expecting people to furnish their home? Really? Bed, dressers, night stands, shelves, ottomans. None of that high priced stuff has been purchased yet and I really really hope no one does. Buy your own furniture! You will have plenty of money from TLC and all the magazine interviews. Not to mention all the monetary gifts I'm sure you will be getting on your wedding day. I bet from just one wedding they will end up with at least $20,000 in gifts, gift cards, and cash. Not to mention exclusive interview and TLC money. It's like a Kardashian wedding!the other girls better get courting before America gets bored.

Anonymous said...

Nothing against the Duggars, but if I were on a hit reality show I wouldn't have a public registry to encourage fans to buy things for me and mine. (Jill's baby registry http://www.amazon.com/gp/baby-reg/ref=sr_1_1_acs_br_1?ie=UTF8&lid=10RHNAUTU78V1 ) Many of their fans may not have money to spend but feel an obligation because the show is seen by many as a ministry. An unexpected gift would be a nice surprise, like when a fan sent newborn Josie a receiving quilt. I think it would be nice if Jill set up a public baby registry for a women's shelter and then had a private registry for family and close friends.

Coleen said...

Is Cousin Amy still in Nashville?

Anonymous said...

Anyone notice on Michelle's facebook/like page there they are visiting the Ruarks. I have repeatedly asked this family what is up with her relationship with the Ruarks...no response.
Finally, here it is, "look at us visiting my family". I can't imagine that they have a real relationship with them since their belief system doesn't include interacting with the 'different minded'.

Anonymous said...

Question. So all of the kids have to CC their parents in their texts with their significant others right? I know on an iPhone if you are in a text or iMessage convo with more than one person, at the top it lists all of the people in the conversation. However, Jessa has posted a pic on her Instagram of her and Ben's conversation and it only lists Ben. Does anyone know how this works?

Anonymous said...

What do the Duggar girls wear to bed at night?

Anonymous said...

RE: Anonymous9/30 @5:43am the question about what do the Duggar girls wear to bed at night? In a recent episode, when the girls were packing to go to DC to look for the wedding dress, Jessa asked Jill if she remembered to pack her pajamas. I was surprised at that, as I remember a long time go Michelle said they wore jean skirts to bed at night (I can't believe I even wrote that) but I remember that's what Michelle said. Of course she may not have a clue about what they wear at night.

Anonymous said...

So, jessa is going off about how evoloution caused the holocaust. I'd love for her to actually sit down with scientists and historians (not just "Christian" ones) and see if they could give her an actual education on the topic. The more I watch these people, th more disgusted I am by their antics and beliefs.


http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/09/reality-tv-star-jessa-duggar-blames-the-holocaust-on-the-theory-of-evolution/

Anonymous said...

For all the talk of modesty, it's interesting that the Duggar girls' skirts are getting shorter and more form fitting. Not exactly leaving much to the imagination.

Amy said...

I've worried about this also.

Amy said...

They didn't go to "real" college though. They went to unaccredited fundamentalist bible college. Those degrees are worth nothing outside of ministry within fundamentalist groups and the rules for behavior for students are probably as strict if not more strict than the Bates or Duggars' own household rules for behavior. (Speaking as one who personally knows people who attended Bob Jones and who also went to a real, accredited Christian college for undergrad

Anonymous said...

Actually the college Gil and Kelly attended was and is a real college and accredited.