Tuesday, September 2, 2014, 9 PM, Duggars & Mothers

Jill Duggar is getting married! And with the wedding only a few short months away, the first Duggar daughter to get married is diving right into planning this Duggar-sized event.

60 minutes

Big numbers:  3.293 M viewers and 1.4 rating.  It was the top cable show of the evening.

123 comments:

Quiana said...

UGH! 4 1/2 months dating then 3 month engagement, then pregnant after 2 months. Her life is already planned for her. I thought Derrick would her her see the world & open her eyes to new things. But sadly not. :/ I can't watch this.

Allison said...

She was pregnant after TWO WEEKS.

Anonymous said...

I wish these people would use some different adjectives. Everything is "sweet" and "special" or "really fun." Somehow I doubt that.

geistmadl said...

There is an awful lot of trying to make this courtship thing normal. Ben thinking that Jessa's a good decorator? And this is just way too nuts with him working for Jim Boob. Michelle going on and on about how exciting her life is.... when you can tell she is not experienced really enjoying others happiness. This is not going to bode well. I think that Ben will go down the same road as Josh. Riding on the coat tails of someone or something to get a job.

Allison said...

That look on James' face? The best thing out of the entire TV show. I'm talking about every episode ever. That was priceless.

The episode timeline was bizarre. It clearly started right around the end of March/beginning April, then jumped forward to mid-May for Mother's Day, and then went backward to Anna and Josh leaving (because they said they had just been on the book tour), and then forward again to whenever it is that Ben moved into the house.

I actually liked that Jill and Derick weren't really the focus of the whole show. In fact, they talked an awful lot about Jessa and Ben! And they kind of explained why Cindy was sick for the wedding, because it looks like they found out she had cancer after they had already set the date.

It'll be interesting to see how they decide on elements of the wedding, though. One thing that caught my attention was the fact that Jill said the invite list was 1,000-1,500 and that was about half what the media was reporting. So I'm wondering if maybe they actually had less people at their wedding than was reported.

Those were the main things I noticed. Oh! And Jessa referred to Ben as her "boyfriend." How progressive.

Patti said...

Michelle suggests Jill & Jessa do all the cooking -- what a great job delegating tasks to the sister-moms. Maybe there is a lot of editing & behind the scenes but it looks like the older Duggar daughters did most of the work cleaning out & preparing the guest house (aka storage shed) for Ben. Seems like Jana spearheaded the whole plan and Jill coaxed the little girls with decorating posters to welcome Ben. I don't think I saw Michelle anywhere in this episode other than the "talking heads" sections and standing at the door welcoming their dinner guests.

Why do the newlyweds need such a huge house? They are getting set up for staying there and settling down with lots of room to raise a family. Of course, we already know there is one (maybe two) on the way. The Duggars are setting up a precedent of offering their married kids a house in Duggarville to keep them from straying too far from their web of influence. So much for "leave & cleave". That only applies to the in-laws marrying into the family. It must be nice for Josh to have the free time from work to drive from DC to Arkansas with Anna & the kids. Lots of awkward non-affectionate side hugs when Josh & family left.

As suspected, the wedding planner is a family friend that Jill works for -- so I guess that means she is not a wedding planner by career. How is it possible for a girl in her 20s not to know how much effort it takes to plan a wedding? I know they are very sheltered, but they know some girls (like Anna, Priscilla, Erin, Whitney & Alyssa) who planned weddings recently. I can't imagine only having 3 months to pull off a wedding for 1,000 guests -- I guess that huge number includes inviting all the kids from these large families they know. It cuts down costs considerably to have the reception as adults only. Personally, I was feeling rushed with 6 months to plan my wedding with 150 guests.

Jessa says cooking is "exciting" but her eyes and fake smile tell a different story. She has absolutely no clue what she is doing in the kitchen and very soon she will be a married woman responsible for preparing her adoring husband's meals. I don't think Jessa & Ben are a good match at all. Ben seems in awe of JB and is willing to do any menial task assigned to him.

Anonymous said...

Well it was Mother's Day so in all fairness, in regards to the above comment, Michele should not have to cook!

Wednesday said...

Saw them throw a brand new Ariat boot box when they were cleaning the guest room. Not cheap.

Anonymous said...

I was watching the show and saw a boy stealing some salad. I'm not sure who it was but it seemed bizarre to me that if they are supposed to be so godly, that one of them was stealing!

Special Ed Lady said...

Ben is living in a storage place, with no windows. This is Arkansas, in the summer. Really how is that going to work.

auntliddy said...

Ben wants tobe jimbob soooo bad. Talk like him and starting to have jimbobs hairdo! And whats the deal with guest house being full with other guests? Like who? Illegals? And thats a corregated hut, not a house. I think jn moved Ben in there to accelerate the courtship to marriage. Working for jombon! Lol. And whats with joyanna morphing into looking like a woman who cooks on a tugboat? She's all toughed up, driving the golf cart, pointing out random trees to cut down. Then shes all into chaperoning jessa and ben, like a character im book 1984.
And as mentioned, michele has nothing to do, just flits thru house

Anonymous said...

Did anyone else notice the look on Anna's face when JB said he was letting jill and Derrick move into that house? I felt pretty bad for her actually- she was stuck in that tiny house with her husband and three kids for years, and now she gets to clean out a mini-mansion for jill? I'd be a little pissed too.

Anonymous said...

Jessa had been enegaed for a while it was mention in the show by Jessa herself. so I am suuming they were engaed around mothers day.

Anonymous said...

Anyone else see that when Josh & Anna left Jordyn & Mack did a side hug. I couldn't believe 2 little girls that age doing a side hug after saying how much they were going to miss each other.

Anonymous said...

Re: Allison's comment. I believe Jill said 1,000 invitations. Not every individual gets their own invitation. I believe a couple would just get one invitation for the 2 of them. Also many people send an invitation with an invite for an escort, or sometimes worded "plus." Didn't seem to me like that woman was a professional wedding planner.

Anonymous said...

I had high hopes for Derrick and his family, but when Jessa and the camera crew went into her hospital room, they were dashed. I know they were wearing masks, but was it necessary for them to go into her room when her immune system was so compromised. If that were my mom, I would have put my foot down.

I had been wondering about Jill's house after seeing some of the pictures on social media, seemed way too nice for a couple that registered for cereal. Nice how Anna left her family to be under Josh's authority, but the sons-in-law leave their family to be under Jim Bob's authority.

Jillian said...

Why were the girls cleaning Jill and derricks house and the shed in bare feet and flip flops!? That is so not safe!

Anonymous said...

I have a new favorite Duggar - JOY! The highlight of that snoozefest was watching Joy drive Ben around the property in a golf cart while she gave him work orders. Then, her comment about charging for chaperoning Jessa and Ben "unless the relationship fizzles out;" and the best yet was during the awful "we love you Mom" Mother's Day messages when Joy was sitting with Jana and Jana said "my Mom is very kind." OMG, the expression on Joy's face is priceless (I had to rewind and watch it several times)...Joy is awesome and hilarious. She does need to be careful or she will be shipped away like Josiah (my heart aches for him) and have all personality and independent thought drilled out of her.

b0red_n0w said...

The seething resentment and envy in the eyes and voices of all the other children at the house Jill is being given was absolutely priceless.
Josh in particular looked like he might turn green and burst. Actually, even I found myself resenting Jill and it's not like I even know her or anything.
You can't tell me JimBob really wants to sell that house.

Anonymous said...

Wow! That house is absolutely gorgeous, I would love to have that house. I did detect a little bit of jealousy from Josh and Anna, even though they said they were happy for them. I guess being a daughter in the Duggar clan is better than being a son.

Anonymous said...

Could Jessa have seemed any more unhappy during the conversation with Jim Bob asking Ben if he would like to move there and live in the guest house? She just looked so uncomfortable and unhappy. She either isn't into him like her dad wants her to be or maybe she would rather have some privacy.

Unknown said...

I loved Jana and her snark this episode. I think she is finally starting to get fed up with her life and she is rebelling in the only way she knows. The comment about "most married couples don't get a mansion" was priceless. I also loved when she said Joy had found a dead mouse in Bens love shack.
I think josh and Jana and Jessa were jealous of jills house....anyone see Josh's face when JR told them he gave the house to Jill?!

Honey said...

Jim Bob has missed an extremely important life lesson. Treat all your children equally. If one gets $10K for a wedding, they all get $10K for a wedding or wedding gift. If one gets a two bedroom house, then no one gets a six bedroom house. He's going on whim and whimsy or who he likes or which spouse he likes and he's already breeding resentment.

Betty said...

Just remember it was FAKE mother's day. They do not film the holidays on the holidays. The crew gets to have them with their own families so they pick a random day and call it whatever holiday.

Jim Bob said Jill and Derick can live in the house until he sells it. They weren't gifted the house. He still owns it.

Anonymous said...

About the house -Jimnbob did not own the home when Josh and Anna first got married and he did say that they he has been working on it for 2 years. He also said that they willl be house -sitting until they sell so my impression was that he was not giving it to them.

Anonymous said...

Quiana, you are so right , I thought Derrick whould do just that and Dad Duggar has them staying a rental house and Michelle has that jusnd have Ben come anf live in the guess house fine but not parents can do that for there kids and Ben move in ther guess house and work for JIMbob

Anonymous said...

At the end of the episode you do see the other family they were hosting in the guest house. You can see a banner hanging up to welcome them. I will go out on a limb and say they were not "illegals ".

Anonymous said...

I just wonder if the lasagan was frozen , i know the rolls where frozen and the berrys and salad out of a bag , good job Michelle that a home cooked meal , NOW I make homemade lasagan i think i spell lasagan wrong but i make it all homemade even the rolls , berrs not so much but salad maybee if I'm lazy after cooking

Murphy said...

They're trying really hard to "sell" Ben and Jessa's relationship to us--because getting married RIGHT NOW just doesn't make sense. (i.e. he doesn't have a job and is living in the back of the warehouse)

But with Jill and Derrick, because Derrick was older and has a real job--they didn't have to bombard us with tons of crap about him.
Also-if it wasn't obvious before--it sure is now. When you're the favorite daughter/fundy parrot--you get to get married first and live in a "mansion"!

I did get a laugh out of what Anna said about not wanting to stay over with newlyweds, lol

Anonymous said...

What kind of a son spends Mothers Day with his in laws and there multitudes of guests and children, and not with his own mother who has cancer and may not be here next year?? Does JB have so much influence over him that he neglects his own mother? This is so sad to me. While she may be better now, that does not mean she will be in the future.

Tammy C said...

I am glad I wasn't the only one who noticed Joy and her facial expressions. I did think going barefoot to clean the room was horrifying.My question is:where does Ben shower and use the bathroom.I hope there is one in that building and we didn't notice.

capslock said...

I don't know if I can watch anymore - Jim Bob now controls everything.

Ben is in quite a position - if he didn't move in to be JB's slave, he would lose his relationship with Jessa, and JB would make sure of that.

I had hopes of these girls getting married and then finding themselves - developing their own path as a married couple, making their own choices, etc.

This will never happen. Jim Boob has his compound and every man who wants to marry a Duggar will now have to sell his soul, get caught in Boob's Web, and forever be in debt and gratitude to the Almighty Boob.

Josh didn't have to move to FL to be with Anna and her family 24/7 but all the guys interested in a Duggar has to give up his life, education and future of what he MAY want out of life to be under the Duggar regime.

I'm sick.

Anonymous said...

I think someone (Joy) said they did.not own the big house when Josh and Anna got married, but didn't he get the car dealership right? He had no income and Derik has a good corporate job at Walmart -maybe that explains the situation.

Anonymous said...

It seemes like a set-up for Josh to move back and "buy" the house. There was an awful lot of talk about the kids missing cousins, the focus on supposedly envious faces, etc.. Just first thing that struck me with the targeted comments and expressions.

Allison said...

"Why do the newlyweds need such a huge house?"

Jill and Derick don't NEED a new house... they are getting it because, like Josh and Anna's house, it's something Jim Bob and Michelle already own. So they are going to live there. They were even saying how it was too big and just temporary.

"Michelle suggests Jill & Jessa do all the cooking -- what a great job delegating tasks to the sister-moms."

This time it makes sense... it was Mother's Day. And their respective in-laws were visiting, so they were going to do more of the cooking to "impress them.

"Jessa says cooking is "exciting" but her eyes and fake smile tell a different story."

This was a joke. Jessa is quite open that she doesn't like cooking. The "exciting" comment was from the fact she regularly burns things.

Anonymous said...

Jim Bob's true colors shine through yet again. He controls and owns everything. Those kids will never own a thing of value. The latest being JD's plane, being purchased under a fictious company called DuggarAviation LLC , another money making business adventure for Jim Bob. Then, Jill's house can be sold whenever Jim Bob wants. Also, Josh's car lot was owned by Jim Bob and I think sold when his family moved to D.C.
I am sorry but those children deserve rpto rightfully own SOMETHING nice for raking in the ratings all these years. So basically, Jim Bob gets all the profits from ALL those shows and gets to "buy" the kids businesses/houses but still retain ownership of everything? Do they ever really get anything for being on TV and letting the public into their personal lives or does just Jim Bob benefit from selling out their lives?

hello said...

I believe Jimboob letting Jill snd Derick live in the house is his way of keeping control over them. Derick went to a real college, has a real job and went on missions by himself. He has had more independence than all the Duggar kids put together. I believe Jimboob offered them the house so that Derick wouldn't even think about moving Jill away from the family. They had no problem with Anna having to move from Florida to Arkansas after she married Josh, but they don't want any of their daughters moving away with their husbands when they get married. Josh and Anna were beyond jealous when they were told Jill and Derick were getting the hoise. They mentioned a few times how they livedbin a 960 square foot house when they first got married and then had 3 kids there.

Betty said...

What kind of a son spends Mothers Day with his in laws and there multitudes of guests and children, and not with his own mother who has cancer and may not be here next year??

I say again, it wasn't filmed on Mother's Day. These reality shows are almost never filmed on the days that they claim to be. The exceptions will be things like the weddings. They can't recreate those easily. "Mother's Day" was an episode to them and was filmed whatever day worked out.

Jill L said...

Betty I agree - especially when she shouldn't be around germs. Small.kids are notorious germ spreaders. I would imagine Derrick and his btother spent time with her in her own home for the actual day.

Anonymous said...

Jill and Jessa remind me of a little kid with a Toys R Us catalog, asking Santa for everything that looks cool, with no concept of reality. Most children grow up. Jill and Jessa's growth has been stunted. So sad.

Allison said...

At the end of the episode you do see the other family they were hosting in the guest house. You can see a banner hanging up to welcome them. I will go out on a limb and say they were not "illegals ".


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The sign was for that Hartanos (sp?) which is the Indonesian brother and sister that visit the Duggars on a regular basis. They go to school somewhere in the States and visit for holidays and things like that. So definitely not illegal. And not even anyone knew. It makes sense, actually, that they would create some bedrooms for the siblings because they're at the Duggars so often. But I'm not sure why they didn't just come out and say that's who was staying there. That was a little strange.

Anonymous said...

I think pretty much everything that goes down with this family is directly related to the family business which is TLC. Including courtship moves, house juggling, etc. I expect at some point that the employment at Walmart will end and that he will also be working for JB. I can't imagine how accommodating a regular employer would be to the filming expectations, unless Walmart sees it as good publicity. Not like they don't already have issues with employees, let alone allowing special privileges for one employee.

Anonymous said...

I'm surprised Jim Bob and Michelle don't "encourage" their married children to build homes on the family property, thus turning it into a compound where Jim Bob and Michelle can retain control of their children/grandchildren.

And did anyone else notice that Grandma Duggar was also at the rental property when Jim Bob and the kids were cleaning? That poor woman has enough to do!

auntliddy said...

Caps, lets be frank, ben's not giving up anything! He had no job, he isnt in school, doesnt have his own place. I cant imagine how he thinks he is going to support a wife. I think jimbob realizes if he doesnt get this kid working, jessa will be marrying a do nothing. Wait! She is!

auntliddy said...

Anon, i was exaggerating, but who invites people to stay in an industrial garage? I mean there is cheap and there is cheap!

auntliddy said...

Honey, its pretty obvious jill is a daddys girl and mb jb has more feeling for her.

auntliddy said...

Anon, why do you think they shipped josiah away? What did he do? Poor kid! And joyanna is becomming quite the zealot!

Anonymous said...

I agree with whoever commented on James' eye roll at the end of the episode. THAT was worth the $1.99 I paid Amazon to see it.

Anonymous said...

Sorry to hear that mothers' day was a scripted episode...How is that reality? I don't want to watch a semi-real/fake show. Wasn't that a little like Ozzie and Harriet? Those were their real names, their kids too, but they had fictional situations and they were scripted. Like the Duggars.

Anonymous said...

The looks on the women's faces when Derick suggested a salsa fountain and then Jason in the TH saying that Derick should be 5% active and 95% agreeable. Excuse me Jason but he is marrying your sister and he can have input. It's a Duggar/Dillard wedding not just Duggar. He sounds like he may very well be a Smuggar too. I love Joy Anna....driving Ben around the compound telling him what jobs he will be doing and then saying that her parents didn't own the mansion when Josh and Anna got married and that it was their fault that they didn't wait. I'm happy Jill and Derick got the big house. Even if they are staying there until it sells. Who knows, if they are paying a reduced rent now they may be able to buy it for themselves later. I'd rather them live there than at the compound.

mythoughtis said...

I find myself being really, really annoyed at the way Derick's step-father is being treated. He may very well have asked not to be filmed any more than necessary, but Derick and Jill, and the rest of the Duggars go out of their way to pretend he doesn't exist. The video-conference so that they could see Mom, but never even mentioned Ronnie. The man seems to be the one spending most of his time at the hospital with Cathy (the visit to the room, the fact that he stayed with her rather than attend the wedding rehearsal. It's almost like only the biological parent is worthy of being treated with respect. I don't believe the Bible says to ignore your step-parents that way.

Shells said...

Hi! I really WANT to like this family, but I'm so disturbed by me the patriarchy and sexism. It seems like Jill truly cares for Derick (thank goodness) and I do hope Derick can get out of the Jim Bob web of control to offer her a bigger life. Derick's family and friends can maybe balance that out for them. But Jessa? She's settling for the first guy that's expected of her. I was frustrated when the boy Ben thought it was his personal paradise to see Jessa cooking for him in the kitchen. Yeah, good set up for you Ben. Clearly Jim Bob moved him to push the relationship, because as it was going it would have run its course and (as one of the girls said) fizzled. Poor Jessa.

Shells said...

Re the comments re the other kids' jealousy re the mansion, their particular religious movement doesn't allow the kids to be anything but cheerful. It's drilled into them that to be anything but cheerful is to be disobedient to their parents and to God. So plaster on that smile and repress other emotions. It's totally not in the Bible - it's misinformation from Gothard, his home school system. Hope the Duggars can wise up to that, have an a-ha moment and change some of how they treat their kids, for the younger kids health and benefit.

pretty girl said...

we need to get one thing straight here. jessa was engaged before it was annouced. someone said it on the show last night. also. Ben is living in a storage shed not a guest house. a guest house has a kitchen and a bathroom. not one room with no windows. and did you see how fast his father agreed to let him move. I would had said no. Ben had a Job and was going to school. So he did not need a job.

mom in texas said...

As I earlier suspected, Jim Bob does everything in the name of control. He needs to have ultimate control over everything his 19 "blessings" do. Yes, Josh and Anna were salty when they were invited over to see the McMansion that Jill and Derrick were "gifted". Josh and Anna were being punished for rebelling against the rules and moving to D.C. It was Jim Bob saying "See all of this could have been yours had you and Anna not chosen to move thousands of miles away." Jill has always been the Golden Girl who bought into Momma and Daddy' rubbish, hook, line, and sinker. Of course she and her new hubby will be given the huge home instead of the 960 square foot cottage. They need to have plenty of room to fill it with all the babies Jill will have every 13 months.

As others have said, Ben moving to live on the property is
1) another control move by Jim Bob and 2)a way for Jim Bob to move the courtship along faster. Jessa looked so uncomfortable at the table, in front of guests, having the conversation (which I am sure was staged) about Ben moving into the guest shed. I really don't think Ben has any idea what he is getting himself into. Honestly I think he is just hot for Jessa and will do just about anything to get the girl. It seems like his parents would have a bit more discernment and notice the red flags, however, Ben's father strikes me as an opportunist who sees Ben's marriage to Jessa as hitting the fundie jackpot. He probably sees the union as his ticket into a higher standing amongst the Gothard sect.

Anonymous said...

I agree with "Betty". Yes, Derick should have spent Mother's Day with his own ailing mother. The Duggars did NOT need him to be one more in the crowd. Michelle isn't his mother nor is she Daniel's mother. I would have rather have seen Derick's small family interact with each other even for a short time.
Also, doesn't Michelle realize that she has a mother in Mary Duggar? What did SHE do for her on that day? Oh, yes, Grandma was let out of the laundry room for a few moments to eat frozen lasagna, pre-made rolls and salad. Some dinner cooks they are.

Rudy Tecat said...

So, Ben is going to stay in a metal-clad warehouse with no windows in Arkansas in the summer? I think that might be more of a punishment than a perk.

taurus0385 said...

Why couldn't Ben stay in the boys room or another room in the house instead of staying in a shed with nothing.

Diana. in Maryland. said...

Perhaps we're looking at this Jessa/Ben situation the wrong way. Jessa and Ben entered into courtship before Jill and Derick, sure. But the vibe has always been that Ben and Jessa don't really fit together. So MAYBE, just maybe, Jim Bob has seen this and has spent a lot of time trying to get them to be more compatible, rather than admit his choice of Ben was WRONG... and scrapping the whole relationship early on. Why JB should have any input into a 22 year old daughter's relationship, I do not know, but God forbid he be wrong about it, and Jessa "lose a piece of her heart?"

Anonymous said...

Sorry to hear that mothers' day was a scripted episode...How is that reality? I don't want to watch a semi-real/fake show. Wasn't that a little like Ozzie and Harriet? Those were their real names, their kids too, but they had fictional situations and they were scripted.
Sorry to disillusion anyone, not really, but all reality shows have hired writers. If it were true reality they wouldn't need writers. It's all set up and planned. Some of it is purely staged and some is merely set up. Those young men no more came up with those "proposals" completely on their own than I'm Elvis. It had to be something vetted by production as able to be filmed and with the requisite drama. There are photos of the practice for Jill's the day before with Michelle as stand-in. There are photos of Jinger and Jessa just standing around waiting for the next shoot to begin. The Duggars are really in front of the camera saying those words. Jill and Jessa really got engaged (sometime). That's about all you can take as reality.

Anonymous said...

I think Derick's mom agreed to be filmed. People were wondering what type of cancer she had, how she was being treated and how she was doing. This was a time she got to explain it. She is a lovely person and I really like her. I saw Derick wiping tears from his eyes. He wished that he could give her a hug but couldn't get too close. I loved it when she told them they could touch her toes though, which Jill and Derick did while they prayed. Whether Mother's Day was filmed on the actual day or not, I am sure Derick and Dan did spend time with her on that day.

Anonymous said...

I'm not sure why some people still think that "reality" shows are actually real, or don't understand that episodes are filmed months ahead. Nothing is filmed on an actual holiday, every situation is at least set-up and often planned, or else it could make for boring tv that no one will watch and then no $$$.

I'm sure that the whole Ben-moving thing was for filming purposes because that is the hook to get viewers this time around - wedding, courtship, etc. It would be difficult to make that relationship a major focus of the show to draw viewers if he's 3-4 hours away. He doesn't really need a job because TLC is his job now.

TLC is the family business, and Ben and, yes, Derick have simply become part of the business. It might be JB's control, but what he is controlling is setting up his family for income opportunity through TV. He might come across as dumbhead on the show sometimes, but in reality he is clearly a savvy businessman and taking advantage while it lasts.

Anonymous said...

I did not see anything wrong with Ben washing windows and going to school. He's figuring out his life like most guys going to college.

Why should he be uprooted to live in the Duggar jail?

I know several young married couples who started out living in an apartment and working jobs while finding their way. I would much rather see that life for Jessa & Ben with some freedom and choices than what is going on now!

Anonymous said...

Pa Seewald must be kicking himself for encouraging Ben to make the move. He wrote a blog on the Seewald website titled "Marrying Young" that took indrect jabs at Jimboob.

Betty said: I say again, it wasn't filmed on Mother's Day. These reality shows are almost never filmed on the days that they claim to be. The exceptions will be things like the weddings. They can't recreate those easily. "Mother's Day" was an episode to them and was filmed whatever day worked out.

I agree with Betty. Just because Derick and Jill (including Dan and Chelsea) was shown at the Duggars for "Mother's Day" does not mean that they didn't visit their mom on that day. Cathy was battling cancer and I don't think the the boys would ignore her.

Anonymous said...

Duggar jail...ROFL!!
He gets work release when the JWarden and howlers come up with a job for him. Otherwise he is kept in that dungeon that his dear beloved decorated for him. He is sitting and waiting and waiting for King Jim Bob to approve of a date so he can marry Princess Jessa and move around the compound more freely.

Anonymous said...

Ben is living in the Duggar Dungeon until he can prove himself to dear old JB. Poor kid doesn't even have a window to climb out of to sneek down and see Jessa on the compound. JB probably locks that door from the outside, double bolted.

Anonymous said...

Did anyone notice that Derrick's brother showed up at the duggars with his girlfriend but without a chaperone?? And I believe he actually called her his girlfriend - never heard the duggars refer to someone as a boyfriend or girlfriend? Maybe there's still some hope!

tater tot said...

I think Jimboob ought to GIVE that house to Jill...She has worked for years cooking, cleaning and rearing her "buddies". Now when and if Jana marries her home should be double the size of Jill's as she is the main slave of Jimboob and Mean Michelle...so i hope they get Ben a hoppin' and make that Mcmansion for Jana. (FREE JANA)

Anonymous said...

Michelle wrote on the official Duggar website blog, that as the older girls get married, JimBob is "handing them over" to their husbands.

I'm truly nauseated by that statement. His daughters are not "property" like a car title, to be "handed over".

Look up the word narcissism in the dictionary and you'll see JimBob's picture. He truly does think his way is the only way.

Betty said...

I haven't attended a wedding where the father "gave away" the bride in decades. It's considered archaic where I live and it isn't in the ceremony at our church.

Jill L said...

Ben wasn't "washing windows ". He worked at a windshield repair shop where his dad works. Online classes are vrry ommon now. I attend a large CA state school and we have online classes. Also that house is not a mansion - big yes - mansion no. Josh and Anna's house was a crackerjack box!

Katie's Mom said...

Have I been missing something all along with the Duggars? In the seasons 1st episode, there was a great deal of talk about the, "Duggar Guest House." Even Josh & Anna said they were going to be staying there. I have never heard anyone mention a "Guest House," before on the Duggar property. Did I miss this somewhere along the line? I always saw the brother & sister that sometimes stay with the Duggars, the Hartoonens (sp) in the Duggar house, but not a "guest house. I know I've seen the "Hartoonen," girl (sorry about the sp)in the girls bedroom when she was visiting. Where & when did the guest house come from? We were always told that when they had company, the boys slept in the bus. This is getting crazier & crazier. I feel like Alice through the looking glass.

Anonymous said...

I watched the rerun of when Anna cooked dinner for the family and had to borrow large pots and pans from Michelle. I am going to assume then that their registry was not as extensive as Jill and Jessa's.

Beth Anne said...

OK, I just caught part of this re-run (because I can't stomach watching the whole thing in real time) and was completely horrified by the entire James splinter event. We know the Duggars are not safety-oriented, as evidenced by the girls walking around an unclean, still-under-construction site with skirts and flip flops on, but James did not just have a splinter through his finger - it was like a 4x4! Good grief, he looked like he was impaled or something. And, being ever so sanitary and safety-oriented, JimBob was trying to cut it off or something, no clean water running over the impaled area, and, of course, no immediate application of hydrogen peroxide or anything after the fact. I understand that they might not have such supplies stocked in an unready house, but at least rinse the darn area with some water or, better yet, have a first aid kit with you if you are going to assign young children jobs that present safety hazards!

no name said...

Annas face when she saw the splinter was priceless. I am glad that one of the girls took charge of the situation. Why would you cut the skin with a pocket knife. Get some tweezers or something else but not a pocket knife.

Anonymous said...

They are not online classes to the school he went to. They are unaccredited.

I can't watch I can only read about it. It is clear none of the kids have had anything put aside from the money from the show. Further I wonder if they signed their rights to say anything negative away when they turned 18. And before given the permission to court and get out, in a way get out? They should have tens of thousands between work and the show money and the magazine money to put toward a house and have a mortgage way less than rent. Not to mention the years unschooling at 16 until marriage to earn money. Or were they just working on dad's projects getting nothing but splinters? I think he can't get what he wants for the house so is sitting on it cause it didn't sell. I hope they get a modest place and get the heck out of there as soon as they find a place and please let it be no where the family property.

28cbabba-3580-11e4-a411-2bf9d49ade27 said...

I, too, enjoyed watching Joy this episode! She is a hoot! Also, concerning the house-Josh did get to run the dealership when he first got married. I cant begrudge JB for offering up to help the current newlyweds whatever assets he happens to have available at the current time. I read somewhere he paid around $90,000 for that house--hardly mansion priced.

Anonymous said...

Re: Anna's "cooking dinner" for the Duggars:
I didn't think that was too impressive at all. When I want to cook for the family, I don't borrow pots and pans from them and I certainly don't "borrow sisters-in-law" to come over and help me shop, cook, serve, and clean up. How is that cooking for your in laws? Jana did all the real cooking. If you aren't equipped to do it, don't do it, or have just Michelle and Jim Bob over and have a real dinner with them, then maybe some of the older ones and have a nice social evening together; maybe at that time, Jinger and on up.

kms said...

The house was a foreclosure, it was pretty beat up with squatters. In fact they showed the kids working on the property to clean it when it got bought and Michelle mentioned it might be sold or a house for josh and anna. The kids should have been in school instead of cleaning up broken glass and pee stained rugs. They put money into the house and between that and the location is has a million dollar value. Or maybe not since he didn't manage to sell it.

Anonymous said...

The house isn't a million dollar house. The million dollar parcel is the 20 or so acres surrounding the house. It obviously wasn't worth that either as it didn't sell. Some people have looked into the real estate and says the 20 acres is bank owned.

Anonymous said...

can someone please tell me what the duggar guest house is?

Special Ed Lady said...

The guest house, is the storage building, somewhere on the property. It did not look like it has plumbing, windows or much else. It must be a violation of the fire code. It would be up here in Ohio.

Anonymous said...

Even though Jim Bob wears an innocent face on camera when he speaks, I suspect that off camera a lot happens that's calculated by him. I wouldn't be surprised if Jim Bob told Ben's parents no re. an engagement until he got Ben working for him and control of his future. Because they want their immature child to marry Jessa as soon as possible (per their blog), Ben's parents had to say yes to Ben moving into the bedroom on Duggar property.

Jim Bob repeats that his family has to have a chance to get to know the future husband really well. No, they don't. All that is "normally" determined by the couple as their relationship develops, and if they're mature and independent as people who are getting married should be, the family will get to know the fiance just fine all in good time. To take complete control of the couple's relationship, which is what Jim Bob does, is extremely rude at best and an intrusion of personal privacy at worst. It certainly doesn't allow them to grow up. Jessa did look thrilled at spending more time with her "boyfriend" along with looking powerless, childlike, and not ready to be step into an adult role alongside her parents (not allowed).

I suspect that if the other set of parents laid down the law that they wouldn't approve an engagement unless the Duggar child left home and moved in with them, Jim Bob and Michelle would be incredulous at such audacity.

I would be so disowned by all my wonderful kids and in-laws if I acted like Michelle or Jim Bob regarding their relationships which I see as disrespectful, suspicious, controlling, micro-managing, morally superior, inflexible, the list goes on.

kms said...

I think that many people in that house for dinner made her a saint to handle them all at once. We know what a pain Jim Bob is when it comes to food. Remember when they showed up a day early and gave her five hours to cook a turkey with all the trimmings and three kids underfoot expecting a house full of guests to clean and prepare places for. They couldn't have called earlier. Anna is saint to put up with it. So glad they got away so it wouldn't be a regular trial.

Anonymous said...

I was wondering if a certificate of occupancy was needed for that "guest house".

Jeannine Guidry said...

Did anyone else notice, around 45 minutes into the episode, Anna says, "there's WEDDINGS right around the corner?"

Jeannine Guidry said...

Also, when Ben "moves in" and Jessa greets him at the door, it totally looks like they were going to go in for a kiss for a split second.

Anonymous said...

My take:

Jim Bob will use that house as a means to blackmail Jill and Derek. He feels very threatened by Derek's worldly influence on Jill. The house is basically a bribe. Once Jill and Derek try to implement any boundaries in their marriage he will sell that house from under them. Just like he was passive aggressive when Josh and Anna moved to DC, he be passive aggressive with Jill and Derek, and he will use that house as a means to punish them.

He also wanted the younger siblings to clean that house to teach them an important lesson: you tow the line and I will reward you handsomely. If you don't follow what I say you will get the scraps.

As for Ben and Jessa, Jim Bob realizes that allowing them to court may have been a huge mistake on his part. I believe the only reason he allowed the courtship was because the Bates were marrying off their kids left and right, and that made him look bad. And they both were jealous and wanted eyes on their family.

Ben is a 19 year old horny kid who does not have a stable job to support Jessa, and (like the majority of 19 year olds) won't have that job for a few years to come. Jessa and Ben's personalities do not match. If they were a normal couple they probably would have dated, fooled around a bit, and, once the infatuation wore off, broken up. You can tell they really aren't into each other. The look on Jessa's face when Jim Bob offered Ben to move was one of "I really don't care, do what you want!" There was no excitement. The same with Ben. "I have to think about it" is all he said. He didn't act all that interested in the idea either. In fact they both looked extremely nervous, like this is too soon for me and I feel rushed into this.

He allows Ben to stay in the shed hoping that it will lead to a proposal, so it doesn't make him (and the courtship idea) look bad. THIS MARRIAGE WILL END IN DISASTER! I predict a divorce within 10 years, or they will stay married but be completely miserable.

I still have hopes for Derek and Jill. They will have HUGE marital issues within the next few years, once Jill pops out a few kids. Derek will not put up with Jim Bob's meddling and control. It will be very difficult for Jill to leave and cleave, but she will choose Derek. They will work things out, but it will be a long rode for them.

I think Josh and Anna travel to see his parents so much because he feels obligated to do so, but I can tell both him and Anna know what Jim Bob is up to and they are both sick of it. The move to DC may have been the best thing for them, even though Josh works for a hate group.

In 10 years some of the kids will rebel. I guarantee it. I predict if one child rebels more will follow. Jim Bob and Michelle cannot control all 19 of their adult children's lives. The time and energy that would take them is near impossible, especially the older they get. And as more and more of their children marry off, their children won't have the time nor the energy to police their siblings. They will be focused on their own families.


Willow said...

We will soon know for sure, but I suspect Josh and Anna may be moving back to Arkansas. I wonder if they are feeling left out with Jill and Jessa getting so much attention. Surely they knew it would happen eventually. I hope that is not the case. I had big hopes of them making their own life in D.C., but seems like they can't seem to cut the apron strings, even a little bit. Couldn't they make any friends there? Josh and Anna and Jill and Derick should easily be able to go their own way. Jessa and Ben will take more time. Ben has no money and Jessa seems far from ready to be in charge of her own home. I am sure the problem is the pull of TLC and Jim Bob. Hard to give that publicity etc. up for a private life. I think someday they will be sorry they didn't run when they had the chance.

Missy said...

Does anyone know what happened to the Duggars being so gung ho about the "College Plus" program? I remember they had so many kids that were interested, that they actually had an advisor on site. I remember the advisor asking some of the girls, as well as Joseph if they had studied psychology. They all answered yes to that question. That was a surprise to me, as I couldn't picture Michelle teaching psychology. Josh & Jill are out of the house & John David is probably going to be involved in this new business venture of JB's, involving aviation. However, there are still a number of young Duggar adults in that house: Jana, Jinger, Joseph, Josiah, all have their GED & Joy can't be far behind as they seem to finish their schooling by 16yrs. So what happened to this great program that wasn't going to break the average persons bank account, if they wanted a college education for their child? They advertised that program on their show/ministry, on the internet, on tee shirts the kids were wearing. They actually showed billboards with the Duggars pictures on them advertising;"College Plus." Really, just how stupid do the Duggas think we are?

Anonymous said...

Sorry to disagree kms, but Anna is not a saint. She was stupid to try & put together a huge dinner on short notice just because JB changed the plans & only gave them 5 hours notice. I don't care what the reason was for the change in plans. She should have said that it was fine, that they were arriving a day early, and that night they could send out for pizza or have sandwiches or something easy. They could then have the big dinner the next day as planned. They were staying for a week..why did they expect a turkey dinner when they changed the planned arrival date & time? They weren't just staying overnight, they stayed for a week. That gave Anna plenty of time to prepare a holiday dinner, plus Anna would have had help from the Duggar girls.

Anonymous said...

Re; Willow's comment about Josh & Anna possibly moving back to AR. I don't think Josh would give up that job with the salary & all the other benefits he gets, just because he feels left out of the Duggar house. He loves meeting & greeting various politicians, being interviewed on TV or radio. When he first took that job, they posted his speaking fee. In addition to the speaking fee, there was airfare, meals, hotel accommodations, ground transport (for 2) & it was a tidy sum. Of course, we don't know if he had any takers for those speaking engagements, but I think he's right where he wants to be to further his career. He's never going to get a job with the salary & all the benefits he has now if he returns to AR

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

The house isn't a million dollar house. The million dollar parcel is the 20 or so acres surrounding the house. It obviously wasn't worth that either as it didn't sell. Some people have looked into the real estate and says the 20 acres is bank owned.
9/06/2014 10:18 AM


This is true. Some think that the listing for $1.53M is for the home but it is for the acreage surrounding it. The land is in foreclosure. The home itself sits on about 1.07 acres.

I don't think Derick or Jill are ignoring Ronnie. If he doesn't want to be filmed than they or TLC can't force it on him. That would be worse. They are doing the right thing.

Anonymous said...

About that made up "Thanksgiving" dinner for Jim Bob, that was a production stunt from start to finish. It should be obvious to anyone paying attention. It had nothing to do with Anna putting up with it or anything like that. It was episode fodder and nothing else. It began with the shopping trip with all the brand names clearly shown. It continued with the shopping cart not having enough food for 30 people. The rest of it was just acting. The biggest tip off of all? The crew wouldn't have been hanging around all that time unless they knew ahead of time that they had something to film. Most of the show is planned and staged.

Anonymous said...

If Derick's step-dad doesn't want to be filmed, they should say so. I also am tired of "staged events", like that holiday dinner Anna had to prepare. That's not what this show was supposed to be about.
I don't believe for one minute that Anna and Josh had no idea that the big house was for Jill and Derick. That family knows everything about each other as privacy isn't in their belief system. Their "reaction" was staged and they aren't allowed to have any feelings but happy ones, remember? Jealousy is a sin.
They need to make it real, "as it happens".

Anonymous said...

Could you imagine having 22 guests in your home for a week? Even if it is family? All of the work that goes into cleaning, cooking, laundry, plus expense on Josh and Anna's part. It's rude to expect another person to feed and entertain 22 plus people for a WEEK. That's a lot of people! But that's Josh and Anna's fault simply because they cannot tell Jim Bob "No." He controls them just like he controls everyone else in that family.

I think Josh will be back in Arkansas soon. He's there so much anyway. He's so emotionally stunted (and ignorant) on everything. He cannot separate himself from his parents and form his own family unit. There is no leave and cleave.I mean, did Anna visit her parents once a month when she lived in Arkansas? No, of course not. There's something seriously wrong with him. He's how old? 25 going on 5?

Anonymous said...

I think it's pretty telling when a so-called "reality tv show" has now become like every other reality show out there. 19kids now looks like a staged sitcom show complete with all the scripted "what will they do now?" plot lines (IE the Thanksgiving episode with Anna).

To me, the scripted dialogue and fake "golly gee look at Jill's ring/dress" feels forced. There is nothing "organic" about this show at all like they present it to be.

Anonymous said...

Three things that stuck out to me:

- We saw Josiah twice this episode! Once as a talking head, and once on someone's iPhone (I think they were facetiming).. confusing but at least he looked okay
-Josie literally licking the windows after she didn't get to go see Ben's room with the rest of them, poor thing is so fond of ben and they ignored her
-Jessa being so fake and annoying! I used to like her for being who she is but now she seems to be hamming it up for the cameras.. especially when ben made the comment of "a piece of metal and a rock" and jessa going "oOoOo.. I like dis!" ..ugh!

Anonymous said...

"especially when ben made the comment of "a piece of metal and a rock" and jessa going "oOoOo.. I like dis!" ..ugh!"

I cringed when I saw that scene especially when she went bug eyes and nodding her head.

Jac&Jil said...

The worst part of the episode for me was the girls cooking the Mother's Day meal. Could someone please teach the girls some kitchen hygiene? Their way too long hair is almost hanging in the food as they are preparing it. It is so gross! No one wants to find a hair in their food. I for one would never eat anything that had been prepared by the girls. Maybe Derick's mom will politely ask Jill to put her hair in a pony tail if she ever helps Cathy prepare a meal. I hope so.

I've noticed that Ann has been looking quite chesty lately. She looked that way at Jill's wedding and I don't think she was pregnant. Anyone think maybe she had an enhancement? I would like to know what others think.

Also, if the Duggars own a plane and John David is now a licensed pilot, how will that work if someone hires him to fly them somewhere. Will John David have to have an accountability partner with him in the plane? I can't believe that Jim Bob would let him pilot a plane by himself.

Anonymous said...

I don't think that Anna has had a breast enhancement. Her sudden "buxomness" is due to breast feeding 3 children in rapid succession. Her body has changed considerably considering the slender, small boned girl she was when she married. She also may be eating richer fattier foods with Josh. Their whole diet as a family is horrendous. They don't know how to cook, they know how to assemble frozen, pre-packaged, boxed and canned foods. A cardiologist would have a field day with this group. I worry about Grandma and her diet living there... I hope she cooks for herself in between laundry loads.

Anonymous said...

Yes the whole hair dangling in their food is NASTY!! I would love to ask the other siblings...how many times...no better yet how many hairs do you find in your food on a daily basis? And since you Duggars are so competitive, is there a prize for the person who collects the most hair?!

Anonymous said...

Jac,
John David is not a licensed pilot. He is a student pilot, meaning he cannot fly passengers without an instructor on board. Even after he completes his initial licensing, it is not legal for him to act as a commercial pilot and be paid. In addition to this, the plane that Jim Bob purchased would have to be certified for commercial operation which means a lot of time and red tape to meet FAA compliance. So don't expect a "Duggar Airways" to be operating flights out of Arkansas any time soon. Though If Im not mistaken I do believe Jim Bob can utilize some tax benefits if John David flies him somewhere (uncompensated) to conduct business.
Think of it this way, this is John David's Equivalent to halfway completing doula or midwife training instead of going to school to be a nurse or OBGYN. This is not serious and career driven education to become a professional pilot. It is merely a half hearted attempt at a hobby. It is the Duggar version of education--smoke and mirrors.

Anonymous said...

John David should be a licensed private pilot by now. It's certainly been long enough. He could fly passengers for "fun" but not profit.

He said long ago he wanted to be a pilot. I don't remember him saying he wanted to fly commercial jets for the major airlines.

no name said...

I get that they don't want there kids to go to regular college and stuff but why not, if they start something, make sure they finish. Jill could do so much missionary work with her midwife training if she had a degree. She's been working on it for years. I guess having them get degrees and jobs would allow them room to spread their wings and leave the nest if they wanted to.

stephanie said...

I wonder what JB's side of that's Tory is. We knew that the Duggars wouldn't let them go yo any college

Anonymous said...

Did anyone else notice in last nights episode, after the kids had completed the go-carts, as best they could without wheels, JB was congratulating the winning team. He shook hands with Joseph, & Jeremiah, as they were the winners. His son Jedediah was standing with Joe & Jeremiah & also put his hand out to shake hands with his dad. JB pulled his hand away & looked at his watch. It was an obvious reference to the fact that Jedediah wasn't on the winning team. He was on JB's team. That young man was left standing there with his hand out. It doesn't matter if that boy was on the winning team or not, he took part in the project & it was obvious that he thought his dad was going to shake his hand.

Anonymous said...

Finally caught this one.
I agree, I don't see this marriage going well for Jessa. Her attitude about marrying Ben is more like a little kid stubbornly digging their heels in rather than one of out and out love. Ben seems to be just doing whatever it takes to hitch his wagon to the Duggar train. I see him chasing skirts and leaving Jessa at home with a tattered marriage that is a sham. But she'll stay because she needs to stick by her man no matter what.

Stephanie said...

'RE Jill's house: I said back when the house was first on the air that Anna deserved the beautiful house for payment of Michaels toilet birth. Josh should be a little upset. He was around for 16 years when they were living in squalor.
The house "gift" just proves Jill has NOT had any type of paycheck or savings.
What is Derives job as of today?
What does it mean to say Ben works for Jimbob? What will Bens tax return say?
Jim bob says to Josh and Anna " we have cleaning for you to do" Anna's face looked like she was thinking "oh neck no". Jill wasn't there to clean but Anna was suppose to?

There has never been a mention of a guesthouse because there is no guesthouse.

have we discussed the first kiss? We know the girls have not kissed any boys but have you noticed the boys say "our first kiss"? They dont say "my first kiss"

Ben is really cute and I feel certain Jess is NOT the first girl he will ever kiss.

Derrick has always seemed touchy feely with Jill so I think (and hope) at 25 years old he has kissed a girl.

Listen closely, those boys dont admit they have never kissed a girl (thankfully)
Makes me feel sorry for John David and I still hope he has a secret girl around town.

Anonymous said...

Re: The girls with the long hair being so nasty & in their face while they are cooking. I also think a lot of the acne they have comes from that hair brushing against their faces, especially when they sleep at night. It also appears oily. Not good for the complexion.

Aimee said...

The #1 thing that bothered me about this show was when James (I think) got a splinter while working at Jill and Derick's house. He was very upset, as it was a large splinter, and Jim Bob tried to help him. James seemed afraid and mistrusting that JB wouldn't hurt him. Jim Bob, instead of reassuring him, became quietly angry. Jessa came and helped with the splinter and James relaxed right away. He felt safe with his sister and knew he could trust her. It was sad to see that he didn't feel that about his own father and that Jim Bob was more worried about everyone obeying and looking perfect than allowing his son a moment of hurt and fear. What is the point of 'having as many blessings as we can' if you don't want to care for them?

Anonymous said...

I agree with the comments that the Duggar version of education is all smoke and mirrors. They have such a weak and incomplete education foundation that I am sure they hit the wall with college entrance exams (SAT's). They are also not allowed to mingle with people that are not just like them. I would like to know what the SAT completion rate is for those with ATI homeschooling and what their scores look like. I imagine they are very low and this is why ATI created the online college....more smoke and mirrors. When they say they want to be lawyers or nurses or pilots, they can only go so far and then they realize----they don't have the education to do it. Someday I hope some of them will back up and get a real education and make their career dreams come true. It will be hard for them.

Eostara said...

This is really bad. I am fascinated with a show that features a family who is trying to sell a so-called Christian family idea that involves disrespecting their own children and is in no way respecting God's creation.
It may be that I am German and that is because of the cultural difference, but does nobody think it upsetting that the don't have real plates and cutlery, but do use tons of plasticware and paper plates? I am still waiting for the little TLC info window that states the tons of unnecessary waste this lifestyle produces. That is not respecting God's creation in any way!

And what's with Ben and Jessa's date on a shooting range? Really? The way I was brought up, use of weapons, training with weapons does not go at all together with a supposedly Christian lifestyle.
(I guess that was in a newer episode..)

Anonymous said...

After watching Jessa cake on the makeup and cover up the acne I think we need to see the episodes of Moochelle and Jim Boob taking them all to the dermatologist. I would also like to see an episode where all of the adult children including John David, Joseph, etc... in cooking school classes. You can throw in Anna and Josh too!

Anonymous said...

why does Jim Bob have to say you may kiss your bride any time one of his offspring gets married? Even at Josh's wedding he said that Josh and Anna were saving their first kiss for the camera. Why is everything about him?

The other question is why when they talk about courting couples such as Jill and Derick it is always mentioned or shown that Jessa is in a courtship with Ben Seewald. I get it you have two couples courting.

watchdog said...

I wish these people would use some different adjectives. Everything is "sweet" and "special" or "really fun." Somehow I doubt that.

You forgot about "neat," "really neat," and "awesome."

Take the word "like" out of their vocabularies, and they couldn't form complete sentences. Everything is "like" this and "like" that, e.g. "We were like... ohhh... that's so sweet!"

Coleen said...

Regarding homeschool college admin: I know at a comm. college I attended homeschool/unschool kids could submit records that didn't include ACT/SAT results. I don't know if they were exempt from the tests, but my comm. college did have a dept. dedicated to the homeschool/unschool community.

sandi said...

The shooting range is a political statement,imo.Like many Conservatives,the Duggars love their guns,and this is not the first time they have shown them with them.

Anonymous said...

It bothers me deeply that Jessa (who is surely trained to look cheerful at all times) seems not a bit excited that she can see her boyfriend more regularly when he moves in. The boy she is doomed to marry. Neither seems he or his parents. Everyone wears kind of a "I can't avoid it"-expression.
Or maybe (I really hope it for them) they are only disappointed because they thought they might get away from her family soon after the marriage?

Also, how is it JimBoobs job to speed up the relationship?

I'm also sorry for the younger kids that loose their real moms when the bigger girls move out :(

Anonymous said...

Or, "it's such a joy!"
When is it NOT a joy?

Anonymous said...

Do you ever notice Grandma & Grandpa hugging or kissing the grandchildren??? I never do

hello said...

Jessa doesn't seem that excited to be engaged to Ben, but it seems that she is expected to marry him since they were courted. I believe the only way she could have avoided marrying him is if he broke it off. It's a shame that the kids are expected to marry the first person they got involved with. For the girls, this would be the person that Daddy found for them. In their latest People article, Jimboob said he is auditioning suitors for Jana and Jinger via letters, emails and phone calls. Hr states that interested parties are looking for girls with really high standards.

Melissa J. said...

Since JB pushed for the relationship and Ben is too horny to break off the engagement (thus giving up his chance for "sweet fellowship"), then it will be Jessa's fault if the marriage goes bad. Makes perfect sense! Blame the woman in a male-dominated society.