Tuesday, September 23, 2014, 9:00 PM, Jill Says Yes to the Dress

Michelle and the oldest Duggar girls are off to D.C. for a very special mother/daughters trip... it's time to buy Jill's wedding dress! Meanwhile, Jim Bob and John David take Derick and Ben on a guys' getaway to rock climbing and zip lining.

61 minutes

Ratings:  2.503 M viewers and a 1.0 rating.

151 comments:

Anonymous said...

Who wants to make a bet that a talking head Michelle will discuss the importance of modesty?? And a smug condescending Jill will talk about how, "you know, like, most brides will, like, choose a dress that will bring attention to their body or like whatever" (not that she actually knows anyone in the real world to make this assumption). She will then proceed to pick out dress after dress that cover every inch of her body to ensure not to tantalize any men at the wedding. You're welcome everyone now you can fast forward through the first 15 minutes.

The guys segment will be more interesting. Since Ben and Derick are actually athletic and likely more adventurous than JB and JD, I'm sure the Duggar men will find ways to compensate and put down the future son in laws to make sure they know who's in charge. I used to think John David was a mild mannered and polite young man but I think now that his status on the family compound is being challenged, he is starting to show his true colors. It seems to me that he picks on Ben a lot more than Derick. Do yall think it's because Derick and Jill are further into their relationship and almost married? Or because he is more threatened by Derick's education and that makes Ben an easier target?
I hope they man up and start commanding some respect from the Duggars but thats probably unlikely.

Anonymous said...

I think John David is sexually frustrated and just blowing off unused Testosterone. That's why he acts the way he does.

Anonymous said...

From the promo I have seen on TV so far, I will venture to say that I think Jim Bob is a coward and has no real guts for ANYTHING like a "physical challenge". He always seemed frightened at scuba diving, zip lining, etc., and always made Michelle go first. That's a good husband? No way IMO. He was acting like a coward and a baby with the guys on tonight's show when having to scale the side of a small mountain..so if he's afraid of those things, why bring the guys to such an activity? He's such a jerk.
I agree with the first post here about Jill and Michelle having to explain how modest they want the wedding dress to be and how other brides ALL look like strippers walking down a runway..So not true of many brides. I, myself chose a wedding dress which happened to cover my shoulders because I liked the lace effect look.

Pam said...

I think JD picks on Ben more because he's younger and less educated than Derick. JD is trying to build himself up. This trip will be no different.
As far as Jill goes, there will be more talk about how they are saving the physical stuff for marriage and that's why they want to hurry down the aisle.

taurus0385 said...

Here comes an hour of modesty talks and immaturity. I feel bad for Jill.

Anonymous said...

The last thing I want to see is the Duggar guys trying to "test" Derick and Ben.

Go clean your toilets and leave them alone!

Anonymous said...

Has anyone seen "kid Farm" on youtube? It's a Duggar spoof and it his absolutely hilarious. The latest one is about wedding dress shopping which is just awesome!

Anonymous said...

I've thought there was was only one kid farm episode. I'll have to check them out!

Anonymous said...

So for someone who is supposedly obsessed with gran babies, Michelle is not very doting on josh and Anna's kids. Sheesh, she doesn't even hold Marcus for very long, and he's a baby! I'm sure the little Dillard's and seewalds won't be getting a warm granny experience either! It's all (baby) talk, no affectionate actions!

Anonymous said...

So I just have one question……If the Dugars would like us to all follow there "Quiver Full" way of living who do they expect to become our next Doctors, Lawyers, Scientist and etc?

Anonymous said...

i saw the previews when Jill went shopping for dress it looks like she is wearing a white top with those wedding dress? I also saw when she got married the girls were ugly flip flops with their brides maid dress. I thought that was awful.

taurus0385 said...

The TV guide for Armstrong cable says its an old zoo episode from 2010?

puddin' said...

The Duggars and their holier than thou attitude which they talk about all the time has run its course. They do nothing but put down everybody else and what they believe. Now with all the boys (men) jabs at Ben...i just have to wonder what would Jesus do or think? John David needs to get a life and a wife and act his age. He is not a kid any longer. He sounds and acts like a teenager. Grow up John David! As for Jills modest weddin' dress...blah blah blah. *FREE JANA* and ~Run Ben Run~

Sharla said...

TLC and my cable guide still say it's going to air.

taurus0385 said...

They keep showing commercials for the wedding dress one so that's why I was confused.

Coleen said...

I hope Grandma Duggar wasn't really left alone with the little ones. I hope her daughter and granddaughter Amy stayed over to help.

Leecy said...

What is wrong with these people? OMG All they talk about are babies, babies grandbabies and did I say babies? I have NEVER seen two parents push babies sooooo much.

Also, Jessa/Ben are the poster children for "when two people arent mature enough to get married"

I have watched this show off and on for a few years and it just gets worse with the baby comments. OMG

Leecy said...

Did you catch the comment by john David/ .....he is the most expendable person on the climbing trip......and dad Jimbob adds..."because he doesnt have a girlfriend"...........It just gets worse!!!!!!!!!!

mom in texas said...

Something about John David saying JB is always trying to "hook him up with girls" gives me the creeps for some reason. If the Duggar motto is to leave it all up to God, then Jim Bob should allow God to decide if JD is ready for a spouse. IMO, the thought of that is hilarious since John David seems so aloof.

Although I haven't watched much of this season, so my opinion of Ben may be outdated, but Ben still seems so ill-fitted for this bunch. Something about him seems so phony. Like he is pretending to buying into all of the Duggar bull so he can front hug Jessa. He still comes off as an hormonal teenage boy to me, not a young man on the path to marriage.

mom in texas said...

Anonymous said:
So I just have one question……If the Dugars would like us to all follow there "Quiver Full" way of living who do they expect to become our next Doctors, Lawyers, Scientist and etc?
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In the Duggar's world, God has the ultimate say so. There is no need for these professional. Doctors are great and helpful but God is the one who gives them the ability. Lawyers are never needed because they live their lives so righteous that they would never need a lawyer (although we all know there are many reason for lawyers). And scientist don't exists.

Anonymous said...

Regarding Derick and Ben trying to "get in good" with the Duggar boys: Derick is a college graduate who attended a real university and was involved in extracurricular activities and lived in Nepal without an "accountability partner" that we know of. I think the Duggar boys (and Jim Bob) feel threatened by Derick's accomplishments and want to let Derick know who's boss. Ben is really still just a kid; I think Jim Bob wanted him closer to Duggarville not just so Ben and Jessa could be together, but so that Jim Bob and the Duggar boys could mold Ben into the kind of "man" they want in their family: unambitious, obedient, and mostly unschooled.

Wampascat said...

Jim Bob is a big coward. I can see him using one of his little kids as a shield if he was ever threatened by someone with a gun. That's how low my opinion is of him.

Anonymous said...

In Duggar world all this wedding baby stuff is really the "Cool Factor" for them. The problem is that they are not sophisticated enough to handle all of this attention and money. It makes me think about that scene in the movie "Body Heat" were Bill Hurt is talking to Mickey Roork about carrying out the perfect murder…..something about the fact that there are a hundred things that could go wrong and if you get 25 of them right you are a genius?

Anonymous said...

Seriously, they couldn't let grandma off laundry/babysitting duty for a few days so she could help her granddaughter pick a wedding dress? Really? This is her first granddaughter to get married! That's something she should have gotten to be there for.

Wampascat said...

Did I hear that right? Did Michelle say " may you do your husband good and not evil?" Who the hell says that to their daughter when they are picking out their gown? Normally, there are tears and comments like, " that boy had better treat my little girl right!" I seriously don't believe The Duggars have enough brains to blow themselves up with. Michelle needs a smack right in the mouth.

Audrey Williams said...

Is Ben...special? Something ain't right there unless he's just painfully shy. I get the feeling that underneath the sweetness Jana is hating being involved with this wedding.

Anonymous said...

I can't get over Boob's tough talk about how he and John David were "adventurous" and whether Ben and Derrick were "tough enough" or "man enough" to marry his daughters, but when the time came to do any kind of physical challenge Ben was the first to climb up, and the first to face his fear and jump down.

I also appreciate that the camera crew made a point to pull the shot out wide enough so we could see JB and JD's matching physiques.

BLB said...

Wow! Anna's brunch had REAL dishes. Impressive!

BLB said...

Frontal hugs too! Whoo hoo! But no kisses from mama or sisters. Gag, this is so sappy!

Lesleigh said...

What really made me crazy was that JB and JD kept saying that they were trying to determine if Derick and Ben would make good DUGGARS! They will NOT become Duggars.....they will remain Dillards and Seewalds.

Anonymous said...

I actually cried a bit for poor Joy-Anna. Your mom is not supposed to "graduate" in life and leave you behind. That's what kids are supposed to do. I actually had a flash of hate for Michelle for that. Arrgh.

And poor John-David. He's sooo unattractive yet kind of cocky and slow. Everyone is worth something with or without a mate (how stupid). It was sad that his dad had to solicit female interest on his behalf. For that matter, John is too danged old and male and weird to have his dad pick out someone for him. HE needs to pick. On his own. Can you imagine the poor Quiverfull young homely girl that's going to get thrust upon him because their fathers chose mates for them? Arrgh again.

Anonymous said...

Oh, and Jana didn't look the least bit interested in being Jill's maid of honor...

Anonymous said...

Oh, and Jana didn't look the least bit interested in being Jill's maid of honor...

Anonymous said...

What the..?! Yeah why wasn't Grandma Duggar included in picking out a wedding dress? Is she not an important woman in Jill's life? Oh no, wait poor Grandma is just an extra babysitter and laundry maid for this "family." Jeez, even with the ridiculous side hug with her son! Michelle also was talking about how "excited" she was to see the grand kids, but they were sitting in the corner, and JANA was holding baby Marcus! Wow, so excited Michelle! Your daughter is still acting more like a mom than you are!

Anonymous said...

Wampascat said...
Did I hear that right? Did Michelle say " may you do your husband good and not evil?" Who the hell says that to their daughter when they are picking out their gown? Normally, there are tears and comments like, " that boy had better treat my little girl right!" I seriously don't believe The Duggars have enough brains to blow themselves up with. Michelle needs a smack right in the mouth.
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The phrase Michelle used about Jill doing her husband "good and not evil" comes straight from Proverbs 31:12 in the Bible. That whole section of Proverbs 31 describes "The Virtuous Wife." The Duggars and many other Christians would find the use of this phrase to be perfectly normal.

Beth Anne said...

Re: They will NOT become Duggars.....they will remain Dillards and Seewalds.

When you are as insular and self-absorbed as the Duggars, it probably doesn't occur to them that there is family life outside their compound and that Derick and Ben should be respected for who they are. JimBob and Michelle talk the talk of Jesus first, others second, yourself third, but their actions and "walk" suggest otherwise. I have known some families that were dominant and into themselves and basically taught their kids that their family unit was elite, but the Duggars take it to a whole new level.

Anonymous said...

Yeah that's what I heard too. I couldn't find the remote to rewind back but......yikes

Anonymous said...

Lmao!!! I honestly wish he didn't end up jumping so that Ben & derick could hold that over him. I guess the fact that he was being such a wuss when the future SILs hardly made a peep is good enough

Anonymous said...

All I can think when I see her is how sad she looks & I just want to adopt her!!!

Willow said...

This episode was just unbelievably fake. Jim Bob and John David are the unfit ones. Ben and Derick are WAY more physically fit. I believe Derick did hiking and climbing in Nepal. Maybe they meant it as a joke. I mean, otherwise, could they be for real? The whole men's challenge thing should have been the other-way-around. JD talked big but he did not jump. I have to say, though, I felt a little bad for him when he said he was expendable. JB did at least say it was o.k. John, they loved him. JimBob tried to be funny, but it was still so odd. And, no, they do not have to be Duggars.

Willow said...

Regarding the D. girls at the bridal salon: Wow. I also thought Grandma should have been there and maybe even Hannie, since she was one of the bridesmaids. I also could not believe some of the things Michelle said when reading her "letter" to Jill. The part about evil was just bizarre. Reminds us again just how weird these folks are. The sisters came off pretty genuine (especially Joy) but Jill came off a little arrogant in the whole episode to me. Maybe she is just shy and doesn't know how to show her feelings, but it surprised me how she acted. I am like a lot of you, I like most of the kids and wish them well but I dislike Michelle and Jim Bob and I am sick of the modesty lectures and dragging out of the wedding.

Anonymous said...

I agree, poor Grandma Duggar should have been there with Jill to help pick a dress. She sure does get forgotten about. Except when they need clean clothes.

JB talks so tough "they want to marry a couple of my daughters, I want to see if they havew what it takes" but yet he was the scaredest (is that a word?) of them all.

Anonymous said...

So, the Duggars don't believe in doctors or lawyers? Bull-loney, I say. I bet you the farm that Jim Bob has a slew of representation in the legal department, tax accountants, estate planners so he keeps the maximum legal amount of money in the family...he relies on his representation as he isn't schooled in those areas. As for doctors? Well, well, Michelle sure utilizes those people when she needed them, didn't she? It was those medical professionals, male AND FEMALE who labored so Josie would make it and they also performed surgery on her many times with C-sections, gall bladded surgery, etc..They are truly a piece of work.
Jim Bob is such a coward from the get go, it isn't funny. He also doesn't seem to think through anything he "plans", like the commitment and skill in building his own 7,000 sq ft house, cleaning out the storage shed of 30 years, the bungee jumping off a cliff....he is a coward of the first degree, just a lucky guy who knows how to wheel and deal and screw people out of THEIR livelihood.
And YES, those guys are NOT going to be Duggars, they retain their own last name, last I checked. Also doesn't their belief system say that the bride joins her husband? Can't have it both ways, guys...
I also see just how dedicated and "enrolled" Be is in college. That boy has abandoned his education to clean toilets... how can his parents be for that? They are idiots too.
The episode last night with Jill "shopping" for her dress was also a waste as I didn't care to hear any of those stupid notes being read to Jill. More fluff and fill.
If the Roloffs and TLC can air their son's wedding in 10 days, why didn't the Duggars do the same? Just old news and we don't want to see Jessa's long ago wedding air next spring.

Anonymous said...

Loved Derick's comment about the impending challenge being "some kind of Duggar marriage test".

Anonymous said...

Please, will someone get a dermatologist for these teenage and older Duggar kids! They have terrible acne!

Anonymous said...

I think Ben and Derick put Jim Boob and John David in their place. Now if they could just get Jill and Jessa as far away from these two as possible --- all would be well.

Anonymous said...

Does anyone else think it's weird that Anna wished she could be in Arkansas to help with the wedding? Jill has a million siblings. Why would she need her sister-in-law? Personally, I think Grandma should have been there instead of Anna.

Anonymous said...

I had a hard time seeing the dress for that darn tee shirt she was wearing. I really do not understand wearing that in an all female environment?????

Judy said...

It was such a boring episode! I could barely watch it.

no1 said...

Ha! I also very much enjoyed having the side-by- side belly comparison between JB and JD. For all their bravado swagger those are some serious chickenetti bellies.

I admit to having a warm feeling for Ben. I think of him as a "babe in the woods" type puppy that needs a loving home with parents who model adult, functional behavior. The poor guy needs another ten years to grow up. I feel like Jessa is swooping in on him just like a big spider.

Anonymous said...

I think it was unfair to leave Grandma home with all the little ones while Michelle went to help Jill pick out a dress and JB had to go camping. Why couldn't Grandma have been included? JB always finds a way to get out of work. I thought it was horrible to leave poor old Grandma home, she works so hard. If I were her I would have told JB sorry, watch your own kids and gotten on a plane and went on a vacation myself.

Allison said...

I don't understand why they would go allllll the way to DC for the dress. I mean, so what if Anna made friends with the owner? That's so much money they spent getting the dress (plane tickets) that they could have used on the actual wedding! I mean, unless the dress shop paid to be on the show and to have them come to her. But it just made no sense. I do not understand why they would go to DC for a wedding dress. Little Rock would have made much more sense.

And yep, can't stand listening to Jill. She has a vocabulary of about 10 words. I think Jinger is my favorite right now, maybe Joy too. They are the only ones with a real personality at this point.

Anonymous said...

Why can't the Duggars hug normally? It is painful to watch them hug each other. The sisters write these emotional, heartfelt messages to Jill and the tears are flowing yet they hugged each other so stiff and awkwardly like they were forced to hug a bum on the street who hadn't bathed in a month or someone with a communicable disease and they didn't want to get too close.

Carolynn O. said...

Maybe JB is expecting those guys to legally change their last names (like brides usually do). That will ensure there will be more Duggars in the world. Jill is still being touted as Jill Duggar even though we know who she is and that she married "Derrickdillard" which sounds like one long name. I haven't watched the shows this season. All I have to do is come here to get caught up in a few minutes and move on with my day.

Anonymous said...

Jim Bob is now pimping out John David to eligible young womem "so girls if you're interested contact ME."

WTF?

Jim Bob is going to start his own Fundie matchmaking business. He can use Josh and Jill to set-up the website and Jessa can do the hair and make-up and Jinger will take the photographs and the Howlers and Lost Girls will chaperon and Jana will keep the books and Ben will...hmmmm, what will Ben do?

Anonymous said...

HA! I love it!

Katie's Mom said...

Of all the set ups in various episodes, the beautiful brunch tops all. We didn't even know that Anna had those dishes & they never go near the dining room. That food was definitely brought in & everything set up & well decorated by TLC. Poor Jana was stuck with Marcus on her lap the entire time she was trying to eat, even while she was being asked about being "maid of honor," she had a kid on her lap.

Anonymous said...

My only regret watching last nights episode, is that I don't have a daughter to pimp out to Jim Bob. Boy would I like to go head to head with him....he wouldn't know which end was up when we finished!

Anonymous said...

I remember when Michelle was picking out her vow renewal dress at Kleindfelds in N.Y. They gave her a "modesty blouse," to go under the dresses that would show too much. It was a much more professional article of clothing to wear under a wedding dress,& something they apparently use often. Much nicer than what they had in the shop that Jill went to. They were probably barred from Kleindfelds for life after their last visit there.

Anonymous said...

OK I watched the whole episode last night. It was a bit boring. Yes the usual Michelle talking head about modesty. JB and JD acting superior and Derick and Ben both having to go along in order to stay in the fold. Bla bla.

A couple points of note: JB leading the boys (MEN) outside to the campfire - "Let's go have some s'mores!" Sounded like something you would say to your young boy scout troop. I know plenty of people don't drink and it's for various reasons but at that moment of male bonding on a cabin trip "Let's go have a beer!" would have sounded better. But that is evil beyond evil, lest we forget, all of us heathens.

As Jill has progressed in this courtship / engagement / marriage thing, it's clear how "not so nice" so does seem to be. Of course it's due to her upbringing, but she is quite trite and a bit full of herself perhaps? I think it's been noticed for years that she became the "Talker" of the older girls, parroting Mom and Dads advice, etc, while you saw more genuine personality or slight comments from the others. I know others here have commented on Michelle and how when complimented she says "How Sweet" instead of "Thank you." Jill is now doing the same thing. The compliments at the dress shop, the nice letters from her sisters, all elicited a bored "How sweet" from Jill with a fake smile. It's not nerves, she is used to the camera and these settings - I think it's her personality coming through. To Michelle's (strange) letter I heard a slight murmured "thanks" but mostly an "Oh that's nice" "Aw" "How sweet" all around.

Is it below them to say thank you? I mean it's yes ma'am no ma'am type talk to there Mom and Dad so it's not complete disregard for manners, but thank you doesn't seem to be a phrase I hear often out of the Duggars to each other, let alone to outsiders.

Anonymous said...

John David and Jim Boob have real beer guts. They look pregnant.

Anonymous said...

Not only did they travel alll the way to DC to find a dress, it wasn't actually DC where the store was. It was in Fredericksburg VA, about 60 miles south of DC, probably 2 hours travel time with traffic down I95, even further if they left from Anna's house in MD.

Anonymous said...

Christy Stutzman, wife of Congressman Marlin Stutzman, made a surprise appearance last night on the TLC reality show, 19 Kids and Counting.

Christy Stutzman co-owns Ava Laurenne Bride in Fredericksburg, Va. with her sister Wendy Rivera, and Jill Duggar visited to find a wedding dress.

Jill Duggar is the first Duggar daughter to get married and the wedding has been a key storyline this year.

The Stutzman's busily tweeted last night during the show.

Christy Stutzman posted "It was such an honor and a joy, @jillmdillard You are such a beautiful, Godly lady inside and out! Sweet episode!"

And Marlin Stutzman chimed in with "Watching #19kidsandcounting What a great way to spend time with family before some big weddings!"

Marlin Stutzman is friends with the brother of the bride, Josh Duggar - executive director of FRC Action, the legislative affiliate of Family Research Council.

Dar said...

Having watched the show on and off for a few years, it took last night's episode to fully realize just how young these girls were when they became the defacto mother of their younger siblings. Jill must have been only seven or eight. Poor Joy, her mother is leaving. It also speaks volumes that it was Jill who went to comfort her and her "real" mother was as detached as a stranger. What injustice has been done to these young women. No wonder, they want babies, that is all they know. Michelle should be ashamed of herself. It was interesting that she made a big point of letting us know that she makes all of the appointments, etc. She does almost nothing with regards to looking after her own children.I also thought JimBob's mother should have had a little vacation and went to help with the choosing of the dress. In fact, Jim Bob should have insisted on it, rather than leaving her and going off with the boys.

John David is starting to look like he is in his late 30's. Derick and Ben are certainly in a lot better shape than he.

Anonymous said...

I am confused, I thought it was the guy who contacts the girls father about courting, not the other way around. And yes, Jim Bob these guys are not and never will be a Duggar.

Anonymous said...

Of course, it is not Jim Boob and John David's fault that they are fat and unhealthy. It is the women's fault of course. They must be taught how to prepare healthy meals and then all will be OK.

Willow said...

Did anybody else notice Jessa's "letter" to Jill said something about Jill being the pefect one who never made mistakes or got in trouble, etc.?I couldn't believe it. Jill looked a little embarrassed, but, hey, we all knew it already. I call good on Jessa, lol.

hello said...

I have always thought that Jill was the favorite child since she seems to be the one that has drunk most of the Duggar koolaid. I don't think she would ever go against any of the training that she had growing up. She is also acting like Michelle more and more everyday. She has the bug eyed look and high pitched voice down.

Anonymous said...

Haha. This was the funniest episode ever. JB and JD sitting around with their bellies hanging out putting Ben and Derick to the test of measuring up to them, the great Duggars. Ben and Derick, who are well-mannered, physically fit, and more educated than all the Duggars put together.

One can see Michelle at the salon with her "grandbaby" standing in front of her chair. All Michelle did was barely touch his hand when it would have been perfectly natural to pick him up and cuddle him or even look down and talk to him. It appears that she doesn't even like babies all that much. What she likes is the attention that comes from being pregnant and nursing which is how the Duggars let people know they have a great sex life, end of story.

I get that the mother of the bride wants to be there when the bride picks out her dress, but Michelle just looks out of place in this courtship story by constantly thrusting herself in the limelight at the most personal times. Play acting the proposal, overseeing the ring purchase, and now center stage at the dress salon. Wedding preparation is often a time when brides connect with girlfriends (the Duggars don't have any). Parents interact with their own age peers doing behind the scenes things like getting the house ready for guests, shopping, etc. Certainly not chaperoning the about to be married couple.

I'll bet a dollar against John David's 'give me some doughnuts' that the wedding dress was free.

Loved the luncheon with nice dishes at Anna's house. The caterers must have brought dishes, napkins and tablecloth along with the food. It was probably free too. The benefits of being reality stars, wow.

Anonymous said...

JD needs to stay away from the donuts, too.

Anonymous said...

Can you imagine being an almost 25 yr. old guy and your father says to the world (single ladies) to send applications to him (father) to screened by
him?WEIRD!! If their kids are still single in their thirties are they still going to have to have daddy's approval and chaperones?!

Reality TV Junkie said...

I think the wedding dress shopping was really heartfelt and touching, it almost made me cry actually. Jill looked beautiful.

Anonymous said...

How could it possibly have not embarrassed Michelle in the least when Jill said how she took care of baby Joy Anna and that she was her real life baby doll etc..?
I would have hung my head in shame being a mother who didn't do her job..what a jerk she is. Her daughters really should call her on the carpet about those things and tell here where to shove it, in "duggar terms". They should refuse to work that hard anymore especially with two going/gone..

Anonymous said...

In the LDS/Mormon faith, the priesthood (all males- much like the Duggar's faith, women are not allowed leadership positions within the church)the bishop, prophet, etc. have no formal religious training and are allowed to perform sealings (LDS word for marriage.) I don't think that seminary or a college degree is a requirement for preforming religious ceremonies in most states. I fully expect at some point we will see some mixture of the Duggar boys and in-laws in "pastoral" positions.

Anonymous said...

Did anyone notice that stiff-far off hug that Michelle gave Jill? None of her sisters did that. They actually hugged her.
I don't believe for one moment that any of them but Joy Anna wrote those "tributes". They all read them as if they were composed by someone else. I think Joy nixed the prepared one that was given to her and actually wrote one herself that's why she didn't read it aloud.
Like heck did Anna set that table, use her own dishes and prepare that food. It was catered and professionally set up. She just doesn't have any style, IMO.
Note to Jim Bob: I thought the courting system required the GUY to approach the GIRL'S FATHER to meet her. You, JB have no say in the matter. Did you speak with Mr. Kellar and 'OK' it for Josh? Josh spoke to you and Josh spoke then to Mr. Kellar. You can't have it both ways. What do you want to control your sons' courting too? Sorry, there man, but NO.
Love the way Michelle "shooed" Marcus' hand away from her beautiful hair without turning her head or even her eye. She completely ignored him. He was in her lap at the end because I bet something was said to her about how that would look once aired.
That stupid camping trip was totally unnecessary, just took up air time and YES, Derick you are right...who takes a prospective groom on something remotely dangerous a few weeks from the wedding? You idiot.
When coward daddy asked for the guys to "take care of them" if he died bungee jumping, Derick said yes to all 19, but JB had to cut him down and said, "no, just the 2 girls" to Ben and Derick..I felt badly for Derick.
The "modesty blouse" that Michelle wore at Kleinfelds, if I remember correctly, was a bolero jacket they had on the floor that she wore backwards under the sample gown.

Anonymous said...

I LOL when JD said that he didn't have anything to prove when he didn't do the jump. It proved to me that he's a wimp. Ben is afraid of heights but he had the courage to jump first and was the first up on the climb (this coming from a person that doesn't like him much). Derick hiked and climbed in Nepal so I don't think it was much of a hardship for him.
I felt sad for Joy Anna when she couldn't read her letter to Jill because she didn't want to cry. Jill is her "momma" and am glad that she read Joy's letter to herself. Maybe it wasn't meant for Mechelle to hear anyway because I can imagine what Joy wrote.

Anonymous said...

I felt so sad watching Jinger and Joy Anna cry last night. I also felt for Jana as it seems like the life is being squeezed out of her and she has nothing left. Jessa is still vibrant and detached because she is almost out of there and her turn is next. Bravo to Ben and Derick who made those boobs look boob-ier.

Anonymous said...

So I just poured a glass of wine cause I need to start dinner and I had this thought…..maybe the jokes on us and they only act this way in front of of TLC. Close your eyes and try and picture what really could be going on there. After all they are making good money.

mom in texas said...

Behind Jill's eyes while her sister's called her perfect and cried tears over her getting married, you could totally see the "yep and it paid off too!" look. Jill was the dutiful daughter who bought into the program hook, line and sinker so daddy sold her off first. Her goody two shoe act bought her a one way ticket off of the compound and she gets to front- hug a boy before all her sisters. I always thought Jim Bob would hand Jill over to some fundie royalty family, deeply rooted in the Gothard lifestyle.

Anonymous said...

I'm losing my mother....take me with you, Jill! Poor thing:(

Anonymous said...

I was shocked to see her holding Marcus. I'm sure we don't see everything of course but I NEVER see her hug or kiss Mac or Michael. It's almost like she loses interest once the GRANDKIDS are weaned.

Anonymous said...

Duggars leave much to be desired....they better stay Dillard & Seewald. Are those last names correct? We don't hear them enough!!

Anonymous said...

That poor girl is so sad. She really has NOTHING to look forward to ATM. Unless she gets the courage to get up & leave that madness. Which I AM praying she does soon

Anonymous said...

RE: the comments about saying thank you - many Amish will not say thank you to someone because they believe it could instill a prideful attitude in the other person, like they have done something special. They don't consider it rude at all. Not having or possibly contributing to a prideful attitude is a very important part of Amish beliefs. I wonder if the Duggars had that same belief about pride at least in the past (although you wouldn't know it anymore by their behaviors now). I grew up with a similar belief in a very conservatice church long ago.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
How could it possibly have not embarrassed Michelle in the least when Jill said how she took care of baby Joy Anna and that she was her real life baby doll etc..?
I would have hung my head in shame being a mother who didn't do her job..what a jerk she is. Her daughters really should call her on the carpet about those things and tell here where to shove it, in "duggar terms". They should refuse to work that hard anymore especially with two going/gone..

9/24/2014 2:33 PM
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Especially given the fact that Jill is only 6 years older than Joy. Trusting a 7 yo to care for a 6 month old baby-ridiculous.
I guess she had the 8 yo pro, Jana, from whom she could seek advice.

Anonymous said...

John David comes off as condescending but I think he is extremely shy and socially awkward. That is what comes from isolating your children... that... and living in Josh's shadow his entire life

Anonymous said...

anyone notice ben is the only one wearing shorts? I wonder if this bothers the duggars since they said they do not wear shorts?

Anonymous said...

If the Duggars religious beliefs don't include saying thank you to someone, they should say so. The strange things the do and don't do really need to be addressed by them..all they refer to is their silly courtship rules over and over again,,,,say something NEW.

Anonymous said...

I wonder if Michelle insisted on seeing the letter Joy wrote. Which would be sad, since obviously it was very personal, but you know .... no secrets.

Anonymous said...

In regards to the above poster who wrote Michelle gave Jill a stiff far off hug..I honestly believe Jill is Jim Bob's favorite and Jessa is definitely Michelle's. How many other daughters has Michelle gone sky diving with? Had coffee alone with to just talk about life? The only one it seems Michelle really enjoys spending one on one time with is Jessa. She even told her she will hold her babies before her and Ben were engaged,. I don't recall her saying those things to Jill. I think maybe why Michelle enjoys Jessa's company so much is because she has a lot of spunk and sass, that maybe a few of her old non fundie friends/cheerleaders had when she was a teen. She seems to really treat Jessa as a good friend. I see Jim Bob having more of a connection with Jill.

Anonymous said...

Did anyone else get the feeling that Michelle didn't write her "how I feel about Jill" comments. I felt like when she was reading it (off her phone hmmmmm...) that she was surprised by what was written. The notes that came from her sisters seemed more genuine.

Katie's Mom said...

RE: The brunch at Anna's house. Altough, I was definitely one that thought it was all set up by TLC, in a repeat on my cable ( I only watched the brunch) the way the silverware was placed, with the knife & spoons to the left of the plates, & the forks to the right of the plates, perhaps Anna did set the table at least. I don't do many fancy dinners, but from all my cookbooks with proper table setting, I thought the fork went to the left of the plate, the knife & spoons to the right. Maybe Mac is already setting the table.

Anonymous said...

Is it just me or did Jana looked so displeased when Jill asked her to be her maid of honour? Jill has no social skills…she's so awkward when she speaks to her mom and sisters it's like they're strangers. That whole brunch thing was either set up (as everything else on this show is) or Jill is completely socially retarded. It seemed like Jana did not even write a letter? It could have been cut out but it looked like she just made up a couple of words on the spot. Her and Jill definitely don't seem "close" or like they share a "special bond." Also…how many times can Jill say "sweet" per minute? That would be a great drinking game. Take a shot every time Jill says sweet. You would be drunk before the first commercial. This goes back to Michelle training her girls on what to say and orders to obey. (i.e.: her teaching Jessa how to respond to Ben…by saying "aww. so sweet"…I'm sure she did that with Jill too). Michelle's letter to Jill was appalling…commanding her to always "do Derick good and not evil." These people need to get with the times. On a more positive note...I really liked the wedding dress Jill picked out, it didn't look as odd as most of the overly modest dresses look after they modify them and add a neck and sleeves. However, I thought the first two, especially the second one were WAY nicer.

Although it's nice to see John-David have his rude jokes served back to him…Jim Bob just solidified that his only desire for his kids is to marry early and have tons of children. Instead of picking on his son for being single, he should allow him to perhaps get a real education or get a place of his own. He's almost 25 with only a (homeschool) high school degree, he's never been alone in a room with a girl never mind kissed one, touched one or dated one. Not to mention when Jim Bob & John were sitting side by side it's so sad to see that John (like Josh) has the same out of shape and unhealthy physique as his almost 50 year old father. Don't these people pay any attention to health?! Not even after that massive scare Jim Bob and Josh had recently. The two of them act so tough and superior in front of Ben and Derick, yet they are such cowards in comparison to them.

Anonymous said...

I'm trying to become fluent in whatever language these people speak.
Ive learned the following:
blessing=child
Expecting=pregnant
Aww thats sweet=thank you
Courting=creepy sexless dating
Training=teaching
Grandma=laundry servant
Whatever the lord sees fit=i desperately want more little ones
Little ones=children

Theres so many others. Feel free to add your own discoveries.


Has anyone ever heard people use "diligent" the way they do? Ive heard it used before when describing someones abilities such as "you're a diligent worker", etc. But they just end it right there. I guess its a compliment to say "Jill, youre so diligent". Same as encourage. Michelle always says how she wants to encourage people. Isnt it more appropriate to say "I want to encourage people to be good Christians", or "I want to encourage people to believe the earth is 6,000 years old"? Its like cmon people. Finish your sentences. Its like they have these phrases and buzz words they just love to repeat over and over again. My guess is its an ATI thing, I remember seeing something in their website about being "quick to anger". - another phrase ive never heard outside of the compound. This encourages me to believe that these kids really have no hope of ever fitting in in any kind of mainstream society. Theyre handicapped socially and can only
function in a world that Jim Bob provides for them. Thanks for reading.

Anonymous said...

I don't understand "fit to be Duggars" crap. They are not Duggars because thankfully they are Dillards and Seewalds.

If you "give away" your daughters fully (according to their prescriptions) then you must know that they will no longer be in your tribe and they will belong to their husband's - that is what "cleaving to you husband" means! Can't have your cake and eat it too!

The Duggars flunked their own test and the Dillard and Seewald showed them who is tougher!

Anonymous said...

Their vocabulary is very limited. They repeat the same phrases and most everything is "special". This episode is fun to watch for me because of the rock climbing. Jim Boob thinks it is real professional rock climbing. The others know better. Embedded cable steps and hand grips. Platforms and graduated slow hill climbs do not equate to professional rock climbing. And the Duggar men wimp out and the others are gracious and kind to them in spite of their boorishness. Ben is young but he earned a bit more of my respect for the way he handled himself on the trip. Derick was his usual confident, well-mannered self. He deserves a woman not a 10 year old Daddy's girl.

Jana had to balance Marcus and try to eat at the brunch. Why were the 3 kids included in a women's brunch?????? Why did Marcus go to the dress shop? Ditch the kids and have fun like grown ups not 10-year old princesses.....and forever J-slave babysitters!!!

Anonymous said...

This is the absolute tackiest wedding invitation I have ever seen.

Who in the world puts a banner across the front of their wedding invite with a list of stores where they have registered?

I am appalled and embarrassed for them. See for yourself:

https://www.facebook.com/Jessaandben

Anonymous said...

I also didn't think that Michelle wrote that little speech to her daughter. I hope not anyway. The awful things she said about not doing evil? Come on,lady.
Glad to see Ben wearing shorts. I think the other should have too for what they were going to do (note to JB: don't cut off your jeans for that).
Why was Jana holding Marcus when she was trying to eat? Doesn't that poor girl get a break?
And YES, those prospective sons in law will retain their last names. They are NOT going to Duggars, Jim Bob, your daughters are going to be Dillards and Seewalds. Your grandchildren will carry those last names, sorry it doesn't work both ways.

Lesleigh said...

I have to wonder.........TLC has TW) bridal/wedding dress shows on. Say Yes To The Dress and Say Yes To The Dress-Atlanta.....yet Jill shopped in Virginia for a dress? I wonder how THAT happened? Kleinfeld probably have had enough from their first visit, and Lori/Monte in Atlanta were probably too over-the-top for the ultra-conservative Duggar's

Katie's Mom said...

RE: Anonymous 9/25 @12:35pm BINGO! You hit the nail on the head with the sentence that the Duggars, have their own phrases & buzz words that are repeated ad nauseam. You're also right on about the kids being socially handicapped, & only able to function in JB's world. If you're' new to the Duggars world, I applaud you for the accurate assessment of what has taken many of us a long time to grasp.

Anonymous said...

Wouldn't a suitable girl from an acceptable family not ever see Jim Bob's weirdo advertisement because she doesn't watch TV? Good call, JB. Smart.

Anonymous said...

I also wondered why Marcus was with the women when they were shopping for the wedding dress. Obviously Mac & Michael had been left at home with either their dad or a babysitter, at least they were not shown in the bridal salon. I hate it when they drag little ones to places they don't belong. It really is distracting to try watch a baby that age while you're supposed to focus on the bride & her choice of the right dress. Is it possible that Anna is still nursing Marcus? I don't remember what ages the others where when she stopped nursing. Again even if she was still nursing, there are bottles for those times a baby needs to be left at home. I'm sure we have seen Marcus eating finger food so I don't think nursing is the only reason for him to be there. They always have to drag a baby along to the most inappropriate places.

Anonymous said...

What's unfortunate is that because of their show, fame and wealth, yes I believe all the offspring will be Duggars in effect. There will be no other way. When you marry a Duggar girl (as well as boy), you marry INTO this family (there will be no sharing with the in-law families). Guys like Ben and even college-educated Derick sign up for this because they want to be patriarchs just like JB and ride the easy money train he offers, and they are weak "men" that JB or his brainwashed daughters can dominate. Had the show never taken off, JB&M would have to let their daughters follow their husbands. Just like Anna and a couple of the Bates girls-Alyssa and Michael. (I expect that Princess Erin will eventually leave with Chad too when she adjusts better). Since fundies love to control their children, I think it's the fundie dream to control the daughters as much as the sons after marriage, but only the Duggars have the fame/wealth power to accomplish the task. I believe JB&M will continue to choose mates for the girls with little ambition and/or means so they can mold them into Duggars and the couples will be on Duggar welfare (hence under Duggar thumb) indefinitely. They are already sufficiently wealthy to support 19 mega families and they know it-thanks to TLC, People/US mags, Duggar books, DVD sales, speaking engagements, product endorsements, fans in other continents they are now conquering, and more!). While I don't expect JB to risk picking any more educated boys in the future, Derick I believe was a safe bet if only because he's the mild personality type that will let Jill and her family rule the roost. JB wouldn't have hand-picked him and matched him up with the "perfect Duggar" daughter otherwise. Before long, Jill and her parents will convince Derick to leave Walmart or his supervisor won't put up with his travel schedule and his demanding wife who probably bugs him constantly at work (it's been reported she's there monopolizing him every day for lunch now--she's probably very insecure with him being out of sight and around other women). Derick being under Walmart's authority for his occupation is a no-no in the fundie world and will only be temporary.

Anonymous said...

Catch a baby= my tired uterus with another blessing

Jeannine Guidry said...

Why is Jill wearing a wedding band above her engagement ring in this episode? Seems to be that they are again going out of order with actual events in order to "script" things.

Lol, Jill, "my mom hasn't been able to have any kids in awhile." Probably one of my favorite lines.

Why don't the parents drive? Whenever they go anywhere one of the older kids is always driving. Do they not know how? I don't think I've ever seen Michelle driving.

Jessa and Ben seems so... I don't even know, not very genuine in their talking heads. They don't seem comfortable together.

John David always tucks his shirts in, which does not help with hiding his belly. You could also tell how fake the whole fire/smores scene was. If they were around a campfire, I doubt they would be sitting that closely. Also, the lighting was weird. How can you have a campfire with all those camera lights around.

Anna said thank you when Jill asked her to be a bridesmaid, which I thought was nice. She has so many sisters, she didn't have to ask her SIL.

I wonder if Ben and Derick get together and discuss the weirdness of the family they are married/marrying into.

Every time Jill said "how/so sweet" I could throw up. Talk about overkill. Anna's "letter" I don't even understand. Why would your SIL talk about how diligent you are? Doesn't make sense. Jill is in her early/mid 20's, Michelle should not, nor should the girls, be referring to their dad as daddy. Grow up. However, after Michelle and Jill hugged and she said, "you're going to be the most beautiful bride" that seemed really genuine and very un-Michelle like.

My favorites are definitely Jinger and Joy, I hope that they don't get sucked down the whole that Jill and Jessa seem to have.

Jinger was wearing knee-high boots to the dress fitting! And they looked fabulous. Anna is too, but her outfit doesn't quite go with them.

Oh my God, Derik's face from his headcam during zipling was fantastic.

The added clothing the other girls are going to wear in the next episode while they are trying on dresses just look stupid. Incredibly stupid. We get it, you're modest.

Sorry it was a long post, I recapped as I watched.

Anonymous said...

http://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/19-kids-and-counting-rules-of-romance-inside-the-duggars-world-2014249

So, this article basically says what we thought. The Duggar children DO NOT choose their own guidelines for courting. That is a line of you-know-what. Jim Bob and Michelle should just come out on the show and say that THEY set the boundaries for courting couples. Heck, they said it in this article...

Cheryl S. said...

I personally didn't see the episode, but I think Michelle was referring to Proverbs 31:12(KJV) "She will do him good and not evil all the days of her life."

It's sad that some of the little ones tagged along. Don't they know anyone other than the sister-moms who could babysit for the afternoon? The "say yes to the dress" moment is meant for the women of the 2 families (bride's & groom's). Jana is such an amazing multi-tasking mommy, holding one of the kids while eating her meal. Oh wait!! She's not a mommy, she's a 25 yr old woman who lives at home with no "happily ever after" ending of her own in sight.

Anonymous said...

Re: Anonymous 9/25 @12:35pm I would add to your list
A servants heart= child care & housework.

hello said...

According to the People magazine I got today, Jimboob is auditioning suitoes for Jana and Jinger via letters, emails and phone calls. He says that interested parties are looking for girls with really high standards. The article also says that Jessa is a midwife trainee and Ben is a real estate apprentice.
According to the article, Jimboob and Michelle play a cassette recording of their wedding ceremony and reenact it for their kids on their wedding anniversary.
Reading this article reaffirms my belief that Jimboob and Michelle control every aspect of their kid's lives and that they can't do anything without mommy and daddy's permission.

Anonymous said...

So I'm rewatching this episode and when Jim Bob said no kissing till you'red married I think Derick rolled his eyes and said "got it" under his breath. I think he's really annoyed by the courtship rules and yes I believe he's kisses a girl before Jill. Sorry Jill.

Anonymous said...

There were many comments made by Jim Bob which indicated to me that it is HE who makes the courtship rules and NOT the couple AT ALL. They just outright lie when they say otherwise...
I would like for them to be questioned about that directly.

Anonymous said...

Ben will make a "toast to love".....

Anonymous said...

"auditioning suitors'??? Gosh, those lucky girls. Ben is a real estate apprentice?? Since when? I thought he was JB's PA.

Anonymous said...

Side hug=awkward shoulder into armpit contact, thus preventing impure thoughts &/or hanky panky, that can be brought on by a normal hug. Supposed to be used by courting couples, but now apparently a family thing...

hello said...

Also from the People article:
"On 19 Kids and Counting Michelle frets about Seewald, who moved into a warehouse on the family compounds, making a "mistake" with Jessa. Ben realizes the responsibility before God and Jessa' s daddy, she muses. Jessa, on the other hand shares that no sex before marriage is "good motivation" for a short engagement."
The "mistake" Ben made could be anything from a full frontal hug to a kiss. In the episode where Ben moved in and Jess brought him lunch, Ben looked like he was leaning in for a kiss and then pulled away. It would he a natural reaction to want to kiss someone you are in a relationship with. I would bet that Ben has kissed a girl or two.

Anonymous said...

In response to Joy being Jill's "real life baby doll;" the Duggars seem to follow Mike and Debbie Pearl's parenting philosophy in "To Train Up a Child" (evidenced by blanket training,typical ATI beliefs, etc). A major message of this book is that children should literally serve their parents and Mike Pearl believes that a house full of 7 year olds should be completely self sufficient. They also teach that 7 year old children should be permitted to spank their younger siblings and have authority like a parent. Talk about screwed up.

Anonymous said...

I would imagine if it were the courting couple that made the courtship rules, they wouldn't be able to "make a mistake", whether it be in front of Jessa's Daddy or God. God didn't command those stupid courtship rules, the Duggars did. The "mistake" before God would be to have premarital sex, as that, I believe, God frowns upon. So, Michelle is contradicting herself, yet again. Jim Bob makes the rules. If he didn't why would he have said that HE decided that Jessa could go up to Ben's "room" only with a chaperone. Wouldn't that have been decided by Ben and/or Jessa?

Beth Anne said...

Re: "On 19 Kids and Counting Michelle frets about Seewald, who moved into a warehouse on the family compounds, making a "mistake" with Jessa.

First of all, where does Michelle get off speaking about someone else's "sin" in a national magazine? What kind of person does that, and what kind of future mother-in-law publicly reveals that her future son-in-law did something "bad?" A caring person would ensure such things are dealt with in private.

And, where does she get off being the arbitrer of how Ben can act and what he can do? Same with JimBob. They have these rigid rules for everyone around them, but have they ever taken a good long look at themselves and their own behaviors, motivations, etc.? Just very, very arrogant, in my mind.

And I also agree with what another poster said, that JimBob and Michelle will have a loooong talk with Derick and lay it upon his heart to quit his job, with Jill only oh-too-eagerly supporting her parents' position. That would be appalling, but I'd actually be shocked if it DOESN'T happen.

Anonymous said...

That means poor Jana isn't courting anyone. I was so hoping she was and that is why she has been in D.C. all summer and wearing that heart necklace.
Auditioning?! Sounds like something just for the show. Jim Bob has to keep all girls courting/engagements for ratings. I would especially love to see Jana court. She is so shy so I just hope she is not intimated at the thought of dating. I hope Jim Bob checks out every potential guy with thorough background checks. Spend the money and double check them all. There are too many whackos out there and now that the Duggar girls are famous, they may get all sorts of diff. guys applying. Sad that the Duggar girls can't find someone on their own. I understand they don't go to clubs but don't they have a church or a local library where they could meet someone? How sad arranged marriages must be!

Anonymous said...

Re Anonymous 9/26/14 "auditioning suitors'??? Gosh, those lucky girls. Ben is a real estate apprentice?? Since when? I thought he was JB's PA.

I think he is apprenticing under Boob and Mechelle since they are Real Estate Agents.

Judy said...

I think the reason why Marcus was at the bridal salon (if I had to guess) is because he is still being nursed, so he's being taken pretty much everywhere with Anna.

Judy said...

John David seems extremely awkward. He doesn't talk much, if at all, and he seems completely awkward. Hes 24 or 25, already losing his hair and overweight.

Judy said...

Michelle's "letter" creeped me out. The whole "giving your heart to a man other than your Daddy" thing....

Judy said...

I don't like Ben's current look with bowl-ish hair and beard. ot attractive. I wonder if their is a frowning down on facial hair in the Duggar family since I've never noticed them anything but clean shaven.

Judy said...

It's weird that a year ago, Jill had never even MET Derick. Now she's married to him and pregnant with his child.

mythoughtis said...

I don't think Michelle fretting about a 'mistake' means that one had already been made.... I think it means that it finally occurred to Michelle that Ben living in the 'guest house ' means that Jessa could sneak down there in the middle of the night. Something the rest of us would have already considered. They should have found a 'host family' in the area for Ben to move in with.

AstralFae said...

So I watched this episode whenit first aired and I swear there was a Ben/Jessa convo anout how afwul being apart for days and days was going to be with plenty of eye rolls from Jessa. I want my mom to see it so we watched the rerun both time we noticed it and the scene was missing. Am I insane? anyone know where I can see it or a transcript?

Ginger said...

I think the reason they might say Ben is a real estate apprentice is because, he's supposed to be JB's assistant. We're supposed to believe that JB's primary income is from real estate, not from being a TV star or celebrity, as that doesn't go with the ministry mindset. By the way, we haven't heard much about that ministry lately. No JB & Michelle giving their testimony all over the country. Guess there's more income from, "People Magazine," than from these churches they were speaing at.

Anonymous said...

Re: Michelle & JB trying to convince the public that the girls set their own rules for courtship & engagement.If that were true, when JB & Michelle say to the couple, no kissing before marriage, or worse "you cant do this yet," & then proceed to kiss in front of them. If the couple were really in charge of their own guidelines, why wouldn't they simply at some point just tell Michelle & JB, "well this is what we've decided for this stage of our engagement (or courtship). We feel vey comfortable sharing a kiss so we have decided to "tweek" the guidelines."
They don't do it because there are no guidelines at all...the law has been laid down regarding physical contact. Nobody is going to do anything that momma & especially Daddy don't approve of when it comes to physical contact.

AstralFae said...

The letter creeped me out too, Judy, but the prayers more than the heart. The heart thing was odd, southern girls usually hear the heart thing when they start dating. It is an admittly awkward way of saying you have another man in your life and is usually a joke. The prayer part sounds like she isn't allowed to say her own prayers or like her parents won't be allowed to include her in theirs after the wedding.

Anonymous said...

Re Hello's comments about JB advertising for suitors for Jana Jinger. That article from People is enough to turn my stomach. How much self-worth can a young woman have if daddy is advertising in a popular magazine for someone to court her. Michelle doesn't have a brain in her head to allow her daughters to be treated like chattel. I think most of us let our daughters go along with their lives, college, workforce, etc. Eventually they might meet the right person, followed by marriage. No advertising. There would have been no problem at all if they decided to focus on being a career woman, no marriage, no children. Good parents who truly love their children, want the best for them, & that s not advertising them as wives for whoever daddy happenes to approve of & trying to up the grandchildren count. Sickining

Anonymous said...

I feel compelled to write in re: John David, at the donut shop saying "give me," follow that by whatever kind of donut he wanted. That is a terrible trait that my own hubby had for many years. I never even noticed it until after our marriage. He would have a menu & would say to a waitress, "give me," fill in the rest. It took me awhile to break him of this bad habit. I was constantly telling him just say, "I'll have." It drove me crazy as I considered it extremely rude & it didn't take any effort to say, "I'll have."

Anonymous said...

Re: Anonymous said on 9/25/14...

This is the absolute tackiest wedding invitation I have ever seen.

Who in the world puts a banner across the front of their wedding invite with a list of stores where they have registered?

I did see the invitation. The font for the list of registries was large and bold. That doesn't bug me as much as what is in the registry. Multple guns/guns cases, machetes, knives, hatchets and even a slingshot. Jessa is parroting Ben also. Did anyone see her IG post on Atheism and comparing the Holocaust to abortion? She is a wolf in sheeps clothing.


sandi said...

I would venture to say Jim Bob probably has a decent security system and there will be no sneaking out of the house at night.It would set off an alarm.(The dorms are on the second floor anyway).This is jmo of course.

Anonymous said...

If the courting couples make their own courting rules, they couldn't "make a mistake" logically. They simply would have changed their rules and it would be up to then. Jim Bob wouldn't have anything to say about it. It's so obvious to even the casual observer of this family. How stupid do they think we are? The parents have ALL the control here. Otherwise, there would be "nothing to fear".

Anonymous said...

I HOPE she does!!!!

Anonymous said...

I just wanted to add to anonymous (9/25 @12:35 pm) comments about the language the Duggars speak. Did anyone else ever notice that they never say the word "bathroom." Even the younger kids will say they had to wait while someone used the "restroom." I have never heard one of them say they had to take a child to the bathroom it's always the"restroom."

Missy said...

I really wonder what the story is with Grandma Duggar (Mary)being a laundress & left alone to watch a number of little ones. These are not kids that can completely care for themselves, they still need help from an adult. We know Mary owned the yogurt shop & probably worked some other jobs at various times. She must at least get her own social security or her husband's social security. If she had looked into it she could probably get into,"elderly housing." If not a small apartment would be nice. She wouldn't need that large a place. She seems like a sociable lady. I remember she had a number of women friends when she went to the "widows banquet," that time. She could have her own friends over for an afternoon, or belong to a book club. I don't know if she still drives, but most towns have transportation available for elderly. It just seems there is something missing.No matter how much you love your grandchildren after a certain age, it's difficult to keep up with them. After all she doesn't just visit them for a few hours, she's doing their laundry, helping out with every need they have. She's only going to have more work when both Jill & Jessa are out of the house. Maybe it's just me, being around her age, but I would enjoy peace & quiet, not just a room or two off the kitchen, in my son's house. And worse still being being his wife's maid. Life is short, she must realize that, as her husband wasn't that old when he became ill & passed away. Time to enjoy her life. Her grandchildren can come & visit, when it's convenient for her.

Anonymous said...

The Duggars have also stated that Ben is housed in their guest house complete with bath and shower. How can this be? They also have stated on many occasions in the past that they also house the Hartonos in their guest house. Do they cram that large family in a loft in a warehouse on their property? Can't be because they showed the girls cleaning out that loft for Ben as it's first occupant. It looks like that boy is living in an unfinished warehouse loft with no climate control or facilities.
Please explain just exactly where this guesthouse is on their property and when it was built.
Also Ben is 19yrs old. Double his age, he's only 38. Jim Bob is MORE than twice Ben's age and is nearly twice Derick's age. That man has issues with reality and his own aging. What business does a man his age have in challenging those young guys to physical feats of endurance and bravery? I hope that is all scripted nonsense from TLC and they make JB follow the script. I would hate to think that he's really that immature and silly.

CatLady said...

Going back a few days to the "thank-you" thing-- could it be that they suddenly don't say thank you so that Jill can get out of writing hundreds of thank you notes for all the stuff on her bridal and baby registries?

Mary said...

I feel sad for Jill, already pregnant. After taking care of her siblings most all of her young life, wouldn't she want to take some time just for herself and her new husband? Maybe a year at the very least, to have some me time, do some traveling and enjoy quiet time in the home? I remember Anna freaking out with the pregnancy tests after 4 months of being married to Josh, because she was not pregnant yet.

I was hoping that maybe Derrick would encourage Jill to go to a real college and become a certified nurse practitioner so she could really put her skills to use. I think she's intelligent, and could go far. She had such an interest and love for what she was doing. I guess that was all just something to do until time for marriage.

Jana still seems sad. She smiles quite big but you can't hide the look in your eyes. I can only imagine how she must feel, still at home taking care of Michelle's children. Now the child rearing is up to Jana, Jinger and Joy.

My heart really went out to Joy. Jill IS her real mama, and her mama left home. Jill basically said that Joy was her baby, then quickly said her "baby doll".

Anonymous said...

I don't have as much hope for Derick as some on here do. He willingly sought out this family and even though he was in Nepal, since he grew up in the same area as the Duggars, he surely has to know a lot about them. I think he is committed to that lifestyle, or at least he thinks he is because he has stars i his eyes. Perhaps after the newness and excitement wears off, he will see it for what it really is, and gently pull Jill along with him to a more normal life. But I think that will be quite awhile down the road. The thing that may change it is after popping out one or two kids, they will realize how much work it is and how expensive it is, and decide to slow things down. While Jill likely remembers the leaner days, She has lived in relative luxury for quite awhile now, and I daresay would not want to be living in a trailer in rural Arkansas some day with a bunch of kids.

Anonymous said...

I read on facebook and im not 100% if its true. But if it is its proof someone reads this blog. Jessa supposedly is training to be a midwife. Say What?!

Anonymous said...

just saw a viedo and jill said she went barefoot on her wedding day? ok that is gross.

Whitney C. said...


just saw a viedo and jill said she went barefoot on her wedding day? ok that is gross.
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As a woman prone to nail infections, I can say it is very unhealthy to be walking around barefoot. Maybe Jill has never heard of ballet flats. She could have even worn flip flops. We all know she has a few pair in that shared closet of girls' shoes & clothing.

hello said...

In the story in Us magazine, it says Jessa is in training to be a midwife and Ben is a real estate apprentice. I don't believe either one. They are getting married soon and will most likely be announcing a pregnancy shortly afterwards as I am sure Michelle will give Jessa the same advice as she gave to Jill about always being available to your husband. Combine that with no birth control and Ben having to wait a year and chances are it will happen sooner than later.

Anonymous said...

Whitney C. said...
As a woman prone to nail infections, I can say it is very unhealthy to be walking around barefoot. Maybe Jill has never heard of ballet flats. She could have even worn flip flops. We all know she has a few pair in that shared closet of girls' shoes & clothing.

There is a picture of Jill and Derick leaving the reception and walking towards the getaway truck and it showed that she was wearing something white. It could have been white flat sandals but they looked more like flip flops to me.

Anonymous said...

Ok so it was on instagram that I saw about Jessa studying midwifery and it was a mistake that the page retracted. My bad.

Bubbles said...

I feel so sad for JohAnna. She's so precious and this must be really hard for her yet she has to keep up the cheerful happy act.

Anonymous said...

Yes the look on poor Jana's face did look displeased. It reminded me of the look my German Shepherd had on her face when I took her to the vet, & the vet had to put a finger in her bum.... Not comparing Jana to a dog of course I think she's very beautiful....you get my drift

Anonymous said...

Precious is another word in their vocabulary! In saw an episode once - the one where they visit the opry- where their guests say it too. And obviously were taught by them.