Tuesday, September 16, 2014, 9:00 PM, Duggar Dirty Jobs

With Ben Seewald having moved in, Jim Bob puts Jessa's beau to work with a full list of jobs for the day. Can Ben get them all done, or will his first day on Duggar duty be his last? Meanwhile, Jill & Derick go wedding band shopping.

30 minutes

115 comments:

taurus0385 said...

Ben is just another slave in the duggar parents eyes.

Judy said...

Why do we have to keep calling the nonDuggars by their first AND last names? We already know his name is Ben Sweewald. And Derick's name is Derick Dillard. Just call them Ben and Deric, for goodness' sake.

stupididiotshutup said...

I bet this episode will be special and such an encouragement to us all. (Gag!)

pretty girl said...

it is a waste to watch this show. ben doing this kind of work. when he was working at the state farm insurance company he was learning way more and growing. now he is back sliding. guess they fired him?

Anonymous said...

I didn't like the comment John David made instilling qualities in Ben. Do they not think his parents did a good job. I hope they really don't think like that.

no name said...

The duggars act like if the courting or engaged couples kiss or hold hands before they should it would be unpure. The bible never says it is.

Willow said...

Still no mention of Josiah? I also would like to know what Joe's job is. Is he a flunkie for Jim Bob too? They have never said a word about his hobbies or jobs (that I know of). Obviously, John David works for Jim Bob around the "place". Does he still even do the towing business? I'm beginning to think Jim Bob doesn't want to set up his kids in their own businesses at all. He wants everything to be a family business only - so he can be in control? My uncle tried a similar route and wound up estranged from all of his children. IMO, Jim Bob has taken control freakness to a whole new level. He could have just created clones or robots. Oh, and how will he provide enough jobs for all of the grandkids they are planning? I hope Derick keeps his "outside" job.

Anonymous said...

I agree that John David's comment about instilling qualities in Ben was insulting to his parents. I hope they make a HUGE deal about it.

Anonymous said...

"Why do we have to keep calling the nonDuggars by their first AND last names?"
I'm tired of this too. It's unnecessary and they sound very robotic every time they say it.

Rudy Tecat said...

I haven't seen the episode yet. Did Ben have to balance a check book, organize the bank receipts or install a wireless router? Or, was is sweeping, digging, cutting, carrying?

Anonymous said...

Well, everything is getting worse with each new episode – and I mean everything!

Ben, you poor, dumb kid – run for your life! You are never going to cut it with the Duggar family. You will always be the loser son-in-law that is under JB (and your brother-in-laws) thumbs. Jessa will eventually resent you and be repelled by your very existence. You do not have to take this kind of abuse by the Duggars – both you (and Jessa) deserve better.

This humiliation job by JB has to be his way of making you rethink this relationship with Jessa and hopefully run back to Hot Springs and school and normal dating with girls your age. You can have a happy life and I hope you do - just chalk this Duggar experience up to a youthful mistake and be glad you dodged the bullet.

Run away Ben…break the engagement and save yourself (you will take the blame as the weak loser that couldn’t even measure with a tape, but who cares – your 15 minutes of fame will be a forgotten memory in a few years).

Call your Dad and plan your escape – hurry. If not, you will be put in charge of The Duggar Port-a-Potty Cleaning Business which JB will establish so you have a job.

Anonymous said...

How low can Ben go? Run Ben Run!

Anonymous said...

John David must work really hard eating donuts every day and disappearing most of the time. He needs a trainer! Maybe he could learn something from Ben.

Anonymous said...

Let's see. Jill picks the church where her parents were married, displayed her mother's wedding dress at the ceremony and used the same jeweler that her parents used 30 years ago. No, this is not about JimBob and Michelle's narcissism at all.

Anonymous said...

I honestly am not sure what to even say about this episode.

If Michelle went with Jill and Derek to look at wedding bands to help them decide that is fine, if that is what the couple wants. But to go because she is the chaperone is too much. Here is a couple looking at their wedding bands and they can't be alone to even do that.

I guess Ben must really love Jessa and wants to be with her because I can't imagine being treated the way he was by doing the work he did. His parents should be ashamed of themselves for approving of their son moving there and cleaning up that mess. Most likely it was all scripted so hopefully get paid enough to do that.

I thought it was funny that John David seemed to make fun of Ben for not having a hammer or proper tools to fix the fence, but I wonder where his tools were. I also wonder how many of the Duggar boys have ever cleaned a bathroom, especially as filthy as those bathrooms were.

Michelle thinking how wonderful it would be for Jill to have 19 or even more children of her own. I sure have higher expectations for my girls than to just birth baby after baby.

Did anyone hear Grandma Duggar tell one of the girls that they didn't want a unicorn, like it was something horrible. I wonder if they think unicorns are something bad.

I think this show can only really go through two courtships, this will get old really fast.

Anonymous said...

Did TLC change producers on this show – it’s just terrible. What should have been the most fun season to watch is unbearable and so BORING. All they do is keep repeating the same conversations and the same information and who cares? Where is the real stuff – this is just staged and scripted and completely ruining what was interesting and hilarious to watch (and the Jessa and Ben storyline is a train wreck). They are totally blowing what could be a new group of viewers.

Trisha D said...

While watching the episode "Duggar Dirty Jobs" on Tue 16 Sept 2014, I noticed after Ben and Jessa hug, they gaze at each other for a second, and look like they are going in for a kiss. Of course, they refrain. Which leads me to believe these two are kissing (0ff camera).
Jessa seems more into Ben then before. i think she made a statement about children years after marriage. So, when they wed I don't think children are immediate in her future. Good For You, Jessa! Take time to know your husband and yourself!

Anonymous said...

Maybe the put downs of Ben are just another ploy. If TLC reads of these websites, they know that Ben is considered dim and immature. This could be their way of getting some sympathy for him.

Willow said...

Yes. I thought it was embarrassing for the Seewalds that they even asked Ben to come up there in the previous episode. I kept thinking, well, its for more TLC money. Hope that is the case. Still, why embarrass the kid? It did not come off funny, it came off condescending. I'm sorry, but windshield repair and insurance office are real jobs with real skills (how about you Joe?) I think part of the reason they tease Ben so much is that they are a little jealous. Ben is better looking and has a better build and takes care of himself. I think Josh and John are probably seeing that. I was also very disappointed that Ben and Jessa are apparently living by Duggars instead of Seewalds. Its starting to get sickening.

Anonymous said...

Did anyone else catch the exchange between Jim Bob and Jessa before Ben walked in the house?

JB: So how are things going with Ben?

Jessa: I’m marrying the guy.

Maybe JB was giving Jessa an opportunity to back out and after that statement he moved to Plan B: (make life humiliating and unbearable for Ben so he backs out).

geistmadl said...

Where to begin....parents are not needed to pick out wedding bands. John David is offensive. Instilling qualities? JD has no qualities except smugness and this isn't the first time he's treated the new guys like crap. And Ben is lazy. Lay-zee! Did anyone else notice the time jumping? He just moved in. After the wedding. Yet here he is before. And what is all this talk about excelerating the courtship? Even Jessatalked about getting married sooner. I think they already are married.

McKimberley said...

Did anyone notice how rude John David was when they were ordering donuts?

No "please", "may we have", etc. It was "give me 2 of those, give me 3 of the other ones".

For such "godly" people some of them lack very basic manners!

Anonymous said...

Did we REALLY have to see pictures of JB and Michelle's wedding, when Jill and Derick were choosing wedding bands? Did we REALLY have to hear Michelle say that Jill's band looks just like hers? Did we REALLY have to hear Michelle say that she and JB have plenty of pictures of themselves kissing while they were engaged?

Nope, we did not.....but we DID, nonetheless!

Anonymous said...

Me me me Mechelle talking to Jessa about grandbabies when her engagement hasn't been announced on the dog and pony show yet. This lady is obsessed with babies. Just plain cray cray.
I don't care for Bin and I think he's not the brightest bulb but, I felt bad for him in this episode. I wonder what his family thought when they watched him being delegated to clean a filthy bathroom and without gloves.
Jessa is not a Miss Happy Homemaker and she doesn't do anything else but make herself look "glamorous" and taking selfies. So what will she do after they are married? Burn more buns while primping in front of a mirror. Run Bin! Run back home.

Jennifer said...

To sum it up: Jessa and Ben deserve each other. They are no Jill and Derick.

Anonymous said...

OH MY STINKIN' HECK that was the nastiest toilet I've ever seen!!

And Michelle just can't NOT be the center of attention! Not only was it the same jeweler where she got her wedding rings but she HAD to comment on Jill's by saying "that is just like mine" or something to that effect.

Anonymous said...

This episode disgusted me.. Not just because he was cleaning nasty restrooms, but because it was like the Duggars were hazing Ben. Then for John David to say "we want to see if Ben has the the skills he needs to make a good husband" Ya thats what makes a good husband cleaning toilets. SMH.. And Jessa saying "Hopefully living here will rush an engagement." Its like she just racing to the alter and Y???? Michelle proves over and over she is a baby-attic "If all my kids have 19 children"...And the last thing is if its such a priority to have Ben so "Skillful" why the hell doesn't she know how to cook isn't that a cardinal rule for women in there house..

Special Ed Lady said...

Why couldn't Michelle go to a different store or get a cup of coffee, somewhere. Did she think Derrick and Jill were going to do something inappropriate in the jewelry store.

Judy said...

I think what Michelle said (and correct me if I'm wrong) is that she didn't think any of her kids would have 19 kids like she did. Of course not! Michelle is SPECIAL.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous 7:15... The couldn't go ring shopping by themselves. What's worse, in one of the previous episodes, they had to take a chaperone along to visit Derrick's sick mother in the hospital! Seriously, if they don't have enough self control to not jump each other in a hospital, well then they are not adult enough to be married!

Reality TV Junkie said...

"Did anyone hear Grandma Duggar tell one of the girls that they didn't want a unicorn, like it was something horrible. I wonder if they think unicorns are something bad."
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Well they were making wedding gifts, meaning things for their home together. Do you think Derick would really want a unicorn?

Anonymous said...

I was horrified by the dirty toilet scene. Really? Did we need to see that? Ben must be as dumb as a stump to be treated like (or worse than) hired help. Is he so love sick that he will be totally dominated by the Duggar machine? SO pathetic!!

Anonymous said...

What really creeped me out was the expression Michelle gave when taking about grand kids. That woman is obsessed with babies and once they are walking they are forgotten about. And I think Anna is doing the same thing with Mac... I feel sorry for Jill, all she has to aspire to is birthing more kids than her mom.

Coleen said...

The unicorn is mentioned in the OT. It is believed that the unicorn didn't make it on the ark. I don't believe they are seen as bad.

Anonymous said...

I thought the unicorn comment was weird too until I realized some of the kids were picking out cool things that kids like, such as unicorns. Michelle wanted them to choose items like the platter and other items they could actually use. Looks like JB used that toilet after eating Taco Bell so Ben would have to use some serious elbow grease!

Anonymous said...

Unicorns are mythical creatures therefore sacrilegious.

Anonymous said...

Wow...Just wow! Ben's parents needs to wake up and get him out of there! Jim Bob's personal assistant??? It seems they plan to go out of their way to humiliate that poor boy. Go to school and finish your education Ben.

Dar said...

I wonder if Ben's parents watch the show. How condescending was that smirk on John David's face. It was so unnecessary for Ben to be treated like he was. No girl is worth that humiliation. It is so unfortunate that he left school or whatever job he held to become JimBob's lackey. Surely, his parent`s want more for him. Sorry for being offensive, but It would be productive, in my view, for Ben to visit a house of ill repute. Maybe that would clear his head (no pun intended).

The state of that toilet was disgusting. Where does JimBob find these places. What is also disturbing is that this is another young person wasting his life in Duggarville.

pretty girl said...

nice guest house they put him in. I would not want to be one of their guest their. I so agree run ben run. how horrible and awful for you. use the talent God has given you somewhere else. He could be learning way more at that insurance office than for the duggars. wake up ben and mr seewald. and come and pick up your son now. hope the duugars read all our comments because my heart is sad for this young man.

Anonymous said...

Who is John David to know anything about relationships? He is a 24 yr old virgin who can't even think of women until Jim Bob finds him a fundie approved wife.

Anonymous said...

Ben & Jessa are engaged now, obviously, but I wonder how his family reacted when they saw the episode of Ben being treated like he was an idiot by JD. I wonder if his family will see enough & step in. And cleaning those awful bathrooms. No gloves!!!! I know he said he used to be a huge germaphobe & wore gloves when he was younger & cleaning family toilets. So strangers poo & filth aren't as bad as your family's? Seriously? I wonder if gloves were even available for him. & how did Jim Boob expect him to get all those tasks done in one day? Obviously he does nothing himself so he wouldn't know what it all consists of AND he usually has about 10 minions to help him out. Jerk.

Anonymous said...

My opinion is if the Cross Church where Jim Bob and MIchelle married is so important and special to them, why don't they still attend that church? Because they want to do what they want to do and not follow any real religion, that's why, IMO.
They should be attending if it so important to them, they are just hypocrites.

no name said...

I think Bens parents want him to be an adult. He is a legal adult so unless they want to be like the duggars they don't want to dictate his life. I'm sure they talked about all of this before Ben left home.

Murphy said...

Yeah I think the unicorn comment was just because they were trying to have the kids decorate useful items for Jill and Derek. I doubt it was because the unicorn was evil.

Anonymous said...

For the first time I just looked at Ben's Facebook Page. Under his name on the heading it says, "Business Person."

Oh Ben....you really are lost in a testosterone haze.

MCL said...

Someone in an earlier comment referred to Michelle as Me Me Me Mechelle. That is a perfect name for her! She can't stand that the attention is now on Jill. I find her to be the worst mother ever. She is so jealous and does not seem to connect with her kids on any level. And her hair looked absolutely terrible in the jewelry store. She is one scary woman.

Anonymous said...

I, too, felt JB and JD were NOT very Christian in their treatment of Ben. I felt humiliated for him. I'd be very angry if I were Jessa. And if he were my son I'd try to get him out of there. Has there been any comment from Mr. Seewald on his blog?

CannedSoup said...

I, too, felt sorry for Ben. Ben, if you are reading the comments here, please reconsider your current path---not so much about marrying Jessa, as thinking about finishing your education first---really setting yourself on YOUR path and not something chosen for you by others. You deserve better than cleaning Duggar toilets and living in an airless room. If Jessa loves you, she will wait for you...and you can BOTH be truly educated in the meantime.

hello said...

I believe Jimboob somehow coerced Ben into proposing to Jessa. They believe that courting should always lead to marriage. Michelle dated other boys before Jimboob came along and saved her and I don't think he ever got over that. He is treating Ben like hired help, but he agreed to it so he could be closer to Jessa and be able to see her more often. Ben seems more infatuated with Jessa than she is with him. I find it sad that she feels the need to change her personality to make Ben happy.

Why does John David feel he has the right to test Ben to make sure he is good husband material? He is a 25 year old virgin that has never been in a date and has grown up with his sisters yelling NIKE to make sure he wasn't defrauded by a woman. That's almost as laughable as the older Dugger girls writing a book that included advice on dating boys when none of them had ever been on a date.

Anonymous said...

Hi I just look up the Baby Registry for the Dillard , i hope they use that last name but on the list they want soda pop for the late night they stay up with the baby and baby foods ok they baby not here yet you would think as many babies she has hepled with , youdont ask for some baby food tell they have some little teeth and the bay not hear yet LOL

Anonymous said...

I totally agree. This show has gotten so boring. I'm so sick of hearing about "now that they are engaged they can hold hands".

Anonymous said...

Anonymous 9/17 at 10:10 am. If JimBob wanted Jessa and Ben's courtship to end, he would just order it so and they would cook up some reason why it was over. I believe, as some others have stated, that Jim Boob is pleased that he will be able to manipulate and control Ben and Jessa forever. JimBoob will make sure his blessings don't fall in love with any independent thinkers who may really want to marry one of the "J" kids and move away and live their own lives without being under the thumb of the head of the Duggar clan.

Anonymous said...

The book that the Duggar girls wrote has NO validity at all. These naive, brainwashed girls are giving advice on finding the right guy? You can't be serious? They have never dated or known any boy except their brothers and the ones Dad picks for them. They can't even drive to the store without a tattletale sibling going with them.

Anonymous said...

Mythology says only a virgin can train a unicorn. Perfect gift for the Duggar girls!

Londonbridges said...

I personally wasn't encouraged in the least by the humiliation and appalling treatment of Ben. While I think he seems very immature, he didn't deserve that. How would Jesus have treated Ben, JimBob and JD? Just some food for thought. As always, JMHO.

Anonymous said...

I would never think to put soda on my baby registry. It's not about me, it's about my baby needs. Diapers, wipes, clothes, a crib, a car seat, etc. I can buy my own caffeine. I don't need to ask my guests to do so because that's taking away from what my baby needs. How tacky! These registries are all huge gift grabs. Didn't Jim Bob and Michelle teach their children proper etiquette?

And why didn't they wait until she was at least 20 weeks? Your miscarriage odds greatly diminish by then and you also know the sex of the baby.

SweetPea said...

It seems like JB is always throwing out Michelle's past. He keeps mentioning she dated LOTS of boys before him and was kind of a party girl and he doesn't want his kids to make the same mistakes.

Anonymous said...

Jim Bob gives Derick and Jill that house to live in until he sells it. Translation: I'll let you live here rent-free for as long as you like, as long as you do what I say. If not, find another house to live. I'm selling it.

Jim Bob gives Ben a job. Translation: I'll let you work for me, doing menial labor without the benefits of an education. I'll be the provider for your future family. If you don't do what I want I will fire you. You will have no other skills or education to fall back on. In other words, I own you.

Derick and Jill: you can find another house to live in. Pay for it! That's called being a responsible adult.

Ben and Jessa: WAIT a little bit before marriage! Ben: Get an education so you can support Jessa without scrubbing your FIL's toilets. You are 19 years old, you have your whole life ahead of you! Don't rush marriage so you can have sex. The overwhelming passion you feel WILL fade! You may eventually find yourself married to someone you cannot stand while at the same time being owned by your father-in-law. You will be trapped. DON'T DO IT!

I hope Ben's parents are telling him not to rush things after seeing that episode. He's throwing his life away. It's like watching a train wreck. Very, very sad!

All because he wants to have sex. That's the only reason why he wants to get married so young. Jill even admitted that she rushed to marry Derick so they wouldn't fall into temptation. BAD reason to get married!

Anonymous said...

Any prospective father-in-law that would put a young man into this kind of humiliating situation with John David and a national TV audience is not deserving of a future relationship. Ben's father needs to lay down the law with Jim Boob, John David and his son. Jessa is not worth this!

capslock said...

Such hypocrisy - Buy Used & Save The Difference is the slogan that's drilled through our heads almost every episode BUT everyone else should pay FULL PRICE to buy US what we want on our registries for babies and weddings. UNREAL!

Anonymous said...

Ben only accomplished 2 out of the 5 tasks on JB's list. I know if I was doing work for my future father in law I'd bust my back to get ALL of the items done!

And when they were reupholstering the stools, Jessa saying how she'd probably be a mom in a year or 2 and that she's "so excited"....she did NOT look excited!

Anonymous said...

Wonder if JB and M had to take her mother with them when they went wedding band shopping. Never seen a family so obsessed with sex.

Anonymous said...

I think the way Jim Bob and John David treat Ben (especially in this episode) is disgusting. I actually like Ben, but he looks so stupid giggling and going along with this abuse on camera. I truly can not fathom the idea of his parents watching this and not being alarmed. This is their teenage son, who is about to marry into this abusive family. Everyone says that Jessa does not seem to feel the same way for Ben as he feels for her, but I disagree. At first I was a little skeptical of their relationship, but I can genuinely see that Jessa really, really cares for Ben.

Anonymous said...

Yeah...John David was kinda condescending. I feel bad for Ben, really. Princess Jessa is going to be a hard one to keep happy. It's really ironic how Ben has to learn how to do all these things to be suitable for a Duggar girl, yet Jessa is admittedly lacking in her wifin' skills.

Anonymous said...

I don't like Ben much but I did feel bad for him in this episode and I still do but I also got to thinking. When Jim Bob told Ben that he thought he should move to the compound he was seeing Jessa only twice a month so not much camera time and not much money to be made to support Jessa. So Ben moves to the compound to get more camera time and more money on top of what Boob is supposedly paying him thus the means to support Jessa. Although the grunt work given to him was crass, he did get more air time and probably was paid more and it goes for future episodes. I think this part is great for Ben but then he shouldn't have been subjected to what was shown on TV. When Ben's dad thought it was a good idea for him to make the move I don't think he realized that his son was going to be assigned the kind of work he was given and Pa Seewald may be regretting encouraging Ben.

Lisa Vanamerongen said...

I agree. John David thinks highly of himself however he doesn't know one thing about being in a relationship.

Patrice said...

I really don't care for Ben, but to see someone treated like that is really sad, whether I personally like him or not. If that was my son and I saw that on TV, I would be in the car before the show was over and bring him back home. If he and Jessa really think they are old enough and in love enough to be married, then the Seewalds should rescue her too. If his parents care, they should let them live with them for awhile, or help them set up an apartment and teach them both some skills, like how to register for college and find jobs. How disgusting can JB get, treating someone like that. Really good example of a caring Christian man...not. Ben, pack up and hop on the next bus. Slavery was abolished many many years ago! Have some pride in yourself, young man. And Seewald parents, if you are reading this, do you not care any more than to ignore this setting you threw your son into?

Anonymous said...

I have to say, I don't think it's strange that Michelle is accompanying Derek and Jill on their wedding planning outings. My mom did because she knew more and asked different questions.

What I find strange is similar to what everyone else is saying -- Ben may not be as blue collar, but because he will be in desk work does not mean he won't be a good provider for Jessa.

John David was super rude when ordering donuts. The older duggar boys all give me the creeps a little bit. Like they got the worst of Jim Boob, with the raging sexism and ego and none of the politeness or respect for others.

Anonymous said...

This episode proves why Bens mom was clearly not happy with the idea of him moving in with overlord Duggar.

Anonymous said...

I just saw the episode where Jill, Derick, & Michelle went shopping for the wedding bands. In a talking head moment Jim Bob was saying what a small wedding he & Michelle had. He stated that he thought that Jill would probably have a much larger wedding than, "Michelle & I's had." It truly sounds like he's saying, "Michelle & eyes." I have heard him say this more times than I can count, over the life of this ministry, "Michelle & I's." Can't this man form a simple declarative sentence? I thought it could be a regional thing but other blogers say no, it's just Jim Bob. What a poor
example to a house full of children. You would think the producers would correct his poor use of the English Language, since it's going to be on TV. In case the producers don't know, the proper English would be; Jill's wedding is probably going to be a lot larger than the one Michelle & I had, or Jill's wedding is probably going to be a lot larger than ours was. But no way is it, Jill wedding is going to be a lot larger than Michelle & I's was. And to think this man is laughing ll the way to the bank!

Tammy C said...

It looks like they didn't get much done on the list due to lack of tools.Jim Bob should have made sure Ben had them or tell him what he would need to work for him.

Cleaning that toilet was absolutely gross.How did the Duggars let it get that way.Do they not clean up after themselves??

Anonymous said...

I have a son & I would never allow anyone to embarrass or denigrate him the way the Duggars are doing with Ben. The Duggar men are a disgrace. Ben should get out of there yesterday There are plenty of other girls out in the big world Jessa is not worth this. What's wrong with TLC that they think families want to see a young man treated this way? This is some Christian family. I still believe Maya Angelou's words of wisdom: "When people show you who they are --- believe them."

Anonymous said...

I've noticed the poor grammar, too. Do they really think they're educated?

I hope John David never gets married. He creeps me out, too.

Leigh Ann said...

I just watched this episode this morning. I felt so bad for Ben fighting that tape measure. I need someone on the other end, too. John David told Ben he should always have a screwdriver in his truck. JD is supposed to teaching Ben, he should have made sure Ben was fixed up with his own toolbox and made sure it went with them. And where was he going off to that was so important he had to leave Ben to start the window by himself. Jim Bob said Ben only got two of the five things done on the list but that was John David's fault. The things Ben knew how to do, like cleaning the toilet, got done. He wants to do well and please JB and Jessa and John David was styming him. I hope things got better after that. I liked when Jim Bob asked Ben what they'd done so far and he said "Well, we bought a box of donuts". I laughed at that. Sounds like some of the people in my family.

Anonymous said...

Ben is young, immature, not the brightest person and is most likely only thinking about being able to be alone with Jessa.
Jessa is a little distant, cold and self-centered. And what does she do besides laundry??? No job, education or interests that I've ever heard of. Also, she never seems too interested in being a mother and really doesn't seem the motherly type.
The only way their marriage will work is if Ben is a yes man and she can do/not do just what she wants.

Aimee said...

I am confused as to why the couples need to take the little kids/parents along as chaperones when they are filming. Early last season, when Jessa attended a family gathering at Ben's, they sat on the porch and she said to the crew, "I have to have a chaperone. Never thought you'd do this, did you?" By using the crew as the chaperone, the couples could have enjoyed Jill's birthday without poor James being carsick in the backseat while Jill talks sweetly to Derick and they could have picked out their wedding rings basically alone with just the crew as a silent chaperone.

Anonymous said...

This episode was the first one I ever had to turn off because I could NOT take another minute!! Not that I'm a fan of Ben, honestly I don't find him "likeable" at all, but the way he was treated just made me change the channel,I guess it was more the attitude of the Duggar men was what disgusted me most..and yes I thought about what his parents must think, sorry but no way would I be happy to see my son treated that way no matter what! I found this episode very disturbing.

Anonymous said...

I've never known an engaged couple to take the bride's mother along when buying (not just looking at) wedding rings either as a chaperone or otherwise. But since Michelle managed to barge in on the situation, she could have at least sat unobtrusively in a chair by the door pretending to read a book so that the couple could have a few moments of privacy during such a special event. She had no business being at that counter next to the couple, immature as they are. Even if invited, a mature parent would have thanked them for their thoughtfulness, but politely declined. Less politely she could have said, "If the two of you are mature enough to buy wedding rings and get married, you're old enough to go into the jewelry store and buy them without Mama hanging onto your elbow."

Anonymous said...

Anonymous, Jessa doesn't do the laundry, Grandma Duggar does that. Jessa does even less than you thought.

Anonymous said...

Hi I have very poor grammar myself i dont know way but really Dr Pepper and gift cards for subway ,they need to worry about what baby needs not what they want very sad.

NanaD said...

I hope that I am not repeating someone else's comments. I checked and didn't see anything. I have been wondering if anyone else has noticed that the new windows were already in place even before Ben moved in. Without mentioning why (as far as I can tell), the girls put up rectangular pieces of curtain material on Ben's "windowless" wall. I think they needed to hide the fact that they had already put in the windows. I think the room as it stood failed to meet codes for human habitation so they filmed the window episode and then covered it up.

mythoughtis said...

==By using the crew as the chaperone, the couples could have enjoyed Jill's birthday without poor James being carsick in the backseat while Jill talks sweetly to Derick and they could have picked out their wedding rings basically alone with just the crew as a silent chaperone==

Mr. Jim (the crew) refused to act as chaperone when Jessa and Ben were on the porch swing. I don't blame him. He's not there to protect their 'purity' but to film what happens.... especially if they decided to break their courtship rules.

Lisa Vanamerongen said...

John David is exactly like his father. He lacks common sense and likes to point out the faults of others.

hello said...

Why would Jessa and Ben even need a chaperone while they were sitting outside eating at a family gathering? Can't they be trusted to eat together without something happening when there are people in the house? As much as Jimboob and Michelle think they did such a great job of training their children, they sure don't seem to trust any of them. I don't believe for one minute that the kids make their own courting rules. Jimboob and Michelle set the rules and standards and the kids are expected to obey them without question. I find it irritating when Jimboob and Michelle kiss and hold hands when they are around the kids courting and say-you can't do this yet.Is that supposed to be an incentive to get enagaged and get married as soon as possible?

Anonymous said...

I think Bens father is addressing the Duggars lifestyle in an indirect way. Read his latest article on why the seewalds need the gospel. Very interesting.

Anonymous said...

I understand if "having chaperones" is your belief. But I don't understand why it has to be all or nothing. I mean, as someone else stated - if they are going ring shopping, can't Michelle go down the street for coffee or a an errand or two while the engaged couple goes in the jewelry store? It's ridiculous to think that they are going to be sexual in a public place.

To this day, I cannot fathom how a couple can get to know each other with a constant chaperone. How can you ask really, really personal questions? And who pays for the chaperone if they're a child? Who would want to "babysit" on their romantic date every single time? It just doesn't make sense. I know even people with the best intentions can fall into physical temptation, but there are times when it is absolutely necessary to be alone to connect and talk on a deeper level.

And Ben, bless his little heart. If he were my 19-year-old son, I would be so upset of his circumstances. I truly believe Mr. and Mrs. Seewald are only okay with Ben's current circumstances because he's marrying a Duggar... fame, money... they're caught up in it and mesmerized. I don't care how much money or fame someone has, if my son were moving into a little dinky guest room and doing "odd jobs" and cleaning toilets, I would be beyond upset. Goes to show that the Seewalds are entranced by "Duggar Fame"... What if the Duggars were a poorer, unknown family? Would the Seewalds be okay with their son moving there and doing little jobs around the home place? I would be mortified if Ben were my son and all that potential was being wasted in the name of fame and wanting physical intimacy with Jessa. The only way that boy has a hope of supporting a family (and I bet he's a dad in less than a year) is TLC fame and money, and I bet that's what he's banking on (and the Seewalds too...).

Anonymous said...

I get the feeling that Derick would be okay with NOT having a "quiver full of little ones." I think Jill is the one controlling that, and he's just along for the TLC ride. He seems like an intelligent young man, but more and more I can see him getting sucked into the fundie thing. Even the way he speaks is Duggar-ish: saying "aaaand" and looking at Jill in awe when she talks... Derick has really picked up on the Duggar ways, and he fits right in. I thought maybe he would show Jill that you can be a Christian without having a thousand kids, wearing ankle-length demin, or having no TV (I did not notice a TV in their new home, did anyone else? And I bet anything Derick watched TV before meeting Jill). However, I did see some pictures of Derick and Jill at an Arkansas Razorback game, and I bet that was something Jill previously considered a sin (attending and cheering for something as trivial as football). So maybe Derick has shown her that there are fun things to do as pastimes that actually are not sinful - like sporting events. But I bet they won't be seen at the movie theater (which I also bet Derick did before Jill). Wonder if Jill would agree to going to a play? Phantom of the Opera? Les Miserables? Lion King? I bet Derick would, but I bet Jill thinks it is sinful.

Anonymous said...

I thought Jill looked annoyed at James in the car when James was complaining of feeling ill. And the poor boy looked so sick. In fact, Jill looked queasy too. But I noticed Jill's facial expression looked a lot like Michelle's expression when they were rushing Anna to the midwife's house to give birth to Marcus. Derick and Jill both seemed really annoyed with James. My guess is that Derick thinks the chaperone thing is unnecessary and aggravating, but was forced to agree to it to get Jill.

Anonymous said...

I can just see baby Seewald in a Roe vs Wade onesie. That future little blessing doesn't stand a chance. Assuming the wedding goes forward as planned, of course.

Anonymous said...

"Without mentioning why (as far as I can tell), the girls put up rectangular pieces of curtain material on Ben's "windowless" wall. I think they needed to hide the fact that they had already put in the windows."

I wouldn't be surprised. I watched that Kids By the Dozen show and they showed the one family (the Winters) who were opening a store. They showed them painting the outside of the building purple. I read later that they had already painted the building but the producers wanted that for the show so they painted over in white and then re-painted purple for the show. Rather than doing real-time reality, they did a re-creation of something that really happened earlier. They do that a lot with the Duggars, too. Like Jill saying she wanted to go to Nepal and meet Derick. That was important to the storyline and no one was around to film it when it happened so they re-created it. Although I don't think it was necessary for us to see Jill ask. A quick re-cap would have caught us all up, we know life goes on when the cameras aren't rolling. Maybe they need a few flip cams around the house (they all have cellphones, the could use those) and they can work in some home footage. It seems like there was one "reality" show that did that, it would say "Mom cam" or whatever.

Anonymous said...

I did not see any windows in the shed room that Ben now has. The curtains were hung over the openings in the wall. I wonder how hot it must be in there. Surely a shed does not have central AC????? Bathroom??????
Ben should have politely turned down the offer to live there. He would be better off commuting and staying in a hotel 1 or 2 nights a month.

Anonymous said...

I agree with Jennifer. Jessa and Ben are definitely no Jill and Derick.

Anonymous said...

Quick question is Jessa and Ben going to live in the guess house here Ben lives now or is daddy duggar going to let them live in a rental like JOSh,& Ann Jill& Derick

Anonymous said...

The way Jim Bob was laughing at the work that he gave Ben to do makes me hope that all of that was scripted and Ben was going along with the script. However, since this is suppose to be a reality show I wonder how the Duggars can go along with what is essentially a lie.

What I don't understand is why it was so important for Ben to clean a bathroom when we know that the Duggar boys sure aren't cleaning any bathrooms and certainly wouldn't be cleaning them when they are married, after all that is womens work. They make it sound like Jessa is going to be sitting around like a princess while Ben is doing all the work. I wonder Jim Bob would have felt if Josh had been made to clean a nasty filthy bathroom in preparation of marrying Anna. I don't remember seeing Mr. Keller put Josh through anything like Ben was put through to prove he could take care of Anna. There seems to be a double standard.

Ginger said...

I think the whole Duggar ministry/show has gone over the brink with all this craziness with the way Ben is being treated. I don't particularly care for him either, but I like to think I would treat any human being better than the Duggars are treating him. They are just making a joke out of Ben. I wouldn't stand for it, if my son was being treated that way. What's wrong with his parents? Then you have Michelle standing at Jill's elbow while she picked out her wedding band. Did anyone else notice that Michelle said "that's just like mine?" I'm more than through with these people. I won't even give them the courtesy of calling them Christians, because I know you don't need to be a Christian to act like a human being.This show has become a joke

Anonymous said...

The Duggars keep mentioning this guest house they seem to have on the property that visitors like the Hartonos stay in while there. I really would LOVE to see that guest house. They also claimed that Ben was going to live in it. All I saw was a loft that was cleaned out in a metal storage building...am I missing something here? If there is a guest house, please let's see some photos of it and exactly where it is on the property.
Also, does anyone out there know where Jill and Ben are going to live? Certainly with a Nov 1st wedding they already have that taken care of. My guess may be Josh and Anna's old house..

d carlson said...

Is JBob's work approach toward Ben a Duggar form of hazing?

Do JBob and J'ichelle give the "olders" a portion of the TLC paycheck for the part they play in it? It doesn't look like Jessa or Jinger have a paid job. Jana is said to be a Doula but does she get paid? Same with Joseph coming up on 20 and Josiah who is 18.

Anonymous said...

Good points made here, 9/22. I don't remember Mr. Kellar doing anything but talking to Josh as to what his intentions were with Anna and their spiritual life together after marriage. Yes, Josh did NOT have to clean the Kellar bathroom or the camper out front. No hoops for the Duggars to jump through here..and YES, it's been obvious to me that Duggar males don't clean bathrooms OR anything at home.
Why did Ben have to? It goes to show you how ridiculus this show is becoming as we didn't see any of this scripted nonsense for Josh and Anna. Mr. Kellar didn't "ask" Josh to move down to Florida to be closer to actually see Anna while they courted, they courted over the phone, talk about sucking eggs.....she got the shaft on that one.
If Josh had to jump through hoops, Jim Bob would have told Mr Keller to pack sand buddy. Jim bob should be told she same.
I also wholeheartedly believe that those kids, all of them, receive NO separate pay for their appearances on the show or anywhere. I bet dollars to doughnuts that family is compensated across the board for everything in the "Duggar Family Trust" account. These kids have nothing...that's why Jessa has no money, Jill either. TLC has to follow the law in paying the family for the show, and I'm sure Jim Bob's lawyers found a way to word the contracts so all the money goes into one account while seeming to pay the kids individually according to the law, but Mama and Daddy retain all the cash in the trust account that only they have control of. Someone should find out who Jim Bob's lawyers, estate planner and tax accountants are. I'm sure they aren't from Tontitown. Not to insult any professional who has a practice in Tontitown, but this is really big bucks here and he needs some "big guns" to represent him.

tater tot said...

I hope John David watches and listens to this episode. His treatment of Ben is NOT christian like nor is it funny, as he seems to think/act his smug look as he belittles Ben is not right. It makes him look arrogant to put it nicely. He also needs to get himself to a doctor to have his health checked out..for his age he is letting himself go down the path of Josh and Jimboob. He needs to leave the donuts alone. Ben on the other hand looks to be very fit. I hope Duggar influence doesn't put Ben in the same situation. *RUN BEN RUN*

hello said...

I for one don't feel the least bit sorry for Ben. He chose to go along with Jimboob's plan to go live there and join the Duggar circus. John David is becoming just like Jimboob. He seemed to enjoyed talking down to Ben. Making him clean those toilets was disgusting. How is being able to clean a toilet going to make him a good husband? The Duggar boys certainly don't clean toilets in theor own home and would never he expected to. They mentioned more than once that the purpose of having Ben move ther le was to speed up the time for them to get engaged. They courted for a year before getting engaged which seems like a long time in Duggarville. It makes me wonder if along the way if either Jessa or Ben expressed any doubt about their relationship. It's sad that the Duggar kids have been trained that a courtship should always lead to an engagement and then marriage. They are never allowed to talk on the phone, text, skype or go on a date without someone with them. They are only allowed to he alone once they are married. What would happen if a couple months into the marriage they find out they are not really compatible. I am sure they would be strongly "encouraged" to stick it out. I don't think they would ever consider divorce under any circumstances.

Anonymous said...

I believe that it was time for Jim Bob to divert attention away from his family and the whole Gothard issue. He didn't like to be asked directly about his beliefs as he like to control what he spouted out about them and only what he wanted to reveal in his chosen wording. Sooooo, it was convenient to draw everyone's attention to his courting daughters. They don't seem to be asked about the Gothard thing anymore do they? Smart tactic. Let's not forget to remind Jim Bob about the Gothard thing and how they seem to be quietly backpedaling away from that by advertising a NEW curriculum for their kids and I'm sure are being paid for their endorsement and receive all their materials for FREE... I can see through the veils, smokescreen and mirrors here. I still am for a live, non rehearsed question and answer session with direct questions and follow up questions to clarify any dancing around they try to pass off as a response...

Pam said...

Ok, I caught this episode on Sunday. I never understood where is this bathroom Ben was cleaning? Was it the Duggar boys? It looked like an abandoned gas station bathroom to me.

Anonymous said...

RE: The Unicorn comments. According to the dictionary, a unicorn is a mythical creature, resembling a horse having a single horn in the center of it's forehead: often symbolic of chastity & purity. Mentioned in the Bible.

Jeannine Guidry said...

I wonder if the crew is tired of Michelle's voice after all these years. It's progressively gotten higher pitched. And the way she talks when she does her interviews (talking heads) oh my God!

As for John David... I just can't. I wish these kids would take a sort of rumspringa from the family. I would totally watch that.

Anonymous said...

Would definitely watch a "Breaking Duggar" show. Someone needs to do an intervention in the middle of the night and get those older kids off the compound!

Anonymous said...

I was also going to mention if anyone else finds Michelle's voice so grating!

sandi said...

Unless the pics are not updated,looking from google earth at the Duggar compound,the only extra building I see is the one next to the gated Duggar driveway,and from what I understand,that is the HQ John David's towing service.
I don't see any other buildings.You can see the gazebo, etc., in the Duggar backyard,but I'm guessing the towing hq building is where Ben may be staying,and thus the one he cleaned up.

Anonymous said...

This season Michelle has turned into an animated character of herself. I believe that someone in the know has been reading the posts on the internet and is relaying to them how they are being perceived,, not just the compliments to them. She is "trying to" interact with her kids,feign interest in them but it is so unnatural for her as she is NOT a good actress. Her bug eyes when squeaking out a comment and animated voice, she should be a voice over for a Disney movie. That woman is having difficulties with "this season of life". So annoying.

BLB said...

I find both Michelle's and Jill's "engagement voice" almost unbearable.

BLB said...

Too bad the Seewalds and Dillards dont put Jessa and Jill into challenges to see if they measure up to be part of their families. So arrogant of JB. I do think Michelle has been brainwashed way more than JB by their cult leader too.

GIA said...

To those who say they don't like Ben, I'm wondering why? He's just a kid, hardly a man and is being pushed to be under the thumb of JimBob. He seems like a nice guy but on the shy side and likely, he's been told by his own family to 'be respectful' - and of course for anyone OUTSIDE of the Duggar family, marrying-in is an "honor" due to their quasi-TLC-celeb status. I'm just so turned off to the fact that all of these women do one thing and that's get pregnant the moment they marry. Do none of them think OUTSIDE the box from what Mommy and Daddy did? Also, is it me but do all the males in the family have strange looking heads? Rather large.

Anonymous said...

Possibly Jim Bob's reason for having Ben come to live with them, Ben was living four hours away, visiting on weekends...somebody could have pulled this young man aside and asked him, "What are you thinking, what are you doing?" Possibly talked some common to sense to Ben. I thought Ben was going to college, guess that is just one more contradiction in the show.

Allison said...

It's interesting you guys think Michelle's voice has gotten worse, I actually think it's gotten better now that her kids are getting progressively older and that there isn't any babies or toddlers in the family. Granted I don't love her voice but she sounds a bit better now. Before it sounded like she was talking to the crew as if they were 2-year-olds, and now she seems a little more normal in her tone and inflections.

Jill, however, has definitely gotten progressively worse. Before she sounded like a teenager, now she sounds like a teenager who thinks everyone else is an idiot.

hello said...

Jill does have the bug eyed look and high pitched voice down. She also uses the work like a lot, like totally. Anna does the same thing along with having the bug eyed look and high pitched voice.

Anonymous said...

I think the whole family is missing something. What kids lets their parents select their husbands.