Tuesday, October 28, 2014, 9:00 PM, Jill's Wedding

The big day is finally here... Jill & Derick are getting married! With hundreds of volunteers to help with everything from decorating to finishing the cake, they're aiming for this super-sized wedding to go off without a hitch.

121 minutes

Really a double sized episode after dragging this out for an entire season?

4.497 M viewers and a 1.l5 rating.  Second only to Sons of Anarchy in the rating and the most cable viewers of the day.  They probably got a bonus for the episode.

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CatMom said...

I am happy that Jill is getting a very small chance to break away, but it wasn't very long, was it? She went right from taking care of many siblings to getting married to starting a family IMMEDIATELY. I wish she and Derick had a chance to get to know one another first. A first relationship, engagement, a wedding and moving from your parent's home is enough. Throwing a baby into the mix before you really know your spouse seems like overload. I'm not a fan of the huge registries, and it will be interesting to see if the Duggars address them, but I doubt it. I can certainly see having modest registries, of course. I'm pretty worried for Jessa and Ben. I think this is about lust, and I hope they have some other foundation.

Anonymous said...

I don't believe that Jill, or any of the Duggar girls will be totally free from their Jurisdictions at the compound once they are married, even though they won't be there 24/7 I have the feeling that certain duties may still be expected of them...I just don't see Jimbob and Michelle letting them off the hook. Jill may still feel a sense of obligation to her buddy group as well. Just my opinion..

got2bdrc said...

I agree with CatMom that lust seems to be the main reason why both Jill's and Jessa's courtships were so short--so that they could be "joyfully available" to their men without worrying about being shunned by the Duggars or by others in the ultra-conservative, fundie circles in which they move. Further, I think it's unfair of Jim Bob and Michelle to put pressure on the new couples to start their families immediately.

If I were a Duggar daughter, I'd tell them to butt out in no uncertain terms. On the other hand, if I were a Duggar daughter it's likely that I would never have developed any kind of independent spirit or ability to think for myself. And that would be sad for me--the same way it's sad for Jana, Jill, Jessa, Jinger, and all the other Duggar progeny.

Anonymous said...

My parents had their first baby 9 months and 3 days after they were married. I guess it happens more often then we think. Thankfully I waited a couple of years. I guess JillDill and Derick will survive.

capslock said...

I'm not surprised at all. All Michelle talks about is Babies, Babies, Babies because that is all that matters in life. Jill has been indoctrinated to believe this as well, and that's a pity.

The sad thing is babies GROW UP and then they are discarded. They don't have any value in Michelle's warped world.

If you have an IQ higher than 12, then Michelle can't handle it. She was BEYOND out of place when trying to relate to the older kids (playing Chess, etc.)

Boob has stunted her growth in every way. Her self worth is shot because she most likely will not have any more beloved babies - babies are on her emotional level - people are not.

I had hope that Derick would be different but now he is forever sentenced to the Jim Bob Jail. I don't think Jill knows any differently or even cares to.

Anonymous said...

i had my baby almost none months after i got married they will be ok. but Jill needs to be humble and Derrick needs to stand up for himself. and Jim bod and Michelle need to leave them alone and let them make their own decsions. but their relgion and beilfs will not let them because it is all about control.

Anonymous said...

Derick is big on education, as is his family. I hope they encourage Jill to get a real education and achieve her degree in midwifery. As long as he pays for her education, it's none of her parent's business! Jill just needs the encouragement to do something with her life outside of raising kids. I also hope his mom is a good influence on Jill and encourages her to live a real life, not the kind that her parents have pushed on her entire life.

Anonymous said...

Jill proclaimed that she was "in love" with Derick after a few Skype conversations, before she had ever met him in person. Jill is like a 12 or 13 year old school girl with a crush, stating that she is "soooo in love" with someone she has never spent a moment alone with and has no real reason to love him- she knew nothing about him at the time. These idiots need to look up "love" because they seem to throw it around way too easily. These parents teach their kids the wrong meaning for the word and they seem to be confusing attraction or lust with real love. Love is when you share a lot with a person- not just likes and dislikes, but when you have been through both good and bad times together, when you have seen all sides of them, and them of you. Jill is the perfect example of a hormonal, immature girl who wants to plan a wedding, buy home decor, finally have sex and play with babies at home. She does't know love, marriage, financial problems (she's never and will never earn a penny in her life) and all that comes along with having children. I am just shocked, that Derick, such a mainstream young man- who seems as though he came from a normal household, with a normal family, got a normal education and travelled the world would fall for this disaster and play into it. My guess is that he is just lusting after Jill, convinced he is in love and obviously got married so quickly because he wants to kiss and sleep with the girl! Derick has kissed a girl or two in his life, let's be real here!! Is it awful of me to say that I would love for Derick to wake up and realize he's fallen into a trap. He'll never travel again, and between Jill and her father he'll be suffocated to death. I'd wish divorce upon noone, but this family needs a rude awakening!!

Anonymous said...

This family should be on the show hoarders, because that's what they do - hoard people instead of cats and junk.

Anonymous said...

i was reading on that web sight about that church the duggars attend and it is all about control and never let your child out of your sight. Anna sister and her husband work for that guy. the headqueater is right near my home. hope Jana leaves. I really think Josiah has left.

Csnee317 said...

Unless Jill, Derrick and the baby move out of Arkansas (extremely unlikely for many reasons, the least of which is the job he has with Wal-Mart as an accountant) she's going to be tied directly to the family. Hello! She had her "buddy group" with her when they got the ultrasound to find out the baby's gender. Not her sister (MOH and supposed Doula trainee), none of the older girls - her BUDDY GROUP! She's never going to be off the hook. Heck, look at Josh and Anna, they moved to the DC area and they seem to see the family (at least some members of the family) almost on a monthly basis. I agree that it is so ridiculous how they have dragged out the wedding stuff. The Roloffs show did the wedding thing 100 times better.

Rudy Tecat said...

Seriously, does anyone think JillyDilly will be working outside the home ever again? If a woman can't cut her hair or wear pants in this cult, is she going to be allowed to work when she has a kid at home? Especially if her husband can support her? In no time at all, JillyDilly will be just like Anna, stuck at home with a bunch of toddlers trying to cook healthy for her overweight husband.

Anonymous said...

It is hard to enjoy watching a wedding with two people that are so mismatched and ignorant of each other.

Why doesn't Jim Boob just auction off his daughters to the highest bidder...

taurus0385 said...

I'm kind of excited to see this wedding but it makes me sad that Derek and jill didn't get to enjoy being married before they got pregnant.

Anonymous said...

From 14 kids and little house on the prairie dresses to today the Duggars have changed tremendously. Becoming "reality TV stars" has done this family no favors. I've never seen a group of people quite like them - if you're not a Duggar or living like a Duggar, you're just wrong in their eyes. What a pompous group they are.

Anonymous said...

I agree that Jilly Muffin will be just like Anna soon. A bunch of kids under the age of 5 and a husband that realizes his marriage was a mistake and misery all around.

Anonymous said...

Josh thinks his marriage was a mistake? Why is that speculation?
I agree that Jim Bob should just line up the 2 older girls and hold an auction to the highest bidder..so funny, and so sadly close to the truth...
He should do the same with his 2 older single sons...but start the bidding a little lower IMO. He needs to unload them too.
What would Michelle do losing her housemaids and house/yard caretakers with no one older than Josiah around? Maybe learn to cook, clean, etc...she won't need weight watchers as she will get real exercise with the vacuum cleaner.

Wednesday said...

Josh thinks his marriage is a mistake? Did I miss something?

Anonymous said...

I have to say, I'm so much less worried about Jill and Derick than I am for Jessa and Ben. Jill seems actually happy in this lifestyle, and I think in her own way she takes these fundy values and makes them her own. It's is certainly not Gothard approve to go barefoot to your wedding, or be quite hip and into pintrest.

Jessa seems like in any other context, she would be one of the very pretty, popular, almost mean girls in school. She struggles to keep her attitude in line with their teaching, and I think Ben is going to wake up one day and feel much more trapped then Derick probably ever will, and may even see that Jessa is actually quite controlling and mean. I don't know why, but the hormonal, lust-crazed, getting-married-only-for-sex feels so much more a problem with Jessa and Ben.

With this said, I am so much more intrigued by Jessa. I think if you asked her her views on a subject like homosexuality, she would be very vocal that it's a sin, digesting, and wrong. I feel like Jill would say something about everyone struggling, and appreciate a lot more that it shouldn't be something to judge so harshly. Not to say she thinks it's ok at all, but to say she would handle it much more gently. They seem to have very different personalities, and Jessa's seems much more brass and possibly offensive which I think will cause more marital problems to these types of people than Jill's will.

Rambling a bit here, but I am interested in Jessa's sharpness. I just don't think a religion which believes a woman should always be sweet can handle her.

Anonymous said...

Is it just me or is becoming obvious that they have paid help working behind the scenes? There is no way the grandmother was actually able to look after 12 kids when they all went on their trips for dress shopping / male bonding. I know the Queries come by and help some time, but I just have this feeling that it now may be Debbie Queries' full time job to help out.

Anonymous said...

Just speculating---Josh doesn't look that happy in pictures with Anna at home. I think he enjoys strutting around with the bus and political candidates that do not support equality for all.

Anonymous said...

I'm not sure why Derrick, (not sure of his last name, has it ever been mentioned on the show :) ), gets a pass of maybe being a normal guy. I don't believe he is. He is the one that contacted JimBoob to be his prayer partner, he was obviously attracted to their lifestyle. I think he wanted a docile little wifey, a little fame and fortune and wanted to be the boss man of the house. He is awkward and a little geeky and there was no way he was going to achieve this without latching on to the Duggars. A normal girl would go from that from him.

Anonymous said...

I'm also curious about Josh thinking his marriage is a mistake, because he and Anna seem very much in love. I really like watching them instead of Michelle and JimBob. I saw the scene on YouTube where Michelle and JimBob were on the double date with Jessa and Ben and JB was all horny. Gross, and in front of your children?!

Also, it's definitely not uncommon for a woman to get pregnant on the honeymoon. Think about what you're doing a lot of the time when you're newlyweds. ;) I have a friend who got pregnant right after her wedding. Nine months later, a baby boy was born!

Anonymous said...

I think people believe Derick will help guide Jill to a more "fundie-lite" life because he didn't grow up like that himself, and ultimately he is now "head" of their household. For example, he just took Jill to see "Cinderella" on Broadway while they were in New York. Considering that Jill didn't even know the words to "Twinkle Twinkle Little Star", that's HUGE.

capslock said...

I don't believe getting pregnant on your honeymoon is the problem here. My sister in law was pregnant within a month of marriage as well.

My issue is that Jill and Derick never had a real relationship to begin with before getting pregnant. Their relationship reminds me more of chaperoned field days for elementary age students. I'm sure most of us had normal should-I-dare-say Courtships before marrying and/or having a baby.

Since it's best in DuggarLand to put your head in the sand and not face reality, Jill and Derick should be content following Boob and Me-chelle's legacy.

Anonymous said...

Re; anonymous 10/23 24:45pm
There is no way that Jill will ever continue her education. It wasn't a real education in the first place. Only once did we see her with what I thought was a textbook, & she was saying how you really need to study. Other than that, it was always just with her midwife group. Money isn't the object here, control is. It doesn't matter if Derick is educated & his mom apparently is also college educated. I went back to school when my children were in school, it wasn't easy competing with the younger crowd, but I also enjoyed it & I now have a good profession. I had a very supportive family when it came to education & that won't happen with Jill.

Anonymous said...

Did anyone else burst out laughing when Michelle was talking about liking lots of bling and sparkle? I've never seen a more dowdy woman in my life! Bling? Really?

Anonymous said...

A nerdy twit who couldn't get a girl decides to worm his way into the Duggar family as a prayer partner so he can be assigned to a giggly 14 year old immature daughter who has been taught to obey men.

Now she is knocked up and happy????
How low can you go TLC?

Anonymous said...

It may well be that she likes a lot of bling and sparkle but isn't allowed to have it. There's that Bible verse about not adorning yourself with gold and jewels or whatever. Some people interpret that to mean not wearing anything fancy at all. Or maybe Jim Bob just doesn't like it.

Leigh Ann said...

I think I just sent my comment (about JB not liking bling) through with no name. Sorry.

Jeannine Denton said...

Did anyone else notice (this is a few episodes ago) the amount of Amazon and Walmart boxes that were delivered with Jill's wedding dress? It annoys me to no end the amount of crap they registered for and most likely got from people who are just fans. I would not buy a gift for a celebrity if I didn't know them personally. It's just weird.

Linda said...

I agree. Ben is very immature and she is snooty. I don't think she is in love like Jill is. He's always never sure of himself and what he says. It's like he says things, only to get approvals. I think there us going to be problems in that marriage. Jill is nicer and her husband is a charm!

Anonymous said...

I really don't think that Jill IS IN LOVE with Derick at all. She displays the classic adolescent girl behavior when she meets her first crush and is in love with the idea of being in love. They throw that word around like many other words, but that one is a powerful word with a powerful meaning, of which they don't understand yet. She stated that she was "in love with someone she had never met". You can't be that.
She had no idea of his physical presence, body scent, physical mannerisms, habits, etc..all of those things come in to play when considering marriage. These people are afraid of emotions, real relationships and those break ups that are inevitable in most cases, which help you grow and decide what it is that YOU really want in a person. Jim Bob's litany of questions that are prepared for the poor guys to respond to is NOT the absolute indication of relationship success; it merely is a start. These couples in most cases marry within months of an initial meeting with absolutely NO experience in any area of life other than housework and diaper changing of siblings..they are all a disaster waiting to happen.
Anyone can SAY that they are patient, slow to anger, but has Jill and the like ever experienced a real disagreement with the other to witness how those negative emotions are really played out and lived through? NO. So, they take a huge risk that the other person, including Jill, are presenting themselves as they really are. Remember what Shakespeare said: The world is a stage and we are actually 3 people: how we perceive ourselves, how others perceive us, and how we really are. None of these courting couples has any idea who the other is yet, in their own eyes, and it's those eyes that count.

pumpkin said...

One thing I don't get here is the idea that courtship allows you to "not give away pieces of your heart". Imagine if Jill had gone all the way to Nepal and met Derick and then he said "You know what, I'm not as attracted to you as I thought I was and I don't think we're a good match." She would have been absolutely devastated and heartbroken - and they weren't even in a formal courtship until the end of her visit.

Anonymous said...

Regardless of how DerickDillard may feel he's bound by thier marriage certificate that he can't get out, at least not with out some real effort. Makes you think...maybe these courting relationships aren't as good as they seem. Or maybe Jim Bob knows his daughters aren't ready for marriage but he's got control with this covenant certificate. Now the grooms are stuck no matter how they may feel about thier brides later on.

Anonymous said...

I hope this wedding is worth all of the hype??????

Anonymous said...

sorry to say but this wedding is really sad? who has jarred pickeles cup cakes and ice crean at a wedding? that is a birthday party. Sorry but Josh and Anna did not have 1,000 people they had a nice church dinner nothing fancy can't they least give Jill that much. Tell your friends to leave the kids at home. I really do not think those are her friends she has none. Derrick Friend probably thought this is a circus. how really sad for this girl

Jeannine Denton said...

It's kind of a burn to Jessa for them to air Jill's wedding four days before she gets married herself.

Anonymous said...

He talked a lot more freely & seemed more sure of himself when he first came on the show. Now I agree, he's looking for approvals. He's like a robot now.

Anonymous said...

Agreed. I can't help but think that if she and derrickdillard ever get in a fight that she'll run home to Daddy.

Buster's mom said...

Just a thought- Ben, jessa's "boyfriend" looks like Mr. Tumnus from the lion, witch and the wardrobe

hello said...

I don't believe any of the girls will be in love with their spouses that are picked by Jimboob. The firls have been trained since birth that their sole purpose in life is to get married and have as many babies as possible. They are strongly encouraged to marry the first person they enter into a courtship with. The forst words out of Jimboob and Michelle's mouths when Jill and Jessa started courting was-soon there will be an engagement, a wedding and babies. I think ot all goes back to Michelle dating a few boys before Jimboob came along and "saved" her from a life of sin. He still can't get over it thirty years later and thinks she brought baggage into their marriage. They also kissed before they were married and I believe that is the reason why the girls are never alowed to be alone with a boy. It has to be scary for the girls to be alone with their new husband after constantly being monitored during phone calls and texts, and being chaperoned wherever they go. They don't have the opportunity to really get to know each other. I would like to know what the cutoff age is for having a chaperone along on a date. I can just picture Jana being in her thirties or forties and her siblings and her sibling's kids drawing straws to be on chaperone duty.

Anonymous said...

I was watching the episode where Jessa called Ben her boyfriend, I don't remember any of them using that word, didn't they call Anna, Joshs future life partner or something like that?

tulip said...

"It's kind of a burn to Jessa for them to air Jill's wedding four days before she gets married herself"

One word: Sweeps. I'm sure Jessa knows her time is right around the corner come the end of Jan. when a second round of sweeps rolls through. There will prob. be a major social media storm between now & then just like w/ Jill's "secret honeymoon pic", etc. In addition to all the dumb build up w/ friends posting on their own sites 'no pics for 3 weeks' nonsense they did. Ugh, who cares?

I'm sure Jessa & Ben are getting their own stockpile deliveries of wedding gifts & People mag. contracts. TLC has it made. Right after late Jan. sweeps, there will be the April-May round just in time to have filmed & edited Jill's birth. Meanwhile, all the Duggars are swimming in bags of money while they ask for volunteers to help them clean their house and plan wedding & baby showers.

Wampascat said...

"We don't know if Miss Cathy will make it to the wedding. Or if she'll make it at all." Real sensitive, Jill. What a bitch.

Anonymous said...

Anybody think it's weird that this is being aired the same week as the benessa wedding?

Leecy said...

Observations so far:

1) Jill saying she doesnt know if Ms Kathy will make it to wedding and then adds "dont know if she will make it at all" ......OMG...did she just say that?....she is tactless and hard.

2) Jimboob constant crying. Are you kidding me. I have NEVER seen any father-of-the-bride carry on so much.

3) During rehearsal. JimBoob says "I can kiss the bride".....this guy is beyond a perv.

Anonymous said...

OMG...Jim Bob asking Jill/Derick if they have a chaperone because they want to be alone to call Derick's mom ON THE DAY OF WEDDING??? WHAT???

Anonymous said...

Seriously, they need a chaperon in the church just a few hours before they get married, to do their devotions and call his Mother? They are the most ridiculous people ever. What are they going to do, thrown down and sweet fellowship their brains out in the cloak room. They can take the most innocent of things and make them dirty.

Anonymous said...

Anyone else shudder with disgust when JB said "you two will be joined at the mouth"
If my father ever said that to me I would be mortified

hello said...

Jill and DerickDillard really needed to have a chaperone in church? Jboob and Michelle really don't trust them. And Jboob, we get that they are saving their first kiss for when you give them permission, although I don"t believe it will be DerickDillard"s first kiss ever.

Anonymous said...

Oh my word. Did Derick really need Jill to shave him? They couldn't spend the day before the weddings apart even though they are about to be married and spending every second of the rest of their lives together? I mean, I love my husband to death and we were long distance before marriage, but I could manage to let him shave his own face and wait until the walk down the aisle to see him. This is absurd and beyond clingy. Just makes me realize how ill-prepared for marriage, and life in general these young people are.

Leecy said...

Michelles dress looks like the tin man meets Kmart bargain sale

JillL said...

I am in CA and only half way through and it already is bugging me.

JB waving to the crowd as he walks Jill down the isle? WTF

Chaperone in a church with a million people there?

Why is JB getting ready in the "bridal suite"? Can't she be out of his sight to get dressed?

Jackson needs a time out.

What is the "first look" thing?

Wampascat said...

Stringy hair. Dirty feet. Cheap food. Tacky. Tacky. Tacky.

And...they can alter traditions such as not seeing each other before the wedding, but keep some of their own weird, made up ones.

JillL said...

drinking game alert. Evey time Jim Bob cries and says "I can't believe my little Jilly Muffin is growing up" take a drink - it's the only way we are going to survive!

Don't drink and drive!

Anonymous said...

OMG - Josh attacking Anna as she is walked down the isle, Married 6 years and still awkward!

Anonymous said...

She is turning into Kate Gosselin! I remember an episode where she says I can't go anywhere without my heels, the first 4 years she never wore them and u certainly have never seen bling and sparkle on Michelle

Anonymous said...

I was surprised that DerikDillard was allowed to see Jill in her wedding dress before she came down the aisle. It would have been funny if they spontaneously kissed at that point when they met before the wedding and said, yuck, that didn't feel right and called it off right Then.

Derrick should have shaved before the wedding. That scraggly beard of his looks awful.

Why were they all running out of the church after the wedding. At first I thought it was just Jill and Derick needing to finalize the deal but most of the wedding party raced out like the church was on fire.

Did Jill really just say practice makes progress and progress makes babies before the reception has even started. Maybe they think that first kiss makes babies which is why no kissing before marriage.

Wampascat said...

This proves why kissing needs practice before attempting it publicly. Awkward!
Why did Josh feel the need to grab and kiss Anna? Gross.
Galloping down the aisle. I have no words.

Anonymous said...

Ok then I did hear it correctly....yikes

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Anonymous said...

Re: Anonymous 5:54 PM:
Anyone else shudder with disgust when JB said "you two will be joined at the mouth" If my father ever said that to me I would be mortified

Seriously! Jill did seem mortified. She gave JB a little push and said, "Papa!" with, I believe, an embarrassed little laugh. JB needs to shut it.

I loved how Jill and Derick ran out of the church, and everyone else too! It was a fun way to end it after the endless talking heads about not kissing, just holding hands, the would-be side hug at the airport, Michelle and JB reminiscing about their own wedding... that got old. So seeing them RUN out of the church with exuberance, that was fun. They surely planned it, but it at least looked spontaneous and lighthearted.

Anna: "Practice makes progress and progress makes babies!" These women focus on the babies so much because very little else lies ahead for them. Babies are their raison d'etre. Their job. Their future. Their everyday. Their everything.

Oh, and Michelle's dress was hideous.

Anonymous said...

So many things I can say. First off Jill's comment about if Miss Cathy even makes it!! Then I noticed the Groomsmen no jackets and some had rolled up sleeves

What's the deal about being together before the wedding the day of the wedding!!. No special moment whe the bride and groom see each other for the 1st time coming down the aisle.

Speculating that from the 1 st kids babies are soon to be produced. RUNNINGbout of the church . Ben going nuts thaT another man was walking down a aisle with Jessa and then just cutting in and walking with her.
Going gaga over root beer floats

Anonymous said...

I can't believe that she was barefoot for real. What if you step on something? Also it was creepy when JB said that thing about their lips being glued together. Weird to say that to their face.

Anonymous said...

That made me wretch, but I shrieked in disgust when Anna said " practice makes progress & progress makes babies!" Aaaah!

stupididiotshutup said...

Mr. Byrum was not impressed.

Anonymous said...

I also noticed that the flower girls' dresses were all store bought, they all had tags. Why didn't they ask Jana to sew them, she did everything else. I was at least sort of relieved that the two of them showed some seemingly genuine affection to each other, like when she was helping shave him, I actually thought that was cute.

Anonymous said...

I liked how JimBoob was leading Ben around by the tie when they were getting dressed. Seriously??? Maybe Boob was trying to be funny but I found it degrading

Anonymous said...

In three states (Arizona, Arkansas, and Louisiana) of the United States, a covenant marriage is a legally distinct kind of marriage, in which the marrying couple agree to obtain pre-marital counseling and accept more limited grounds for later seeking divorce. Generally, covenant marriage statutes prohibit no-fault divorce.

Anonymous said...

This wedding of the century just aired and I am disappointed. It wasn't well done at all. What a cheap wedding she had; no taste elegance or class...did Jill actually walk around outside the church parking lot and grass areas barefoot? Yes she did. How disgusting, she must have had filthy feet not to mention stepping on something sharp! No class,of JIm Bob to make a joke when arriving at the altar, saying HE gives Jill away, laughing then "correcting" himself. If I were Jill, etc., I wouldn't have like it at all. Jill doesn't know her own mind at all yet, if ever, as she said to her father before the ceremony, that it was he who picked Derick for her, so if Jim Bob thought he was good, Jill took his word on it..what bride says that?
Anyone notice the Seewalds were seated behind Michelle and Jim Bob? What was that about? I think HER siblings, niece, nephews and family should have been behind her; not the Seewalds, or anyone else. Hardly saw Deanna, Terry or Amy. I think she looked elegant.
What childish behavior of Ben to "steal" Jessa from her groomsman escort...that is a disrespectful thing to do to the guy; as it was his place to accompany Jessa in and OUT of the church..they all ran out like poorly behaved children, Jill and Derick included..Josh had to step in and copy Ben to draw attention to himself and the fact that he already has a "woman". Josie couldn't handle the job as she was figgety, and had to sit with Michelle..she needs some real attention. Sorry to see NONE of Derick's relatives there or mentioned. I'm sure he had uncles, aunts, etc. present.
Jill finished Derick's sentences again and interrupted him as usual.
So tired of Anna driving the baby train...how many times does she have to mention babies and SOON? We get it, Anna, that's all you're about and you are NOT growing at all like some speculate, IMO.
Mama Michelle's shiny aluminum Christmas tree dress...well, we've covered her choice in fashion disaster...this was not Kelly Bates' dress?

Anonymous said...

I'm sorry but Michelle's mother of bride dress made her look so frumpy. The material and style was not for a spring wedding, but I think her shoes were white. And where was Cousin Amy? I didn't see her at all.

Wampascat said...

What, no stinky sardines in Jilly-Muffins getaway car? They must save those dirty tricks for Non-Duggar weddings.

Anonymous said...

Michele's dress reminded me of the silver metal Christmas trees they had briefly in the late 60's.

...and hair for the 80's. I thought of White Snake when I saw her.

Did she wear her Crocs?

Poor dear.

Anonymous said...

It was hideous. Looked like a suit of armor to me. Made her look more dumpy than usual.

Anonymous said...

I thought it was sad that Jill had the worst looking hair (aside from Michelle) on her wedding day. Jana and Joy's looked the best.

Anonymous said...

I thought the same thing. Quite emotionless throughout the entire thing. I don't think he's too keen on the Duggar circus.

Anonymous said...

I thought it was going to be worse actually. At least he didn't say "joined at the crotch."

Anonymous said...

Well, considering that the girls are forgoing education, they won't have to worry about college $ and send that money straight to the weddings. But besides that, they're getting major bank from TLC, People mag covers, and free stuff from vendors and donations. I would think with all that money coming through, they would be more considerate to their guests and not be harping about costs.

anonymous said...


Am I the only person to think the reason Derick contacted Jim Bob and asked him to be his prayer partner was so that he could become a member of the 'clan' and cash in on the money and publicity? I mean, really- he's college educated. What does he have in common with un-educated, immature girl who's never done anything in her life?

no name said...

I agree. It's there wedding day what are they going to do? Run off and get married? Kiss?

no name said...

JB and Michelle need to stop saying their kids set their own courtship standards when we all know they don't.

Dar said...

Well JimBob must have made a lot of money this week. There was a repeat of the whole season on leading up to the wedding. Way to Go - Producer of this show. How to completely bore an audience to death, when they could have been a little interested. I am sure most people could have done without all the repetitive scenes, we have seen the courtship, the proposal the buying of the ring ad nauseum. I guess all the actors had to have some screen time in order to get a cheque. I, for one, could have done without all the trite comments coming from Michelle, JimBob, and the grown-up siblings. They also need to increase their adjectives and adverbs. "Amazing" is the Niagara Falls. the space walk, the pyramids, etc. For me, the dress was spoiled by the bare feet. All that glitter and then nothing. With no shoes, she should have chosen a simple dress. It is annoying that everything has to be brought back to Michelle and JimBob's wedding. Why can't they allow their offspring any individual attention? Why did all these people volunteer? I would hazard a guess, that Jill does not even know them. JimBob saved a ton of money on this wedding. All that talk about paying for all the girls' weddings. As if. These girls should have enough money to pay for their own, if daddy who cries, gives them what is their due. Probably crying because now Derek might want his and Jill's money.All in all, big buildup to a big let down.

To finish, I really feel for Jessa. That young boy needs to mature about eight years before he gets married. I also can't understand why his parents don't call JB out about his behaviour towards Ben. Even tonight, he was leading him around by the tie. Big bully JimBob. Big show-off!

sorry for going on.


Poor little Jordyn. I don't think Michelle even sees that child.Did anybody see Josiah?(Surely, he could get some kind of "leave" to attend his sister's wedding. He was not on screen once thonight

Anonymous said...

"Amazingly" Michelle got her dress on the clearance rack? I don't think anyone was surprised with that little tidbit. That shiny mess screamed clearance rank.

Anonymous said...

Was Josiah at the wedding?

Anonymous said...

Wouldn't it have been cool if some of the kids were good enough to have been the musicians? I saw violins and harps, and that one playing the piano was very good. I know they used to advertise that they all had violin lessons and some of the girls played harp, so what happened? It just all fizzled out? It seems sad that they missed opportunities like that, they did have the instruments. Even back in the Jane Austin times the girls were stuck at home until married but they were taught by governesses and they pushed music and sewing on them to be "accomplished."

Katie's Mom said...

I'm so sick of Jim Bob crying & repeating over & over aging, that's he's giving his daughter away. Believe me, if you've ever stood beside a father as he buried his daughter you'd also feel sick about how Jim Bob is acting!

Anonymous said...

Was the wedding planner the woman that was Jill's mentor for her midwife course?

Anonymous said...

Please Jim Bob how much can you miss Jill, she's going to be at the Stoney Brook house? You own that house don't you? And that remark about, if they had a good have a good chaperone in the church on the day of the wedding was just ridiculous. Did anyone see Josiah at all??

Anonymous said...

Wow, their car not only didn't get an ultimate trashed-out treatment, but also a wad of cash. Must be nice to be the favorite :P

Anonymous said...

The musicians, the older girls, were in the wedding. Erin Bates played the piano. A couple are pretty good with the harp.

Anonymous said...

Did anyone see Josiah at the wedding?? I notice he wasn't interviewed as the other kids were & didn't see him anywhere at all.

Anonymous said...

I got the impression poor Ben didn't know how to tie the tie, so JB said something like, "we have to take it off". He's too young to know that?!?

Anonymous said...

Josh and Ben: Look up the word "dignity" in a dictionary (you do know what a dictionary is right?). Your boorish behaviour was embarrassing to witness and I truly hope you are mature enough to cringe when you see that film footage. Yeah, you probably need to look up "boorish" too. I didn't think it was possible for those 2 buffoons to sink any lower but they did it!

tulip said...

Omg, what a circus. And what a disappointment. Back when I saw the first pic released of Jill & Derick I thought, finally, something sweet & classic? Oh wow, too bad I jumped the gun. This wedding was utterly laughable. And with all JB's sex innuendos, rather creepy & gross. From the pieced together & ill-fitting wardrobe to the angry rendition of 'here comes the bride' plus the goofy reception, the whole thing was actually hard to watch.

Josh acts so arrogant & Anna like a complete air head, not to mention gross with her 'practice makes progress' for making babies. Eew, just yuck. What if there is any underlying fertility issue? How insensitive that's first on their minds, w/ their corny baby mobile gift & now this dumb comment. Sorry, I see no sign of any genuine intelligence w/ Anna, just a good little Gothard wife parroting stuff she picks up from campaign rallies & bus tours.

Michelle's dress was more atrocious than we've seen and her behavior at the nail party was like she was high on valium. Seriously, what mother acts like that, picking out a different design for each nail laughing all giddy & goofy?

Can't believe JB's behavior. He once said when the show first started something about not wanting filming a show to portray their family as a circus or weirdos or whatever. Umm, they're doing a fine job taking care of that on their own, no editing required.

sandi said...

Re: Am I the only person to think the reason Derick contacted Jim Bob and asked him to be his prayer partner was so that he could become a member of the 'clan' and cash in on the money and publicity? I mean, really- he's college educated. What does he have in common with un-educated, immature girl who's never done anything in her life?
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Well,I have to wonder if either Ben or Derick would have wanted this lifestyle without a bit of fame and a tlc paycheck to boot.
Ben would have no way of supporting Jessa and several children,and Derick would be saddled with his walmart career as an accountant only to maintain a decent lifestyle for Jill,and what will likely be at least 20 kids. (my guess).I'm not sure it would have been all that appealing to them otherwiae.JMO

Lesleigh said...

FORTUNATELY, we were spared seeing the rumored display of Michelle's wedding dress in this episode!

The refreshments WERE horrible! As a Southerner, I know that many wedding receptions have cake, punch, coffee, nuts and mints. Maybe small finger sandwiches. A lot of them do not have a full sit-down dinner as brides in the Midwest do. Her "menu" was beyond horrendous and embarrassing!

moonbeam137 said...

Who thought it was a good idea to scoop ice cream into cups and then refreeze it? Yuck.

Jill looked really pretty in her dress. The dress was "matronly" (I'm hoping that's not too mean), but she was happy and that's all that matters.

Erin Bates was playing the Wedding March quite angrily it seemed. I mean, I know it's a big piece of music and is supposed to be grand and big, but it sounded almost too "grand".

The kiss made me smile. I did feel a little bit of embarrassment for them though. To have something that is usually an intimate moment, shared in front of so many people, and have it be awkward - yikes. I was hoping they would've addressed if it was Derrick's first kiss or not. I'm sure they are just sweeping that under the carpet. It's probably too scandalous.

I did NOT love the immature running back down the aisle after the ceremony. What is that? And why did everyone do it? They looked really silly.

The preview for Jessa's engagement...ugh. I wish she looked happy/excited/eager for any of it. Isn't her wedding soon? Hope that works out!


Anonymous said...

News on TV said the wedding cost $200,000. Did not state whose cost but betcha it was all on TLC.

Jill interviewed & said that TLC is already filming their babie episodes.

Derick didn't want to be employed by Daddy Duggar but I believe they are both heeding his advice to make $$$ off TLC, mags, instagrams, etc. while the iron is hot to set themselves up (maybe buy the house outright).

The bride & groom racing down the aisle of the church was ridiculous IMO & so was the very much planned exit behavior of the whole wedding party.

Derick dipping Jill at the alter for their first kiss was ludicrous. Both of them forgot to focus on each other during this special moment instead of performing for TV land & "audience" onlookers.

Anonymous said...

thoughts on wedding. the resheral dinner was way better then the wedding. should have had a nice sit down wedding. who were all those people that helped put a wedding togher. they had more help then a hollywood couple. Josh and Anna wedding was much more humble. And were was Josaih Duggar again he was missing one of the most important days of his sister life. And running down the aisle was really dumb. where were they running to to make out somewhere? and did anyone else notice that Derrick brothers wife or girl friend look like she was going to have a baby. And the duggars keep talking about a baby right after the wedding. I also think Derrick wanted a child right away just in case his mother got really sick she would have a grand child.

Anonymous said...

I was so disgusted when Jill shaved Derick. These women shave their men, cut and fix their hair, dress them, pack their suitcases for them.....my oh my how they have been trained as servants to men.....not good.

Csnee317 said...

Josiah was definitely there. I was paying close attention watching to see if he was. He wasn't ever shown talking to the camera or mentioned by name, but I saw him clearly at the rehearsal dinner and I think he walked Grandma Duggar down the aisle to her seat. I still feel bad for Amy that they couldn't have included her in the bridal party at all. She was on screen for about half a second, giving Jill a hug, and she was wearing the exact same color as the bridesmaids. The rare few times Derrick's Stepdad was on screen he looked annoyed/angry. I did enjoy the brother's speech at the rehearsal dinner. But I just have to ask - it took them three months to plan THAT? There was no music, no real food, etc. It was so clear they could have given a rats arse about the reception. They were dying to get out of there to finally be alone. And the no shoes thing grossed me out.

Slightly Freaked Out ... said...

If Jim Bob said "I'm giving away Jill" one more time, I was going to lose it! It sounds like he was taking a bag of old clothes to be dropped off at the Goodwill. No wonder Jordyn bawled her eyes out. All she knows is that Jill is being given away. It was only at the church that JB said "no, you are getting another brother". Good Gawd!

Anonymous said...

Shaving him? You can't be serious?

Anonymous said...

Josiah was shown very briefly (don't blink) escorting his grandmother down the aisle.

Something is definitely going on with his absence from the family for so long. That is the story people care about. I worry if he is okay.

Anonymous said...

"Poor little Jordyn. I don't think Michelle even sees that child."

She is my favorite little one. Such a doll. I will take her if Michelle doesn't want her.

Two extremes - JB blubbering like a baby & not one tear from Michelle. She just sat there with that fake smile on her face the whole time, no emotion whatsoever. So glad Derick's mom could be there, I just wanted to reach through the tv & hug her (after sanitizing, of course)

Beth Anne said...

I think JimBob was NOT crying tears of joy, but tears of pride. He has "produced" the perfect daughter in his mind, the very epitome of all his beliefs and lifestyle choices and rules and guidelines...Jill, who has bought into their Gothard brand of Christianity hook, line, and sinker, and is vocal and adamant about how righteous their way of living is.

I am actually stunned by the amount of media coverage Jill now has. People magazine, and her and Derick were splashed on the Fox News page with the article title of "Our Convenant Marriage" (or, "We are better and more righteous than you common folk), and the very secular E-News has had Jill Duggar updates very consistently throughout the past few weeks. Does JimBob know that "E" also airs shows like Keeping up with the Kardashians, Top Ten Hollywood Scandals, and consistent re-runs of Sex and the City?

No, because his pride doesn't allow him to see beyond his own earthly "kingdom" he has created, and Jill has fulfilled every expectation he has of how he wants a daughter to live and act. Bleh!!!

Buster's mom said...

I am truly disappointed- Where were the Bates? All we saw was Erin playing the piano- but where was the family. I was looking forward to seeing them thru all the Jill hoopla. These Duggars have officially let fame get to their heads. Did Jill even know half of those people that were there- I doubt it!!! She doesn't even have any friends that she speaks of outside of her sisters. It seemed so scripted and not the old Duggar family. Those attendees went just to try to get on TV. If the Duggars didn't have the TV show they would most likely have had only a third if those people there. Boo to Jill and the Duggars for trying to be something they are not!

Lisa Vanamerongen said...

I did find Jackson's comment cute about making a little kid run 10 miles passing notes.

Anonymous said...

Erin Bates played that wedding march like Jim Bob was leading Jill into war. WTH?

Anonymous said...

A covenant marriage is basically a contract you sign when you're married that states divorce is allowed only under extenuating circumstances (i.e., abuse, abandonment, adultery), that the waiting period from the time you file until the time the divorce is allowed is greater, and mandatory counseling is required prior to the divorce being granted. They are only available in some states--not all states recognize them.

Marriage is, and of itself, a covenant--but what they're really referring to is the legal document that goes along with their license.

My husband (who tolerates my fascination with the Duggars) remarked "Geez, Jim Bob sure is upset about his daughter having sex." I mean, we know someday he'll be a mix of sad and happy to see our daughter getting married, but we felt like his behavior was just way out of proportion to the situation.

And we both feel like Jana (who we think is beautiful) is purposefully avoiding courtship and marriage, if for no other reason than all she has to do right now is help to raise her younger siblings who are growing up. If she waits a couple of more years to marry, it could effect the number of children she's forced to have...or maybe she'll leave. I just think it's sad. It's either spinsterhood and being the family slave or endless motherhood. I really don't believe this is what God "wants." He did give us free will after all.

CannedSoup said...

Going barefoot: Do not get it at a formal wedding in a church where everyone else---including one's guests---managed to wear shoes. While I am all for a bride doing her thing on her wedding day, this particular "thing" seemed totally out of context for the venue---not to mention having dirty feet for the honeymoon or possibly sustaining an injury by stepping on something.

Bridesmaids' dresses: Liked the minty color, but the brown belts and shoes did not mesh with the grays of the men's outfits. Also thought they were too "little girl" for young women, thus, not in keeping with the sophistication of the bridal dress and the men's gray suits.

Michelle's dress: Liked the silver color as it went with the men's suits, but it looked uncomfortably hot for that warm June day---a lighter weight silvery dress would have been more comfortable. Was surprised to hear Michelle say that her daughters helped her pick it out. Also, was it necessary to say it was on the sale rack? While I totally understand staying within one's means for a wedding---trying to be "cheap" or at least trying to appear "cheap" takes away from the special nature of the occasion.

Root beer floats: A hard thing to pull off for a sizeable crowd---and too "melty" for a hot day.

Escape truck: Don't understand it---doesn't Derick have a car? Also, when they drove off it didn't appear that they were wearing seatbelts---so I am thinking the whole thing was just for the cameras.

Chaperoning the phone call: An eye-roller for sure. Really? How utterly and completely ridiculous.

Jill and Jessa shaving their men before marriage: Wow, that sure seemed as intimate as any simple kiss---very odd "lines-in-the-sand" they draw as to what is and isn't "appropriate" before marriage.

Piano by Erin: "Here Comes the Bride" never sounds right on the piano...it needs an organ or the sweeter sounds of the stringed instruments for a gentler version. Erin played it (pounded it) way too loudly and, therefore, it had a tinny sound in that huge auditorium.

Cousin Amy: Saw her in the bridal suite---saw her in a still picture with a microphone---maybe she sang at the wedding and that part wasn't shown? Her dress was cute.

Jessa's wedding: Will be interesting to see what she and Ben chose for clothing, venue, decorations, food, etc.---And, will she wear shoes?

capslock said...

Before the wedding aired, there were comments about Michelle's wedding dress being displayed at J&D's wedding?

I didn't see it - did I miss something?

Murphy said...

I was annoyed at how many times they just repeated the same crap over and over "You're so beautiful, amazing!" "I can't believe it!" "THis is so surreal"! OMG GET IT OVER WITH!! And spending so much time together before the wedding was weird. They were all ready to go and were like "3 hours to go!" geez what are you doing for another 3 hours?! Is that how long it took for their "first look" photos?

Surprisngly, Josh grabbing Anna away to walk back up the aisle didn't bother me as much as when Ben did it. Maybe because Ben is still just a boyfriend at that point. Also because Anna was with John David, so he's used to that crap. Ben did it to one of Derrick's unsuspecting friends.

Tammy C said...

After watching the episode I can see why they had lite snack food.People were outside eating and standing.. Thank goodness they remade the floats!

JimBob just one more time wanted to say Do you have a chaperon.Looks like Joy sat in the back the whole time.

When they ran out of the wedding my son said run and keep running!

flowerchild said...

I thought Jim Bob seemed to think Michelle's dress was frumpy. I could see him cheating on her. I loved how Josh pointed out how the didn't care this much about his wedding.

Anonymous said...

Finally!! The Jill and Derrick saga seemed to drag on endlessly. Now we have to go through the the Jessa and Ben love story, the engagement, the preparations, all the explanations and reasons why the Duggars do the things they do and they way they do it, I do wonder if Jessa and Ben will get a house to babysit...or will Jessa move into Ben's room in the storage / garage?

Anonymous said...

Fist pumps from the root beer float lady....yep, that was the highlight of this ridiculousness.

Other favorites:

Let’s start with Derick expressing his concern that is mother may not “make it to the wedding" and Jill chimes in with “or even make it.” At least Joy seemed to sincerely care about Cathy.

Jim Bob asking if they had a "good chaperon" when they went to the chapel to pray and call Derick's mother.

The bridesmaid dresses;

Michelle's fugly, fugly fugly dress;

Michelle's fugly, fugly fugly hair;

The grooming of the groom (by the bride, no less);

The "First Look;"

Th creepy father/daughter conversation before going down the aisle, "I wanted someone just like you and you planned this Pops;"

Jim Bob's inappropriate comments and Boo-Hooing all over the place;

The violent piano wedding march;

The apparent need for blankets on the alter so McKenzie and Josie would stick to their "training;"

Dirty bare feet;

Derick's suit jacket hiked up on his microphone in back;

The puckered-up lips for the new kisses (still waiting for Anna to spit that lemon out and now we have over-pucker Jill);

Seawalds sitting behind JB and M (where was M's family or JB's sister and Amy sitting?);

Josiah and cousin Amy on the down-low;

All the talk of BABIES;

Ben and Josh disrupting the recessional and leaving Derick's groomsmen to walk alone when they were suppose to escort the bridesmaids (Michelle needs to find additional etiquette instruction for this family - their table manners are atrocious, but their behavior in social settings is even worse).

The running (did the entire wedding party have to run too)?

"I don't like root beer"; AND

The pièce de résistance, the one thing that perfectly captures this entire event is the expression on the face of Derick's stepfather. I think Mr, Byrum speaks for all of us.

Anonymous said...

I think I heard Jim Bob make a comment about Michelle's dress that ...I can't remember the exact word but something that she was properly covered.
Jill's bare feet also bothered me but did Darrickdillard wash his brides feet as part of the ceremony?

I think the pianist for the ceremony was the "Bates" girl.

The 1st kiss was so disappointing. Nothing tender of sweet about it.

I would not invite 3,000 people if it meant having popcorn, pickles, cookies, cupcakes and root beer floats in a parking lot.

I cannot understand having a chaperon 2 hours before the wedding unless they are concerned the media will start rumors about when the marriage was consummated.

Etienne said...

If there is one positive thing that need be said about that wedding, it is the piano playing by Erin Bates. Absolutely beautiful.

Sharla said...

I'm rejecting comments that Jill was pregnant before the wedding. Using a due date calculator puts the end to that thought quickly. Let's discuss things we did see on the show.

Brenna said...

That's exactly what I thought! Geez Jill, way to make Derick feel great :/

Anonymous said...

I watched the last 30 mins just to see the wedding. I didn't understand the wedding party running out. Very disrespectful imo. Where were DD and JD going?

Ashley said...

What was the point of showing them going to the salon to get their hair done in trial for the wedding if the sisters were just going to do their own hair and Jill's?? The salon would provide the free trial but not provide free styling for the day of so they opted out?
Jills hair looked awful.

coleen said...

Cousin Amy has some personal pics of Jill's wedding on her instagram. She also explains her last name.

CatMom said...

Jana, Jordan, and Joy Anna crying at the wedding was heartbreaking--especially Jordan knowing she was losing her mother figure. Joy Anna is also losing a mother figure and friend. Jana had tears for her best friend leaving and perhaps some sadness from seeing a younger sister leave and her needing to stay behind. I hope there is a way out for all of them (if they want that). Josh's comments were interesting in one of the confessionals. He mentioned that JimBob basically said, "Okay, little bird. Time to leave the nest. Hope you can fly." With Jill, Josh said that his dad placed a lot more value on her leaving and had to make sure everything was okay. I ABSOLUTELY LOVED Dan Dillard's (Derick's brother) comments at the rehearsal dinner. He indicated he met Jill before Jill and Derick met and that he was "checking her out as a partner for his brother." It was a nice subtle jab at what I believe he thinks of the Duggar courtship system. I'm guessing Dan thinks this is bull. Jill is getting a great husband just as much as Derick is getting a great wife for himself.

Anonymous said...

What bugs me the most about the Duggar girls is that they use the word "like" at least twice if not more in every sentence. It is as if we are watching the Kardashians.

Dar said...

That wedding cost $200,000. It was spent on what???

Anonymous said...

If I hear Jim Bob say " I am giving away my daughter". I wonder home many more times we may hear that with future Duggar daughter weddings.

Leigh Ann said...

Someone asked about Covenant Marriage. You can read about it on Wikipedia. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Covenant_marriage I thought Texas had it, but apparently not. I know they talked about it years ago. It's supposed to be extra insurance for a successful marriage and makes divorce less likely. However, the only people who have them are more likely to informally agree to those terms, anyway.

Anonymous said...

After all the weeks of wedding hype, this is what we waited for?.

Every bride deserves the wedding of her dreams, but really Jill. She was beautiful, although I wish she would have done more with her hair. I will never understand the bare feet under a formal gown? Why not wear flats.

I wish they would have shown more of the actual ceremony, and more of the Bates family. I'm sorry but all three of the bates children that are married have had beautiful weddings from what we have seen in the pictures and videos. Duggar family you need to take some lessons from the Bates wedding planning.

The first kiss was ridiculous and awkward. Why did Jim Bob have to be on stage..

The way they ran down the isle looked silly and immature. Josh and Ben really showed thier immaturity. Can't even imagine what Jessa's wedding will be like.



Leigh Ann said...

"
The apparent need for blankets on the alter so McKenzie and Josie would stick to their "training;"

Oh, my. I haven't seen it yet and it's not on On Demand today. The standard trick for getting the little flower girls and ring bearers to stand in place is to have them stand on a dollar bill and tell them if they stay on it, they can keep it at the end of the ceremony. Or have the little ones go sit in the front row when their part is over. The ring bearer is usually carrying fake rings these days so he doesn't need to be up there until the ring exchange.

flowerchild said...

I also thing that Derrick's stepdad was angry that they couldn't wait a couple of months until his wife finished chemo, and was feeling better. Jill should be ashamed of herself. This is the most self-centered family I've ever seen. Drag premie Josie around the world expose her to millions. Drag Jason with broken jaw to a singing, he was tired & so pale. Make JB's dad's last days a hell. These people are jerks.

Anonymous said...

I think the whole Ben stealing Jessa was scripted. Ben isn't that confident, smart or bold. All in all I didn't mind the wedding it's what they wanted and everyone should have what they want on their wedding day. I have a feeling Jessa's wedding will be a lot more quiet she seems more private.

I hate to say it but I think Ben is to immature, and Jessa doesn't seem to really like him at all. She will dominate that marriage.

Anonymous said...

I always find myself drawn here to read comments in part because I fundamentally disagree with many of the core Duggar beliefs but still find certain things interesting. That said, I am clearly in the minority here as far as views on Jill and Derrick's partnership.

To me they do seem to share critical values and key interests -- yes they have their religion but it's more than that ... it's their desire to travel to underprivileged areas in service of others. I know that I would never ever want to go live in Nepal for 2 1/2 years (or even 2 1/2 months) for any reason. For Derrick to make that commitment I think speaks to a genuine interest in serving others. Note I do not practice any religion or anything like that. I think my point is simply that to me it does appear that Jill and Derrick have connected on something deeper than simply "my dad thinks you're a good guy" and for Derrick, I don't see a gold digger. I see someone who lost a father that he loved and I would imagine that being aware of Jim Bob (ugh, annoys me to write both names haha) likely through his church, and perhaps viewing him as paternal "role model" having 19 kids may have appealed to him. Could have been more to it but given his lifestyle choice to that point in time, the outreach seems more genuine to me.

Ben is a kid -- I think he is 18 or 19, probably smitten with his pretty girlfriend but he has alot of maturing to do even to catch up to the still maturing Jessa. I see more conflict in him assimilating to the family than Derrick.

Michelle's clothing/style choices aside, am I the only person who thinks she is just very very pretty? Even without makeup, and being in her late 40s I think she has a very pretty face and her skin looks amazing.

My life is very different from all of the Duggar girls/women ... I've been in the workforce full time for 30 years, so it's definitely a different path. I do see and hear more "rebellion" in how the older girls talk to their dad ... they show annoyance or the "pops, pops" as away of saying "stop talking" .. even Jessa last night commenting back to Jim Bob something like "well you don't want us to elope do you?".

I realize they are all still indoctrinated into the Duggar life but I think their exposure to and engagement with more and more of the outside world will continue to bring about small but continual changes as each girl in particular finds her way into adulthood. Jim Bob seemed surprised that Jill was going barefoot ... whether anyone agrees with her decision it was clearly exactly that, her decision, and that is what stood out to me.

Not sure why a family with millions needs to act like they're just regular folks on a budget but whatever.

Chaperone for calling mom fighting cancer to see if she is coming to the wedding was ridiculous. Just shut up is what I wanted to say ... if you still have concerns that Derrick is going to shag your unmarried daughter in the time needed to call his dying mother and see if she can attend his wedding, then just accept that your training failed and be grateful they will be hitched in an hour.

Just my thoughts. Thanks for keeping these pages interesting all these years. :)

Allison said...

I didn't get a chance to watch the episode because I was working, but what happened to Jill's hair? It was always so nice and even the morning of the wedding it had nice curls and then it was just gone... flat and frizzy. It's been like that pretty much since she got married. Does she not have to do her hair now that's married?

MCL said...

I thought there were a few sweet moments between Jill and JB but MeChelle was her usual ice queen. She could not even show emotion on her daughter's wedding day for goodness sake!

I believe Jill and Derick will one day regret the amount of people they invited. it was an absolute circus and the food served was a joke. This is a wedding not a carnival.

Ben's dad was grinning like the cat who got the cream. Can you say gravy train?

Joy and Jana are both sweethearts and I hope they can one day escape this cult.

Anonymous said...

Have these people ever heard of a caterer. I agree the food served was way too minimal, but even so, why can't they even hire a caterer to make the food and serve it. The sister of the bride should not be the one passing out the root beer floats. I thought it was ridiculous they didn't have hired professionals to do the catering and serving.

And one last thing that bothers me about the catering situation is that in one of the episodes where they are picking out cake, Jill says "Our good friend offered to make our cake for us" but when the "friend"/ baker explains it, she says "Jill called me up and asked me if I would make their wedding cake" There is a big difference between agreeing to do something when someone asks, and making it sound like everyone offered up their services on their own. I just think they spin things, either in their own mind or for the public, and all of this "volunteering" doesn't exactly happen the way they portray it.

Also, just to correct a previous post, I am pretty sure the TV said if the Duggars spent the national average on a wedding for each daughter, it would add up to $200,000. There is no way they spent close to that on this wedding. The national average is $20,000 for a wedding, and that's including music, dinner, hors d'oeuvers, banquet venue, centerpieces, etc. I think they got off pretty cheap, especially for a wedding with 1000 people, which I still do not understand why they had so many people. a 500 person wedding is huge, and I don't know how you invite 1000 people to a wedding.

Last thing, I was so annoyed they had the little girls and boys on the stage. They should have walked down the aisle and sat with their parents. It was a huge distraction that they were restless, and of course they were restless, they are all like 5 years old and younger. They should have been in the pews with parents, not on stage for the ceremony. And why weren't the boys on Derick's side and girls on Jill's side. I like doing things a little different and breaking with tradition, but I thought that was kind of weird to have couples on the sides of the bride and groom instead of bridesmaids with the bride and groomsmen with the groom.

stupididiotshutup said...

That wedding coordinator (the title should be used loosely) was annoying. $10 says that whole "melted ice cream" crap was completely staged for "drama."

Anonymous said...

Looks like Cousin Amy might have sang at the wedding. I saw a picture of her in the church (at the rehearsal maybe?) with a microphone and it looked like she was singing.

Anonymous said...

Jim Bob's comment to Michelle regarding her dress was: "that is one of the most modest dresses I have ever seen!"

Anonymous said...

My husband and I did a "first look" on our wedding day too. It was very special to have that time together privately before the ceremony. It also made for some really great pictures. I certainly can't fault them for that. It's kind of a Southern thing, I think.

Anonymous said...

The $200K was sloppy reporting from E. There was a popup in the show that said something like all the Duggar girl weddings together could be $200K.

Anonymous said...

I really don't understand the running down the aisle by Jill and Derrick. Why couldn't they have walked and gone into a private room after. It is obvious that the entire wedding party running was planned, but J&D running was as if they were in trouble and running away from something. Couldn't have possibly been the TLC cameras...

Anonymous said...

Perfect!! Anonymous 10/29/2014 7:51 AM
Can I add a couple more?

-Having an episode of "finding a venue" when all along they were going to be married in the same venue as Mom and Pops....gee so sweet.

-Wishing Derrick could have dropped the robot impersonation and squeezed a tear out for his mom's situation during their "couch talk"....just sad.

-Glad we didn't have to hear about John David not having a girlfriend yet.

-Did wonder why Dear Ol' Pops didn't think Jana wasn't a good enough candidate for Derrick?...she is gorgeous.

- "Root Beer Float Tragedy"..me thinks that it was contrived for "the drama" effect....can't believe they even considered to use melted ice cream.

Anonymous said...

It's a shame that the hair trial run episode was only for TLC filler. Jill could've used some help on the actual wedding day...

Anonymous said...

Honestly though, in all fairness, we all say dumb & insensitive things sometimes. The difference is our moments don't get aired on national television. For all we know, after she said it she may have thought whoops that didn't sound nice at all & she may have apologized to Derick later. TLC should have cut that part out. They are to blame too.

Anonymous said...

No joke for a split second I didn't know who they were until the cameras got them in the front. I thought OH MY GOD who just came up & kissed JoyAnna!! Oh the shame!

Anonymous said...

He almost looked disgusted when the camera moved in on Cathy clapping after the big kiss!

Anonymous said...

I would really like to hear Derick get ONE full sentence out before his bride cuts him off. Very annoying. Even Jessa lets Ben speak & if ANYBODY needs to be cut off, it's Ben. Poor thing is so dull & awkward.

Anonymous said...

For the poster that said Jill and Derick's wedding cost $200K.. That's not true. There was a pop-up that said that it would amount to that if all of the girls were married.

Loved seeing Miss Cathy at the ceremony. Being as sick as she was she looked so much put together than MeChelle. That gray tin foil dress was horrendous.


Derick took Jill to see Cinderella on Broadway and to a Nepali/Tibeten restaurant in Queens. I hope these are small steps to broaden Jill's horizons. I see her more the adventurous of all the older girls.

Jill, you could have worn ballet flats if you didn't want to wear heels.

I believe Jill and Derick are truly in love and Jessa and Bin more in lust. I hope that Bin is not the possessive and jealous type. In his TH he said something like no one but he will walk Jessa down the aisle and out the church.

I like Derick's brother Dan. He's so not into the dog and pony show and I loved his speech at the rehearsal dinner which Miss Cathy hosted but I'm sad that she couldn't make it. I thought it was great that her late husband's bbq recipe was incorporated to honor him.

auntliddy said...

Anon- that giving her away thing and the ' you invest in your daughter' irritates the heck out of me. You can't give away a human being!!!!!! And what was his ' investment?' Eaising her?? So so annoying to hear jill discussed like a commodity.

Anonymous said...

Lol White Snake!!! Hahahaha!!

Anonymous said...

I agree. & I love popcorn but POPCORN does not belong anywhere near a wedding reception.

Buckeye said...

I don't watch this cult fest of a show, bit reading comments here always bring me a chuckle.

a few thoughts: Fellow Fundie friends of the Duggars with the moniker, "Query"?? Oh, the irony!

AS IF the whole courtship and no kiss til married is even a blip on any meaningful ethics scale, much less some kind of gold standard of morality.

AS IF it is healthy for fundie dads to be so absolutely Pervy about their daughters' sexuality.

AS IF Fundie dad's own their daughters' virginity and it is THEIRS to choose to whom and when HE can give it to another fundie man.

If I were the mother-in-law with a serious diagnosis, I'd be pulling together immediately my Restraining Order paperwork, lest my illness became the property of the Duggars like poor Grampa Duggar's was - just another commodity to be exploited ON cue and ON camera, robbing me of any hope of maintaining my privacy and dignity just so the Duggars could wheel my poor, broken mind and body in front of the filming crew in a crass and unapologetic grab for tv ratings.

Life may not be all about pickles and hairspray, but neither should it be diminished to male dominated married sex-on-demand with the ultimate goal of giving my husband/captor sufficient quivers to prove to all other Fundies just what a heap of godly manhood he is, with virginal daughters the icing on his Fundie Patriarchal crown


Anonymous said...

I just found out that Jessa's fiance is only 18 years old and she is 22. No wonder why he is so immature! He is still a baby himself! I smell a future divorce on this marriage. She is so pretty, so many out there and she picks someone who she can mother. What a shame!

Anonymous said...

"....that the waiting period from the time you file until the time the divorce is allowed is greater, and mandatory counseling is required prior to the divorce being granted."

I'll bet the mandatory counseling would be done by JB and Michelle.

Wednesday said...

I was looking at Jill's Instagram and noticed that in most of her pics she seems to have a crazed look in her eyes. Is it excitement, or her trying to be Mechelle?

Anonymous said...

"The first kiss was ridiculous and awkward. Why did Jim Bob have to be on stage.."

I got this picture in my head from Devil's Advocate, where Al Pacino is watching with this excited look of anticipation while his daughter and Keanu Reeves were going to "get together."

Anonymous said...

But it wasn't private there was a film crew there. It looked so staged.

TaterTot said...

Liked:
The preacher's words during the wedding about MUTUAL respect being key to a good marriage. Refreshing.

The getaway truck. Nice that the little imps didn't get to trash this one.

Seeing some REAL tension between all of them trying to figure out who stands where when during the rehearsal. Everyone has an opinion, huh? :)

The first look. I'd never heard of it. Thought it was sweet.

Her shaving his face on the day. I don't blame her. My man has facial hair and I dread the thought of him trying to trim his beard on his own before an important event. What can go wrong sometimes does.

The manic piano playing (see below).*

Then I went.... ?????

The manic piano playing*. Maybe it was the audio, but it was frantic! :)

All the baby talk. Clearly selectively edited into the show. Nobody wants to let the young couple breathe and get used to them being together. Even Anna got crazy eyes about it.

The running down the aisle.

Josh and Ben 'claiming' their women from the groomsmen. Um. Get a grip, guys. Oh wait. They did.

I did NOT like the informal bridesmaid dresses. I know she was looking for vintage, shabby, etc. But it doesn't need to be so informal. Don't like the 'slip showing' look.

The proposal reenactment. Please. No more. Stop this. It's weird.

JB, you're gaining a son. HOWEVER, if you will remeber the Institute's words about authority. Jill is NO LONGER under your authority. She's under Derick's. He's the head of his household. He's not under you. I hope you let him run things in HIS home. Derick, Jill, get your own contract agent and protect your interests. Put your foot down, Derick, respectfully, and remind JB of the authority the Gothardites are so fond of reminding people about....

Checkerboard said...

Just finished watching the wedding and WOW!
Michelle's dress: I don't think I would want my husband to comment on how I looked so modest.
The running down the isle: Ben (Seewald) butting in was a little immature. Josh, of course, has to kiss Anna at every family wedding, because they did get married first! That kiss was kind of awkward.
Derick's reaction at the first look: That was cute, and he was ready to kiss her, and be married!
Duggar Hair: Why do the girls feel like they need to treat the men like their members of the Buddy group. WHY didn't Michelle get her hair done nicely for this special occasion?
Previews for the Benessa engagement: I cringe during the 30 second TH of those two, every time. I don't know if I can handle a whole episode. I honestly think they should drop the TV show and go out on their own, they are not going to make in JimBob's circus, I don't see that couple "trending" in a positive way.
Lastly, why do they all have to talk about them having babies, they got married 30 seconds ago. For a Christian family that puts such a high value on marriage, why must there be a pressure to conceive so quickly and make that the focus of marriage. Unfortunately, if you're a Duggar you do not have the privilege of getting to know your spouse with out your siblings chaperoning your every encounter, and are then expected to produce offspring once the wedding vows are said.

hello said...

I thought it was really weird for Jimboob to be at the alter and saying you may kiss the bride with that creepy grin. Anna's dad did the same thing when she married Josh. Is that their way of passing over their authority to the husbands?
I know the family is obsessed with babies, but Anna saying- practice makes progress and progress makes babies was just weird. And of course she said it with the bug eyed look and the high pitched voice. That must be something that Michelle trains the girls to do when they become engaged.

puddin' said...

I just had to bust out laughing at the "SILVER XMAS TREE DRESS COMMENT" good one!!! I thought this wedding was like one big ole' mess. And boob needs to shut his pie=hole...TLC should shut this man up cuz i dont think Me-chelle can or even cares too they think his comments are "cute". Grow the heck up JBOOB!

puddin' said...

Laughing again at the commenter who made reference to "The Devils Advocate" .....Boy You got that right...Ole Poppa Duggar is a sick ticket.

Stephanie said...

In Nepal Jimbob said to Jill "I wasn't the best looking guy but your mom knew my heart". He pretty much said Derrick wasn't good looking on camera. He isn't good looking like Ben but he is ready ro marry in this lifestyle and Jill looms like a super model next tp him. I always thought Jill was pretty but out of the four she was at the bottom of my list of the four and shes the first one to catch an adult Christian man with a college education. Good for her.

Stephanie said...

Yes. Jana hair is looking good in her interview s also. She does a small side part and from the middle brushes back which lifts the crown. Joy is still doing the side part all the way to the back which makes it look flat and dirty.

Stephanie said...

That was a real slap in the face. I have never seen Jimbob do something like that tohis own sons. And he NEVER treats Derick like that. Its an obvious difference. The shed room the toilet cleaning the list goes on. Maybe hes allowing them to marry because he can treat him like craps

Anonymous said...

I don't get why she had volunteers for her wedding instead of paying people. It's not a charity especially when they had so much expensive wedding registry gifts.

Anonymous said...

I hope the guests did not give big gifts at the wedding. If I was at a cheap wedding like that with no alcohol or even a meal I would def not give a huge gift.

Anonymous said...

The girls did their hair themselves for the wedding so I wonder why they had hair trials . They def did the hair trials just to make an episode

Anonymous said...

I thought so as well! Even at her shower, she looked as if she was trying too hard.

Rudy Tecat said...

I don't know how much that wedding cost, but TLC sure made the bucks with all those commercials! Luckily, I was able to fast forward through them when I watched it on demand.

Anonymous said...

It made me sick to see the rating this circus received!

Katie's Mom said...

I figured this episode would do well but had no idea it would do this well in the ratings. I hate to see this ministry descend into a TV/show

Anonymous said...

Am I the only one who noticed Ben's face when Jim Bob started leading him away by his tie.....he was PISSED!!

Anonymous said...

I wonder how Derick's relationship is with his stepdad.
His mother either married when he was in college or Nepal so he may not have gotten to know him very well. I'm afraid he may have a better relationship with his father in law more than his stepfather

Anonymous said...

I think Michelle wore the same dress as Kelly Bates did for her son's wedding!!! That or borrowed it!

Anonymous said...

If I was there, I would've ordered a couple of pizzas!

Anonymous said...

The double standards the Duggars have is really beginning to annoy me.
The whole no holding hands before engagement, 'side hugs' (like come on) only etc etc for couples is ridiculous BUT then during the wedding procession all of the girls were linked by the boys - intimate enough for people who are not even in courtships? And then Jill gives some random guy a full hug after the wedding. Why is he allowed a full hug but not her future husband on the day of her wedding?
And, that kiss was awkward as hell.
Also, the church was not on fire, why did they have to run out of the place?
Oh and I wouldn't even serve that crap food at a birthday party. No class

Anonymous said...

Who was the Amish looking lady opening the church door for the Duggars? Is this some kind of Baptist dress we don't know about or was she a "worker?"

Anonymous said...

What are sweeps?

Wampascat said...

Sex on the brain!!!! They got married and RAN down the aisle. Commented on the "fun" they had while alone for the first time after the ceremony. Was probably pregnant by the reception. ;-)

Anonymous said...

Memo to Michelle: knock off the reminders of your scrupulosity about physical modesty. with your 1980 Roadkill 'do and your frumpilicious tinfoil tog, NO one wants to see even a square inch of your "mommy skin". get over yourself.

Anonymous said...

I went back to look at Kelly Bates' MOB dress from Zach wedding and it is identical to the one Michele wore except for a lace modesty panel at the neckline which could easily been added. The color, the bolero jacket, the scallops, the beaded waste band - everything!

Clearance rack or hand me down?

Maria said...

Dirty bare feet was gross, while wearing an elegant looking gown. White ballet slippers would have been functional and pretty.

I thought the wedding ceremony was nice. The first look was sweet. I'm sorry but those root beer floats looked gross.

Anonymous said...

Funny pic of Josiah getting ready for the wedding.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-JjNVPB4iTy0/VFCBOD7kPVI/AAAAAAAAPTU/htnCLamH0fg/s1600/IMG_6872.jpg

BLB said...

I go to a wedding to celebrate the newlyweds and give the gift I want to give. Refreshments and entertainment do not sway my gift selection.

polkadothill said...

I just wanted more magic... I wanted to feel candle glow, the first kiss, the adoring gaze, the love oozing from the pores....through editing, this may have been achieved......instead it all was a bland jim bob production... I feel bad for the couple...

Anonymous said...

I find the Duggar's giddy emphasis on procreation somewhat tasteless and, after further study, not entirely Biblical. Check out www.desiringgod.org/articles/does-the-bible-permit-birth-control for a thoughtful, balanced view of the subject. Bottom line: a couple's wise stewardship of their resources may include limiting the size of their family and also taking steps to determine the spacing of their children's births. Like Jill, I experienced severe morning sickness (that lasted all day) with both of my pregnancies, as well as disabling bouts of depression that I've struggled with for years. Two pregnancies and two children was the limit of what I could manage. My husband and I both have college degrees and worked full-time prior to the birth of our first son, but then we made financial sacrifices so that I could be home when our boys were young. We also made sure to have a term life insurance policy for my husband that would have replaced his income until I was able to go back to work. I worry for young people who embrace the Duggar's no-birth-control-ever policy and find themselves in desperate financial or relational circumstances. The Christian life is about loving God with all our heart, and loving our neighbor as ourself--NOT about producing as many children as possible.

Anonymous said...

I just checked Jessa's registry on Amazon. Darn, someone already purchased the $25 gift certificate for Burger King. (I am not kidding!)

Anonymous said...

Is it weird that right after watching this I switched over to Sons of Anarchy? I don't think I've ever watched the two highest rated shows in the same night back to back. Couldn't be more opposite either.

Anonymous said...

Why does Jessa allow her father to treat Ben so poorly? She is supposed to love this guy and wants to marry him. Where are his parents to defend the treatment of their son and why did they allow this travesty in the first place? How can they sell their own son to the Duggars with a "side order of poor treatment"?
The Seewalds are jerks,IMO, for this reason alone. Jim Bob continues to wipe his butt with Ben, which is wrong, no matter how you feel about the kid, he is a human being wanting a nice life and love..he's just young and needs to grow up a lot first, so I can't understand why either of these families would have approved of a courtship at this time in the first place.

Bubbles said...

It's a religious thing, meaning they are holding themselves to God's law instead of man's law, and divorce is only an option in extreme circumstances such as abuse or adultery.

Bubbles said...

I don't think the Duggars can be considered a ministry and the Gothardite views they hold are certainly not worth being spread around. I don't want my daughters thinking their only purpose in life is to please a man and make as many babies as possible.

Marites H. said...

If it were the same Mother of the Bride dress it looked MUCH better on Mrs. Bates. Apparently Jim Bob made some comment that it was the most modest dress he'd ever seen. Wow! What a compliment for a man to give his wife "you look modest in that dress." He couldn't think of a better adjective to describe how his wife looks? Well, he probably doesn't know what an adjective is. As a grammar geek, their massacre of the English language grates on my nerves. Personally, I think it is really bad timing for TLC to air Jill's wedding so close to Jessa's actual wedding day. Jill "the Koolaid drinker" Duggardillard is clearly the frontrunner for her parents' limited attention span. I don't hold out much hope for Jessa & Ben, but I do hope she has the kind of special day that every bride deserves.

katt said...

I thought the ceremony was kind of sweet. D&J appear to really love each other and I wish the best for them.

JB is creepy. Enough said.

The guys and kids looked fine but other than the color, the bridesmaid's dresses were just plain awful. Jana did her best so it wasn't her fault. What's with the belts? They looked ridiculous.

I don't think Jill went barefoot for the reception. I remember seeing a pair of silver flip-flops hanging with the bridal gown in the dressing room. So maybe she was barefoot only for the ceremony. Running around outdoors barefoot would never be a good idea and I think Jill had enough common sense to realize that.

They way they left the church was just plain tacky.

Love the use of the word "manic" used to describe Erin's piano skills. That's putting it nicely. Unfortunately on several occasions Erin has shown that this is the only way she knows how to play. As a pianist for close to fifty years who has taught and performed, I've always taken issue with her musicianship (or lack of thereof) so I'll explain further. Erin needs to learn the nuances of the instrument. A piano can be played loud and soft, hence the name "pianoforte". Embellishing with too much arpeggio (broken chords) and runs (scales) does nothing for the music; it actually shows a lack of skills, and even though it sounds impressive, in reality they are very easy to do. If Erin had mastered her sense of interpretation there would be no need for this. Her playing completely lacks emotion and the fact that all she did was bang out chords was the reason why some people described her playing as "angry". Playing anything in fortissimo will not sound angry if it's done properly. I had to mute the sound because it bothered me so much. She's going to TEACH?? It makes me shudder. The string quartet was very nice. Why didn't Erin collaborate with them? There's a huge repertoire available for piano/violin. She could have even accompanied the Bach cantata that they played and it would have been beautiful. My take on this is that she has little to no skills as an accompanist.

All in all, an interesting episode. My best to the couple. Derrick seems like an OK guy and if he manages to stay away from the kool-aid, I think he could be very good for Jill. Hopefully they'll be on their own at one time or another.

Anonymous said...

I seriously thought that Michelle in her grey layered dress looked like an Old English Sheepdog from far away. The layers with the long awful hair. I know it's a terrible thing to write but that was the first thing that came to mind. :-(

Anonymous said...

Just watched THE WEDDING on demand.Words cannot describe how cheesy and tacky this circus was.
If I heard the words sweet and amazing one more time,I was going to lose it.
Jill and Derick were married all of 5 minutes and all we heard from Anna and Me-chelle was babies,babies,babies.
How about the pink and blue balloons in the getaway truck.Obvious or what?

Anonymous said...

I finally watched the wedding. The worst part for me to watch was ben taking jessa down the aisle and josh grandstanding as he kissed Anna and did the same thing ben did...sorry but I thought that was disgraceful! I can't stand Jimbob but at least he took a moment to try and comfort Jordyn...Michelle is a sorry excuse for a mother

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