Tuesday, November, 18, 2014, 9:00 PM, A Reveal to Remember

The DC Duggars make it to Chicago in the nick of time for David & Priscilla's gender reveal party! Who will be right, Team Boy or Team Girl? Later, the family enjoys the sights of the "Windy City" and caps off their trip with a camping excursion.

61 minutes

2.210 M viewers and a .7 rating.

167 comments:

Rudy Tecat said...

Uh...everyone knows by now that the baby was a girl, she was born on November 12th, and her name is Daria Lynn Waller (obviously named after that character on the old MTV Beavis & B***head cartoons). In these days of social media, news travels fast. TLC might have to alter their production practices and speed up the showing of these episodes.

Boo's Mom said...

This seems a bit much considering the baby was born this week and David Waller posted video on Youtube. LOL

Anonymous said...

I think it was great that she recovered so quickly after labor. To be dressed, receiving visitors, and you tubing 3 hours after birth is amazing. But I think it must be hard on the mothers not to have that rest time.

Anonymous said...

TLC knew Pris's due date and they could have stepped up the party reveal episode for this week instead of leaving off with Josh and Anna's trip like they did. It would have been better to see the reveal on the 11/11 episode. It is anticlimactic, like most of what TLC is airing timing-wise with the Duggars. Jessa's wedding seems a while ago now, to anticipate seeing it next March.

Anonymous said...

The baby girl was named Davia, not Daria.

Kay said...

I was flipping channels earlier and came across an episode of the Duggars with Josh and David wrestling in the mud. When they went up to the stairs, Priscilla came down and Anna was behind them. I could have sworn Anna was pregnant. I don't mean "maybe she is, maybe she isn't", like full on belly. Did anyone else see that episode? Is that the new one?

Anonymous said...

Instead of airing all those boring filler episodes, this could have aired awhile ago. 2 wedding prep episodes + wedding episodes would have been just great. I'm dreading a million wedding prep episodes for the next wedding.

Anonymous said...

I thought this show was about the Duggars not Anna's and Josh's inlaws. Really stretching for episodes TLC.

Anonymous said...

why do the duggars keep talking about babies? i really hope Josh and Anna have no more kids. seems anna cannot even handle the three she has already? If they need Jana there to help them and they hid her from the camera.

Leigh Ann said...

By March no one is going to care about Jessa's wedding.

Anonymous said...

Sorry, folks, but I'm of the opinion that these fundy husbands treat their expectant wives like pack mules. It is on more than one occasion that these women have given birth and within hours are up, dressed and having to perform like trained seals for their husbands' videos, and family visits. It is very important for a newly delivered mother to have her rest. Who is handling the household, and "other child" care and needs of the husband ie, meals, laundry and cleaning? We need to know about those after birth things. These husbands come across as selfish, careless, and domineering. All but Michelle Duggar. She delivers, and is treated like the crown princess..resting, household and baby help, etc.. it's disgusting. Shame on those husbands.

Judy said...

I don't think it's the husbands who are making the wives be up, dressed, functional like that. I truly believe that the Duggars and those like the Duggars are taught you must not complain, ever. Do we ever see any of their kids complain? Everyone is always smiling and happy. After you give birth is no different. Swallow your discomfort, make an effort to be ready to go at a moment's notice, smile. I'd be exhausted in those families in about ten seconds.

Anonymous said...

You are right and Michelle gets to have her babies in a hospital, maybe Anna really wanted to deliver at home but the delivery of Marcus looked pretty scary. Then after the entire duggars family shows up to visit.

Anonymous said...

I do think Priscilla looks great for just having given birth. I can't imagine having to be on camera right after though. More power to her I guess.....

got2bdrc said...

Several years ago, a friend of mine decided on a home birth. A physician friend of theirs came over to assist, but she mostly did it on her own. Right after the baby was born, she got up, got dressed, and cooked dinner for her husband and the physician. When I asked her if that was her idea or one of the men's, she said she felt so good being able to draw a full breath after not being able to for several months that getting up to cook was nothing.

They weren't fundie--they are flower children, complete with tye dye, no leg-or-armpit shaving, vegan, the whole nine yards.

If a new mom wants to get up, dressed, and welcome visitors, that's for her to decide--as long as she doesn't endanger her or baby's health. Wishing the Wallers well with their new baby!

Anonymous said...

If Jana was with Anna & Josh on the RV trip, then Anna was outright lying when she said they would be outnumbered by the kids & it would test their parenting skills. But that's exactly what she said. I know I thought it was ridiculous when she said there would be 3 kids, & just the two of them. I also thought if she couldn't handle 3 under 5 maybe she should reconsider further children. I had no idea she was lying & that's exactly what I consider it, if they had Jana by my count that was 3 adults & 3 children.

Anonymous said...

I agree that Anna would have outright lied about the adults to children ration on this vacation is Jana was with them. They need to fess up and let us know what the truth was about that trip.
Regarding these home births: I wonder how long it is before the parents take these newborns to their pediatrician for an evaluation on them. How can they wait even one week before the baby is examined? Many times issues that are not physically visible can be present and time could matter here. I believe that these parents are putting themselves first before the welfare of the child in not birthing in a "hospital setting" where not only is there an obstetrician present, but the pediatrician is also present to immediately take over the care of the newly delivered child. It's all about looking more holy and I also believe it's a cost factor as they are all either cheap or too poor to pay for proper prenatal and delivery care.

Anonymous said...

I know with Josh & Ann they have always taken their newborn to a pediatrician a week later. I agree that it's dangerous. You never know what a DR might observe, that the average lay person wouldn't notice.

Marti said...

Kay, that episode was when Anna was pregnant with Marcus.

Anonymous said...

Jana was not with them on their summer road trip ... she accompanied Josh and Anna on the fundie family road trip in October, arriving Oct. 30 in Tonitown for Jessa's wedding.

sandi said...

In additon,Priscilla said they just came home from a 9 week road trip in an RV.She compared it to Mary being pregnant with Jesus,going to Bethlehem on a mule,bouncing around the whole way.Sure,but that trip didn't take 9 weeks! That is quite long for someone to be bouncing around in an RV while heavily pregnant.

Anonymous said...

I find it appalling that these families, Josh's and the Wallers in particular that they allow their wives to labor AT HOME for an ungodly number of hours without any pain medication to relieve the stress on their hearts. It's amazing that these women can endure such pain for more than a few hours without it. These people should remember that although they are relatively young women NOW, the more they labor and age "naturally" and for an unmerciful number of hours a toll will be taken on their bodies and hearts. They need better accommodations, IMO. It's all about being "more godly and cheap" because of the cost in securing a real obstetrician and pediatrician on hand during labor and delivery. They really don't put the mother and child first at all. They take chances. I fear for Anna and Priscilla, although she was fortunate that her labor was 8 hours this time, as she labored with Paul for a long time and David had her up and dressed making yet another stupid video about the event waaaay too soon.

Anonymous said...

I know we saw pics of Jana with Anna and Josh in the summer at a state fair in the Midwest. I believe it was reported they were going to Priscilla's. I think it was the same road trip.

Nancy Nurse said...

I don't thik the home births & long labor without any pain relief has a thing to do with finances. It's all about how "Eve," sinned in "The Garden Of Eden," & now all, "Fundie Women," must pay the price. As far as these women going on road trips the way they do, don't forget Anna on the Duggar bus, getting home just in time to deliver a baby. That's just plain stupidity. You would think after what Michelle went through with Josie & Jubilee (regardless of her age) they would know better.I know some may not agree, but I'll bet others in the medical field will agree with me.

Anonymous said...

Anna first home delivery was because DR Sarver was out of town. They didn't want a male DR & it was Josh that actually said: "I THINK WE COULD DO THIS AT HOME! A fist baby, a young mom & "you think you could do this at home." This is beyond belief! Just exactly how much did Josh suffer during Anna's labor & delivery? We know he was able to go & take a nap. I have often wondered how Anna's parents felt when they saw the episode of Michael's birth & how much she suffered with the labor & delivery of Michael. That should have showed them that not every labor & delivery will be the same.

Anonymous said...

How very "humble," Priscilla is, comparing herself to Mary traveling when she was pregnant with Jesus

Anonymous said...

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think Michelle ever had a home birth, at least since they have been on Tv it is dangerous and I wonder if that is why Dr. Sarver is no longer their doctor.

Anonymous said...

I really don't see what the big deal is about having a natural birth. I'm agnostic and want to have my children naturally. Women did it for centuries before modern medicine, so I really don't see the problem. Also, not having your child in a hospital isn't the end of the world. Millions of people do it everyday across the world. Yes, I agree that you should take them to the doctor to get checked out as soon as possible, but I don't think not having kids in a hospital means you must be a crazy, cheap fundie. It is a personal choice that should be respected.

Anonymous said...

How is it that Michelle gets the birthing "royal treatment" and gets to go to a hospital with everything at her disposal if needed? How is the treated differently than her own daughter in law and/or Priscilla.
I agree that the thoughtless road trip was ill planned and probably would have been ill advised by an obstetrician. What would have that jerk, David Waller have done if Pris had early labor and or with complications as a result of being on that stupid motor home and away from obstetric care? I don't know why their parents don't speak up with some godly wisdom and common sense. Those women are ALL dishrags, except for Michelle, she gets the "mink coat treatment". Someone, please explain if they know.

Anonymous said...

When Michelle ran into problems with her gallbladder, while she was pregnant with Josie, DR Sarver had still been her DR up to that point, & she was scheduled to have a hospital birth. She ended up being rushed to different hospital, due to her gallbladder problem. I remember she had to be air lifted to a hospital, where DR Sarver was not on staff. They treated her gallbladder symptoms as best they could, not able to do surgery which was the only solution to the problem due to the pregnancy. After Josie was delivered prematurely,& Michelle was recovered, they kept telling her she needed her gallbladder removed. She kept refusing on the grounds that she wanted to keep whatever organs God had given her in the first place. Eventually, after Josie was out of the hospital, & home, Michelle was in so much distress, & she was told if she ever wanted to get pregnant again, she absolutely needed the surgery, so she gave in & had the surgery. If it hadn't been for the problem with her gallbladder, she would have had DR Sarver as her DR & delivered Josie in the original hospital as planned. For one of the babies, I don't remember which one, perhaps Jordyn, they took all the kids on a tour of the hospital to see where the DR would take the baby "out of momma's tummy."

puddin' said...

Me Me Meee-chelle thinks the world revolves around her and only her. Thats why she gets the "mink treatment" and to hell with the rest of the them. Selfish OLD woman! I for one am sick of her talking all the time on every subject. Like she is the big "expert" on life...what a joke. She only wants to pop out kids every nine months...NURSE THEM (we always here her talk about nursing) then by bout 6months its out to the buddys room cuz Old Me Me Me-chelle has another bun in the oven.......so glad that the oven isn't working, if it were though she would be right back at it. *FREEEE JANA*

Missy said...

With Anna's first pregnancy she had DR s Sarver for an obstetrician. We saw them going to her prenatal visits. Then when DR Sarver out of town when Anna went into labor, Josh & Anna decided to have a home delivery, with just Miss Theresa, the doula there to help them. Of course Michelle & Jill, who were in Texas arrived just seconds before MacKenzie was born. However at that time, Jill was not involved in the study of midwifery, so I'm not exactly sure what her role in the delivery was. They had never mentioned having a home birth until they found out DR Sarver wasn't available. After Mac's birth, I guess they decided to stick with home births & we never saw Anna visit another obstetrician again. We even saw them go to some little sort of store front building called :"What's Kicking." to find out the baby's gender. Marcus's birth was a little scary, as it seemed nobody prepared Anna for a "water delivery." But nothing compared to Michaels. I thought Anna was going to die with Michael. Anna drives me crazy with her speech, the way she talks to the cameras, the way she gazes adoringly at Josh, as though he was the wisest man on the face of the earth. But I have to give credit, where credit is due. If I ever went through labor & delivery the way she did, with Michael, I would never have another home birth, or even one with a midwife present. I'd arrive at the hospital admitting desk & say; "I'm not even giving my name until you knock me out!"

Anonymous said...

Jinger and Joseph were born at home. I can't believe she had home births after having a prior c-section. I know it is possible but the risks aren't worth it.

Aimee said...

I remember an episode when they had Jennifer or maybe it was Jordyn. Michelle had a c-section at the hospital and then the next clip is Jim Bob + all the kids in front of news cameras showing the brand new baby to the whole world. Then they showed Michelle just lying in the bed, shivering, recovering from surgery. No one was checking on her, esp not her "adoring" husband. He was too busy showing off the newest child with a Duggar head and Duggar nose. With the exception of being at the hospital, I don't think she is treated much better than Anna or Priscilla. For these Fundie Men it's all about them and their ability to make SO MANY babies!

Anonymous said...

I hope the women receive all the medical attention that they need. I think it is a personal decision if they have the baby at home or not. Because David Waller's sister in law had her baby at the hospital. I still think that you need to a least talk to someone in the medical profession before deciding on a home birth.

Katie's Mom said...

I can't believe someone else remembers that scene in the hospital. It was when Jordyn was born. I remember Michelle shivering after that C-section. JB was asking her about the baby's name, it was Jordyn Grace Makyia(sp)& Michelle couldn't get the words out, her teeth were chattering so much. I remembered thinking that there was something wrong & she needed medical attention right away. Also don't forget, they can never leave for the hospital, no matter how far Michelle's labor has progressed, until Jim Bob is given his breakfast to go, by either Jana or Grandma. I'd have a few choice words for my son, if his wife was in labor with their 17th,18th or whatever child & he was waiting for his breakfast to go, & he does wait for that breakfast. He shows the breakfast to the camera, so everyone knows he's being catered to, even if Michelle is bent over a chair & moaning. I often wonder what the deal is with Grandma Mary catering to her son that way. I know Jana doesn't know anything different than dad being waited on hand & foot.

Anonymous said...

DR Sarver was Michelle's DR when she was pregnant with Jubilee. That's the office she went to, to have the ultra sound to find out the gender of the child.

sandi said...

If Michelle had a spinal epidural for Jordyn's birth,that would explain the shivering.I know because it happened to me,too.It just affects the nervous system in that way,and it's normal and harmless (just annoying).It usually goes away quickly,once it wears off.

taurus0385 said...

Anyone know what the season finale is??

Anonymous said...

Why is it so wrong for a woman to want to have a natural birth and/or home birth?! I have 2 kids...both natural births and I felt GREAT right after delivery!! With my first we saw both a dr and midwife...the nidwife spent more time with me, was more excited about the pregnancy, and helped me stay healthy (eat right, exercise, watch BP, etc). To the dr I was just a number. She never even learned my name. My midwife went with us to the hospital and stayed right by my side advocating as my doula. The second time we had a home birth...both natural births, but I felt 100 times better after the home birth than the hospital birth. I know it's not for everyone, but why can't we just let women birth in the way they are most comfortable?! If someone feels comfortable with a planned c-section then go for it!! But let's stop accusing women who don't get an epidural, or give birth at home as being selfish and uncaring. I choose natural/home birth as I believe it is safest for baby and mommy! Sorry for the rant...thanks for letting me vent

Anonymous said...

I still ask, why does Michelle get a hospital to deliver, and Anna has to labor and deliver in an unsterile house with no emergency back up equipment or pain relief? It isn't more godly IMO, for women have prayed and even died over lack of safe birthing environments...medical science has made life better with surgeries, medications, and cures for physical ails, and it is IMO, the Almighty who has inspired the intelligence of those wonderful researchers and doctors for those milestones. It is NOT a sin to partake of the benefits of the times in which we live. These women need to explain, (Anna and Pris) why they don't deliver in a hospital setting with these safeguards in place just in case.

Nancy Nurse said...

I realize that women that have an epidural or spinal, are prone to problems like the shivering. However I know we usually always keep a very close eye on these patients. As you mentioned, it involves the nervous system, & believe me you never know when the nervous system is involved. You just need to be cautious with a patient that's going through something like that. After delivery you can never be sure that everything is going smoothly.

Anonymous said...

Yes, a woman can, of course, choose to deliver at home or not, but it was obvious that Anna was laboring for a very long and hard time..things were not good for her and no one thought that maybe she should have gone to a hospital earlier or called an ambulance to transport her to one. The same for Pris with son Paul, she labored for an ungodly number of hours,, without any pain meds, which can tax a woman's heart...jmho

sandi said...

Nurse Nancy,I presume Anesthesia did keep a good eye on Michelle.That's their job and they risk a lot (like a lawsuit) if they don't.If her vitals were good,then they would turn her care over to the nurses, with instructions,such as checking her b/p,temp. and respirations every so often.
It's difficult to tell,what with editing and such,just how much monitoring Michelle got from the staff.

Nancy Nurse said...

An woman that has a C-Section will be monitored by anesthesia but, also will be monitored by post-op nurses. I think we just didn't see that with Michelle in that particular delivery, because they wanted all the kids right there in view of the TV cameras & Michelle appeared to sort of be by herself. I'm sure she was being watched, but it was difficult to tell with everyone else front & center. Anna labored so long & hard, with Michael, all I could think of, was how Michelle said a number of times, she was all set for a vaginal delivery & then the baby became transverse & she had to have a C-Section. How would Anna even know if something like that was happening with Michael's birth? She didn't have any midwife or licensed person there, & she hadn't been seeing an obstetrician. So anything could have been going on that she was unaware of. If a woman wants a home birth I see no problem with that, as long she has had proper prenatal care, either with an obstetrician or midwife. We know Anna didn't go to any midwife or ob/gyn with Michael, just MacKenzie. I will always maintain, it was by the grace of God that they were both ok. Even though I knew Anna & baby survived, it was difficult to watch that labor & delivery, without praying that they would call an ambulance. JMO

Virginia said...

I have been reading the nets about the lack of medical attention for the babies and it scares me. I have a friend whose child has PKU. Without that newborn screening and very careful monitoring of everything that child eats she would be severely mentally handicapped. This needs to start within the first couple of weeks of life. What will these people do if something is wrong with their child that could have been avoided with timely medical attention?

Boo's Mom said...

No one said anything was wrong with a woman choosing an unmedicated birth. But I wonder if Pris or Anna would even voice a desire for pain relief if they wanted it? If one of them suddenly really felt like something was wrong, would their spouses listen? Or just hold their face and say "You can do this" At least Jill is aware of her options, even if she delivers at home. I bet Derick wouldn't hesitate to get Jill help if she were showing distress the same way Anna was with Micheals birth.

Anonymous said...

That David is sooooo weird and disturbing - I'm shocked he figured out how to make a baby...

Anonymous said...

I do worry about Anna. There is criticism for her being overwhelmed with three kids. Maybe there is some post partum depression that no one is addressing and that is why she is overwhelmed. I cannot imagine the pressure of staying happy, managing three kids and it being a requirement to want more kids to my own possible demise. Andrea Yates was also quiver full.

GF Baker said...

Did I understand Josh correctly in the clip for tonight's episode? Did he tell Anna he would 'let' her take a pregnancy test?

Anonymous said...

My fiancé so bluntly said of the episode- "who are these people and why are they even on this show. They're even more boring than that other boring family." :-/ I guess my fixation isn't shared. I guess he's right though. I prefer the "courtship" episodes to this...

No more shopping and rvs!

mom in texas said...

Priscilla has the oddest speaking voice and expressions I have ever seen. Watching her on this episode as well as in her youtube videos is almost painful. What's even more painful is watching Anna imitate her sister's odd, whispery, slow speech when she was recalling her "tenting" experience from childhood. Anna is capable of being a pleasant person, I believe, but when she is just herself.

mom in texas said...

That David is sooooo weird and disturbing - I'm shocked he figured out how to make a baby...
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Lol! I am glad someone else mentioned this. He is is the definition of creepy. There is just something not right about this guy. He has this weird, slimy smile plastered on his face at all times, like he could exploded at anytime.

Anonymous said...

I just wonder if the ladies talk baby talk behind closed doors and when no cameras are around just saying I'm so blessed we have one son we both work and we both clean and cook

Sharla said...

For those who don't know, Priscilla was born prematurely and it's possible was left with residual effects. Please consider that when remarking on her speech and presentation.

Anonymous said...

I was pretty shocked that Anna's pregnancy test was negative. People are always saying how great Anna looks. Well I thought she looked at least 4 months pregnant. Even when she was standing beside her sister in the store, I thought she looked very pregnant. Guess I'm the only one.

Ginger said...

Thanks for that clarification Sharla,about Priscilla. I had never heard that before. Appreciate you bringing that to our attention.

Anonymous said...

The show was ok but those voices grated on my nerves. Please speak like adults!

Boo's Mom said...

Some people just have speech ticks. Ie, Anna and the way she over emphasizes the word "and" No judgement though. I do wonder about Josie. She was an extreme preemie and did Michelle and Jimbob ever get her assessed to make sure she doesn't have speech issues?

I was born at 28 wks in 82 and had speech therapy until age 7. (later it was discovered that I had jaw issues that had impacted my speech development)

Aimee said...

I feel for Anna. She may have thought she was just marrying Josh but she really married into the whole clan and their ideas. Since they met at the homeschool conference I assume she was raised under Gothard's teachings and ATI as well. The Duggars are the epitomy of those teachings. Even in the first episodes of their courtship she said something about how she came from a "small family with fewer than 10 children." The organization must have really built up the Duggars because even the Bates (who have JUST AS MANY children) seem to idolize the Duggar Family. I am sure Anna, and in turn Pris, feel the pressure to keep sweet and be like Michelle. That is why they imitate her baby voice, big eyes, and always joyful demeanor. That is a lot of pressure. I much more enjoy the moments when we are just watching them be themselves because you can see that they are really quite normal other than in the forced interviews.

Rudy Tecat said...

I couldn't believe how the talking-head with Joshy and David, when they were wearing (almost) matching black shirts, made them look like a same sex couple. And, what's with Josh even mentioning David's pink shirt? Maybe even Joshy has doubts.

Elspeth said...

Josie was assessed at the best facility in Arkansas. Parts of it were even on their show. The specialists seem to have chosen not to be filmed, but Michelle was filmed talking about the hours that they would be there for all Josie's visits.

Virginia said...

It appears to me that Anna and Michelle have a habit of taking pregnancy tests possibly without even waiting for late period etc. I would guess that Josh probably is a little tired of tests most likely every time they have sex.

hello said...

You are not the only one. I also thought Anna looked pregnant.

Special Ed Lady said...


Those matching shirts of Josh and David creeped me out.

Anonymous said...

SHARLA THANKS BUT I WAS born prematurely as well i and have a big speech issuse but as well so i understand but i dont talk baby talk i just talk slow

Judy said...

I was surprised that Anna wasn't pregnant. And I thought it was very sad that she was wondering if maybe God was preparing her for twins by giving her such a large gap between children. It must be extremely difficult to be in these families. The pressure to conceive or be pregnant constantly must be draining, and then at the same time, you're not supposed to WANT anything, but be completely satisfied with where you are in life. Those two polar opposite feelings must be painful for Anna.

And yes, she looked pregnant when she was shopping with her sister.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous at 11/18/2014 9:30 PM, like you I was also shocked that Anna wasn't pregnant because she certainly looked four or five months pregnant last night. It's no wonder given the poor food choices the couple makes for themselves and their already pudgy children.

How depressing to be a woman in her mid twenties and look so overweight and out of shape people think you're pregnant. Of course, Josh looks even worse, and doctors have confirmed his health is at risk. In fact, Anna once stated she was worried about having to raise half a dozen kids alone if Josh had a heart attack at 32 and died.

Rather than pigging out on pizza, fried chicken and donut burgers while they freak out because they're not popping out babies like clockwork, Josh and Anna need to focus on their own health and the health of the three kids they already have.

nancy

Anonymous said...

David really bothers me. I hope I'm wrong, but I'm worried that he is abusive with Priscilla. His constant weird smile just gives me the creeps. He just seems like he has a very controling personality.

Anonymous said...

It may seem crazy that a couple that thinks "children are a blessing from the Lord" would give birth at home without medical supervision. But the Duggars don't particularly care whether the babies or even fetuses are healthy. Their only goal is to produce as many pregnancies as possible.

When you understand this, everything they do makes a certain kind of "Duggar sense."

Why have prenatal care and hospital births if the outcome of the pregnancy isn't particularly important. Paying for these services simply resources that could be better spent elsewhere, such as on test kits for the next pregnancy and the one after that.

If the fact of the pregnancy is more important than its outcome, you'd expect to see funerals for fetuses. And that's exactly what we do see.



Anonymous said...

Priscilla wears those darned flip-slops just like Anna does. And really "Christian" of David to keep laughing at Josh for reeling in a fish smaller than his, really mature of him. The womenfolk (even little Mackynzie) had to wear long skirts going camping, arrrrgh. I hope Mackynzie is allowed to wear normal clothes, like the menfolk, they look like the rest of us, it's just the females who are restricted. I would love to see the men let their facial hair grow, since they think the women should have long hair, which is biblical, but so are beards for the men. Fair is fair.

Wednesday said...

The most annoying thing of this whole episode was when David and Josh came back from the fishing trip and Priscilla was only able to speak in this sing song voice making each word a mile long: hhhhhhiiiiiii, wwwweeelllccccooooommmmmeee, OOOOOOOH, and then both her and Anna let out this WWWWHHHHHHEEEEEWWWW at the same time. OMG. Please make this show stop. This is painful. Why do I watch? I think I just love to hate on them.

HIIIIIIIIIII, WWEEEEELLLLLLLCCCCOOOOOMMMMEEEE, OOOOOOHHHHH, WHOOOOAAAAAHH (Tandum)

Anonymous said...

Elspeth. Please share with us where & when you heard Michelle talking about all the specialist the assessed Josie. All I ever saw was that DR Arrington, at The Children's Hospital, in Little Rock.I never heard or saw any test they put Josie through. We saw her have the usaual measurements of her head testing her grip, etc. I heard DR Arrington & another local DR say that on the graph they were using Josie was way behind but would probably catch up. I don't think I have missed any episode & have read Michelle's Parentabels so don't know when she or the DR's made any statemenets about how well Josie was doing

Anonymous said...

Amiee I agree with you as far as Anna goes. She meets the prince of the Duggar family at an ATI conference & that's it for her. I truly believe that the Keller family was really on board at first for that marriage. As time has gone on ,I'm not so sure they are pleased with the way Anna was shown giving birth on a toilet & that long labor that was just agony. I don't think most parents would want to see their daughter go through that. When it came time for a new job away from the Duggars homestead, it was the Keller's that encouraged Josh & Anna. I think they all got more than they bargained for, having a daughter that was now a Duggar.

Anonymous said...

Somebody wrote to this blog that Michelle said Josie was having speech therapy. We never found out where that came from. I'm sure it wasn't said on the show as many would remember that. It hasn't been in Michelle's' column either, or Facebook or other Social Media. So does anyone have an answer, or know where that came from?

Anonymous said...

That show was painful to watch, I almost think Josh had a vasectomy and didn't tell Anna, lol, the look on his face was creepy when he talked about the pregnancy tests she takes, just weird. I also watched Jill's wedding again, I really wonder if she was already pregnant when they got married, the way they all talked about it, like they knew it and had to dig in that she would be pregnant immediately.

Wheez said...

Agreed. Like nails on chalkboard

Anonymous said...

why would josh drive a rv downtown chicago take the metra. anyone notice that hardware store is in a pretty ritzz area of the burds of chicago. were is save the difference when you buy used Josh? how much was that fishing boat trip cost? suppose to be camping. why did they just fish in a normal lake. shows the have money to spend now.

Anonymous said...

With all this pressure to conceive children, I wonder how it is that these husbands could perform in the first place. I would think they have a difficult time even enjoying the process. I would think they can't maintain an erection for fear of yet another child, or no child this time. It's a double edged sword.
I'm sorry to hear that Pris was a preemie and may have some residual situations from that. She, however, was a baby born in, what decade? 1980s, 1990s? There was a great deal of treatment, therapies, etc available to the Kellers and it is free from the public school system in Florida. I know, because I lived in Florida and my own child received services from them in speech waaay before kindergarten. It seems that the Kellers did not take advantage of help that was out there for Priscilla and just let her "be" and prayed to God for her instead. We see how that helped this sweet girl. Shame on them if this is true of them.

Anonymous said...

Talk about a scripted show! Another thing, I live in the Chicago suburbs. Where can you park an RV in front of Willis Tower (Sears Tower to us)?

Anonymous said...

I haven't watched too many of the shows and none yet about the extended families. So on this one I was expecting the same kinds of stuff as in the Michelle household, but I have to say, I was pleasantly surprised by one thing. So often those girls were actually holding a child. Up on the hip, in the arms, on the lap, whatever. I don't think I've yet seen Michelle do that. I just expected the rest of them to be that way but for all the baby-talk and bug eyes, they were actually interacting with their children.

Coleen said...

Here is a clip of the Waller baby reveal. At 0:30 and 0:43 you see Jana next to Soundman Jim. Yes it is odd she wasn't mentioned at all during the show!

mom in texas said...

One thing that bothers me is the lack of authentic emotions in this bunch. Anna's reaction to the negative pregnancy test "awww that is sooo saddd" with a smile plastered on her face before the kiss. Why is she not allowed to have actual sadness over the results? I can wholeheartedly understand wanting a positive result and I really believe she did, so why smile when you are sad? It's like being honest with your emotions is wrong.
I also question how often these women take pregnancy test. Do they take them randomly or is there any signs or reason for taking them other than wishing and hoping.

Alison said...

Since the TLC promos were pushing Anna's pregnancy test, I was looking for that pregnant belly. I definitely saw it in the thrift store with Priscilla (in the dark blue striped dress) like some other posters, but also later when they were in Priscilla and David's kitchen, while getting ready to go camping (I think) - Anna had on a form-fitting horizontal striped tee shirt (not her usual blousey style).
I've had my share of post-pregnancy belly, so as much as I don't like Anna (I've never been a fan), I'm not trying to come across as mean, just that she just really looked pregnant to me.

Wow - $175 at the thrift store, and excitement at the $1 rack- I only saw one not-so-big bag of clothes.

Also, at the hardware store, David notices his son is ready to escape the store and doesn't go running after him? Later on, they show Michael trying to hold onto him. TLC editing?

Overall, I fast-forwarded through most of it.

One question - whose idea is it for all these gender reveals - TLCs or is it a fundie belief - JimBob/Michelle, Josh/Anna, Jill/Derick, David/Priscilla - like most people say, it's one of the few surprises you get in life.

Kath said...

No, there are Instagram pics of her in Indiana with them and in the background at the gender reveal.

Beedageeda said...

I am just baffled at Jana being left out of any appearance in either road trip episode. Her sweet face would have done a lot to balance out the CRAZY eyes.

Anonymous said...

With all the Keller's involvement in ATI, Anna meeting Josh at Big Sandy Home School Conference, that tells me that the Keller's were never involved in the public school system where a problem with Priscilla's speech might have been picked up. But that's no different than all the problems we see with the Duggar kids. Some of them definitely have; ADHD problems & need speech therapy as well. They certainly can't sit still at TSOTDRT. Most of the younger kids in the Duggar home have had their daily needs, dressing, feeding etc. provided by the older girls. But it's been up to Michelle to educate those kids & she hasn't done it. If she didn't want to do it, she shouldn't be talking all the time about home schooling. Most people that home school are dedicated to their kids education. That's not true with the Duggars at least not with the younger kids. Maybe they did with the older kids, but then they became celebrities & that was the end of Michelle being at the head of the dining room table, teaching her kids. When is the last time she has been seen doing anything except traveling, accepting mother of the year awards, campaigning for politicians? She was never qualified to teach those kids, & she doesn't even pretend to anymore. So many problems with vision, hearing, speech problems are picked up by public school teachers, but neither the Keller kids, or the Duggars kids received that help. I remember when Michelle took some of the kids to a public school to read to a class, & I think it was Josiah that said, he wouldn't want to go there because there were too many kids for the teacher to manage. They then showed Michelle trying to get a few of her kids to sit down & do their school work. I'd vote for the poor teacher with the 35 students anyday. She/he is the one that picks up these problems. I'm not a teacher & don't have any in my family, but do know how much help they are to the kids they teach.

Missy said...

I thought it was really strange that when Josh & the family were looking down at their RV when they were touring the tower there in Chicago, the only thing parked there, was their RV. Are we supposed to believe they were the only ones with a "large vehicle," parked there? Not one other vehicle was parked there, just the Duggar RV. Even Priscilla & David tried to get them to leave the RV at their home & take their van. These Duggars have gone way too far. JMO

Anonymous said...

The fact that the Kellers didn't have any of their kids in the public school system is moot. Priscilla wasn't an only child. Her parents had other children to "compare her development" with and should have noticed a difference. I would imagine that the Keller kids had a pediatrician, even if from the health department to mention their observations to. That agency would have suggested this route to them. My own child was the second one, the older not yet in the school system and I noticed a delay in speech and was well aware of it. I sought help for him and found it, thanks be to God's direction. No excuse for the Kellers. I hope they indeed did seek help for Pris and maybe this is the best outcome for her. If that were true, I'm glad they sought help for their daughter and appreciate their efforts. Nothing is ever said about this, so speculation is all over the board with her.
BTW, I think Pris is a sweet girl and is a kind, gentle sould. I hope David treats her exceedingly well...ALL the time, not just when she delivers yet another blessing....

Allison said...


One question - whose idea is it for all these gender reveals - TLCs or is it a fundie belief - JimBob/Michelle, Josh/Anna, Jill/Derick, David/Priscilla - like most people say, it's one of the few surprises you get in life.

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I know many people who have gender reveal parties. It's definitely a growing trend. I've seen a couple of friends from high school post similar balloon box gender reveal photos on Facebook. I think it's definitely a TLC thing to make it such a big production though. But just google "gender reveal parties" and you'll see that it's not an uncommon thing or a fundie-only thing.

Rudy Tecat said...

My wife is a speech path/pre-school special ed teacher, and she has kids as young at 2.5 yrs old in her class... and it's free but it is in the public school and there's always the risk of students with purple hair (but so far none in her 20 years on the job).

Anonymous said...

I wonder if Anna is pregnant and Jim Bob decided not to announce it yet, they knew everyone is commenting on her stomach so do a test, have it be negative, that could be the reason for her odd reaction. I bet it will come out later or to the highest paying magazine

Anonymous said...

re: The Kellers having other kids to compare Priscila to. Many families will just say that their kids all develop at different rates. So they don't think it's a problem if one child's speech is very good & another seems to be having some problems. so many parents will say :"Oh they'll catch up to their older sister or brother, each child is different, I'm not worried about it." The Kellers have also said they moved around quite a bit, so that could have an influence on a child's development, if nobody is keeping a close eye on each individual child.

Anonymous said...

Those 2 together looked like a couple to me too. And the way David was looking at Josh when he was taking reminded me of the way Anna gazes at him when he's talking...

capslock said...

momintexas, I agree! I am shocked that even when the Duggars are disappointed or sad, they look/act like the HAPPIEST people in the world with a huge smile plastered on their faces.

The more I watch this show, the more I'm starting to think something is wrong with me having emotions other than consistent happiness at all times.

flowerchild said...

I believe Priscilla is slow, but this doesn't mean she shouldn't be a wife and mother. Plus for all we know she could've had years of therapy and has came a long way. I'm proud that Anna loves her sister and doesn't hide her away. As a mother with a special needs child I hope that he can growup have a family and not be judged.

Anonymous said...

What did Josh and Anna and family get to downtown Chicago at 7am on a Sunday morning? Did anyone notice the absence of traffic at this office building they arrived at? Since when does a major city street have front row center parking available and for a motor home? Was that outing filmed over a few days and they spliced it together? I would have thought that a limo drove them to the building when they had to film inside. I just don't know anymore with this show and TLC; a bunch of misleading liars lately.
Also if Jana didn't want to be filmed, they didn't have to outright lie and say that Anna and Josh were "outnumbered" and by themselves when they weren't. Another picture posted on Duggar facebook inside Pris and David's house at that visit with Jana in the kitchen squarely looking at the camera. It was her for absolutely sure.

Anonymous said...

I appreciate your comments, but I will end this subject by saying that the Kellers needed to keep a close eye on all of their children. It's a shame that parents don't notice the needs of their own children because they are busy doing something else? I would think that the Lord would want parents to be aware of the needs of their own children before others, ie inmates, sinners, food banks, etc..Your own home and children come first.
I enjoy and appreciate all of your comments here posters.

Anonymous said...

David's personality gives me the creeps...not only how he acts around his wife but the way he acts around Josh as well. Creeeepy Factor!

Anonymous said...

Re; Anonymous 11/20 @3:2pm
I agree with your comments. We can certainly tell that Michelle & Jim Bob are not keeping a close eye on their kids. Everything from safety issues in that house to various attention deficit disorders with their kids.

Anonymous said...

If Anna is at home with 3 kids everyday while Josh is at "work," doesn't that mean that she outnumbered every day? Even if Josh is home, if she does her math, that's 3 kids & two parents all the time. So they have been outnumbered ever since Marcus was born. Who writes these scripts?

Special Ed Lady said...

I have wondered if Mr. Keller and Mr. Waller did not get together and arrange to have Pricilla and David marry.

Anonymous said...

I think that Anna and Josh revel in the cameras when it comes to letting the public know what is going on in their personal lives. If you noticed that every announcement and gender reveal was done for the cameras. Unless it is taped for later....Jill and Derrick let everyone know just through media of both the pregnancy and the gender. I don't think they will be playing the TV game...but I could be wrong.

Duggar watcher said...

Remember the episode when one of the little girls...can't remember which one ...got her head stuck in the bannister onr he staircase? Yikes!

Anonymous said...

David Waller has a picture of Jana, Anna and Priscilla on his website....from the gender reveal party time frame.

Anonymous said...

Per "Anonymous Allison said...

One question - whose idea is it for all these gender reveals - TLCs or is it a fundie belief - "

I did a little online research and it appears to be a 'new' tradition circa 2000. It's more common among the millennial generation who tend to overshare thnks to social media.
I only became aware of gender reveal parties recently, like the Southern tradition 'Sip n' See'. (and I'm many generations Southern!) I certainly don't remember anyone having a gender reveal in the 1980s or 90s, only baby showers.

Anonymous said...

Anyone else notice the scene in the thrift shop when Pris and Anna were at the cashier? Pris had a credit card in her left hand and a pen and paper receipt in her right as she was about to sign for her purchase. I thought credit cards were a no-no.

Anonymous said...

I haven't watched the show yet-Did they say that that was the first time Anna and Josh visited Pricilla and David in Chicago. I do read David's blog and David and Pricilla do visit both sides of the family during their trips.
When Anna had her shower for Kenzyie two of her sisters came and her mother came. When Pricilla had first baby I thought there would be a show where Anna went to Chicago to give her a baby
shower. Pricilla was given a shower after she had Paul and David's mother was there. Do not know if Pricilla's family gave her a shower. So now this gender revealing party-David posted that all his siblings were there and his parents. So looks like Anna and family were the only ones there from the Keller side. Not everone has the money and time off to travel when ever they want to like Josh and Anna do. Would have been nice of Josh and Anna to offer to pay for Mr. and Mrs. Keller to fly out to the party.

Anonymous said...

"Gender" reveals (completely misnamed) are just another LOOK AT MMMMMEEEEEEEEE opportunity.

Anonymous said...

Good thinking there, anonymous, about Anna being outnumbered by 3 kids EVERY DAY. When Josh is at work, it's still 3 to 1; when he's home it's still only 3 to 2..I think Jana hasn't been seen at the Duggar compound because maybe she was lent out as an au pair/ nanny/ housekeeper for Anna while Josh is at work..then it's even, 3 to 3...hmmmm?
Priscilla could have had a debit card in her hand and not a credit card because in some lower priced stores, they don't do debit per se, a debit card goes through like a "credit card" that the charge amount is delayed for 24 hours or more...it happened to me in one of those places...

Anonymous said...

Maybe not a credit card but a debit card or credit gift card.

Allison said...


"Gender" reveals (completely misnamed) are just another LOOK AT MMMMMEEEEEEEEE opportunity.

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How is it completely misnamed? You're revealing the gender to people....

Rosalie said...

"why would josh drive a rv downtown chicago" - 11/19/2014 3:15 PM.

Because he is a Duggar, Duggars have had millions of people following them for years (don't tell me that doesn't go to your head), Duggars are special and most likely do what they want. They are never on time; even royals show up on time, but not the Duggars. Michelle and JimBob couldn't arrive on time to meet Anna's parents even though they didn't have to fuss with their youngest children. Duggars don't seem to care and will do what they want, they are in their own world and non-Duggars are a far second.

Driving that huge motor home in a strange city was dumb; but of course they got parking right out front (and I do not believe Anna's reason, I'll bet they got special permission). And I had just about enough of Anna saying their visit will "bring us together".

Anonymous said...

Anna has to be pregnant! The scene outside where Josh kisses Anna, he rubs her belly. That would explain why she smiled after her negative pregnancy test, pretending for the cameras so that we can find out about the pregnancy next season??

Anonymous said...

I'm confused about the gender reveal. How was it a surprise to David & Priscilla what they were having?? If even they didn't know, who filled the box with the balloons?

Jessica said...

Re the credit card, some stores ring up all cards as credit, you sign instead of entering a pin. She could have used a debit card.

Anonymous said...

It's a sex reveal. In utero a child's gender is unknown. Their sex, however, is usually able to be determined.

From wiki: "The distinction between sex and gender differentiates sex, the biological makeup of an individual's reproductive anatomy or secondary sex characteristics, from gender, social roles based on the sex of the person (culturally learned) or personal identification of one's own gender based on an internal awareness (gender identity).[1][2] Gender is sometimes referred to as the sex of the brain. In some circumstances, an individual's sex and gender do not align, and the result is sometimes a transgender person.[1]"

CatLady said...

On gender-reveal parties: yes, the exact terminology of gender vs. sex may be misleading, but the phrase probably just sounds better than "pregnancy sex party."

Anonymous said...

Amazing that for every baby, they were able to tell the sex, I have 3 boys and had many sonogram, the tech was never able to tell in all 3, they were hiding, lol

Grammy said...

RE Coleen's comment that it seems odd that they didn't mention Jana in that episode. It's more than odd, it was an outright lie on Anna's part, unless Jana joined then when they arrived at the Waller home. I still think she was along to help them with the kids on the trip where they were "outnumbered." What are they going to do when there are no more older Duggar girls to help them raise these Duggars as they raised their mom's kids?

Rudy Tecat said...

Has anyone seen any photos of Jana with Joshy and family at any other point in the trip (other than at the gender reveal)? Maybe she was at Gothard HQ and spent the day with the Wallers.

Katie's Mom said...

RE; Duggar Watcher's comment about one of the children getting their head stuck in the banister. Yes I remember, it was dear little Jordyn. Amazing that anyone even noticed that. I do remember Michelle's very concerned comment. She shrugged her shoulders & said I guess if her head was able to go through it will also come out! What a mom.

Virginia said...

Re Comments about Anna lying about being outnumbered. I really don't think she did. Possibly Jana joined them at some point but I don't think she was there when the comment was made. I really hope Jana gets a great guy and has an opportunity to shine for herself soon.

Anonymous said...

Not to mention that even if it's a credit card, no debt is a duggar family rule.

Patsy said...

There is no doubt in my mind that TLC (via card or paper!) financed the baby clothes shopping @ the Thrift Store. Anna was absolutely "in charge of" the spending spree IMO to make sure her sis got the full benefit off TLC. This is how the Duggars operate (again IMO & evidence of past behavior). They are bringing more & more family members into the "TLC free ride" so others can benefit from the easy $$$ too. David & Pris were most definitely paid for their TV participation along with the "beanies" they received to do the activities in the episodes. No doubt whatsoever about it!

Anonymous said...

We don't know for sure Anna was lying about the trip. The only pics we see of Jana are at the Waller:s and not on the RV.
She could have met them there. We don't have the whole story .

Anonymous said...

There were pictures of Jana at the fair with them. I believe there may have been other pictures posted during the trip that showed Jana. I don't have time to go looking for them right now.

Anonymous said...

Someone asked about Josie getting therapy. I've answered this before. A person from another board went to the yard sale and asked Michelle directly. She reported what Michelle told her.

Anonymous said...

I hope Josh and Anna are taking Mackynzie & Michael to speech therapy. Subtitles shouldn't be needed for a child who is nearly 5 :(. They seem like lovely children, I just think they would benefit from attending preschool and school.

Anonymous said...

I think Michelle stated that Josie is perfect in every way and didn't require any therapy...Now we understand she's receiving speech therapy? I highly doubt that it is coming from a real qualified professional therapist. It's more likely some "friend" who dabbles in it and comes to THEIR house to do it. They are a myriad of contradiction....

Allison said...

You know, something just occurred to me... what if Jana didn't want to be filmed on the trip? She's always been the more camera shy of all the sisters. Just a theory...

Anonymous said...

I agree that Mackynzie and Michael need speech therapy and sooner rather than later...also,
quite a few of the younger Duggar children are in need of this therapy also. You can hardly understand them and they clearly have difficulties with many letter sounds when they routinely speak...but I don't think their parents give a damn.

Anonymous said...

Someone quipped that maybe Josh had a secret vasectomy, it's almost impossible for a guy under 35 to get one in the US and doubly impossible Josh to get one without written permission from his wife.

Unless things changed from when I was 35, 12 years ago.

Boo's Mom said...

I know many men who have been snipped who are under 35 and never had to include their spouse in that choice. Maybe it depends where you live. I'm in CA and its easier for a man to get snipped than it is for a woman to get a Tubal Ligation.

mom in texas said...

We don't know for sure Anna was lying about the trip. The only pics we see of Jana are at the Waller:s and not on the RV.
She could have met them there. We don't have the whole story.
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True we don't know but what we do know is that the likely hood of Jana meeting them in Chicago is slim because there were no other unseen or seen Duggars mentioned on this trip. Meaning Jana could not have traveled alone to Chicago. We all know Jana is not allowed to go anywhere with an accountability sibling. Which means,IMO, the theory of Jana not being shown on the show and Anna lying is true. Now, why is the question.

puddin' said...

I wish they would give Jana some air time so she could build up a bank account and run away. Of course she probably wouldn't ...how long will she have to SERVE people...she needs a life outside of caring for siblings and siblings kids. David Waller gives me the creeps. *FREE JANA*

Sikamikanico said...

"I couldn't believe how the talking-head with Joshy and David, when they were wearing (almost) matching black shirts, made them look like a same sex couple. And, what's with Josh even mentioning David's pink shirt? Maybe even Joshy has doubts."

The barely concealed homoerotic tension between those two!

And I really hope those kids are getting help with their speech. Mackynzie sounds like a two year old, not nearly five. I suppose if they rarely hear clearly articulated adult speech they can't replicate it.

Dar said...

Thank you Sharla for the information about Pricilla. She does seem like a sweet girl. She is quite child-like. I sincerely hope she is treated well by David and I also really hope she does not have a house full of little children to care for. I think it would be a challenge for her. JMO. I also think Waller is a little weird. Is that watch "real"? it looks quite expensive.

Anonymous said...

Excuse me if someone has already posted this thought, but re: Jana and the Chicago trip, something occurred to me. I find it possible that Jana would not want a public, televised courtship. I have no way to know whether or not she is seeing someone. I just think it possible that she could have been introduced to someone Josh works with. This could help explain her lengthy and/or frequent Maryland suburbs visits, as well as her camera avoidance. This is only my opinion, and not based on any facts.

Judy said...

ALL of the kids, even the grown ones, are child-like. How else can you be when you have literally never been alone in any situation -- to the grocery store, while training for a job, when traveling -- and then suddenly, in one day, you're married and expected to procreate immediately, with someone you barely know? And then within a year, you're lucky if you're already 22 or 23, and you have a newborn baby, and now you're suddenly an adult?

Anonymous said...


Just wanted to add something to my previous post (see bottom of this post)...

I had the misfortune of watching Josh's FRC "Happy Thanks Giving" video. To spare you from having to watch the entire video, use this link http://youtu.be/fEfsDoq6SqY?t=2m30s and listen to Michael's speech. Josh tells the children the height of the Washington Monument and have a listen to Michael's response. For a child who is 3 years & 5 months old, I find it difficult to even understand him.

I'm an early childhood teacher, and it isn't uncommon for me to able to interpret what a young toddler is saying and understand it, even when their parents cannot understand them. If I was Michael's teacher, then I would definitely be recommending that he be seen by a speech therapist. I really hope that the children are getting help with their speech and the Duggars are just keeping it private.


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Anonymous said...
I hope Josh and Anna are taking Mackynzie & Michael to speech therapy. Subtitles shouldn't be needed for a child who is nearly 5 :(. They seem like lovely children, I just think they would benefit from attending preschool and school.

11/23/2014 3:12 AM

Anonymous said...

I have been quite annoyed with TLC these last few weeks as they have been airing during prime time, numerous reruns of the same episodes, like "reveal, travel' episodes that we saw last week. Why didn't they fill in the vacated Honey Boo Boo slots with airing the episodes relating to Jessa's wedding and Jill's pregnancy and bring it up to date? So annoyed and bored with Amy's "career". She isn't that talented nor ready for Nashville, sorry. She can carry a tune nicely, but so can many good choir people. Grow up, honey, act and dress like a serious 28 year old woman. Get a real job and apartment. or get training to actually work. Any grown up 30 year old man, won't look at you as you are too far behind HIM, emotionally.

Marites H. said...

ALL of the kids, even the grown ones, are child-like. How else can you be when you have literally never been alone in any situation -- to the grocery store, while training for a job, when traveling -- and then suddenly, in one day, you're married and expected to procreate immediately, with someone you barely know? And then within a year, you're lucky if you're already 22 or 23, and you have a newborn baby, and now you're suddenly an adult?
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These are some major adjustments to fling on someone all at once. I came from a pretty sheltered home (not quite as strict as Duggarville) but it was a definite adjustment to having my own home and husband to look after. Now that these 2 Duggar girls (I won't call them women) are married, they don't have their sisters or Grandma to fall back on if they don't feel like doing housework. Their mom certainly won't condescend to such menial work. Everything is now their personal responsibility. Being alone in a room with a man for the first time is yet another huge transition. How can a couple establish a deep committed relationship (even a friendship) without sharing their most private thoughts & aspirations with each other.

Kelly V said...

I saw some chatter on the internet about the Duggars in talks with the Tebows to match upTim with Jana. No clue if this has any basis in reality, but that would bring a whole new level of crazy!

Anonymous said...

Re: Mom in Texas comments. I agree that Jana could have arrived at the Waller home by herself, but also feel it's unlikely as those girls never travel alone. A number of people have mentioned that Jana was seen at the Indiana State Fair with Josh & Anna. I believe that was before they arrived in Chicago for the big "gender reveal." I think Anna has had quite a bit of help from various older Duggar girls, ever since they moved to DC. Now I don't see that happening as much, as Michelle doesn't have as many assistant moms left in her home. Can't really expect her to care for all those kids just because she gave birth too them. I think poor Joy along with long suffering Jana will be the real caretakers in Michelle's home.

Allison said...

I agree that Jana could have arrived at the Waller home by herself, but also feel it's unlikely as those girls never travel alone.

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I thought this too, but then how did Jana get to DC? Were the Duggars there this summer and dropped her off? And how did she get back to AR if she was on her own in DC? At some point she would have had to travel alone, unless there was a non-duggan escort with her.

Anonymous said...

I would love Tim Tebow to take Jana away. Come on, Tebow she's a beautiful, sweet young lady. Rescue her!

LAMcp said...

there have several pictures and sitings of Jana from earlier in the trip. She was seen at a gift shop with them early on the trip, as well as at the fair, and the Chicken restaurant. Now I suppose it is possible that Jana was somewhere in Indiana or Ohio at some sort of JTTH or ATI conference, and met up with Josh and Anna for the remainder of the trip, but it seems unlikely. It is also possible that she did not ride in the RV. If there is at least one female crew member, she could have been riding with them. Maybe she just hitched a ride to Chicago as Priscilla is a good friend.

I love how we all assume that Jana is a sweet and pleasant woman, when in fact she is shown so little on the show, and rarely speaks, that we really don't know much about her personality.

Even in her talking heads she speaks far less than whatever sister she is sharing the time with.

I remember when Joy was trying to teach the little ones a song and they were acting up. She threatened to go get Jana and the kids started behaving after that. So maybe in private, Jana is a strict disciplinarian to the kids and maybe she is as sweet as we all seem to think.

Mary said...

Anna had a mic carrage before Marcus was born yet all she thinks of is having anothe baby. She can barly handle the three she has. Josh thw king walks in and every thing is ready for him to sit down for dinner. From what I have seen he does nothing in the house to help her. It really bothers me that she does all the work. She has drunk the kool-aid from Duggar family. Josh is like his father. I have never seen JIMBOOB do a ounce of work Just watch the episode when the bates family came to help them after a storm. JimBOOP stood around while the Bates family sawed down all the trees. Amy will be up tp six kids within a few years.

Mary said...

If Jana did join them who did she go with and whhat happened to her watcher.

Mary said...

Just watched David and Pricwlla's wedding day. wow how beautiful.. compained to that horrible duggar wedding and those duggar dresses I just don't know what to say.. Glad JimBoop os keeping all the money for helpself. He could not give hia daughter a weddining like taat.. I hope I never see those horrible dresses again

Anonymous said...

That completely false. Any man over 18 can get a vasectomy, and furthermore they are reversible.

Anonymous said...

Yeah. Those dresses looked like Daisy Dukes went fundy!!

Delfina said...

If you have this episode saved on DVR, I'd encourage you to go back and watch all of minute 36. Anna will be talking while in the RV. If you look carefully outside the RV window, you'll see Jana (wearing a blue skirt) walking out of D&P's house.

Delfina said...

Hahaha, I was seriously starting to be believe I was the only person who noticed Anna's over emphasis when she says the word "and". Jill does it too and it drives my mad!

Delfina said...

I like how you mentioned that both Jim and Anna should focus on their health. When Josh ran than 5k, Anna did nothing but stand on the sidelines being a talking head about her hubby doing proactive stuff to improve his health and looking quite round herself. She wasn't even preggers either. ::le sigh::

Delfina said...

Sex vs Gender.

Sex is anatomical, the male/female parts you are born with.

Gender is social. Ex: Though Mary was born a girl, she prefers to identify with more masculine traits. Androgyny would also fall under gender.

Ginger said...

I looked at the video mentioned by Delfina on 11/30 @1:01pm. I believe she is absolutely correct. While Anna is in the RV talking, Pricilla is coming out of her house & just ahead of her, in fact holding the door for her, as well as carrying what appears to be bedding, i.e. pillows & blankets, in the blue skirt is :Jana. I had to watch it on my large screen tv to see the picture. Also I must mention, & I know I may well be the only one that belives this, but I'm sure looking at Anna, she is definitely pregnant. I swear a couple of times I thought at first I was looking at Priscilla's pregnant belly, but it is indeed Anna. Also the on & off rubbing of her stomach tells us something. Anna had lost weight & didn't have that obvious "baby bump," for some time after Marcus. I didn't think she kept the post baby weight on after his birth. I think they would not announce another pregnancy at this time, as it is "Princess Jill's" time to shine in that department. They waited a long time to announce on the show that Anna was pregnant with Marcus, as many other important things were happening in Duggarville at that time. When the show returned they made the announcement quickly & moved on. Anyone else agree with this? I know it's JMO, but I'd put money on the fact that Anna is very pregnant. So sorry didn't mean to offend, I meant Anna is expecting!

Dar said...

I think Anna is pregnant as well.

Anonymous said...

I think Jana met them in Chicago at the party

Anonymous said...

RE; Comments by Mary.
Why would anyone think that Amy would be up to 6 kids in within a few yrs? Amy is into her "career in Nashville,"& no serious boyfriend in the picture at this time. Are you sure you didn't mean Jill?

Anonymous said...

Anna had a miscarriage between MacKenzie & Michael. She was talking about it when she went with her dad to see the women in the prison ministry. I know it was before she had Michael. Josh & Anna were in Florida for the holidays & only had Mac at that time. Anna was telling the women about what a difficult time she had just endured with a miscarriage. Up until that time the miscarriage had not been mentioned

Anonymous said...

"I think Jana met them in Chicago at the party"

How do you explain away the pictures of her with Josh and Anna at the fair then?

Anonymous said...

Anna experienced a positive home test result and a few days later she had a heavier period. Given the amount of times these girls "test" within one month,she was only a few days along; and I believe it was something similar to Erin Paine; an empty sac expulsion. This happens to many women and they don't even know it because our monthly flow varies from light to heavy at times and it could be something like that occurred. These people have a tendency to over dramatize pregnancy etc...It's not that I don't feel for Anna at all, but I believe without seeing a doctor in the first place, she made a mountain out of a mole hill. In keeping with their belief system, she had to believe that it was God's will that "no child" result. So, she should have been ok with that. but they are a myriad of contradictions as usual.

Confused in Germany said...

Re: Priscillas possible speech problems (I didn't know that).
Do you think, that Anna is mocking her sister? They don't seem to be as close, as they are supposed to be. I remember that in a clip, when they talked about their childhood in a big family, their parents told them, that they are each others best friend and that they didn't understand, why that had to be. Why they couldn't find their own best friend. So: they were not friends of their own choice. Which is, why I wonder, whether Anna might be mocking her older sister.
Or, to give it a more positive idea: Anna is just copying her Mother in Law and Me-chelle is able to speak in an average voice.

Somehow I do hope, that Anna is just copying her MIL, not mocking her sister. Apart from not being very christian, I find it very hard on Priscilla, not only would she have the weird husband, she also would have a rather cruel sister.

Anonymous said...

RE: anonymous 12/1 @7:50 There were also pictures of Jana at the Amish farm stand which was supposed to be one of their first stops after they left their own home for the trip to Chicago.

OkieGirl said...

Right!! OMG, he is very very creepy and he doesn't like any confrontation what-so-ever!! I posted a comment on his Twitter once and it was delete right way! He strikes me as a creepy, gay man who hasn't come to terms of his homosexuality, which is sad because he will never truly be happy and feel complete in his life. And God forbid that he might take it out on his wife and sadly his kids.