Free Discussion, December, 2014

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Special Ed Lady said...

It was in a tabloid that Jessa is expecting. Not sure a tabloid is just a tabloid.

Anonymous said...

It's quite possible. She's been married, what now, 32 days? That's a whole cycle for her. I'm sure they've been partaking every available day...he's 19, after all...so, she should be "expecting" by now. No miracle, IMO, just the results of their own actions...which anyone would get, even sinners.

Anonymous said...

I believe with all my heart that Jessa is already pregnant.

zebracrossing said...

I noticed while watching Josh and Anna's Thanksgiving video that Marcus was forward facing in his carseat. While I am sure it is a pain, children under two are suppose to be rear-facing. There are also guidelines for height and weight even if the child is over two. I know the Duggars aren't into safety...but it would be tragic if something happened to that baby in all the D.C. traffic. Hope someone is monitoring this from the show.

http://www.parenting.com/article/car-seats-safety

Marites H. said...

I glanced at the People magazine cover while standing in line @ the grocery store. Yup, the new bride has a bun in the oven already!! One small photo. She doesn't get the whole cover. Sad. I was really hoping they'd grow up a little but this race to conceive is a huge competition for attention. As someone who recently miscarried my first baby very early, I cringe at these quick "we're expecting" announcements. Maybe the 3 Duggar moms-to-be will snap and say "You can't do this!!" to JB & Michelle, the same way JB & Michelle did to Jessa & Ben, humping on the mini golf course.

Anonymous said...

Does anyone else think it odd that two younger brothers would want to have sleepovers at their older married SISTER'S house especially being a newlywed? It shows me that these two little guys are attached to Jill, as she is their mother, not Michelle. Doesn't this make Jim Bob or Michelle think about what they have done all these years dis-attaching themselves to their own children? They obviously love their sister-buddies instead of their own parents..shocking.

Quiana said...

Has anyone seen this? Looks like the Tim/Jana plans are a-go! Not sure how I feell about that...

http://okmagazine.com/photos/jana-duggar-tim-tebow-dating-19-kids-and-counting-set-up-jim-bob-courting/photo/1001164550/

Anonymous said...

Tim and Jana would be very good for ratings.

Jennifer said...

Depends on the state

Jennifer said...

What is this about jill and Derrick unfollowing jessa and ben on twitter? ??
But keeps following all the duggars that's on twitter......weird huh....jessa and ben continue. To follow jill and derrick...
Whats going on there?? They say they are fighting

Anonymous said...

Jill didn't unfollow Jessa. She had never followed Jessa. The alleged reporters these days seem to have no honor or sense.

Beth Anne said...

Re: The alleged reporters these days seem to have no honor or sense.

Agree! But this is what happens when you sell your story to the highest bidder (ahem, JimBob) and decide you are famous and important enough to contract with the likes of People magazine to get "exclusives" on a wedding story, baby announcement, or photos. The floodgates have opened, and that is unfortunate, because the Duggar children had not control over their parents' decisions to make their family so public. Of course, I think some of them love it (Josh and Jill), but it's still unfortunate.

Anonymous said...

I hope this is true about Jana & Tim. Maybe she will get married & move far far away. Then once she is in her own home, I hope for at least for a month straight, she gets some very much deserved rest, such as sleeping late, not fixing hair or putting makeup on, staying in comfy clothes, laying around watching tv, eating junk food that she doesn't have to share etc. all the things that most of us are able to enjoy pretty frequently. I would go nuts if I wasn't ever able to do this. Of course I don't have children yet. But, neither does she yet she still has to be a parent. I feel the sorriest for her for some reason. She's so quiet & sweet.

Judy said...

I've seen no reports that Jessa is definitely pregnant. If she is, who has an actual article saying she is?

Dar said...

"The alleged reporters seem to have no honour or no sense. That is what happens when you sell your soul to the "rag" magazines and JimBob has certainly sold out. The TV was one thing, but the pictures and wedding coverage opened up a lot of doors. They are "fair game" now. No more "Ministry", just celebrities, like all reality TV participants. Everything done for the almighty dollar.

Leigh Ann said...

I think Anna kept McKenzie rear-facing for longer. The Duggar parents (JB and M) have never been much on car safety (or any other type of safety). I think they just did what they did for Josh and never kept up with current recommendations. I remember watching them load up for a trip and I know they had expired seats and kids in the wrong type of seats for their age. Of all the kids born on TV I think they all used hand-me-downs except for Josie's infant seat. She had a new seat and I bet the hospital recommended something for smaller babies. Or maybe checked the seat they brought in and told them to buy a new one. Hospitals don't usually say much except to make sure you have one (for liability reasons) but with a preemie they might have more input. Back when they had lots of little kids in seats I always wanted to see an episode with a carseat tech and I know several techs who would have gladly volunteered. After Josie outgrew the infant seat she probably ended up in whatever was in the storage shed.

MORGANW323 said...

I honestly think the Jana/Tim Tebow thing is just a big rumor. Even though Tim is a good Christian boy I don't think he is conservative enough for the Duggars. I am pretty sure he has partaken in an alcoholic beverage or two in his time and I highly doubt he has kept himself "pure" enough for Duggar standards. A stud like him has at the very least kissed a girl and I am sure gone a lot further. Not to mention all the pics of him SHIRTLESS at the beach. No wholesome wear for this boy. If the union actually happens and the Duggars bless it, I wonder how they will tiptoe around these issues? Will he have to "re-dedicate" himself to the church and his values? Though I guess JB and M kissed before their big day and they turned out ok? Who knows.... All I can say is if she becomes his wife, Jana is in for a culture shock. Though I don't think she is happy with her current situation, I can't imagine how she would do as a "celeb wife" with all the visibility that comes with it and the exposure to that culture. Either way, I hope she finds someone who will love and respect her and finds him SOON!

Sharla said...

Josie would have had to pass a carseat test to be released from the hospital and the hospital would have required a seat that met current requirements.

Rosie Banks said...

Tim is too worldly surely? They change whats 'ok' all the time so who knows.

got2bdrc said...

I agree that Jana needs to get out of the Duggar House of Horrors--but only with someone SHE has chosen, not some guy Jim Bob chose on her behalf--even if is a professional football player.

Of all the Duggar girls Jana and Joy Anna seem to me to be the most authentic. Jill and Jessa seem to be "onstage" all the time, and for me, the jury's still out on Jinger (but I do hope she packs a bag and heads for the Big Apple!).

It's totally unreasonable that Jim Bob and Michelle force those girls to serve as surrogate mothers and nannies to the younger children. I'm the oldest of four, with 17 years between myself and my youngest sib. My mother made me nursemaid the youngest baby. I left home the day I turned 18, and I still resent my mother for depriving me of what should have been my best year of teenage freedom with friends, proms, football games, and all the other stuff kids do in their last year of high school.

Anonymous said...

A Tim and Jana marriage would unite two families at the very pinnacle of the fundie foodchain. Old Jim Bob doesn't give a darn whether Tim Tebow has ever kissed a girl or bared his chest at the beach. As long Tim is willing to be on the show and father twenty little Tebowettes, he's a shoe in. With Timbow on board, 19 Kids could be on the air until the middle of the century. And Old Jim Bob knows this.

Anonymous said...

I remember that Josie needed a certain car seat, and she also needed to pass some type of test regarding her breathing, while she was strapped in the car seat. The first day, when she was supposed to be released from the hospital, she did not pass the test & was not released from the hospital. They tried again the next day, also using a small pillow or rolled up blanket to keep her head up, so she could breath well. She passed the second car seat test and was then released. Of course, all of that was due to the hospitals requirements for discharge. If she had just gone home without anyone checking I don't know what type of car seat she would have had.

Anonymous said...

What I find so ironic is how Jim Bob and Michelle sheltered their children so much from the "world" that now after exposing their children to the world through their show they are all over the internet. They are any the tabloids and websites spreading rumors of Jill and Jessa feuding and Jessa being pregnant, which could be true, but still spreading all over the internet. Way to go Jim Bob, and Michelle you sure do deserve that mother of the year award. I wonder when they will realize they have sold their children to the devil, reality television.

Anonymous said...

reg Dar's comments: I've noticed how the Duggars are now part of the critique of pop culture. E! news had a segment on the Jill/Jessa feud. But this is what you get when you open your personal life to reality tv.

Elaina S. said...

A Tim & Jana courtship is pretty unlikely. Yes, he does seem like a good Christian man from a good missionary family but with that lengthy list of past girlfriends, he might have accidentally given away a few parts of his heart and his first kiss.

Whoever he is, I hope the man who marries Jana Duggar takes her far, far away from Duggarville Prison and treats her like a queen. She deserves a break and a real life of her own.

Anonymous said...

If Tim Tebow can deliver what JIM BOB wants and needs, money wise and good publicity ensuring many more seasons of 19K, I don't think for one moment that he would be bothered by Tim's "nike" past experiences. They will say some baloney about it's where you are not in life; not what you have done in the past. Then they will site their own "sinful" dating experience...wait and see. It's all about what's in TT's wallet and publicity portfolio for the show.

Anonymous said...

I was thinking that maybe Mary Duggar actually likes doing laundry. Believe it or not, I actually enjoy it, and I might enjoy it even more if I had 4 washers and dryers! Of course, I don't do laundry for 20 people, only 14.

Anonymous said...

People can quit worrying about the crazy Tim Tebow/Jana rumors. His PR people came out and denied that they'd ever even met.

Dar said...

Tim Tebow's people came out and said he and Jessa had not even met. Who knows? It wouldn't be the first time something was planted in a tabloid and the people involved did get in touch. Would JimBob be capable of something like this? You Betcha!

Anonymous said...

We still don't know if derickdillard gave away his first kiss before meeting Jill. They always billed it as "their first kiss", meaning together, specified that this is Jill's first kiss, EVER, but not Derick's. He should respond to the question.

Anonymous said...

Why? He never claimed it was, and it's none of our business!

Anonymous said...

"Why? He never claimed it was, and it's none of our business!"

Sure it is! It's ALL our business! From the intricacies Michelle's cycles to the gory details of Jimbob's desires, to the sex lives of the daughters, everything in that family(unfortunately) is the public's business. Yeah, way creepy, but I'm fully admitting to being yet another rubbernecker on the reality TV highway....

Dar said...

The Duggars have made their whole lives "our" business and the whole world's business. The shame is that these "blessings" had no say in the decision. They have been shown having wisdom teeth pulled. We have seen soiled diapers on one of the little ones, leaking feces. Little Josie's birth and survival in the NICU had cameras imposed. Michelle's "cycle" used to be on the fridge and the girls kept track of it. We were witness to JimBob dry-humping Michelle on the Miniature golf course, and on and on. They can't take any of that back. It is all "out there" and will stay "out there", if you will. It was all in aid of their "encouraging" everyone to accept their lifestyle. Some of their children do not know what life is like without cameras. Good job, JimBob and Mother of the Year. Now, you are also selling out to the celebrity magazines. Do you encourage everyone to pursue that lifestyle as well? This show is a vehicle for Michelle and JimBob to attain the attention they both require. Their children are just accessories. JMHO

Anonymous said...

I wonder how Jim Bob feels about the guy who has 5 wives. Does he object because the man gave away a piece of his heart to 5 women or does he approve because the man has so many children?

Sharla said...

Moderating has been a bit dreary today. We've attracted a troll. My apologies if I happen to let any of those comments through.

Also, some of the writers are sarcastic. It's allowed so newbies or trolls should not take everything literally or seriously.

Comments that say this will never be published because of xyz are guaranteeing that they will be deleted on sight.

Anonymous said...

My opinion about comments regarding the Duggar family in all areas is this: It was this family's choice to put themselves on TV and GET PAID for it. So, they also open themselves up to compliments and criticisms, and all types of questions. They then have a responsibility to address these questions, criticisms and seemingly contradictions regarding their words vs their actions. When you're paid, you have to pony up in return. Plain and simple, IMO.
Yes, we would like to know about Derick's "romantic past", if there was one and if this was HIS first kiss EVER too.. that's what HE signed up for in appearing on the show, not is marrying Jill, but becoming part of "the cast".

Anonymous said...

Tim Tebow is far too strong, mentally, physically, and spiritually for JB. While I wish that Jana would meet and court someone who would take her far away from Duggarville, JB would never allow it because of his need to control his daughters.

Virginia said...

I have enjoyed watching this show over the years but it has changed and that is sad. Now they do push their agenda so much and feel they are better than others because of the way they live. I also feel for the kids. Many times I have seen several in one bed or sleeping on the floor. I remember a hotel scene where Michael got sick and there were kids sleeping on the bed and chairs and floor. I bet JB and M had a bed.

Anonymous said...

Dar, I agree with your post about the Duggars constantly being in the media, it's too much. Selling photos to the media can bring in money but once you've invited the paparazzi into your lives, there's no going back. The paparazzi can be such vultures and will not leave you alone. I'm afraid the Duggars will be begging the paparazzi to leave them alone if it's not occurring already.

Anonymous said...

I remember seeing a few times the kids slept in their clothes and there were no bottom sheets on the beds. The stuff they make those kids do for tv is disgusting, anyone remember the "surprise" Jim Bob had for his girls? They all got to go donate blood! I don't think they have a say in anything and I agree, Jim Bob and Michelle have put so much out there, they are doing it for $$, the buy used, save the difference and monitoring the use of the internet is long gone. I'm waiting for Michelle to completely crack up and run away...

Jill L said...

Well Tim has no NFL gig so maybe he can work for JB with Ben.

Anonymous said...

I totally disagree that we are entitled to know a thing about Derick's romantic past. Just because he married a Duggar girl, doesn't mean we are obligated to know what he did prior to courting her. Now, if he cheated on Jill, that would be a different story!

Anonymous said...

Does anyone know how to access season 7 from Australia? The youtube episodes won't work due to being taken down for copyright issues and the TLC ones won't work either. I've looked everywhere! Many thanks!

Rosie Banks said...

Yes he wouldnt have much control over TT.

Anonymous said...

I don't think that anybody wants to know specifics about derickdillard's past love life. We mainly are interested in if this is HIS first kiss EVER too. That's not too intrusive. We know that about Anna and Ben already and it's not intrusive at that stage of the game. This family makes headlines themselves that it IS their childrens' first kisses, though, Josh, Jill and Jessa. What's to hide?

Reality TV Junkie said...

Jill is wearing a well above knee length skirt in this pic. Interesting.

http://instagram.com/p/v7AY1RLszN/?modal=true

Allison said...

Jill is wearing a well above knee length skirt in this pic. Interesting.

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I don't know if I'd say it's "well above" the knee. It's just above the knee. The only thing you can see is her knee. And the girls have had other skirts (especially when sitting) that go up farther and show the knee. It's certainly not a prairie skirt, but it's hardly a mini-skirt either... I wouldn't get too excited.

Beth Anne said...

Jill looks quite pretty in that photo that was posted, and it's great to see her disengaged from the Duggar compound for a while and spending time with Derick's side of the family. However, and I feel guilty for saying this, but she looks quite large for how far along she is. Not large all over, but she looks around 7 months pregnant, whereas she is really only, what, 3-4 months? I know it's not nice to comment on a pregnant women's largeness, but it's just an observation. Is she basking in the glory of her pregnancy-ness and eating for 3? or just really, really pushing her belly out for photos???

got2bdrc said...

Regarding whether Derick had kissed a girl before Jill: I'm not nearly as interested in his pre-marriage love life than I am in exactly how far Jim Bob and Michelle went before their wedding. They claim to regret not saving their first kiss for their wedding day. Why? A first kiss is always special and sweet, no matter where or when it happens. I would really like to know that Jim Bob and Michelle think was so wrong about their pre-wedding sexual behavior that they've gone to the other extreme and won't let their kids even be alone in the same room with a person of the opposite gender till after they're married.

Anonymous said...

Jill is definitely pushing her belly out in pictures- it's so painfully obvious. She could have simply rested a hand over her belly, but nope all eyes must be on Jilly

Anonymous said...

Does Jim Boob actually still work in real estate or is it like Jill being a pretend midwife?

The other day a rerun was on where the family is in two teams, Josh's team wore red and J-Boob's team wore blue. It reminded me of red states and blue states and I chuckled at the thought of Boob being the leader of the liberal group.

Anonymous said...

I hope they are all getting prenatal care with an actual midwife or doctor or P.A.

Sharla said...

Jessa and Jill with spouses having dinner together.

http://instagram.com/p/wXf0gWrs4g/

Will the sites pushing a rift between them publish this photo?

Anonymous said...

I am interested in hearing from Jill regarding what type of prenatal care she is receiving. If she's not seeing an obstetrician, I would like to know why she feels it isn't necessary. Also I would like to know what, if anything, is different in prenatal care from a midwife?

taurus0385 said...

I pray that jill delivers in a hospital. She's so young and has no business delivering at home. With it being her first you never know what can happen. I also hope anna delivers in a hospital and doesnt make jill travel all the way to dc with a 3 month old to deliver her baby:

taurus0385 said...

I should say that since jill has experience assisting with deliveries I would hope she would have enough sense to leave it up to the professionals to help her.

Anonymous said...

Jill's facebook photo shows three embroidered Christmas stockings. Hers has a Santa Claus on it.

I find that interesting, considering the Duggars have been very vocal (and Michelle wrote it in her blog) that they do not allow Santa Claus as part of their beliefs, (she said they only talk about the ancient St. Nicholas, there's a difference).

Anonymous said...

Jim Bob is still very much into real estate. He is VERY savvy with his acquisitions and anyone in NWA knows it. They have made a lot of money in land purchases, flips and rentals. He is not stupid. He bought the stoney brook property for 92K in foreclosure.

Tammy C said...

It is NOT the personal Facebook page of Derick and Jill that has the 3 Santa.It is the fan page that has it.This is the original couple "Fanpage" dedicated to Derick Dillard and Jill Duggar.
We are not affiliated with Derick, Jill, The Duggars or TLC.

I wish it was their page.How cool would it be for them to use Santa.

Allison said...

I pray that jill delivers in a hospital. She's so young and has no business delivering at home. With it being her first you never know what can happen. I also hope anna delivers in a hospital and doesnt make jill travel all the way to dc with a 3 month old to deliver her baby:

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Actually Jill is the best person to give birth at home. She's young and not a high-risk pregnancy. Her delivery should be uneventful. Anna should probably consider giving birth in a hospital if she's had difficult births (I have not seen any of the birth episodes). Plenty of people give birth at home or at a midwife center, not at a hospital.

CatMom said...

The Duggars and Josh convinced Fayetteville to repeal an anti-discrimination bill. A sad day for Fayetteville...

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/12/michelle-duggar-wins-arkansas-town-repeals-lgbt-protections/

Anonymous said...

Re: Anonymous's question about how prenatal care from a nurse midwife differs from that provided by a physician: I do medical coding, including all prenatal care and deliveries, at a mid-sized urban hospital. Occasionally a Certified Nurse Midwife in our area will refer a patient to one of our obstetricians if some complication arises (e.g. breech presentation, preeclampsia, failure to progress during labor). In these cases the CNM sends us the patient's records, which are scanned into her hospital record. Having read a number of these, I can say that a CNM provides much of the same prenatal care that an OBGYN does, including at least one ultrasound, and labs to screen for gestational diabetes, anemia, genital tract infections, Rh incompatibility, etc. The mother's vital signs, weight, fundal height (i.e. size of the uterus)are monitored with each prenatal visit. The CNM documentation also indicates that the nurse spends time talking with the expectant mother (and her partner) about questions re: the pregnancy, what to expect during labor, and her emotional state.

I emphasize the "certified" part of the title, because these providers are registered nurses who have completed a rigorous course of study and passed a certification exam offered by the American College of Nurse Midwives.I don't know what kind of providers work for the midwife practice Jill trained with, and Jill herself seems to be only an apprentice lay midwife.

Healthy expectant mothers with low-risk pregnancies who seek care from a CNM can have a very safe, positive home birth experience. A good CNM will know when it's time to refer a patient to an OBGYN for a higher level of care.

Some bloggers on this site have wondered when a newborn delivered at home sees a physician. It's been my observation that our local CNMs also provide care for the baby in the immediate postpartum period, doing an exam/assessment and watching for complications like jaundice. By contrast, an infant who is born at our hospital in the evening will receive an initial exam by a family practice resident, but may not be seen by a pediatrician until the next morning.

Anonymous said...

anonymous 12/10 @3:32: Thank you so much for the midwife info. I sincerely hope that whoever Jill is seeing for her prenatal care and recommendations is fully certified.

Jennifer said...

Well with him going to OSU and being pistol pete. I bet he has kissed a few girls. They do always say. "Our"

Virginia said...

I am glad to see these kids once they are out on their own showing stockings with sant etc. I am a very strong Christian and have taught my kids the true meaning of Chriatmas yet wa have found a way to include Santa Rudof and other fun parts of the Holiday. In my house it does not take away from the true meaning of the season instead it teaches my kids how to focus on the true meaning and weeding theough the rest. Does that make sense?

Elspeth said...

The stockings were on a fan site not a Duggar site.

Anonymous said...

They're actors, being paid to portray a role and keep people buzzing about their doings. They have a PR department working full-time, churning out stories about them. In that way, they're just like the Kardashians.
Anyone who thinks they're role models of Christianity is misguided.
Christians don't hate, neither do they judge. The Duggars hate and judge like it's their job.
Tebow, with his showy praying on the football field wasn't being particularly Christian, either. The Bible says you should pray in private.
I have no patience for any of these phonies who are trying to come off all meek and humble but they're really all about the $$$, and determined to take away much-needed healthcare for women who can't afford to pay for visits to private doctors for checkups and birth control.

Reality TV Junkie said...

"Christians don't hate, neither do they judge."
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I have a huge problem with that statement. Sometimes, Christians hate and judge. EVERYONE struggles with sin. Being a Christian does not mean you never sin. So whether or not the Duggars judge others does not mean they cannot be Christians.

Anonymous said...

Fake Josh Duggar instagram is gone. I miss the snark! Does anyone know why?

Sharla said...

I believe you'll find him here:
instagram.com/the.real.fjd

Beth Anne said...

OK, it's probably because I think he's hot, but I have to defend Tim Tebow's "tebowing" on the field. I don't he was actually trying to be showy, but that he really did feel compelled to take a moment and give thanks to God for what was happening on the field. Players do all sorts of crazy, showy things and engage in celebrations that draw attention to themselves, and I always thought Tebow's were fairy sincere, in terms of coming from his heart.

At the same time, I agree, for the most part, that the Duggars have gotten fairly "showy" and feel an inflated sense of self-importance. That PR department, no doubt, is churning overtime!

Anonymous said...

The UP TV Network is airing the Bates' commercial non-stop in the afternoons. No less than 4-5 times an hour, they are showing that commercial, reminiscent of the Walton's "Goodnight mama, daddy, etc etc". I don't find it cute at all. If the Bates family is so unique and special, why do they need to copy a prior tv show?

It says their new show premieres on New Year's Day.

zoey said...

I think jessa lives in jills basement. Jessa posted a picture of her breakfast laid out on her counter and she has the same granite as jill and same backsplash (in a different pattern)

Elspeth said...

Commentary on the Duggar political beliefs and efforts:
http://observer.com/2014/12/the-duggars-politics/

Anonymous said...

I can't believe that one daughter would have the house and another daughter would live in the basement of that house.

sandi said...

Does anyone think all the recent runors really bother JB and Michelle? Because I think Michelle is giggling like a teenager (like she did at Jill's speeding ticket), and JB is just laughing all the way to the bank.JMO

sandi said...

Jill is due in March and I think she was 19 weeks along in the pic posted around Thanksgiving.

auntliddy said...

Zoey- so ben is a raging sucess! He went from living in a tin utility bldg to living in someone's basement! While he does yardwork for his father in law. Its like the life of a really lucky 16 yr old, lol

auntliddy said...

Cat mom- michelle should be ashamed of herself. And so should the idiot people who fell for "do you want perverts in your children's bathrooms?" Anything not understood by the unworldly and undereducated Duggars - homosexuality, transgender, abortion or birth control- becomes a sin and an abomination in their eyes

Anonymous said...

I caught one of those TLC Christmas things late last night that featured all the shows and included clips from past shows. There was one of the Duggars before they moved into their current kit house and they were opening a gift from the kids. It was pictures of them taken by the TLC people bound into an album. Michelle was obviously pregnant, of course, but I really took notice when she spoke - her voice was normal back then. I guess the child like sing song voice was created when she became a star.

Virginia said...

My guess is not that they live in the basement but rather in another rental that JB owns and they used the same slab of granite when remodeling.

Virginia said...

Also I find it interesting the negative comment about Ben when Jill and Derrick also live in a home owned by JB.

Anonymous said...

That album was actually when Josie was born and Christmas was in the rental house in little rock. So 5 years ago.

Anonymous said...

Someone did a little research and found Ben is using the address for Grandma's house (Josh and Anna's old house).

Anonymous said...

They understand it, they just don't agree with it.

Anonymous said...

Watching some of the older episodes Michelle definitely had a more normal speaking voice..she also didn't have the deer in the headlights face so much

Wampascat said...

How are they still on the air? I really am flabbergasted. They are constantly attending rallies to take away people's basic rights. Their son works for a known hate group akin to Westboro Baptist Church and yet they are still on the air. WTF? Paula Deen lost everything for much less and she apologized!!!!!

Stephanie from Virginia said...

What about blood work and lab work etc?

Anonymous said...

Why didn't JB remodel Grandma Duggar's house for Josh and Anna? I'm sure Anna would have liked to have ALL of her drawers in the kitchen and bathtub caulking not black from mold. (as I saw on the show).
Don't know why this family feels the need to travel to a country named "El Salvador", which means "The Savior", (who is Jesus).It already is a Christian nation, the Spanish missionaries from The Church got there a long time ago. What religion is it that they are trying to convert them to with candy, and nail polish?

Anonymous said...

I wish the Duggars were honest about their current wealth instead of still trying to be folksy, limited income Duggars. Josh post pics of himself courtside at NBA games and Jessa and Ben, who may or may not be employed, can afford eating out and weekend getaways. I don't know any unemployed person who can afford that!

Anonymous said...

'per Wampascat said'

You know, I've wondered that too! Paula Deen was accused by a person she had personal problems with who had no physical proof and yet there is physical proof of the Duggars 'ministry' and nothing from TLC. And Honey BooBoo was cancled based on a rumor and a possible fake photo.

Anonymous said...

I watched that today, you are right, she spoke normal. Kate seemed normal in that show too. It just goes to show when people do these reality shows they begin to change, and not for the better.

Anonymous said...

Josh does not work for the same hate group as Westboro Church. Those people are plain and simply evil!
The Duggars may be outspoken on some issues but they are not spouting hateful words or saying soldiers should die like those sick folks from that demented Westboro do. The Duggars have their beliefs but they are kind to people while guarding what they believe. BIG difference.

Anonymous said...

I watched it today, you are right about her voice. You can certainly see what being on a reality show does to to these families.

Andrea said...

Josh actually got to sit court side at an NBA game . . . okay, I'm officially jealous. I guess, that's what instagram is for? Also, the omlette looked awfully good Jessa was making her sweetheart. So Benessa is living at Josh and Anna's old place, how lovely for them.

Andrea said...

There are two things in America which are such hot button issues that even a wiff of them shuts down the TV show pronto - racism and child abuse. That's why Paula Deen is no longer on the air. The Honey Boo Boo incident is so repugnant, I think Mama June would be a outcast even in her own small town, red neck community. Child abuse is the sickest of the sick. As much as I dislike the Duggars I don't think that kind of abuse is going on (Thank god). I also don't think their racists. So that pretty much covers them.

Marie Meza said...


Umm??? What you consider "much less" millions of americans think otherwise as did much of corporate america who VOLUNTARILY removed her sponsorships (no one called for it). That was offensive to me as equally as the duggars anti gay rhetoric. Smh

morganw323 said...

Anyone else see Jessa's multiple Instagram posts of Ben singing different Christmas carols? He sang along with Bing Crosby and Gene Autry--last time I checked those two weren't wholesome Christian singers. He even sang about ...GASP... SANTA CLAUS! Maybe he grew up a bit differently than the Duggars and it isn't a sin to sing about Santa, but I think its showing a crack in the Duggar facade if the older ones are marrying and dumping some of the "old ways" of shunning all music that isn't a hymn or classical. What's next--pants on the girls!?!

Anonymous said...

How can Ben be singing Christmas songs in the car - I thought they didn't listen to secular music, only hymns?

Anonymous said...

In a recent interview, JimBob stated he is not at all worried about the petition to cancel the show. He stated "we are the number one show on TLC....."

I thought the show was a "ministry". Sounds to me like JimBob is speaking like a corporate marketing executive. Furthermore, don't the Duggars realize that other shows on TLC show/discuss sex, homosexuality, polygamy and much more.

I guess the Duggars don't mind being associated with other TLC people who don't share their beliefs, as long as the Duggar Paychecks from TLC keep rolling in. It is and always has been about the MONEY.



Just another example of the Duggar hypocrisy.

Anonymous said...

What's sad is that I don't think Jessa or any of the Duggar children know who Bing Crosby was nor did they ever watch the movie "White Christmas", which portrayed single adults out without a chaperone....sinful. I wonder what Jessa and maybe Jill think of broadening their boundaries of what was considered sinful in their parents' home? I hope they get to watch some TV and sing some Christmas carols across the board. There are many that do not offend the Lord simply because one is singing Jingle Bells.
Glad to see that old Ben knows such nice songs and that it's not sinful to sing other types of songs besides hymns and listen to classical music. I wonder if the Duggars believe that it is sinful for married couples to dance together? What's the harm? They can fulfill those "desires" righteously now, so what's sinful about that?

Anonymous said...

Don't let their campaigning for Rick Santorum fool you. El Salvador is anCatholic country and they think all Catholics are going to hell. I know this due to a fundie group I was involved with in high school told me that me and my Catholic family didn't know Christ. The "saved" members of the group proceeded to have an alcohol soaked party that they asked me to steal beers from work for. Needless to say I quit

Anonymous said...

Boy Jim Bob has some ego saying; "We are the number one show on TLC." What ever happened to the 'ministry?"

Anonymous said...

Bing Crosby wasn't a wholesome Christian? News to me. Inwhat way wasn't he?

auntliddy said...

Anon- Bing Crisby was mentally abusive to first wife and physically abused the four boys from first marriage. He routinely referred to his one son as bucket britches, lard ass etc, and belted him bare skinned if he was over weight.he wld whop him til he bled. Every day. He tried to screw the first four children out of their mothers inheritance, with the battle going on til 1999. So no, he was not a man who embodied christian ideals of love and forgiveness.

Anonymous said...

"The Duggars have their beliefs but they are kind to people while guarding what they believe. BIG difference."


In reference to the statement above---THEY are NOT kind to LGBTX people or anyone that supports LGBTX people.

Anonymous said...

Re auntliddy and Bing Crosby: I'm sorry to hear that. I heard he was a tough father with all 7 kids, but there is no excuse for what you reported here.
Although Bing had a family values "rated G" image, he still was considered not suited for the Duggars. How extreme they are. I'm holding out some hope that Ben and Jessa become a bit more normal.

Ro said...

With all the negative publicity the Duggars are getting, I really feel like this is the beginning of the end for them and their popularity. They are in every tabloid, attracting record viewers, and with all that attention comes a lot of scrutiny, which their lifestyle will not stand up to. Sooner or later, they will do something that will cause their fall from grace and people will begin to see their true colors.

Wampascat said...

Exactly!!! The Duggars are hypocrites, plain and simple! They believe their views are the only correct way to see things. They pick and choose Bible verses to base their lives on and want to change laws to adhere to their warped perspective. Just because these uneducated hicks have a TV show, they now think their popularity translates to enough power to swing votes to their hateful way of thinking. They would like to set women's rights back a hundred years and as far a Gay/Transgender rights... Well, they don't consider these people as human. The Duggars need to go away!

Anonymous said...

I think that Jim Bob's public statement about the negative publicity they are receiving about their views is arrogant and boastful. Commenting that they are the "number ONE show" on TLC, dismisses their theory that they are a ministry..they are entertainers with a TV show, like any other heathen on TV collecting a pay check for their "efforts". I don't think God likes that. They are taking money from a network which is secular and has shows on that go directly against their religion, etc. It's ok for them to take the "devil's money"? It should be unblessed in their eyes and they should have nothing to do with such a network. (In their opinion).
He will fall from the pedestal as all eventually do with their arrogance and carelessness.

got2bdrc said...

You're right. When I was in high school, I joined a club called "Interschool Christian Fellowship"; I was the lone Catholic. Like Anonymous, the group told me that Catholics don't know Jesus as their personal Lord and Savior and thus, did not deserve Heaven. When asked if I had accepted Jesus, I said yes--when I was baptized. Sadly, infant baptism doesn't count, so I was still a heathen in the club's eyes. I quit that group because I didn't like being judged. And I suspect that the Duggars feel the same way, hence the trips to El Salvador to convert the people to their particular brand of Christianity. Sad.

Anonymous said...
Don't let their campaigning for Rick Santorum fool you. El Salvador is anCatholic country and they think all Catholics are going to hell. I know this due to a fundie group I was involved with in high school told me that me and my Catholic family didn't know Christ. The "saved" members of the group proceeded to have an alcohol soaked party that they asked me to steal beers from work for. Needless to say I quit

12/15/2014 6:09 PM

Wednesday said...

I contacted TLC and let them know my concerns about this intolerant family. TLC needs to tighten their leash.

Anonymous said...

I don't care for the Duggars. I think they are way too legalistic, and it is saddening to see their adult children unable to grow and become educated and independent.
However, and I can't believe I'm about to say this, I don't believe their show should be cancelled just because of their views on things such as gay marriage or abortion. It is not hate to disagree. I find that some of those who claim Christians are intolerant are being just as intolerant as they say the Christians are being. Everyone has a right to free speech.

Anonymous said...

I guess the Duggars don't know about the catholic sacrament of Confirmation. That is when a candidate reaches their own age of discernment and take their own commitment to Jesus and His church on their own. So, how can we not be Christians? We do it twice. Once, FOR US, when we are infants, and then on our own around age 14. They should read all 800 pages of the Catechism of the Catholic Church before putting that type of Christian faith out to pasture. Not vey smart of them. I believe that we, the posters out here, of varying different faiths, or of no faith at all have done more reading about their Gothard religion then they have done regarding the catholic faith themselves.Upon being properly educated and informed on a particular subject, then, we all have a right to out opinion. And they should state that theirs IS THEIR opinion on the subject.

Beth Anne said...

Anonymous at 12:15:

I daresay I agree with you. There's lots of people on reality shows who have lots of varying opinions, and I think we've come to this place in our society whereby pro-abortion and pro gay marriage are the "good" and only acceptable views, whereas pro-life, etc. are the "bad" views. In a truly diverse society, people have the right to their personal opinions and being pro-life or stating that you believe in traditional marriage should not be a reason to cancel a show or be labeled a "hater.:

Also, someone said that the Duggars are NOT kind to LBGT folks. Frankly, they probably don't interact with many gay or transgender people, but I can't see them being openly mean or hostile like the Westboro Baptist folks. Of course, it would do the Duggars a world of good to NOT see people in black-or-white terms and to get to know some gay or transgendered people on a personal level to see them as individuals and understand that some of them could be truly great friends, if only the Duggars would open their home and hearts.

I do think they are activists in terms of lobbying against gay marriage laws, which is where I think a lot of people have a problem with them. It's kind of crossed a line between having personal beliefs and legislating their beliefs.

coleen said...

On my MSN news feed - hostage freed, US/Cuba, snowy weather for Xmas eve and... " A Year in the life of the Duggars" hmm.

Wednesday said...

I'm all for their free speech and I don't think they should be cancelled. But I do believe TLC needs to be responsible and allow the public to know what these morons are doing behind the scenes with Josh's hate group, Gothard and his sex abuse, and their fanatical need to take away any steps that women have made in this society.

Anonymous said...

I agree with the opinions that TLC does a real number on this family portraying them as THEY want to be shown. We need to see things for what they fully and truly are. It's misleading to continue with the heavy editing that is done.
I, for one,, would like to see a separate special put together factually showing this Gothard/extreme type of belief system aired on any network. One doesn't have to mention the Duggar family at all to do so.
Their viewers, however, would like for the façade to be removed.

Anonymous said...

Jim Bob is no dummy. The way TLC shows them is exactly the way Jim Bob insists upon.

A true Christian will stand by their beliefs personally and politically.

That is why they support Christian candidates.

Wednesday said...

I was thinking about this and have a little conspiracy theory. Please correct any of this if I am wrong. Also, please don't think I am paranoid - just some random thoughts!
Jim Bob was in politics, but couldn't maintain his seat. On one of their first shows when they were still building their house "Hobby Lobby" was in the credits. We all know that Hobby Lobby went on to win that notorious Supreme Court ruling that birth control shouldn't be covered because it causes abortions and it was against their beliefs. Also Hobby Lobby finances Gothard. Gothard pimps out the Duggars and the Duggars run all over the place de-senstitising people that maybe birth control isn't so great for society and that no-one needs a conventional education. Josh, an under educated nobody, gets a high profile job because his parents have a tv show. He begins to chip away at the current social fabric that homosexuals need to be put back in their place, and women need to be on board with having as many kids as they are told, and that they should not be educated. There is also a big push right now in the right wing media to not get an education because of student loans, and also that liberal teachers at universities will teach you to open your mind.

Is this all a master plan? Who "found" the Duggars? Are the powers that be in Washington becoming more infested with seeds of this extremism? Are they trying to make the Duggars mainstream so as to roll back the clock on our modern society?

Anonymous said...

Someone who knows the situation, please help me understand something. Didn't the Duck Dynasty people state that they "didn't agree with" being gay and those types of things were against their religion? Well, don't the Duggars state the same? If this is the case, why did TLC yank DD right off the air, but the Duggars get to stay on TV for those same beliefs? I would like to understand the two situations and how they compare, Thank you so someone out there.

Anonymous said...

Two things, the Duggars absolutely do not represent all Christians. They are members of a fringe group of ultraconservatives. Many of their views are heretical to the majority of Christians.

The second is Duck Dynasty was on a different network was it not and the guy expressed some racist ideas didn't he?

Anonymous said...

I can't believe the statement that the Duggars, probably don't interact with gay or transgender people. I believe they absolutely do not interact with gay or transgender people. You can leave out the word "probably." They may not be as openly mean & hostile as the Westboro Baptist folks. Those people are out there on the front lines, but believe me the Duggars are hiding behind them. They don't want to do anything openly that will end up canceling their show. Oh I mean their paycheck! So they are worse in my opinion.

Ruth said...

Duck Dynasty is on A&E. I don't believe they are owned by the same company either.

Anonymous said...

As long as the Duggars aren't breaking any laws and the ratings stay high, TLC will never cancel the show, nor should they.

Millions of people who disagree with the Duggar's religion and politics, still enjoy the show. In fact, they are addicted to it. Why? Because it exposes an alternative universe of unlimited fecundity that both fascinates and repels people at the same time.

Michelle Duggar often uses the word "surreal," and that's exactly what the show is. It is as surreal and campy as any film by John Waters or Andy Warhol. The fact that Jim Bob et al. are all playing it straight is irrelevant.

Were Andy still alive, he'd never miss an episode and would try to make one of the Duggar daughters (Jinger, Johannah, Josie) his next superstar.

The Duggars have a Teflon coating -- they're untouchable. I'm very surprised the gay rights community isn't smart enough to have figured this out.

Anonymous said...

I know this blog is only supposed to be about the Duggars, but Jim Bob Duggar has opened things up himself, by making the statement that their show, is the no 1 show on TLC. I truly don't know what the statistics are, regarding the number 1 show on TLC, but I would hope & pray that it would be: "The Little Couple!" I always enjoyed them, but this past year has shown what a truly loving, caring couple they are, even without constant public displays of affection, i.e. constant kissing, crude, sexual remarks. Yes we have JB practically throwing Michelle onto the floor when he kisses her, as far as I'm concerned that's just acting on his part. We know it's acting as we saw another great example of the Duggar style of love & affection when Josh threw on his sunglasses (in church) & grabbed Anna, kissing her the same way. The apple doesn't fall far from the tree does it? The little couple have dealt with just as much heartache as the Duggars have. Yes the Duggars had the Jubilee miscarriage, but . Bill & Jen went through such a great deal to adopt those two beautiful children, both with special needs. They maintained a period of privacy in their home following the adoptions in order for those children to bond & not be thrown into the TV spotlight. Not to mention Jen's hellish bout with cancer. They are truly Godly, Christians. They had the true faith hat God would bring them through that difficult time. Whenever I watch them I'm over the moon about that darling little Will, & his smile as big as the world, & sweet Zoey is really now coming into her own. I just love & respect them so much. I often say to my husband, nothing would break my heart more than to find out they were not, "the real thing." I cannot believe that Jim Bob Duggar has the gall & ego to say that they have the no 1 show on TLC. He really doesn't have clue as to what people want to see, & what they truly admire & respect in a family. That little family of four people are heads & shoulders (no pun intended) above the Duggars. By the way Jim Bob, what happened to your "ministry?"

Anonymous said...

While Jessa, Jill, and the Duggar family instagrams all wished miracle child Josie a happy birthday on the day of her birthday, they have yet to wish Jordyn one, and it is a day late now. But "we don't have favorites" remember.

Anonymous said...

OK, Duck Dynasty was on A&E, indicated the same beliefs as the Duggars and they were cancelled right away. Still, why do the Duggars get a pass and continue for those same public beliefs? I also don't think that DD were working to legislate their religious beliefs, were they?

Anonymous said...

I can't divulge to much, but the Duggar's, truly, all of them are very gracious and kind. It is not an act. I attend the Church where Jill and Derrick were married. I have done some service projects when some of the older youth. They are the real deal. They are not haters. They just stand up for their beliefs.

I too fundamentally believe marriage is between a man and a woman. Does that automatically make me a hater?

I also believe in traditional values and I will be darned if the liberals are going to turn that into a bad word.

I am not wrong to have my beliefs. I am not wrong to share those.

It always baffles me how many people who do not care for the Duggar's watch their show. Do you sit there and yell at the screen? I really do not know.

What I do know, is the Duggar's have reached millions, worldwide. Josh is maturing and his public speaking is improving. The Duggar support is gaining momentum. We will see much more of them in the next 2 years.

As for them having a Teflon coating....nothing will stick because there is nothing to stick.

:)

SBJ

Anonymous said...

I believe Phil from Duck Dynasty also veered into overt rascism which is seen as worse by society than homophobia.

auntliddy said...

Anon- duck dynasty still on. Once you see who these people are its your choice, watch it or not.l

Anonymous said...

SBJ - there was a time when "traditional" families were also the same race. Substitute the word interracial for gay and you've got the same problem. Of course, forty years ago there were plenty of people quoting bible verses to justify that view too.

Harley Knott said...

I can't divulge TOO(not TO) much, but the DUGGARS (not Duggar's), truly, all of them, are unknown to me except for what I see on TV. Given that, they are portrayed on the show as closed-minded robots who speak in pre-rehearsed phrases that they learned from some (alleged)pedophile in Chicago. Christianity in the early days was all about inclusion (tax collectors, lepers, Samaritans, etc.) but in the Duggar world, it is all about exclusions (gays, transgendered, Catholics, etc.)

Wampascat said...

If sharing traditional values includes depriving an individual or group of civil liberties or freedoms available to all other citizens, then, yes, it is indeed, HATE.

Allison said...

While Jessa, Jill, and the Duggar family instagrams all wished miracle child Josie a happy birthday on the day of her birthday, they have yet to wish Jordyn one, and it is a day late now. But "we don't have favorites" remember.


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They posted a video of Jordyn getting her ears pierced on their FB page, and wished her a happy birthday. She seemed pretty nonplussed about the whole thing though...

Anonymous said...

In this country, everyone is entitled to their beliefs and to the pursuit of happiness. What bothers me is the Duggars want to legislate their belief system into law, and that would take away the decision making for many Americans; ie, personal household decisions, lifestyle issues and reproductive decisions.. How is that right? That very freedom that they enjoy would not be extended to everyone to decide for themselves.

Anonymous said...

I saw this in the comments section on some article on yahoo. I was wondering if these things about AR homeschooling and the charity house are true

"They receive the equivalent or less of a 6th grade public school education by their uneducated older sisters. The State of Arkansas does not award high school diplomas to home schooled children, nor are they eligible. This is according to the AR Dept of Education's own website.

If it weren't for TLC they would have never traveled outside of Arkansas and Tennessee. They were crammed inside a church supplied charity house receiving public aid prior to TLC rescuing them. That is a matter of PUBLIC record"

Anonymous said...

If the State of Arkansas doesn't award homeschooled children high school diplomas, are they referring to GED's also? If they are, how did Michelle give Jessa and a few other older kids a GED? Was it a home made one? Are the Duggar kids' GEDs from the State of Arkansas? Anyone know?

Anonymous said...

What public aid prior to TLC rescuing them did the Duggars receive? They have said that private individual help and or church aid was given to them. Thank you.

Anonymous said...

Jill even gave a shout out on Jubilee's miscarriage date...that is just odd. They need to move on from miscarried baby number 20 and just love on ALL the 19 they have.

Beth Anne said...

Re: They have said that private individual help and or church aid was given to them. Thank you.

I never heard about public aid or private aid, but I haven't read any of their books to get their start-from-scratch family story. But, if you need a significant amount of church aid or private support, why oh why are you having more and more kids? (head spinning in vain to grasp that concept)

Alberta Rose said...

I saw this in the comments section on some article on yahoo. I was wondering if these things about AR homeschooling and the charity house are true

"They receive the equivalent or less of a 6th grade public school education by their uneducated older sisters. The State of Arkansas does not award high school diplomas to home schooled children, nor are they eligible. This is according to the AR Dept of Education's own website.

Really? Funny, because when I went to the AR Dept. of Education's own website, I discovered a link to the Home School Office, which clearly states: The Home School Office was established in October 1999 to promote collaboration between home school parents, public schools and the Arkansas Department of Education. As well, when I typed "GED" into the AR Department of Education, I got 79 hits, the first page of which contained "a high school diploma or GED..."

Next comment: If it weren't for TLC they would have never traveled outside of Arkansas and Tennessee. They were crammed inside a church supplied charity house receiving public aid prior to TLC rescuing them. That is a matter of PUBLIC record"
If it weren't for TLC they would have never traveled outside of Arkansas and Tennessee. They were crammed inside a church supplied charity house receiving public aid prior to TLC rescuing them.

It's also a matter of public record that they were building the large house BEFORE they were discovered by TLC. Also, they had gone on mission trips BEFORE they were discovered by TLC. Depending on how long you've known the family, and how thoroughly you search, you will find the information necessary to back up your viewpoint.

Anonymous said...

Remember Michelle's test to see if she was in menopause? I asked my dr about that and she said there is no such thing. It has to do with missing your cycle to x amount of months. She's just done and won't admit it.

Anonymous said...

"Also, they had gone on mission trips BEFORE they were discovered by TLC"

Where did they go, overseas somewhere? Where did they get the money? There was just 6 of us and I never even got on an airplane till I was 18 because of cost.

Anonymous said...

Yes, they were building the house before TLC's rescue of them, but it was being done at a snail's pace. They were about to be evicted from their rental church house because it was scheduled to be torn down by the church who owned it and they would have never finished it enough to move into before that event was going to happen. TLC, therefore, DID rescue them from that scenario by paying them big bucks to appear on TV and supplied real, professional, qualified help with quick construction, furnishings and decorators to boot. In record time...not on their own time OR dime.
I also wonder how they passed county building inspections? Before TV intervention, they had children doing welding, power nail gun work, etc? One needs a license to perform many stages of home construction and child labor is NOT allowed or qualified to do such work that needs a license to perform. How did they address these very real life county and state regulations? Anyone out there ever ask the county building department about that?

Elspeth said...

Regarding menopause, that's the official definition, but and here's what your doctor should have told you, they can test FSH levels and that's an excellent indicator of where a woman is in the process.

Anonymous said...

I don't know what physician would tell a patient that there is no such test for menopause. I, myself had an FSH test to "see where I was" in menopause. It does tell a doctor something important. If that's the test Michelle had or not, they should make clear what info or tests that doctor used in determining Michelle's chances, if any to conceive again. This is where I get annoyed with this family. They give "partial or favorable information" out only.

Anonymous said...

I'd also like to know about the mission trips they went on. My daughter & son-in-law go on mission trips for their church & although there are some fund raising events, it's not nearly enough to cover the cost of just the two of them. They pay for it out of their own pockets. Oh they also met, fell in love with, & adopted a beautiful child they met during one of their mission trips, even though they have biological children. Wonder what ever happened to the Duggars adopting?? Remember how devoted Jill "appeared" to be with one of those young girls she met on a mission trips. She was going to go back& see her again, as well as write to her. I don't know if the girl could read English & Jill can barely speak any Spanish, so I don't believe she can write in Spanish. Perhaps she did go back for a visit & they edited that out.

Anonymous said...

That a very interesting point, & I would also like to know about how you can allow young children to use power tools & work in dangerous construction areas. When you think of it, you always see the men & women that work in construction wearing protective gear. I'll bet Jim Bob never would spring for steel toe boots, or hard hats for his work crew.

Anonymous said...

Yes, your doctor can do a blood test to check hormone level, I had one at 39 and found out I was in menopause at a very early age.

Anonymous said...

per other comments:

Anyone can get a GED if they take the GED test. I know people who dropped out of HS or earlier and got their GED.

I don't think the Duggars took mission trips like the trips they take now(overseas) before TLC, I believe they see their family as a mission. So anytime they were able to witness to someone it was a mission trip.

Mary said...


http://okmagazine.com/photos/jana-duggar-tim-tebow-dating-19-kids-and-counting-set-up-jim-bob-courting/photo/1001164550/

ook at photo 7 is that a Duggar grandbabby? looks like a new baby

Anonymous said...

Anybody else has a thought on Jim Bob and Michelle's statement that "not everyone is as tolerent of others as they are". I really thought I was gonna choke on this one...

Anonymous said...

Mary, Jana is holding Josh and Anna's son Marcus in that picture. :-)

Anonymous said...

Just a (naughty) thought...but what if the fake josh duggar is run by a Duggar?

Anonymous said...

You know, I noticed that for all the airplay that the Duggars are getting, it is always pictures that THEY posted themselves, like on Instagram or whatever. It's never what a stranger or reporter took. Like in People you see a picture of Lady Gaga at the beach or Kim/Chloe at some restaurant. Are the Duggars never out of the house? isn't some other reporter interested in getting impromptu pictures? Every single one out there seems to be one that they took themselves.

Anonymous said...

Josiah's back with the fam for xmas. http://instagram.com/p/w7niWaNkJv/?modal=true

Andrea said...

I'm not entirely convinced the Duggar's relied on public assistance in any way. I believe they were living in quite a large home before moving into the rental which was eventually demolished. The three bedroom home we first saw them in was perhaps temporary accommodations until the big house was completed. I think Jim Bob is quite shrewd, I don't doubt that they didn't have some tight months, but remember Jim Bob went to private school . . . he came from money. Obviously, the reality TV show has put them into an entirely different category of wealth. The rental we first saw them in, played in nicely to the "We're so thrifty" motto. Also, remember Jim Bob was a State Senator, someone aided in his campaigning . . . going into politics isn't cheap.

Anonymous said...

Is Jessa wearing pants in the Christmas video the Duggars just put up via People mag?

auntliddy said...

And please leave him home, and dont send him back to that nutfarm. He's s good kid!!

auntliddy said...

They may not rely on public funds, but they sure finagle for freebies ALL the time, based on them being a nice, large Christian family, which they are, but that doesnt mean you deserve freebies or super deals!! I wld posture jombob is ruthless businessman - thats where all their aggression goes!

Leigh Ann said...

They were in that 3-bedroom house temporarily, maybe a year? There was some reason they had to move out of where they were, it was sold or something. The new house wasn't quite completed. The three-bedroom house was slated to be torn down so the owners didn't have an issue with stuffing 14 people in it. I remember that being mentioned on one of the early specials.

sandi said...

Jim Bob was a state legislator,but never a Senator.Quite a big difference.He never got above state level.He was just involved in law making in Ark.

coleen said...

The Duggars don't have a Xmas tree. I wonder if this in a new tradition for them, in past episodes the family had Xmas decorations and a tree.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2886426/The-Duggar-family-explain-forego-holiday-tree-order-celebrate-Jesus-birthday.html

Leigh Ann said...

" Are the Duggars never out of the house? isn't some other reporter interested in getting impromptu pictures? "

That's an interesting observation. I never notice their pictures. They don't have to leave the house to have their pictures taken. There have been photographers camped outside the Gosselin house. Although Kate also had her kids play out front where they could be seen and photographed. The Duggars do seem to spend more time inside the house. And they may be further from the front gate, too. Maybe they don't have paps following them everywhere they go. And it's great for the kids if they don't.

Wampascat said...

I don't believe Jim Bob was ever a Senator. He was a State Rep. He did go to private school. I think his mom paid for it by running the yogurt shop. That is how he and Michelle met. I don't think he came from big money. I do think Jim Bob know how to squeeze a nickel until it screams, but they were not flush in the pockets when they first appeared on television. If they had been, I'm sure we'd have seen better style than prairie dresses and Aldi shopping trips.

Anonymous said...

RE: Andrea's comments. I don't believe the statement that Jim Bob came from money. Just because his parents only had two children & they were both working parent who were able to send their kids Christian School, doesn't mean there is money in the family. We don't really know if Deanna, JB's sister went to private school, it might have been just Jim Bob. I have no idea what "large house" they were living in before the rental. According to each member of the family that is old enough to remember where they lived, they never lived in a large home until the one they are now living in. I will grant that Jim Bob is very shrewd & I have no idea who would have contributed to his political career. Of course when you stop & you think about it the Duggars always have " very close, dear friends" waiting in the wings for what ever need they might have. Strangely when these very close,dear friends appear at their home or wherever they are, the Duggars always need to introduce themselves. I don't know about the rest of you, but my friends know who I am & who my husband & kids are & don't need to be introduced as though they were meeting for the first time.

Anonymous said...

reg. Andrea's comments - I don't think the Duggars were on gov't assistance but did receive charitable assistance from friends, family, etc. I don't believe they lived in a big home before the church rental. At one time they lived in a small house behind JB's father's car lot.

Anonymous said...

Jana's harp is in Jill's house. How sad...

http://instagram.com/p/uampNkrs31/?modal=true

Anonymous said...

RE: The test that Michelle had to see if she was indeed going through menopause. There was never any definitive answer to that question. She had the test, & said it was unlikely, but not completely out of the picture that she could still conceive. It had to be one way or the other, but they sure dropped that quickly didn't they.

Andrea said...

Interesting comment about the Duggar's never having candid photos taken out in public. Could it be that no paparazzi is in rural Arkansas? Seriously, what photographer is going to go out there for some candid photos which won't fetch that much money. If they got a photo of Jana kissing Tim Tebow, for sure, but otherwise photos of them won't be worth that much. As for locals not taking photos, I'm sure the locals are either really uninterested or personally know them and quite like them and therefore would think it rude.

Canadian Fan said...

There was a link on the Bateses' website (http://iblp.org/news/story-timeless-book) that leads you to the Bible story read by David Waller and illustrated by Michael Bates' soon-to-be fiancé Brandon. Personally, not a big fan of the Wallers but Brandon's art was beautiful. Brandon is included in the Bates family Christmas photo so a proposal must be coming in the near future.

Anonymous said...

" Seriously, what photographer is going to go out there for some candid photos which won't fetch that much money. "

But it seems if a new Instagram picture is out there, about four websites pick it up instantly and write a story. So there's some interest by the reporting organizations. But I don't think I've ever seen a picture in the last year or so that wasn't presented by them themselves

Anonymous said...

Just saw Thanksgiving and Christmas pictures of Jill. Please Jill, if you read this, with all the money you seem to have why can't you buy some decent maternity clothes. Their is nothing attractive about tight clothes stretched across your pregnant belly. Don't you care what you look like. You are not very attractive and remind me of a bag lady. At lease do this for your poor husband.

Carol said...

So the Duggars produced their own Christmas video. Heaven forbid they shouldn't appear on my yahoo feed for one day. I refuse to watch. Just a waste of iPhone data fees.

Katie's Mom said...

I have seen the Duggars with decorations up for Christmas, mostly saying "Happy Birthday to Jesus."I also remember when they had the float in the local Christmas Parade & won the prize for the most religious. They even had a camel in the parade, which Jim Bob was afraid to get on, so he had John or Joe ride the camel. However the only time I ever saw a Christmas tree on camera, was when they were staying in a "friends" home in Little Rock right after Josie's birth. It was before they rented a home of their own in Little Rock. They moved right after Josie's birth into the friends home & it was beautifully decorated with a gorgeous tree. That's where they were given the book of pictures of the kids for a Christmas present. In some of the very old photos when there were only a few very young kids there was a tree in the background of the photo somewhere, but it isn't clear if it's the Duggars own home or if they are visiting someone that has a tree.

Anonymous said...

Seeing the photos of the Duggars opening Christmas gifts, pretty obvious they no longer shop for each other at thrift stores.

Anonymous said...

Ummm, no. There is a difference between a high school diploma and a GED. They are not the same and the commenter was right, a homeschooled person doesn't qualify for a high school diploma! A high school diploma takes four years to earn at a fully accredited educational institution, and a certain amount of credits/classes passed. A GED test takes only seven hours to complete, and only tests a person on the most basic subject knowledge. Furthermore, although some colleges and universities accept GED's, people with actual high school diplomas have more options.
Additionally, as far as mission work by the Duggars before the TV era, they could have done mission work anywhere, you don't have to leave your state to help people in need.

Anonymous said...

Sad to say that everything the Duggars do is on a child like and juvenile level, even Christmas...the "happy birthday Jesus" themed holiday that they observe in on the early elementary sunday school level. Sad to say the older kids and adult ones at home, have no stimulation to grow up. One can have a spiritual/religious observation of the birth of Christ on a more grown up sophisticated level.
The Duggar family is not much more than a group of juvenile minded people, especially the parents. I don't know how Mary Duggar's mind hasn't turned to mush yet.

auntliddy said...

Anon- all the pregnant young women wear clothes like that now. Not a huge fan myself, but she doesnt look any better or worse than any other pregnant gal.

auntliddy said...

Yup, agree with above poster, yheir thrift shop days are probably pretty much over. Now they have money.
Agree, Jesus birthday thing is childish- my sister did it for her kids when they were under 6. I think the no tree thing is because the older kids are married or working or away at camp, so the workforce is greatly diminished. In other words, not enough flunkys left to do tree and of course God forbid michelle or dim bon gets off their butts to do it.Michelle just gets more and more estranged from the younger children. Maybe she has some form of aspergers, which wld explain her inability to bond or emphathize with her children.
Oh and i like when they have company, they say oh it was great, we had fellowship, when they mean, we hung out and BS-ed- like everyone else, lol

Judy said...

I saw a picture of Jill on HuffPo. All throughout her pregnancy, she has looked further along than she really is.I'm not suggesting she had sex before her wedding; I'm sure that's not true. It's just more -- Wow, she sure grows 'em big.

Anonymous said...

HS diploma vs GED- Some HS allow homeschool kids to get a HS diploma with their school. Some homeschool kids have dual enrollment-homeschool and public/private high school.

Anonymous said...

In the latest Bringing UP Bates ad, the women are wearing (gasp) pj pants!

http://instagram.com/p/xH8TyVsbrY/?modal=true

Jennifer said...

The Bates posted another promo pic for their upcoming premiere...since when do the girls/women in the family all wear pants? It's good to see, I'm just surprised. Meanwhile, Jessa and Ben posted a video of Ben opening a Chik fil a sandwich. Those two seem to have a lot of time on their hands. Or maybe a slight addiction to documenting every mundane aspect of their lives through social media?

Anonymous said...

Enough with the "I'm glad to see TV hasn't changed the Bates family" rigamarole! They clearly *have* changed. Years ago earrings, painted nails, excessive makeup and knee length skirts were taboo. Pants were out of the question. According to Ma Bates more recently, pajama pants were strictly for bedroomgift wear. But have you seen their new promotional poster for the show? Pajama pants in public....for the world to see!! Money and fame does change folks. I barely recognized sweet innocent Carlin of old....she could easily pass for any number of Hollywood actresses. Quite beautiful, but drawing attention to WAY more than her countenance! I'd like an explanation of this, since they wereare once considered more country than the Duggars and now outshine them in their fashion sense! Except Erin. That hair has to go.
But really, I'm just waiting for Whitney to go back to pants, because their short tight (hussy) skirts are just as revealing.

Anonymous said...

In had twins and it seemed awhile before I showed (didn't even know about the twins until 20 weeks) anyway, doctor said it was becuinhad great stomach muscles. I was a pageant girl and worked out constantly. I even did my ab work ten weeks into pregnancy.

My theory is, even though the girls have nice figures they have never done any physical exercise or sport etc. I think they just starve and Mama jusy does her machine. No abd makes you show faster plus she wants to show.
Doc told me I'd show soon enough and he was right m there was no rush i got huge and only carried for 31 weeks

sandi said...

You can get a HS diploma through a home correspondence course nowadays.In fact I thought one of the girls (Jinger?) had one? Someone correct me if I'm wrong about her.But I know I have seen the course in ads online and in the mail.
As for the PJ pants and Chik fil a photo,am thinking they obviously get paid and or free product for the propmotions.
I wonder if Jessa and Ben will start doing all the meal promos like Josh did when he lived in Ark.I'm thinking he must've gotten a lot of free meals that way.

MCL said...

I watched either the first episode or a special premiere of Bringing Up Bates on Brighthouse On Demand. I enjoyed it.Mostly it was general info about them and also showed Whitney's baby shower. Chad and Erin discussed the miscarriage and my heart did go out to them. Chad is a real sweetie to Erin.

Anonymous said...

Nothing like going to a fast food restaurant after working out..I think they negate their efforts and these two married "adults" have waaay too much time on their hands and both need real, full time employment. They are hanging around like two high school kids, IMO. I, also think they are eating for free either way,...as they have all those restaurant gift cards to use and I bet the restaurant comps them for being featured...nothing like a free commercial for them, compliments of Benny and Blessa.

Anonymous said...

I have a question about Josiah being away at Alert training camp. Do we know that his parents require him to stay there? Is it possible that he wants to be there, since it's likely the closest thing to going away to college that he would ever be allowed to do? He might not like the frequent TV cameras and other media presence in his family life. Just a thought.

Allison said...

"Jana's harp is in Jill's house. How sad...

http://instagram.com/p/uampNkrs31/?modal=true"

I believe Jill also played the harp, so that could be hers.

"Jim Bob was a state legislator,but never a Senator.Quite a big difference.He never got above state level.He was just involved in law making in Ark."

It is true that Jim Bob was a state representative, but the OP said "State Senator" which is a position within the state of Arkansas. There is a State Senate and then the US Senate, just like there are state representatives and then representatives to the US House of Representatives. It's a complex government we have, but those titles belong to both federal and state governments.

Jim Bob, however, was a state representative.

Anonymous said...

Yes you can, but those are specific programs offered online. The ones the Duggas plug on their website aren't offering a high school diploma because they aren't accredited. Unless Jinger went through their local school district (and the school district has online classes) then I doubt she has a high school diploma. Those online high schools probably aren't Godly enough for them.

Special Ed Lady said...

If John David wants to court a woman, does he have to ask Jim Bob's permission as well as the woman's father?

sandi said...

I don't think a guy has to ask his father for permission to court;however,given the family dynamics in most of these families,I'm sure he would want his dad to know,and he would want his dad's approval of her.
Esp. if it were a Duggar,since the lady and her family would likely be on the show.Well,I suppose no doubt about that.

auntliddy said...

I could say something snarky but im not, so i shld get some extra points when i get to heaven, lol

Special Ed Lady said...

She might be a young woman that might do awful things. She might wear pants, decent shoes as opposed to flip flops and maybe have shorter stylish hair. Maybe she has estched TV or used the Internet up supervised.

Kelkel said...

I liked the Bates first show last week. Music, cool intro and I Love the way they show where each talking head kid is in the birth order by the orange square with their number inside just beneath.

coleen said...

Why is Joy-Anna bench pressing in a skirt on all my news feeds?

Alberta Rose said...

Just saw Thanksgiving and Christmas pictures of Jill. Please Jill, if you read this, with all the money you seem to have why can't you buy some decent maternity clothes. Their is nothing attractive about tight clothes stretched across your pregnant belly. Don't you care what you look like. You are not very attractive and remind me of a bag lady. At lease do this for your poor husband.

Those are what the maternity clothes are for this decade.

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