Tuesday, February 24, 2015, 9:31 PM, Bridesmaids and Babies

With only 6 weeks until the big day, Jessa & Ben are in the thick of wedding planning. Meanwhile, Jill & Derick are preparing for parenthood at their first midwife visit. And Jinger is behind the lens as she takes Ben & Jessa's engagement photos.

30 minutes

Ratings:  2.414 M viewers and a .9 rating.

179 comments:

taurus0385 said...

So this is pretty much exactly like last season

Anonymous said...

Does anyone know if Jill is actually seeing an OBGYN or has she been winging this pregnancy without medical care?

Anonymous said...

Jill had been seeing a midwife and doula. I don't know if it is the same one as Anna used, Ms. Theresa(?) In a clip of Jill's appt, it sorry to say, looked like some shack of a facility she entered. She IMO, really needs the evaluation from an obstetrician based on her "size" and his/her opinion is she will likely deliver vaginally without any difficulty, suffering or unnecessary pain...but she's "winging it" in that department if you ask me. Hope that helped.

Judy said...

I believe Jill is seeing midwives and she is having a home birth.

Elspeth said...

Ms. Teresa is a doctor's wife who teaches childbirth classes. She was with Anna for the first two births and it was probably technically illegal for her to assist the births. The third birth Anna went to an actual midwife's home or place of business to deliver. It wasn't the same midwife that Jill was training with.

Anonymous said...

Derick Dillard looks so tired and worn out already, how is he going to handle actual daddy duty and all the kids that Jill, no doubt, plans to have?
Is JimBob getting more annoying or is the fake acting just getting more over the top obvious?

Anonymous said...

Ms Teresa delivered Michael, didn't she? It was Anna who was in the van while in labor traveling to her house. She prayed to reach Ms. Teresa's house in time...Why would anyone go to an untrained person to monitor your pregnancy and deliver your child. I also read that her husband's medical license had been suspended.

Anonymous said...

Jill should see Dr. Sarner. She would tell her like it is; homebirth vs hospital birth based on a lot of important considerations.

Anonymous said...

MS Teresa, is not a midwife but teaches "Bradly Birth Classes." She assisted at MacKenzie's birth & Josh & Anna refered to her as a "doula." Her husband was the family DR that Josh & Anna took MacKenzie to for her first check-up after her birth. Her husband, the Duggar family DR ( according to Josh) then lost his medical license for involvement in writing illegal drug prescriptions. That was after the birth of MacKenzie. She didn't assist at Michael's birth, only family friend, MS Query, Jill, Jana & of course Michelle were there for Michele's birth. Michelle appeared to just be there to do the "talking head segments.". I don't believe that MS Theresa's husband is still the Duggar family DR although, I believe he has his medical licence back at the present time.

Anonymous said...

It's unimaginable to me in this day & age to just wing a home birth. I hope Jill has at least a very well trained midwife that will recognize a problem if one arises. I keep remembering all the times everything was going well for Michelle & then the baby turned & was transverse & she needed a C-section. If Jill ever has that problem I hope for her sake & the sake of the baby they get her to the hospital, ASAP

Anonymous said...

His wife seems so demanding. And clinging. I dont think this nice young man knew EXACTLY what he was getting into. They were both swept idmto a furious whirlwind of exciting and fast engagement eventr ', travel and filming it all for tv.....ooops....the "ministry". It all moved way too fast if you ask me. Jim whisked his pure daughter who had never even DATED clear around the world into a foreign country to go hn pursuit of a young man she had never EVEN MET. IT ALL looked so desperate. And now hes stuck with an emotionally immature youmg woman wh.th the mental maturity of a twelve year old middle schooler all giggly with her very first boyfriend. Except guess what? It IS HER FIRST BOYFRIEND. and she married him and she made darn sure she got pregnant immediately to tie him down. If i was him i would feel so trapped! She wont even let him out of her sight to go to his job like a normal man! It is pitiful.

Anonymous said...

I feel for him. Wish he had paid more attention to what he was getting into. Unfortunately he has been manipulated into one of the most CONTROLLING FAMILIES in America and gotten pushed into one of the most strict cults. His father in law simply doesn't believe in nor allow young couples to think for themselves and make their own way. Look how he controls the young Ben man for his other daughter. Every single one of these young MARRIED couples needs to PACK UP THEIR BELONGINGS and get OUT OF JIMBOBS AND HIS MOTHERS houses and get their OWN JOBS bank accounts cars leases bosses churches and LIVES. get out from under this dictators thumb! They are of legal age and need to stand up for themselves. If they are reading this i hope they grow up and take my advice. There are plenty of people who would help. Wake up jessa and ben and derrick and jill!!

Anonymous said...

Jill has a long way to go maturity wise. She acts thirteen!! Dont know how derrick stands that. She may be expecting but she has the mind of a jr. High girl not a mature woman

Anonymous said...

The majority of Michelle's children were born in a hospital... With pain meds!! So what is up with all these home births!

Anonymous said...

The only time Anna ever left her home for the birth of her child was for Marcus's birth. Both the other children were born at home. She was in the van going to a midwife's house (don't remember her name) along with, again family friend MS Query, Michelle & Josh driving for Marcus's birth. They reached the midwife's home in time for the birth & for Jill & Jana to arrive from the home of another mom who had just given birth. MS Theresa was not involved in the delivery of Michael. Anna was under the care of a very copmpentant OB/GYN DR with MacKenzie. Unfortunatly for Anna, when she went into labor they found out DR Sarver a woman DR was out of town & Anna would have had a male DR for the delivery of MacKenzie. That's when Josh said; "I think WE can do this at home, ourselves." So Anna delivered her first child without out a DR present or a midwife as MS Theresa was not a midwife but was mentioned as a doula by Josh.

Anonymous said...

They say how women have been delivering at home for generations. Yeah, that's because they had no choice. And many of them died because of it. There's a very good reason hospital births caught on. Of course it's not as comfortable, etc., as being at home but still there's a reason everybody started doing it. But if anything went wrong they'd probably say it was God's will or something like that.

Anonymous said...

I agree with the poster regarding lack of choice 100 years ago and home births. YES, it was determined FOR Anna that she labor and deliver at home without any qualified personnel rather than have Dr. Sarver's covering physician attend to Anna most likely because he is male. I'll never understand that one. Anna was a young girl at the time and I would hope she learned a few things...why did they have to drive all that way for Marcus' birth and not to a nearby hospital? Doesn't make sense to have that girl suffer needlessly 3 times.
Also regarding Mr. Byrum, he is puzzling to me. If he doesn't buy into the strict Christian beliefs that even Cathy seems to have, why then did they marry? I would think that those beliefs would have been a major factor in beginning a relationship in the first place? I would very much like to hear from any of those 3, Dan, Cathy or Ronnie on those things.

Anonymous said...

So, who's house was it that Anna was praying to get to in time while riding in their van? I believe it was Ms. Teresa's house one hour away. Still doesn't make any sense.

Elspeth said...

So, who's house was it that Anna was praying to get to in time while riding in their van? I believe it was Ms. Teresa's house one hour away. Still doesn't make any sense.

That was an actual midwife's place that they went to for the third birth. Why she picked a midwife so far away is a good question, but using a real midwife made good sense for a change.

Virginia said...

This is just a thought. I wonder of part of what is driving the decision for a home birth is to be able to film it for the show. I don't know how much they would be able to film if it were a hospital birth? I do support home births if there is a trained midwife and staff there. Especially for a first baby. I am concerned for Jill as I have heard that Derrick was close to 10 pounds at birth. She is a small girl and when looking at her face etc does not look like she has gained a tremendous amount of weight so that could be a BIG baby. For both of their safety I wish they would have this first baby under more controlled conditions.

Anonymous said...

That midwife was waaaayyy too far; one hour? They also waited for Missy Michelle to have to go with them? What for? If there is a real emergency, you don't wait, you take the other 2 kids in the car with you BEFORE you are so far along in labor, not as Anna did, and the kids could have been entertained by Josh or someone at the midwife's home...also, remember Jill and Jana "happened" to be nearby so they were able to be there too; also could have entertained Mac and Mike. Just screwed up IMO. I wonder how Mrs. Keller felt having to watch her own daughter suffer needlessly; maybe she felt stupidly proud that her daughter was "suffering for Christ?" I hope not. Why didn't she fly over and stay with Anna those last 2 weeks? She could have been so much help to her; as her husband and grown up sons could have taken care of themselves for a bit on their homefront. Doesn't make sense either. One thing seems for certain; if anyone married into the Duggar family, they instantly become orphans.

Elspeth said...

For those concerned about filming a hospital birth, how many of Michelle's hospital births were filmed? Kelly Bates? And most recently Whitney Bates was filmed in the hospital. I don't think filming is the issue.

Anonymous said...

I agree! Your last statement really hit the nail on the head. I could not believe when JB and John Robert took Ben and Derrick out rock climbing and he said that he needed to see if they were good enough to become Duggars! If I were Ben's parents or Derrick's mother or brother, I'd be livid!!!!!

Anonymous said...

I think I read somewhere that it was due to cost savings, I mean I don't know where josh would have insurance from at the time it was just his car shop. If it's for the part about being a man seeing her lady bits I'm sure he wasn't having impure thoughts with a baby barrelin out of it. At least spring for a midwife with a degree, otherwise I'm sure michelle has more experience in that department and it would be free.

Anonymous said...

Anna did have an hours dive to the midwife's house for Marcus's delivery. The worst part was that they had to wait at home for Michelle to arrive before leaving their home for the midwife's home. Anna kept asking Josh "when is your mom going to get here?" Again as has ben mentioned many times, there was no reason to wait for Michelle, as she was not going to stay at Josh & Anna's house to babysit Mac & Michael that was Jinger & Joy's job. The only reason Michelle was there was so she could say in a talking head segment that she had been present for the births of all 3 of her grandchildren. The hell with Anna's mom, Mrs. Keller. Believe me Michelle will be front & center for the birth of Jill's baby even though she appears to be insanely jealous of Jill's pregnancy. But there is no way that Michelle will allow Derick's mom, Cathy (even though she is ill with cancer) to see that baby first. Michelle is a jealous witch. Feel free to change the first letter to a "B."
As far as Josh & Anna going without licensed midwife or certified medical personal with the birth of their first child, money definitely was never an issue. Anna had been under the care of a good OB/GYN who was out of town when Anna went into labor. It would then have involved a male DR delivering her baby. Josh definitely didn't want any male, even a DR, to see Anna's "lady parts." That's how Josh was raised & it was only a year or so that he was out of his parents home so that's the way he was thinking. Although we all know that Michelle has had male DR's for emergency deliveries. Just one more example of how this family says one thing & does another.

Anonymous said...

I am looking forward to Jilly Muffin pushing out a baby for TLC! Hey, she is getting paid for it!

Maybe they can use some of their earnings and take some public speaking classes. Ben and Derick sound ridiculous.

Anonymous said...

RE: Anonymous 2/23@11:19am Anna's first home delivery had nothing to do with cost as she was already under the care of a licensed physician & had been seen by the DR from the beginning of her pregnancy. They had an ultrasound done by DR Sarver & were seen by her on a regular basis. I remember the Duggars were away at "Big Sandy" home school conference & Jim Bob seemed vey surprised when Josh told him over the phone that they were considering a home birth. Jim Bob said he was putting Michelle & Jill on a plane home right away & Josh said "tell that plane to hurry up." Jim Bob then announced that the family would pray for them. Michelle & Jill arrived just as Mac was being born. MS Theresa (a doula?) was there & family friend MS Query. As far as Michelle being knowledgeable about labor & delivery (even after all her labor & deliveries) with Michael's birth she kept saying Anna was doing beautifully & the baby would be born any minute. It was more than 20 hours later that Michael was born. So Michelle wasn't exactly on target with that labor & delivery.

Anonymous said...

Remember when the family went out in public and they would say Nike and they all had to look down to avoid seeing someone not dressed to their standards? Derrick works at Walmart, I wonder if he has to wear blinders, lol

Anonymous said...

Looks like something is filming at the Duggar house today. Lots of pink and blue birds in the front yard. Maybe a gender reveal episode?

Missy said...

I also remember well Josh's statement; "I think WE can do this ourselves." Just exactly what part of "We" actually involved Josh? I didn't see him suffering with labor pains or the delivery. It's one thing if you have qualified medical personal there, but you had a very young inexperienced couple who apparently thought they knew everything about "birthin a baby." I've always felt that they were more than a little fortunate that both Anna & the baby survived. They didn't have a clue what they were doing.

Anonymous said...

Still can't understand why Anna didn't go to a hospital to deliver Mac in any case. No need at all to deliver at home; she didn't come too quickly; Anna had plenty of time..

Anonymous said...

Ok while we are on the topic of Anna and Josh and the first delivery, did anyone else barf a little lot when Anna pushed out Mackynzie and repeatedly 'thanked' Josh for the child? 'Oh thank you, thank you' she cooed at her big man...really? Just what the hell did HE do? Besides the 10 second shot?

Anonymous said...

I remember Josh and Anna's babies first visit to the pediatrician. It was days after they were all born. I think it not wise to deliver at home and wait days for the infant to be checked out. There could be something of concern that is not visible to the naked eye and that child could be at risk for days. It would not be easy for a new mother who has just delivered, without a neat episiotomy to have to get in the car and take the baby to the doctor. Just not the best thing for the baby, either, IMO.
Does anyone know if ANY of the Duggar children, from Josh on down to Marcus is vaccinated? They show the first visits, but not any immunizations for Josh's kids. I wonder if Michelle thought it necessary for her kids since they don't go to school and hang out with sinning heathens.

Anonymous said...

I hope sincerely, that we don't have to sit through another episode devoted to gender reveal...we all know it's a boy. Even if we didn't a whole episode is a waste..we really don't care THAT much.

Anonymous said...

Oh, sorry, the gender reveal could be Anna's. Still, I don't care enough to sit through a whole episode for that information. Still not that interested...it will be either a boy or a girl. How exciting! I bet the Kellers aren't invited.

Anonymous said...

We know the kids never had the immunization for Chicken Pox as at least half of them had serious cases of Chicken Pox when it was time for premie Josie to finally come home. That immunization has been available for many years as my kids had it when they were small & are adults now. We did see Josie given some immunizations but that might be because of her premature birth. They never said anything about the older kids

Anonymous said...

Now I am too wondering if Josh on down to Marcus is vaccinated? They travel all over the country and overseas!

Sharla said...

Please remember we will not have a birth debate. You can talk about Anna's and Jill's choices, but not generalized one type birth vs another. Thank you! This is not a mommy board. :)

Anonymous said...

I'll bet all the kids have had the MMR vaccination because measles is SO dangerous to unborn children.

Anonymous said...

If they didn't before I'm sure they got them before Josie came home, or rather I hope.

Anonymous said...

Some vaccinations are required by law to travel overseas as the Duggars have done in the past few years.

Sharla said...

One more try - comments attempting to not discuss the upcoming births but to engage in a home birth vs hospital birth are subject to be rejected or deleted. This is not a mommy board or a proper place for that debate.

Anonymous said...

I just saw the post about the pink and blue. Makes me wonder if someone's having twins -maybe a boy and a girl? If the filming is today I would suppose it's Anna. I wonder just how many gender reveals we'll be subjected to by these " stars"

Anonymous said...

Funny, how Jana was at the Waller gender reveal, but the grandparents, the Kellers, were NOT. I'm certain they'll be absent or "uninvited" again. Don't these people count?

Anonymous said...

Anna having twins because of the pink and blue birds..that's not necessarily true. Priscilla had her decorations in those colors also as to not give it away until the actual "reveal".

Anonymous said...

Does Michelle ever have a mother/daughter talk with her girls regarding their wedding nights and what to expect in the future? We know Jim Bob had a talk with Josh! To go from purity emotionally to full on sexual adult relationship in just a few hours has to be traumatizing.

Patrice said...

It's pretty funny how Anna could not be seen by a male doctor to deliver...one male, in the privacy of a hospital room, but she could give birth on the toilet at home, in front of a whole crew of cameramen, producers, directors, lighting people etc. And then a million or so people- maybe a quarter of those are men-watched it on TV. Think, Anna, think! And yes, I thought it was heartbreaking when the poor girl was in such pain she couldn't stand it anymore, but foolish Joshie and his pea-brained mother just kept saying "You can do it, you can do it!" I felt SOOOOO bad for her and I don't even like any of them!These people really don't use the brains God gave them...

Anonymous said...

sorry but derrick needs to man up and take charge of this family before Jilly muffin takes over and he wakes up to have five kids in five years. and why is jill driving him to work?

Leigh Ann said...

I don't think filming would be a big issue in picking a homebirth over a hospital. TLC had that whole Baby Story series and most of them were hospital deliveries. Michelle has had several hospital deliveries and so did the Bates DIL. And Anna's first delivery was supposed to be at the hospital. I do think Anna is not given a lot of choice, though. She was terrified that Marcus was going to drown during the waterbirth. It looks to me like she was pressured into something she didn't want. With no family support close by for the this pregnancy I really hope she has a hospital birth or if she really wants another homebirth it's done properly with a highly qualified licensed midwife and they way she wants it done.

hello said...

The advice Michelle gives to her daughters is to submit to their husbands and never say no. The girls have been trained since birth that their sole purpose in life is to have Daddy find them a husband and then have as many kids as possible.

Anonymous said...

Yes Jim Bob had: "The Talk," with Josh...remember sex was compared to "legos."

misti c said...

Is it me, or does it seem like Jill planned her wedding around her menstrual cycle so that she would be fertile around her wedding date?

Elspeth said...

No, Jill didn't plan the wedding for ovulation. Based on her due date, she scheduled it for day 3, 4, or 5 of her cycle.

Anonymous said...

You know what was nice? No JimBob for these 2 episodes!

BTW - Josh and Anna could have just changed their minds and decided to wait until Jill was pregnant. Not everything is a conspiracy.

Jill L said...

I think there are posed to hospital births because there are men there. There could be a male Dr, nurse, or attendant on duty that may see them in an immodest position.

Elspeth said...

I'm not sure the male doctor or attendants is the problem when they have men on the film crew filming the home birth.

Anonymous said...

Watching last weeks episode where Jessa and Ben are discussing the menu, did anyone notice the look on his face when she said, ice cream and hot dogs and he said, hot dogs? Priceless..

Carol said...

Elspeth - you're right! There is no ban on male doctors here if the film crew is seeing everything. (How awful for them but it's a job).

CannedSoup said...

Jill and Derick need to keep both hands on the steering wheel when they are driving. They seem more concerned with holding hands than being alert drivers.

Mary said...

any bets which letter Jill will be picking for the names of her children Maybe A B

Anonymous said...

So MS Query is finally going to become a trained & certified midwife. She has participated in Duggar births before this training but Jill said she is now doing her student training. Hard to believe she has waited this long to train to be a midwife. I believe she is a widow & would think she would want a profession where she could make a salary. Of course I'm sure she didn't get paid for all she did for the Duggars. Hopefully she will now be able to help her children with income from the midwife profession.

Anonymous said...

None of these kids can speak clearly and they are all so immature. Im guessing because they have never been out in the real world and schooling is not done properly, they dont even mention school, but jill was tutoring one of them with preschool flash cards

sandi said...

I'm guessing Jill will chose D names,for Derick.Maybe the first will be a Jr. after him.

Anonymous said...

I bet jills son will named richard james

Stephanie said...

Yes, remember the Keller relative that said it was producer driven scene? They will do anything for a buck

I didn't like Ben walking in front of Jessaninto church office. Pet peeve of mine along with wearing baseball hats indoors. Its rude and for people who pride themselves on self control they forget simple manners.
Jessa wanted pews? Well ok i guess.
Josh did invitations ok minus that from Jimbobs 20 grand bill.

Ginger doing the Gothard approved photos but why did they need chaperones?

Bens clothes looked un ironed and old and cheap. Earth to Jessa, kissing pics are tacky and I don't think many people use that for engagement pics.
I guess cowboy boots are better than flip flops.
Jana hated the bridesmaid dresses. At least Jana spoke up
Honestly it only looked good on Ginger because she's so skinny.





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Stephanie said...

How many little siblings will be hanging around Jill's house when she's sleep deprived with a newborn? My guess, Michelle will have to give up Jana or Ginger to help out Jill. Also is Jill going to still be bored enough to drive.hubby to work and back when she has to pack a baby with her every day twice a day? Poor Joy, Jessa and Jill gone, Jana and or Ginger helping out Jill and soon Jessa as needed. All the extra work will fall on Joy. Maybe Joy can stay with a sister and newborn, it would be easier than taking care of Josie thru Jackson plus the cooking, teaching and helping grandma witj laundry.

Have you noticed not only has Josiah not.been filmed (for whatever reason) Grandma slabinuin laundry room hasn't been shown either because of all the negative attention it has caused.

Anonymous said...

I noticed that, too. Very unsafe. You think she'd be especially cautious now that she's pregnant. Constantly hanging on to Derrick is just ridiculous!!!

Anonymous said...

Oh, I hate to think of the schooling they get. Sometimes when I feel like complaining about all the things my own kids' grade school wants me to do to help them, make sure they read each evening, check their homework, time their practice tests, help with the science project poster, etc. etc. and that's on top of their 6+ hrs at school. Those Duggar kids must be so so so far behind because it seems they never do any of this stuff. I just feel so bad for them sometimes.

Anonymous said...

Is there any chance that Anna will have a baby in the hospital this time since they are in Maryland and away from family?

By the way, it is annoying that they are always crowing about how they are "in DC" but their area is in southern Maryland. Those are two completely different places.

I am wondering if she'll have a hospital birth since Josh works for the hate group and likely has decent insurance now.

We'll see!

Anonymous said...

Hi,I am wondering if Derrick smokes I thought he threw something out of his mouth he the got to the midwifes barn no big deal but my husband smokes and he throws cigarette's out of the same way ,just asking .

Anonymous said...

I don't remember which boy Jill was "teaching", but the flash cards seems very immature for his age. He looked to be about twelve, but I think the flash card said 12-11. That's kindergarten, *maybe* first grade math. Certainly not math a preteen should be doing. Even if it was multiplication, that's still a significant delay in where he should be with his studies.

Anonymous said...

I noticed Jill tutoring James with "flash cards" as well. Those are to be used with much younger children. If anyone remembers James is the one that would never settle down to his school work with Michelle. Always going upstairs to find his book or telling Michelle he had already done his work. I know many thought he had Attention Deficit Disorder. He definitely could not sit still but then some of the other boys display the same disorder. Again, Anna's home births have nothing whatever to do with Josh having health insurance, they never did. The first time it was simply because Dr Sarver could not be there for the delivery & it would most likely be a male Dr covering for her. The second time with Michael, we never saw Anna go to a Dr or a midwife during her pregnancy. All we ever saw was Anna, Josh & Michelle going to some storefront place called: "What's Kicking," where they found out the gender of the baby. Michelle was chosen to keep the gender a secret until the plane revealed it. They never mentioned with Michael what they were going to do for the delivery. Guess Josh & Anna just figured they had done it themselves with Mac, so they could do another delivery at home with the help of MS Query,(who was not even a student midwife then) Michelle & Jill. The third time, with Marcus I think we heard & saw all about the midwife because of Jill's career as a midwife & Jana tagging along as a soon to be "doula." A long involved explanation of why they have either home births or delivery at the midwife's facility, which appears to just be her home. I will always maintain it had nothing to do with health insurance. We know Kelly Bates goes to the hospital without insurance.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Some vaccinations are required by law to travel overseas as the Duggars have done in the past few years.

The only immunization that is required is Yellow Fever, which is needed for some sub-Saharan African countries, and some South American countries. Muslims traveling to the Haaj are required to be vaccinated for meningitis, but I'm sure the Duggars won't ever be doing that! LOL

Anonymous said...

It's sad if the ine boy does have any learning disabilties than he will never be able to work and adapt and thrive
inspite of them.
Also I almost spit my coffee out when Jessa mentioned her wedding attendants. She mentioned friends besides her sisters and future sister in laws.
Are they the Bates girls? I never knew of any friends
any of them had on their own.
Wonder since the friends are appearing on TLC if they were considered extras on union pay scale....LOL

Anonymous said...

Jill should watch the show where Whitney Bates gave birth in a hospital. She will see her pain before the decision to have an epidural and her relief after the epidural....Jill just needs to get out of the backwoods of Arkansas and get educated. She has seen other women go through natural childbirth but she is in for a real shock when she tries it....

Anonymous said...

No, Derick is not a smoker. When he opened up the door to let Jilly Muffin out, he reached in his mouth and grabbed his wad of gum and "discreetly" tossed it into the yard they pulled into. Sorry, Derick, but it wasn't that discreet. Proves to me that you are human, but I'm sure Ms. Muffin would never do such a thing!

Anonymous said...

If I had pulled up to a Midwife's office that looked like that dirty unsanitary shack, I'd have driven away and not gone in. But thank you TLC for showing us the Dept of Health certificate on the wall. Made me feel so much better. NOT

Anonymous said...

Why did they telephone Dericks brother to tell him
About being. Uncle and Skype his mom? I'd didn't think either one of them lived that far away? I think his mom was surprised. She said something that made her think This was all about one month Annivesary.

Anonymous said...

Jessa is a brat

Watch when she passes out the dresses to her sisters and a little one reaches out tours still packaged dresses on Jessa's lap. She pulled them away and made a I'm gonna hurt ha if ya touch these. It happens fast! Then the episode is spliced together to edit out whatever happened next. This is right after Jessa says be brave to her sisters.

Anonymous said...

Cruel, but I never noticed until recently how unattractive Derrick is, he looks very aged. Or maybe that's the new Duggar lifestyle at work.
Jill needs to release her deathgrip on him, nobody is going to steal him. Maybe she's afraid of having to yell Nike. I always found that so lame.

Anonymous said...

I want to know where Josiah is? He has not been featured in a long time. Where are you Josiah?

Judy said...

i think it's actually quite typical in this culture to deliver at home and it can be as safe as the hospital. I don't think there's much to read into...

Laughing at how Mrs Query, a family friend, is working on her midwife training. Wasn't Mrs. Q also tutoring the kids or teaching them piano or violin or something, at some point? It all kind of blends together...

I felt sorry for Derrick when Jill said she wanted to drive him back and forth to work so she could spend more time with him. Yikes!

I bet the gender reveal party is for Josh and Anna. It makes sense with Anna's due date.


Anonymous said...

Thank you that No, Derrick is not a smoker just asking ,he is human LOL thank you

Anonymous said...

I get annoyed by their attitude that male health care workers aren't "allowed" to care for them. We are professionals, and as a professional we don't look at patients 'that way'. When I am treating a patient, I respect their dignity and privacy. I think these people are the ones with dirty minds.

Anonymous said...

I think the flashcards Jill was using were multiplication. I work in an after school program and we use multiplication/division flash cards for our middle school kids.

Wampascat said...

I believe Josiah is , uh, being , uh, re-programmed.

Anonymous said...

Spend more time with him? Why doesnt she spend time with him when he gets home from work in the evenings....like normal couples? She doesn't work evenings right? How bout weekends? This every day lunch thing is weird and immature! Shes afraid he might eat lunch in the walmart break room! He might talk to another woman!! Yikes! She is very insecure and acts like we all did at twelve and thirteen with our very first little boyfriends in jr. High!! Just another example the DAMAGE THE DUGGAR LIFESTYLE DOES TO PEOPLE once they are grown! They call it higher standards.....i call it severe emotional abuse and holding children back and raising them afraid of the world and EVEN DISTRUSTFUL OF THEIR MATES

Anonymous said...

Derrick is smothering in duggar style "love". I dont think he saw it coming he was all wrapped up in the excitement and the romance of the meeting and the filming and the cameras and "going to be on tv" and all of it. I think he was appreciative of finding a virgin girl......but had NO IDEA THE DEGREE OF the extreme gothard beleifs! And how clingy and IMMATURE JILL WOULD BE! betcha he NEVER EXPECTED HER TO TOTE HIS LUNCH AND DRIVE HIM TO WORK AND HAVE THAT DEATH GRIP ON HIS ARM AND OPEN FOOD,MOUTH KISS HIM!! This i guarantee you he has discovered after the big wedding.just goes to show....dont RUSH INTO MARRIAGE especially with immature girls with zero life experience! It is possible to find virgins who are mature and know themselves and why they are waiting......and not because it was a forced cult lifestyle and the rules of your parents

Anonymous said...

I keep remembering Jilly Muffin at her dental appointment, crying to to Papa Jim Bob and needing medication. It just doesn't coincide with the pregnant Jilly Muffin who says she's having a home birth with NO meds!! It's so mean, but I'm with those of you who can't wait to see this!!!

Anonymous said...

I actually think Derick is very attractive, and a solid, decent youn man. I also believe Jill got lucky bc he could do so much better. She made a comment in Nepal when she first met him that sounded as if she wasn't too attracted to him, and she should really check herself bc he is very nice looking and every time she opens her mouth, she is ALL GUMS!

Anonymous said...

So I am wondering something after watching this episode....WHY did Joy & Hannie have to chaperone the photo shoot, if Jinger was already there? Is she not an acceptable chaperone anymore because of the full frontal hug she "condoned" between the courting couple afrer Ben proposed? That was Jinger there, right? Wow...

Anonymous said...

I think he is kind of attractive, but I think what makes him a really good catch is he is educated & more worldly than she will ever be, looks aside. She's a sweet girl I guess but reminds me of myself at 14

Anonymous said...

RE: Immunizations to travel overseas. My daughter travels overseas often & there are many more immunizations required than just for yellow fever. I know definitely smallpox is one of the top ones.

Anonymous said...

I bet your right, one of those kids did say we have to make sure they dont do things they shouldn't. Another comment from Ben was we are 'trying' to save our first kiss for marriage, that was interesting.

Willow said...

I am going to try to say this as politely as possible, but Jessa really showed her true colors during this episode. I know its an ego trip to have a show wrapped around your wedding and the modeling of wedding dresses, but really? Her smugness and mean-ness was just over-the-top. I was shocked, even for Jessa, how arrogant her talking segments were. I shouldn't have been, however, as I well remember how hateful she was to Hannie about taking a nap once. Anyone could have a bad day, but this is, apparently, the real Jessa and it is not pretty at all.

Rudy Tecat said...

It must be that Gothard has decided that women are to give birth at home, preferably with a midwife/doula since there are no Gothard-trained women doctors (which would be impossible, unless the AMA would accept training over the internet). One must keep everything within the Gothard clan if possible, even if it risks the lives of the mother and child.

Anonymous said...

Has anyone looked at the Benton and Washington county assessor's sites, using simply the last name duggar? It is public record. I'd love to know which is the house for the mansion where the princess lives. Wonder how far the mansion is from derickdillards work address where she escorts him to and retrieves him from at the end of the day. One must wonder how many miles a day she is on the road ( how much of her day is spent watching him) since she also delivers his lunch and makes him get in the vehicle with her so he can't enjoy time getting to know ANY co-workers. Can't take a chance on him hearing from anyone that her control is just plain wrong.

Anonymous said...

I wonder how much dating poor Derick ever did. Has anyone heard of anyone who said they went on a date with him in high school? How about on college? Oklahoma State is a big school. Surely he had one date somewhere.... If not he might believe Jill 's controlling him is normal.

Anonymous said...

Derick doesn't have to worry about public speaking. Any sentence he starts about any subject his controlling wife will jump in to finish. She may have the equivalency of a middle school education, while he has a real college education.....but she has been speaking on television much longer so that makes her the expert.

Anonymous said...

Maybe they believe 12-11 is high school math and are real proud that they are all so smart doing high school 'rithmetic and all as home schoolers. They are also public speakers, you know since they speak in public...and have a concert pianist because she has played in front of others.... And Jill delivered lots of babies when she did NOT. John-David is a non-paid constable. Jim bob has commercial real estate (lol....have you seen it? Looks like old chicken coops

Anonymous said...

Jill is so far behind yet she tries to educate her siblings using her own sad skills

Anonymous said...

I notice that Derick doesn't look healthy. Maybe it's because the happiness looks so forced. I think he is a sweet man who just got sucked into something so wrong by simply reaching out to Jim Bob to
pray with him.

Anonymous said...

Jill is so far behind yet she tries to educate her siblings using her own sad skills

Stephanie said...

I blame Bens parents for his mess. 1. They drove down there for Ben to meet her at "church". He was probably crushing watching the tv show and they are close etc.
2. Bens parents didn't object publicly to Ben moving on the Duggar compound and living in a warehouse with no bathroom etc .
3. They didn't encourage him to continue education and career..
I don't know how to to explain it but my son is the same age and if he wanted to get married my husband and I would GO OFF on him and try to talk sense to him


Stephanie said...

I have been curious regarding Ben and De ricks romantic past. Ben is a very good looking kid and I firmly believe he has kissed girls in his teen years.

D erick is 25 years old and I certainly hope he has kissed a girl at some point in his twenty five years. Four years at college and never been kissed?

Both couples say "our first kiss" to me that speaks volumes. The boys never said it was their personal first kiss.

I still believe Jessa and Ben kissed before marriage which is why it was left out of the ceremony. Lets wait and see what speech is given.

Watching Erin Bates first kiss at least the preacher did the talking Girl didn't go up their for a controlling declaration. Kellar di with Anna and Jimbob did with Jim.

Gill and Kelly aren't perfect but I notice little things like that.

Stephanie said...

Derick and Ben should have taken public speaking. Its required for degrees and Ben has an Associates degree.

How do you all know Derick works at Walmart? What does he do? Isn't he an accountant? My husband is a Cpa and made sure he passed state exams before our wedding to get certified. Maybe Derick isn't certified yet.

Stephanie said...

He is a good looking as Jill. And Jimbob so rudely pointed out in Nepal that Michelle could have had anyone including someone better looking than him or a football player etc. JIMBOB pretty much said " Derick isn't good looking but he has a reallu good heart and servant to him I mean God".
What a put down. Its when they are shopping in Nepal

Stephanie said...

Since everyone is debated why Anna did the midwife hour a way for Marcus this is what I think happened.

Remember Jill and Jana were "training" this ks before Derick came around.

The producers wanted Anna's birth to be connected to the girls having a "career". Adding Anna's birth to the D girls was probably requested by production and Josh is tv savvy remember? It had to so with $ and the tv show

Anonymous said...

The producers wanted Anna's birth to be connected to the girls having a "career". Adding Anna's birth to the D girls was probably requested by production

The midwife Anna used wasn't the one Jill was training with, though. There was no connection to Jill.

Carol said...

What really struck me about the episode was the staging of the church - the type of lighting to be used, etc. There's always Theatrical element to a wedding but I felt like this was worthy of broadway. All we did for my wedding was pick flower arrangements for the alter. If I had asked the priest for purple up lighting he would have laughed at me.

Anonymous said...

Im getting tired of the show, we already know everything about that wedding and what they wore. I dont get the time line with TLC or that they signed with magazines to put it all out there way before the epidode airs. I liked it better when it wasn't out in the open, makes the shows boring and predictable

Anonymous said...

The show is very boring now, I rarely watch, especially when I can read about it in magazines or here! Lol wonder if that is backfiring on the duggars in terms of ratings?
I liked it a lot better when their show was random specials like way back when it was 14 kids and expecting

Anonymous said...

Shout out to Willow.

Jessa's true self sure did make an appearance in tis episode. Mean. Selfish. Jealous.

Sharla said...

No more comments about immunizations required for overseas. It has nothing to do with the episode under discussion. Thank you!

Anonymous said...

"Jessa's true self sure did make an appearance in tis episode. Mean. Selfish. Jealous"

Actually to me she seemed actually a normal sister. Not all fakey and smiley. Well, a normal maybe 13 yr old. The way you'd tell a little sister, hands off my stuff, or rolling your eyes at your older sister's ideas and trying to be different. So it makes her a more normal sister (to me), but as she should have been acting at a much younger age.

Anonymous said...

That picture of Jill when they were doing the ultra sound was very unattractive. I'd have asked that they not show that EVER.

Anonymous said...

I hadn't heard anything about Derick's step-dad; just haven't seen him much.

Anonymous said...

I'd love to see.Derick's desk. I imagine it being full of pictures Jill had framed of her and of her and him so anytime he looks up he is reminded of her.

Anonymous said...

I hope Jessa waits until Jill gets pregnant again with dilly #2 (April?) then Jessa announces hers. Actually I do hope she doesn't rush things. Jill is the one who rushes things because she likes to steal Jessa's thunder.

Anonymous said...

Jessa referred to Josh as being a "graphic designer" when she was talking about him doing their wedding invitations. Is this yet another self-imposed title? I'm pretty sure he didn't study graphic design?

Anonymous said...

When Jessa stated that she saw blush colored wedding dresses in magazines, I couldn't help but ask, "What magazines?" I thought they weren't allowed to read any secular periodicals...don't those bridal magazines have articles about honeymoon "stuff", birth control, and other ungodly things?

Anonymous said...

I am just wondering why Jill isn't using the mid wife she trained under. Is that not allowed? Or is she still training as a midwife?

Anonymous said...

Re: I'd love to see.Derick's desk. I imagine it being full of pictures Jill had framed of her and of her and him so anytime he looks up he is reminded of her.

All I thought of was frames made of macaroni and glitter..like kindergarten!

Allison said...

Jessa referred to Josh as being a "graphic designer" when she was talking about him doing their wedding invitations. Is this yet another self-imposed title? I'm pretty sure he didn't study graphic design?

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She also said they had a photographer and a seamstress in the family. Clearly those aren't their jobs either. I think she meant it more like it was something they were skilled at (not sure about Josh, but Jinger is definitely a talented photographer).

Anonymous said...

Benton County public records show that the home in which Jill & Derrick reside is 4398 sqft., and the county's assessed value is $425,250. Yearly property tax is $4500. Jim Boob purchased the home for $95,000 back in 2012.

Anonymous said...

Re: some of the pretentious titles the Duggars bestow on one abother.....in the video of Ben and Jessa's home Ben has some very nice artwork. I could see fans purchasing some of his work. (no, they were not even hinting at selling it....that was just my thought as a way for them to make their own money and be set free of the
Duggar stronghold.

Anonymous said...

Yes Jessa is a talented photographer. Too bad she can't go to a great school to be even better....but why should she since she is only going to use the talent within the clan for all of their engagements and baby pic. Sad that their talents are wasted.

Anonymous said...

When you looked Benton County records did you happen to look at that address and see how far it is for Jilly Muffin to make three round trips a day to walmart corporate where Derickdillard works?

Anonymous said...

Re: Jills house....is that the one they call Stoneybrook? I wonder who paid for all the renovations since it was filmed by TLC.

Wampascat said...

Josh, a graphic designer? My sister-in-law has been a graphic designer at 3M for many years and it takes a degree, talent and training. Just because Josh can fiddle fart around with Adobe Acrobat doesn't make him jack squat.

Anonymous said...

Re: The comment about derickdillard needing to man up before jilly muffin takes over......


Too late. She already took over when she declared she thought she was in love with someone she never met... The poor guy was on the other side of the world yet she showed up there. Now she stalks the poor guy by being the man of the family and driving him to and from where he needs to go ( to
work) and taking an ol baked potato to himodor his lunch so she had a legitimate excuse to be on the company property for an hour.

Anonymous said...

Re: the awkward looking handholding as Jill Dillard chauffeurs around her best friend/husband..

If one would want to report this dangerous act do they call constable John-David, who happens to be the sibling of said unsafe driver?

Anonymous said...

Re: Jim Bob pointing out that Derick Had a really good heart which had a rude implication.

Well, first of all many people think his golden child looks just like Derick ( and maybe that is what Jim Bob thought when he arranged that marriage). Since they do look alike for him to imply that maybe Derick wasn't very attractive shows he knows his golden daughter isn't. Is that why he throws everything into making the offer more enticing.....I give you big house, fame, money....you marry her.

Anonymous said...

Re: jilly making a comment in Nepal that she wasn't too atracted to Derickdilard. How absolutely rude of her. she was VERY lucky to get
Jim even if her dad finally found a willing guy even if he had to find him way around the world. And the way she tries to keep an eye on him she might realize she better hang on for dear life so he can't get away.


Anonymous said...

Re: Josh being a graphic designer.....

Did I understand correctly that he did both of his sister's wedding invitations? And that they were a lot alike. No originality?

Anonymous said...

re: I bet Jill's son will be named Richard James.

Please I hope not. Richard is fine but please pick a different middle name. Jim Bob's head will be so big it will explode because he has so many other people named after him.

Anonymous said...

They are not allowed to work or go to school once they are married. Their job is to be a wife, as you need to be there whenever your husband desires. Please note this is heavy with sarcasm

Anonymous said...

As a health care worker I agree. I have never heard of a doctor or nurse getting turned on by a patient. Especially when they are birthing. However I would like to add, if they don't feel education is needed, especially for girls how do they expect people to receive health care. If they will only see a female health care worker, yet women can't go to college how does this make sense

Anonymous said...

Re: naming the baby Richard

I hope they don't name him that since they tend to give nicknames. I know way too many named Richard who are called "dick"

Melissa said...

RE: When you looked Benton County records did you happen to look at that address and see how far it is for Jilly Muffin to make three round trips a day to walmart corporate where Derickdillard works?

In one of the shows this week there was a graphic at the bottom and I think it said Jill drives 100 miles/week to and from Derick's work. So 20 miles per day. Using the address on the Benton County assessor site, the Dillard home is about 4.5 miles away from the WM corporate offices...

Anonymous said...

RE: Anonymous 2/26@9:24pm
I too have never heard a word about Josh being a "graphic designer." Also never heard that he did Jill's wedding invitations. Also don't these people realize that we know you need both education & training to become a graphic designer. You also definitely need to have a certain ability towards design. You cannot just pick up any old pencil & start designing at least not on a professional level. It's amazing the jobs these Duggar kids can do with no training or education in that field.
In this past weeks episode Derick was still referring to Jill as; "a midwife." I bet the rest of the family is too.

Anonymous said...

Re: Naming Jill's baby Richard James. I know it's more than a long shot, but wouldn't ole Jim Bob just have a fit if they named the baby after Derick's "stepdad." I know it won't happen, but would love to see Jim Bob react to that.

Stephanie said...

I refer to Mac's birth episode as the infamous "baby juices" episode. Michael's "toilet baby" and Marcus one hour drive needs a reference name but there are so many choices for example the "van of pain ride" or "hour long seatbelt of pain" or "chiddbirh on Duggar Time" because Michelle was so inconsiderate being late while Anna was begging to leave. Why did Michelle have to ride with them? They have a million cars Ginger could have driven herself to Josh and Michelle drive herself an hour to midwife or any arrangements could have been made to suit ANNA not TLC or Michelle or Jimbob . I can picture Michelle, early in the morning crunching her hair giving the little girls cereal out trying to drag Jimbob out of his slumber while Anna was crying at home telling Josh "call your mom again" that might be a good title for that episode in t-shirt the first time I ever saw Anna get a tiny bit bossy with Josh.

Ultimately, they drove an hour so Jill could be featured as a midwife at the real Moore's house.

By the way, when Jill and Derick pull into their first appointment at midwife, TLC made sure it looked like an Appalachian shack with the oil tanks and terrible looking porches. The outside looks nothing like the inside.

We need reference title for Marcus birth. One that describes it. "Anna suffers for Jill's fake 'career'.

As predicted as soon as she found a man no more school and no more books the fake career is gone just like College Plus

Stephanie said...

Josie took two tries and used her fingers to count to ten, well ok I will giver her s break everyone has a bad day she's a baby. However, she had dirty, grubby, little hands when sbe held her count up. Jana is her mother, and Michelle is her second mama there are 9 adults in the house and that kids hands were that nasty when they had an interview scheduled?

That poor baby (who is five but that's still little) can't even grow hair on her head for goodness sake help her wash her hands. She keeps her fingers in her mouth constantly when she is sitting still (dress shop) after all a persons mouth is the dirtiest/germyest part of the human body

Willow said...

As far as everyone referring to Jill being a "midwife" on the show: That just gets me SO mad. She is not one, that we know of, until they tell us specifically she got her license. This is not just something you generalize, is it? It refers to a medical license.

I think the same can be said for calling Jana a "concert pianist", although I am not sure they really understood what they were doing with that one. I mean, don't they know Erin Paine has a degree and is still not considered a concert pianist?

As far as Jinger being a "photographer", I think you can actually be considered one if you are doing that job and people request your work, or have the opinion your work is good. I am not sure there is an actual license, per se, is there? Someone can let me know what is legally required to receive pay for taking photos. I think that is loosely used as a reference to the person who took your wedding/graduation/whatever pictures for you. In other words, it is more loosely accepted. Do you actually have to have a business license and get paid for taking pics to be called a photographer? Do we know if Jinger ever received pay for this? i.e., if you take pictures, you are a photographer; if you get paid for same, you are a professional photographer?

As far as Josh being a "graphic designer", I think that was just wrong word usage. Everyone knows Josh doesn't have a degree in graphic design. My step-son went to college for 5 yrs to get a degree as a graphic designer. However, these days, just about anyone can go on a computer and make wedding invitations. I pretty much think the Duggars are just ignorant (I mean uneducated) about these things. The one that is just "totally" unacceptable is the one about Jill. They all know darn well she is NOT a real midwife yet and to call her so is misleading about a serious issue. (Rant over, sorry). Cheers for the day!!

Virginia said...

I would like to see Jill and Derick name the baby after his dad.

nwi said...

Richard Robert... Dickie Bob!!!

GF Baker said...

Stephanie said...

Josie took two tries and used her fingers to count to ten, well ok I will giver her s break everyone has a bad day she's a baby. However, she had dirty, grubby, little hands when sbe held her count up. Jana is her mother, and Michelle is her second mama there are 9 adults in the house and that kids hands were that nasty when they had an interview scheduled?

That poor baby (who is five but that's still little) can't even grow hair on her head for goodness sake help her wash her hands. She keeps her fingers in her mouth constantly when she is sitting still (dress shop) after all a persons mouth is the dirtiest/germyest part of the human body

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I remember that when I saw that episode, I thought that her palms looked like someone that had eaten to many carrots or orange vegetables.

It could also be a clue that she has health issues going on. Discolored palms can be a sign that something is wrong with kidneys, diabetes, liver or thyroid. (if one or more of those are going on it could possibly be the reason for seizures.)

Most of the Gothardites I have come across have no curiosity of learning......it is just really sad.

Wampascat said...

Jill is a midwife in the sense that she has attended some births. She is in no way certified or fully accredited, nor will she ever be so. She has merely read a few books and watched a few episodes of Little House On the Prairie. That is the bulk of her studies. The Duggars love to give themselves grandiose titles because after all, they are better, smarter, richer and holier than all of us!!!

zebracrossing said...

RE: Stephanie-"We need a reference title for Marcus's birth"

How about " Pool (don't let him drown) birth"

Grace said...

Since Josh was present at his childrens' births, does that make him a "midwife" too?

Grace said...

I second "Pool Birth"...good thinking, I like that!

Lovethesnow said...

Re: naming the Dillard child after Derick's dad....

From what I have found ( obituary in the Stillwater NewsPress.... (Stillwater, OK is where OSU is) his name was Rick, not Richard. On everything I can find it shows he used only his middle initial--W--instead of giving his middle name.

Maybe the child would be named Rick.

Your thoughts? said...

Re: Jill claims to be a midwife.

Remember her birthday lunch where she said she got a ticket for speeding to get to a birth? I wish Arkansas had casenet like some states, such as MO and AR so we could see if she was telling the truth or if that was to make us think she was so important to the delivery of the baby.

Gag me with a spoon said...

Re: the comment about they don't have jobs because their job is to be there whenever your husband desires.....

Like on the mini-golf course?

Your thoughts? said...

Re: the midwife Anna used was not from Jill's group......

Hmmmm.....that seems quite telling if Anna was not comfortable using them and was willing to travel a ways to avoid them.

Also, didn't Jill's leader make her wedding cake and also have the
shower?

Michael in texas said...

Did anyone catch it when Derrick was discussing Jill's,cooking and it slipped out about her or others having to grab food and eat it in the bathroom because of all the siblings/kids and if u wanted food u would have to eat it in the bathroom. I wonder how many more of these dark secrets there is. That's why josh blew up like a balloon, cause,he,could now,eat more and whenever he wanted to. I am surprised that derricks comment about food didn't get edited out. These girls are so isolated that any Man U put in front of them they will fall in love with. As for Jana, is she a lesbian because I wonder why she is 25+ yrs old and still living at home. I pray that she meets someone soon, that,football player would be great for her!

Stephanie said...

Very good Zebra. I didn't sleep last night and put on my Duggar Dvr trying to sleep and I ended up getting a little to into my observations.

We are fortunate to have new people who keep asking which of Josh's kids was which birth. We have always called sweet Michaels birth the "toilet birth" its no discredit to him, he's one of my favorites, it's Anna for not standing up for herself.

I had never heard the Jilly muffin name until this wedding. I remembered the "Jessa Blessa' nickname. What are the other kids endearments? "Jana Banana"? I am a long time viewer and i truly dont remember "muffin".

Michelle and her highbrow, crazy buldge, non-blinking eyes to Ben's mom is going to be a cult classic. She talked to her.like she.talked to.Josie when she scolded her. LOVE LOVE LOVE that moment now!

Stephanie said...

Classic Jimbob wanting EVERYONE to listen to him does his signature statement with a long pause, looks to make sure all eyes are on him and makes announcement.

Example: Jimbob "that's one thing Jessa really wanted . . . . . . . . . . . . .. she wanted pews"
Thank you Jimbob for that little classic. You need to step up your game because Michelle has reeled me back in.

Seriously what was Jana problem walking out of the bathroom in that ugly dress. Everyone in the free world know that Bridesmaids dresses are ugly. You suck it up, shut up and wear it for the bride. Jana Banana should have taken her anger out on Jill who had her slaving like Cinderella for her wedding.

Grace said...

In Michelle's bulging wide-eyed expression, she described JessaBlessa as being Guinn's "daughter-in-LOVE"? Yeah, I'm sure Mishy is SOOOO close to HER "daughter-in-love", Anna..You don't ever see them interacting with each other in any real exchange of friendship, let alone like real family, do you?

Stephanie said...

To Michael in Texas
I think Jill told Derick that dirty secret AND Derick blurted it out on camera.
Its what Jimbob deserves after talking smack about his own dad and childhood.

There is more were that came from from Josh to Ginger I know theu have story after story of them living in poverty before reality tv.

I am certain Jimbob called a meeting with Jill And Derick and he (as they say in the Southern Baptist biz) "laid hands on" Derick and Jill and gave them a firm talking to about dirty secrets and the importance of their image.

Derick may be sent off for reprogramming with Josiah if he keeps making on camera mistakes like that one.
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Barbara Ann said...

Re: Wondering since Josh was present when his babies were born if that makes him a midwife......

ROFL! Someone tell Jim Bob so it can be added to his list of Pretentious Career Titles for his kids.

ellen said...

I agree that they seem to fall in love with any man, you could see the look of awe on Joy anna's face when she was doing BenSeawalds hair for the big proposal. Im surprised jimbob allowed her to touch him.And all the talk about their poverty, they dressed them alike in those hidious, little house dresses, i doubt they were bought at a thrift store. My guess is they bought a roll of ugly curtain material and sewed them.

Barbara Ann said...

Re: Derick sharing secrets of the Duggar kids being so hungry they had to hide out in the bathroom to eat......


Would imagine after they got the first TLC show there was more money so the kids weren't starving. However, the first sow was in that small house and it seems like they only had 2 bathrooms. It hurts my heart that they were so hungry they had to do that.....and right here in the US. No wonder his dad had spoke up against him having baby after baby yet they were hungry. Now Jim Bob is so cocky....but we know one of his dirty little secrets!

Allie said...

Re: derick talking about Jill eating in the bathroom....

With so many people in and out I imagine there were times that it had some stinky smells when she
was trying to eat. (a Petri dish
placed in a bathroom during
nursing school showed how
nasty the air is in a bathroom.

Stephanie from Virginia said...

Ellen you and my mom would agree. She is not a regular and she viewed it as Jill had to marry Derick because Pops set it up.

I also agree that the sister doing the boys hair is somewhat intimate. Even Jill shaving Derick before the wedding, very intimate considering they have never kissed.

sandi said...

My concern is that, would Derick have been happy with ANY of the Duggar daughters that were offered to him? If so, I don't see that as true love.I would have a huge problem with my dad had he done that.
Now if Derick showed an interest in a particular one,that would be different.But it seems JB offered Jill to him,and he gladly accepted.

Quiana said...

Anyone look at the very first pictures on Derrick's Instagram? Light years different and more worldly than anything now LOL

Alberta Rose said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
I keep remembering Jilly Muffin at her dental appointment, crying to to Papa Jim Bob and needing medication. It just doesn't coincide with the pregnant Jilly Muffin who says she's having a home birth with NO meds!! It's so mean, but I'm with those of you who can't wait to see this

I've home birthed a posterior baby, undergone a root canal and had my gallbladder removed. I'll take the home birthing a baby over those other two any day.

Elspeth said...

Today is special. I agree with Alberta Rose. I'd rather have an unmedicated posterior birth than gallbladder removal, or having all four wisdom teeth removed at the same time. It was much easier and less painful.

Bobbi said...

Personally, I thought Derick would have been a better match for Jana. Jana appears to be authentic, not pretentious, humble & smart. But Derick got Jill who is a camera hog, controlling always interruptive, a user of people when it suits her purpose, definitely clingy, & minus all decent manners. Also Jana far prettier than Jill & Jana has some class. Frankly, Jill is my least interesting Duggar. However, add to that Jim Bob who is well just a jerk.

Bobbi said...

Re reprogramming, I doubt Derick who is college educated would follow the direction of Dim Bulb. I just don't believe Jim Boob is that intelligent to think his son in law Derick would listen to anything regarding reprogramming. If TLC removed Jim Bob from the Duggar program, the program would be more interesting. His sidebar comments are boring. JB is about as interesting as watching grass grow.

Bobbi said...

I feel so sorry for & cry for Josie. I know she has curly hair that appears never to be combed. I hope she's recovered from the seizure. Interesting Michelle & Jim Bob always taking trips making Jana & the other older kids babysit? During these speaking engagements Michelle & Jim Bob talk a great game but do not live it. If a person believes they fool everyone, however they are biggest fool of all.

Bobbi said...

Last night I researched Bill Githard. What I learned was frightening & the Duggars continue to believe & practice this dung daily. Gothard is a wolf in sheep's clothing. The Gothard way minimizes & disrespects women. Jim Bob follows the Gothard lead. I can't believe When Michelle was in HS she fell for JB's crap. I also believe that JB's Dad was a good man. Again, because JB's Dad disagreed with JB's religious beliefs, JB threw his Dad under the bus. True Christians are respectful of others beliefs but not Jim Bob. Jim Bob & Michelke "pick & choose" specific scripture verses from the Bible to suit their purpose. That's not smart.

Bobbi said...

Name the Dillard baby after Derick's Dad & Jim Bob's Dad. Leave Dim Bulb out of the equasion.

Bobbi said...

Every time I read about the "toilet" birth of Michael Duggar I break into laughter. I mean a toilet birth sounds funny but also very crude.

Bobbi said...

Ok well, we all know the mission of college plus is to separate one from their finances & to blazes with accreditation it is non existent with college plus. A better label for college plus or more honest would be College minus.

Bobbi said...

TLC, please, please if you want the 19 Kids & Counting program to continue please develop a better story line. Your viewers have expressed numerous times we are BORED with the continuous pregnancy line & the sham touting Christianity iby Jim Bob he's not ethical or believable he is a JOKE!

Bobbi said...

The race is on.. Anna pregnant with #4. Each time Anna becomes pregnant, she looks a little more frumpy & older than her young years at 25. I can't believe she really wants as many kids as Michelle. I wish the married Duggar women would take birth control. It isn't a sin to give one's body a rest.