July 7 Duggars and Daughters

It's time for Duggar father/daughter bonding! And what better way to do that than at a family wilderness retreat? Watch as Jim Bob takes his oldest daughters and some family friends camping at the Fort Rock Family Camp.

30 minutes

67 comments:

Stephanie said...

I just saw on wikipedia that John-David was married on July 3. Also Jana is engaged...does anyone know if this is true?

Anonymous said...

I went and looked, and you are right! I wonder who the kids married, since we sure never saw any courtship by either of them. I wonder if Jim Bob just arranged Jana's marriage. And I also wonder if John-David married one of the Bates girls.

Anonymous said...

This is the first I've heard, and Wikipedia isn't always very accurate. Anyone with an account can log in and change something.

Anonymous said...

Yeah, I think this is false. I can't find anything at all about a possible marriage and or engagement. There's not even a slight mention of something like this on the family website. And I don't think they would hide something like an engagement and or marriage.

DuggarFan said...

I Googled John David and Jana and didn't find any information about a wedding/engagement. I agree with the posters who think this is false.

imaamy said...

I just checked weddingchannel.com and there is a pretend post about John-David getting married in 2012! I guess anyone can create on there too.

SuzanneDeAZ said...

I DOUBT IF any of the teens are married other than Josh.

Anonymous said...

It's fake. Wikipedia can be edited by anyone and they can make it say anything they want. If you wanted to, you could edit it to say the whole family was just abducted my aliens. lol

jonandkatewho? said...

Since they made such a huge deal out of announcing the sex of the new baby, I highly doubt the Duggars would pass up a chance to announce that one or more of their children were getting or had become married.

TLC sure as hell wouldn't pass up an opportunity to exploit that kind of news. Look at the marriage of Josh and Anna!

Stephanie said...

I sorta thought it was false, but didn't know if I'd missed something. Thanks!

Anonymous said...

I enjoyed this episode. It was nice to see Jim Bob spend time with his daughters as well as their friends as a surrogate dad.It made me think of the relationship I have began to have with my father and the one I had with my grandfather,who passed away a year and a half ago.Growing up my dad worked a lot so some of my fondest memories come from family trips and time spent with my grandfather.Recently my dad became ill and had to stop working.We've become so close in my adult years.Say what you want about Jim Bob,but I do truly believe that he is a good father and a good role model.I loved getting to see the girls be just girls.They weren't being moms or maids, they were just regular young girls hanging out with other girls.

Anonymous said...

I hope this episode will shut up those people who insist that the girls don't have any friends outside the family! Just because we don't see them hanging out with other kids all the time on camera, doesn't mean they never do.

Joanna said...

I believe if it was left up to the girls, including Anna, they'd arrive on time. But unfortuntally, it's usually the guys that hold them back, way back. If they had to put up with my step-dad or grandfather, if you aren't ready on time, then you either go as you are (even if your in your pajama's, haven't showered, and aren't fully packed, or you don't go at all). My step-dad loves to be anywhere at least an hour or two early. If your not ready and disappointed and fuss, then you fuss. Lateness is "NOT" tolarated in my family. (I'd like for him to take a go at 18 children!)

While I'm developing a stronger bond with my step-dad now, I never had that kind of bond growing up with my dad, step-dad, step-granfather, or even my brother. My Dad and brother are still very emotonals distant and no matter what I do I can't develop the kind of bond and closness I'd like to have with them and just beginning to get that with my step-dad after 20 years of praying, trying, and patience. My lack of a close, Godly father figure growing up has a major impact on my distrust and anxiety towards the male speices. I've always had to look towards my extanded family and church family and even beyond to see what a godly (or straiving to be) godly husband and father is or should be.

That's so true for so many daughters and sons, the Duggar girls probably have little idea just how fortunate they are to have a Dad like Jim Bob, and Michelle a husband like Jim Bob. I've always had to look towards my extanded family and church family and even beyond to see what a godly (or straiving to be) godly husband and father is or should be.

My Dad and I have been on several vacations together, but never a real bonding experince. I'm still striving and praying for that bonding and relationship and I'll never give up.

Anonymous said...

Good to see the girls doing some outdoor activities. The trip helped them bond more with their dad and was also healthy.

Anonymous said...

I've always thought Jim Bob was so overbearing and haven't cared much for him at all. But I have to admit I was impressed with him tonight. It's nice to see a Dad who will spend time not only with his own children, but with their friends. He seems like a very loving and caring Dad. I thought it was great that he invited the 2 girls whose dads had died. Apparently he's been close to these children and a father figure for a while.

*~*Nicole*~* said...

But what did Michelle do without the girls to cook/clean/raise the other kids???

Willow #1 said...

I thought Jim-Bob taking the girls to camp was nice and it showed him teaching his boys a few things also, before they left for camp. I guess this gave the girls a chance to do all the activities in a skirt that they couldn't do at ATI. LOL. Johannah was cute "what does wilderness mean?" I also watched the repeat of the ATI conference. I missed something the first time - when Michelle was talking about how happy she was to see the Bates' and she was saying something about you never know if your kids will meet a spouse, etc., and they had the camera on John David and then Erin Bates and then when he put the camera on Jessa, she shook her head like "not me". Ha. I could be reading more into it but that was cute. I really think that was a hint. Does anyone know if they made an actual episode out of that visit to the Bates while J&A were in NY?

Anonymous said...

"But what did Michelle do without the girls to cook/clean/raise the other kids???"

People who make comments like the above likely have not lived in a big family. Michelle works HARD. Just managing a family of that size is a tremendous amount of work. I have 6 children under 12 and while my kids do things(including cooking, laundry etc) the buck still stops here and it is up to me to make sure things are done and done well. Not to mention training them how to do jobs etc. Making dinner for 20 people is one of the easier things to do in that family. Everyone makes it seem like the girls are overworked while Michelle does nothing and I think that is just plain ignorant. She is very transparent in her book about how much work this family is and how exhasted she is/was especially in the early years etc.

I don't doubt that she did just fine without the girls as she did when they were all younger. The older girls are a blessing to thier family, but I know that Michelle is the glue, or what have you, that makes this family what it is. It makes me so sad to see people critize her. I have alot of respect for her.

SuzanneDeAZ said...

a
nonymous said: "I don't doubt that she did just fine without the girls as she did when they were all younger. The older girls are a blessing to thier family, but I know that Michelle is the glue, or what have you, that makes this family what it is. It makes me so sad to see people critize her. I have alot of respect for her. "

I too repsect her. I just do not understand why so many think that Michelle does not do much work and the girls are doing all of it. Everything you said I agree.

Anonymous said...

I have a lot of respect for Michelle too, but she really does use the older girls as washerwomen and surrogate mothers. You ALWAYS see the older girls caring for, holding or helping one of the little kids. Jordyn must have recently been weaned, because one of the girls was holding her last night, and we know Michelle basically had her breastfeeding 24/7 under that tent up until now. If one of the other girls is holding her, Michelle may already be pregnant with number 19.

I know Michelle works hard in her family, but it was her choice to have such a large brood. Also, the older girls really do help a tremendous amount, and they have suffered in the past when the older girls weren't there (like the wedding). Sometimes, part of the family will go on a trip and leave at least one or two older girls home, because the family doesn't function without them there.

I don't imagine Jim Bob will marry off the older girls all at once. Jana should be ready to go, but Jill still seems like she is 15 years old so has a lot of growing up to do first. Jessa seems older for some reason.

nccalgal said...

But what did Michelle do without the girls to cook/clean/raise the other kids???

When the older kids went on the mission trip Michelle was home with the younger ones and in the last stages of her pregnancy and she seemed to get along fine. Just because we see the older ones tending to the needs of younger siblings or cooking dinner doesn't mean that Michelle is clueless on how to run a household or doesn't participate now. How do you think the older ones became as proficient as they are unless Michelle taught them? OJT is the best learning tool hands down.

Sami said...

Dude it's wikipedia. Anyone can post onto those things. Don't trust it.

Sami said...

Does anyone know if they made an actual episode out of that visit to the Bates while J&A were in NY?

I believe in the webisode Anna said that the visit would be made into an episode. She was 18 weeks then.

Anonymous said...

i also loved this episode. I had to rewind the DVR when Jessa and Jinger were sitting in the truck discussing whether or not to take jackets.Jessa told Jinger "girlfriend,you won't need that!" I thought that was so funny!To see and hear the older girls becoming a little more mainstream while at the same time keeping their core values makes me smile.It shows people that you can be a good Godly person but still know how to be down to earth.I really chuckled later when they arrived at the campsite and were about to go for a walk and it was cold and Jinger smiled slyly and Jessa walked with her arms folded.She needed that jacket after all. I grew up with 3 brothers and have always felt alone and missed not having sisters so I admire the relationship the Duggar kids have with one another.I can't really complain about the Duggars.They seem like good people

Swissmiss said...

I have a lot of respect for Jim Bob acting as something of a surrogate father for kids who need one. Good for him!

Anonymous said...

There's one way to tell if a Duggar is getting married: a gift registry at Walmart...and, no registry for Jana, yet.

Paige said...

I liked this one, too. Jana was funny when she stops mid-sentence to comment on the bugs crawling on the ceiling.

clanof9 said...

I disagree that Michelle uses her daughters as washerwomen, maids, or surrogate mothers. These girls have been given important responsibilities, as they should be, and look at how confident and well-adjusted they are. Also, just because their responsibilities are important, doesn't mean they aren't allowed to have fun or be kids. I agree with the poster that pointed out the buck stops with Mom. There's a huge difference between having to help cook meals or do some laundry, and feeling the responsibility for the entire family weighing on your shoulders. Jim Bob and Michelle shoulder that burden.

I think it's amusing that so many people are horrified that the Duggar girls have grown-up responsibilities. Our current cultural environment emphasizes that children should play, play, play, "discover themselves", and "be kids". They learn self-centeredness and irresponsibility. Then when adult responsibilities hit them they are overwhelmed and unsuccessful. This leads to everything from unhappy marriages to money & job problems to ultimately unsuccessful families. There are few things more important than teaching your children responsibility.

IMHO, people should be way more horrified at the current trend of children being raised to be self-centered and irresponsible than at the Duggar girls having some grown-up responsibilities. I can't see that it's done anything but help them. It makes children feel important to be needed. The Duggar girls appear to be happy, helpful, sweet, well-adjusted, responsible young adults who have enjoyed their childhoods and are prepared for adulthood. Good job Michelle & JimBob.

Anonymous said...

What a kind man JimBob is, to invest himself in those fatherless girls' lives. How easy it would be for him to reason that he has enough responsibility with the megafamily he's got and that it should someone else's job to contribute to those girls' lives.

He really does practice what he preaches and strives to live a truly Christian life. A great example.

Sj said...

I grow to like Jim Bob more and more with each episode. When he cried for his deceased father, when he comforted Jill when she was scared of surgery, being a father figure for other girls, changing a tire in the middle of the road without a single complaint or even a hint of a bad attitude, Comforting Jackson after he fell off his bike. I have never once heard him lose his patience. I just don't understand the people that criticize him!

imaamy said...

Anon, I noticed that too about several phrases the girls used that were more mainstream. Their hair and fashion may not be the norm, but some of their speech sure is.

robin said...

Ooooh, better be horrified at me using my kid for live in help too. He is 6 and can vacuum, swiffer, dust, pick up trash, put dishes in sink, etc. The horror!! He also has to do school work during the summer so he doesn't get behind!!! What a horrible mother I am!!

jonandkatewho? said...

I have to step in here and stick up for those of us who might have a little bit of an issue with the way these kids are treated.

Speaking for myself, I have no doubt that M & JB are basically good and decent people who are bringing up good kids.

But you have to remember the sheer number of children they do have. With that many in the family, I think it only reasonable to state that these kids (girls especially) are spending a large amount of time on housework and child rearing. I have no problem with kids being taught to help out around the house but this is magnified by their sheer numbers. Those girls work hard.

And as I have stated before, I just have a problem with the idea that they probably aren't being encouraged from an early age to seek higher education. The kids who are of age should be getting some money from this show. In all actuality, the younger ones should probably be having money set aside for them as well if they are involved. They could earmark that for college, but it doesn't seem that it is emphasized to them that higher education and careers outside the home are a desirable option in the eyes of the parents.

I'm not in any way saying that hard work is a bad thing for children, nor is responsibility. But this is not a "typical" sized family and I still find it a bit unfair that these girls have so much responsibility when it comes to raising kids that their parents chose to have.

Midwest Mom said...

This episode was okay, but when Jim Bob went to the thrift store to pick up the used bunk-beds, he repeated that now worn-out Duggar phrase: "Buy used and save the difference".

Good grief, they even have Anna saying it now (in the episode where she went shopping for baby clothes at the thrift store).

I don't understand why the bunk beds were a part of this storyline anyway.

pam said...

The purchase of the bunk beds bothers me a bit. The Duggars are rich -lets be honest. They are making thousands from this show and other investments. Apparantly bunk beds available at thrift stores are a bit rare (JB had to call around to find one available). Seems to me that they should have left this bed to be available to someone who truly needs to be thrifty (a struggling single mom or maybe a family whose main breadwinner just lost a job). I mean its one thing to save money by shopping at Aldi or to buy clothing from a thrift store. Aldi will not run out of cans of corn and a thrift store has tons of clothing. But to run in and buy up something so hard to find bothers me a little. Anyone else feel this way?

Anonymous said...

I don't know that the Duggars are rich or making a ton of money from the show. Reliable sources have said that some of the TLC families make very little during the early seasons.

luvmybabies said...

I'm confused at people that feel bad for these girls for working hard. It has helped them become self-confident young adult women that are prepared to run homes and do anything else they choose to in adulthood.

Having household chores and duties, even lots of them, doesn't constitute "raising their mother's children." Or having to do work for "children their mother chose to have." Even if a mother has only two, that second child is a child the mother chose to have and yes the older child should be taught love and service by helping and sacrificing for, to some degree, the other child their parents chose to have. Where do you draw the line of how many "children their mother chose to have" is too many for the other kids to love and serve? I just don't see how it hurts them - it seems like it teaches them how to work, love and serve others. These skills and values seem to be going away fast in today's families. I think it's a tremendous blessing for the oldest Duggars.

I would have loved to learn those lessons in my youth, but I didn't. My parents didn't require me to do anything other than think of myself, and I still suffer from lack of work ethic and self-centeredness problems as an adult.

I think it could be a problem if the parents didn't let the older kids do things they wanted to do because of their duties, i.e., "can I go to a friend's house tonight? No, I need you to help with the little ones." I don't know if the Duggars do this or not but I haven't seen any evidence of it. If these girls are resentful I don't see it at all.

I too have wondered about the lack of higher education with the older kids. Makes me wonder if the parents discourage it or the kids just haven't desired any.

Popsicle said...

Please tell me that Jim Bob didn't say "funnest"! Jim Bob, please, so your children learn how to speak correctly, say, "What was the most fun part of the camping trip?"

Anonymous said...

Work and responsibility are very important values to teach our children. But one can pursue friendships, a higher education, even an out-of-the home activity, without it turning a child into a self centered and irresponsible person. Spending all time in the home caring for children and chores may teach responsibility, but it is also exceptionally limiting to all the possibilities available to young women today.

The Duggars could have a more balanced life. Teach responsibility, of course, but allow their children to make choices and experience some of the richness that life offers. They will be the better for it (and having choices and education does NOT make people self-centered!).

imaamy said...

Pam, that is a good point about the beds. I hadn't thought of someone less well-off needing them. I am reading their book now (and it is good!) and I see that JB's upbringing formed his financial ways. It probably isn't easy for him to go out and buy new stuff when he remembers his mom having to make decorative rice into breakfast for him and his sister because there was no other food in the house. Not saying he is right to deny someone else the beds, but just explaining why he might have trouble spending more.

Anonymous said...

The Forsythes, the family who owns the family camp that the Duggars went to, were featured on another reality show. I think it's called "World's Strictest Parents," where rebellious teens with troubled home lives are sent to live with very strict parents for a period of time to try to teach them discipline, etc. I remember seeing the family, noting that they were from Arkansas and had very similar values to the Duggars and wondering if they knew each other. I guess I have the answer now. However, the Forsythes only have two children.

Anyway, I thought the episode was a little dull, as many of them are. Jim Bob seems like a nice enough guy, but what is with the hairspray thing? He says he does it so he doesn't have to keep fixing his hair every hour. What man is so preoccupied with how perfect his hair is every minute. Isn't it un-Christian to be so vain and obsessed with one's appearance. Who cares if your hair is out of place every once in a while? I find that really bizarre and off-putting.

clanof9 said...

I don't know how well-off the Duggars are either. I have a friend who wrote and published a book, and she didn't make money on it until she was into the second or third printing, and even then it wasn't much. It looks like it takes selling boatloads of books before it becomes profitable. Don't know for sure though.

It sure doesn't look like they are well off. Has anyone else noticed that Michelle has been wearing the same clothes for a long, long time? She is always wearing that pink and white polo shirt and same black skirt, plus recycled maternity shirts. Not trying to be snarky, just something I've noticed. If money was plentiful you'd think she'd have more clothes.

Even if they do have plenty of disposable income now, they aren't going to abandon their thrifty ways, it's too much ingrained in their nature.

luvmybabies said...

I agree that having choices and education doesn't make kids selfish and irresponsible. If the Duggars have withheld those things from their kids, that would be wrong.

I pointed out that if they are denying their kids friends or out-of-the-home experiences, that would be wrong also, and would be out of balance. But I don't know if they are doing that or not.

My only point is that I don't think the older kids have too much responsibility in and of itself, IMO it's good for them.

SuzanneDeAZ said...

Concerning the bunk beds. I do not think they did anything wrong with buying it at a second hand store. Who are we, the "shopping" police to say what or what they should not buy with their money. If they did not buy it second hand then others would complain about that too, so let them make their own choices without comments. They are used to buying used so if they see a used bed so be it if they want to buy it, it is a free market.

They are NOT rich just cause they are doing these shows. They may be able to save or invest more money but this show has not made them rich, not yet.

clanof9 said...

That's a good point, SuzanneDeAz. They'd be getting grief about getting too much money from the show or something if they'd bought brand new bunk beds, or another similar complaint.

Just let them make their shopping purchases without comment.

CappuccinoLife said...

One of the important factors in getting and *staying* financially comfortable is thrift. So good on the Duggars for staying thrifty even if their income has increased some. And with that many people, even a larger income doesn't stretch quite as far as it would with a family of 4, you know.

If they suddenly started buying everything new and throwing money around, they'd be accused of hypocrisy. So, yet another point they just can win.

Midwest Mom said...

My point about buying the used bunk-beds was this:

It's absolutely great they are thrifty, but WHY does Jim Bob have to LOOK INTO THE CAMERA and say "BUY USED AND SAVE THE DIFFERENCE" every time they go buy something at the thrift store.

Good grief, we get it ! Enough already with that phrase ! It feels like he's lecturing the rest of America when he looks into the camera and says it.

KYmom said...

I've posted here once and want to again come to the defense of Mr. Duggar. I have a family member who is friends w/ 2 of the Duggar girls. There is a BRIEF shot of her on the old episode when they move into the rental house.
Anyway, the girls have lots of friends (some that even wear JEANS) and they are very normal. Mr. Duggar is extremely funny (that doesn't alway come across) and loves his family unconditionally. Don't be surprised by him being a surrogate father - this family does a lot of volunteering/giving. (I know for a fact the Bates ARE NOT the first family helped by the Duggars!) Peace.

OLatin said...

Re: Jim Bob's preoccupation with his hair, this could be a habit he picked up when he was in politics and has just never let go of.

Sugar Booger said...

I had much responsibility for my siblings and the home when I was younger... In fact, since I was eight I was responsible for the house being completely cleaned daily when my parnets returned from work, and they threw clothes and trash around with no regard because they weren't responsible for picking it up. I also changed diapers on a four year old when my parents decided to let her "potty train herself"... So when I had children I swore they would have no adult responsibilities at such a young age... And guess what? They are completely irresponsible... In every area. A little responsibility never hurt a child...

The Running Phanatic said...

Can I just say that even the problems we discuss here seem so pure and un-annoying compared to some other reality families? We are complaining about how they raise their kids, not that anyone is a bad person or a P.I.T.A. that we absolutely can't stand. Despite their large size and conservative values, this family and the problems we seem to have with them seems so NORMAL compared to some of the other TLC families (which I now refuse to watch).

msrylee said...

I commend JB for taking two young ladies whose dads have passed away, on the trip with his own daughters. It sounds like the two girls have joined them in the past.

It was funny to watch JB on horse-back!! Either he is uncomfortable around larger animals, or put on quite a performance for the cameras.

Just what the bunk bed purchase had to do with this episode I'm not sure. Maybe I just don't get the connection.

Anonymous said...

I was thinking about Josh and Anna...how they are only appearing in certain episodes that focus on them. Do they have their own contract with TLC for their appearances since Josh is no longer "dependent" or the Duggars. Just a thought.

Joanna said...

I do considered showing the bunk bed purchuss unnessary and taking away valuable moments to the episode. I do consider several of the shopping trips unnessary unless it's something special, (I find shopping pretty boring in real life too)

B in Lee said...

I applaud the Duggars for the wonderful family they are! I also had a lot of responsibility for tending the household while growing up: it was the right thing for me to do, since both my parents worked fulltime jobs. I learned at a young age to at least have supper started (Mom would leave written instructions), I did the routine house cleaning and yard work, cared for the pets and at tried my best to help ease my parents' burden. We shared daily meals, frugal vacations and a deep contentment with our family life.

I doubt any of the Duggar kids will need the "help" of a 'life coach' or a bottomless bottle of Xanax in order to "cope" with the challenges of Life. They are being well raised and educated, with all the love and attention any children could desire.

Hurrah for the Duggars!!

MarylandMomOf3 said...

About the bunk beds again....

They said that the bed that had broken was at least 15 years old. Clearly, although TLC helped in the decorating of the new house, they did not provide (OR the Duggars did not take them up on the offer of) all new furniture.

Admirer said...

There's lots of talk about the work the girls do, but I've been surprised the boys don't seem to do much. Granted, lots of the boys are still little, and I do remember something about one of the boys being in charge of the pantry.... They seem to have a large lot or acreage, and I've always wondered why they don't appear to have a garden and/or small livestock. Maybe their place isn't zoned that way but it SEEMS to be rural. Talk about saving money! Some chickens could do that AND teach even the smaller kids responsibility. With a garden - and the 2 kitchens, one of them commercial - they could can LOTS of their own food. One older program showed them shopping, and they seemed to use an awful lot of processed convenience foods.

As for John-David and Jana, true or not, after the circus of Josh and Anna's wedding, I can imagine they would want to steer clear of something like that and keep their lives more private. I think much of the Josh/Anna publicity is Josh's idea. Didn't you catch the cameraman make a slightly snarky remark to Josh about putting 'everything on TV,' when he called the TV crew to have them film him telling Anna she is pregnant? Didn't the very first special say he wanted to go into some sort of video production? I wonder what happened to that idea?

Sulmith said...

Admirer, they do have a garden. It was shown on an earlier epsiode, I think the Cheaper By The Duggars one?

They have a friend who lives in an apartment in town and he wanted a place to grow some veggies so he offered to teach the kids how to make a garden.

It appeared that they were only using the space along the property line which I thought was a bit strange, since they do seem to have room for a more typically laid out plot. I also think they should have a huge garden so those kids don't have to eat so many canned veggies.

The family diet is still my number one Duggar pet peeve.

kcangel said...

Part of the episode showing them gardening is here.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7_xmShkGnk

BoyMom said...

Loved this episode. JimBob was funny with his girls and I commend him for wanting to go.

I too admire the relationships the sisters all have with each other.

Christy said...

One thing with gardening and livestock, is that it takes a pretty hefty commitment. They wouldn't be able to pack up and go to Tennessee to see the Bates, to their homeschool conventions, to NYC for the Today show, or family vacations as easily. Animals need to be fed and watered and their pens cleaned out. Gardens need to be watered, weeded, and harvested.

I have several friends who garden quite extensively and have chickens, goats, pigs, etc. They RARELY get a chance to vacation and if they do, it's only for a couple of days here and there and finding someone to care for the animals while there gone is a huge problem.

Anonymous said...

B in Lee--

great post and I totally agree. My mom was a single mom and it was only my sister and I, but I was coming home alone in the 3rd grade and starting dinner for my mom with her written instructions. I loved it! I still love to cook and it all started with my mom letting me do responsible things no matter what my age was.

andet said...

To the person who said, they aren't being encouraged to seek higher education, many of the children stated what they would like to be when they grow up. Most of the jobs stated, needed some form of higher education. I'm also assuming that these kids being home schooled are probably way more advanced than children being taught in public schools. As for money being put away for the children from the producation of the show, you have to remember M & JB are self-sufficient. I'm sure the show is helping BUT they had a handle on things financially wayyyy before TLC came along. It's also not a J&K8 situation where their ONLY source of income comes from the show. We only get an occasional glimpse into the family, not an everyday thing. I admire this family.

Anonymous said...

I watched the episode again last night, and didn't think the interactions between the daughters to be so nice (though, typical of normal teens, I guess). Jessa snapped at Jinger about not needing the coat ("Girlfriend"), but then when they were cold at the camping place, Jinger said something about how glad she was to have brought the coat, to which Jessa snapped "MY coat". And, Jana wouldn't let Jill talk at all when the two of them were in the doorway. The father-daughter foosball looked staged. I don't think the daughters are show interacting too much at all on the show.

Midwest Mom said...

I'd like to see an episode where Jim Bob Duggar takes his daughters for a weekend visiting several college campuses.

Oh well, I can dream, can't I ?

Anonymous said...

Re: the bunk bed thing --

I think the Duggars use their shows, as often as possible, as a means to "educate" people.

They know that we know they can pay full price at this point. But I believe they're speaking to those who can't, and it's a good message for these days.

The money they save on any purchase they make a point of showing is inconsequential compared to the money their viewers can learn to save by putting their advice into practice.

I don't usually buy what they're selling, but in this case, the show has been helpful to me.

I really didn't realize that you can negotiate most prices, and I had no idea how to go about this sort of negotiation . . . nicely.

But waching Jim Bob do it, and do it without shame, gave me the nerve to do the same.

I really needed new tires, but I couldn't afford what the store was quoting me. So I took the Duggars' advice and spoke to the manager, nicely, and saved almost $200 on 4 tires, and got better ones that I could ever have afforded otherwise.

So I'm glad they include these things in the show, and I appreciate the lesson.

Beth said...

Andet, you said "I'm also assuming that these kids being home schooled are probably way more advanced than children being taught in public schools."

Umm...no. These kids are being taught by a woman who has no higher education than a high school diploma from a curriculum that provides only minimal coverage of basic knowledge, if one even considers the science curriculum really "science" -- which it in no way is. These people are teaching their children that the earth is only 6,000 years old and that man co-existed with dinosaurs, having them as pets. No, this is not a good curriculum.
Arkansas may not have had a good educational system in the past but it has made great strides since the Clinton educational initiatives (70s-90s). Where the Duggars live, in the northwest corner of the state, boasts some of the best schools around. My mother teaches there and has for over 40 years. University of Arkansas also offers some fine programs, particularly in the fine arts, math, and sciences. I hold a baccalaureate from there and master's and PhD from other, more elite, universities. The public schools in that area served me well.

Home schooling is only as good as the teacher. If the parent doing the teaching is educated and prepared, it can be a very positive experience. The opposite is also true. Unfortunately, most students who are home schooled for religious reasons lose out on important learning in the field of science that is particularly important to their critical thinking and inquiry-based skill development.