Tuesday, July 21 - Duggars Meet Dolly

It's only fitting that a big family with a love of music meet a musician with a big voice. The Duggars are at Dollywood to meet Dolly Parton. And what will the Duggars and Dolly do when they meet? Sing, of course!

30 minutes

79 comments:

SuzanneDeAZ said...

I can not wait to see this new show.

18kids said...

I can't wait to see how Jim Bob explains Dolly's physique to his kids, lol.

Joanna said...

I'd just tell little children that's how she looks and if they wanted more, that there are all kinds of body types. Don't have to go into surgery, fake, or anything like that.

Anonymous said...

This should be an interesting episode. Maybe Jim Bob could get the focus off her looks and tell the kids about her reading program and how she's helping children.

Kai said...

Heres the talk about Dolly being "immodestly" dressed. It's the latest webisode.




http://tlc.discovery.com/videos/18-kids-and-counting-season-3-webisodes/

Joanna said...

I think they addressed the issue quite well. Another thing I should point out is that pracitually (if anybody), copies Dolly's dress. She really is one of a kind. Even though I'm not crazy about alot of her outfits, she is an all around wholesome person and a very big hearted Christian woman.

Anonymous said...

I wonder how many times they had to say Nike when dolly was in the room with them.

Grace said...

I heard a "Nike" even before they met Dolly.

Anonymous said...

Me too! When they were walking into the park and someone was asking "do you ever feel like people are watching you all the time?" and Michelle laughed and then said "nike". hahaha I guess someone watching them was doing so in a low cut top.

PS. When Dolly leaned over to smile at Jordyn, everyone got a nice look down HER top. haha

Ava said...

I really like Dolly, no matter what her outside or whatever. If I grew up poor like her I would want to use what my hard earned money is for getting the things I never had. My dad grew up in that area very poor and he has always given back, just like Dolly does. I was very impressed that she gives books to all children born in the area. I think that is awesome as reading is so important.
I wondered too, though how they would explain her upper half, but they all did pretty well. She was pretty covered up for Dolly I would suppose.
But some things I wonder... Since Michelle has started using that baby feeder hip hugger thing, she sure does seem to breastfeed a TON? I mean I have never seen her breastfeed the other younguns like she does this one. Is she just using it a lot for kickbacks from the company? Maybe they pay her if she uses it 3 or more times on a show. I should start counting and see if it is the same each show. Seems like a little overkill. On the parade, the baby wasn't even crying so why did she have to latch her on while standing? She could have sat down and done that.
Also, why is Amy always in on everything? She gets her on little interviews and all. She is not one of the kids and should not have her own interviews. She really drives me crazy as she is overdramatic and goes overboard. THey need to get her off of there. I think she is just begging for her own show. Amy does Dallas.

chocolatebee said...

The Duggars seemed like they had a great time in Tennessee and with Dolly Parton.Jennifer and James playing in the beginning of the episode was so cute.They remind me of how much fun it is growing in a large family(of course my family was quite as large but there was a lot of inmediate and extended family around all the time).Everyone seems more comfortable in front of the camera.Grandma Duggar seemed outgoing.It was good to see her doing so well after losing her husband.Anna seemed to be coming out of her shell a bit too. She seems more at ease with her sister around.I actually like Anna's sister. She is funny and outgoing and it a nice balance to all of Cousin Amy's energy, who by the way, has been much more tolerable as of late.I don't think there was anything wrong with Dolly Partyon's outfit.Yes she isnt as conservative as the Duggars and her top was a bit low cut but its kind of hard to cover up all her assests!I think Dolly and the Duggars respected one another's personal choices very nicely.Baby Jordyn is absolutely adorable.This was a nice episode.
Although I found it very unsafe and weird that Michelle was leaning against the back of the bus with Jordyn. God forbid something happened like the bus rolled backward but maybe that's just the anxiety part of me.
Also I found it strange that all the people at Dollywood were staring at the Duggars. I dont know if it was the size of their group or the TLC cameras but I found it very rude that people would just ogle them.

Anonymous said...

Couldn't they have provided a chair for Michelle, considering she would likely have to nurse on the float? Riding even at a slow speed can be a challenge. Thank God they didn't hit a bump or have to stop suddenly.

Jessica said...

Did anyone notice Jill carrying Jennifer in the ergo baby carrier when they went to the park? Those are expensive..I bet the company sent it to them. I also noticed Jana staring at Dolly's chest when they were talking to her, anyone else notice that?

Jessica said...

Oh and I forgot to say, why does it seem like Michelle is always nursing? and carrying around that pillow and standing seems odd to me..She should try a sling..

Cari said...

She probably uses the pillow because she's said that the "football hold" position of nursing works best for her.

Also, it does seem like she's nursing all the time, but then remember that this is the first small(er) baby they've had on the weekly series.

clanof9 said...

It freaked me out also to see Michelle (with the baby!) "pushing" against the back of the bus. Why would it even occur to her to go near a humongous, running bus, (the back of it, no less, where no one can see her), with a nursing baby? I didn't get it. Not a big deal, I suppose, but it was major alarming for me. I'm just glad nothing bad happened.

Anonymous said...

Jill was carrying Jennifer in the Beco Butterfly carrier. They aren't that expensive when you consider you can use it until your child weighs 44lbs; they cost around $140. My sister has one and she loves it. Supposedly it is much better for the baby/child's back because it supports their whole behind and doesn't put pressure just on their spine, like in a baby bjorn.

Willow #1 said...

Loved this/these episodes about Pigeon Forge. I really like Anna's sister (as much as I can tell, they don't really show her much) but AGAIN, just cannot tolerate Amy. I am so sorry to have to say that, but WHY does she have to be on this show, taking time away from the Duggar kids??? The occasional wedding or funeral could show her a LITTLE BIT in passing, as an extended family member, but she is on just too much, IMO. Sorry Amy, you may be a nice person, but you are just over-selling it hon. To TLC: There are plenty of gorgeous and funny Duggar girls - don't need so much of Amy. Loved Dolly also and Jordyn couldn't have smiled any cuter at Dolly if she had been trained, huh? Ditto for Jennifer and James.

Anonymous said...

I thought Michelle pushing on the moving bus, while holding Jordyn under the tent, was absolutely insane. What does it say about her judgement as a mother that she would jeopordize her own and her child's life like that? Also, why were some of the younger kids hanging OUT of the window as the bus was moving? There are safety measures that this family does not follow, whether it is letting small children wander around a worksite with power tools (when building the house), traveling without seatbelts, or Michelle pushing a moving bus, while carrying a baby.

Really makes me question their judgement on important aspects of caring for a family.

Midwest Mom said...

The second-oldest boy, John David (?) never seems happy.

Maybe he's camera-shy, maybe he's just a quiet person, but in comparison to the other children, he just seems unhappy. He stares out into space a lot, like he's daydreaming.

Could he be contemplating his break from the Duggar prison?

Also, who watches the used-car lot when Josh & Anna are away for any length of time, like this trip to Pigeon Forge ?

Shetlandponyluvr said...

I think when they showed Michelle pushing on the back of the bus she was just being silly. You can tell by the look on her face that she's just playing around.

Anonymous said...

For an interesting look at the world of Dolly Parton and her parade, look up the documentary "For the Love of Dolly" and you'll see why she had those two bodyguards with her when she came to meet the Duggars.

Anonymous said...

Like other posters, I thought it was dangerous that Michelle was behind the bus while carrying Jordyn and her nursing pillow. I hope that the bus engine was turned off and Michelle was just joking around about pushing the bus!

I loved how excited baby Jordyn was to meet Dolly, and how happy she made Dolly too! You could tell that Dolly genuinely loves babies.

I noticed at the restaurant that there were a few extra people that I didn't recognize with the Duggars. There was Jim Bob's sister (Amy's mom) and Anna's sister, but there were one or two other adults that I couldn't place. I wonder if they were with TLC or part of the production crew? If so, I salute the Duggar family for including them at the same table for the meal.

Anonymous said...

The whole "nike" thing for the boys/men is wierd and doesn't make for a very healthy respect for women. I mean, it perpetuates the notion that men are brainless victims and women are manipulative temptresses.

Anonymous said...

This whole "nike" thing is really disturbing to me. Supposedly they teach their kids to value individuality - and I know that they have been taught enough about modestly to know that dressing like that is not their way - but why not teach the kids to just not stare at other people's bodies? That its okay to notice, but don't look and certainly don't judge. Even Joy-Anna covered up someone's low cut shirt when they were all huddled around that mini tv watching the Today show, and she is what, 11? (and it was morning tv in Arkansas - I can't imagine it was anything bad) Isn't this kind of teaching the girls that guys are sexual predators who can't be trusted? Who have no self control? The boys are being taught to never look at something that is sooooo bad, sooo off-limits. I'm sure their imagination is making it much crazier that it actually is.

The whole thing is just wrong to me. They are making it out to be sucha big deal when its not. I don't even want to imagine what all of those little boys are going to be like when they are older and don't have to follow the nike rule. No wonder John-David seems like of creapy sometimes.

Anonymous said...

Enjoyed the episode as well as the interaction between Dolly and the Duggars. I think Dolly Parton has done alot for her community as well as the kids.

Joanna said...

I loved it when the Duggars got on one of those more thirlling (or scary) rides and the producer wouldn't get on and on of the kids (I think Ginger), called out "Chicken!"

To this day at age 28, if I see or notice anybody in low cuts or anything I think is to immodest, I look away. If I have to look at them, I try ignore they low cuts. Even watching watching Dolly, I fight not to pay attention to her cleveage.

My Mama and I didn't have a code word or anything, but if she saw me starting at anyone for any unappriate reason, she squeezed and afterward reminded me to don't stare, (not just immodesty, but several things). If something appeared on screen that she didn't think was apperiate for me to see (usually scary or graphic stuffs), she covered my eyes. My brother dose the same thing with his daughter.

HW said...

When the Duggars were on one of the rides at the amusement park, they cut to a man who wrote on a tablet...something like "Duggars made fune of me..." I didn't see what prompted that. Can anybody shed some light on this?
Thanks so much.

Anonymous said...

I agree with all the posters that have said the "nike" thing is just plain weird. They are doing a huge disservice to the kids by not allowing them to ever fail, or make a mistake. That's how we learn. We do something dumb or inappropriate and try and do better the next time.

Oh, and I looove Dolly. I felt bad for Grandma, who almost seemed embarrassed as she tried to justify why her grandkids never really heard of her, or understand why she would have bodyguards and a theme park named after her.

BoyMom said...

Loved this episode but I wish they'd show more of the older kids. I hardly see Jana at all except in passing. I too am sick of Amy-I have been for awhile now and would much rather hear what one of the Duggar girls/boys thinks that a cousin who is only there to show the large contrast between Duggar values and everyone else's.

I think Michelle was kidding "pushing" the back of the bus. It looked funny that there was this tiny woman pushing that ginormous vehicle.

I wish we could learn more about the Duggars instead of watching them wrangle 18 kids through an amusement park tour. What's their grocery list look like? What kind of schoolwork do they do? What is a "normal" day like for them-meaning AT HOME! How do they maintain that huge house and large tract of land? I'm still fascinated by their family but am having a hard time believing that without cameras they would live their lives shuttling everyone on extended field trips.

Anonymous said...

I think John David may just be a very shy person who isn't comfortable with the cameras. When he's shown on camera he looks uncomfortable to me. I think his personality is pretty opposite that of Jim Bob, Josh and Josiah.

He seems to like being in the back of the crowd on the show and we all know there are plenty of "front of the crowders" in the family to let him do that.

luvmybabies said...

BoyMom, have you read the Duggars book? That's where you will get a lot of information on their daily life and routines. I too, would enjoy seeing episodes about their regular life. But to a lot of people, that's boring.

To the poster that asked about the Duggars making fun of the producer, it was because he wouldn't get on that ride at the amusement park, and they were giving him a hard time.

Jessica said...

To anonymous,
it was a brown ergo carrier..

Joanna said...

HW said...
When the Duggars were on one of the rides at the amusement park, they cut to a man who wrote on a tablet...something like "Duggars made fune of me..." I didn't see what prompted that. Can anybody shed some light on this?
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The Duggars went on a thrill, somewhat scary, ride. They uraged the producer to get on and he wouldn't. One of the kids called out, "Chicken?" I think it was Ginger, but not sure.

Ana said...

I'm glad I'm not the only one that can't stand Amy on the show. She is too overbearing.And doesn't even need to be on there. it isn't like she is helping with the kids or anything.

I do wish JB would take more part in the little ones. He rarely holds the kids. It is all Michelle holding the nursing one and the teens holding the toddlers. I really think it is unfair to make a teen girl carry her baby sister in a carrier while hiking Her dad should have been doing that. And then while they met with Dolly, one of the teen boys was holding the toddler. I guess that is my only downside that I dont like about this family is that they shed too much responsibility for raising the young ones on the older ones. The parents aren't doing the parenting. I wonder if the little ones get confused on who to bond to or look to for a motherly figure?

Anonymous said...

Ana said:
I do wish JB would take more part in the little ones. He rarely holds the kids. It is all Michelle holding the nursing one and the teens holding the toddlers. I really think it is unfair to make a teen girl carry her baby sister in a carrier while hiking Her dad should have been doing that. And then while they met with Dolly, one of the teen boys was holding the toddler.

He couldnt hold his baby because he was too busy hold the family's book he is forever plugging!

Crystal said...

To the person who commented about the Ergo. They're cheaper than most strollers (especially if you get it used or as a gift) which most people wouldn't bat an eye at if Michelle would have had one. Also if she bought it with one of the last few kids the cost per use isn't much at all especially if you have a baby that only wants to be carried allll day.

Willow #1 said...

Ana - With all respect, I must disagree with you about JB carrying babies. My impression is that I have seen him do it many times (i.e., the trip to San Antonio). I do agree that it seems they put a lot on the older ones, but like I said, my impression was that I have seen JB do this also. I think he really likes the kids, IMO.

Anonymous said...

I for one like Amy!! Yes, she does appear to hog the spotlight, but I don't thinks she's any more outgoing or rowdy than any other young person her age. She's fun, but respectful of the rest of the clan. She stands out because her cousins are so milque toast/vanilla. (Also, I have a secret hunch that Michelle had her share of good, clean but crazy fun in her days before marriage & kids.)

Anonymous said...

Ergos are not that expensive, and isn't that the one they show one of the older girls wearing a newborn Jennifer in? Or maybe it was Johanna. Anyway, it's not like they won't continue to use it with other children or pass it on to Anna when she has her baby, or perhaps one of the girls, etc.

I thought the 'webisode' where they discussed Dolly Parton's attire was great. Jim Bob was entirely right when he said it was no worse than what you'd see at Walmart(in fact, I've seen much much *less* clothing on people at Walmart) and Michelle made a point to say that they did not judge others on what they wear, that each person has to decide where the 'line' is for themselves. She also stated that she tried to point out the wonderful things Dolly Parton has contributed to the area, like Dixie Stampede and all the books she gives out, etc.

About the nursing thing: (sorry can't resist) Michelle says int he book that she prayed with Jackson to have a good nursing experience for once and not have pain. God granted her request and she was able to nurse him without pain for nine months (until she got pregnant again and her milk dried up. That happens to some women when they get pregnant, including myself). Maybe she is trying to nurse Jordyn as much as she can, hoping to keep up her milk supply (pumping is fine, but it doesn't do as well as actual nursing at keeping up supply). And also, maybe she's simply enjoying nursing this time around instead of it hurting and having trouble keeping up her supply etc. She also realizes she is over 40 yrs old and this could possibly be the last baby (b/c of menopause), maybe she wants to cherish each moment and not deny the baby a nursing whenever she wants.

Maybe she nurses on demand, like I do, and lets Jordyn-Grace nurse whenver she likes just b/c that's how she does things. I nurse my child anytime they want to nurse when they are nursing, even when they are older, like a year old etc. I really don't get the problem with it, she's so completely covered up, you couldn't see an inch of skin if you tried. I honestly think some people won't be happy no matter what Michelle does. First, they villify her b/c they say she doesn't nurse long enough, she must be cutting off nursing so she can get pregnant again faster, etc(both of those are cleared up in the book). Now people are complaining b/c she IS nursing the baby as much as possible. Jordyn-Grace was only about 5 to 6 months old in this episode. My 5-6 month olds nurse about 12 times a day, if not more. If you were to come to my home and stay more than an hour you're going to see me nurse (with a nursing cover similar to the one Michelle has on). It's just part of my life , part of my day. The show is about their life. Nursing a baby is part of Michelle's life.

Mrs P

BoyMom said...

I have to comment on the older kids holding the siblings. My mom had my baby brother when I was 13 and I was ALWAYS holding him-probably way past the age where he wanted me to! I was at an age where I LOVED babies and my sister and I were always wanting to change his diapers and clothes and bathe him, etc, etc. So, while the older kids surely help out, they may also enjoy doing so.

clanof9 said...

I also get the impression that the older ones enjoy helping care for the siblings. My oldest child was 14 when our baby was born, and they all LOVE holding the baby, carrying her around, bathing and changing diapers, all of it. If I hadn't nursed, they would have wanted to feed her too. They fight over who gets to hold her and carry her places. So I don't doubt that the older Duggars love to help out with their siblings. Just because there's been a lot doesn't necessarily mean they're tired of it. My kids are always telling me they want me to have another baby. They just love them.

I think that's part of this family's closeness and one reason why they enjoy each other's company.

Jessica said...

I totally agree Boymom!
I was going to say the same thing..
I know the older ones especially like taking care of the little girls..and dressing them up and doing their hair.

Swissmiss said...

Count me in as someone who is very, very tired of Amy being on so often.

I also recommend reading the Duggars book. My library had a copy, and it explained a lot about the family.

It seemed dangerous to have Michelle standing on the float and nursing while the float moved. What if she had lost her balance?

Anonymous said...

The baby carrier thing might be a bit expensive if it's new, but we don't know if they actually bought it new. They could have gotten it at a second-hand store, yard sale, or a friend could have given it to them.

I was a bit shocked when Michelle started breastfeeding while on a moving float, when the baby wasn't even crying or upset. Maybe she just keeps to a very strict time schedule with feeding?

It seemed like an inappropriate time to me though. Even if she had been bottle feeding, on a moving float seems inappropriate, when the baby's not even upset or hungry.

OkieMom said...

About the whole Nike thing - I can understand where they are coming from. In the Bible, when Jesus is talking to Pharisees, he says, "But I say, anyone who even looks at a woman with lust has already committed adultery with her in his heart." Matt. 5:28 They are just trying to protect their kids. We all know that teen-age boys are loaded with testosterone and seeing girls dressed in a certain way can bring on all kinds of thoughts and feelings - it's pretty much out of their control. They're not being judgmental of others - they are just trying to follow their convictions. There's no topic that can bring on more disagreement, even among conservative Christians, as to what type of dress qualifies as modest and what is immodest. I really think they do a good job of not being harsh and judgemental towards others who do not share their same convictions. They're not perfect, but then neither is anyone else. It seems to me that they do an excellent job of following another on of Jesus' teachings in Matthew 7:1 - don't judge others. They were very complimentary towards Dolly Parton and mentioned all of her good characteristics, just as they are always very loving and accepting towards Amy and others who may share the same values. As Christians, we all have different convictions.

Anonymous said...

Crying is a *late* indicator of hunger in a baby. If you watch them closely you will know when they are hungry *before* they cry. My babies rarely get to the crying stage. I watch and notice when they start 'eating their fist', squiriming around, rooting, reaching towards the bre*st, etc. ,and when they get older they even make a 'hungry' sign(I teach them some simple signs) or even a facial expression can show their hunger.

Mrs P

Alissa said...

Wow, jumping the shark already! Free trips from the network, celebrity guest appearances, a new and adorable character coming up? I feel a Brady Bunch moment coming on.

Anonymous said...

Jordyn is not a newborn. She does not need to breastfeed 24/7, like a 6 week old. She could sit on her mother's lap and look out at the world, instead of having her development squelched by spending most of her day in the dark under a tent-like thing. She needs to be interacting with the world more!

It was poor judgement for Michelle to feed her standing up, on a float too. The float could have stopped suddenly, with terrible results to both Michelle and Jordyn.

Michelle sometimes seems like a ditzy mother, who isn't taking the well being and safety of her children into account. It isn't malicious; it seems like she doesn't know any better, which is a little worrisome.

Anonymous said...

I agree that putting anyone of our families under the microscope would expose the dysfunction in all of us.

However, we have not chosen to be on a hugely popular commercial television program, being paid for our antics and prodded by producers, etc... to engage in behavior that goes against our better judgement or common sense (which in my experience is not all that common these days)

Anonymous said...

Oh, and I forgot to say that since they have made their choice to do this show, I don't see a big difference between commenting on their activities and discussing the lastest events on a soap opera for example.

Susan said...

If we didn't question their ideas there would be no need for this site. This is a very respectful site, just people expressing their opinions.

paige trimble said...

I missed this episode what does Nike mean?

Anonymous said...

Jordyn seems like a very happy baby so Michelle must be doing something right. It did seem strange that Michelle chose to feed her on the moving float but we should remember editing. Maybe she was crying but that got edited out.

Amy is annoying at times, and maybe they should focus more on some of the other Duggars rather than spending so much time on Amy. I have wondered why Amy went on the baby shopping trip with Grandma, Michelle, Jordyn, Anna and Anna's sister. That was a pretty curious combination. I also can't understand why they were buying so much before they knew the baby's sex. Especially since they knew they were going to find out in a TV "opportunity".

I have also wondered who watched the used car lot when all the family is traveling. Seems like Josh would need to sell some cars to support his family, but maybe not with TLC's payments to him and Anna.

Anonymous said...

I believe in one episode Josh said that John David helps out at the used the car lot... that's right, it was the episode where Josh and Anna were in Florida getting ready for the wedding I believe? He said that while he was away John David would take care of the used car lot.

At least 2 kids out of 18 will have a job, lol...

Anonymous said...

Because the duggars are not allowed to have physical contact before they are married does that mean they can not hug their children either?

Anonymous said...

I just caught a re-run of the episode where the family went shopping for Anna's baby clothes.

Someone said in an earlier post that they think that scene was shot after they found out the sex -and I think that is correct.

Not only was shopping for baby boy AND girl clothes totally not Duggar like and frugal - Anna's bag was full of girl items, and after spending only $40-$50, she said something like - if we went to the mall, we'd only be able to buy two dresses for that amount. Dresses.

I really love the Duggar's and this show - and I really hope that we, as an audience, aren't being duped. Why shoot scenes that aren't reality? Reminds me of Jon and Kate ....

mlou said...

I am from Tennessee and love Dolly! She has never put on an act. She has always been very gracious and honest about all the procedures she's had. I've only been to Pigeon Forge once and watching this episode makes me want to go back.

I think they have Amy on to bring a young "hip" factor to the show. She does get on my nerves. We never saw her in any of the earlier documentaries and she just seems to be milking the show for attention. She's way over the top and tries to put herself in every possible situation. I'm sure she is a sweet person, but enough already!

As far as them buying clothes for both sexes, I'm sure they figure at the rate they have kids they will be used sooner or later. It was nice to see them at a second hand store and not at the local Gap picking up their freebies.

SuzanneDeAZ said...

"Anonymous has left a new comment on the post "Tuesday, July 21 - Duggars Meet Dolly":

Because the duggars are not allowed to have physical contact before they are married does that mean they can not hug their children either?"

Are you serious? There is a big difference between parents and their children or even between siblings, than young people of the opposite sex.

Jessica said...

Has anyone noticed how the youngest3 girls wear clothes that aren't extremely modest like the older ones? They always wear leggings and shorter dresses/skirts.

Anonymous said...

I think the younger girls are dressed so that they can play.


I didn't think about the baby clothes shopping trip possibly being staged after the Today show reveal. I hope that wasn't the case, but I wouldn't be surprised.

nccalgal said...

Josh and Anna agreed to hand-holding only for their courtship and that their first kiss would be at their wedding. That doesn't mean that the rest of the clan has to follow that same pattern. Hopefully the next ones will be more realistic. Many teens have chosen to forgo the random dating scene in favor of waiting until they are ready to get into a serious relationship with a prospective partner. The upside to this is they spend more time getting to know one another and learn how to communicate rather than spending time "exploring" their sexual compatibility, saving that for marriage.

octavia said...

I enjoy watching this family, but I also enjoyed watching the Gosselins when their show first started. Wasn't this how the Gosselin freebie-trip-extravaganza began? A place they'd never heard of invited them to come, and "who are we to say no"? Now the Duggars are invited to someplace they've never heard of, to meet someone they've never heard of (not one of them knew anything about Dolly Parton, including Michelle, who wondered if Dolly was in Hee-Haw). If this family is "too boring" to show in their day-to-day lives, then they shouldn't have a show. Don't get me wrong, I think they're a lovely family, but they're beginning to go the way of the Gosselins IMO.

Things are getting a little ridiculous and more and more scripted. "TLC: Life Unscripted" indeed.

Anonymous said...

I agree with you, Octavia.

In that same vein, even having been occupied with babies & children the past 20 odd years, Micelle certainly should have known who Dolly is, she's pretty memorable. I'll bet she even cheered to "9 to 5."

Anonymous said...

IMO, no reality show is 'unscripted', and I am not a big fan of TLC these days. I feel that the Duggar family has modernized themselves but why not utilize what is available for the best for your family. There really is no comparison between the banshee Kate Gosselin and Michelle Duggar! How can you compare the children? Yes there are similarity in storylines but that may well be their MO. Just my thoughts and meanderings.

Just An Observer..... said...

octavia said...

"....to meet someone they've never heard of (not one of them knew anything about Dolly Parton, including Michelle, who wondered if Dolly was in Hee-Haw).


Anonymous said...

I agree with you, Octavia. In that same vein, even having been occupied with babies & children the past 20 odd years, Micelle certainly should have known who Dolly is, she's pretty memorable. I'll bet she even cheered to "9 to 5."

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I agree with the above two posters. Especially being from the south, I would have thought that Michelle (all of them) would certainly have heard of Dolly. I am Michelle's age and from up north and I remember knowing who she was from the time I was a child. I wonder if they have ever heard of Elvis!

I have been amazed more than once by the common things the Duggars seem to be ignorant of. Two incidents that stand out in my mind are when Josh and his sisters went to the Kellers to help Anna with wedding preparations. (Take notice the next time these episodes are re-run.)

One of the crew asked the girls if they were familiar with the term "Bridezilla" and the response was, "Bride? Zilla? No."

The second thing was when Josh and his sisters went to the Italian restaurant for dinner. Not only did they not KNOW what some of the typical Italian dishes were, they could not even pronounce them. And I'm not referring to foods such as "calamari" or "prosciutto". Josh had a tough time reading the word "alfredo" on the menu and someone also had trouble with "manicotti". A person need not be Italian or frequent many fine restaurants to know what these foods are. For goodness sake, these are two items that can be found in the grocery store; alfredo sauce on the shelf with spaghetti sauce and manicotti in the frozen food section. Hardly delicacies. Even the "Olive Garden" restaurant chain (of which there are two in Arkansas; Little Rock and North Little Rock) serves these dishes.

I know there were other things I was surprised that the Duggars weren't familiar with, but these two are the only ones I can recall at the moment.

Anonymous said...

I like watching shows about a family's everyday life. Admittedly 18 children is not exactly a normal size family, but it's fun to get a peek into their everyday lives and see how they manage so many children. I don't tune in to see trip after trip.

I don't see the Duggars going the way of the Gosselins because they seem to be a very grounded family with a solid income outside the show. I don't think the vulnerability is there with them like the Gosselins. I don't watch the Little Couple, but apparently they both have jobs and are probably not so dependent on the money either. I saw on a commercial that they did a Hawaii trip recently.

I just don't understand the necessity for all these trips. That's sure not how most of us live.

octavia said...

Anonymous 7/27/2009 10:14 PM said...

"There really is no comparison between the banshee Kate Gosselin and Michelle Duggar! How can you compare the children? Yes there are similarity in storylines but that may well be their MO."

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I don't know if your comment was directed toward mine, where I said that the Duggars are going the way of the Gosselins. I wasn't comparing Michelle to Kate (I agree that there is NO comparison), or the children to each other. I was comparing the way each show began (the day-to-day lives of a "different and interesting" family and how they live) and the way each show has become more and more scripted, with the families going on more and more freebie trips just for the sake of showing something "interesting" on the show.

In that way, yes, the Duggars have gone the way of the Gosselins.

Anonymous said...

I hope that tonight's episode will bring the focus back to their generous goodwill and their strong values and there won't be any more "free trips" to places that clearly have no significance to the family.

I liked the couple of episodes where they went on a mission trip. Personally, I think that was a good way to use the free trips to benefit others, and not to take the glory and goodies for oneself. If TLC wants to send them places to make the show more interesting, they should send them on mission trips where they can actually help people.

They've been on a ton of trips in the past 12 months... Big Sandy, Pigeon Forge, San Antonio, El Salvador, Florida, the Diamond Crater, etc... I am amazed that they have time to unpack (and unwind!) before they load up the bus and head out again. It seems like every episode lately has them going off on some adventure.

I have to wonder, as other posters have, about the quality of their homeschooling. Surely all of these trips is taking a toll on the learning process. It must be difficult for the children to focus attention on their school work, I know that I would have had a difficult time getting my schoolwork accomplished if my family were always packing or unpacking and there were intersting things to do along the way.

Anonymous said...

Just to clarify my previous comment about "going the way of the Gosselins" I was referring to divorce and all bad the publicity coming out of the Gosselin mess on both sides. I honestly can't see something like that happening with Jim Bob and Michelle.

I do believe the TV show is "going the way of the Gosselins". All signs sure point to it.

Anonymous said...

"I have to wonder, as other posters have, about the quality of their homeschooling. Surely all of these trips is taking a toll on the learning process. It must be difficult for the children to focus attention on their school work, I know that I would have had a difficult time getting my schoolwork accomplished if my family were always packing or unpacking and there were intersting things to do along the way."

Ever heard of summer break?? I don't know about you, but I didn't go to an all year round school so like most kids we had 3 months off, I'm sure the Duggars do the same. Along those lines, I have to comment that every homeschooled kid I ever met graduated ahead of schedule. Two of my good friends growing up both got their GED when they were 16, then worked for a family business. To me, it's a matter of personal preference and I certainly don't see anythig wrong with homescholing considering the 50% high school drop-out rate in some inner city communities. (google: the Bronx)

Anonymous said...

Agreeing with the above poster. Also, lots of homeschoolers, like my family, take those 3 months off a week or a day here and there, not all at once. Our family schools 4 days a week, year round, taking off here and there when we need/want to. Public schools generally go 180 days a year. That leaves 185 days in the year that are 'free'.

Many of their trips also have some educational content to them, for example, their trip to Washington D.C. included a trip to the White House.(history, anyone?) I'm sure they took advantage of other historical sites as well. Silver Dollar City in Branson, (which is only an hour and a half from their home according to Mrs. Duggar) has many educational opportunities in the park. You can see glass blowing, candle making, broom making, learn how the pioneers lived, go on a walking tour of a very large cave, learning of all the things inside it from the guide. Pigeon Forge also had educational opportunities(trip to the National Forest). Big Sandy had educational opportunities as well, although some people don't consider their character training and religious values 'education'.

Building onto a home like they were doing at the Bates is also a hands on educational experience. Learning happens all the time and everywhere, not just from 8 am to 3 pm in a classroom. Homeschooling doesn't look like public schooling. That doesn't make it 'not as good' as public school. It's just different. Many homeschoolers have no desire to do 'school at home'. We want to cultivate a lifestyle of learning, create a love of learning in our children. Sitting down and doing school 8 hrs a day is not necessary at all.

Mrs P

CarolS461 said...

I don't usually watch this show, BUT, I happened to see the webisode on the internet today.

I JUST DON'T GET IT! The Duggar women aren't allowed to show any "skin." They aren't allowed to listen to any music other than religious songs.

So, where does ol' Pocket Rocket take the family? To see Dolly Parton! Talk about misplaced priorities!!!!!!!!!

Don't get me wrong...I don't have anything against Dolly. But, for somebody who believes in the women being covered up and doesn't allow anything other than religious music to be played, how can he justify going to see Dolly Parton in her 52MM's heaving out of the top of her blouse, all the war paint on her face, and singing what didn't sound like a religious hymn to me.

Even Michelle Duggar was taking a little bit of a pot shot at Dolly during one of her camera moments. Sounds to me like they were being very judgmental. Uh-oh!!!

THAT'S JUST WRONG! I think they call that being a hypocrite. You don't believe in it, yet you participate in it, then you malign the person behind their back. WRONG!

Sorry if I've offended anyone, but c'mon...either walk the walk and talk the talk or keep quiet.

SuzanneDeAZ said...

My personal take on the Duggars is that the sincerely came to do a room for Mrs. Bates as a thank you and during the discussion JB decided with the help of others to do much more. During the extended project plans TLC must have agreed to do two shows and that is how they got the money to fund the material. Just cause JB buys second hand to save the difference does not mean he is not generous. In fact it is cause he can save money he has more money to give away. Two espisodes at the Bates may have brought in enough money for them to finish the house.

I do not think TLC buys everything in sight as some project. I think there is a contract given to the Duggars and perhaps even the Bates as they were involved in these two shows and from the money contracted the Duggars and the Bates chose to use the money for the project at hand and that is how it got to be so big. I do not think someone with a check book is waiting at the grocery store from TLC to pay the grocery bill. The Bates have been paying for their own groceries for years.

Very Sweet said...

I had never watched a full episode of the Duggars until I happened upon the one with Dolly. Not even a Dolly fan, although I can appreciate how far she has come from her roots after seeing the tiny cabin her entire family inhabited way back when.

She seems as she says about herself completely fake on the outside and completely real on the inside. That's how she seemed to me, too. I thought when she picked up the little girl and said "Say bye-bye, we'll see you in a couple of years" it was something I would've said as a joke holding such a darling little girl.

Can't see that JB or Michelle will need to explain her looks. Do you think they explain every person who doesn't look just like them to their kids? They would do nothing else IMHO.

As I despise, loathe, despise and abhor the Greedy Gosselins, I am finding it hard to understand why I took to this large family except to say that they seemed real to me, non-entitled, not showing kids in towels or on the potty, not belittling kids or each other. They are just likeable.

I won't watch this show again because I want all TV shows, reality (gag) shows that feature kids where the kids are too young to be acting or consenting to be filmed to be taken off the air. But I had to say that Michelle was a sweetheart and I just loved all the kids.

Just Wondering said...

May I ask what religion the Duggars are? I get that they are Christian fundamentalist (or so it seems from what I'm reading here), but do we even know if they are Baptist or whatever? I'm pretty sure they aren't Mormon, are they? It makes no difference to me, I'm just wondering.

imaamy said...

The follow Gothard and the Quiverful movement. They aren't Baptist because when they went to church with the Bates family, it was clear Baptist services were different for them.

Brianna said...

I think that they went to Dollywood because they were invited! I'm quite sure that may have gotten payed to come visit since they were in the parade and were a Dollywood 'attraction."

I think traveling a lot is the biggest upside to homeschooling. It's easier to pack up and leave and see a lot of the world. I think that it's good for kids to see as many new places and meet as many new people as possible.

babies3 said...

Did anyone else notice Anna's sister shouting "LOSER LOSER, BOOOOOOOOOOO" at the producer for not wanting to ride the twirly ride with them?? I couldn't believe it! I never have liked her, she always looks like she's in a bad mood, rolling her eyes and acting pissy.