Tuesday, August 4, Do It Yourself Duggars

The Duggars have settled in for an extended stay with the Bates family. Watch as they begin construction to expand the Bates' house and big families collide again!

30 minutes

140 comments:

Anonymous said...

I can't wait to see the episodes as the renovation progresses.

It's great to see a show where people are actually helping other people and paying it forward.

Anonymous said...

Thanks for the link to the article about the Bates. It answers many questions, but also raises some about the Quiverful lifestyle and the Bates/Duggars. One thing I’ve noticed is that, given the high cost of food and the quantities they consume, why doesn’t either have a garden or keep a modest amount of livestock – chickens, goats, etc. ? Instead they tend to purchase lots of processed and canned foods that are high in sugar, fat and hormones. Surely, canning your own fruit /veg , gathering your own eggs, composting the manure and kitchen scraps could help them live healthier and more sustainably.
This lifestyle is also a great way to teach math, chemistry, organizational/planning skills, patience, kindness, and general stewardship. They certainly have the land and help to make it work. And, if someone’s off shooting the ”View” of GMA, there are plenty of hands to keep things going.

I mean, Tatertot casserole is probably delicious and fun to have a few times a year, but as a regular thing ? You'd better have 911 on speed dial.

Perhaps TLC should have the Planet Green “Wasted” crew come out to Duggers and give them some lessons in recycling, H2O & energy conservation, etc. I’m sure the cost savings would appeal to JB, not to mention the bucket of cash they stand to win at the end. It would also be great to show everyone how small changes can reap significant rewards for all concerned - Duggars and Mother Earth.

Anonymous said...

Not Bates or Bates'. The name is written as Bateses when referring to them in the plural and Bateses' is the plural/possesive.

teacher said...

The plural of Bates is Bateses. Gil is a Bates, Gil and Kelly are the Bateses, and the plural possesive is Bateses'.

The house of the Bates or the Bateses' house. Bateses is cumbersome to look at, but it is grammatically correct.

Kai said...

They have announced the name on their website.
Mackynzie Renèe Duggar

Joanna said...

Anna and Josh have picked a name! They've posted it on their website. Her name is, drum roll please.........................



Mackynzie Renèe Duggar!


Mackynzie is one of my all time favorite names.

Anonymous said...

Wow, that's a really terrible name. I can't stand all of the cutesy spellings of Mackenzie (or whatever way you want to spell it) now. I used to be an education reporter at a metro daily reporter, and most of the classes I covered had four or five McKenzies, Mahkenzys, etc. ... none of them spelled the same way. Way to doom your kid to a life of always having their name misspelled and having problems with insurance and school records.

Anonymous said...

Regarding the name "Mackynzie", in the book Freakonomics, research has shown how the way a child's name is spelled is an almost direct correlation to their parents socioeconomic and educational levels. Meaning, children who have non traditional names and/or spellings are more likely to be from parents with low education or socioeconmic levels. I know before people have commented on whether any of the Duggars ever considered higher education (I know Anna went to college), but just makes you think.

Grace said...

Well, miss Mackynzie will never have to worry about school records or school kids making fun of the spelling of her name, because that child will probably never step foot in a public school. Unless, of coure, she appears in an episode of "The Duggars: The Next Generation" in which Anna takes her litter of children to a public school to read books and compare/contrast their reading lists.

I guess I'm ok with that name, but I can't stand the spelling. That child will stand out whether her name is spelled normally or not, and I can guarantee you that one.

Anonymous said...

The accent mark in the name Renee is backwards. If you're going to place an accent mark in Renee, one uses an accent aigu not an accent grave. The way the accent mark is written on their website means the name is pronounced with a short e (like in egg) on both syllables. And how is the syllable spelled kyn pronounced? Kin or Ken? On one forum, a poster described the spelling of Makynzie as "white trash pageant mommy spelling"

gracie said...

I found Josh and Anna's walmart baby registry- theyre asking for a lot of pink and green so i guess thats what the nursery will look like. From what i saw this registry has a lot more practical things on it than their wedding registry had (i.e. pringles.)

http://www.walmart.com/giftregistry/gr_detail.do?registryId=80511799135

Anonymous said...

The name is fine with me, but I agree with what others have said about the spelling. I find it rather annoying when parents go out of their way to make a normal name have some off-the-wall spelling.

But at least they didn't just make up some weird name! My sister-in-law named all her kids by pointing randomly at a map and combining the names of two places. Thus her first child is named "Malazil" by combining Malaysia & Brazil. I kid you not. D:

What someone mentioned about the book "Freakonomics"... That's really interesting! And I don't doubt that it is true. The sister-in-law I was talking about it rather... uh, "low class" to put it nicely. And many of her girl friends are the same way, and they're all obsessed with giving their kids names that are either made-up or spelled in a crazy way.

Jessica said...

I personally don't really like that name..has anyone noticed that Anna's sister Sue has been in a lot of the recent episodes and she went to the Bates home too.

Anonymous said...

J: "Well, Anna, don't expect any help from me. That naming really wore me out and made me hungry. Once I finish grazing, I'm back to my booming business. Bye, babe."

On another note... It occurs to me that JD is the smart one, really. He's going into towing. Josh may sell a car now and then, but JD will get numerous tows out of the deal. Of course they could be creating a vertical bussiness model - J sells the clunkers and JD tows them. Nah. That takes cooperation and planning.

Anonymous said...

I laughed out loud when I looked at the babies-r-us registry and saw that the "My Breast Friend" wearable nursing pillow has already been purchased. I bet she has learned a LOT about nursing and walking around from Michelle! http://www.toysrus.com/ControllerServlet?searchBy=registrant&defLName=Duggar&defFName=Anna&defCity=&defState=AR&maidenName=&maidFName=&maidCity=&maidState=&registryNumber=&submit.x=54&submit.y=6&target=search&userType=giftGiver&searchForPerson=primReg&whereTo=viewRegistry&firstName=Anna&lastName=Duggar&city=&state=AR

Adele McDonough said...

As for the baby registry, wouldnt old lady Duggar be able to pass down some furniture, or is she not done yet? Oh and shopping at wal-mart is the lowest of the low. Shame on them.

Anonymous said...

I like the name Mackynzie! They must be going with the M-theme then, right? (After Michelle)

I'm due with my first in November ... I think we've decided on the name, Samuel. What do you guys think?

Joanna said...

Mackynzie is the name of one of Josh's cousins (on Michelle's side of course). That's probably the way she spells it. Personally, I don't know how Mackynzie is "supposed" to be spelled. People argue back and forth on names like "Tracy" or "Tracie", "Lexie" or "Lexy" or "Joann" or "Joanne". The name "McKayla" (my niece's name, and that's how we all spell it) is spelled so many contraversial ways. I've known at least three girls with the name "Amy" that spelled it "Amiee" and some spell it "Ami". We can argue how much we want to but the person who spells their name the way the want to or always have believe they spell it the correct way. These often aren't low-educated people, these are fairly bright and well educated people.

P.S. Some spell my name "Joanna" as "Joannah" and even "Johanna", pronoucing Jo-h-anna as Jo-anna. I believe I spell my name correctly and I spell it exactly the way it sounds, but still others will argue that.

anna said...

Oh and shopping at wal-mart is the lowest of the low. Shame on them.

That's a bit snobby, isn't it? Walmart is a great place to save $$

Swissmiss said...

I recall on an old episode that the Duggars invited someone - a neighbor, perhaps - to show them how to plant a garden.

Wonder what happened to that idea?

I think the spelling of that name is going to cause a lot of confusion.

kimmie said...

anna said...
Anonymous said...

The name is fine with me, but I agree with what others have said about the spelling. I find it rather annoying when parents go out of their way to make a normal name have some off-the-wall spelling.
Oh and shopping at wal-mart is the lowest of the low. Shame on them.
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This really makes me laugh! Who are any of us to be fine with their choice of name or not? I didn't ask anyone (but my husband) if they liked the name I chose for my son.





That's a bit snobby, isn't it? Walmart is a great place to save $$

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yes it is...i agree.

Anonymous said...

On the Wal-Mart registry- why do they need 2 "My Breast Friend"'s, (one in pink & one in green)?

The only reason I could think of why they might want both colors is if one is for a boy in the future. But who the heck buys for their "future baby" at the same time they're buying for the current one?? And at $50 a pop, I wouldn't really care if I were using a pink one for a boy if that's the color of the one I already have.

SFields said...

"Oh and shopping at wal-mart is the lowest of the low. Shame on them."

Wal Mart was founded in Arkansas, and the headquarters are located about 15 minutes from where the Duggars live. I live in the same town as the Duggars, and let me tell you, everyone shops there. Wealthy, poor, in-between... we all shop there. It is not "low" it is just "life". It is where you shop. It is convenient and (gasp) cheap! And yes, there are places here where one can buy expensive baby clothes and items. But some people aren't interested in such things.

I can't even imagine what some people would be saying if J & A registered for expensive/elaborate/fancy items.

Professional Editor said...

Great discussion of the plural and possessive forms of "Bates," but please use four "esses" in "possessive."

Anonymous said...

Let's all be "an encouragement" (whatever that means) to Josh and Anna to stand on their collective feet and cleave (as in, to divide) from the general public, and not give anything. Having a registry is fine and helpful, but it's not usually broadcast to the world-at-large. It's time for a little tough love, J&A - you guys are in your 20's, already ! BUY USED & SAVE THE DIFFERENCE.

Anonymous said...

It seems that no matter what the Duggars do, whether it is trying to save money or buying something new, not nursing long enough or nursing too much/in public, eating what they like or planting a garden, it's never good enough for some and someone will always disapprove. They obviously can't do anything right in some people's eyes.



Mrs P

anna said...

Have they broadcast the registry to the world? Or are people just looking it up? Nothing wrong with wanting some new things for a first baby.

Tammy C said...

I agree with the previous commnet-to some people the Duggars can't do right no matter what they do.

At this point in my life I would love TLC do a show on people who lost many jobs due to the economy and they give vacations to them.I would be there in a heart beat!

Unfortunatly TLC would never touch our family-only have 2 children!

Anonymous said...

Last night all 21 Duggars were on Huckabee on Fox News (reruns tonight). Michelle looked amazing. She's definitely updated her appearance slightly. I can't get over how pretty some of the older girls are. Josh was pretty annoying--not surprised about that. Overall, it was a good appearance.

SuzanneDeAZ said...

wow, so many comments before the show is aired.

SuzanneDeAZ said...

I looked at their two registries and see that they put some of the same items in both. I thought the idea of a registry is to keep track that no gift is given twice. If you register a stroller in each of the two given stores what will keep the receiver from getting two strollers, one from each store if the purdchasers are not aware of the other registry? It seems to defeat the purpose when you have two registries. If you want to stores then do not put in the same items. Just a thought.

SarBear said...

Between the WalMart registry and the TRU registry, they have many doubles (car seats, high chairs) and even triple of things (like the My Breast Friend pillow, 2 at Walmart, 1 at TRU)...maybe one of the pillows is for Josh?

octavia said...

I looked at the registries both at Wal-Mart and Toys R Us, and don't understand why they're asking for nearly identical items at both places. They're also requesting TWO of items that a person would only need ONE of. Like crib mattresses on the Toys R Us site. Why do you need more than one crib mattress?

Also, some of the items they are requesting are in blue (crib sets, for example). Are they trying to get items for a baby boy that they may or may not have someday? It's a really strange registry.

Anonymous said...

Maybe they were just so excited they registered before they knew what they were having. I can't imagine that either of their mothers ever had a baby registry so they may not know how they work or what to register for.

Willow #1 said...

Anonymous 8:38 - I so agree with you. I was just going to write that same thought about the registry just being new to them. Besides, can't they return double items? I also caught the family on Mike Huckabee tonight - quite by surprise actually. Everyone looked great and I agree the girls are all just gorgeous - including Michelle and Anna. Little Jordyn just went crazy when the audience clapped - so cute. And John David talked!! He told about the joke he played on Josh at the wedding (about not having the ring). Anxious to see what's up next at the renovation. Everyone have a great week!!

Anonymous said...

I just watched the rerun episode of the Mike Huckabee show featuring the Duggars and the whole family looked great.Joy-Anna looked so mature,she is beginning to look like her older sisters.I was worried though as I watched her handle Jordyn(who is such a cutie) but I am sure she has much practice.They all looked well put toether and happy.Anna looked liked she may be getting a bit far along to be traveling so much though.I like the name Mackynzie by the way.I just wished they had more time with the family but it was a great interview.

SuzanneDeAZ said...

I missed the Huckabee show. Do you know if that show can be viewed online?

Anonymous said...

Yay!!!
http://lotsofbates.com/aboutus.html

Look at the links they have... maybe there is a courtship!

Anonymous said...

Same old questions, same old answers. What's so amusing about pretending to drop a baby in front of someone? Thats a cruel joke, not a funny one...so much for J-O-Y. Josh is a bit too full of himself, funny how Hukabee was not really that impressed about hearing the baby's name.

imaamy said...

Suzanne, just search YouTube for Huckabee and Duggars and it is about 9 min long.

ANNA said...

Why do you need more than one crib mattress?

Sounds like they are planning ahead for baby #2 (and 3 and 4 and...)

ANNA said...

Michelle looks quite tanned and rested. I think she has lost weight too. Her face is thinner.

clanof9 said...

I also saw them on Huckabee last night. Michelle is amazing, she is looking more beautiful and content than ever. And JimBob continues to impress me with how respectful and loving he is to Michelle and the children. Her new hairstyle is so flattering and cute on her. Incredible for a woman who's had 18 kids, she doesn't look haggard or worn out. Just happy and healthy. Amazing. And those kids continually impress me with how well-behaved and cute they are. Even the little ones are so quiet and good. Although I did get a kick out of Johannah making faces at the camera, so cute!

As much as it pains me, I do have to admit that Josh gives me anxiety. Every time he opens his mouth I get all uncomfortable about what he's going to say, and what he ends up saying usually makes me cringe. It's somewhat embarrassing. I don't know quite what the word for it is - I guess it's that he comes across as thinking he's a pretty big deal, there's not enough humility there or something, which is a stark contrast to JB & M and the rest of the family. I also cringe when he continues to bring up the fact that he and Anna didn't kiss or anything else before the wedding. Their decision was truly admirable, and I agree with it 100%, but he brings it up at every opportunity and is quite overbearing about it, and it seems to take the dignity and beauty out of it. It's tasteless to continually brag about it, IMO. That said, I do think Josh is a good young man wih a good heart. I hope he learns to express himself with more humility and class as time goes on.

Also, I love when Anna does her hair like that, wavy and soft. It looks good on her, as opposed to the permed or straightened look.

Ms. B said...

Saw the Huckabee epi last night, despite my disdain for any of the "news" on Fox. I loved their segment! Yeah, It was kind of the same ol' same ol', but It's so refreshing to see them on TV when compared to say, the Gosselins. Whenever the G's are on a show, the kids never stop talking or being disruptive and the twins always look like they can't wait to leave the set. The Duggar family is always so happy to be in front of the camera!Even the little boys know how to behave.

On a different note, I can't wait to see a Duggar/ Gosselin TLC special. I heard that the two families plus the Little Couple were all together doing some TLC promo stuff so hopefully we see what happened during that soon!

Willow #1 said...

I was also a little worried about Anna having to make another trip to NY. I got to thinking maybe they were there, as the other poster mentioned, because of that TLC photo shoot that the others were there for also. I think Huckabee may have used that as an opportunity to have them on. I agree with the poster trying to describe Josh's attitude. It IS hard to put your finger on it. He always lets Anna get about half a word out and then he takes over the story and just beams with it. I wonder if he is so outgoing that he just can't hold himself back. LOL. I agree with those who mentioned that he probably will mellow some with a little age and experience. I'm wondering if Anna's sister is dating anyone? They all sure know how to keep us guessing!!!

Coyote said...

Kai 7/30/2009 12:39 PM,

They announced the name on Huckabee last night. Josh had to slip it in that it was "an announcement". He tried to grab attention, but really didn't succeed. I can't stand that nerd.

imaamy said...

I thought Michelle looked fabulous too, but it was the makeup/hair people from the show doing it. Her eyeshadow matched her outfit, and her hair was styled, even with the bangs smoothed out across her forehead--very fashionable. I wouldn't call it her new hairstyle unless she takes the time to replicate it herself every day.

clanof9 said...

She had that same new hairstyle at the end of last episode on TLC last week also. I'm pretty sure it's her new 'do. I'm sure her girls helped her with it, since the bangs look exactly like how some of the older girls used to wear theirs for years. I'd be surprised if "wardrobe & makeup" is doing anything to Michelle's hair and makeup when she appears on shows, beyond maybe powdering her nose.

Anonymous said...

Everyone is commenting on the "blue" things they registered for but I have to say. The bedding that they registered for, although blue, is not boyish. We actually bought the curtains that go with that bedding and they are hanging in our living room and we constantly get comments about how pretty they are. Our living room is a tropical theme and is neither boy or girl. Perhaps they were trying to get something that was neutral to save money should they have another child that is a boy.

Anonymous said...

I just had a chance to watch the video of the Huckabee appearance. Michelle and JimBob have a beautiful family. She really handled the question about comparing her family to the Gosselins in a kind way and that impressed me. She spoke from experience that most of us haven't had.

As was posted earlier, Josh tried to steal the scene with his "announcement". It didn't work very well for him though. I didn't quite understand why it was necessary for him to reiterate the whole first kiss story other than for more tv time.

One last thought --- barbecued tuna fish? Maybe it's good??

Sam said...

On the Wal-Mart registry- why do they need 2 "My Breast Friend"'s, (one in pink & one in green)?

The only reason I could think of why they might want both colors is if one is for a boy in the future. But who the heck buys for their "future baby" at the same time they're buying for the current one?? And at $50 a pop, I wouldn't really care if I were using a pink one for a boy if that's the color of the one I already have.


In case one gets dirty would be my guess. I think I'd want to be able to wash one while the other is being cleaned or have one to travel. It's not a waste of money if she gets a lot of mileage out of it.

BoyMom said...

"Incredible for a woman who's had 18 kids, she doesn't look haggard or worn out. Just happy and healthy. Amazing. And those kids continually impress me with how well-behaved and cute they are. Even the little ones are so quiet and good"

My thoughts exactly. This family continues to impress me. I just love them. They aren't perfect but they are far from offensive and grating.

Joanna said...

Just saw this week's webisode. Jana cut and laid tile at the Bates' house, in a dress! The camera name asked Jim Bob about that and he said; "Jana's always laid tile in a dress."

So there's an answer to wait at least one of the girls was doing on the house, Jana cutting and laying tile!

Midwest Mom said...

I agree with the poster who said that Josh's continuing story of how he and his wife did not kiss or do anything else before the wedding is getting a little old to hear.

Good for them if that's what they wanted.

But honestly, sexuality is private.

I don't want to hear what anybody "did" or "didn't" do before their wedding.

Good grief, is nothing sacred ?

I feel sorry for his wife, having her most personal business broadcast on national television.

Anonymous said...

When was their wedding day again? And why are we still hearing about his premarital convictions? This 'kiss' thing is simply Josh's claim to fame. I'm pretty sure he's just proud of himself because he's actually done something his dad never did.

clanof9 said...

Well put, Midwest Mom. ITA.

Anonymous said...

I agree that they may have gotten carried away with the registry and registered for more than they needed. I did that the first time I went in for my wedding, and then had to edit. They also may want to register for a few things to keep at the inlaws- it's easier than lugging back and forth. It's just a wish list, not a demand for the gifts.

Willow #1 said...

This was another great episode. I am really enjoying the renovation episodes. Good job on the tile girls! We are remodeling also so it is very interesting to me, plus I love the Duggars and Bates. Mr. Wilson seems very cool as well. That was hilarious when one of the little Duggar boys ate grass and then spit it out. He said Arkansas has better grass. That was hysterical. I enjoyed Kelly talking to Anna and Jana about labor etc. I love Michelle's new hairdo. Oh, and I saw the re-run of the Pigeon Forge cabin. I forgot how funny that was when Jim Bob laughed when the camerman asked him about how he liked making pottery with his wife. He really got tickled and said something about whatever he makes with his wife is fun. I laughed so hard!!! Wish they would have had 2 new episodes this week!!

Coyote said...

Of course the Mom looks great. She gets plenty of rest as the older girls take care of the younger kids, cook, clean, and do laundry.

Kids should have responsibility and chores, but they should not be expected to raise their siblings.

Anonymous said...

Another good episode for the Duggars.This really speaks to their character to see them act selflessly and help friends in need.I was impressed to see Jana laying the tile.A lot of people may not find this to be a valuable skill but it should show the critics that the Duggar females do know how do something other than raise babies and wash clothes.I can't even lay tile! I think it is good for a woman to know how to do typical male duties like building and landscaping. I personally don't do any of these but I wish I did.

I am glad that Anna spoke so much on her own (partly due to the fact that Josh was out working).I was concerned about her traveling so much as well as painting but I guess she is fine.I'm glad to know she is aware of the dangers of traveling so much being that she is pregnant.Her personality really showed on this episode.She seemed less Stepford Wife like and more like a young lady-mom to be.
I like both the Bates and the Duggars and I may be a bit particular for saying this but I felt like the young Bates girl, Tori, was a kind of rude for commenting on the Duggar girl's paint job.She should learn to be a bit more humble and grateful.Some of the Bates children seem a little different. I can't quite put my finger on it, but they do.

I like when they focus on all the families so we get to see and learn more about them.

By the way has anyone noticed how much some of the younger Duggar boys like Justin and Josiah act soooo much like big brother Josh? It's a bit annoying

Joanna said...

I just simply LOVED this episode. One of my favorites. I think my favorite part was the little children watching from the windows.

BNC said...

I agree Coyote! That has always been my beef with the Duggars. I think they are great people and are doing great things. However I do not agree with making the older children take care of the younger children.

Anonymous said...

There definitely is going to be a Bates-Duggar engagement. There's no reason for the families to spend so much time together other than to encourage matchmaking between their children. I also notice Anna's family is never seen and I would have thought they'd be spending time with the in-laws, no?

Jessica said...

Was it safe for Anna to be painting in the room? Also when Josh said I dont need to learn these things about the Bradley method it kinda ticked me..like he isnt expecting to do anything..

Jennifer said...

I like the Duggar family & enjoy watching them.

Anonymous said...

I thought it was a good episode. I too was impresed with Jana's tiling expertise. I thought she should have had some protective eyewear on, though. I also was surprised by the Bates girl complaining about the paint job on the door. What I really don't get is why Josh and Anna (and her sister) came along. This is a really strange way to start a marriage IMO. It seems like they should be spending time together (after all, they're still getting to know each other) without 50 other people around before the baby arrives. If Josh has a real job, I doubt he'd be able to take all of this time off (even though I do believe it's for a great cause).

MarylandMomOf3 said...

I painted when I was pregnant with all three of my kids. It made my back hurt, but the rooms were always well-ventilated, so it wasn't a problem. All three of my kids are very healthy! Poor Anna seemed really tired and stressed out, though. I would have HATED being that pregnant and living in that situation. Josh seems to have no consideration for her feelings, and seemed like he was making a joke out of labor and the Bradley method. He's going to be a terrible labor coach- when you're going 7, 8, 9 + hours without an epidural, you NEED someone supportive there for you and I don't think that Josh is going to cut the mustard. He needs to be taken down a peg or two.

jonandkatewho? said...

BNC said...

I agree Coyote! That has always been my beef with the Duggars. I think they are great people and are doing great things. However I do not agree with making the older children take care of the younger children.

8/04/2009 10:18 PM
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Me three! I think it highly unfair for those kids to be raising their siblings. If they didn't already have so many chores maybe they should help out alot with them, but it seems they do most of the work.

Anonymous said...

Jana cutting tile and laying it in a dress is cool. She's comfortable that way. I was more concerned that she had no eye-protection during the cutting process.

Swissmiss said...

Having only one working bathroom for all those people seems like a health hazard. Why not rent a few porta-johns?

Who is running the used car business back home?

Seems like poor planning for a pregnant woman to be awakened 20 times a night by people wanting to use the one bathroom.

Michelle seems to get younger-looking. How the heck can she do that?

As far as Anna's family not being shown (except for her sister), they live in Florida, so that's a far piece.

Anonymous said...

Kelly Bates must be a saint! I can't imagine having 55 people in one small house, remodeling and tracking all kinds of gunk in and out, and still keeping that great disposition. I realize she had lots of help with the cooking and cleaning but I just don't think many of us would handle all that mess as well as she is.

I agree it was nice to see Anna get to speak for herself. Josh was still the same old annoying Josh. Josiah was a little different than I would have expected when they asked him what he was doing and he said he was just watching and learning.
Jana did a beautiful job with the tile.

I can't wait to see the finished product.

Jennifer said...

I love this family for letting kids be kids-playing in the dirt and rocks, running around, swinging-all things kids should be doing. It's nice to see them not so concerned with keeping the kids clothes clean all day.

Panda said...

You can't help but smile watching this show. I love how Jana was laying tile - that wasn't a simple pattern. I wish I had that skill and not afraid to use a saw. Loved the little boys carry cement block and hauling cement. Compare that to Gosselin boys still on training wheels and wearing bibs to eat grapes. The Duggers are generous with their time and friendship.

nccalgal said...

Jessica said...
Was it safe for Anna to be painting in the room?
There are many brands of paint that no longer emit fumes and are safe for use by and around pregnant women.

Midwest Mom said...

Previously posted: "Even the little ones are so quiet and good".

Not always.

A young Duggar boy (name?) pitched a fit and screamed when he was trying to shovel the concrete out of the wheelbarrow, evidently a sibling was pissing him off.

Also, I've seen where Mom Michelle had to separate one of the young girls and one of the young boys, making them sit quietly on wooden chairs. She quietly told them, ".....this is what happens when you disobey".

The episode where they family was in Central Park, New York City.....a younger Duggar girl got into trouble with Michelle for misbehaving.

The Duggars are absolutely more well-behaved than the Gosselins. But the younger Duggars DO act out sometimes. They're not the angels everyone makes them out to be.
The proof is in the episodes.

Emiku said...

But honestly, sexuality is private.

I don't want to hear what anybody "did" or "didn't" do before their wedding.

Good grief, is nothing sacred ?



I agree with this comment. I have similar values as the Duggars on kissing & courting, but I feel it's a private choice & I don't run around telling people about it all the time. Explaining it in the episodes when they got engaged & married was fine, but at this point I'm starting to cringe a bit every time I have to hear about it.

But knowing the Duggars, continuously recounting the "saved our first kiss till marriage" story is probably their idea of "encouraging" other people to do the same.

Emiku said...

To add to that~ I enjoyed the episode last night. I was wondering how in the world they would finish the Bates' house so quickly, but with close to 50 people working on it from sun-up to sun-down, I guess it's not hard to understand.

I really love Michelle's new hairstyle. It's very pretty & makes her look younger. :)

BoyMom said...

Another great episode! I wish they would do more than one a week. I'm so glad that the Duggars are paying it forward with the house renovations. They got help on their house and now they are helping another family. It's great to see.

Jana and the tile! Wow! And that was no simple pattern-man, that was awesome.

I don't get why Josh and Anna are there. Doesn't he have a business to run? Shouldn't Anna be at home getting ready for the baby-meaning attending her birthing class, getting the room ready, RESTING in her own bed?!

Anonymous said...

Quick question. Are the Duggar kids going to get to go to college? Some of them are obviously quite bright. This has me worried about their future.

bethany said...

why does anna call michelle " mrs duggar" and not mom or michelle? it seems so formal...

motorcitymom said...

I don't necessarily agree that travelling while pregnant is dangerous. I was 8 months pregnant with my second child and flew for work until I could no longer. sometimes you do what you have to do. And Anna's no fragile flower--she's a healthy young woman. There's no reason why she can't just deal with the inconvenience. Some would say that I guess she'd better get used to being woken up by 20 different people since that's probably going to be the size of her family, too!

Now, I will agree that her overbearing husband should at least attempt to protect his wife from such inconveniences, and take into consideration that she's carrying his child. But that's more of a courtesy than a necessity.

But I love this show. I love that instead of tearing out a brand-new kitchen in their own house they travel across a state to help a family renovate a house. I think their heart is in the right place.

Anonymous said...

I agree that Josh is more interested in air time than thinking of Anna. Why did they go in the first place? There were plenty of hands to help.

I also agree that he's going to be a lousy delivery coach if doesn't get serious about helping Anna and stop mocking her. Preparing physically for the baby takes time, sensetivity, commitment and communication from BOTH parties. He appears to be short in more than one category - I can't say anything about Anna, because she rarely speaks.

I hope Anna, or someone he respects, observes this and has a Dutch Uncle talk (jerks a knot in his tail) and adjusts his attitude. Otherwise, they'll be a family of three for a long time.

Snap! said...

The Duggar kids will only go to college if they have all the money up-front according to Jim Bob.

I think the reason that Josh and Anna are there is because they must get paid by TLC- if they aren't there helping the family- then no TLC money that week....

Ms. B said...

Bethany-

I think its formal as well, but my boyfriend insists that I don't call his mom by her first names, only by Mrs. and her last name. I thought it was rude at first but its his culture. Some people do it out of respect to your elders

Coyote said...

8/04/2009 7:55 PM

Josh is just downright annoying to me. He's like chalk scraping on a chalk board. He craves attention.

Maybe that comes from having so many younger siblings. Whatever it is, I hope he's able to get over himself.

Panda said...

I don't find it odd that Anna calls Michelle Mrs. Dugger. She's not her mother, she already has one. I've never in 28 years called my MIL mom. The Mrs. is also a sign of respect - she is only 20 or so years old. When we were kids, if your over 40, you most likely called your neighbors Mr. and Mrs... My neiborhood kids, now in early 20's always called us by our first names - never any respect for others.

clanof9 said...

I know that not all the younger Duggars act perfect all the time. They're kids, and they act like it at times. But they know that when it's time to behave, they are expected to do it. Of all the times I've seen them appear on the Today Show etc., they are always well-behaved, and even the toddlers and babies don't make much noise. I know my own kids couldn't do that.

I think the hubbub about Anna traveling and painting and missing Bradley classes is unnecessary. (For one thing, after having 7 babies, IMO the Bradley classes are WAY overrated. Childbirth just plain hurts, relaxation techniques or not :D )

Anna is very young and healthy, feeling great, and I'm sure wants to be part of the action and be involved in this project. Why would she want to be at home by herself, resting and taking it easy, being bored? There's still plenty of time to set up the nursery. The baby doesn't even really need a nursery until a few months after the birth anyway. A few sleepers, some diapers, a car seat, a bassinet and being attached to Mom about covers it for quite a while. Also, as grating as Josh's personality can be, he does have plenty of construction experience and is probably valuable to this project. Of course she wants to go along. The more hands helping with this project, the better.

I'm so happy for the Bates that they are getting this much-needed space. They are such sweet and nice people. Did I see on one of those ridiculously small popup boxes that the new space is going to have 9 bathrooms? That's got to be a typo. For one thing, that's too many, even for this many kids, and for another, they couldn't fit that many into the space. Must be in the same category as the 600 pairs of underwear?

I too thought it was tacky and rude for the Bates girl to complain about the painting of the doors. I was very surprised. Her older sister, I believe Michaela, was so sweet and gently correcting. Those older Bates girls are just as sweet and pretty as the Duggar girls are. Michaela flies under the radar compared the Erin, who is prettier and gets more camera time. But you can tell she is a wonderful and talented girl also. I have read that she is the family seamstress.

I think all the concern about the Duggars missing school time to do this project is unnecessary also. Are you kidding me? I would LOVE to have my kids doing such hands-on, creative work as a service to others, work that builds skills and character. That is invaluable compared to a few weeks of book-learning. That can easily be made up another time, especially with homeschooling. Those kids impressed the heck out of me. Joseph working all night long to lay tile and sleeping only a few hours? Jana doing a masterful job laying tile, in a dress no less? You rock that dress Jana! Jill and the other girls doing painting and artwork on the walls? These are seriously hard-working kids with skills and integrity, who will go far in life, with or without college. I hope I can take a page out of their book and train my kids to be the same.

I also agree that the episodes need to be longer. They need to give us an hour of the Duggars. You're just starting to get into it and then the credits begin to roll, and then we get the next thirty minutes of a repeat. I have no doubt there's plenty more footage there to make an hour, and pretty much anything this family does is interesting, even just having a meal (at least to me).

bethany said...

i call my mother in law mom ,, she insisted ... i guess it depends on the family and traditions... i also call my mother in law by her first name.... i have 6 kids and have been married 15 years ... i guess it just seemed formal to me. thank you for your responses !! i like this site and like the jon and kate site... thank you all !!

Tetotomom said...

I think that Anna calling Michelle Duggar Mrs Duggar is respect pure and simple. Growing up in the deep South we were taught that kind of respect. You always showed respect to your elders. And you always put a Handle on anyones' name and especially your inlaws.

Anonymous said...

The discussion on what to call your in-laws is interesting to me. I understand the respect thing, but I don't think it's disrespectful not to use the title for your in-laws. Here's why:

Both my husband and I call our in-laws by their first names. When we starting dating and met each other's parents we called them Mr. and Mrs., but switched to first names because they asked us to call them by their first names. I know my parents would be offended if my husband called them Mr. and Mrs. because they consider him a part of the family and using the titles Mr. and Mrs. puts a sort of distance between them. Calling a person by their first name shows familiarity and as a part of the family, my husband should be familiar with my parents.

I think that midwestern culture probably has less emphasis on using titles as a show of respect than southern culture does. To me showing respect is about one's tone of voice, choice of words, and actions. Respect can be conveyed this way, regardless of whether you call your in-laws Mr. and Mrs., their first names, or Mom and Dad.

enough with the multiples said...

Michelle's new do: looks really nice,
Jana doing tile: Jana's awesome!
Anna complaining about having no privacy in the bedroom at the Bates: Get used to it....your honeymoon days are quickly coming to an end Anna. Just wait till that baby's waking you up every 2 hours. And don't expect Joshie to get up...somehow I don't see that happening.

roddma said...

I called my mil by her first name. I was a bit surprised Anna calling Michelle Mrs Duggar after about a year of marriage. Maybe Anna was trying to show respect on TV unlike the Bates girl. I almost wanted to slap her for the rude commment she made about the color for the door. Others are doing the work for you after all. It shows the kids must not get out much. I liked the blue and yellow. I would have threw the brush down.

Anonymous said...

Re: Josh's support of Anna's pregnancy-

Does anyone know if he was anywhere near the delivery room for any of his siblings' births? I have a feeling this fella is one that is going to get woozy at the first sight of blood or having to change a dirty diaper (much worse once the child is no longer breastfeeding.)

For that same reason, I wonder about the possibility of one of the older girls (Jana or Jill) moving in with J&A to be that "encouragement" she will need. This has the added benefit of having built-in chaperones for any courting to be done.

Grace said...

I think the "Mrs. Duggar" thing is only because Anna is young, and it's uncomfortable for her to call an adult by their first name. She is still so young, she's just not used to being an adult and being "allowed" to treat other adults as her equal. I am Anna's age, and I feel awkward calling older adults by their first names without a "Mr" or "Mrs" in front of it. I think she will slowly grow comfortable with her role and eventually call Michelle by her first name. And if she never does.. oh well. At least she's trying to be polite. I can think of worse things.

Anonymous said...

Why should Jana or Jill or any of the older girls move in and help Josh? Don't they have enough responsibilities with raising their mother's children, cleaning, cooking, putting down tile, or any of the other "chores" (let's face it- child labor) without having to raise their brothers child??? What would Michelle do? This would tragically leave one of the smaller kids without a 'buddy' (yuck!) and something terrible could happen to them. Please let these kids have some childhood.

Anonymous said...

Re: Josh's support of Anna's pregnancy-

If Jana or Jill moves in to help, that'll be a very slippey slope and unfair to them. They are not his handmaidens and they didn't marry Anna or make a baby right off the bat. Why should J&A's actions carry consequences for Jana & Jill?

Anna has experience with little ones and so does Josh. That boy's got to graduate and ge over the, "I'm a man and don't do baby stuff."

Frankly, a TLC series re: birth, bringing home baby, learning to cope, could be a train wreck if J continues to be such a dork.

nccalgal said...

I agree with the poster who suggested that Anna may just be referring to Michelle as Mrs. when she's on camera. We really don't know how she addresses her in private. If she is uncomfortable adressing them as Mom and Dad or by their first names, in a few months she'll have an "out" and just call them Granny and Papa!

Anonymous said...

For that same reason, I wonder about the possibility of one of the older girls (Jana or Jill) moving in with J&A to be that "encouragement" she will need.

I assumed that was why Anna's sister had been hanging around so much.

Something Else said...

I also agree that he's going to be a lousy delivery coach if doesn't get serious about helping Anna and stop mocking her. Preparing physically for the baby takes time, sensitivity, commitment and communication from BOTH parties. He appears to be short in more than one category - I can't say anything about Anna, because she rarely speaks.

I think we have to remember that this is their first child. They don't have any idea what to expect and especially not Josh. For most guys the baby isn't something they can really connect with until the baby arrives. So we'll see. I have a feeling my own SO would act in much the same simply because he'd have idea how to handle it.

BL said...

Josh is annoying. He seems to be someone trying hard to have a personality and just comes off as fake and overbearing. Poor Anna.

Regarding the calling MIL Mrs. Duggar, my son recently married and I heard my new DIL calling out at a brunch "Mom, can I get you a drink?". I thought she was talking to her own mother and so didn't pay attention. Everyone thought that was hilarious. It never occured to me, although it is sure okay with me if she wants to call me mom, too.

I'm also from the south (my new DIL is from NH) and I think it does make a slight difference. Lots of times in the south we call older relatives and friends of our parents and in-laws Ms. Jean or Miss Louise. Instead of being formal, they use the first names but add the title.

Tetotomom said...

Anonymous said...

The discussion on what to call your in-laws is interesting to me. I understand the respect thing, but I don't think it's disrespectful not to use the title for your in-laws. Here's why:

Both my husband and I call our in-laws by their first names. When we starting dating and met each other's parents we called them Mr. and Mrs., but switched to first names because they asked us to call them by their first names.


That is exactly what I was trying to convey ...until the older people give you permission to call them by their first name you always put a handle on it.

Midwest Mom said...

I had one more comment about Josh's continuing bragging re: his lack of kissing (or anything else) prior to marrying Anna.

Josh probably feels like it's "ok" to share this very personal information on television, because after all, good ole' Dad made similar comments about wife Michelle.

I distinctly remember any episode where Dad Jim Bob told the camera that wife Michelle had "several boyfriends before they got married" and because of that, "she came to the marriage with baggage". (She was what? 18 when they got married? How much "baggage" could she have had?)

Are you kidding me? Who says that about their wife on national television ?

No wonder Josh is so disrespectful of Anna's feelings, it's all he knows from the way he was raised !

Admirer said...

Some thoughts -
Perhaps one reason Josh & Anna are so eager for air time is....perhaps TLC pays each time an individual is on air???

I wonder what kind of a contract they have with TLC? Unlike the 'other' family, I don't think Paul Peterson is out there fighting for children's rights for this family, even though there are many little ones. so, maybe they have a different kind of contract that allows for the kids to earn for themselves? (remember Aunt Jodie?)

Don't get me wrong - if they get paid per screen time, I have NO problem with that. It could help pay for college if some want to go, build a nest egg for those who want to marry and settle down (JD - get your face on screen more often so you can support a wife!) And, self employed people like JB, Josh and JD, usually either don't have health insurance or have to buy expensive individual policies.

If this is exploitation, it seems to be a different brand than those other folks (ripping out a perfectly good kitchen, indeed!) one that is very practical, not selfish or greedy.

Mike Huckabee asked how JB & M can afford to have so many children and they did NOT mention the $ they are getting from TLC. We all know they are making PILES of money, but it is how it is being used that is different.

Example? Just who is paying for all this cement, lumber, tile, roofing, etc. etc. for the Bates' add-on? If they had the money, they probably would have added on a long time ago. I would bet that the Duggars are sharing some of the bounty they have gotten from TLC and they (along with the other families who worked on the job?) are paying for it.

As for the pop-up "bubbles" on the show with so much wrong info? I wonder if it's on purpose to see if anyone notices!?! They also had a bubble saying Michelle now has a blog, but I couldn't find it.

It is frustrating that the Bates' website is not finished yet, but that is probably all related to TLC as well. After all, she has surely had that baby by now, the house addition is probably finished, and there might even be an engagement (or 2?) to announce, but they can't put that on their website if TLC is planning future episodes about those things.

It is interesting to see how this series has evolved (although bringing evolution into it may not be appropriate - ha ha). It started with one family and a premise of so many kids, but now we have a second family involved, and extended family, and friends, and we are interested and caring about all of them! Sooooo different that those others!!

nccalgal said...

To Admirer:
At least family has friends and relatives that are included in the lives of the children!

Jinger Rocks! said...

The older Bates boys (Lawson and Zach) are good looking. Hope Jana gets the hook-up (or whatever they call it in Duggar-speak).

Has anyone heard if Kelly had her baby? How about a Bates/Duggar engagement?

TLC should do a show on both sets of twins. As it is, the show doesn't focus all that much on Jana, John-David, Jeremiah and Jedidiah. And they could name it: Double Duggars.

About the $$$: If the Duggars are spending their TLC money on the Bates addition, I'm all for it. It's better than a $2000/month NY apartment or trips to the south of France with your 22 year old gf.

Love, Love, Love this Show said...

Just wanted to add my two cents about Anna calling Michelle "Mrs. Duggar".

I am from the South and called my MIL Mrs. ... for a long time; we were never really close and my Mom died the same year that I got married, so I never wanted to call her Mom and she never asked. When my son started talking, she wanted him to call her Nana. By the time my daughter came along and started calling her Nana, my aunt suggested that I do the same. I took her advice, and nearly 20 years later I'm still calling her Nana. I'm sure somewhere along the way Anna will find something else to call Michelle besides Mrs. Duggar.

Anonymous said...

I was actually trying to be a bit sarcastic when I posted earlier about the older girls helping J&A, but I didn't even think about her sister, hmmm...

I do agree that many guys don't fully appreciate what is involved with a pregnancy, yet Josh has seen his mom go through this 17 times...even if he didn't start paying attention until he was older, you'd think he would have picked up on some things if only through osmosis & living under the same roof. As it is, he's acting like a middle schooler, as if he's trying to stop from giggling while discussing the topic. But in a way he is. After all, it was barely a year ago that he was married (we all know that situation.) Who knows, maybe he will surprise us all & jump right in to help his wife when the time comes.

Anonymous said...

Does no one think that these kids are also being exploited? Josh and Anna's child will be exploited from day one.

Anonymous said...

Yes, they are being exploited to a large degree. The fact is, any Duggar under the age of, what, 5? has been raised with the lights & cameras as all they know. No different than the "Eight."

kaekae said...

It's a southern thing (or just a polite thing). Use a title until told otherwise. One person can have many names used by many different people and can be disrespectful or respectful depending on the person and the attitude. e.g. my Mom is Miss Nellie; Mrs. D___; Mom, Mom D, Grandma and Nellie to my uncle/aunt and Dad. but mostly now she is Grandma, because we are talking to her with kids around to about her to the kids.
My BILs call her Mom D because they have/had moms that they love and want to reserve that title for them. And I understand that
BTW - it can be very confusing using the same name for everyone. IIRC, my mom said Dad and my dad, granddad and several BILs said Yes Ma'am or came in the room to see what she needed.

Anonymous said...

I was wondering how old Kelly Bates is I am pretty sure she is younger then Michelle... If so maybe she could outnumber the Duggar pack

Anonymous said...

I also agree with the exploitation. Just because these children are better behaved doesn't mean that they enjoy being followed by cameras everywhere. It is very odd to me that these children as so sheltered in many respects (homeschooling, home church, not moving out or going to college after graduating, not dating) yet are exposed to thousands of viewers every week. If the real world is so scary that they need to be protected from it until they are old enough to resist the temptations of it, doesn't it seem weird to broadcast their lives and invite the entire world to comment on it? In some ways, it might be good for them to hear that not everyone agrees with everything their parents do since they are rarely exposed to alternative points of view. But I don't think any child should have to deal with being a celebrity and having people comment on their behavior, clothes, etc. on any given day. I wouldn't want that kind of scrutiny as an adult. I can't even imagine it as a child.

Anonymous said...

I also call my MIL "Mrs." and I am from the Northeast and I am no spring chicken. I just feel more comfortable calling her that instead of calling her by her first name or calling her Mom. I also do that for any adult that is older than me. My MIL and I are close and she has told me I can call her by her first name but I just don't feel comfortable doing it. I am not seeing the big issue with what Anna calls Mrs. Duggar.
What I do see as a potential issue is what is going to happen to these children when America is tired of watching and the cameras are turned off. How are they going to cope in the real world where most people are not filmed twenty-four/seven (or at all) and no one cares you where on some TLC reality show? What will they do when people do not understand what "Duggar Time" is and that it isn’t going to fly and they have to be on time? What happens when there is an over abundance of used car dealerships and towing companies in the area and they may have to get a job that requires some education and they have to interact with people who are not like them on a daily basis? Don't get me wrong, it warms my heart to see all those good deeds they do and they do seem like a very happy, loving family; however, one day those cameras will stop rolling and I just wonder if they have prepared their children for this. It may so stupid, but many of those children have grown up with those crew members and staff as family and what are they going to do when one day they have packed up and are gone.

Anonymous said...

I know many will disagree with me here, but least the the show is primarily exploiting the Duggars' positive and wholesome characteristics. I've never seen any of the kids half-naked, sitting on the potty, getting showered, throwing a fit, throwing up, or saying/doing ugly things toward their siblings. I've never seen Michelle making fun of her husband's appearance or personality. I've never heard either parent verbally humiliate one of the kids. You rarely hear raised voices in that house. To me, it seems like the family is only gaining from this experience. And the good thing is that the kids aren't allowed to surf the internet, go to school, or watch TV, so they are unlikely to hear public criticisms about their family.

Anonymous said...

Whether they read about it online, see themselves on tv, or not, they must hear the whispers and feel the stares of people outside their hometown (NYC, Dollywood) and that has to affect a person.

Other thoughts:
Josh's used cars- might be fewer of them in the future as the clunkers are destroyed.

JB's investments- wouldn't they have tanked just like everyone else, perhaps giving more incentive to keep the cameras rolling?

Anonymous said...

Amy just posted on her facebook that Mrs Bates is in the hospital. She is having trouble breathing and her lungs are filling up with liquid. Please pray/think positive thoughts for her, the baby, and their family.

Anonymous said...

This was just posted on Amy's Facebook:

PRAY for mrs. Bates and the baby shes having a hard time breathing her lungs are filling up with liquid she needs prayer..

:(

imaamy said...

I am so sorry to hear that. Wasn't the baby due already? Hope both will be well.

luvmybabies said...

Oh my goodness, is this true? Has anyone else heard this? I know I am praying for her. What a sweet, wonderful lady. I hope she and the baby come this just fine.

Anonymous said...

When I saw the recent episode, I wondered how the Bates felt -- to be surprised by two large families landing on their doorstep, planning to rip up their house.

Kelly was 8 months pregnant. Her house was torn up--there was only one bathroom--and there were 50 plus people around, including many small kids. Her whole routine was disrupted.

Then Michelle announces that this was the time for the Bates to be "gracious recipients." Please.

Perhaps it would have been more gracious if they'd asked the Bates WHEN they'd like a renovation. When would be a good time for you? Instead of doing a "big surprise" for the camera. It seems satisfying the camera crew was more important than the Bates' convenience.

Now it appears she is having a difficulty, dangerous delivery.

I feel so bad for her and her baby! And I feel so mad at the Duggars popping in to renovate, like royalty, without showing any consideration to their beneficiaries! Like, how about at least renting some portapotties for the pregnant women? Although even using a portapotty when you are 8 months pregnant is pretty gross.

Maybe all that poor woman wanted for Mother's Day was some peace till her baby came.

Anonymous said...

Plus, the home renovation project is unfinished! What a mess!

Who comes, starts a project, and leaves it unfinished when it is a home for 16 kids and a very pregnant lady.

chocolatebee said...

The last few posters made comments about the Duggars being inconsiderate with the renovations. First of all the Bates had already began renovations themselves. The Duggars and Wilsons just came to lend a hand and make the renovation more than the Bates could have realized alone.How can you criticize such a wonderful gesture?

And for those who are posting about Kelly Bates and her baby, Kelly was due in a few weeks back in May. I am assuming she already had her baby.Your source may not be real so I would be leery about reprinting suspect information especially something so serious.

Anonymous said...

Hear, Hear. I thought EXACTLY the same things. I, too have Kelly in my thoughts.

clanof9 said...

Oh my...well, I suppose that's one way to look at it. But isn't that a glass is half empty viewpoint? Instead of looking at the inconvenience of all the people there, they could be looking at all the hands there are to help. And although it's definitely a disruption, it is a temporary problem with a long-term gain.

Keep in mind that when the Duggars and Wilsons first arrived, they intended it to be a small laundry room addition only, probably taking a few days at most.

Gil Bates was also on camera saying he would have been glad to have them all come for a visit just for the fellowship alone, but the addition was an unexpected bonus. When is it a good time to rip up your house? Postpartum with a newborn would be no better. It's just a big project that is unpleasant to get through and the sooner the better.

It looks to me like they all enjoy being together despite any inconveniences. I think it's a stretch to say that the project the Duggars are doing for them contributed to any health issues Kelly Bates might be having.

On a side note, Gil has said there's an outhouse on the premises somewhere. Hopefully all the men and older boys were using that and leaving the bathroom for the women and children as much as possible.

Kelly Bates is a sweet and wonderful woman and I dearly hope and pray she and the baby are healthy and that the baby is born safely.

Joanna said...

The project was nearly done when the Duggars left and two of the Duggar boys stayed behind to help finish up. I'm sure one is John David and the other might be Joseph. The didn't leave it "that" undone. There was still eletrical work and a few odds and ends. It might be done by now.

Anonymous said...

It would have been more help if JB and the four older boys came alone, with Mr. Wilson. What was the whole crew doing there?

I don't think anyone was suggesting that Mrs. Bates' illness (if she is ill) was connected to the renovation.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous #2 said... "I don't think anyone was suggesting that Mrs. Bates' illness (if she is ill) was connected to the renovation."

It seems like that's exactly what Anonymous #1 was suggesting:

"Perhaps it would have been more gracious if they'd asked the Bates WHEN they'd like a renovation. When would be a good time for you? Instead of doing a "big surprise" for the camera. It seems satisfying the camera crew was more important than the Bates' convenience.

Now it appears she is having a difficulty, dangerous delivery."

Anonymous said...

Michelle calls Jim Bob's mom "Grandma" (and refers to her, in some cases, as "Grandma Duggar"). Maybe when Baby "Macky" arrives and Michelle becomes "Grandma/Nana/etc", Anna will also call her by that moniker. They could be Baby Macky and Nana Micky...lol:)

Sharla said...

The discussion about this episode has turned heated and in some cases personal. I'm kind of surprised in a way. However, in an effort to keep things civil don't be surprised if some comments about the facilities especially don't make it through. Perhaps we can go back to the square footage discussion again? Was the bubble really wrong? The original house looked larger than 1000 square feet didn't it? Are they adding extra windows on the side for the rooms that used to be on the front of the house?

Anonymous said...

the attic probably wouldn't be counted in the square footage. it is not likely that it counted as a bedroom, which would have to have a closet and an independent means of egress to actually be a "legal" bedroom. it also likely would not have been built to the code that a room meant to support furniture and many people would require - attic conversions are generally illegal for this reason. it is a very good thing that the house is being renovated, for the safety and comfort of all.

as far as the bathroom to bedroom ratio, this may be true, as i believe property taxes are often based, in part, on the number of bedrooms in the home, so there would be little economic advantage in creating many extra bedrooms, and a huge advantage of convenience and comfort in squeezing in as many bathrooms as possible.

regarding the supposed "surprise": uh, seriously? there were camera crews and lots of planning evident. i doubt very much that there was an actual spur of the moment surprise involved. and i'm sure the batses were delighted with the "invasion" and its results. hopefully, they will be able to afford the huge jump in taxes, but no doubt jim bob thought of that and helped with the calculations.

i wish them all well, but whether mrs. bates and new baby were ill or not, i hope they'll consider giving the stork a rest. i'll never forget the episode where the bateses were obviously distraught that their prayers for impregnation #17 were a little slow in being answered. this behavior is addictive and dangerous. these women are sacrificing their own health as well as the futures of their extant blessings on the altar of the quiver, and i don't believe that God or man would or should require this of them.

God bless and protect us all.

Anonymous said...

What everyone seems to missing is that the Duggars are living thier faith...they worked very hard in the early years to build thier businesses (both partents have liscences to sell real estate and insurance) and invest in commerical property that earns rental income...the property that the cell phone companies thought would be good for thier tower, the properties that are rented as garages, etc. This allows them the freedom to now live thier lives to spread God's message, to love your neighbor as yourself.

Yes, they take a literal interpretation of the Bible. They stay convicted of thier beliefs and live that way, cameras or not. They aren't perfect, but they do live as true to thier beliefs as they can....How many families can say they all get together at once to help out another family? To join together to live for the glory of God? That is why they have a TV show.

Joanna said...

From Discovery Health board:

QUOTE: "Amy has posted on FB that the baby girl, Callie-Anna Rose, was born 6 days ago."

ANNA said...

I thought this baby was due in May?

imaamy said...

Mrs Bates had a miscarriage which might have been the one due in May. Not sure of the timing but it was mentioned in an earlier thread.

Anonymous said...

That's funny no one made a comment about how in the 2 minutes Josh spoke he managed to make a comment at his wife saying HE was the one who had fallen in love first...

I read their story on their site and it doesn't seem like they had much time to fall in love, or to speak at all.

Anyways just one more way to get camera time... I really dislike him and I wonder if Ana is sad about having decided to marry this guy without much knowing about him or if she'll ever get that feeling...

Anonymous said...

Anyways just one more way to get camera time... I really dislike him and I wonder if Ana is sad about having decided to marry this guy without much knowing about him or if she'll ever get that feeling

I think at this point she is very happy with her choice. Josh comes across to me as fairly obnoxious, but since I don't know him personally I can't judge. He may be wonderful in person. I have a feeling he is young and is still acting his way to his ideal of "Godly Manhood". Possibly he will mellow as he ages. I know in my case I was much more of a know-it-all at 20 than I am today at 51. Life and hard lessons have tempered my character for the better. Frankly, I think he acts like a clone of Jim Bob, minus the hair spray.

Anonymous said...

Well Jim Bob didn't get to mellow in front of cameras... and as for you I'd guess it wasn't your case either...

Anyways I think that's why it may be good not to get married so young... he's gonna have a kid and hasn't got the time to be "mellowed" by life

Anonymous said...

he's gonna have a kid and hasn't got the time to be "mellowed" by life

I think he will learn via experience, just like every other young parent since the beginning of time. I frankly have never met very few 20 year olds who were fully equipped to be good parents prior to the advent of their spawn. You learn from your kids, just like they learn from you. Experience is a good teacher.

Joanna said...

Well I'm used to goofy, obnoxious men. Most of them "DON'T" mellow much with age. It's just who they are and while they annoy me, they also made me laugh.

I agree that Josh is quite annoy, but he's also quite mature in some area and he's very loving. I agree that he over does it, but at the same time it's hard not to love him.

And if these are Josh's "negative" quilites (with the exception of always being late), then I'd say Anna has it made.

Anonymous said...

does anyone know what sex the new bates baby is?