Tuesday, July 14 - Duggars in Dixie

The Duggars are packing and preparing for a trip to Pigeon Forge, Tennessee. Watch as the Duggars take in the best of Dixie, including a trip to Dolly Parton?s famous Dixie Stampede.

30 minutes

94 comments:

Anonymous said...

All those fans of Cousin Amy on Facebook can see photos from this trip on her home page.

BoyMom said...

Don't the Bates live in Tennessee? Maybe they will eventually announce John David's engagement. I would bet money that he is with a Bates girl.

I'm loving the new episodes. Did TLC renew them for another season?

Jim S said...

There's a slideshow on the TLC website as well....otherwise known as "A Very NIKE Moment with Dolly Parton."

After all we've heard, I'd love to know how Jim Bob and Michelle explain the cleavage, which is there in full, low-cut force.

Oh, No, They Didn't..... said...

I just left TLC's website, where I was checking out the pictures from the Dixie trip. There were two photos that gave me pause:

1) Photo #3--Anna and Josh "at the wheel" of the motor home. (TLC's caption). Never having been in a motor home, I'm not sure to what extent seat belts are required; however, I would presume that, at the very least, the driver would need to wear one. Josh is clearly not, in this photo, and neither is Anna, although she is visibly pregnant and it appears to be nighttime (it is dark outside the driver's side window). To me, this is dangerous for them both and their baby; driving unbelted in the dark poses an even greater risk (IMO) as visibility is limited.

2) Photo #4--John-David and Jessa (I think it is really Jinger, not Jessa) are playing a game at the dining table and Jessa/Jinger is wearing a shirt with some wording on it. All of what is written on the shirt can't be seen, but the last word is, without a doubt, "suck!"...as in "That sucks", "Life sucks", etc. I am shocked that she would be allowed to buy that, yet alone wear it! I would think that the Duggars seeing a person wearing this shirt in public would qualify as much a "NIKE" moment as Dolly's cleavage. LOL.

Anonymous said...

I enjoy the new episodes and heard on TLC that the show would be viewing on Thursday now. Otherwise, I dont have much to mention about all the Dolly Parton "Nike" moments lol... Lord knows there are plenty.

imaamy said...

In one of the photos, one little boy is looking up at Dolly like she is scary. Too funny. I do see the one where they are playing boggle and her shirt says something "sucks." Hmmmm....

imaamy said...

Wow the older kids look so thrilled to be watching Animal Planet! And do Josh and Anna ever not cling to each other? Yuck!

Anonymous said...

Did anyone see the sarcastic look on John David's face when they were talking about what kind of movies they get to watch? After his brother was saying they watch creation movies etc, the camera when to John David and he gave this look like "I'm 19 and this is all I get to watch on TV, greeeaaat" haha

Sarah said...

CONFIRMED: Jinger Nicole Duggar wore pants. As in an item of clothing worn on the lower part of the body from the waist to the ankles, covering both legs separately

Rory said...

Yep, Jinger's shirt definitely says "suck." Wonder how that got past her parents.

I wish Michelle and Jim Bob would take that ridiculous pacifier out of Jennifer's mouth. She's almost two, right? It seems she always has a pacifier in her mouth and that's not good for her speech development or her teeth.

I agree that Josh should be wearing a seatbelt, unless TLC just wanted to get a shot of him and Anna at the wheel of the RV when they weren't really driving.

Willow #1 said...

I thought this episode was great. I think one of the reasons I love the Duggars is that my childhood was so opposite - kind of lonely. I came from a small family and I would love to be in a family like the Duggars. They seem to really have a lot of fun. My hat is off to the parents for creating such a loving and fun atmosphere for their family. From what we know so far, I doubt the Duggar kids have much stress in their life. I think the positives far outweigh the negatives, IMO. Also, wasn't their "cabin" great? I enjoyed seeing Pigeon Forge and it looks like a fun place.

fancythat said...

Seeing them travel in the motor home gives me the willies. No one is seat belted including the driver. The kids wander all over the place and sleep on bunks. God forbid there is an accident where the home tips or rolls over. --shudder--

Anonymous said...

I'm guessing the photo of J&A at the wheel was posed & the detail of the seatbelt was overlooked.

Anonymous said...

As much as I love the Duggars I have to admit I have some concerns about their habits. First of all Josh driving the bus with Anna hanging from his arm, doing an interview,with no visible seatbelt seems careless.It really dangerous how they all hang around and stand in the front window and door of the bus. Not only does this obstruct the view of the driver, it is so dangerous for the ones standing. Two of the boys were standing in the window. Had Josh had to suddenly hit the brakes they could have gone through the windshield.

I also watched the tlc.com episodes where they were watching tv. The Duggars seem to be embracing a lot of modern convinences that they once objected to. TV, laptops, IPods, etc.

And I can definitely see why Jim Bob and Michelle have 18 kids.They love the PDA! Man, I see where Josh and Anna get it from. To say they are so conservative the Duggars sure like to show affection once they are married. The constant kissing is borderline annoying.

It was good to see everyone having such a good time though in the Zrob Balls. Even Michelle got in on the action. This puts those constant pregnancy rumors to rest. Speaking of does anyone know when Kelli Bates baby is due? I know she became pregnant after Michelle. I was just wondering because she didn't seem pregnant the last few times I've seen pictures of her.

Anonymous said...

I was wondering why it was necessary for Josh and Anna to share the driver's seat of the bus. It definitely wasn't a smart idea - but then they appear to be joined at the hip. I don't enjoy watching the 2 of them at all.
Other than that, I enjoyed the Pigeon Forge episode as well as the Birthday episode that followed. The Duggars seem to be a genuinely nice family who enjoy each other's company. I've had a major change of attitude about Jim Bob over the past few episodes. He seems to really enjoy his children and has a good time with them.

Duggarriffic! said...

I happen to love the Duggars. I agree the last couple of episodes have been a tad bit boring, but this one was great! I missed the part about Dolly's cleavage[fill me in!] It looked like they had a great time, I was very happy for them! :]

ForrestJ5 said...

The "suck" Jinger's shirt refers to an event in Conway, Arkansas called Stuck on a Truck @ ToadSuck. It's one of those competitions where contestants place their hands on a truck and have to maintain contact with the truck for as long as possible in order to win a prize. Her shirt is not intended to be in poor taste.

Willow #1 said...

I need to add a little more - That was so cute when one of the little guys thought the hot tub was "where you get baptized". Too funny.

SuzanneDeAZ said...

I was impressed to see both ma and pa Duggar rool down in the water ball!

SuzanneDeAZ said...

I thought the Kissy kissy event when making the pottery was fun. It sure is nice to see the Ma and Pa Duggar so much still in love after 18 kids.

SuzanneDeAZ said...

I am confused. Is this new? I thought it was new however at the end when they watched a show while eating I remember they did something like that last year.

Joanna said...

I'm really enjoying Michelle "NOT" being pregnant and seeing her do things that pregnant women can't do. Amazingly, she seems to get thinner after baby now.

If I'm asked if I had would have 18 children or anywhere close to it, my answer is; "They only way that would happen is if God wanted me to adopt alot of children or if I several muptile pregnancies (like 3 triple or more, and I'd probably have my tubes tied if I had triples).

If asked what would be the hardest part; the pregnancies, one after another with restivie movement and activity. I "LOVE" my freedom and want to run with my children, play sports, get on rides, jump on trampline, dance, jump in the water and skate, everything. I want my freedom of movement and activities and to do all the things I've always done. Not to be constantly pregnant and limited freedom.

Being that I'm now 28 and haven't even exprienced my first date and never been anywhere close to a courtship, I certaintly won't have the time to pop out some half a dozen babies. Adoption is a whole different story and I could end up adopting two or more. Only God knows what the future holds, and I'm enjoying being single because I may not be forever.

If the Duggars meet me, they'd probably tease me being an old maid or something! I definltly want a family more then anything in this life (always have), but that's entirely up to God.

Joanna said...

I think Josh and Anna in the driver's set was a pose picture, not actual driving. That's what I thought when I saw it.

Jill, Ginger, and someelse, I think Jessa, were wearing long shorts. I'm praying for the chance to go to Pigoen Forge and Dollywood and definitly want to see that Stamplied show now!

msrylee said...

I, too, was not impressed with the children and adults, especially a pregnant woman, not wearing seat belts. If there was a sudden braking situation or even a crash, it would be a disaster waiting to happen. Also, does anyone know the rules and regulations about seat belt and child safety seat use in those states? Are there exceptions due to riding in a bus? Even if seat belts are not required for this family, I think it is irresponsible of the parents to allow the family to be roaming all over. Life is precious and can be taken in a heart-beat.

Anonymous said...

Jinger did NOT wear pants! That was one of those modest bathing suits.

fancythat said...

and other thing- that hot tub and all those curious little ones. I hope they have more supervision than what appears on the show.

clanof9 said...

The reason Josh & Anna are always clinging and kissing is because they have a lot of time to make up for! They barely even touched each other before the wedding, and remember, they've only been married 9 months! They are very much still on their honeymoon it would be worrisome if they didn't show plenty of affection. Married couples in general (no matter how long they've been together) should show each other more affection, in public and otherwise, IMO.

How cute was it that JimBob was showering Michelle with kisses at the pottery wheel? And his sweet comment about looking like she hasn't had any kids at all. This couple is amazing. I never see them snap or be impatient with each other. So different than the Gosselins always were.

To the poster that said they were surprised for such a conservative Christian couple, that J & M show so much affection, that made me laugh. Conservative Christians believe in affection in the context of marriage, and lots of it! We aren't opposed to affection in general! We believe in happy, loving marriages with lots of affection, and aren't afraid to show it. J & M and J & A always show plenty of kissing and PDA, and while it may annoy some, it's entirely approriate and healthy, and has never crossed any boundaries of propriety.

Anonymous said...

I believe the laws are different for motor homes and buses. Many school buses don't have seat belts. Those tour buses sports teams and celebrities go around in? You can bet they aren't wearing seat belts. They're roaming around in there, that's the reason they travel that way, for comfort & convenience. Perhaps not the safest, but that's what they do. I doubt the Duggars bus even has real seats with seat belts for everyone in there, it's a touring bus designed for flexibility. I don't know if I'd have the fortitude to make 22 people stay strapped in seats for 13 hours straight either.

clanof9 said...

Jinger has always had dark shadows under her eyes, like slightly smudged mascara. It's like the skin is more pigmented there or something, because they aren't like the dark purple you see when people are tired, etc. She's still a very cute girl though.

Midwest Mom said...

Good grief, is TLC scraping the bottom-of-the-barrel when it comes to airing footage about the Duggars?

I'm referring to the part where they showed John David (?) emptying the sewage tank on the bus.

Enough already.

Melissa said...

FYI For those confused, this was a different dinner show. The previous one was filmed at the Dixie Stampede in Branson, MO. This time they were at the Dixie Stampede in Pigeon Forge. Both Dolly, although I believe she is more involved in the TN venture, as she only makes rare appearances at the Branson show.

I thought this showed a more fun side to the Duggars. I loved seeing Michelle in that ball! And while I didn't need to see Jim Bob kissing all over Michelle's neck at the pottery wheel, it was nice to see that after all this time they are still so in love...after all the years and all the kiddos! Good for them.

As for seat belts, not required in a motor home. Infact, I know that even regular pick up trucks, if registered as commercial in Missouri (anyone really can do that) do not require the driver to wear a seat belt. I would guess the driver's seat belt situation in the bus could be dependent on how the vehicle is registered? Only speculating.

RPW said...

The Duggars started heading in the direction of J&K+8, when they alluded to one of the little boy's "accidents." What's next, showing the little girls on the potty? I always liked that the Duggars seemed have a line they wouldn't cross, unlike the G's. Let's hope they're not compromising that for the sake of the show!

Admirer said...

Someone said here, and I've read it before, that this episode, or that one, or the whole show, is boring. I would rather watch this any day instead of kids screaming for 30 minutes at the dentist, at the crayon factory, at the amusement park, (virtually everywhere they go), sassing her Mom at the American Girl thing......you get the idea.

I don't agree with every aspect of the Duggars lives, but the more I watch the show, the more impressed I am with them as a family. I grew up in the typical small, dysfunctional American family, and like one other poster, I sort of wish I was surrounded by a large, fun family that enjoys and loves one another.

maria said...

clanof9 said...

The reason Josh & Anna are always clinging and kissing is because they have a lot of time to make up for! They barely even touched each other before the wedding, and remember, they've only been married 9 months! They are very much still on their honeymoon it would be worrisome if they didn't show plenty of affection.

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I see what you mean, but the way they hang on each other and do the kissy kissy all the time, I don't see them as being in the honeymoon phase as much as I see them still being in the middle-school phase. Think about it. Their behavior really is like a lot of middle-schoolers and high-schoolers. It's understandable, though, considering their relationship prior to the marriage.

SuzanneDeAZ said...

"Midwest Mom has left a new comment on the post "Tuesday, July 14 - Duggars in Dixie":

Good grief, is TLC scraping the bottom-of-the-barrel when it comes to airing footage about the Duggars?

I'm referring to the part where they showed John David (?) emptying the sewage tank on the bus."

I just knew someone on this forum would make a comment about that scene as it bothered me as well. ugh!

Enough already

Aspenearth said...

I agree with Admirer. Very well said!
I think this family is outstanding. They really seem to love their kids, and in the end isn't that what it's all about? Loving your kids!
I would definitely watch this any day over narcissist Kate and her screaming kids.
The Duggars always leave me with a smile on my face.

clanof9 said...

Maria said...

I see what you mean, but the way they hang on each other and do the kissy kissy all the time, I don't see them as being in the honeymoon phase as much as I see them still being in the middle-school phase. Think about it. Their behavior really is like a lot of middle-schoolers and high-schoolers. It's understandable, though, considering their relationship prior to the marriage.


With high-schoolers it seems to me to be different, it's a lot more hormonal and physical in nature. J & A are just giddy in love with each other, as well as physically attracted, and again, while perhaps a bit annoying, I think it is very sweet, and a good sign.

Acting this way after marriage is very common among young couples who have practiced abstinence before marriage, in my experience. They will mellow over time.

Duggarriffic!! said...

if what was said a couple of posts before this one was directed towards my previous post, please dont get me wrong, i love the duggars. I personally do not think they are boring, but in posts about other shows everyone seem to say the shows were getting boring. this show compared to, say the blinds show, was a lot more entertaining to watch.
also..
i think josh and anna are great. it's a nice change to see such a young couple loving and caring for each other. jim bob and michelle the same; i just adore their relationship.

being an only child raised in a very dysfunctional single parent home, i always wanted to be raised in a large christian family. how awesome it must be not to sing hymns alone but have a friend to sing with you. etc.

i think they created this show for people like me that always wanted something like this and im just proud of them and happy for everything they are blessed with :]

castle builder said...

Who was with them in the picture in front of the "Welcome Duggars" sign? It was a girl, standing between Jill and Jessa, I think. It was NOT Anna or Amy.

BoyMom said...

I too would rather watch any of the non-flashy goodness that the Duggars do than any of the stunts the Gosselins pull. I can't sit with my kids and watch a primetime, hyped divorce announcement, but I sure can watch "the show with all the kids" as my guys call it and have a good time.

I loved watching Michelle in that ball. It was hilarious! It was nice to see the girls getting to do the fun stuff too.

clanof9 said...

castle builder:

The girl in the photo is Anna's sister. They never mentioned her or why she was with them. I guess she was just along for fun.

clanof9 said...

Has anyone heard if Kelly Bates has had her baby?

Kai said...

The Bates haven't had their 17th yet according to this recent article...
http://www.wbir.com/life/programming/local/liveatfive/story.aspx?storyid=92553

It also tells about the renovation the Duggars are doing on their house.

shanemotb said...

FYI, In the pictures on tlc you can see that Josh IS wearing a seat-belt. Like most commercial vehicles of this type, it is only a lap-belt. Granted, Anna isn't!

Anonymous said...

It looks like Jessa/Jinger is wearing a "Toad Suck Daze" t-shirt.
That is an annual event put on by the city of Conway, AR. It may not be...but it looks just like the font they use on their shirts.

BTW- Toad Suck Daze is awesome!!

Anonymous said...

The shirt is a Toad Suck Daze shirt. It has *nothing* to do with the phrase 'it sucks' or anything. It's an annual event in Conway, a carnival type thing that the town puts on that includes toad/frog races, etc.

Also someone mentioned that they thought this was a new episode but then they recognized the Dixie Stampede. That's because there is another Dixie Stampede restaurant/show in Branson and the Duggars and Bates went there last year on the first episode the Bates' family were on.

In regards to everyone not being in seatbelts, carseats, etc. That is not required in buses and rvs in Arkansas.

Mrs P

Enough with the Multiples said...

Mrs. Bates would have had to have had her baby by now. The episodes where they came to visit and she said she was expecting aired in October so even if the episode had just been filmed a few weeks before that, she still would have delivered by now.

Anonymous said...

Is Toad Suck a place? If not, is the festival called that just to be funny or what? Just curious

Not a "J" Name :) said...

I haven't seen the episode which includes the visit to the pottery. Was it aired on TV, or is it a webisode? I'd love to see it, if someone could lead me there.

Not a "J" Name :) said...

Duggarriffic! said...

I missed the part about Dolly's cleavage[fill me in!]
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If you meant that "fill me in" to be wordplay, you did a great job! :)

Anonymous said...

I checked out "Toad Suck Daze" and found that they have their own website: http://www.toadsuck.org/

It is a 3 day family festival that helps to raise money for college scholarships. You can read about the origin of the name there too.

It is a volunteer-run event that is appropriate for the Duggar girls, so it was not shocking or rude that Jinger was wearing this t-shirt.

Anonymous said...

These people are having fun because they don't have to worry about who's going to pay the bills for having 18 childern. They have always recieved gifts and donations from churches and private persons.

Their childern to me many times seem like "zombies" and I don't mean that as a nasty comment. They only seem to know one another and interaction with other families and childern seems to be null and void. They are in their own little universe.

It's interesting to see comments by people who say "gosh what fun abig family is I only had a small one" Trust me being a number in a large family is not all it's cracked up to be. I married a man who was number 16 out 17 childern and hisa childhood wasn't filled with fun trips clothes of his own and a huge mansion for a home.

If any of you really look closely youd's see that the childern take care of "childern". It's impossible for any set of parents to give that many childern the quality time they deserve. I don't believe "go forth and multipy" means having a baby every year, especially when there are so many childern out there who need to have good homes.....but then that's just my opinion

Anonymous said...

Kai said...

The Bates haven't had their 17th yet according to this recent article...
http://www.wbir.com/life/programming/local/liveatfive/story.aspx?storyid=92553

It also tells about the renovation the Duggars are doing on their house.
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I just finished reading the above article and I had to laugh out loud at Jim Bob's statement that the renovation was originally intended to be a "new laundry room as a Mother's Day present to
Mrs Bates". Only a man would think a bigger, better laundry room would be an appropriate holiday gift for a woman! Sterling silver earrings or clothes hangers? Hmmm, which one shall it be????

On another note, I am wondering if TLC is compensating the Bates in some way for their appearances on "17/18 Kids and Counting", because a full scale, more-than-double-the-size-of-your-house renovation must be very expensive. I recall in the episode when the Bates came to cut down the trees that the ice storm destroyed, Mr Bates said that his business had slowed down lately and that was one of the reasons that they were able to make the trip. They have never (to the best of my knowledge) mentioned living a "debt free" life and they do not appear to be as financially free as the Duggars are. As thrifty and "on the lookout for a bargain" as Jim Bob is, I can't imagine him offering to actually help pay for the materials needed. I am sure that he and his family are saving the Bates many $$$ in labor costs, though. The article also mentions that many people in the community are involved, also.

In any case, TLC should get a few good episodes out of it; they mentioned about two or three, I think.

Anonymous said...

I am sure that I am opening myself up to tons of critics, but I have a question in regards to the Duggars picking up shop and hauling--literally--the whole family from Arkansas to Tennessee to live in a bus for two months while a new house is built for the Bates family.

They said the project was begun in May as a laundry room renovation. Traditionally, May and June are school months. How were they able to homeschool all those kids inside a bus? And how does this make them different than Jon and Kate (who I do not like or watch anymore) when Jon and Kate take/took their kids out of school for "family reasons"? It seems that now the Duggar kids lives are being "upset" in the name of TV, very odd considering how the parents insist that TV never infringe on their family life.

I am not a teacher but I am a mom and I do know that in order for little ones to learn anything, it has to be taught on a consistent basis, in a quiet and relaxed atmosphere. I can't imagine children really grasping school lessons while being jammed into a bus with 33 (the number stated in the article) other children of varying ages and needs, in the middle of a construction zone, and being "taught" (managed, really) by two moms (one of them largely pregnant). How many adults could learn anything under these circumstances? I doubt these kids are really learning ANYthing other than how to enjoy each other's company. And it's a shame. It is wonderful that the family helps others, but it would have been better for Jim Bob to have gone alone. As it is, the article says that he and the family are back home, but he left some of his sons to continue. It must be Joseph or Josiah (both too young, in my book), as I would imagine that John-David and Josh have to be at home running their car business, not to mention Josh's need to be near Anna as her due date approaches.

As much as I like this family, I do think that they make some pretty poor choices over all.

fancythis said...

lol,, call me nuts but given the choice of a big new laundry room and sterling silver earrings, I'll take the laundry room every time!

SuzanneDeAZ said...

I am a former public school teacheras well as a former homeschool mother. One thing different about homeschooling is that you can take your six week break or 3 month break any time of the year. You are not tied to the public school calender which is tied to the harvest seasons. The only reason public schools have the current calender is that years ago when a lot of students were children of farmers they were needed at a certain time of year to help out with the harvest. Some public schools are breaking away from that as there is no reason they have to follow that calender.

I am not going to judge the Duggars for taking a two month break when I know that many schools take a 3 month break each year. They took that break not to accomodate TLC but to help another family build a home. I think that is a very nobel reason to choose when to give your child a break than just to follow a calender that was made years ago due to the farming calender.

SuzanneDeAZ said...

To the party who commented about the children living in the bus for two months I question where did that information come from? I just listened to a video and it said "two months ago". It did NOT say there were there for two months. They planned to be there one week and ended up spending more time there but no where does it say two months. Maybe they spend an extra week or two. Also they did not do this project to accomodate TLC. I think TLC follows them along. The project was orginally meant to be a laundry room and ended up being the whole house. I would not be surprised if Mr. Duggar bought most of the materials for the house with the earnings he is getting with TLC, sharing his blessings.

SuzanneDeAZ said...

"I just finished reading the above article and I had to laugh out loud at Jim Bob's statement that the renovation was originally intended to be a "new laundry room as a Mother's Day present to
Mrs Bates". Only a man would think a bigger, better laundry room would be an appropriate holiday gift for a woman! Sterling silver earrings or clothes hangers? Hmmm, which one shall it be????"

I would be concerned if Jim Bob bought another woman, Mrs. Bates Sterling silver earrings. I think the choice to build a large laundry room was very thoughtful.

Years ago my housband bought me a broach and I made him take it back and get me a word processor. I want practical gifts. We always give gifts that can make our lives easier rather than "fluff". If we want "fluff" we can do that any time we wish but we rather not use our money that way.

Anonymous said...

I thought it was a rude tshirt and I am not nearly as "modest" as the Duggars! I wouldn't let me daughter wear a tshirt with the word "suck" on it, even if it was advertising this event. This is the hypocrisy of the Duggars that I find dumbfounding. They make their girls wear "modest wear bathingsuits" (really ugly, and I would never make my daughter wear that) but let them wear a shirt with the word "suck" on it. Very strange.

Also, even if the law allows no seat belts on a bus, it isn't a good idea. When I travel, I am carrying my most precious cargo (my children). I would never risk them flying through the windshield!

Anonymous said...

Toad Suck is not meant to be offensive. You can find children, teens and adults all over Arkansas with that slogan on their shirt. It is allowed in public schools. I own one. It just isn't a big deal. It's only a big deal if you make it one.

Anonymous said...

SuzanneDeAZ said...
I would be concerned if Jim Bob bought another woman, Mrs. Bates Sterling silver earrings. I think the choice to build a large laundry room was very thoughtful.
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When I wrote the post you are commenting on, I meant it to be funny. Of course, I don't think Jim Bob BOUGHT Mrs Bates ANYTHING and I certainly doubt he is paying for their renovations.

I just meant that it is typical of some men to choose ONLY very practical gifts for the women in their lives. Many men seem to enjoy getting "useful" gifts...tools, grilling utensils, gardening equipment, etc...instead of "personal" tings, so I guess they think that women do, also. (My own husband would toss aside a new belt and drool over a new garden edger.)

I, too, have requested (and received) household "gifts". I wanted a "Dirt Devil" vacuum one Christmas that I was pregnant because it became too cumbersome to lug the full sized one up the stairs from the first to the second floor.

I am sorry if my remark was taken literally; it was not meant to be. And, yes, I still think it is amusing (and typical) of Jim Bob to say what he did. :)

Anonymous said...

SuzanneDeAZ said...

To the party who commented about the children living in the bus for two months I question where did that information come from?
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Below is the headline and beginning of the article.

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Duggar family helps Lake City family with month-long home renovation
Beth Haynes Updated: 7/7/2009 7:22:54 PM Posted: 7/7/2009 5:11:22 PM


Imagine 34 kids all under one roof. That's been reality for the Duggar and Bates families since May. Both are used to tight quarters.

"This is the Duggar bus," says Michelle Duggar, giving a tour of the family bus. "It's our home away from home on wheels."

But even this is a stretch. The convergence of the two families began two months ago.

"This started off as a 200-square foot laundry edition," says Jim Bob Duggar. "We were going to surprise Kelly for Mother's Day."

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In the article, it does in fact state that "the convergence of the two families began TWO MONTHS AGO". If that still leaves doubt, please consider the following.

1)The headline says that they helped with a "MONTH-long" home renovation,....(perhaps 1st month was plans, permits, etc and 2nd was actual physical work)

2)Jim Bob implies that it was begun before Mother's Day (in the hopes of finishing it as a present for Mrs Bates)

3)the date this article was posted (and aired on the TV news) was 7/7/09. To me, that implies that the project was begun in May (5/09) and the Duggars were still there as of July (7/09)...giving or taking a day or two, that is TWO months. This also makes sense in the context (and time frame)that they were in TN with the Bates at the time Josh and Anna were in NY for the announcement of the baby's sex, June 15th, according to the "TODAY" show website.

4)At the very beginning, the article says (in referring to the tight quarters) "that's been the reality for the Duggar and Bates families SINCE MAY".

This is where I got the information that I used in MY post. If it is incorrect, then the info written in the article, as well as in the video, in wrong.

In any case, I for one, would not want to live in a bus with 18 (or 34) children for a day or two, much less a month or two. Sorry.

B in Lee said...

Cousin Amy. Ugh. She adds nothing of real value to the show. We all KNOW the Duggars have an attitude different from "Madison Ave/Hollywood America". We get it. Move on and make your OWN way.

Anonymous said...

The Duggars are wonderful people, no doubt about it. They have the best hearts of anyone I think I have ever heard of. Yet, the more I see of some of their ways of doing things, the more I question their common sense.

First it was the lack of seat belts being used. Whether it is illegal or not, it is irresponsible for anyone, especially a pregnant woman and small children, to ride in any vehicle unbelted. At the very least, keep them away from the windshield of a bus going fast down a highway, for goodness sake.


I just watched the video of Michelle's tour of the family bus at the Bates home. She reminded me of the fairy tale "There was an old woman, who lived in a shoe...".

What really caught my attention was when Michelle whipped open the "bunk" curtain to reveal baby Jordyn fast asleep in her infant seat. That bunk was several feet off the ground, the "matress" itself is soft and therefore, not very stable to set a baby seat on and the baby was completely out of sight behind the heavy, velvet curtain. Any child, or unsuspecting adult for that matter, could have come through there quickly and knocked her to the ground. As it happened, a child could be seen climbing on the next bunk over, while Michelle was giving the interview. If the baby had to be put into one of the bunks at all, it should have been the lowest one, just inches from the floor.

Michelle said all the little ones were in a safe place; I guess compared to the construction zone outside. It probably would have made more sense for Michelle and her little ones to remain at their home and have Mrs Bates and her little ones go and stay at the Duggars. But that's just my two cents (or old-fashioned common sense).

maria said...

I just went to the Toad Suck site and they still have some t-shirts available. They are pretty cute! Now that I know the origin of the name, it doesn't bother me. I live in Illinois, though, so I wonder if my daughter would get in trouble if she wore one to school. I'll bet you she would.

Anonymous said...

SuzanneDeAZ said...

I am a former public school teacheras well as a former homeschool mother. One thing different about homeschooling is that you can take your six week break or 3 month break any time of the year. You are not tied to the public school calender which is tied to the harvest seasons.

I am not going to judge the Duggars for taking a two month break when I know that many schools take a 3 month break each year.

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I beg to differ. Over the course of the last "traditional" school year 2008-09, it would appear that the family has been very busy being out and about. Just take a look at the episode listings posted on this blog alone and see how often the Duggar Homeschool appears to have been in session versus their family/TV schedule.

In Sept, the family traveled down to Florida for the Sept 26th wedding of Josh and Anna. Prior to that, the older girls made a separate trip with Josh to work on wedding details...dresses, flowers, etc. (Jim Bob and Michelle admitted to working hard just to keep everyone fed, clothed, diapered and entertained in the absence of the older girls "help".) Both of these trips kept the kids and teachers (mom and older girls) from schoolwork for I would presume most of Sept, as the wedding issues took priority.

In Oct, Michelle and Jim Bob went to San Francisco to celebrate their anniversary, leaving Grandma and the older children to care for Grandpa, the little kids and the home. On the episode, it looked liked they had their hands full and I wonder how much (if any) studying was done.

In Dec, of course, it was the birth of baby Jordyn and the Christmas parade, with hours and hours spent decorating their float.

In Jan, (Jan 21st) Jim Bob, Michelle, Jessa, Jinger and Jordyn were in NY on "The View" to introduce the new baby. They were also there (in NY) to give interviews to promote the book. Prior to the NYC trip, the whole family attended the Christian Film Festival (Jan 8th through 10th) in San Antonio, Tx. I believe the El Salvadore trip was sometime this month, also.

In Feb, came the ice storm (no electric to power the computers for school work); the Bates family for the storm clean-up; the announcement of Josh and Anna's baby (Feb 3rd was when they told the Duggars, according to their website) and Grandpa's death and funeral only days after. According to Michelle during one of the episodes, the Bates family had stayed on to help for quite a while. I doubt much schooling took place during this period of time at all.

In May, (May 26th-29th) the family was off to the ATI Conference in Big Sandy, TX. At some point in this time frame, we know that they "converged" with the Bates at their home for "awhile" helping to build them a larger house. Since the renovation was originally scheduled to be complete by Mother's Day, they probably went down there in the beginning of May. Their intention was probably to visit the Bates, build the laundry room and then go on to ATI. After the renovation plan was changed they probably just returned to the Bates after ATI. This would put them in TN for the time period stated in the article. And bring us through the month of June, to where we are now, mid July. And now, of course, school's "out for the summer".

At some point, Jim Bob and the older girls also went to Fort Rock Family Camp and of course, there was the family trip to see Dolly and her Dixie Stampede. Added into all the time actually away from the "dining room table"
school, is all the time the older girls spend packing, unpacking and laundering clothes for a trip. I just cannot imagine that with all this travel and prep and post trip work, Michelle and the girls are able to consistently teach those children anything.

I daresay that, is spite of their busy TV life, the Gosselin kids have probably attended more school days this year than the Duggars.

Rory said...

The El Salvador trip was in December, because Michelle was very pregnant and Jana stayed home to help her.

Just because we don't see the Duggars around the dining room table doing lessons doesn't mean they aren't getting done. The older kids can work on their lessons without much help from Michelle. We've already seen one episode about homeschooling. Maybe the producers figured a second one would be boring. Many people complained about the two dentist/teeth episodes (visit to the dentist, Jana and Jill's wisdom teeth being removed.)

Anonymous said...

In regards to Jinger's shirt, FROM THE "TOAD SUCK DAZE" WEBSITE:


What does "Toad Suck" mean anyway?

Well, the answer is quite simple... Long ago, steamboats traveled the Arkansas River when the water was at the right depth. When it wasn't, the captains and their crew tied up to wait where the Toad Suck Lock and Dam now spans the river. While they waited, they refreshed themselves at the local tavern there, to the dismay of the folks living nearby, who said: "They suck on the bottle 'til they swell up like toads." Hence, the name Toad Suck. The tavern is long gone, but the legend and fun live on at Toad Suck Daze.

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I wonder if the Duggars know the (above) history behind the "Road Suck" festival? LOL!

Also, interestingly enough, (from it's website) comes the info that:

"it has free admission and proceeds go to support higher education in Faulkner County. Since the start of the festival over $1 million has been given in scholarship and towards scholarship endowments. This money has helped over 200 individuals attend local institutes of higher learning."

MarylandMomOf3 said...

Off the Toad Suck topic....

Someone mentioned that Anna's sister was along with them for the trip. She was also in the episode when Anna, Amy, Michelle, and some of the girls went shopping for baby clothes. I know there's been much speculation about John David and the oldest Bates girl, BUT who thinks that Anna's sister is a possibility for JD, since she's been around so much lately?

Judy said...

One thing that concerns me about the Duggars is the way they encourage their kids to ignore their uncomfortable, negative, or disagreeable feelings. You aren't supposed to say anything negative. It is always just one big happy fest. They are all supposed to learn "self control." How healthy is it for kids to learn that they need to be in such self control that they can't express their true feelings of anger, sadness, etc.? I mean, let's face it, teens have these kinds of feelings quite often. Are they expected to just ignore them?

Anonymous said...

In regard to the posts about homeschooling (or the apparent lack thereof): one of the best things about homeschooling, aside from the ability to truly guide and shape your children's hearts and minds, is the flexibility it allows! You can homeschool anytime, anywhere if you possess the patience to do so. I think the education and training of the kids are Duggar Family priorities, so I have trouble believing that they would do anything to compromise them. If I am not mistaken, Josh graduated (or got his GED) much earlier than "normal," and I am willing to bet that the young Duggar kids are ahead of many public-schooled kids their age! Also, as a former and future homeschooler,I can tell you that much more teaching can be accomplished in a shorter time by homeschoolers than in a public school classroom, even if you are homeschooling a large group!

Anonymous said...

I agree with Maryland Mom of 3, there maybe something to Anna's sister being around so much.Maybe she is the one John David is courting. She is kind of silly and playful like JD.I think she would make a good choice.While Erin Bates is a beautiful girl, she seems a bit mature for JD.I think Anna's sister,Susanna(I think thats her name) is pretty too.

Anonymous said...

I agree- it's quite possible that Anna's sister might be a match for John David. I've wondered about Anna's siblings, too, but cannot recall ever seeing anything about their ages/genders.

Anonymous said...

Judy said...
One thing that concerns me about the Duggars is the way they encourage their kids to ignore their uncomfortable, negative, or disagreeable feelings.
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I think some of the answers might be found courtesy of JB's "mentor" Bill Gothard in this link from the Duggar Family website:

http://iblp.org/iblp/discipleship/journeytotheheart/topics/

I don't know how to access the details of these topics (might have to join IBLP?) but the topics sound interesting!

A Perfect Heart vs. A Whorish Heart
A Sound and Upright Heart vs. A Deceived Heart
A Merry Heart vs. A Discouraged Heart
and my personal favorite, though I haven't a clue what it means (guessing "clean"?):
A Circumcised Heart vs. A Deceitful Heart

Kai said...

I have noticed that Jessa, Jinger, and Joy- Anna have been wearing much shorter skirts than Jill and Jana. You can tell by the picture of them in front of the Pigeon Forge welcoming sign. Is it possible that they are slowly trying to break away from the skirts and start wearing pants? Or maybe it is just that Jana and Jill are a little older. Whatever it is, I hope that they don't feel like they should wear shorter skirts because they see "normal" people doing it.

hippiesongbird said...

I personally think that 18 Kids and Counting is one of the only decent shows on TLC anymore (Little Couple is great).

As far as one of the girls wearing a shirt that says "sucks" it is probably the same t-shirt I wore in youth group and that all my friends wore. Our shirts said "Satan Sucks" and I am betting it said something to that effect.
I truly DOUBT they would ever let their child wear a shirt like that unless it had a funny Christian message on it.

Also, I think that the photo of Josh and Anna is merely something that they POSED for and were not actually driving. In the episode where they go on a double date, josh won't let anna ride in the go kart because she is pregnant so I HIGHLY doubt he would let her drive in the motor home without a seat belt.

Lastly, as far as the Duggar's embracing some modern conveniences.

An IPod is different than a radio because you can have control over what songs you hear (you down-load them. I am devoutly religious and I have an IPod.

Just because they have a flat-screen TV doesn't mean they are watching bad things.... I have a flat screen TV. No one assumes I'm not sticking to my religious convictions.

The fact that they have a computer is no surprise since the older girls do their school work on it...

Why does everyone assume that modern conveniences mean they are not being true to their beliefs? That is crazy.

LASTLY, I think Jessa wore pants (leggings under her skirt) because they were horesback riding in the duggars and daughters episode.

It seems like people are just looking for things to complain about and are really grabbing at straws. Unlike John and Kate, there are no blatant displays of things that are so un-christian and do not coincide with their supposed beliefs. But... the Duggars have done nothing like that.

Judy said...

Hiipiseongbird:

I think Little Couple is great, too.

Anonymous said...

The OLDER GIRLS do their schoolwork on the computer?


First of all, most of the older girls are done with their "schooling." Jana, Jill and Jessa graduated homeschool, at age 16.

Finally, all the children over 7 use the computer for all their schoolwork, other than the afternoon Wisdom Book sessions with mom. The older girls help and teach them if there are problems.

Most of this is in the Duggar's book.Switched on Schoolhouse is how those kids learn multiplication, fractions, compound words, science, etc.

SuzanneDeAZ said...

There seems to be a lot of talk about the length of the girls' skirts. I think the main rule for their skirts and dresses is modesty. Most folk who are concerned and have rules for modesty do NOT insist on the dresses being ankle length. The girls who are wearing ankle length skirts are doing so out of preference. Most rules for modesty will allow dresses to be knew length or no shorter than the tip of their fingers when standing up, which is just above the knees. So it is not so much they are changing but are showing the different preferences among the girls. They may like some of their skirts to be ankle length and some to be knee length. When they start wearing mini skirts that will be the time to make such comments about change. I think they are dressing as far as the length is concerned the way they always have dressed.

hippiesongbird said...

Anonymous said...

The OLDER GIRLS do their schoolwork on the computer?


First of all, most of the older girls are done with their "schooling." Jana, Jill and Jessa graduated homeschool, at age 16.

Finally, all the children over 7 use the computer for all their schoolwork, other than the afternoon Wisdom Book sessions with mom. The older girls help and teach them if there are problems.

Most of this is in the Duggar's book.Switched on Schoolhouse is how those kids learn multiplication, fractions, compound words, science, etc.

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I cannot tell from your post whether you are a fan of the Duggars or not, but since you mention their book I assume you are.

You made this post in response to my post in which I stated that I think it shouldn't be a big deal if they have a computer since the older girls use it for school.

I gather from your snotty emphasis on my "older girls" comment that you are irked at my mistake. It doesn't matter whether I was right or wrong about which kids use the computer for school work. The main point was that it IS in fact used for schoolwork and not just playtime or for a luxury as someone posted earlier.

You only further cemented my argument by stating all the kids over seven use it for schoolwork. So I'm not sure why you are getting so defensive... We are obviously on the same side here.

Anonymous said...

I agree about the skirt length thing. My girls (I have 3 daughters) and I all wear skirts or dresses nearly all the time. (We do have some jeans to wear if we go play in the snow or soemthing like that) We have ankle length skirts/dresses, knee length skirts/dresses, mid calf, and all in between. Our only 'rule' is that it needs to be at least to the top of the knee to be able to be worn in our home. I, personally usually wear calf length or below skirts, but that's just b/c that is what is comfortable for me. The children, ages 11, 8, and 6, wear all different lengths, depending on what they are wearing that day.

Mrs P

AndiMominIL said...

Just curious, since I missed this episode - are the Duggar children allowed to listen to country music?? I was under the impression that they were only allowed to sing/listen to hymns and classical music.

Also I think Josh & Anna are cute - naive and very young, but cute. My husband and I are still very cuddly after 3 years of marriage and 1 child. Nothing wrong with showing affection.

Sulmith said...

One of the older girls had a GED study guide on her bedside table in the Dad/Girls Camping episode. I know very little about homeschooling but I assumed that the kids would receive certification from their HS program after they were done. I guess some or all also take the GED?

I can't remember which daughter it was but I still have the recent episodes on the recorder and may watch again to see.

Anonymous said...

Actually, the homeschooling curriculum that they follow does not award any sort of certification. If they want to move onto any sort of other education or be able to say they have "a high school degree" (well sort of) they have to take the GED.

clanof9 said...

Actually, it is NOT required by many universities to have a high school diploma or GED to be admitted, believe it or not. If you have satisfactory ACT or SAT scores and can show proficiency in all required high school subjects, you can be admitted without a diploma. In fact, a GED can be a negative, because it looks like "high school dropout" on a college application.

Also, many two-year community colleges will admit you without a diploma, you can even enroll while still in high school if you want to.

Just some FYI.

Anonymous said...

ACTUALLY community colleges and associate degree programs are pretty much the only places that accept students without a high school diploma or GED because they are catering to a demographic (the community they are in) where they assume there will be many who do not have these things. Private and public (not "community") colleges, which have a much more competative application process will 99% of the time not accept a student without a high school diploma. There are always exceptions but very, very few. A student would have to have near perfect scores on the SAT and/or ACT plus perfect grades to be accepted into a college which can choose other students who have been to competative high schools, have already taken college courses (APs), have great SAT scores, and great reccommendations from objective adults (aka not their home schooling parent).

Just FYI.

clanof9 said...

I personally know of many homeschooled students that have gotten into public and private universities without a hs diploma or GED, with good (but not perfect) ACT or SAT scores. In addition, if a homeschooled teenager begins community college at, say 16, they can have their two year associates degree by age 18 and be applying to colleges with that, as well as good ACT scores. Having two years of college (with good grades, of course) looks impressive on a university application, much more than just having a high school diploma. Homeschooled kids don't have to go this route, but it is an option.

There are even some universities that now actively recruit homeschooled students, Stanford being one of them. Hard to believe, I know, but it's true. I've done my homework in this area, as I have a young homeschooled teenager looking to college in the future.

Erin Bates, also homeschooled, was offered a piano scholarship to the University of Tennessee.

Bottom line, if the Duggar children don't end up going to college, it's likely because they don't want to, not because they couldn't get in somewhere because they were homeschooled.

Midwest Mom said...

clanof9 said: "Bottom line, if the Duggar children don't end up going to college, it's likely because they don't want to"

More likely it's because their parents never encouraged them to pursue education beyond homeschooling, be it trade school or college.

In one episode, Michelle very bluntly stated to the cameras, while standing in the kitchen, that "the girls hearts are in homemaking".

Not that there is anything wrong with that. Homemaking is the ultimate career. (I'm sure I'll get blasted for saying this), but in this era, a woman needs a backup plan.....either a degree and some work experience, or trade school, or cosmetology school, or SOMETHING she can fall back on if needed at some point in the future if homemaking doesn't work out for her.

It seems that all the Duggar girls are just waiting around until a marriage proposal comes forward.

Anonymous said...

I agree, it would be wonderful to have a husband who can be a provider for the whole of the marriage, but every woman should have a skill that she can fall back on to earn a living wage if her husband should be laid off, disabled, sick, etc. (Not to mention divorce!)

How would it be for the Duggar daughters to have to hire themselves out as maids or babysitters (their only marketable skills) if their husband should fall ill and be unable to work? No matter how hardworking and dedicated, hiring out as domestic help is not going to feed the large family they will surely have.

I really feel that it is doing a disservice to these young ladies, to deny them a chance to have any kind of job.

Anonymous said...

I also think that the girls need to have some employable skills aside from cleaning and childcare (nothing wrong with either one, but it would be hard to make a decent living and or support a family on these wages).

It just seems that Michelle got more options in her youth and CHOSE the life she is living. They are denying the children a chance to make their own choices. And for the daughters, homemaking is not enough, usually, in these tough economic times. I would never want my daughter to depend on her husband, who could die, leave her, or get laid off. I would prefer my daughter develop some marketable skills, because relying on public assistance (in the event that the family can't support itself) is not a good plan.

jonandkatewho? said...

ITA with the last few posters. The girls need a skill outside of being homemakers and baby machines.

You never know what's going to happen in this life, and because that very thing is true, I have always told my daughter from an early age that she always needs to know she will be able to take care of herself, in case she ever has to.

My own life has had many twists and turns including a marriage which did not last (married at 21) and then having to live on my own and take care of myself for the first time. It has not been an easy road, and life holds no guarantees.

It just seems to me to be more practical to teach kids about higher education, and to even encourage it.

And I still don't think it's right to make the older kids raise the younger ones in addition to all the work they do around the house.

nccalgal said...

Since the Duggars are involved in several business activities, the girls should at least have some opportunity to learn the bookkeepping and other organizational and financial activities of the enterprises. Anna is helping Josh in the used car "business" and it was mentioned that Michelle was involved in several of their businesses, so it stands to reason that the girls could also have some of the involvement as well.
As far as the breaks in homeschooling, the Duggars seem to value developing practical skills and hands on learning. Although there is a need for a basic curriculum, enhancing learning through practical applications often sticks with children longer than just sitting and doing workbook or computer work.

maria said...

Not that there is anything wrong with that. Homemaking is the ultimate career. (I'm sure I'll get blasted for saying this), but in this era, a woman needs a backup plan.....either a degree and some work experience, or trade school, or cosmetology school, or SOMETHING she can fall back on if needed at some point in the future if homemaking doesn't work out for her.
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I'm not going to blast you for saying this because you are RIGHT! I graduated high school in 87 and then college in 92 (took longer than I planned because I got married while still in college). I worked through college and then after I graduated, too. Once my husband completed his masters, he took a very good paying job and I have been a stay at home mom ever since. I love it, but at least I have that degree to fall back on. I feel safe having it. And I do use it from time to time doing little bits of work from home, just to keep active and keep my mind in the 'biology mode.' I really do think it is important to have SOMETHING to fall back on, just in case being a homemaker doesn't happen for one of those girls.

Anonymous said...

The best moment of this episode: Jana holding up her clay pot and saying "This is what I made".