Josie Update In People Magazine






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139 comments:

Anonymous said...

First installment on their part of the balance of the hospital bill? Also yet another reason for not letting any updates out to their viewers. Timing is everything as this hits the streets days before the special.

My stomach is now churning.

Anonymous said...

Can you put up the article Please

Sharla said...

If we can get a copy of the article either online or scanned we will put it up. The covers come out online on Wednesday but the magazines don't get to the stores until Thursday.

Kris said...

I can't believe they posed for a photo with a micro-preemie all for publicity. (I'm not even going to touch on the mini-headband)

My stomach is also churning...

Midwest Mom said...

And the money continues to roll in.....

But it's all for "encouragement" of others, right?

Beedageeda said...

Maybe it's just my ignorance of how things like this work, but I'm surprised they are releasing anything via People before the special. Or, maybe that's just it...maybe the article will increase interest in the special? I wonder if we'll see them on the Today show this week? They have gone on the Today show on the morning of a big show like announcing J/A's baby's gender, etc. This is just all so sad. "Another baby, another dollar."

Anonymous said...

Disgusting, abolutely disgusting. What doctor allowed that to happen or maybe I should ask how big was the bribe?

Celestie said...

What is with those giant bows on their baby girls' heads? Let the cute little baby show through, without being tied up.

DreamPuff said...

So Sad! Baby taken out of isolette, IV removed, oxygen tubing removed, baby not medically supervised - all to attend a photoshoot! Unconscienceable! Oh, and the headband, puhleeze!

Ollie said...

The Duggars have completely sold out, and I'm sad because I once admired them. Our house is done with the Duggars and TLC. I hope this stunt gets them new views because they just lost us.

Ohio Buckeye said...

Most importantly, I hope poor little Josie continues to progress and that she does not suffer any long term/permanent disabilities.

But after that, I, too, have wondered, 'what the what??!' whenever I see those dorky bow headbands on their little girls. Poor little things look like Dumbo with those big honking bows stuck on their tiny little heads.

Anonymous said...

Terrible. This is the child who in years to come should ask what they were thinking posing for a cover that also included such encouraging topics as Brangelina, fashion nonsense (Nike!), and the John Edwards scandal.

I also agree about the silly looking bows. In Josie's case, it only highlights how tiny & fragile she really is.

-Katydid

Anonymous said...

Has anyone seen the article yet? Do the pictures look like they took the baby off and did a photoshoot just for the magazine, or does it look like they just allowed the magazine to use some family portraits they had made with the baby?

Mandy said...

She looks like she still has all her hospital stuff attached. The only thing that might be gone would be the oxygen tubing. And how do we know that this picture wasn't taken in the NICU? It seems like everyone is making a lot of assumptions that we can't make from such a small picture.

And as for the bows, they're cute in some situations but I agree they overuse them in the Duggar household. Plus it seems weird that you'd be putting anything tight around a preemie's head unless it was for warmth.

Anonymous said...

$$$ cha-ching ! $$$

Jane in California said...

It's official - JB and Michelle Duggar crave the limelight and the fame, just as much as Kate Gosselin does. They are nicer about it than she, they don't screech at each other, and Michelle has a lovely charming personality -- but actions speak louder than words. They cannot resist the allure of being on a magazine cover, and I am sure they will make the rounds of the talk shows just as soon as they can! They will drag along Baby #19 the moment a doctor gives the okay. They will stretch out their 15 minutes of fame just as long as possible, and claim it all just for the glory of God.

I'm fascinated by the morality play this family is providing, but I'm sorry to see a supposedly very religious and conservative couple sell out for money and fame.

Anonymous said...

If this doesn't prove their personal motives, I don't know what does. Gross. Count me out!

Anonymous said...

Absolutely disgraceful! I CANNOT believe that the good doctors in the NICU allowed Josie to be taken out of her isolette! It isn't even medically safe! Mothers take their preemies out of the isolette, but they are still connected to their tubes. Are we to believe that Josie is now breathing on her own, at 2.5 pounds,under 30 weeks? I don't think so.

Shame, shame, shame, shame on the Duggars and TLC. I am sick to my stomach!

Snap! said...

I don't agree with many of the Duggars' choices- but it looks like Josie has some sort of tube on her face. Oxygen- feeding tube? She wasn't removed from all support for the picture. I think babies are held for a short period everyday to help with bonding and growth. Usually the baby is held skin to skin. Maybe Josie was getting ready for a holding session and a few pictures were snapped. I can't imagine a hospital would let TLC or the Duggars put Josie's health in jeopardy. I agree the bows are ridiculous but the Duggars never let their daughters have a bare head until their hair grows in.
Poor Josie- I hope she gets some privacy.

Anonymous said...

While I too am disappointed in the way the Duaggars are heading and dont like the looks of this, Josie was certainly not removed from medical care to have the photo taken. Please, you can still see her ventilator. Its not like they took her to JcPenny's or something. The photographer would have come right to their hospital room and set up there. As far as being out of the isolette, of course. Even micropremies get some in arms time once they are stable enough to handle it.

mamaofnearly8

Practical Patty said...

Having had a preemie, I can tell you that the Dr.'s and nurses totally recommend normalizing the infant as much as possible. It is highly recommend that the baby be held as much as possible, especially skin to skin contact. They call it kangarooing.

For anyone to state that Josie has been "removed" from medical care because a photo was taken with her mom and dad, that is just wrong, wrong, wrong.

It seems like a whole lot of you are just plain shocked that she is actually doing so well and is not still on the vent.

How about a little rejoicing people instead of p**ing on the cornflakes?

Anonymous said...

Practical Patty could you tell us how far along your preemie was and how long ago he/she was born?

Ann said...

I am going to hold back my feelings until I am able to read the story, and see the pictures. I am very surprised to see a picture like this. My last child was born at 35 weeks and in the NICU and needed no breathing invention or medication but needed a feeding tube and help keeping her temperature up. We were not allowed any photos (besides a few of her in the incubator) until the day she was going to be discharged. The hospital didn't even allow us to have the "normal baby photos" taken with the blue background on discharge day because it flu season and they wanted to be extra careful that NICU babies were not around non-NICU babies.

I am very sad at the family selling out. I know the are not selling out like the Gosselins were for money for nannies, trips, spa days etc but it is still wrong.

Practical Patty said...

My preemie was born at 29 weeks, about 13 years ago. He also had his regular hospital baby photo taken, of course those are so precious now. Also, the nurses kept a camera handy, a Polaroid, and snapped pictures of the babies if they were awake and alert or just looking cute. We also took a ton of photos.

We didn't have private rooms like the Duggars have for Josie, but there was a step down unit where parents spent one on one time with their preemie and did "prep care" in that the nurses would spend one on one time with the parents showing them how to handle the cpap and apnea monitors.

Touching and holding was encouraged, especially mom to baby skin contact.

Google the term "kangarooing" and you'll see lots of links about preemie care.

Can't See Sheep said...

Beedageeda said...

Maybe it's just my ignorance of how things like this work, but I'm surprised they are releasing anything via People before the special. Or, maybe that's just it...maybe the article will increase interest in the special?
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That would be my bet. It's being release this Thursday & the show is on the 31st, fits very nicely for them. All to build that audience bigger, drive the ratings up as high as they can get them, it's revolting.

This little girl is beautiful as she is & needs that big bow on her head about as much as her parents need yet another child. I hope that she is doing very well & that she has no long term problems.

Anonymous said...

I think the photo looks photoshopped. It looks like they took pictures of Josie where she was, and then photoshopped Michelle & JB in. In any case I doubt the doctors allowed anything that would be detrimental to Josie's health.

Deanna said...

Personally, I think this photo shoot corroborates my post about how TLC controls these reality families. Even if Josie wasn't removed from her breathing tube for the shoot, and although families do get to hold their micropreemies, this was not in the best interest of Josie's health (although clearly was in the best interest of TLC and the Duggar pocketbook). Usually NICUs do not allow outsiders in, particularly due to risks of infection.

Especially this year, with H1N1, I cannot imagine that the Duggars, or the hospital, would want to take the risk of filming or photographing a micropreemie, with all the lights, lightmen, cameraman, etc. It is just plain foolish, with Josie's already compromised immune system, to expose her to any more germs than necessary.

Cassandra said...

In addition to this magazine, they're on the Today show this morning. Funny, their special is on on Sunday.............ironic how we're getting updates now. Not.

Enough said...

Why is ANYONE surprised??
They may not be as nasty as Khate G, but shoot they are just as fame-hungry (money hungry too) but its ALL for the "Encouragement" of the rest of us!
Enough

Kliff said...

This is awesome! I'm so happy we finally get to see little Josie, even she does have to wear a stupid headband. I can't wait for the show on Sunday night, I'm all jittery with anticipation. I just hope there's some coverage of the rest of the family, especially jana since she's such a cutie.

pumpkin said...

The article is available:

http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20339922,00.html

Doesn't really tell us anything we didn't know already.

Anonymous said...

"Even if Josie wasn't removed from her breathing tube for the shoot, and although families do get to hold their micropreemies, this was not in the best interest of Josie's health..."

Completely untrue. A photo of a sleeping baby does not in any way whatsoever compromise the health of the baby.

Jane in California said...

As to whether this photo shoot put baby Josie at risk, I certainly hope not. However, I had a friend who had a baby in NICU because she was born with a heart condition and underwent surgery in the days following her birth. A group of friends offered to take a turn through out each day to come sit and rock the baby (I guess that's called kangarooing). The NICU was a very quiet place, only one of us were allowed in at a time.

So I think some hospital rules were most definitely bent if not broken, to allow this photo shoot to take place. What kind of lighting did they need to set up? Was it a bright light? Would the hospital have allowed this sort of thing for anyone else? These are all questions I wonder about.

Anonymous said...

That is a very lovey picture of Josie and her parents.

It reminds me of pictures of my preemie. We would show the pictures to everyone that would look. We saw a beautiful baby boy, our son. Others saw all the tubes ect. and thought what a sad picture and "poor baby"

As for the headband on Josie, I know that when my son was in the NICU were were encouraged to dress them up as a bonding experience to make them feel like a "normal" baby. So I'm betting since it is something that they have done with there other babies they would be encouraged to do so with this baby.

Anonymous said...

Being that the Duggars are pro-life I have a feeling that they will use their micro-preemie to "encourage" others to consider the humaness of such a tiny, precious preborn life before considering an abortion.

Deanna said...

A photo shoot of a micropreemie can ABSOLUTELY compromise its health, because there are additional germs from the cameraman, soundman, lightsperson, etc., that should not be introduced to an immunodeficient child (which all micropreemies are). Also the lights in general could have been bothersome to her eyes (many micropreemies have their eyes taped shut).

It was a stupid and unnecessary risk. I would never dream of compromising the health of my children, micropreemie or not, for the sake of the almighty dollar, but then again, I would not have had strangers in filming my birth (all the while touting my "modestness") either.

The Duggars have more than sold out. How very sad.

Anonymous said...

I have been a long time reader of this blog, but this is my first comment. I see nothing wrong with this photo on People Mag. Little Josie clearly is still hooked up to her monitor (you can see a black wire coming out of the blanket), and her oxygen is clearly still on her face. None of her extermities are exposed, so how do we know if her IV has been removed or not. Granted her IV could be in her scalp, but it would be covered by the larger than life bow :).
As a NICU nurse myself, I can tell you that my goal is to take pictures of infants and their parents looking as "normal" as soon as I can. Josie is 7 weeks old, and does not look like she is on heavy support. There is no reason why she should not be able to come out of her isolette. I encourage parents of vented infants to hold.
Also, I LOVE the bow. Josie is unable to wear clothes yet, the bow (although huge) is something normal that her parents can put on.

Amanda said...

Celestie said...

What is with those giant bows on their baby girls' heads? Let the cute little baby show through, without being tied up.
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I noticed that when McKenyzie was born that Josh and Anna put a HUGE bow on her head as soon as she was
born. I thought it was strange. Maybe it's teaching them gender roles as soon as they are born. The kids won't be traumatized by the is that a boy or a girl question.

Anonymous said...

Unfortunately, I believe that Michelle will try one more time to get a girl, so that they have a 10 boy/10 girl family or at least a even 20 regardless of gender. I believe that when they had their run of 6 boys, it made her mad that she had to wait so long for another girl to doll up with the big headband, etc. Then she has gotten lucky with the last four pregnancies to almost even things out gender wise. In one older episodes when they found out Jennifer was a girl, they made the comment, "yay, the girls are catching up." Now that she is so close to 10/10, she is really mad that they are being seen (and rightfully so) as reckless in continuing to get pregnant. That's why Jim Bob made the comment on the Today show that preeclampsia can happen to any woman, because they are not ready to quit, and they want to talk themselves into believing that the delivery scare was just a fluke.

PreemieMom said...

I am also the mother of a preemie (now 2 years old). She was born at 29 weeks, and weighed in at 2 1/2 pounds. She was born screaming, and breathed on her own from the beginning, though she was given surfactant to keep her lungs from sticking/collapsing when she breathed. She did, however, also require a CPAP machine - the same thing they give adults for sleep apnea. She had tubes in her belly button for meds, another in her foot for blood draws (so they wouldn't have to keep poking her), heart rate monitors on her chest, and an oxygen sensor on her toe. If this is the same for Josi, those medical necessities would not show in the photo. My baby also had a nasal cannula that went from her nose (or mouth) into her belly for feedings.

From the beginning I was involved in her daily car. I was taught to take baby's temperature and change diapers the size of a Kleenex every 3 hours. Once stabilized (several days for my baby), babies ARE taken out of the isolette for "Kangaroo Care" - skin-to-skin contact with mommy (or daddy) to help with the bonding process. It also helps mommies to keep producing the milk for baby (really important for preemies). In the very beginning she wore the CPAP for kangaroo care, but later could come off it for a short while. It was during those times that the nurses would change the nasal cannula, which gave me a few precious moments with my dear baby without the tubes sticking out. I only have ONE single photo of my baby when she was that tiny without the tube, and I cannot fault the Duggars for wanting a photo of little Josi without the facial tubes (though I agree the giant bows need to go!).

My daughter stayed in the hospital for 6 weeks after birth - until she could eat, breath and maintain her body temperature on her own, and when she could handle being in a car seat for the ride home. We were given a course in infant CPR as the final requirement for release.

I would bet my life that the doctors and hospital would not remove tubes merely for a photo opportunity, nor would they want to assume any risk associated with allowing such things to take place. After all, there is a photo/media diary of such visits, and if anything I would believe that they would take extra precautions...

Ollie said...

I read the article in People, interesting how they go on about Michelle being so dedicated to the care of her premie that she and Jim Bob take turns staying at the hospital with her. No mention of Michelle having time just days after the birth to protest a liquor license or about how the family stayed mum on Josie's condition until right before a special airs about it, then they can't seem to get enough press. The Duggars are obviously so concerned about their baby's health and privacy that they can't take time to give fans an update or even change their website, but then they allow TLC and People to film her and take photographs that they sell for profit? I am so encouraged by this family, I'm more sure than ever that not following the likes of Bill Goatherd has been the best decision I could have ever made.

Sharla said...

I must once again ask for politeness when commenting. I realize this issue makes people emotional, but remember the other readers are real people, too. Comments that begin "WRONG...," will not go through no matter the rest of the content. Comments that say all of you, the people here, this blog, etc are not appropriate either. You may express you opinions, but please without attacking others. It is usually not so much what one says as how they say it that causes a comment to be rejected. Thank you.

Sharla said...

Also the examiner website is not a newspaper, but collection of nonprofessional authors who may or may not do any fact checking. Anyone may sign up for an account.

DreamPuff said...

I am relieved after seeing the magazine photos that necessary tubes and monitors were not removed for the filming of the pictures. Although it appears that her safety was not compromised, the photos present a "reality" that is not realistic. As a parent of a 27 week old preemie survivor I feel that the reality of the situation demands that you err on the side safety, personally I would not take the risk.

Anonymous said...

Sadly, I must agree with Ollie's 12:29pm comment

It is all about the $$$$

Anonymous said...

The question to me is would you or I or the neighbors have been allowed to do a professional photo shoot in the NICU? If yes, then I'm not so upset, but if no, then it was wrong to me. We're not talking a few snaps with the family camera here. Those are professional shots with all that entails. I don't believe anyone without the power of TLC and People pushing it could have had the professional shoot and that makes my skin crawl.

All the talk about kangaroo care and parents being there is to me irrelevant. This photoshoot had nothing to do with Josie's day to day care IMO.

Jane in California said...

I noticed a clip was added from The Today Show. I think I called it :)

"I am sure they will make the rounds of the talk shows just as soon as they can!"

Although I'm sure I was far from the only one who figured it was only a matter of time.

Christine said...

After reading the article I think Michelle has a more realistic view of the situation. She seems to be taking it day by day she was looking forward to breastfeeding and having Jim Bob hold Josie. I think JimBob's goals of walking her down the aisle at 20 shows he is in a different place. Of course I am sure most fathers see their babies girls and think about the day when they will be married, but come on JimBob age 20? and he vision seems not to take into account that Josie may need additional help. Kind of makes me feel like JimBob thinks if Josie is released on her orginal due date and is doing okay, she will be like every other baby.

Marge said...

I know alot of people have wonder about the medical bills. The article says that insurance is covering the bills. In an article several years ago Jim Bob mentioned he pays $475 a month for health coverage. This amount is consistent with those christian health sharings ministries, but that type of coverage would not cover a bill this large. Jim Bob loves to tell us about all his bargains so I want to know where he gets a family of 20+ covered for $475 a month being self employed. My husband is small business owner and for coverage (nothing great) we pay $650 for 4 people. I'll go buy me a piece of land in Arkansas if coverage is that good to cover a huge bill and that cheap!

Anonymous said...

The big headband bows are very common in the South. It's a way for a bald baby to wear bows. Once babies have enough hair, they just wear the bows.

Ohio Buckeye said...

Well, there you have it: according to this article, the Duggars have not taken this problemed pregnancy and the toll it has taken on Josie's quality of life, at least over the next several months and possibly permanently, as god's message that maybe they should 'count their blessings' and be done with the procreation phase of their lives.

Against all odds, logic, and medical advice, the Duggars are willing to risk the next baby having to go through the same experience as Josie - fighting for every breath, suffering a bowel perforation, and days filled with tubes and needles - a daily fight to simply survive.

I don't get it. What kind of god would want this?

How'sThatMath? said...

@Marge, I, too, wonder about that medical insurance plan JB claims.

Though healthy, when not covered by an employer's insurance, I paid a lot more for just my own coverage than JB says covers his entire family.

Red Line said...

I understand that the NICU wants to make the baby's life as normal as possible, but there is nothing normal about having your baby photographed for a gossip magazine. It is sick to me that we haven't heard a word about this child until a few days before the 'big show', and now there's a People article and an appearance on Today show. You just can't paint this situation into a pretty picture. Their agenda is crystal clear to me.

Snap! said...

Sharla- You are the best!! Thanks for the scans.

kidznpupz said...

That poor baby is far from out of the woods. The Duggars's must be a little daft - they seem like they are implying that she is ok and that things are fine. That she is a little miracle. That bowel perforation is probably due to a condition called NEC or necrotizing enterocolitis- an often fatal and recurring condition in which a portion of the large intestine dies and then open allowing the contents to enter the abdominal cavity. That picture of Josie with her stomach all distended (sticking out- that's not baby pudge) tells the story.
Don't they realize that even now she could be gone tomorrow? And they want to take that same risk of suffering and death with a new little one? What are they thinking?

Kelly Renee said...

I don't believe it takes more than one cameraman to take those pictures. In fact, one of the girls could have taken them with their camera and then People fixed them up with photoshop. I take better pictures than that with my Canon Rebel xti. And are they doing it for the money, probably. Are they doing it to encourage others with premies, probably. But I don't see where that is making them any less obedient to God.

Anonymous said...

"Though healthy, when not covered by an employer's insurance, I paid a lot more for just my own coverage than JB says covers his entire family."

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The article that says how much his insurance cost was written when Josh was about 13 years old.

All we know since then, is that the Duggars have said they do have insurance.

Anonymous said...

Well, there you have it: according to this article, the Duggars have not taken this problemed [SIC] pregnancy and the toll it has taken on Josie's quality of life, at least over the next several months and possibly permanently, as god's message that maybe they should 'count their blessings' and be done with the procreation phase of their lives.



I hope they have a LOT more kids and give God the Glory every step of they way. They love their kids and take good care of them. What a blessing to see that.

In this country babies can be aborted at Josie's gestational age. It is an encouragement beyond measure to see how much these two love this baby and are fighting for her life.

Joanna said...

I think the headbows are cute, though maybe that one was a bit big for Josie. I'm glad we get to see her, but I'm also glad that they waited several weeks. I think they okayed the updates, photoshoot, and special because Josie is off the ventilater and her prognosis is good (though never without caution). Although I do think it's better to wait 3 months, I'm eager to see Sunday's special.

It looks like Jana has cute her hair pretty "short". True, it could be she's copying her mother's hair style and it could still be mid-back length down the back, but if her whole hair is just below shoulder length, that's certaintly short for the Duggar girls.

Morning Glory said...

@Anonymous"... fighting for her life..."

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And, another way to look at it: perhaps if JB&M were more compassionate, they'd be unwilling to take such undue risks that yet another baby will have to endure what Josie is trying to prevail against.

Anonymous, Too said...

Anonymous said, "In this country babies can be aborted at Josie's gestational age.
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And if a surviving fetus of this exact gestational age was aborted, she'd be getting the same care as Josie.

While the intent is different - abortion being a chosen end to a pregnancy - the result is the same.

Brings one right back to the beginning of the conundrum: are the Duggars really being ethical by being willing to take outrageous risks that subsequent babies will have a painful struggle like Josie's?

mary meghan said...

Wow, the Duggars have given thanks to science and medicine for saving their youngest. Sorry if this is harsh but renting an 8,000+ square is unrelatable to the general viewing audience. (just for JB&M, the kids are at home) Maybe the film crew needed some extra space, who knows.

I also find it impossible to believe that they still have time, and are involved with, their other children at home being raised by their older sisters. I feel sorry that the 7 or 8 youngest will never know what it's like to have a mom and dad that has day to day interactions with them.

How odd that they would state that they feel like "first time parents again". Does that mean they only have to focus on one child? The kids left at home preschool age have been cheated. Again, sorry if that was harsh but there is something wrong with this picture.

Can't See Sheep said...

This is so nauseating, I really have not been able to find the words. I mean really, where does one start on this, there's so much & it's so overwhelmingly sick. I am happy this little girl is doing better, but seeing the parents, I just have a great deal of anger & the strong urge to send them to their rooms until they can think like adults. You just don't risk other human beings this way, you just don't.

Sorry, if science says there's an increased risk & you have plenty of happy healthy children then you do not risk doing this to another human being, such blatant disregard for the life of another & no, I'm not talking about having photos taken.

Yes this is JMO & no, no amount of arguing will change my mind on this, I am so throughly disgusted. If they want to risk themselves, that's fine, they can dangle from the Golden Gate bridge by their fingernails for all I care, but to risk someone who has no say in the matter of being risked, to risk such a dear little soul. This is selfish on so many levels. And then the selling on top of it all, lining this all up for cash. Guess I did find a few words.

Amanda said...

I completely trust JB & M to make decisions based on what they believe is best for their family. We all do once we are parents, and generally never ever plan for things like this to happen, but they do, and we all cope in our own ways. They obviously trust the Today Show and People magazine as well as their TLC crew to respect their wishes as to how the family and Josie are portrayed during this very difficult time for all of them. I'm so glad to hear that Josie is doing seemingly well, and will continue to pray for the entire family. If the Duggar's have made some money from the story and photos, I seriously doubt it will turn them into the materialistic slobs other reality families have.

me, just me said...

I absolutely think that Boob and Walking Womb are taking undue risks. And I'll mention that they said in their book that God giving them another healthy baby (about, Jill, I think), was Him showing them that they were doing His will.

If they were true to their word in trusting God, this should be their "shut-off valve" time. This baby is not healthy. This baby is not content. This baby is struggling. This baby is fighting a fight that she may not have had to if there hadn't been 18 pregnancies in a uterus.

If they want more children, they should adopt, really. Because after this, they're just playing Russian Roulette. The older WW gets, the more she could deliver more sick children. And it's not just her age, guys. It's the fact that she's been pregnant 9 out of 10 months for the past 21 years for all intents and purposes.

Her body may be "healthy", but that does not mean her womb is. That does not mean she can continuously be able to have healthy content happy children.

And also, until SHE HERSELF and Boob start raising the little ones themselves, I think the older girls should have a say in if she has more. Since they're the poor things that have to raise all these kids.

Deanna said...

Notice how Jim Bob says,

"It's a miracle she's doing so well," says Jim Bob. Agrees Michelle: "It is incredible what the doctors and nurses can do to save the life of this little person."

and yet he won't allow any of his children to pursue higher education in order to save the life of OTHER people's children. And God forbid that he allow his daughters to go to medical or nursing school, and yet he will take advantage of medical science when it suits him! This is the usual Duggar hypocrisy---malign science or medicine, until of course, there is a family need.

Also, People and Today have their own photographers and videographers. There were a LOT of different people in Josie's room, and a sick little micropreemie, with a perforated bowel does NOT need all those germs.

And the fact that they "won't rule out number 20"? They have officially gone bonkers. If Michelle dies in childbirth of the next one, those girls are officially doomed to never have a life of their own. Their childhood, adolescence and young adulthood has already been stolen from them in doing all the childcare, housework and whatnot for that giant brood. How dare Jim Bob and Michelle be so cavalier about having another child and potentially leaving 20 children without their birth mother?

Anonymous said...

Wow. Just wow.

It's amazing what people will do for money. The problem with this family is that they pretend to love God more than money, but they have proven that this isn't true.

Midwest Mom said...

Anonymous 6:03pm: "They love their kids and take good care of them. "

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The older siblings take care of the younger siblings.

The older siblings take care of themselves.

JimBob buys them used shoes from the thrift store, which may in time do damage to their feet. Josiah stated in an interview they never buy new shoes.

Michelle said herself, in a recent re-run episode, (the one where Johannah is allowed to drag a barstool around, then trips, and falls onto the barstool) that "someone around here hurts themselves about every 30 minutes". I cringed. That is unacceptable.

I don't see JB/M taking good care of the children at all.

Midwest Mom said...

Anonymous 6:03pm: "I hope they have a LOT more kids and give God the Glory every step of they way."

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I hope they do not have any more and realize it is quite possible to glorify God without having any additional pregnancies.
More babies does not equal more glorifying God.

Jennifer said...

As far as the insurance is concerned, more than likely they participant in a program similar to this:

http://samaritanministries.org/

Anonymous said...

I am certainly not defending the Duggars but the entire family has moved into the house they are renting not just Jim Bob and Michelle.

I took the comment of being first time parents all over again as meaning they have never been throught this, it is all new to them, so it is a first. Now hopefully there won't be a second.

Judy said...

I saw the article yesterday. The final words are about they can't wait to see her at twenty in a big white wedding gown getting married. Please!

Judy said...

It bothered me that now they've decided to be an "encouragement" to families who've had a preemie. I felt that was a very pretentious statement to make.

Jane in California said...

Anonymous 6:03pm: "They love their kids and take good care of them. "
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Yes, love them so much they sold out their privacy to be on a weekly television show for money. Love them so much that they taught Josh, their eldest, that it's okay to have a camera crew film the most private moments between husband and wife, up to and including the home birth of their first born!

Love them so much they require the older girls to raise the younger children, cook the meals, clean the house, and also monitor the older boys for lustful thoughts by calling out Nike! in case a pretty girl happens to pass by.

Love them so much they walk hand in hand, kissing and engaging in teen-ager PDA on outings, again while having the older girls do the actual parenting work of taking care of the younger kids.

Sorry folks, but I'm finding less and less to admire about these two and the form of religion they represent.

Amanda said...

A true story would show them in all of their exhaustion, with blotchy skin and dark eye circles and perhaps messy hair from sleeping in the family room at the hospital, all under hospital lighting, not professional photogs lights
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When i watched the video and saw the pictures of them at the hospital it struck me that they looked too rested. I thought it was funny that she had makeup on and her hair done.

I know when my mom was in the hospital for a knee replacement I had my hair in a ponytail and looked like I was strung out on coffee. You cn always tell people who have had loved ones in the hospital for an extended amount of time. There is a certain look about them. The Duggars don't have that look.

Anonymous said...

On the TLC site, there is a longer video clip of JB and Michelle, before Josie is born. Jim Bob has clearly been crying, Michelle looks awful, etc.

How the two of them could even contemplate a 20th child, with nearly losing both Michelle and the baby on #19 is beyond comprehension!

It's all for money! They want to keep the show going, so they will keep popping out kids like a giant litter of puppies. Unfortunately, children are not puppies, and they need love, care, support and guidance from their parents, which they are only getting from their sisters!

Bluesclues said...

Jon Gosselin is beginning to look like the smartest one in the bunch.
He got himself and kids OUT.

It seems you sign away all control when you invite TLC into your life.
Hope the money is worth it!

Im also taking bets as to how long until then next "gift"

Anonymous said...

"Her body may be "healthy", but that does not mean her womb is. "


Her womb is probably extremely healthy as she has had far fewer periods than most women.

Ollie said...

I came from a large family with a mentally unstable mother. Michelle reminds me of her so much. When the first of my younger brothers was on the way, we were younger and very excited. By the time my mom was pregnant with the youngest, my sister was 17, I was 14. We were devastated that she was pregnant AGAIN. (Even writing about now, 25 years later, is painful.) We knew that we would have to raise this child, while having pressure to perform in school and sports. We had no life. The older girls may have found babies exciting at first, but I venture to guess that they will not be happy if Michelle gets pregnant yet again. JB and M can only put so much responsibility on them before they crack. They are only human.
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I don't think you have to worry so much about the girls being able to stand up under the pressure. They aren't allowed to excel in academics or athletics, so no pressure there. And when you do the math each of the three eldest girls is only raising four-five kids, that can't be that hard for a teenager. The Duggar children must be self raising or something, given that Michelle mothers all 19 with only occasional help from the other children, and she hardly seems to do a thing except breastfeed!

Snap! said...

another RN- How does Michelle remind you of your mother? I think you are right. I never thought of it before. Mental illness. Collecting children. Letting your older children raise the younger ones. Odd naming- Joy Anna, Janna and Johannah- Josiah, Josie- Jinger- Jeremiah,Jedidiah. Not letting them get a proper education. It is becoming clearer to me now.

Anonymous said...

Amanda said...

They obviously trust the Today Show and People magazine as well as their TLC crew to respect their wishes as to how the family and Josie are portrayed during this very difficult time for all of them.
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If that is truly the case, then JB & M are ignorant beyond belief & I personally would not trust their judgement for a second. The Today Show, TLC & People will drop them so fast it will make your head spin once a jucier story comes along. If they're lucky, years from now they'll get a small mention somewhere as the family who once had a reality tv show.

Katydid

Nancy said...

Wow, what a sweet little baby. I do truly feel compassion for what the Duggars must be going through right now regardless of my own opinion that they (unintentionally) directly contributed to the baby being in this state.
I don't think they will have another one for the money and the show. It sort of seems that they might view the show and all the attention as a validation that they are doing God's will. That He somehow gave them this good fortune so that they can spread their views and to reward them. I'm not sure why I even think that. They just don't seem SO crass that they would use this sweet baby for money alone. More that they have bought their own hype now. I'm not articulating this the way I would like!
Anyhow, I hope for the best for the baby. I hope the older girls can start acting like young women (not housewives and mothers of 4 each) and that Michelle and Jim Bob are not able to conceive another baby that could end up in teh same boat.

Mary said...

Amanda, I totally I agree. The Duggars are all about selling an image. They look way to rested and perfect on the today show and in the magazine.
Our premmie was only in the hospital 17 days and DH and I look horrible in the photo the day we took DD home. Like the Duggars we lived 4 hours way from the NICU(but we didn't get a 8000 sq ft rental house, just a studio basement apartment). I think I showered maybe 4 times in the 17 days and was lucky to get 3 hours sleep a day. It was sweatpants, mountain dew, and headbands for me!

I know the today show/people magazine puts on makeup and does thier hair, but honestly I think Michelle and the older girls look better with less hair spray and makeup (Who knows what Jim Bob would look like without hairspray?).

Shari said...

Ok, time for me to vent....I've always tried to give this family the benefit of the doubt because (unlike the Gosselin train wreck), this family actually seemed to keep their values.....so what does it now say about their 'values' that they kept everything about this baby out of sight and suddenly the day their 'special' runs on tv, they appear on the Today show & publicity pics are plastered all over People mag. Please allow me to join in with all the other stomachs that are churning.....greedy greedy greedy....and it makes their 'message of encouragement' NULL and VOID. See ya, Duggars.

Ohio Buckeye said...

@ Mary : What an excellent point by you and others, that JB&M's NICU photos being reflective of anything BUT reality when a child is in NICU. You are so right: as with the Gosselins, the Duggars are a BRAND.

I also agree that Michelle and her girls are naturally pretty (could do without "Daddy's favorite" hairdos they all sport) and can get away without lots of makeup better than most of us. (I am glad that Michelle at least got rid of that 'do she had the first several seasons, with shorter hair in the front, then a mullet-like hunk of hair in the back - hillbilly heaven)

JimBob, though, with or without his hairspray, will always look (& act) like Howdy Doody.

Jane in California said...

Anonymous said...

"Her body may be "healthy", but that does not mean her womb is. "


Her womb is probably extremely healthy as she has had far fewer periods than most women.
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I'm no doctor but I'm pretty sure that carrying a baby for nine months in the womb then giving birth, 19 times, is much harder on a woman's body than having monthly periods.

I base this on the fact that before birth control was available, or even the knowledge of how to time intercourse to help reduce the chances of getting pregnant, many women were literally babied to death. Year after year churning out babies until their bodies gave out, usually during childbirth.

However, I could be wrong and am willing to listen to anyone who knows more about this subject than I.

Shawna said...

"I just have a great deal of anger & the strong urge to send them to their rooms until they can think like adults"

No!! They'll get pregnant again!!(hahaha)

Jim Bob and Michelle are attention crazed. I have a hunch it's not about the money.. it's more for the attention. They love it! You can just tell. Why else would Michelle even think about going and crying over/protesting a silly liquor license when her baby's life hung in the balance?? It seems to be they get restless when they aren't out there in the public making waves.

Anonymous said...

that 'behind the scenes' video of Jim Bob making a teary phone call to tell someone about Michelle delivering early makes me ill. He filmed that conversation?! SICK! His wife and daughter's lives were in danger and he's thinking about filming the moment for some extra $$.

Ohio Buckeye said...

@Anonymous: "Her womb is probably extremely healthy as she has had far fewer periods than most women."

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If this is to be taken seriously, please quote your source, because it conflicts with everything I've ever read in medical/scientific literature re: the health benefits of being constantly pregnant for 20 yrs. vs. having 20 yrs. of menstruation.

There is good reason puppy mills are illegal - unfair & unhealthy for the mom AND her puppies to have years and years of unbridled breeding and pregnancy.

Anonymous said...

I'm grateful for the fact that the Duggars pushed aside personal convenience so they could bring us this inside look at what a family goes through when a premature birth happens.

Ohio Buckeye said...

@Anonymous: I thought the SAME thing about that supposedly tear-eyed JB, allowing camera crews to film his dramatic phone call home. Tacky AT BEST. Faked at worst.

Like wheeling his dying father to a b'day celebration at the dining room table ON CAMERA.....

Like that bogus "The Talk" scene before Josh/Anna's wedding....

Like the whole 'reality' formulaic 'vow renewal' (we all now know what a scam that is on TLC after J&K+8)....

Like having his wife roll down a hill in a big, plastic ball to make an episode...

Like his pretending to feed the kids lunch by preparing tuna and BBQ sauce (that's a new low in cuisine even for the Duggars)...

Like allowing the staged NICU photo op with that poor, struggling baby.....

Is there NOTHING of this man's life and family that he will not sell out?

Will his wife EVER grow up and tell The Patriarch 'no'? "Having a servant's heart" is one thing. Being a Patriarch's unquestioningly obedient dog is quite another, IMO.

NotMyFamily said...

When I first saw the photos of Josie, I thought of those photographers that have services to come into the hospital to photograph families and new babies that die prior birth. They do tasteful photos of the mom, dad and baby since they are not ever going to have another chance to do so.
We lost our son shortly after birth and while I was in surgery, our nurse photographed our baby in his bassinett. They are treasured now.
If this were my tiny, LIVING blessing, I would not want to take a chance just to have photos made.

These folks are too cavalier about all of their "blessings"

I think I am done with them as well.

Ohio Buckeye said...

Not My Family: I am so sorry for your loss. May peace be yours.

another RN said...

Well said, notmyfamily. My sincerest condolences in your loss. I hope you find peace.

Anonymous said...

NotMyFamily - I'm so glad that you posted about your experience so we could all see a very different perspective on the situation. Like OhioBuckeye I am extremely sorry for your loss, but I'm also glad that you shared for those of us who have no idea what's it's like to be in that position. Your story really makes what the Duggars are doing all that much more inappropriate.
-Christina

Anonymous said...

As much as I have enjoyed their show, I think it is time that the Duggar family stopped filming. If they must due to some belief that it is evangelizing, at least go back to the annual specials.

The show has become too product placement oriented, the episodes too scripted, and the strain on the family to "keep up appearances" must be enormous. They need to stop, live in the moment, and enjoy the 19 blessings they have.

I was shocked to read in the article that they are even now contemplating number 20... now? Seriously? You're thinking about having another baby while this one's life hangs in the balance?

Anonymous said...

I've been an Nicu nurse for 30 years, and it's amazing the advancements that have been made during that time. Yes, a baby like Josie would be up in her parents' arms as long as her condition was stable at visiting time. Looks like she is on a high flow nasal cannula which supplies oxygen. This therapy is often used for babies with chronic lung disease who no longer need mechanical ventilation, but still require oxygen to meet saturation guidelines. CLD is very common for the extremely premature population, who often times require the use of oxygen therapy at home.

I agree with everyone else that the Ds are having their strings pulled by the TLC master, every bit as much as that other family. It's just too bad, as the Ds seemed like nice ppl, at least at the onset....

Ollie said...

I have to say, the staged ping pong photo really bugs me. About ten years ago my cousin had a premie just a little older than Josie and between taking care of her at the hospital and trying to spend some time each day with her four year old she certainly didn't have the time or energy for photo ops or ping pong games. Also note that Jim Bob and Michelle are playing against each other, again spending time together while ignoring the slew of kids that might benefit from some one on one with mom or dad. (Yes, I know they were probably told where to stand for the photo, but I see it as echoing what we've observed in the shows). There were so many more appropriate photo ops, (i.e. the family praying together, eating dinner, or M or JB spending quality time with one or two of the littler ones) that would have still allowed the Duggars to profit from this tragedy (I mean encourage others) and also portray a positive and more realistic looking image of their family. I don't know whether its ignorance or arrogance, but the Duggars seem to become less media savvy every year. I'm certainly no expert on PR, but if I was in their position and someone suggested that we take a group photo with a ping pong theme I would probably have the smarts to say no.
It's like the Duggars live in their own little la-la land where everything is always almost perfect and if not they just ignore the issue. I realize most fathers dream of the day they''ll give their little girl away, but in Josie's case it would probably be better if they kept their expectations more modest for the time being. My hope for Josie is that this time next year she's at home happily playing with her siblings and bonded with which ever sister is her primary caregiver.

Bluesclues said...

Ohio Buckeye said...
@Anonymous: I thought the SAME thing about that supposedly tear-eyed JB, allowing camera crews to film his dramatic phone call home. Tacky AT BEST. Faked at worst.
s there NOTHING of this man's life and family that he will not sell out?
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Well said.
This show is no longer about their unique way of living. It is just one large commercial for sponser's products and places of interest eg sky diving, diamond digging etc

You forgot to list the cameras placed at the head of the grandfathers coffin,, so that the loved ones final moments with his remains were broadcast for the world.

Will camera man Scott get to film Jessa, Jinger or Jana giving birth??

Blueseas said...

Anonymous said...
As much as I have enjoyed their show, I think it is time that the Duggar family stopped filming. If they must due to some belief that it is evangelizing, at least go back to the annual specials.
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Yup, its Jon and Kate, except the parents dont hate each other

Its no longer a documentary on how this unique family does everyday things, but rather just a large advertisement for sponser's products

Its more about finding the next diamond farm or skydiving place to make an outing so some footage can be shot.

Jane in California said...

NotMyFamily,

My heart goes out to you and your family for your loss.

The D's do seem too cavalier about the blessings they have. Any risk of infection for this preemie should be too much risk, but apparently it was more important to get a shot on the cover of People. Ugh.

Can't See Sheep said...

I am sorry for your loss NotMyFamily, I do appreciate hearing hearing from someone who has experienced these things first hand, it is always educating, but I am sorry for what you had to go through.

Ohio Buckeye said...
Will his wife EVER grow up and tell The Patriarch 'no'? "Having a servant's heart" is one thing. Being a Patriarch's unquestioningly obedient dog is quite another, IMO.
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Nope, not just your opinion, mine too. It's one thing to have a servant's heart, it's another to be used like a servant. Just like it's one thing to be the head of a family & quite another to put yourself first. There is a wide world of difference between these things.

It's so irritating when people think they can teach others to have a servant heart & don't have one themselves. Having a servant's heart has nothing to do with being disrespected, taken advantage of or being used as a doormat.

You have to be humble to actually teach humility, otherwise you're just teaching people to wait on you & do what you tell them. Humility is so much more than how you dress or cut your hair. I don't see any humility in JB or Michelle other than their clothes & haircuts.

They can keep telling me their humble until the cows come home, I'm not buying it & I'm also not buying that it's all TLC's doing. I will always maintain that nice people do not sign up to sell their family on a weekly basis, but money mongers & fame-whores do.

Shawna said...
Jim Bob and Michelle are attention crazed. I have a hunch it's not about the money.. it's more for the attention. They love it! You can just tell.
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I have been wondering this for sometime & it's looking to me like you're right, it isn't just the money that spurs these two on. Anyone know when their contract is up with TLC? IF they sign for another season, we'll know for certain.

The WW pregnant all the time reminds me of a queen bee, how the hive is always so focused on her, buzzing around her, she does little more than continually give birth, but the attention of the hive is on her. Far too similar to the Duggars.

Celestie said...

I truly hate to say this, but I'm not seeing any difference between cat or dog "hoarders" and the folks that want children. They seem so proud of the numbers add up, but not happy to be raising their children . I would hope that most of us have children, so we can raise them, enjoy them and help them learn about life, then give them wings.

another RN said...

I totally agree about the ping pong picture. Not only does it appear staged, but both parents look awkward. I also agree that many other photo ops could have been used. Again, the kids are on the periphery of JB and M's romance, nothing more than un-hired help.

I find it ironic that John Edwards is on the mag cover. He and Jim Bob look an awful lot alike. I realize the circumstances are much different, but in a way I see them as the same. Two very egotistical men who think they are above natural law. JB cannot continue to impregnate his wife without consequences. We all know the Edwards' story, seems he thought he could what he wanted also. JB and M cannot have such an active physical relationship at their whim without consequences.

As much as I dislike a lot of what the Duggars do, I do think at one time they were sincere. Unfortunately, the whole situation has gotten bigger than them and they seemed to have strayed from themselves. I hope someday soon they can step back and see the big picture. It's OK that they seemingly strayed from their values, we all do. I look at it as a way to re-examine choices and grow. I hope they do too.

Best wishes for Josie's continuing growth and health.

intervention needed said...

As has been mentioned previously, it is my belief that Ms. WW has such little self esteem that she believes the only way to achieve love is through giving birth. It is similar with addicits of any kind. They have such terrible self worth that they believe the only way they can get attention, or to valued as a human being is by pleasing others

... often at the risk of their own lives.

She is an addict, a pregnancy junkie. It is sick. I suppose thats why she's sold her soul to the cameras.

me, just me said...

Michelle is playing with a serious book of matches. You CANNOT cut that up. Ask any OB/GYN.. every. single. pregnancy takes it toll on the uterus and some women who have many children end up with complications of their own health in the process. Why play that game of chance, especially if a life in any form or fashion is hanging in the balance?

I think it's irresponsible what they're doing. In my most humble but still ticked off opinion, enough is enough. Knock it off, Duggars! Look forward to years and years of grandchildren! Look forward to your twilight years without being "Mommy and Daddy."

I really believe God is speaking through them. I believe God is using them to show an example of false prophesy, false humility and false pride.

Really hope they go the way of the tree (leave) soon. They used to be so uplifting, but now they're just pathetic in their greedy money hungry ways.

Anonymous said...

@LeashTraining
LOVE that you called her J'ichelle...Love it.

AmyKB said...

well, this goes against almost everyone's thoughts on potential baby #20... for mothers who have a very premature birth, some should consider avoiding another high-risk pregnancy. Others shouldn't, since the circumstances are different for each woman.

Just because one baby was born micro-preemie doesn't mean the next one will be. For JB&M, if Josie was their first, they certainly would follow their "convictions" and have a second baby. So, since it's their #19, they should quit? Yes, they do have 18 more at home, but for them, in this case, that's irrelevant. If Jennifer or Jordyn (or any of the children before that) had been born with disabilities, would they have stopped before Josie? Probably not. So why would they stop with Josie?

While it might not be the most intelligent thing to do, JB&M's decision to continue to bring new life into the world shouldn't be clouded by the state of Josie. It should be influenced by their parenting abilities (can they handle one more? esp. with the older girls coming up on "20" which is apparently the marriageable age according to this article) and Michelle's specific case (Sarver or whatever the doc's name is hasn't given her a red light previously, but is she getting one now?).

VillageMom said...

I disagree that everyone who has a loved one in the hospital for an extended length of time must look haggard. I can certainly understand why they would, but it's not a universal thing.

Last summer my son was in the hospital for six weeks due to a ruptured appendix. I also had a newborn at the time... and three children in the middle.

I was at the hospital all day, every day, going home at night just to nurse the baby. I still managed to shower and put on a little make-up each day. It didn't take much time but it made me feel better.

So Michelle and Jim Bob showered that morning before some photos were taken. Then a make-up artist brushed on some blush and powder. That doesn't mean that the rest of their day wasn't spent caring for their family.

Ohio Buckeye said...

@AmyKB: You bring up a very good point, that each woman is (and should be) free to make her own childbearing decisions.

To reflect back to previous births, wondering if any of the babies had been prematurely born, would the Duggars continue on with their annual baby would seem to require that each pregnancy 'resets' the clock. Physiologically, there is no resetting of the maternal clock.

J'ichelle (love it, previous poster) is a year older with every pregnancy. Her uterus has been through at least 19 placental attachments and unattachments as well as several C-sections. Her abdominal and perineal muscles and ligaments have been stretched at least 19 times. Add to that list the fact that age adds its own toll to EVERY body AND previous pre-eclampsia coupled with maternal age represents its own risk factor.

When this list is tallied, it's impossible to believe that each pregnancy decision is made on the same level playing field.

Conversely, each pregnancy, each bygone year of maternal youth means that the risks continue to mount ever higher.

So, perhaps if an earlier child had been prematurely born with such incredible physical hurdles as Josie, it might've made sense to green light another pregnancy.
But when you look at J'ichelle's overall age and pregnancy history and picture, it's a whole different decision.

JMO, with J'ichelle's reality of maternal age and high gravidity, coupled with previous pre-eclampsia, it's irresponsible to risk putting another fetus at such risk as Josie is now facing.

Further, hoping for Josie's survival, it's likely she will need lots of extra care when she gets home for an extended period, possibly forever. WHO will be free to provide the extra care if J'ichelle is pregnant and/or tending to the next baby?

Anonymous said...

They shouldn't stop having children because of having one micropreemie - they should stop having children because they already have so many of them, and have demonstrated that they're far more interested in procreating than parenting. The older children have more than enough little ones to look after as it is and don't need any more.

They should also stop having children due to the health of M and the reason this pregnancy ended so abruptly - pre-eclampsia, and the added complication of multiple C-sections in a woman who has had at least 20 pregnancies, counting the initial pregnancy that ended in miscarriage - I don't know if there have been any other miscarriages.

I try to imagine myself ever having managed to care for nearly 20 children, and it doesn't take long to realize it would be an impossibility to give each individual child the care and closeness that they deserve to have with a parent, not with a sibling.

I think they've benefitted a great deal financially in many forms (including vacations, wedding dresses, etc.), and I think they derive emotional benefit from the whole scenario, he as the king of the hill, the patriarch whose word approaches that of a deity, and she as the smiling, submissive vehicle of his desires as well as her own desire to achieve notariety by prolific breeding. I don't think it's the growing human individual known and loved over the course of many years, which is how I hope most of us view our children, but the mere acts of pregnancy and childbirth and the attention given to any woman who has recently given birth, the praise, the congratulations, what I'd bet anything she perceives as admiration.

ellie said...

I had really wanted to give the Duggars the benefit of the doubt on the lack of updates, in light of this difficult time, but I guess nothing is really more important to this family than money and attention.
I should know better then to be dissapointed, but I am.

DotingGrandparents said...

They're not going to stop, let's face it.

And don't you just LOVE how little Mac has been DOTED on by her paternal grandparents these first few months of her little life!?!
Yeah-------------right.
If J.B. or Jichelle hung over her crib her thoughts would probably be: "Who the Frack are THESE people?! MO-MEEEEEE!!!!! Come quick!"

Jennifer said...

Where is TLC in this equation? TLC is a company out to make a profit. The Duggar family did sign a contract to do "X" number of shows per year. Could TLC not have approached the family to remind them of this fact? As a celebrity a certain amount of your privacy is given up for money and certain story lines being filmed may not be what you want to be shown but what the network wants to show.

It's the editors who decide what goes on the air and what does not based on what is going to make the most interesting story and make the most money for the network and their advertisers. It is not the Duggar family themselves. Showing JimBob on the phone in an emotional moment asking the family to pray was something TLC decided to show. While JimBob had to consent to that being tapped, he did not necessarily consent to this being shown on the air.

Personally I believe TLC approached the Today Show in order to promote the show and not the other way around. I also believe People approached the Duggar family the tell America what has been going on with this family. Yes, the timing is perfect for their special but could this not have been the work on TLC as well? I believe this is the case for many of the Duggar announcements such as each pregnancy, the sex of each baby and even when Anna found out she was pregnant and gave birth. TLC may very well have approached Josh & Anna (and the Today show) and told him this would make a wonderful memory for their child one day in order for them to agree to being taped.

SteelMagnolia said...

I said I wasn't going to do it - after boycotting TLC over the other "family" fiasco . . .

But I couldn't help myself tonight. Just had to watch and see for myself how little Josie is doing.

I came away sickened and very disheartened at the risk that JB and J'chelle took that put this poor baby in such a condition.

She is TINY!!!! And hooked up to all kinds of wires and tubes and very apparently struggling to breathe.

I won't be feeding the TLC beast anymore. I am done with them.

Anonymous said...

Jennifer that is exactly why the Duggars need to take back their life. Who wants someone else calling the shots with your family like that.

This is exactly what happens when real people play themselves for a television show. It is not reality most of the time but scripted lines and trips.

I am sure TLC arranged the announcement with The Today and who knows it might be in their contract that they have to appear on The Today show. But who would want someone else having that much control over your family? In the end the perks and money is just not worth it.

The Duggars need to take note and see what has happened to other reality television families. I don't think that Jim Bob and Michelle's marriage will end or suffer even, but who knows what those kids might end up feeling in a few years having their private moments televised like they have been.

I think the moment the that the family went in to see the baby for the first time should have been private. There were a lot of emotions in that room and they should have been private. It might have been that TLC asked if the parents if they minded being filmed and they gave permission then shame on them.

Anonymous said...

@ Jennifer

With all due respect, Jim Bob is an intelligent human being, if he agreed to be filmed he also knew he was agreeing for that to be shown on the air. Furthermore, when he and Michelle agreed to allow their family to be filmed for a weekly show they basically gave up their right to privacy. If Jim Bob was smart he put lots of clauses in the contract that would allow him to regulate what we see, but I doubt it since he seems so attention hungary that he probably wouldn't have done anything that might have caused TLC to look for another family. I know it sounds cold, but I have absolutely no sympathy for the Duggars and their lack of privacy now, they brought this on themselves.

Ravello said...

I'm sad to say the Duggars are just a kindler gentler version of the Gosselins. The show I just watched made me so angry, Michelle and JB are playing Russian Roulette, having baby after baby. What if the worst case scenario happens and she has a stroke or worse? She has so many little ones at home who need her. Stop the madness, Jim Bob, please. And get the TV cameras out of the NICU. I have a medical background and I was disgusted.

Anonymous said...

Wow, what a great show!!! I'm so thankful the Duggars were willing to share Josie and her birth with us.

I was moved at so many times, to tears.

SteelMagnolia said...

Anonymous said...
Wow, what a great show!!! I'm so thankful the Duggars were willing to share Josie and her birth with us.

I was moved at so many times, to tears.

1/31/2010 8:37 PM
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Well, OF COURSE they were willing to share! They're getting PAID to do so!

Anonymous said...

Yes, I watched. And for the life of me, I cannot imagine why this couple would have chosen to allow the world to peep in on their most private moments. I have been fortunate not to have gone through anything so distressing as the Duggars have with the birth of this tiny girl - I can assure you, I would have wanted privacy, my family and loved ones, and a closed door. I am quite disturbed that they agreed to this public display - some of the other kids were clearly upset by their first glimpse of such a tiny sister. Totally inexplicable to me why the parents would want such publicity.

Kelly Renee said...

I am writing this after finally being able to sit down and watch the new show (I dvr everything!) and I am also writing this without first reading any comments so I don't know what the overall response was. But I felt that is was well done, very touching and very informative. It clearly showed their faith in God and how they use that faith in their daily life. It also showed some of the more normal aspects of the Duggar household, such as schoolwork, something that lots of comments are directed toward and I found that they all came together and worked well together as a team. And allowing the older kids to go to El Salvador as planned was also a good thing to see since many times comments about their lack of being allowed to do other things outside the family home is something that is also talked alot about here. It showed that they weren't nearly as incompetent as some might think that they are, but rather it showed that they raised their children in a loving, caring environment and it has paid off in the long run. I don't know if anyone will say the first viewing by the children of their new sister should be on tv or not, but I found it to be very touching and even cried myself. After all, I have read alot on here about wanting to know, well now we know about Josie. I also believe this show was also in keeping with what the Duggars have always claimed all along, that they want to be an inspiration to others. How do we know that some or even many parents who are also going through this kind of a tough thing in their life aren't benefiting by seeing how they have reacted to this event? Just because many of us don't find inspiration in what they say and do does not mean that others do not. I believe in the bible it says this is "planting seeds", some will grow and some will fall on rock and blow away. Maybe the people who don't find the Duggars as inspirational are the ones who are already on a rock and don't need that kind of inspiration in their life. And as for comments about the money TLC is paying them, I say, go for it. If showing us this kind of thing on national tv will help the family feed those children, clothe those children, pay the hospital bill, and more importantly allow them to go to places like El Salvador so they can help others, how bad can it really be? In everything you do, do it for the glory of God and you can't be wrong!! Anyway, that is my motto and it works very well for me. I want to thank the Duggars for a job well done and I want to say that I have not changed my opinion about them at all during their years on tv. I personally don't want that many children to care for but others do and I bet those people learn alot just by watching.......maybe even learn some thing that they should be avoiding!! But that is ok. It is a reality show about a REAL family living life on life's terms and coming through it with love in their hearts for each other and for God. I loved what Jim Bob said about how we praise God when things are good but we also praise Him when things are bad. And that my friends is what it is all about!

Momof6andcounting said...

What a touching post, Kelly.
I can.t watch it here in Europe and have to wait for youtube , but you gave me the first insights.
The Duggars are for me very inspirational and I admire them.

roddma said...

Yes but not all big families or small for that matter have a show on TV to pay their bills. I wouldnt doubt if TLC has loads of tapes of wanna be Duggars.The article ( like others)sounds as if it were well constructed to make living this lifestyle sound easier. We know more about monthly cycles now since women have fewer babies.I have not seen evidence to support fewer periods makes you healthier. "Planting seeds" to many times can backfire.

Anonymous said...

Is nothing private or sacred any more?

Why does a family who won't even wear pants due to the "lust" it might invoke, allow Michelle's bare belly and the naked Josie to be shown on TV? I would never, never, never in a million years allow TV cameras in filming any of my births, and absolutely and certainly not an emergency Csection of a 25 weeker. And then, to exploit my brand new micropreemie like that, on national television?

I was beyond disgusted. I thought it was worse than anything at all the Gosselins did. So we watched toilet training, but we never, ever saw exposed genitals. And sure, we saw Kate's belly, but she also wore short skirts and never promised that she was so "modest".

Dunwoody Mom said...

Wow, what a great show!!! I'm so thankful the Duggars were willing to share Josie and her birth with us.

Willing? More like their TLC contract calls for them to available for filming 24x7. I find it shameful that any parent would allow such personal, family moments to be filmed for public viewing.

another RN said...

Even though I had misgivings, I watched last night. Though I mostly disagree with 90% of everything the Duggars do and say, I was pleasantly surprised by some things and not so much by others.

First with the good, I am not a person of faith, but both my son and I found the prayers and togetherness of the family very touching. I really admire the way the family handled the crisis. Of course, the kids are used to not having parents, so maybe it wasn't such a big deal.

The trip to El Salvador looked great. The kids seemed genuinely excited. I wish I had had such an opportunity as a child.

JB crying was probably the first sincere display of emotion I have ever seen from him. He is usually just finding some way to brag about himself. This was very different. I can't help but hope that he is finally going to stop taking his wife and unborn children's health for granted.

The kids also got a wake up call when they saw Josie. I would imagine it was very scary and shocking. I think the older girls realized that life as they knew it is about to change.

I think Anna got a dose of reality. Enough said. Those younger kids are WILD! BTW, I can't stand that they have a soda machine in their house. Gross!

The fact that Michelle was flown via helicopter to a higher level center tells me that there was WAY more going on than a passing gall stone. Pregnant women have gallbladder attacks frequently. It is NOT a reason to fly someone. I am a flight nurse in the northeast and have been for several years. A community hospital can handle a gravid woman with gallstones, even if she needs emergency surgery. There was more going on there. A flight costs around $12-18K and insurance needs a real justification for such an expense. If she was stable, and required transfer, she could have gone by ambulance. Getting into a helicopter is serious business and dangerous; definitely not to be taken lightly. Perhaps Michelle's BP was already dangerously high. She is considered high risk due to her age and previous c-sections, so perhaps they were anticipating a pre-term delivery. Perhaps she was beginning to have HELLP syndrome, which is a variant of pre-ecclampsia. Perhaps the gallstones may have been a blessing because the pain got her to the hospital and found other problems?

"Doctor" Josh said that gallstones aren't usually serious. He is wrong. Acute cholecystitis is often (not always) a surgical emergency. Sometimes the stone will pass, but if the person has an elevated white count and elevated pancreatic enzymes, out it goes. Acute pancreatitis, gallbladder perforation and liver damage are VERY serious. Bad information from the uneducated again. Now, I don't expect Josh to know medical details, I just expect him to refrain from saying it with such conviction on TV. Naturally, he had to make sure everyone knew he was "in charge". Of course someone had to take the reins, but must he broadcast it? Gentle leadership without ego involvement is far more effective and educational for one's stewards.

Does Michelle only call her kids, "my babies" or "the older girls"? A little disconcerting there.

I am really amazed to see how well Josie is doing. She looked so frail but seems to be better now. I hope her improving health continues. My hope is that those parents in similar situations have good outcomes. Medical miracles happen all the time, both with and without prayer.

Anonymous said...

Most large families are not sitting around hoping TLC comes knocking to pay the bills. Most people who choose to have large families plan on making sacrifies to pay for their growing brood.

I also don't see how having fewer cycles throughout your life is healthier. I know after my pregnancies I am vitamin depleated - my hair is dull and thinning, my nails are brittle, and my skin is very dry.

The "planting seeds" comment had nothing to do with having children. The poster was refering to how the Duggars are encouraging others with their faith and lifestyle. Some people are encouaged because they are open to being encouraged like the seeds planted on fertile ground. Some are not encouraged like the seeds that fall on the rocky ground.

The Duggars have had a pretty normal life without any real tests of faith, especially since the cameras started rolling. I think it's hard to live your faith when times are tuff. The Duggars are doing that now, and we are watching.

Jan said...

I don't understand the need for names like Wonderwomb or Boob-

I do not believe for a moment that the Arkansas Children's Hospital would compromise a pts. health for a photo op. I believe it took one camera, one person to take those shots, and if it was a People photographer, I can assure you that they were gowned and gloved. COme on folks, Josie was not compromised by these pictures. I can understand finding them distasteful etc...but it's not like she was on a hot set.

I think we can stick to facts without name calling and making more of s situation than needs to be.

The Duggar's chose to share this with the world. That is their right.

Anonymous said...

First - I have to say that when all the kids were seeing Josie for the first time, and JB came in to say to them all that she was perfect in every way, I really felt that was the best thing he could have said and was likely very comforting to everyone there. I felt it was sincere, and not scripted.

Second - I am not generally a fan of 'reality' television, and I REFUSED to watch J&K+8. Call me crazy, but I just don't see the Duggars in the same light as that 'other' family. I do think the D's are manipulated by TLC and much of what we see is heavily edited and/or scripted, but I still admire the message. If nothing else, they've made me think, question - and rethink - what I believe about lots of things. I feel that on a wider scale, getting people to think and question what is main-stream, popular or emphasized in the greater media is something JB&M were aiming for by agreeing to a regular show in the first place. I'll continue to watch.

another RN said...

Anonymous @ 12:33, I like what you had to say. I am not religious, I left my faith years ago, but something about the D's attracts me. I don't like or agree on much of their lifestyle, but it does get me thinking. I guess I would be considered "mainstream" for all intents and purposes. While I don't feel that way, I certainly would be in comparison to them. The Duggars do what they think is best according to their beliefs. I wish they engaged in more critical thinking, but they don't seem to care about what others think because their convictions are so strong. I don't agree with the Gothard or QF teachings AT ALL, but I admire their fierceness, I really do. (Although I don't agree with following any human's interpretation of faith, we are just that-human and fallible, too risky if you ask me.) It's humbling to watch sometimes. I guess maybe that is the point in the end.

Jane in California said...

Ravello said:
What if the worst case scenario happens and she has a stroke or worse? She has so many little ones at home who need her. Stop the madness, Jim Bob, please.
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After reading some information provided by a former Quiverful wife, and a couple of articles written about the Quiverful movement, I gained the insight that even if Michelle was told that another pregnancy could prove fatal, she will not heed that advice. Apparently, you get caught up in this wonderful feeling of euphoria that you are glorifying yourself for God. If you die in the process, it would be like a female warrior on a mission for God.

Apparently, somehow, it's more important that you keep having babies than in staying alive and healthy to care for the ones you've already produced.

Hand in hand with that is the way they raise the daughters to take on the mothering role. Not only does it help the actual mother to continue producing more and more babies, should the mother die, the daughters can basically just carry on as they have been and officially take over the mothering role.

If Michele dies in childbirth, that's what will happen. The older girls will simply carry on in raising their younger siblings. Likely, JB will marry another woman within 18 months after Michele's passing, and probably a younger one too, and go on to have many more children, so he can proudly tell strangers that he's the father of 30 children.

Anonymous said...

"The Duggar's chose to share this with the world. That is their right."

Too bad Josie didn't have the right to choose if she wanted it shared with the world.

roddma said...

What is Christian about leaving children without a mother to 'glorify God'. Unlike the Duggars I would be content with 1-3. Discontentment is what got America in trouble. Once again the article glosses over this lifestyle. It is the older kids making the sacrifce here.

How is Joyanna and the other school age kids getting their studies done in El Salvador? Im not saying they arent but it seems that way. Most regular people couldnt afford this kind of trip. I wouldnt let a preteen or under 16 say, go so far away without me. ther ar eplenty of things youth can do in their own communities.

Anonymous said...

I guess maybe I'm not looking at the same photos as most of you but I don't see where any of the medical equipment the baby needs has been removed. I see a nasal cannula and feeding tube both intact in all of the pictures. What am I missing? I don't see an IV but if the baby is meeting all of her intake needs through the feeding tube she may not require the IV at this time.

Anonymous said...

To the poster who wanted to know what was happening about school while the school age kids were in El Salvador, this happened over Christmas vacation and I know my grandchildren in public school had at least two weeks off. The trip only lasted for a week so I doubt that much school work was missed. When they came back home a friend of the family was there to help watch kids and help them with their school work. I believe she came to Little Rock with them. I know she was with the group when they went to see Josie in the hospital.

Anonymous said...

Can we all note in the Ping Pong picture, on the left side, the little girl that looks as though she is going to fall out the window?

Anonymous said...

These pictures could have been taken through glass - thus no added germs from a cameraman.

Lmbabies said...

Anonymous said...

"Second - I am not generally a fan of 'reality' television, and I REFUSED to watch J&K+8. Call me crazy, but I just don't see the Duggars in the same light as that 'other' family. I do think the D's are manipulated by TLC and much of what we see is heavily edited and/or scripted, but I still admire the message. If nothing else, they've made me think, question - and rethink - what I believe about lots of things. I feel that on a wider scale, getting people to think and question what is main-stream, popular or emphasized in the greater media is something JB&M were aiming for by agreeing to a regular show in the first place. I'll continue to watch."

These are my thoughts exactly, only said much better than I tried to say.

This is the effect the Duggars have on me also, and I love it! I love thinking about things from different angles and in new ways than I had thought about them before. This is why I'm continuing to watch too.