Tues, April 27, Duggar Mountain Way

The Duggars plan a day trip to Pinnacle Mountain complete with hiking, camouflage demonstration, and a picnic. But will the family ruin their appetites when the Pinnacle Mountain Tour Guides ask them to become members of the "I Ate a Bug Club?"

30 minutes

96 comments:

Anonymous said...

If Amy is going.. I am not watching..

Anonymous said...

I wonder how many of them will actually eat the bugs...

Anonymous said...

Maybe it doesn't go with Jim Bob's diet, not like he follows it.

SuzanneDeAZ said...

Here is a episode which should not have cost TLC a lot to put on being they did not have a lot of expenses traveling or paying fees. I doubt if the girls will try eating bugs.

Anonymous said...

The Duggars Do 'Fear Factor'??

Puhleeze.

Anonymous said...

Another boring event for all those older kids. Enough with all the stupid field trips.

babysteps said...

I think the little kids will eat a bug. One of them claimed to eat grass. Remember, Duggar grass is better than Bates grass? We've often seen them eat off the floor. If they are the chocolate covered bugs they will all do it cause they have the Duggar sweet tooth.

Anonymous said...

I want Amy to go. I like her a lot, and find her almost a "relief" to me. I bet if she does go, she gobble down a couple of those suckers. Amy is so much fun.

Anonymous said...

I'm really excited to see them play predator and prey. Sounds like fun! I think it will be interesting.

babysteps said...

If Amy goes and is asked to eat a bug she'll scream like Kate Gosselin. I don't think I can handle that!

CappuccinoLife said...

I saw flipflops on one of the older girls in the trailer. She is going to regret that.

Other than that, it looks like a lot of fun. My kids would just die with happiness to play a game like that. They love the woods.

Anonymous said...

I doubt they will eat real bugs!

Midwest Mom said...

Another theatrical performance opportunity for cousin Amy.

I'm not sure how this is episode is "encouragement" for others.

bonehead said...

So, why are they going to this place. Why because they can't play in the fenced in yard at the house? I saw the episode with the Bates. They managed to play in the yard and there were twice as many people staying there. Jimbob is full of it.

Anonymous said...

I only started watching The Duggars about 2 weeks ago an the more I watch the Duggars the more I want to throw up. Love that network name: "The Learning Channel". Ha! It should be called 'The Modern Circus Freak Side-Show Channel' !

Cyn said...

Why because they can't play in the fenced in yard at the house? I saw the episode with the Bates. They managed to play in the yard and there were twice as many people staying there.
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With twice as many adults to keep an eye on them as well.

Celestie said...

This is how I predicate episode will go. We will see the Duggars, running on Duggar time, attempt to load up bus. Little kids will be running around like banshees. Next shot, everyone is on the bus and singing Amazing Grace.
Upon arrival, Ma and Pa will clasp hands and head off, occasionally pausing long enough for a smooch, but never looking back. Following behind will be a bunch of little boys, and the older girls, tending, carrying and pushing the little girls in strollers. (All little girls will have massive foreign objects on heads.)

Ma will erroneously tell the children they are going to see bugs, which are part of the "reptile" family. Pa will state some convoluted thing about where they are, while looking totally confused as to where they actually are. The older girls will look bored, the gaggle of boys will stand quietly, wondering where the heck they are, and why. Pa will coerce the older girls to eat a bug. He of course won't. There will be a box on screen saying how many Duggars ate a bug. Ma will say something in her childlie voice, about never seeing anything like this before and aren't they lucky? The girls will attempt to hike in tight skirts and flip flops. No one will have any fun. End of day.
For the first time in recorded history, Ma will not be smothering an infant under a blanket.

Amanda said...

There are a lot of things to do there...A hike up and down the mountain, a nature trail, playground. It's where my husband and I had our first date.

Let the boys run around till they get tired, at least they aren't sliding down stairs head first

Anonymous said...

Wouldn't you just love to see those older kids FOR ONCE get to do an age appropriate activity for them? Why are all of these "field trips" geared towards the youngest ten, and the older kids have to go play "hide 'n seek" and act like they are having fun?

I am so darn tired of this show. I don't even watch it anymore, and just catch up on episodes from the blogs. I hope it goes off the air soon.

And why haven't we heard anything about Josie? I don't think she has come home again (after her 24 at home fiasco) and there hasn't been a mention of the mother's day special. I hope that they stop filming that tiny, helpless baby and that this trainwreck ends.

CappuccinoLife said...

What would be wrong with them going? Why should they be limited to their yard?

Whatever ones personal feelings, why is is a bad thing for the Duggar kids to go have fun in the woods?

Anonymous said...

"Ma will erroneously tell the children they are going to see bugs, which are part of the "reptile" family."
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The botany lesson will be equally inforamtive and fodder for the next episode - Duggars and Rashes - the poison ivy episode.

Anonymous said...

Thanks, Celestie, I couldn't have predicted the episode any better myself!

Krissy said...

LOL, I think Celestie should be a writer for the show, she pretty much described how the episode will play out.

And for God's sake, enough with the stupid field trips! Those poor older girls looks so bored and ridiculous doing all this baby stuff. Anyone remember the episode of them riding around on that kiddie train? I mean what teenager really wants to do this stuff? And I'm sure it's going to be real fun climbing a mountain in tree trunk denim skirts.

Anonymous said...

Celestie said:
For the first time in recorded history, Ma will not be smothering an infant under a blanket.
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*snort!*

But, but, but .... how will we know she's a breast-feeding mother of 19 if she's not wearing the breast friend???

I know - maybe she could wear a big blue bow on her head that says "Mother of the Year". That way, no one will forget that she is a super duper mom. Maybe one of the indentured servants could make such an accessory for her.

Nadalie McGarvey said...

Celestie - I read this blog from time to time, usually when there is a new episode, but I have never commented until now. Your comment about your prediction for this episode made me burst out laughing though, because I was thinking the exact same thing! I just thought I would let you know that at least one other person thinks the same thing lol

Celestie said...

I'm very pro field trip, if it is enjoyable for the entire family, and most importantly, someone knows where they are.

Anonymous said...

Krissy said:
Anyone remember the episode of them riding around on that kiddie train? I
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Yes, I remember that episode well. That farm visit was appropriate for young children, and no doubt a huge snore fest for the older ones. But the older ones had to go because as unpaid nannies, they are responsible for the younger children. This allowed Michelle and JimBob to share a kiddie train and kiss (yuck) and not have to do the actual parenting work involved in taking young ones on a field trip. How nice for them.

What I don't understand is why the entire family must go on each and every outing that's being filmed. Is this because they get paid per family member that appears in the episode, so they pack them in?

When I was growing up, of course the entire family went on our annual summer vacation. We were also expected to attend en masse any school function that a sibling was involved in - school recital, play, etc. As we got older, we were allowed to take a pass on attending a brother or sister's soccer or baseball game. We were to be in attendance at every sibling's family birthday party (and yes, even with 8 kids, my family celebrated each one individually and made a big deal of it).

It's just so contrived. This trip is just something the producers dreamed up in order to have something to film that might make a halfway interesting show. As Celestie already predicted, we know exactly how it's going down. Older girls doing the parenting of the younger kids, JB & Michelle in their own world, hiking around in long denim skirts, and JB pontificating about something or other.

LOL - really, it has the exact opposite effect of me wanting to become ATI. I see these shows and give gracious thanks to the gods above that I was raised in privacy, with options, and not forced into indentured servitude until I escaped through marriage.

Anonymous said...

Great episode! I just finished watching it, and it was really quite interesting.

It seemed like an "older" episode, kind of traditional and nice.

Jana, is absoluely beautiful. Her hair was super nice. Joseph is so adorable! His laugh is really sweet. Also, Jennifer's first interview with Michelle was really nice. I am a bit concerned with Jennifer's speech. She didn't sound very fluent, and Michelle had to talk to her like she was much younger.

I don't think the older girls really enjoyed the predator and prey, as they were only watching on. But I did think EVERYONE likes the hike.

Can't wait for next weeks episode! Everyone looked like they were having such a fun time in the commercial. Looks very exciting!

Sarah said...

"Older girls doing the parenting of the younger kids, JB & Michelle in their own world, hiking around in long denim skirts, and JB pontificating about something or other."

Mmmm . . . not so much (except the denim skirts). Hey, pioneer women did it. I think it's great that their family encourages the concept of working together as a team rather than every man for himself. We didn't see the older kids parenting, just helping.

Anonymous said...

I am concerned about Josie. I know that she is still severely under-weight, and that may be skewing how she looks, but does anyone else see indications of Down's syndrome? Dear God, I hope not.

Anonymous said...

Well didn't really need to see the car sickness once again. Really Jim Bob did we need to hear about the pumping station? I guess they really do think about that on a daily basis. The best part of the show was seeing Jim sitting on the ground on the trip up the mountain.

hannah said...

I was only half watching the show.

Why didnt they stop when Johannah got sick and clean her up. Poor Kid had to sit in it.

Does the bus they were driving have a bathroom?

Also, why not put on disopable art smocks or plastics bags if you are worried she getting sick. simple clean up :).

Can the duggars say no. I dont want you to flim that. Just Wondering.

I hope if Josie has do some theorpy etc. they dont flim it for tlc. poo girl.


I also think the older girls are a bit upset at young Josie behing flimmed. They just dont seem very happy or even annoyed by thier brothers questions.

babysteps said...

Cute episode. I'm glad most of them ate a bug. Jedidiah needs to work out more. He shouldn't have been that exhausted for an 11 year old. Poor Jim having to carry the boom up the mountain. LOL

Johannah and Jackson were cute as always during their interviews and it looks like Jennifer may give them some good competition soon.

Somebody buy those girls some decent sneakers! They should have known better then to wear sandals while climbing a mountain so I'm just going to assume they don't have sneakers.

kasay said...

Did anyone notice that Jim Bob and Michelle don't kiss so much anymore?

I think they are growing up. The scare of Josie's birth and medical issues are definitely haveing an affect on them, they are maturing.

Willow #1 said...

I thought it was cute that they gave Jennifer her own interview. I thought her speech was much better, and she seemed really happy to be doing that. Michelle seemed happier also than she has for awhile. I think Michelle did last week's interview and this week's interview at the same time.

I also have a couple of random thoughts -- From day one, I have noticed JB carrying around toddlers. That is a good point for him, I think. I also sometimes wonder if the reason Michelle does not pick up her children is because she may have a health problem, i.e., maybe she thinks it would be hard on her back or, heaven forbid, her uterus? Its just so obvious to me that she bends down and kisses them a little, but just will not pick them up or carry them or even cuddle them much (at least not on camera). Even Kelly Bates carried a child in the house from the car, when they arrived at the Duggar's house in the middle of the night. It was even a rather large child (not a younger toddler). That really stood out to me as we seldom see Michelle doing this.

It was nice to see the pictures they flashed of Josie. She looks better. I hope all is well with that little one.

Peace and love to all of us.

Anonymous said...

Jennifer is 2 years and eight months. For that age her speech is quite appropriate. I thought she was adorable. However, I am getting annoyed at the way Jackson never lets JoHanna talk! I think she is getting annoyed also.

I really enjoyed watching Jim Bob in this episode. I thought he seemed a lot more relaxed. Little Jason is turning into another Josiah/ Josh. He pontificates which is really funny for a 10 year old, or maybe not.

I enjoyed the show a lot more than I expected and it wasn't anything like predicted!

msrylee said...

Anonymous, I agree with your comments, although I am unsure if the older girls will escape their servitude and unpaid nanny duties when they marry. If they follow their dad's teachings, they will just serve and work for their husbands. Not much to look forward to, in terms of their freedom of choice.

I also wondered why JB didn't stop the bus and clean up his little blessing when she was car-sick, instead of making her wait until they arrived at their destination.

Mel said...

This was an average episode for me, for a few reasons.

I thought the show producers did a nice job of beginning and ending the show on the theme of working together as a family. Even though I disagree with the household division of labour and the domestic roles of the older girls, it's hard not to be inspired by the *idea* of family members working hard and succeeding as a family unit. That was well done, I think.

I wasn't so interested in all the bug-eating stuff. Obviously the older girls weren't going to eat a bug. After all, their house walls are painted with all kinds of motivational phrases about staying true to your values, resisting temptation, etc. So why on earth would they be pressured into something stupid like eating a millworm larvae?

I also saw that in one of the hospital shots of Michelle spending time with Josie, Michelle seemed to place some kind of white cloth on Josie's head, just as the camera was approaching. I wonder if, indeed, having baby girls' heads covered isn't about cute accessories, but something Gothard-related. Did anybody from this board ever confirm anything about head coverings on infant girls?

Last, I feel like I will scream if I hear Michelle say one more time about how women make the world beautiful... or add colour to the world, or whatever she says. Honestly, talk about framing the world as a 'man's world', where women are just kind of here to, you know, reproduce the species, but more importantly, to be the eye candy! Sheesh! I imagine that poor Michelle must have had to hold her tongue when the Duggars visited that Amish commmunity...to her, those women must have looked so plain and dull... maybe they could've had a spa day, and Michelle and the girls could explain how God wants them to have perms, wear makeup and make the world a more beautiful place!

Anonymous said...

Re the poster who mentioned Josie looked like she might have Down's Syndrome - well, I have to say I was thinking that myself, but wouldn't they know that by now? I'm sure there must be a definitive test for it. I hope it's not the case.

Re this episode - looks like the older girls do not want to participate anymore. I don't blame them. They all look so bored. It's hard to watch the faces they make. I think the middle kids, Joy Anna, etc. will have to be taking their places soon. Then of course we still have the little ones who keep growing in number to take their places when need be. Also, Jennifer definately needs some kind of speech therapy. She's adorable and I hope they get her the help she needs. Michelle sounded so loopy during the interview. That "guys are different than girls speech" was just plain stupid.

AmyKB said...

I liked JimBob's intro to the show while in the woods. It's nice that they are doing something 10 years later, so some kids are doing it again, but most are getting to experience something that "Round 1" got to do. I don't remember that shade of red on the van before... Jennifer trying to say "bug club" was interesting. I was surprised that NONE of the older girls participated in the camouflage game. I would've thought at least Jinger might have. 3 pounds 12 oz is baby Josie now, and it's her due date, so we're looking at a film date of around March 18th. The girls should have worn something besides flip-flops, and I think they knew this. I also thought they should have carried some water bottles with them, if it was rough terrain and a two-hour hike! Overall, I thought that this episode was one of the most boring ones ever.

Anonymous said...

Ok, why the heck did the older girls hike the mountain in FLIP-FLOPS?? Do they not own even used sneakers? Oh yeah, and denim skirts too. It seems to me that they are participating in all these "fun" group activities grudgingly, not even bothering to find the right clothes for an outdoor trip. Jim Bob seems so awkward, not knowing how to handle his pack of "so over it" teenage girls. Not that my dad did much better, LOL...

Anonymous said...

Dear Producer Sean,

We get it. They have a lot of kids.

What else do you have?

joyruns said...

Mel said...
I also saw that in one of the hospital shots of Michelle spending time with Josie, Michelle seemed to place some kind of white cloth on Josie's head, just as the camera was approaching. I wonder if, indeed, having baby girls' heads covered isn't about cute accessories, but something Gothard-related. Did anybody from this board ever confirm anything about head coverings on infant girls?

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She was bathing her. That is how you bathe a baby in the NICU. You cover all exposed areas with a warm rag while you wipe off the baby.

Ms. B said...

I had to laugh after watching the show and then reading all the posts on here. Looks like everyone's
"predictions" (that's the correct spelling!) about this episode were wrong! I loved this episode! It was very, "take a look at a day in the life" type of thing which is what I love.

And in response to them not just playing out in the yard, well, geez isn't it normal for parents to want to break up the monotony a bit and take the kids on a trip every now and then? It probably doesn't cost much to do, it's nearby, and half of the kids had been before! yet another example of good parenting!

Ms. B said...

In response to the "unpaid nannies" theme out there, they ARE paid. It says it in their book, that the kids get an allowance, although small, for doing chores and housework. Now I am not claiming that they get paid a "wage" like $20 a hour or something like that. I remember reading it was a very meager allowance actually. However, the children do receive an allowance (at least that what the book says) and aside from that, they are older family members in a large family, it is only natural that they contribute a lot to help out.
I think this family would be WAY weirder if all the older children just sat around not helping out with anything, wouldn't that be crazy?? It just makes sense that they all help out, the girls seeming to drift mostly to the cooking and cleaning while the boys drift towards fixing things and yardwork. Either way, the "older kids" certainly put in their fair share of work for this family, and the younger ones will probably be doing the same thing ten years from now, especially with all the grandkids that are sure to pop up! (out? lol)

Anonymous said...

It's not normal to expect your old teenagers and young adults to want to come and do playtime and outings with their toddler siblings, and act like it is fun. I was glad that the older girls didn't participate and acted like the camoflage was dumb. It was dumb for girls their age, and they have been forced to do a lot of stupid things (ride on the baby choochoo train, pet the llamas, slide down the slip 'n slide, etc) so I was glad they just didn't.

I don't know any teenagers who want to spend 24/7 with their families, and go everywhere en masse. Kids need to be with others their own age, and it is just weird how the Duggars take these field trips which are so developmentally inappropriate for half the family. Of course, we know that all those older kids are along as parents to the little ones, but that is another point.

Anon 3:14 said...

Flip Flops and hiking.

Nice.

Safety issues reveal themselves again.

All in all, yet another booooooring episode.

Where's the excitement? You know, where's yet another conception announcement? Another "loving-up-on-the-cervix birth class"? Another product placement for My Brest Friend" ? Or at least a child's legs hanging out from underneath the tent Michelle wears to feed babies?

Miss said...

Two things that I noticed. Johanna was wearing boots for a hike and the van had a wheelchair lift in the back.

CappuccinoLife said...

Although flip flops are a poor choice for hiking, one of the girls mentioned that her sisters *chose* that footwear and she wasn't sure how well they'd do--she'd chosen sneakers.

They're teens. They weren't "into it". They had sore feet in the morning. So what? The younger kids had shoes. The older ones made their choice and had to live with it.

Hiking in skirts, no biggie. Done that all my life. Good heavy fabric, and loose enough, and there is no problem at all.

I thought it interesting that the older girls expressed very freely their differences of opinion with their dad, their growing up and developing different interests and tastes from their childhood when they were "daddy's little tomboys".

babysteps said...

I noticed when they had Josie held upright that she has a dimple in her cheek. Jackson won't be the only one now with a cute dimple.

Jason: "People who eat bugs..they have problems." I agree. LOL

shawna said...

Those poor kids have such terrible motion sickness. They all need those motion sickness bracelets that Michelle wears.

Those girls seem annoyed all the time. (I do not blame them). Jill is the only one that seems to take on Michelle 'sweet' mannerisms. The rest don't really hide their feelings.

Anonymous said...

I was reading where someone would just once like to see the older girls do an age appropriate activity. I did see such an activity. Does anyone remember the episode where Michelle and the older girls went to get manicures to celebrate a birthday?

Iliketheduggars said...

"Those girls seem annoyed all the time. (I do not blame them). Jill is the only one that seems to take on Michelle 'sweet' mannerisms. The rest don't really hide their feelings."

Good. We don't want them to be little robots, and we certainly don't want them exposed to the kind of parenting tactics that produce little robots.


My teens usually want to accompany us to "little kid" outings partly to see the joy on the face of the littler ones... but they don't go every time. I hope the girls have the option of opting out of the field trips if they are not interested. Seems like that would disrupt the whole buddy system, though, wouldn't it? Hope that's not the case...

Anonymous said...

@Celestie: LOVE your comment. Finally a creative tongue in cheek, accurate description of the usual Duggar doldrum, uh, I mean episode.

babysteps said...

What is an age appropriate activity for the girls? The mall? No, they don't focus on material things. (well not too much). A Christian concert? Maybe. A PG family/Christian movie? Maybe. A bar? No way! They did the father/daughter trip with Jim Bob. They went down to Florida on their own before Josh's wedding. Maybe they can do that again and stay a nice hotel and hit the beaches in their modest swimwear.

Celestie said...

RE age appropriate field trips.
My girls are in their mid 20s, and yes I also have two little boys. Remembering back a few years, they enjoyed going to the opera, to classical concerts, to real sporting events, (not broomball). One of them liked Rock concerts, the other did not. One enjoyed the ballet and musical theater, the other did not. They also enjoyed hiking and camping with each other and their friends. They really loved Road Trips. Weekend trips without kids or parents. At 19 or 20, they are able to stay with friends, or check into a hotel. And of course they liked shopping, and still do.
One was on her college soccer team, the other in theater, there was traveling in both. They also went away to different Universities, so that was a 4 year field trip. Both went overseas, one to teach English, one to further education. The world holds endless possibilities.
As far as I know, neither of them carried toddlers up a hill, while wearing tight skirts and flip flops.

Anonymous said...

The section of highway where they started getting car sick is only a couple miles from the park, which is why Jim Bob didn't stop at the time it happened.

I think it is wonderful that Jim Bob wanted to go to a state park instead of keeping the kids at home. Urban landscape should never be considered a substitute for time spent in a natural area.

The pumping station comment creeped me out when he said it, but I definitely chuckled when I saw TLC included it in the episode!

Anonymous said...

Josie and Down's Syndrome - Down's isn't a result of prematurity - it's a chromosome disorder. So, if Josie does have Down's, it's a completely separate issue from her being premature. They would already be able to tell if she has it. This doesn't mean, of course, that she DOESN'T have it, so those who suspect so might be right. Just wanted to clarify that they would know one way or the other by now and it has nothing to do with prematurity.

Anonymous said...

Anyone else notice that Jim Bob and Michelle never seem to carry the younger kids in the ergo? I have the ergo carrier myself and I love it, but carrying a baby or toddler in it gets really heavy. I felt bad for Jill having to carry a baby on her back for the hike. Maybe if Jim Bob strapped on the ergo for the hike, it would help him loose some of his extra weight! While I'm not a Duggar fan for many reason, I do feel bad for the kids since I feel like they are exploited. It also bother me that Michelle never holds any of the kids while Jim Bob does actually hold a younger one occasionally.

Anonymous said...

Another safety concern, of course... isn't the van they drive one of those 15 passenger vans like the Gosselins had? By my calculations, they had 17 of their children there (no Josh or Josie), plus JB and at least one camera man filming. Probably also a sound man, etc. This means there were quite a few people not buckled in. Surprisingly, we saw Johannah in a seat, but I'm assuming someone was holding Jordyn and Jennifer. Since JB was sitting down, that still leaves a kid or two, and if the production crew was sitting down, that's even more displaced kids. I know in their tour bus they don't buckle in, and they don't have to - it's like an RV. But in this van, aren't they supposed to?

Anonymous said...

iliketheduggars said:
I hope the girls have the option of opting out of the field trips if they are not interested. Seems like that would disrupt the whole buddy system, though, wouldn't it? Hope that's not the case...
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See, that's exactly what I wonder about too. I feel that the girls have been raised in such a way that they probably feel it would be wrong of them not to want to go along and help out, because if they didn't, then what happens to the buddy system? JimBob would probably explain that if they don't help, all that would fall on Mama and that wouldn't be right. They would feel as if they were being selfish to want to do their own thing instead of devoting their attention to taking care of their siblings.

I think that's not fair to any child. Yes, we want to have a strong family unit and to help out in times of need or in general. But those older girls have been raised up to do all the heavy lifting around that household, and to do the jobs that really should fall onto JimBob and Michelle's shoulders.

JB and M have foisted off their responsibility onto the older girls' shoulders. The older boys not so much. It's very disturbing to see that 20-year old young women seemingly have no life of their own. Done with high school, no apparent continuing education in the offing, not even a part-time job at some local business (heck, even pick a business owned by another ATI member if you must), so their whole life centers around cleaning house, making meals, doing laundry, tending children, and escorting their younger siblings on field trips.

Seriously, it gives me the heebie jeebies to think how stifled these girls are, all because JB and M are selfishly focused on their own selfish and Earthly glory.

Anonymous said...

Was it me or did it seem like the footage of Josie was more home film than film crew?

It made me wonder if the hospital finally got their fill?

babysteps said...

Joseph carried Jordyn on his back for a lot of the hike. I saw Josiah with the carrier on his back but it was empty and Jim Bob was carrying Jordyn. I think Jill just carried Jennifer a little when the trail got rough and then put her back down.

TLC has only three more episodes listed. The metal making one next week, Josie goes home, and then a Josie set back episode. Then I guess they take a break. I think they need one to just focus on Josie.

SuzanneDeAZ said...

I do not thing that is a 15 passenger van. As I recall JB bought two small busses for a very low price and put them together to make one bus. They have had buses to transport there children even before they were on TLC. I know this bus looks new but perhaps they had it freshly painted. Also someone said it had a chair lift. If that is so it certainly is not a 15 passenger van.

. said...

Their van is not a 15 passenger van. It was a small bus. Not to be confused with their tour bus.

babysteps said...

That red bus is new. The first time I noticed it was the episode when Mackynzie was born. The old white van/bus was seen at the car lot. That was old and they probably decided to upgrade. The Duggars also donated another white van to a charity. I wonder where they parked the big bus in Little Rock. It's not at the rental house or at home. They probably couldn't park it in the city cause it's so big.

Jen said...

Surprisingly, we saw Johannah in a seat, but I'm assuming someone was holding Jordyn and Jennifer.

Nope the footage showed them buckled in.

Jordyn was in a rear facing car seat.

Anonymous said...

Being seen in public places with their parents is generally not something most teens want. This isn't abnormal behaviour.
It's just a fairly natural phase in growing up and establishing your own identity.
I get the feeling that with the exception of Jill, the older Duggar girls are uncomfortable and bored on these endless family outings now.
The Duggars are a brand.
And each brand member is expected to do his or her part.
Some are comfortable being on camera. So they get the lion's share of on-air time during the show.
Others seem painfully shy, awkward and unable to string together a coherent sentence.
The producers would have spotted this early and weeded the shy awkward Duggar kids out. They'll get as little air time as possible.
The generic pack of younger Duggar boys are still just that to me. Generic..
They're increasingly wild and out of control.. but that's not surprising.
There are just too many of them for the Duggar 'buddy' system to be effective.
I don't imagine there's much home schooling going on since the preemie birth of Josie either.
There weeks are filled with trips for the show.. The show has become their lives. The show drives their lives and activities.
Which is kind of ironic when you think about it.
In the beginning it was the other way around.

CappuccinoLife said...

Yep. Saw one older boy and Jim Bob carrying the baby.

I don't think any of the girls had "a baby strapped to her back" all the way up the mountain. Possibly not even up part of it, as the only ones I saw carrying a baby were the guys.

Jana fan said...

It looked like Jordyn was still in an infant seat, facing backwards. That must have been really, really uncomfortable, since at 15 months or however old she is now, she could be in a regular carseat facing forward, which a, is more comfortable, since it isn't leaning back, and b, helps kids prone to motion sickness (which this whole family is) not throw up as easily, since being backwards promotes feeling ill.

Yes, why do the girls have to strap on a little kid to carry always? And in flip flops and long skirts, no less! Can you imagine how easily she could have taken a tumble, resulting in injury to both girl and toddler?

Age appropriate activities for the girls. Let's see:

-Going to college, either living on campus or at home
-Getting together with friends
-Going to movies with friends
-Going out to eat with friends
-Going to the library to study a topic of personal interest or for class research
-Doing an activity of personal choice, ie art, debate, clubs,
-Doing a sport of interest, on a team or individually
-Working at a job, earning money of their own (not the two cents an hour paid by Cheapo Jim Bob)

There are lots and lots of things 20 year olds can do, aside from going on dumb field trips aimed at the pre-school set.

msrylee said...

Thanks for explaining where the blessing(s) got motion-sick. If it was that close to their destination, it makes sense to wait a few minutes to clean up.

I think the blessings should wear Sea-Bands(as they are known in Canada, not sure about the U.S.A) around their wrists as so many of them are prone to motion-sickness. M said she uses them and it is probably a very good idea for the rest of them.

Nicole said...

A couple of comments about the girls going on field trips. First, the family's priority has always been that they do things together as a family, that is their habit and always has been. So it might not even occur to them to say no thanks when their parents announce a family outing. They also might actually enjoy outings with their family, since they have been raised to. I hope that when my children are older teens they aren't too good to go on family outings with their younger siblings.

Also, there may be times the family does things *not filmed by TLC* and the girls may not be participating in those things. But the filmed outings are likely just expected that everyone will be there.

Regarding the girls workload, I was reading on the TLC website Michelle's recent interviews, and she commented several times that all the kids' workloads have been heavier since Josie has been born because Michelle hasn't been there to do her customary jobs of being in charge and taking care of the household jobs, and picking up the kids' slack on their chores.

I know most believe the girls do too much work, and I don't live there so I don't know if the girls are actually overworked or not. But being the mother of a large family myself, I have a different perspective. It just isn't possible or even desirable (for the children's sake) for Michelle to do all the dishes and all the laundry for 21 people all the time. Yes, the older siblings of a large family have more chores than a smaller family. I personally don't see that as a bad thing. When everyone does just one job and the work is spread out, no one is overworked and things get done. I am in charge, I work my tail off all day, I pick up my kids slack, I do all the heavy lifting I can, but it is simply necessary that one child helps with doing most of the dishes, one child helps with most of the laundry, one child helps keep the bathrooms clean, one child helps keep the floors picked up, etc. Even with these jobs, my children still spend only about 1 to 2 hours total a day on their jobs. They have hours and hours of free time for recreation and interests. I still have no free time for myself unless I want to carve it out of late night or early morning and lose some of my sleep. So my point is that I'm not convinced that it's slave labor over there with all kinds of free time for Michelle.

I do have my children help with their younger siblings, but I make sure they don't feel too much responsibility in that area (I do give them SOME, I think it is a good thing), and they are always free to do things with friends and outside the house. I don't know if the Duggar girls are given this freedom or not. I hope they are and I would like to give JB and M the benefit of the doubt on this one. But I do see how that is a concern with people. And I do wish the older kids would go to college, but I understand that college isn't for everyone. The kids, even the older ones, look happy and I hope they are. They are beautiful, sweet, talented girls.

Nicole said...

I want to amend my previous post to add that I am not complaining about my lack of free time, I know that is just the life a mom, no matter how many children a mom has. And some moms have other jobs as well, taking even more of their time.

I said all that to say, that I think Michelle has to be the hardest worked person in the Duggar household, like the mom in any family is, regardless of the fact that we see her older girls regularly doing some big chores.

Anonymous said...

I notice that the producers made a point to show the kids preparing lettuce and tomatoes, and then made a point to show someone uncovering a fruit platter at lunch time. Not a processed item in sight. I guess they do read these posts!

Anonymous said...

I come from a fairly large family - seven other brothers and sisters besides me. At the time I was growing up, 8 was considered quite a large family by most standards, and I think I still consider it so.

I grew up being involved in family activities, having regular chores to help around the house, including cooking and cleaning, yet I still look at the Duggar girls and strongly feel they are overworked.

First and foremost, while older siblings can and should keep an eye on their younger siblings from time to time, it should not be their full time job, including nights and week-ends.

Second, I do not agree that only the girls should do the labor around the house, such as cooking, cleaning and child rearing. The Duggars most definitely split the work so that the girls have the lions share, and the boys do, well, I don't really know what. Maybe they take out the trash, put their own clothes away, and now I've run out of ideas. The Duggars don't have livestock that needs tending, they don't have a garden of fruits or vegetables that need tending, they don't have dogs that need exercising and feeding, and I just don't see the boys involved in any regular sort of chores to the same level as the girls. Uneven and unfair.

Third, by age 20, your adult children ought to be leading their own lives, even if they are still living at home. That should include either a) a full time job or b) continuing their education full time or c) a combination of the two. Having your 19 and 20-year old daughters doing neither of these things and apparently still expected to devote pretty much full time to household chores and child rearing is not okay with me. Let these birds spread their wings and do a little flying.

Fourth, it is not the responsibility of the older children to raise the younger ones. But that's what is going on in the Duggar household. Michelle had more than she can physically tend to. The reason she can keep so "sweet" is because the stresses and burdens of everyday childcare and household maintenance are off her shoulders and on the shoulders of her older daughters. Unfair, and shirking in her responsibilities.

Having your children "help out" around the house is quite different from having your older daughters do the bulk of the household chores (clean the house, do the laundry, buy the groceries, cook the meals, clean up after the meals, be responsible for 2 or 3 buddies, have those buddies sleep in the same bedroom with you at night, tend to them when they are sick, etc.) That's not helping out, that's Michelle and JB getting free housecleaning and child care 24/7.

So much so, that they felt perfectly comfortable skipping off to a conference in Wisconsin earlier this month, leaving their preemie in NICU and the rest of the children in the care of guess who -- the older girls.

That is not good parenting in my book. That's two self-centered, ego-driven people who enjoy all the attention and praise for being parents of a large brood while passing off the responsibility of actually being there and doing the grunt work involved. I got nothing for the Duggar parents, cept disgust.

Anonymous said...

I want to add: when I was growing up and one of us kids got sick, my mom pretty much dropped everything and took care of us. That's when she would rely on older siblings to pick up the slack, such as put together a simple dinner meal, etc. My youngest sister has a slight handicap and when she was younger was susceptible to bronchial infections. She was once briefly hospitalized overnight. Let me tell you, my mom and dad stayed down there til kicked out at night, and returned first thing next morning. They would never have considered leaving town, much less the state, when one of their children was sick and in the hospital.

Gah - these two make me sick. I need to stop even reading about them, they are disgusting people.

Anonymous said...

Besides, these little feild trips when do the old girls ever get out of the house?? Big deal they are allowed to go food shopping (with JB of course).. JB is a control freak ex: He made the girls spend the night at Josh's house when they went back to the big house for supplies.. Jana is 20 yrs old... Yes, we know that the camera only films at certain times.. I am so glad that when they went to NYC and DC the girls got to see for themselves how the real wold is and that JB is not the KING and, he is incompentant in the real world...

Celestie said...

Remember people, ma & pa chose to have 19 kids and counting, so maybe they should be the ones responsible for them. Members of families help each other, but that is different than full time care.

Regarding girls hiking with kids attatched. Look again. One had a girl on back holding onto older girls neck. One was carrying toddler tucked like a football on way to touch down, liitle legs stuck out behind. One had kid in some kind of carrier.

For the poster who thinks the girls
iare happy on those kiddy trips, please look at their faces.

Anonymous said...

No one can possibly love, nurture and responsibly raise 19 children. The Duggars are evidence of this sick experiment gone very, very wrong.

Anonymous said...

I don't see why Michelle didn't just turn down the award at such a time..she'd already been awarded mother of the yr once before anyway.

That said,I'm not a huge fan of the Duggar ways,but I imagine they,(inc. the older girls) do have a life off-camera,and that the public is not privy to all the goings-on.

Also, we forget that the older kids DO have a job..TLC! SO if we the public forget that,then it seems they are doing a pretty good job of making it appear otherwise.If the girls are bored,then maybe it's being bored with doing the show and the field trips and such they get sent on,and not with normal,everyday life.

I do think it was rude of the D's to send back a package without first mentioning they do not want to accept gifts.I imagine they have been advised not to accept anything from the general public,but it was the way they went about it,with the sender having wasted time effort and money into the mailing and postage that makes it rude send it back,imo,at least not without fair warning,which none was given.jmo.

Jen said...

"It looked like Jordyn was still in an infant seat, facing backwards. That must have been really, really uncomfortable, since at 15 months or however old she is now, she could be in a regular carseat facing forward, which a, is more comfortable, since it isn't leaning back, and b, helps kids prone to motion sickness (which this whole family is) not throw up as easily, since being backwards promotes feeling ill."

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It is now recommended by the American Pediatric that babies/children stay in a rear facing seat until at least two years of age.

So it sounds like the Duggars were on the safe side having Jordyn still rear facing.

Anonymous said...

This a great blog about the Duggars.. Thank you Sharla :)

At times i really believe that TLC and the Duggars have professional PR people respond to some of these postings...

babysteps said...

Anonymous said...

I notice that the producers made a point to show the kids preparing lettuce and tomatoes, and then made a point to show someone uncovering a fruit platter at lunch time. Not a processed item in sight. I guess they do read these posts!

4/29/2010 10:59 AM

Maybe but I've been watching the Duggars for years and they almost always have fruits and veggies with their meals except when they eat out.

jonandkatewho? said...

Anonymous said...

I come from a fairly large family - seven other brothers and sisters besides me. At the time I was growing up, 8 was considered quite a large family by most standards, and I think I still consider it so.

I grew up being involved in family activities, having regular chores to help around the house, including cooking and cleaning, yet I still look at the Duggar girls and strongly feel they are overworked.

First and foremost, while older siblings can and should keep an eye on their younger siblings from time to time, it should not be their full time job, including nights and week-ends.....snipped

Fourth, it is not the responsibility of the older children to raise the younger ones. But that's what is going on in the Duggar household. Michelle had more than she can physically tend to. The reason she can keep so "sweet" is because the stresses and burdens of everyday childcare and household maintenance are off her shoulders and on the shoulders of her older daughters. Unfair, and shirking in her responsibilities.

Having your children "help out" around the house is quite different from having your older daughters do the bulk of the household chores (clean the house, do the laundry, buy the groceries, cook the meals, clean up after the meals, be responsible for 2 or 3 buddies, have those buddies sleep in the same bedroom with you at night, tend to them when they are sick, etc.) That's not helping out, that's Michelle and JB getting free housecleaning and child care 24/7.

So much so, that they felt perfectly comfortable skipping off to a conference in Wisconsin earlier this month, leaving their preemie in NICU and the rest of the children in the care of guess who -- the older girls.

That is not good parenting in my book. That's two self-centered, ego-driven people who enjoy all the attention and praise for being parents of a large brood while passing off the responsibility of actually being there and doing the grunt work involved. I got nothing for the Duggar parents, cept disgust.

4/29/2010 4:16 PM

This post is exactly what I have felt about the Duggar family for a long time now, but I was never able to state it this well or this strongly.

I will now. I think the Duggar parents are dead wrong to expect what they do from these children. They are being exploited by their parents, and it needs to stop. I hope these kids, especially those overworked older girls, are able to break free one day. I won't concern myself too much with whether or not they ever forgive the parents. I really don't care. The only conclusions I can come to are that the Duggar parents are either very selfish, very stupid, or both. What they are doing is beyond unfair. With those children being raised to never question what their parents ask of them, of course they can't freely express that they would rather not do something the parents want them to do! They are like slaves, those older girls.

It's all kind of sick, if you think about it.

Anonymous, thank you for posting. Your post is so clear and strong about the whole Duggar lifestyle that I was finally able to realize how very much I dislike these people, and why.

Kelly Renee said...

I do not believe the older girls are as overworked as some believe. We only see part of their life and that does seem to show them working a lot but in every episode only a few minutes shows them working, the rest of the episode shows them in the house with the other children, where else should they be? Also it is true they oftentimes appear bored during certain outings with the younger children, but again I do not feel that TLC is showing us their real lives and it is quite possible TLC wants them to participate in whatever outing they are filming for that week.

We don’t see what really happens on a day to day basis in that family, it is impossible. If you were to look at my life you would probably get the idea that all I do is work too. I get up at 5:30am and have to be at work at 6:45am and get off at 3:15pm. I then come home and immediately start picking up around the house, doing dishes, doing laundry, making the bed, etc, then I cook dinner and clean up after that and there are only two of us in this family!! But nobody sees the time I spend on the computer surfing, laying by the pool reading, laying in bed watching tv, or any of the other things I do. I just don’t believe we get an accurate account of what goes on daily in that family. We only get snippets here and there.
I feel that they didn’t stop to clean up the little girl who got sick because that is a windy country road and to pull a bus over to the side on such a road is more of a danger to the entire busload then to let a child wait. Besides that, she appeared to be hitting that cup pretty good!

And sure they show them preparing processed foods but from the looks of those children I doubt that is there main diet. That is only what the cameras catch. The way those girls were coring those heads of lettuce tells me this wasn’t their first time doing it.

Celestie said...

I do not believe the older girls are as overworked as some believe. We only see part of their life and that does seem to show them working a lot but in every episode only a few minutes shows them working,

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It takes a lot of work to keep a large house clean, sheets and towels changed, to cook 3 meals a day for a large crew, to manage the laundry, washing, drying, pressing. Then there is supervise play for many little kids, and to keep them clean, put them to bed, help them if they are scared or sick during the night. Someone has to keep those fricken bows, laundered, pressed and pasted to their noggins.. Then, there is schooling, transporting to doctor/dentist, taking care of bumps and bruises. The older girls have to spend a lot of time on their hair, as it must be up to JB's specifications.

We saw before Josie's birth, Ma took care of the schooling, now she is back on the money making trail. The older boys don't seem to do anything, the little boys put their pjs in the laundry basket every 3 days. The rest falls on the heads. or in the laps of 4 older girls. I don't think with all of the above chores, there is much time for lounging by the pool if they had one.
Has it ever occurred to anyone that they don't show them enjoying their leisure, as they don't really have any to film? Just a though.

Anonymous said...

It is true that we only see a part of their lives and what they eat. But as was said that is what the camera catches. And why is that so? Why don't they show other things.

The reason people think the girls work too much is because they simply do. They are "mothers" to their buddies. If you ever read what being a buddy entails that would keep you pretty busy during the day. I know what it is like to take care of small children and it does take up a lot of time.

When they aren't busy they are shown with the rest of the children, where else should they be? Well let's see, college, working outside of the home, hanging with friends, living in their own apartment. Those are a few things I can think of at the moment.

babysteps said...

Anonymous said...

No one can possibly love, nurture and responsibly raise 19 children. The Duggars are evidence of this sick experiment gone very, very wrong.

4/29/2010 5:29 PM
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The Duggar kids sure look happy, healthy, and well cared for to me. None of them are doing drugs or are in jail. None of the older girls are knocked up. They are not perfect but overall the kids seem much better off than a lot of kids from "normal" families that I know.

msrylee said...

I agree that the older blessings carry too much responsibility. Who is taking care of all the blessings, doing laundry, cooking meals, changing bedding, giving baths, grocery shopping, etc. while JB and M are on their paid appearances in other states? Who visits, holds, feeds and cuddles Josie when JB and M are away? IMO, these young women have entirely too much to do.

A poster asked what the older blessings should be doing. A person in their late teens probably would be furthering their education in college or university, spending time with their friends, shopping, etc. Just my opinion....

Anonymous said...

The Duggar kids sure look happy, healthy, and well cared for to me. None of them are doing drugs or are in jail. None of the older girls are knocked up. They are not perfect but overall the kids seem much better off than a lot of kids from "normal" families that I know.

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Well, I'd have to disagree on the "sure look happy" part because those older girls do not always look happy. Sometimes they look bored, tired, distant or worn down.

Second, there are many, many young people out in this world who are not living at home as young adults being forced to raise their siblings who are a) not pregnant, b) not taking drugs, and c) not in jail. In fact, the average 20-something is likely to be either working a full time job and learning a skill; or going to college to get a higher education while working part time. Those that are working pay taxes. They rent apartments with friends. They may drink alcohol, but if they are over 21, that's legal. They may even occasionally drink too much and get drunk. But most of them will outgrow this stage and behave more responsibly. Many of them are focused on their career goals.

There is more than two choices: The Duggar way or straight to drunken, drug-addled prisoner.

Most of the country is in that huge area in between these two extremes. Having fun, not being required to work as unpaid housekeeper and nanny for our parents who had more children than they could raise on their own. Being allowed to become an adult. Living out what we wish for our own lives, not what our parents need us to do for them because they over-procreated.

WhenWudTheyHaveTime?? said...

The Duggar kids sure look happy, healthy, and well cared for to me. None of them are doing drugs or are in jail. None of the older girls are knocked up. They are not perfect but overall the kids seem much better off than a lot of kids from "normal" families that I know.

5/01/2010 12:40 AM
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No BabySteps, and why would they ever think to be "knocked up?
" After all, they already have the round the clock care of infants for the past several years---their own mother's infants. Who needs one's own when you can do that??
And besides, when are they EVER ALONE (either truly alone, or with a "Beau") they are always "accompanied" by J.B. the Control Freak , or some other family member. So again I say that I think those girl's chances for even getting married sometime in the next oh, ten years or so, is remote, let alone getting "knocked up!"

adam4ever said...

I wonder what per cent of their lives is filmed by TLC. Is it so many weeks per year or do they show up every month for a few days? Does anyone know?

Anonymous said...

The poor older girls looked bored to tears. They were obviously just brought along to feed and tend to the others and change diapers. Why can't they wear jeans for hiking? And if Daddy J-B runs their lives, why in the world did he not make them wear shoes? Flip-flops for hiking? I can't imagine the blisters they must have gotten. Do they not have the sense to think of this themselves? I would so love to see any episode on the four girls wearing jeans, going to hang out with friends, signing up for college and dancing and laughing and having fun! And singing something other than hymns. When will they escaape this 17th century lifestyle? I wonder if they know that once they have reached 18, they are free to leave and not do everything Daddy tells them to do.

Anonymous said...

Don't do bugs,bugs R' bad..

Anonymous said...

At birth, kids with DS are usually of average size, but they tend to grow at a slower rate and remain smaller than their peers. For infants, low muscle tone may contribute to sucking and feeding problems, At birth, kids with DS are usually of average size, but they tend to grow at a slower rate and remain smaller than their peers. For infants, low muscle tone may contribute to sucking and feeding problems, as well as constipation and other digestive issues. Toddlers and older kids may have delays in speech and self-care skills like feeding, dressing, and toilet teaching. Toddlers and older kids may have delays in speech and self-care skills like feeding, dressing, and toilet teaching. (The previous statement copied from medical journal, sounds like Josie, and definitely her appearance is DS).

Nicole said...

" And if Daddy J-B runs their lives, why in the world did he not make them wear shoes?"


Perhaps because he doesn't run their lives? Is it not a possibilitly that these girls are living their lives the way they WANT to? Just because WE would never do those things doesn't mean someone else wouldn't want to.