Tuesday, September 14, Duggars Do Dinner

The Duggars are having a dinner party! Watch as the Duggars invite two other large families over for a fun, and crowded, evening. And get an update on the three youngest Duggars - Jordyn, Josie, and first GrandDuggar, Mackynzie.

30 minutes

152 comments:

Anonymous said...

Mmmm! TaterTot Casserole and Butterfingered Ice Cream Sandwiches drenched in Hershey's chocolate sauce.

Heart attack on a plate.

Can we spell 'cholesterol'? How about 'coronary artery disease'?

(Martha Stewart, your day job is safe with the Duggars throwing a dinner party.)

Jess said...

Did anyone else see Michelle say "We have an announcement, someone is expecting?" in the preview?

I wonder who it is, Michelle? Anna?

Anonymous said...

I really, really hope it is Anna that is pregnant and NOT Michelle! But I won't be surprised ether way.

bonehead said...

Well, I would not be surprised if it's Michelle. They have 10 boys and 9 girls. They will go through hell or high water to have that 10th girl to make it even, as well as that baby being number 20. Remember the 25th wedding show and Michelle was explaining about why the kids first names were all J's. She said that after naming the first 3 with J names, she felt that the 4th kid would be left out, if their name was different. She is taking the same idea with how many they will have. You know 10 boys, 10 girls. So if the next one is not a girl then she will keep getting pregnant, till it evens out. Just a thought.

Anonymous said...

I doubt if Anna or Michelle was pregnant, they would announce on the show. They would probably do a Today show interview if it was one of them. Someone at TWOP said that the oldest Bates daughter got married earlier this year and that it may be her.

Anonymous said...

Well, I would not be surprised if it's Michelle. They have 10 boys and 9 girls. They will go through hell or high water to have that 10th girl to make it even, as well as that baby being number 20. Remember the 25th wedding show and "Michelle was explaining about why the kids first names were all J's. She said that after naming the first 3 with J names, she felt that the 4th kid would be left out, if their name was different. She is taking the same idea with how many they will have. You know 10 boys, 10 girls. So if the next one is not a girl then she will keep getting pregnant, till it evens out. Just a thought."

I totally agree with this comment, Bonehead. I think she has an OCD thing going on where she just has to have it even. For one thing, she knows that 10/10 (and an even 20)would really sell well on TLC.
She has been lucky with a run of girls to even up the score. (she did say on one episode after Jennifer, "yay, the girls are catching up" and "we just love the bows and ruffles")

She forgets that she is playing with real little lives, not collectible dolls. It makes me sick.

Stop the Insanity! said...

Just what Josie needs! An infestation of germs from other families! (or maybe she is being quarantined upstairs with Jill, while Michelle parties the night away)

That line was a teaser to get people to watch the show. Viewership is WAAAAAY down. I don't think Michelle is pregnant (yet), although she sure looks it in recent photos. But they are trying to drag in as many people as possible to watch the show.

I'll just read here for the recap. I am boycotting the show, just as I did to two other TLC shows when it started to get ugly. There is no need to support the insanity of the R's, the G's or the Duggars.

Anonymous said...

I doubt TaterTotCasserole is on the menu...the Duggars have moved on to Anna's famous Chicken-etti ! Equally non-nutritious...yum!

Reality TV Junkie said...

Yes! I love epsiodes when they are having good times as a family, no travelling! I'm really interested in hearing more about Mackynzie. I love seeing Josh and Anna, I don't know why people cringe when they see them. I find their little family really interesting. I didn't hear Michelle say anything about anyone expecting. But I hope it's Anna, with a boy.

Anonymous said...

"Heart attack on a plate"

Yes... I agree..the Duggars should have a dietician (did I spell that right?) come to them and tell them that delicious food is not limited to "Tatertot Casserole" and food could be healthy AND delicious. It is really a surprise that none of them are overweight or suffering from diet-related issues.

I also wonder, who will be "cooking" (or opening cans - they eat a lot of canned foods)? Hopefully Jill doesn't have to prepare food for the whole family like she did last.

Does anyone know if we will see the Bates family in episode???

Anonymous said...

"Heart attack on a plate"

Yes... I agree..the Duggars should have a dietician (did I spell that right?) come to them and tell them that delicious food is not limited to "Tatertot Casserole" and food could be healthy AND delicious. It is really a surprise that none of them are overweight or suffering from diet-related issues.

I also wonder, who will be "cooking" (or opening cans - they eat a lot of canned foods)? Hopefully Jill doesn't have to prepare food for the whole family like she did last.

Does anyone know if we will see the Bates family in episode???

Anonymous said...

If it's on an episode where they're having a party for other huge families, pretty much anyone could be expecting. Anna did look a bit unwell in the last epi to me, though.

Um, and, shamefully, I quite like tater tot casserole, and especially ice cream sandwich cake. Sorry.

Snap! said...

I always thought they wanted 20 because it is an easy number to multiply. Jim Bob likes to say if each of his children have 'x' number of children- then he will have 'x' number of grandchildren. 20 is much easier to multiply than 18 or 19. After 20 they will probably stop. Have they ever talked about having more than 20?

Anonymous said...

Stop the Insanity said
Viewership is WAAAAAY down.
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Does anyone have actual viewing numbers? Or know where I should look to find that info? I'm curious to see how their viewership numbers have been over the seasons.

Anonymous said...

I don't think anyone is expecting a baby.....it just seems to obvious! My guess is that sentence is going to end with 'visitors' or something similar :)

bonehead said...

Snap: Michelle said in recent interview, that they would welcome more children, and of course it's up to God.

Anonymous said...

She is taking the same idea with how many they will have. You know 10 boys, 10 girls. So if the next one is not a girl then she will keep getting pregnant, till it evens out.



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That is way out there. Neither one of them has ever said anything that indicates they care about having equal numbers of each gender. And JimBob wanting 20 because it makes the math easy? Come on. Having a baby is much, much too hard to have them for silly reasons like that. Michelle and JimBob have their reasons for having all the kids they do, and they've explained them very well, ad nauseum actually. Ease of mental multiplication and equal numbers of boys vs. girls surely can't factor into this family's decision-making.

Concerning the Duggars' diet - they must eat enough healthy foods to offset the rich foods they like to eat for their main dishes, apparently, or they would surely have at least some children with weight issues. Josh didn't gain weight until he moved out, incidentally. And, btw, I've made the chicken-etti, with less cheese than it called for, and it was very good. Unhealthy for sure, but tasty.

Anonymous said...

"That is way out there. Neither one of them has ever said anything that indicates they care about having equal numbers of each gender. And JimBob wanting 20 because it makes the math easy? Come on. Having a baby is much, much too hard to have them for silly reasons like that. Michelle and JimBob have their reasons for having all the kids they do, and they've explained them very well, ad nauseum actually. Ease of mental multiplication and equal numbers of boys vs. girls surely can't factor into this family's decision-making."

Well they must be continuing to want kids for some SILLY reason because there is no SENSIBLE reason to want to have another child after you (and your baby) almost died having number 19.

Suzie said...

The the poster who asked, yes, the Bates are at this "dinner party."

I was the one at TWOP who mentioned Michaela Bates, BUT what I said was that she was spotted earlier this spring wearing a suspicious ring and COULD be married and pregnant by now (all depending on when they filmed this).

I also posted that the "expecting" bit is probably an incomplete sentence that ends with "...the Wilsons to come at any time!"

Although if Michelle is indeed "expecting," they certainly set up their damage control quite well on last week's episode.

It'll be nice to the more of the little girls; Sean reads TWOP and the last few episodes have been direct responses to what we said we wanted to see.

Also wondering where the Chick-fil-A tour footage went (it looks like that went the way of the Model T) and if they're going to show the Mother of the Year award. The damage control could set that up for a future episode as well, although I don't see either happening on the 21st either (in which Josie has ANOTHER doctor appt).

Enywho, I think Michaela Bates got hitched to a Staddon. No way Michelle is expecting any of her own girls to start courting anytime soon...

Anonymous said...

"Jordyn, Josie, and Mackenzie" - what happened to Jennifer?

She's pretty young to be ALREADY lost in the sea of faces.

Sad.

Reality TV Junkie said...

Well they must be continuing to want kids for some SILLY reason because there is no SENSIBLE reason to want to have another child after you (and your baby) almost died having number 19.
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They HAVE stated a sensible reason to have more children: They believe in God. They want to put God first, and in control. Having children is a natural function, and they don't want to defy nature. They have proven to me that they really do want to put others first, and take things as they come, not being unhappy and wanting to change everything. They have found their key to happiness: acceptance.

Have fun at your dinner party, Duggars!

Anonymous said...

You can believe in God and not have more children. After 19 children- I'm pretty sure Michelle and Jim Bob know what (or what not!) to do to have more children.

Anonymous said...

The Bates have about the same number and ages of children the Duggars do, and also use the same "buddy" system (although I see from their website that they call them "partners" instead), and have a neary identical lifestyle to the Duggars, as near as I can tell. If the Bates can let their oldest girl go without their family infrastructure imploding, why couldn't the Duggars? I think Michelle might be out to lunch on some things, but I've never been convinced that she or JimBob aren't allowing any of the girls to court yet because they want them at home so bad. I think Michelle would honestly be happy for any of her girls to get married to a good guy. I'm not convinced she's holding them ransom because they're needed as buddies at home.

Why on earth would they be constantly getting their family together with the Bates if they were opposed to matchmaking? I sure wouldn't be dangling the likes of hot stuff like Zach Bates in front of my attractive and eligible eldest daughter if I was trying to prevent any schemes of running off and getting married. I'd be keeping her as far away as as possibly could! I think the evidence we have to go on here can safely relegate this one to the list of Assumptions About the Duggars That Haven't Been Proven One Way or the Other Yet.

momma betchan said...

Maybe the announcement has something to do with somebody "courting"?

Anonymous said...

"I sure wouldn't be dangling the likes of hot stuff like Zach Bates in front of my attractive and eligible eldest daughter if I was trying to prevent any schemes of running..."
Hot stuff like Zach Bates? Oh dear!

Anonymous said...

I've always thought Zach Bates was a cutie. I agree that those parents have got to be trying to hook those two up with each other by so often getting the families together. Jana is gorgeous as well, and I'd say there's a high likelihood those two will be attracted to one another. If they don't want that to happen, then they better stop putting those kids around each other so often. I do remember Michelle saying on one episode that they realize that getting the kids together might create boy/girl feelings for each other, so I do think this is what Michelle and JimBob want to have happen.

Anonymous said...

Eww. Call me one who doesn't find those Bates boys at all cute. They look like uneducated rednecks to me, and when they open their mouths, they sound it too.

Jana can do better than that! Keep looking, girlfriend!

Anonymous said...

I just saw the commercial for this show again. Quite clearly, JB, holding a baby, asks everyone to gather 'round and says "I have an announcement to make. Someone is expecting." He doesn't say "Someone is expecteD..." and it doesn't sound like the sentence trails off to another part that's cut off. Anna and Smugger look surprised, so I doubt it's them.

Anonymous said...

"They HAVE stated a sensible reason to have more children: They believe in God. They want to put God first, and in control."

It's absolutely their business. That said, one could follow that same logic with "This train's about to run me over. No need to step out of the way - God will stop the train if he wants me to live." Riiiiiiiight. Their business, MY chuckle.

Anonymous said...

I'm really hoping that Michelle doesn't announce she is pregnant with baby #20. Although Josie is doing better, she is by no means out of the woods in terms of her health problems. She still faces years of possible developmental delays as a result of being a preemie. She can't simply just get lost in the shuffle like the younger girls and boys.

As far as criticism of the Duggar diet, I don't think they eat any better or worse than most American families, but those processed foods may catch up with the kids later. I believe the reason there are no weight problems now is because the kids spend so much time outside they burn off all those calories. However look what happened to Josh once he moved out, he put a ton of weight on.

In regards to a Bates/Duggar courtship, I don't condemn JB and Michelle for wanting one of their daughters to date a Bates boy. They seem like very hard working, nice young men. Nobody would want their daughter to be with some jerk, so I don't think they're out of line.

Anonymous said...

The Duggars only use the expression "God's will" or "God's in control" when it fits their agenda.

If it was God's will to save Josie, God Himself would have stepped in and healed 25 week preemie Josie. Instead, medical science did the saving.

God Himself should have been expected to save Michelle from life threatening pre-eclampsia too. Again, medical science did the job for her.

When all normal common sense goes out the window, one just has to wonder.

Celestie said...

Someone is expecting." He doesn't say "Someone is expecteD..." and it doesn't sound like the sentence trails off to another part that's cut off. Anna and Smugger look surprised, so I doubt it's them

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Since when do we assume Jim Bob is using correct grammar or syntax? My guess is the big announcement is that someone is expecting the Bates to come to visit.
I doubt that the Duggar parents want Jana to go a courtin'. She is needed at home to help raise the children, keep the office, cook the meals and do laundry. Remember Michelle said it was harder when Jana wasn't there. Having 1/4 of your workforce to leave would not be good for Michelle.

I don't see the children playing outside, especially the girls. As a group, the boys they seem rather sedentary, except when running around wildly on the first floor.
I think the girls keep their weight down by having limited portions, and by the physical work they do and chasing the little ones. The boys by just being little boys, burn off a lot of calories.

winsomeone said...

I thought a couple of the older boys have started to look a bit on the heavy side this past year.

Also, isn't it odd that Josh was allowed to marry when he was 20, and yet none of the others are even courting at that same age? Makes me wonder if there was some need to have him get married so young?

Reality TV Junkie said...

Also, isn't it odd that Josh was allowed to marry when he was 20, and yet none of the others are even courting at that same age? Makes me wonder if there was some need to have him get married so young?
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Yeah, I've been thinking about that too. I think he starting courting Anna when he was 16, but don't use me as a reference, I'm not quite sure. I guess the girls won't marry until they are older, but that's okay. Not everyone is ready to get married at that age yet. Also, I believe Josh WANTED to get married young, not Jim Bob and Michelle. I guess being the oldest, he wanted to be first, and be individual. I guess he was a little adventourous(sp) too.

Anonymous said...

Count me another one who finds Zach Bates cute. He and Jana would make a handsome couple. He can't be terribly uneducated, he was just elected to the town council. As far as the Tennessee accent, well, that only sounds uneducated to people who don't live in that part of the country. He's looks like he'll be a hard-working family man, I'd have to agree he's at least approaching "comfortably warm"!

Anonymous said...

Also, isn't it odd that Josh was allowed to marry when he was 20, and yet none of the others are even courting at that same age? Makes me wonder if there was some need to have him get married so young?
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I wonder if the show has made such things harder for the girls. They probably have a lot of guys interested in them because of how popular they are and it may be hard to weed out the good guys.

Reality TV Junkie said...

On the commercial, after Michelle said "We have an announcement! Someone is expecting!", I saw Amy excited with her boyfriend, and Grandma Duggar (not Michelle) shaking her head in disappointment. My bet is that Amy has concieved out of wedlock, and Grandma sure doesn't appreciate it. That would be new!

Anonymous said...

Does anyone have a link to the commercial? I don't have cable & watch the episodes online but I can't seem to find this preview about "expecting"

Ally said...

"The Duggars only use the expression "God's will" or "God's in control" when it fits their agenda.

If it was God's will to save Josie, God Himself would have stepped in and healed 25 week preemie Josie. Instead, medical science did the saving.

God Himself should have been expected to save Michelle from life threatening pre-eclampsia too. Again, medical science did the job for her.

When all normal common sense goes out the window, one just has to wonder."

I used to, emphasis on used to, attend a conservative fundamentalist type church. In that church, church members and the Duggars I'm sure seek medical care, because they believe that God has blessed the Medical professionals with that knowledge to help. The Duggars, particularly Michelle, has said several times that she thanks God for the great care and the people that had the gift to help Josie.

I don't think it's hypocritical for them to seek medical attention especially for a preemie like Josie. I don't think it's hypocritical of them to see doctors for illnesses that they have or colds that come up in their children's lives.

Anonymous said...

Do the duggars have any pets? Because if they do, maybe that's who's pregnant.

Cyn said...

Do the duggars have any pets? Because if they do, maybe that's who's pregnant.
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Last time they said anything about pets, they said they currently didn't have any, but they had a neighbor dog that came and played with the kids.

They have had lots of pets in the past though.

Anonymous said...

I remember seeing a few dogs and a few cats around the big house so yes, the Duggars have pets.

Anonymous said...

Ally said... “church members because they believe that God has blessed the Medical professionals with that knowledge to help […] I don't think it's hypocritical for them to seek medical attention”

I don’t think anyone’s saying it’s hypocritical for them to take control and get care for their kids once born – just that it doesn’t add up for them to do that but then claim that MAKING the children is all up to God and not them, washing their own hands of the risks involved at this point. I’ve said before that it’s THEIR business – but I really mean THEIRS (not God’s).

And it IS hypocritical for them to, as a rule, not want their children to go into the medical (or any professional) field should they want to based on the “outside world exposure”. Medical professionals may have been “blessed” with calling and ability, but they ACQUIRED the knowledge they benefit from while discouraging it for their own kids. Following that selective and convenient logic, neither of them would have ever obtained the real estate license that affords them a family now.

Reality TV Junkie said...

Do the duggars have any pets? Because if they do, maybe that's who's pregnant.
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I don't think that would call for a big announcemnt to the entire family.

Anonymous said...

I'm willing to bet cash money that it's Michelle who is pregnant. I read that they are supposed to be on Hannity's show the next day, probably to talk about it with a friendlier audience than the Today Show is now.

Anonymous said...

It looks like the family hairspray budget is about to skyrocket since the new commercial shows one of the little boys getting a thick shellacking of spray.

Anonymous said...

On the commercial, after Michelle said "We have an announcement! Someone is expecting!", I saw Amy excited with her boyfriend, and Grandma Duggar (not Michelle) shaking her head in disappointment. My bet is that Amy has concieved out of wedlock, and Grandma sure doesn't appreciate it. That would be new!
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LOL! While I wish this could be the case, I don't think that Michelle would be the one making the announcement, and certainly not on their tv show. This would go deeply against their beliefs and to make a big announcement would seem like they were promoting that type of "lifestyle."

If this were to happen, I would guess that Amy and b/f would have a quickie wedding, then a month later make the announcement that they were pregnant! Then the baby comes early, dontcha know.

If Grandma was really shaking her head in disappointment, then I'd put money on Michelle being preggers. And if she is, I hope the Duggars are ready for the loud boos and massive disgust that will be headed their way from far and wide. Most people found their huge family more of an oddity, like the bearded lady at the circus. Sure, you might pay a couple bucks to take a peek but only because it's bizarre.

But you add in a little preemie that nearly didn't make it, who still needs to be kept separate from other people because she's very fragile and combine that with two irresponsible parents who should know better = massive fail in the court of public opinion.

One good thing is that the Duggars are exposing what QF and Gothard are really all about, and it's distasteful to most people. I think in a way, they are doing a public service, by bringing awareness to the extreme nature of their beliefs. Not the effect they intended, but the truth will out.

Anonymous said...

I'd have to decline an invitation for a Duggar dinner.

First, the cuisine. Guaranteed to clog your arteries by 10:00 pm.

Then there's the fact that Duggar kids are allowed to run on top of food prep surfaces with their shoes on. Johannah does not seem to know that picking her nose is not something to be done. There are Michelle's talons. Just don't think hygiene is a biggie in the Duggar abode.

Of course, they wouldn't invite me in the first place, since I'm a member of sinner world.

Anonymous said...

On the Bates website its says that one of the girls is the only person who knows the gender of #18 and that was posted within the last month, so I think it is Kelly Bates who is expecting this time around.
-Lauren

Anonymous said...

From producer Sean's twitter: "Major, major announcement tonight" which was changed to "Tonight will change the course of history" (not exact words)

NO doubt now who is expecting.

MandySue said...

Of course, they wouldn't invite me in the first place, since I'm a member of sinner world.
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That's funny..but then it was the sinners that Jesus ate with. Hmmmmmm

Anonymous said...

Michell's talons? Her long nails must be a solid indicator of how little work she does in the family these days. Don't see any daughters with long nails!

Morgan said...

A tad off topic I know but can anyone tell me sean the producer's twitter user name? I tried a search for sean overbeeke and it didnt bring up anything.

Also, I highly doubt its a pregnancy announcement. The whole "someone's expecting" is just a tad too obvious and I am not sure why Michelle would be announcing any one else's pregnancy. We shall see in about 45 minutes...

Anonymous said...

Macks lil blue outfit makes her look like a boy. I love how Josh cut infront of everyone in his family to eat first.

Anonymous said...

So it was the wife of some random crew member expecting a baby.

Not sure why that warranted an announcent with the other families there. But at least it's not Michelle, yet anyway.

Anonymous said...

I laughed at the boys saying it was sooo hot, while playing basketball in jeans. Lol, yeah that would be a little uncomfortable. That's what shorts are for.

Anonymous said...

Macks lil blue outfit makes her look like a boy. I love how Josh cut infront of everyone in his family to eat first.

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I'm pretty sure Jim Bob and Michelle had Mackynzie (in a pink dress). I thought I heard Michelle cooing "Mackynzie" at her. I think Anna was holding another family's baby. Jill was upstairs with Josie.

Anonymous said...

What's with the inability to say "Bontrager"? How difficult of a name is that?

Anonymous said...

And it IS hypocritical for them to, as a rule, not want their children to go into the medical (or any professional) field





When did they ever say that? I have only heard JimBob saying that one of their children might be 'called' into the medical profession one day.

hannah said...

I dont really like Josh.


He just rubs me the wrong way. He says its a big acomphilist(sp) to get your wife preg. Yes, it is. but he made it sound like thats the only a man can acomplish(sp).

He is always eating or kissing Anna,

The bible time was seat but I thought Josie was going to in the bedroom at all times.

Mich looks nice, did they dye her hair?

Anonymous said...

I really can't believe the pregnancy was a crew member. So all the hype was just a ratings push - I was really hoping someone was engaged!

I thought poor Mack's pink bow was way worse than anything Josie's had tacked to her head. But Mack is sooo sweet and cute. I think Anna's a good mommy.

Josh is gaining a lot of weight. Jeez.

mythoughtis said...

It is not a big accomplishment to get your wife pregnant. It takes a few minutes - unless the couple has fertility issues. An accomplishment is something that you've earned and achieved with effort and persistence. Josh believes that babies are gifts from God and blessings.... so why is he telling the daddy to be 'that is quite an accomplishment?
A better statement would have been Congratulations, you are about to have a life-changing event. Glad God has blessed you in this way.

But glad that they shared their friend and crew members great news - not sure why it was done with lots of people that the crew guy didn't know and the the Duggars barely knew.

They really had us - and the kids going. Michelle commente on the kids shocked looks - wonder what she thinks that means about the state of their 'hearts' in the matter.

Family day sharing (part of Bible time) was nice to see. I do wish I was better at praising my family members.

What was up with JD and Joseph paying basketball with Jeans and Boots? Shorts, sweats and sneakers are best for that.

Anonymous said...

For those who are worried about Jennifer's speech she spoke very clearly on this episode when she said that she needed a diaper change.And while I usually don't enjoy too much of what Jim Bob says I thought his response to her was hilarious. He told her "if you are old enough to say that, you should be going to the bathroom".I love it! He reminds me of the older parents I was raised around.Jennifer really should be going to the bathroom by now but every child is different, I guess.My friend's 3 year old is still in diapers which I find absurbed but it's not my child.

I also find it very telling yet special that Josh and Anna have not announced another pregnancy yet.I really believe that they were truthful when they said it wasn't a contest and they were not vying to have more kids than anyone else.I think they truly enjoy being parents to McKenyzie and are in no hurry to add to the family.I really wish Anna would find something to do with herself other than sit at the car lot with Josh though.

Part of me is still hoping for a courtship/engagement announcement for Jana soon.She came back from Southeast Asia a much more lively and happier young lady than she had been before.Hopefully this was a chance for her to ready herself and move towards independance and a life of her own. I would say I wish the same for Jill but I honestly can't see it anytime soon since she looks to be Josie's buddy.Jessa and Jinger seem more mature than Jill and will probably be out of the home before her.

MOM IN TEXAS

Anonymous said...

I read on another blog that the producer, Sean, tweeted earlier today that tonight's show would have a "life changing announcement" and then he deleted that and tweeted something else similar in nature. Then both tweets were gone.

You know, it sort of smacks of desperation if your show's producer has to put out phony tweets in the hopes of boosting ratings. Not to mention the big "fake out" of "somebody's expecting", leading to speculation that Michelle will announce a pregnancy. Of course TLC knew that's what many folks would think and thus tune in to see if it was true.

Sad state of affairs for the Duggars. Ratings must be sliding down and they're trying very hard to get them boosted back up. Perhaps seeing the Roloffs show cancelled is making JimBob nervous. After all, he's now saddled with huge medical bills because of Josie's and Michelle's hospitalization. Oh noes! He might *gasp!* have to do some actual work if the show gets cancelled! He's sweating Aquanet.

Suzie said...

Glad I was in class, missed the east coast feed and was able to read these posts before watching this mess.

Holy chickenetti...Josh has gotten so fat he can't even tuck his shirts in anymore. Heck, even JimBob can do that. I don't think Anna is pregnant; just didn't take off the weight because she's cooking crap and they're both eating "he-man" portions of said crap. There's no other reason for a reasonably active 22 year old young mother not to have lost the baby weight, especially given how slim she was pre-pregnancy. There's this stuff called salad. The Joshua Duggars should try it sometime.

Anonymous said...

They could have been playing basketball naked and it still woulda been too hot. I live in Arkansas and our summer was BRUTAL. Temps in the 100's with high humidity. And the lows were 80's so not much relief in the evenings. We had a stretch of several weeks where you couldn't breathe outside by 10am. The schools were even cancelling summer football practices because of several kids having heat strokes.

Anonymous said...

This family is appalling. Where do I start? Four girls have been turned into teenaged mothers. It's bad enough to be a teenager saddled with a toddler 'buddy' all day, and then to have to cook a meal for 40 people on top of that? And not even for your own friends, but for your parents friends? Who, by the way, Jim Bob and Michelle can't even pronounce their last names? And then dramatically anounce a pregnancy of a cameraman's wife who the friends don't even know? And don't overlook the teenaged boys hanging out playing ping pong and basketball while the girls waited on everyone. And Michelle not bothering to see what Jordyn wanted, but just pushing her off on Jana. "Go ask Jana!" Michelle giggles in a baby talk voice. This show is so off base. I wish I could kick my Duggar habit. But turning off this train wreck of a show is as hard as quitting smoking.

Anonymous said...

It's just a glaring example of how self-centered Michelle Duggar is, when you listen to her wording at the pregnancy announcement:

"Someone's expecting.....and IT'S NOT ME !"...

Seriously, Michelle, why did you have to say the words "It's not me"....any reference to yourself should have been deleted in your thoughts.

She acts like the whole world revolves around HER.

Just goes to prove my theory that Michelle is the one driving the fame & fortune bus.

Ally said...

"I don’t think anyone’s saying it’s hypocritical for them to take control and get care for their kids once born – just that it doesn’t add up for them to do that but then claim that MAKING the children is all up to God and not them, washing their own hands of the risks involved at this point. I’ve said before that it’s THEIR business – but I really mean THEIRS (not God’s).

And it IS hypocritical for them to, as a rule, not want their children to go into the medical (or any professional) field should they want to based on the “outside world exposure”. Medical professionals may have been “blessed” with calling and ability, but they ACQUIRED the knowledge they benefit from while discouraging it for their own kids. Following that selective and convenient logic, neither of them would have ever obtained the real"

I still don't get how it's hypocritical that they didn't just let Michelle and Josie die, but I greatly respect your opinion.

2nd of all, I may have been had the same values as the Duggars at one time, but I am aware that you have to go to school to become a doctor or a nurse or any other medical professional. I'm sure the Duggars are aware of this too, since Michelle has said in past episodes that she is thankful of the knowledge that the Doctors have.

All I meant, by saying that doctors and gifted and called, was that only like 20% of the people that start out in a medical science type degree actually graduate. I say 20%, because that's the number of RN Majors that actually graduated. That's all I meant. Again, I am aware that Doctors and Nurses do go through years of college.

Last, but not least, where do the Duggars say that their kids aren't allowed to go into medicine or any other professional, high level, impressive field? I haven't heard Michelle or Jim Bob say they can't, maybe the Duggar children don't want to get a high level education and do a professional job. It's quite possible. Again just my opinion.

Reality TV Junkie said...

What's with the inability to say "Bontrager"? How difficult of a name is that?
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Von Trager*

Anonymous said...

Why is one of the younger Duggar boys sleeping on a flip-n-fold chair on the bedroom floor?

I guess TLC doesn't pay the Duggars enough to afford a mattress for that little boy?

Had to laugh when JimBob was trying to get everyone settled down for Bible Time. Those children were totally ignoring the Grand Patriarch.

I feel bad for Grandma Duggar. Her life consists of laundry, laundry & more laundry, with the occasional break so she can clean spots off the floor.

Maybe the grandmother does all that to spare the already-overloaded girls from being totally overwhelmed.

I didn't realize that a toddler making babbling noises and pointing was "sign language". Thanks for clearing that up, Michelle Duggar.

Mary said...

That basket ball game was staged. if those boys played every day they would not have missed the baskets. It looked like it was thier first time playing with the basketballs.

Anonymous said...

The sad truth is that pregnancy weight doesn't come off after the baby is born for some moms, salad or no salad. Let's cut Anna some slack. I think she looks fine anyway, I don't see a weight problem with her. Josh has gained weight, of course. The same thing happened to my husband after he got his first real job years ago, even though I make healthy dinners. He still struggles to lose the weight even though he works out after work every day. That's just the way it is for some people.

Josh is gainfully employed and Anna had a baby. They are fully functioning self-sufficient adults with a life. Should this really be overshadowed by the fact that they are carrying a little extra weight between them these days?

Mary said...

Hi

How will a courtship work between the Duggars oldest daughter/s if the first thing she does when she arrives at the Bates house or the Bates arrive there is unload truck and head to kitchen where she will live and then take care of babies when kitchen work is done. those girls are slaves in that house they get up get small children ready go downstairs and make breakfast. then teach the children, then lunch maybe more school work or cleaning up house. Was clothes and put clothes away. the dinner clean up get children ready for bed and then probably join them. that is there life. Now a few episodes ago when the twins were going away they were watching TV a western I think JOSH has a TV in hie house because they were talking about what they were watching. Its too bad Josie is already been passed to her sister. No girl in that house will marry unil her sister can pick up the slack of her being gone. My prayer is she will have her own home

Anonymous said...

Er, the footage I saw showed the boys making plenty of baskets. Their shot even looks decent and a couple of decent layups too. Obviously they play a fair amount. Even professional b-ball players miss some baskets. Just because John and Joseph missed some baskets doesn't indicate that the game was staged. Nobody makes all of them all the time.

Anonymous said...

First, we see Jordyn, Jennifer, and possibly Johannah are still sleeping in pack-n-plays, and now poor Jackson sleeps on a flip and fold chair?

Jim Bob, buy your kids some proper beds, why don't you?

Funny how you have money for golf carts and ATV's, plus a trailer to haul them all over creation, but the kids still lack proper beds.

"J-O-Y" indeed...

Anonymous said...

There's a half hour of my life I'll never get back. I am so done with this family, with a matriarch who can't even get her own toddler a drink, who has already passed off care of her premie on her older daughter (who was stuck upstairs while Michelle "fellowshipped" with people she had never met).

TLC, for shame for leading viewers on! You know the viewership is down, and the efforts to trick people into watching? Very shady.

Personally, I think this trainwreck should be put to rest, for good.

I don't want any TV money supporting indentured servants.

Reality TV Junkie said...

"Someone's expecting.....and IT'S NOT ME !"...

Seriously, Michelle, why did you have to say the words "It's not me"....any reference to yourself should have been deleted in your thoughts.
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I presume she said that because usually it IS her who is pregnant.

Also, about Bible time last night, how awkward was that?! When Jim Bob was praising everyone publicly for any good deed they had done, everyone clapped. Awkward and staged. It didn't seem real at all, and it was really odd. I could see on Jessa face that she was so embarassed and wanted to run out.

Anonymous said...

What's with the inability to say "Bontrager"? How difficult of a name is that?
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Von Trager*
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Actually, it is Bontrager. The family has their own website and they are every bit as pathetic as the Duggars.
http://www.bontragerfamilysingers.com/Family.html
In their family profile, the eldest daughter, age 18, is listed as being "delighted" to serve her family as the laundry lady. How many of these families are out there?

Anonymous said...

Ally said… “where do the Duggars say that their kids aren't allowed to go into medicine or any other professional, high level, impressive field?”

They addressed this very evasively in last week’s episode and much discussion of this can be found on the September Free Discussion. What’s offered in there regarding the limitations of the exposure (much less ability) to acquire higher education the Duggar kids get is the base of why I call the whole thing hypocritical (although I ALWAYS have to add that their kids do have free will and could always do whatever they want should they choose later on). And for the record – certainly didn’t assume you didn’t know what it took to be a doc!! lol

Celestie said...

Er, the footage I saw showed the boys making plenty of baskets.

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The footage we all saw was 15 minutes of missing baskets to reach 3 points, then close ups of baskets being made. They could have been made by the crew for all we know. They weren't very good ping pong players either. These boys do not look or act like they do much in the way of sports. They both look soft physically. This was obviously staged to show the close relationship of the two boys. I'm happy they are showing the boys doing something, even if staged.
Chances are, we will never hear them hanging out and discussing the girls they met at the ATI conference or talking about the Arkansas Razorback football game. Normal teen boy stuff.
P.S. Take your hat off in the house, John David! Manners please!

Anonymous said...

First, we see Jordyn, Jennifer, and possibly Johannah are still sleeping in pack-n-plays, and now poor Jackson sleeps on a flip and fold chair?

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Seriously??? I felt horrible for putting my 18 month old in one when traveling. Get those poor kids some beds.

Anonymous said...

I've never seen any of the Duggar little ones using baby sign language, I am skeptical of Michelle's statement that that's something they have used.

Also, almost everything we see on the show is staged, I don't know why people seem surprised that the basketball game was staged. Everything on this episode was!

Buy the Kids Beds! said...

Those kids will all need a good chiropractor one day, for the damage done to their spines in those miserable sleeping conditions. A Pack-n-play is not a bed. It is meant for overnight travel, a couple nights here or there at most, and definitely not for anyone heavier than a small toddler. I just cannot imagine how uncomfortable that must be for Jennifer or Hannie.

Poor little lost Jordyn. She wanders around alone, crawls around and up and down the stairs with boys jumping over her, doesn't even get her mother to meet her most basic needs. She is really the forgotten child in that home.

Josie still doesn't look right to me. She still isn't holding her head up. I noticed that Michelle was supporting it though, so kudos to her for one small thing.

Marina said...

Also, about Bible time last night, how awkward was that?! When Jim Bob was praising everyone publicly for any good deed they had done, everyone clapped. Awkward and staged. It didn't seem real at all, and it was really odd. I could see on Jessa face that she was so embarassed and wanted to run out.
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Wow, I so agree with you. That was so weird.

Celestie said...

I was surprised Michelle made such a big deal about "guests going first in the buffet line". Isn't that just good manners?

Callings to whatever: Many people become doctors because they like the science of the human body, they liked to help other people, they want to heal, or feel powerful, they want to make money or numerous other reasons. I don't think most of us chose our profession because we got some sort of call, we usually follow paths that interest us, we have ability or the funds to pursue.

Baby sign language: I've used it with my babies. It is a good thing for pre-talkers.

Anna and Josh seem like they are very involved with their baby, but come on, teaching her to read? The brain develops in a pattern, and there are many more important things for baby to learn at this age. Seems like Anna's time would be better spent at home doing her work, taking up a hobby, getting some exercise or building relationships with other young moms. Hanging around a little room behind a car lot is a little creepy.

What happened to keeping Josie isolated?

Bible time; Isn't this an every night ritual? Why does it take so long for everyone to settle down? I think Grandma Duggar was the only one paying attention.

Sharla said...

Ratings are in.

19 Kids and Counting (9pm)
- 1.699 million viewers
- 1.1/2 HH
- 0.7/2 A18-49

Anonymous said...

Does anyone else wonder if Jana, Jill, Jessa, Jinger, and JoyAnna ever look at poor Grandma Duggar and what seems to be her golden years fate living with her son and his wife and 19 kids and secretly harbor the prayer that their lives might offer a more colorful palette of life experiences and a better culmination that glomming onto a son and being a live in babysitter and laundress for his kids?

Anonymous said...

I couldn't imagine a better way to spend my golden years then to be with and care for my grandchildren. Some peoples palette may seem dull to others. Different strokes I guess.

Anonymous said...

Different strokes, I guess, some people think that children ought to be raised by the parents living in that very (Duggar) home, and that a grandmother should be more than a live-in maid/chef.

I agree with the other commenter, that Grandma Duggar seemed to be the ONLY one paying attention to Bible Time.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
First, we see Jordyn, Jennifer, and possibly Johannah are still sleeping in pack-n-plays, and now poor Jackson sleeps on a flip and fold chair?

Jim Bob, buy your kids some proper beds, why don't you?

Funny how you have money for golf carts and ATV's, plus a trailer to haul them all over creation, but the kids still lack proper beds.

"J-O-Y" indeed...

9/15/2010 8:52 AM
Your comment is one of my strongest reasons for disliking the choices the family (oops patriarch) makes with money.

I guess since you can't buy matresses and box springs used, the way they do shoes, he prefers that his blessings go without in order to save money for more of his toys.

Anonymous said...

"Jim Bob, buy your kids some proper beds, why don't you? "

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And some shoes that don't come from a thrift store.

Anonymous said...

Someone's expecting.....and IT'S NOT ME !"...

Seriously, Michelle, why did you have to say the words "It's not me"....any reference to yourself should have been deleted in your thoughts.
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Yah: every time I have told anyone about someone becoming pregnant, I have ALWAYS added this postscript to the announcement! You see, that way it makes it just a teensy -weensy bit about me , too.!
Just sayin'

Anonymous said...

Anna and Josh seem like they are very involved with their baby, but come on, teaching her to read? The brain develops in a pattern, and there are many more important things for baby to learn at this age. Seems like Anna's time would be better spent at home doing her work, taking up a hobby, getting some exercise or building relationships with other young moms. Hanging around a little room behind a car lot is a little creepy.
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Then the two of them MUST watch TV, b/c I think they got this idea from those "My Baby Can read" commercials.
But really, I'd rather see this sort of thing coming from them, than the LACK of educational emphasis (loosely stated) in the original Duggar household. At least they (Anna?) are TRYING.
And the glombing-on at the car lot thing IS sort of strange. But then again, we are talking about Duggar.

Anonymous said...

I totally agree with this comment, Bonehead. I think she has an OCD thing going on where she just has to have it even. For one thing, she knows that 10/10 (and an even 20)would really sell well on TLC.
She has been lucky with a run of girls to even up the score. (she did say on one episode after Jennifer, "yay, the girls are catching up" and "we just love the bows and ruffles")

She forgets that she is playing with real little lives, not collectible dolls. It makes me sick.

9/11/2010 11:29 PM
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Yes, I remember (when I USED to watch this show), her saying that. Waaay back when Jennifer was born..how many babies ago is that noW? Anyway, I agree. Collectibles. Plus I think she just plain LIKES to have girls. Some people do; it's the Dress-them-up thing. Kind of gag me, but to each its own. I mean the hair accessories have to get passed down!
Funny how that enamored-of-baby-girl thing doesnt seem to have taken with Michelle when it comes to her own granddaughter though..hmm

Anonymous said...

About the Bontrager family, on their website on their daughter Alyson's bio it states that she and a brother received a bat mitzvah blessing and the boy received a barrack something blessing. Aren't these just Jewish celebrations?

Anonymous said...

Anna and Josh seem like they are very involved with their baby, but come on, teaching her to read?

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Ummm - that was a mini commercial and not real. Remember there is product placement in EVERY episode.

Cyn said...

I guess since you can't buy matresses and box springs used, the way they do shoes, he prefers that his blessings go without in order to save money for more of his toys.
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Where do you live where you can't buy used mattresses or box springs? I'm 38 yrs old and I've never bought a mattress in a STORE, and I'm not going to start now... 600+ for a new one, 50 for a used one... I'm buying the used one.

Hotels regularly swap them out 50-100 rooms at a time, where you can then buy them from the hotels for 25 for a full and 50 for a king....

As for the fold out chair thing the boy was laying on, he could be the current bed wetter and those are MUCH easier to take the covers off wash the covers, and take the foam out side and rinse out.

OR it could have simply been a request for the night to sleep on that instead of on the bed. We have an old couch cushion the kids use to flop on in the living room. DAILY my 6yr old begs to take that to her room and sleep on that instead of her bunk bed (those mattresses the in-laws bought brand new made out of plastic covered foam because of frequent bed wetting episodes)

Anonymous said...

I feel so sorry for Jordyn. She was born exactly 8 days after my daughter so I feel especially strongly for her. I just can't believe how neglected she is by her mother. I do feel she is the most neglected because of the clothes she wears, often her hair is messy, and she hardly wears a bow like the other girls. Poor Jordyn...I feel so bad for her.

As for the sign language, all toddlers point when they want something and they have their own words for things, so I have no idea what Michelle meant when she said she "teaches" her kids sign language.

Anonymous said...

My guess is Jackson normally shares a bed with a brother, but they wanted to show him with his own bed for the camera's sake.

Anonymous said...

600+ for a new one, 50 for a used one... I'm buying the used one.
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I wish you or someone would then clue in JimBob that he can be a tight-fisted cheapskate yet still provide some real mattresses for his hard working children.

Anonymous said...

Sharla said
19 Kids and Counting (9pm)
- 1.699 million viewers
- 1.1/2 HH
- 0.7/2 A18-49
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Hmmmm, so they aren't pulling in much more than Kate Plus 8? Is this a drop or have they been hovering around this viewership for awhile.

I'm pleased to see their viewership is less than your average rerun of NCIS.

Anonymous said...

I didn't mind hearing about Anna teaching (or trying to teach) baby Mack to read. From what I hear described here and elsewhere, it sounds like Mack has two parents who give her lots of attention, and that's really how babies thrive and do well. So if in between playing with her, or taking her along to work, Anna tries to help her recognize words -- it's still mom time and that's what babies crave most of all.

I hope Anna continues to be a very hands on mom and does not take after her mother in law.

Celestie said...

I wish you or someone would then clue in JimBob that he can be a tight-fisted cheapskate yet still provide some real mattresses for his hard working children.

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There has been a mattress standing on end in the 2nd floor hall for a couple of episodes. I have a feeling all the boys have beds, as the house was built and furnished after all the boys were born. I think that folding thing is probably used as extra seating during "bible time".
The kids rooms are pretty big. There is one quiverful family that has 9 kids, stacked like concentration camp inhabitants. One bed on top of another 4 high on two sides of the room, with not much breathing room between. At least the Duggar kids have some air around each bed. Wonder when they will put Johanna and Jennifer in real beds? They could do a day bed with a trundle under it, wouldn't take up too much room and no one could fall out.

Anonymous said...

"I couldn't imagine a better way to spend my golden years then to be with and care for my grandchildren. Some peoples palette may seem dull to others. Different strokes I guess."
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Spending the golden years with grandchildren does sound appealing. However,I think most of us imagine that as just being with them, taking them on little trips and outings,going to their school concerts and sports, etc.and just being there for them. Doing loads and loads of laundry every day and cleaning for 21 people does not fall into this category. I can't believe Grandma Duggar is happy with this. I wonder if she feels she has no choice, maybe due to finances, etc. If Jim really cared about her, he would buy her a little house where she could go at night and escape the noise. Then maybe the kids could visit overnight, one or two kids at a time and get some quality time with her. We used to do that with our grandma after she was widowed. It was a nice break for everyone.

Kitty said...

Where is all of this "sign language" Michelle was talking about?

Cyn said...

As for the sign language, all toddlers point when they want something and they have their own words for things, so I have no idea what Michelle meant when she said she "teaches" her kids sign language.

She said the GIRLS were teaching them sign language, my thought was it's a new thing the girls came up with (somebody has been watching a lot of late night TV), and that which every toddler it was wanted something they didn't know what the sign was.

As For Michelle sending the toddler to Jana for the drink, Michelle was headed up the stairs to put Josie down for a nap, Jana was open and it's rather difficult to reach for a cup, open the fridge, pour the drink all while holding Josie and the oxygen sensor/ pump (w/e that was) all at the same time.

bonehead said...

The Bontrager family must be taking stuff from other religions or they are an off shoot of the Jewish religion. Bar or Bat Mitzvah is a Jewish tradition(I too went to their web-site). Course they could be Christian-Jews. I found this episode pretty lame. I was expecting more about their guests, but all we got was a couple of mins and the Bontragers singing. A big deal was made about the announcement(but thank God Michelle or Anna were not pregnant). This episode was very misleading. I also think Jennifer, besides Jordyn are ignored. The kids lost in the crowd.

msrylee said...

I was pleased to see Josh and Anna spend time with their blessing, and seemingly enjoying her. It makes me feel sadder still for Jordyn, who wanders around the house looking like a little lost lamb. Hopefully the younger Duggar parents will continue to spend as much time as possible with their child/children.

Let's hear it for the band! said...

"Actually, it is Bontrager. The family has their own website and they are every bit as pathetic as the Duggars.
http://www.bontragerfamilysingers.com/Family.html
In their family profile, the eldest daughter, age 18, is listed as being "delighted" to serve her family as the laundry lady. How many of these families are out there?"


Bontrager Family Singers? Von Trapp Family Singers? Hmm...LOL! :) In any case, my idea for TLC or whatever channel wants to pick it up is to wait 5-10 years and then go back to these "I'm delighted to be a family servant/doormat" daughters and catch them on the flip-flop and then do a reality show on how they are living their life now (both good and bad). For the most part, it looks to me like these various J.O.Y.ful parents did not come from this lifestyle, they chose it on their own and are not perpetuating it onto their kids. I doubt that many will remain in such a restrictive lifestyle after they become of age and emancipate themselves or are emancipated by their parents (once they're in their mid 30's and the last sibling is raised).

nccalgal said...

Cyn-Most states prohibit stores from selling used matresses, which usually includes thrift stores and auctioneers as well. That being said, one of the episodes featured JimBob buying a set of bunk beds at a thrift store and I recall that matresses came with it. They may have been reconditioned which some states allow. Personally, I would have the smallest ones on toddler beds. They can be bought at consignment or yard sales and take a crib sized mattress and bedding. At least they would have more support than the pack'n'plays, not to mention they wouldn't be as "scrunched" up like they are in those pack'n'plays.

Iliketheduggars said...

"Of course, they wouldn't invite me in the first place, since I'm a member of sinner world."

Not true with the Duggars. That's one of the refreshing things about them, compared to their Gothard contemporaries. We don't really believe the crew and their families are all fundamentalists, do we?

Sharla said...

It's gentle reminder time that the blog is about the Duggars not what your family does or did. It is also not a place to harrass, harangue, or make demands of other commenters. Please try to frame your comments as if you were in an actual conversation with people face to face and be considerate and polite. Thank you so very much.

Iliketheduggars said...

"Ally said… “where do the Duggars say that their kids aren't allowed to go into medicine or any other professional, high level, impressive field?”

They haven't. People assume the Duggars believe this because they have followed the principles of Bill Gothard, who discourages virtually all higher education for all and especially for women.

But the Duggars have shown they do not adhere strictly to the Gothard fundamentalist philosophies, and they seem to be straying further from them every day. So far there's no evidence Michelle and JimBob have forbidden or even strongly discouraged the pursuit of higher education.

Anonymous said...

Just a comment on Grandma Duggar. Both my grandmothers have lost their husbands in recent years and if there is one thing that helped them its distraction and family. Loosing JL was really hard for her and being around people who love her and have something to do with her time instead of wandering around the house feeling sad about everything that reminds her of her late husband is probably the healthiest thing. Maybe she does more work than necessary but none of us can know for sure. Plus she clearly spends time at her daughter Deanna's house too so that is always a refuge if she needs to get away. Remember when she "taught" the girls to knit? That was during the stay in Little Rock so even then she was able to leave when she wanted. I just thing there is far more too it then her simply being a slave that doesn't get to enjoy her retirement. I dont know about ya'all but retirement would loose its appeal if I had to do it by myself.

Anonymous said...

I agree that Grandma Duggar is probably doing what she wants to do. Why on earth would she be doing it if she didn't want to? What possible control could JimBob have over her that would be forcing her to stay there and help out? The only possible hold there could be is if he were supporting her financially, in which case she would probably feel obligated to help out. Even if that's the case, she is more fortunate than many other senior citizens who have financial need and no one who can or will help them.

Besides, Michelle mentioned in their book that even way back when they had their first children 20 years ago, Grandma always stopped by to help whenever she could, and offered to babysit often. She has a long history of helping the family out, she obviously enjoys it or she wouldn't be doing it. It's that simple.

Anonymous said...

I'm having a hard time deciphering the purpose of this episode. Why would the Duggars host a dinner party for 2 families they barely know (one of which Michelle has never met) and at that event announce the pregnancy of a crew member's wife, without the wife being in attendance? Just wondering...

Celestie said...

Baby sign language can be found in books, DVDs and the internet. Babies can use their hands in specific movements to tell you their needs or wants. One example is to clench fist while keeping it vertical to mimic a milking motion. That indicates baby wants milk. Tapping palm with forefinger means more. I first saw it used with a baby whose grandparents are deaf. It really works. Maybe the Duggars have the book or DVD or maybe making up own signs, which would work if everyone is consistent. It prevents a lot of frustration by baby and parents alike if they can make their needs known.

Anonymous said...

re: grandma duggar: if women in Duggarville weren't kept so under educated and restrained from developing normal outside interests and skills, facing widowhood might not be quite so lonely as some here have decided is Mrs. Duggar Sr's fate.

I believe that's the real point here.

No one enjoys losing a spouse, from death or divorce - both are very painful.

Having outside skills and interests can be a real source of comfort and the building blocks necessary to rebuild life - something we all have to do after a major life loss.

The Duggar women are at a distinct disadvantage because of the world and life view they have received.

Swissmiss said...

I found it rather annoying the way people kept stumblin over the last name of their guests.

I understand that kids might find it difficult, but come on, Jim Bob, couldn't you at least practice before the cameras are on???

I didn't expect Michelle to be pregnant unless I heard they were going to appear on the Today show or something.

Anonymous said...

I found it rather annoying the way people kept stumblin over the last name of their guests.

I understand that kids might find it difficult, but come on, Jim Bob, couldn't you at least practice before the cameras are on???

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I believe The Patriarch is arrogant and doesn't believe he has to practice anything. He is king of his castle - people do what he says. WHO is going to tell him to practice? Michelle? His daughters?

He can't even get his scriptures quoted/interpreted correctly. And if I hear one more time his, "Hey, Guys..." I may do an Airborne Duggar and vomit.

Not thinking too highly of The Patriarch. I think he's alot of hot air and nothing more than a failed politician and the stereotypical used car salesman.

Michelle can keep him. I'll pass, thanks.

Anonymous said...

Why on earth would she (Grandma Duggar) be doing it (helping out) if she didn't want to?

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Because she's now on camera with TLC, so she's getting paid to be there helping.

Anonymous said...

Regarding the families they hardly knew being there.

What it sounded like to me was they had met at some honeschool convention and had extended a "if you're ever in our neck of the woods, come on over" type of invitation to them.
The singing family was in town to sing, so they added a visit to the duggars to their trip.

But it was an odd time to make the announcement of the crew members wife being pregnant. That made no sense being part of it.

Anonymous said...

"I believe The Patriarch is arrogant and doesn't believe he has to practice anything. He is king of his castle - people do what he says. WHO is going to tell him to practice? Michelle? His daughters?

He can't even get his scriptures quoted/interpreted correctly. And if I hear one more time his, "Hey, Guys..." I may do an Airborne Duggar and vomit."



It seems the other way around in that household to me. I don't see JimBob ordering Michelle or his daughters around, I see Michelle doing what she wants and the girls do what they please. I don't consider him telling the girls he's taking them to donate blood as telling them what to do. Any of them could have refused. I remember one episode where JimBob went bungee jumping and told Jessa she should do it. She flatly replied "I'm not bungee jumping." That was the end of that. He tried to get the girls to eat bugs in the bug episode. They refused. What is JimBob's answer every single time he's asked if they're going to have more kids? "I've always left that up to Michelle."
They really don't fit the stereotypical fundie family in that sense.


Jim Bob says "Hey guys" almost every time he addresses his kids. That's his habit, he isn't going to stop anytime soon. The only way to avoid airsickness from that particular malady is to not watch the show.

Snap! said...

I found it surprising that the babies (Jordyn and Jennifer) went to listen to the singing instead of staying home with their mother. Why doesn't Michelle take this time to bond with her little ones?

Anonymous said...

Sadly, Jennifer and Jordyn couldn't have stayed home with Michelle to bond because they can't be around Josie much, who Michelle was with by herself. It's an unfortunate situation indeed.

mythoughtis said...

The episode plainly showed Michelle having Josie on her shoulder just a few feet away from the Bontrager male... almost a complete stranger, with who knew what germs.. if she is healthy enough for a bunch of strangers in her home... she is healthy enough to be in the same room as Michelle, Jordyn and Jennifer for a couple hours. Jana, Jessa or the ever present Grandma could have stayed back to help

Snap! said...

Most mothers of young children have been home alone with 2 or 3 preschoolers when one is sick and has to be kept separate frpm the rest. I'm sure Michelle could have set up Josie in her crib or swing while spending time with her little girls!

Anonymous said...

I just watched this episode and I noticed that Jordyn was wearing a tank top style dress. That's a first for the Duggars isnt' it? Doesn't that go against their modesty standards? I've never seen any of their girls, big or little, expose their shoulders. What was up with that?

hannah said...

It seems(at least on the show) that Michelle is only spending time with Josie.

I hope she does and tlc doesnt air it.

I mean how hard is it to go take Jennifer and Jordyn out to a park by yourself or even the store. Just to show them you do love them and she is the mom,

Anonymous said...

How interesting- I have never seen or heard of places where used mattresses or box springs are available.

Salvation Army, Goodwill, Mother St. Vincent De Paul and other charities in my area refuse to accept those items.

My understanding from these organizations and other thrift stores, outlets, etc. is that the govt. has pretty stringent rules about health concerns that would arise from contaminated mattresses or box springs.

For axample, bed bug infestations in the the US have reached epic levels due to air travel and overseas visitors bringing bedbugs from home, where the insects reproduce in hotels, are picked up by guests and taken home.

Exterminators are finding the bedbugs almost impossible to get rid of, and tell people to get rid of M/BS as a first step. Pesticide-resistent bedbugs are spreading throughout the world, not just here, and the govt. made regulations decades ago to prevent similar problems along with other health concerns such as head, body lice and other pests spreading.

Anonymous said...

I'm having a hard time deciphering the purpose of this episode. Why would the Duggars host a dinner party for 2 families they barely know (one of which Michelle has never met) and at that event announce the pregnancy of a crew member's wife, without the wife being in attendance? Just wondering...
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My guesses:
1. They are running out of ideas for filming, so when they heard about two other fundie families visiting near their area, producers went "aha!" and a dinner invite was extended.

I found it extremely surprising they would have that many people in their home considering Josie's preemie condition. All those strangers germs - was it really necessary?

2. Producers and the Duggars thought it would be rather fun to tease their viewers by raising their suspicions/hopes that Michelle is pregnant with #20. Thus when a crew member told them his wife was expecting, they decided to make an announcement about it to not only their family members, but total strangers. I hope the crew member's wife is okay with that.

Like all things, I'd say the Duggar show is running its course. How often can you say "Duggar time" and "buy used and save the difference" and "we don't overwork our daughters, that's just crazy talk!" before your audience is yawning and changing the channel to see something interesting?

I bet producers are so torn -- they would love the ratings boost that a pregnancy announcement by Michelle would bring; yet they know that right on the heels of such an announcement would come a flood of critical comments, articles, etc. I know in show business, any publicity is supposed to be good, even negative. While producers might be happy with the 98% negative publicity, how would the Duggars themselves feel? Would they welcome it as much as their producers?

Donna said...

Regarding the Duggar "sing language" (according to Michelle), they only sign language that their kids are using is the same "sign language" that the rest of the world's toddlers use. For example, pointing to something means, "I want that" or "what is that"? Pointing to one's self and crying means, "I just got hit, I fell, I'm tired, I'm hungry," etc. Hiding in the corner means "I just did a no-no" or "I pooped my pants" and on it goes. Michelle also uses "sign language" as she points to one of the older daughters" should one of her kids come to her needing something.

msrylee said...

Perhaps Mr. Duggar could have stayed home with his wife and cared for the little girls together. The older children could have attended the program, and their parents could have spent time with the littlest blessings. The two bio parents should have been able to handle three little ones themselves.

Anonymous said...

I thought Josie was supposed to be protected from all these germs. What about that "bubble for two years" that Michelle promised?

Here were two ginormous families, with more germy kids, all coming to dinner, and standing near sickly Josie. I couldn't believe it!

Reality TV Junkie said...

I don't see JimBob ordering Michelle or his daughters around, I see Michelle doing what she wants and the girls do what they please. I don't consider him telling the girls he's taking them to donate blood as telling them what to do. Any of them could have refused.
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You raised a good point. I do agree with what you are saying, but the specific time with the blood draw, I think they were forced into it. Even though they could have said no, the girls knew it was to help others, even though they were nervous.

Allison said...

How much time was Josie with the two families. The main shot I saw was Josie up in the room with Jill and Johannah. Michelle appeared to be holding Mackynzie for most of the time with the guests. Maybe they only brought Josie down to say hello, and then she went back upstairs. Also, from what I can tell from the Bontrager's blog, is that they were there for several hours, so I imagine Josie, and probably Jordyn, would have needed a nap during some of that time. So I'm not convinced she spent that much time with the whole crowd of people. The producers often edit a large span of time into a few minutes.

I noticed in an upcoming episode synopsis that they are going to discuss their "daily routine" so maybe we'll get more details about what the kids do all day.

Kitten said...

Re: the Bontragers...All I can say is that they must have amazing cows who can milk and feed themselves, given their travel schedule. Or else they don't do *quite* so much of their own farmwork as their site would have you believe...

I would have to agree with those who weren't much impressed by their singing. Although at least the younger Duggars pretty much sat still and listened this time.

Given that the Duggars don't "do" bluegrass/folk music, I wonder just what do Michelle and JimBob say about these concerts to their kids? How do they explain admiring and encouraging another family in something that they don't believe is "good" for you?

Anonymous said...

Jackson was sleeping on the floor because one of the bunk beds was missing. They probably broke another one. Those beds are old.

I loved Josh asking Jana if she had made the lasagna and Jana kind of laughed and said she had been cooking all day. She and Michelle laughed at that. I'm pretty sure they were being sarcastic. I'm guessing they think it's funny that others think they just work all day. LOL

Anonymous said...

As a student in Public Health @ USC, and one of the least sanitary things an individual can do is purchase a used mattress/child's bed. These days, they are a cesspool of germs and bugs. And you won't know about the bedbugs until it is too late.
I'm pretty sure JimBob can find decent new beds for the kids on the TLC salary. C'mon JimBob, time to step up.

CappuccinoLife said...

In their family profile, the eldest daughter, age 18, is listed as being "delighted" to serve her family as the laundry lady. How many of these families are out there?

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How interesting that the rest of what is listed is left out there. She's also an 18 yo piano *teacher*, and has an active interest in photography, which included leaving the family farm for further learning in that area. Now, that's not nearly as Grand as Harvard, but it's apparent that she has a life outside of the laundry room, and that her life in the home does not revolve around the laundry room. ;)

Anonymous said...

I'm pretty sure JimBob can find decent new beds for the kids on the TLC salary. C'mon JimBob, time to step up.


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OK, do we even know for a fact that the Duggars don't buy their kids new mattresses? I haven't ever heard them say anything about that one way or the other. I remember them buying the bunk bed frame used, but that's a different thing entirely. I don't think we should raking JimBob over the coals for buying used beds for his children we have no idea whether he's actually done that or not. Especially based on one episode of seeing a child sleeping on a fold-out chair thingie.

Anonymous said...

"I loved Josh asking Jana if she had made the lasagna and Jana kind of laughed and said she had been cooking all day. "

I noticed that too. The meal they described - frozen lasagnas, store-bought french bread, bagged salad and cut-up fruit - sure isn't a labor-intensive meal. Cutting up the fruit is the only thing that would take any time or effort whatsoever. I doubt anyone was overworked, that night at least.

Ally said...

"I loved Josh asking Jana if she had made the lasagna and Jana kind of laughed and said she had been cooking all day. She and Michelle laughed at that. I'm pretty sure they were being sarcastic. I'm guessing they think it's funny that others think they just work all day. LOL"

I loved that part. It does show that they are reading what people say on blogs. Which is a good thing. It's also good that they don't let people's assumptions bother them and they can laugh about it without getting cheeky, except for the "I'm the mom" comment on the Testy Duggars episode. That's one of things that makes them commendable to me.

Anonymous said...

Re: The validity of 'celeb' profiles....

Those profiles are just PR - if we are to believe them, Miss America candidates who can't string a sentence together are premed students who want to dedicated their lives to creating world peace and Playboy bunnies are Ph.D.'s and CEO's.

All these 'profiles' are just branding, pure and simple, AS IS the portrayala of the Duggars. There may be a shred of truth sprinkled here and there, but the entire family persona is a TLC brand, so buyer beware.

Anonymous said...

s a student in Public Health @ USC, and one of the least sanitary things an individual can do is purchase a used mattress/child's bed. These days, they are a cesspool of germs and bugs. And you won't know about the bedbugs until it is too late.
I'm pretty sure JimBob can find decent new beds for the kids on the TLC salary. C'mon JimBob, time to step up.
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The last time the Duggars got a used bunk bed at a thrift store but they said the mattresses were new. The bunk bed could have been new too. Sometimes stores will donate new stuff that may be slightly damaged but still safe.

I do hope Jim Bob spends some bucks and gets the boys some sturdy safe wood bunks. They are all going to be big teens soon and are going to need something much sturdier.

HondaMom said...

As for the sign language, all toddlers point when they want something and they have their own words for things, so I have no idea what Michelle meant when she said she "teaches" her kids sign language.

Baby sign language is actually quite common these days. We have the Baby Signing Time DVDs and some of the Sign With Your Baby by Joseph Garcia materials and they really do work.

If I remember correctly, what she was saying was that they teach their toddlers some sign language, BUT that they hadn't taught the sign for cheese yet and that is why it was difficult to know what she wanted in those scenes we saw on the show. She was not saying that the pointing and grunting was an example of the sign language that they use.

MandySue said...

Beside the fold and sleep thing we know that the little girls sleep in pack and plays

You can get a NEW toddler bed at Wal-Mart for $100 and can probably pick up a used one for $30 at a yard sale/thrift store.

IMO Jim Bob likes to show off and beds don't make people as envious as a gator, golf carts and whatever else he carts around with him the home school conferences.

Anonymous said...

I'm an OB/GYN and am very concerned about Michelle and her almost overwhelming need to be pregnant. Obviously I have never treated her however she displays signs of some type of mental illness. Just as people can become addicted to drugs or alcohol, they can also become addicted to receiving attention. The way she "baby-talks" (even to adults) is odd. Her wide eyed stare is also rather odd. I just pray she doesn't get pregnant again. Even though I worry about her health, I worry even more about her children.

Anonymous said...

Im not sure where, but there was a post on them saying it's Gods will. and it was God that Cured the josie. Well I believe that too, But I believe it was God's Will that He gave the Doctors and nurses the will to help her stay alive. I think they tend to always say that, and forget that God does work through doctors, nurses, teachers etc.
It kinda like how they say they live it up to him, when having children. Well God gave you a brain and the smarts to use it.

I also think, as a christian myself. that why don't they trust their kids. They have 19 kids that could leave the home and witness to people. Yet they keep them on those 20 acres of land. I would think that when they go to heaven, God will ask them. Did you do your part to witness. I dunno.
They also tend to pick and choose what they want out of the Bible. When you can't do that, They don't stone their children for the wrongs they do.

I dunno, I just think They should realize that God works in all kinds of ways. and josie wouldnt be alive today, if it werent for God giving us the knowledge to do things.

octavia said...

"Anonymous said...

Regarding the families they hardly knew being there.

What it sounded like to me was they had met at some honeschool convention and had extended a "if you're ever in our neck of the woods, come on over" type of invitation to them.
The singing family was in town to sing, so they added a visit to the duggars to their trip."

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What it sounded like to me was, the producers came up with the idea for the episode and people the Duggars didn't know well, or at all, were invited to the dinner to try and make an interesting episode. Completely scripted.

Anonymous said...

I think they thing their TV show is witnessing.