Tuesday, September 21, Duggars Say Cheese

The Duggars know how to get the shot! And with Josie finally at home alongside her 18 siblings, it's time to take new family photos. But after Josie takes her shots with the family it's off for a check-up where she gets another type of shot.

30 minutes

93 comments:

Reality TV Junkie said...

Everytime the Duggars take family photos, it gets better and better. They no longer look cheesy and fake like back when they had 14 children. There clothing, and hair looks so nice, and the older they get, the better they are looking. I'm always looking forward to see new Duggar pictures!

Ohio Buckeye said...

Really wish the Duggar women were allowed to get more current, more individualized hairdo's.

Why would 10 women in one household choose to have identical 'do's, muchless such an outdated one?

That long, permed tresses look.... turn the page, Duggars, and move on from 1980.

Anonymous said...

Well, at least Josie's getting her shots. I'm glad.

Anonymous said...

The Duggar girls rarely all have the same hairdo at the same time. The older girls usually bounce between curly and straight. They're not perming Joy-Anna or the little girls' hair, I am not sure where you get this idea that 10 women have identical dos? Michelle and Grandma Duggar have their own hairstyles.

Jana's hair was straight in the last episode and looked really nice.

Anonymous said...

Where would one get the idea that the Duggar women have the same hair style?

a) Have you SEEN the Duggars?

b) The Duggars made the statement they wear their hair that way because Daddy likes it.

There are so many shorter, more stylish hairdo's, and some of the Duggar girls are beautiful. It's a shame they do not (for whatever reason) venture on beyond the long, permed look of 1980 with a day or two here and there of the straighter (but still long) hairdos.

Scissors can be great friends, and I wish those beautiful Duggar girls would try to find their way out of their parents' 1980 box.

Anonymous said...

The girls look so pretty wearing makeup.I'm glad they are not forbidden it,although they are pretty without it as well.
As far as their hair,I think long hair is beautiful and never outdated,as long as it is styled properly and not one of those early 80's styles Michelle used to wear,that was way too thick.
I would like to see the boys let their hair grow out some;they all have such cropped do's and would be cuter with it a bit longer.

Carla said...

I wanna know how they get their hair so shiny. I'm on my 4,000th brand of leave in conditioners/shiner sprays/ balms/ serums and no joy. I can't imagine they would spend very much on hair products, as that wouldn't be their style.

Reality TV Junkie said...

I wanna know how they get their hair so shiny. I'm on my 4,000th brand of leave in conditioners/shiner sprays/ balms/ serums and no joy. I can't imagine they would spend very much on hair products, as that wouldn't be their style.
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Good genes, and a good diet I guess!

msrylee said...

JimBob spends money on hair products, namely hair spray. It seems that he is willing to pay for it, unless it is a freebie. Maybe the girls use more hair products than we have seen them use. Also one of the younger boys was having hair spray applied during one of the latest episodes, sorry I can't recall which one. He was standing on the stairs at the time.

Anonymous said...

I hate that poodle dog curly perm from the 80's. Those girls are gorgeous and should stop perming their hair altogether...but I bet Daddy won't let them, since "he likes long hair".

Ick.

Anonymous said...

Jessa's hair is naturally curly, so there won't be any luck there getting rid of the "permed look." Although if you study Jessa's hair compared to her sisters, you can see it does look better. This is because it's natural. The others though, wear their hair straight or curled with a curling iron more often than just the permed look.

I'm not sure why they like the permed look so much. Michelle most of all needs to get rid of it. Jill said Daddy likes long hair, she didn't say anything about permed hair. And you can have long hair and still have some layers, or a different style, which they don't. I'm not sure why they keep it in that style.

Anonymous said...

At the ages of Jana, Jill, Jessa, Jinger, and even JoyAnna, it is creepy that it is their DAD's 'do preference that predominates.

I agree with the other poster: ick.

I also agree that poodle 'do wasn't all that flattering in the '80's. Surely those pretty Duggar women could use some updating, and they shouldn't have to request permission from the Patriarch.

Anonymous said...

"I wanna know how they get their hair so shiny."

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Probably from all that grease in the Tater Tot Casserole.

Celestie said...

wanna know how they get their hair so shiny. I'm on my 4,000th brand of leave in conditioners/shiner sprays/ balms/ serums and no joy.

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It doesn't look shiny to me, it looks greasy. I think they use a lot of product on their hair. We know Jim Bob does, and have even seen the boys spraying their hair. Why does someone with one inch long hair have to spray it? I love it when the girls have their hair and faces more natural looking. They are attractive girls and don't need extra goo on face or hair. A little looks nice, a lot looks tacky.
Michelle needs a trim, badly. She looks like she is wearing a heavy furry animal on her head. It must be very heavy and hot during the Arkansas summer. If she isn't going to have it styles, she might considered at least trimming up those ends. She has a pretty face, but it is hard to see under that critter.

Allison said...

I've never really noticed that the girls have the same hair-do or that it looks like it's from the 80s. Michelle's does, though, with that little bouffant and weird bangs or whatever. It's a bit better now, but I think she needs a hair trim. Her hair is longer than her daughter's I think, and it's not a very good style on her.

mythoughtis said...

in the matter of hair, other personal hygiene.... let's get real. There are 20 (with Grandma, 21) people living in that home. Even with several bathrooms, there is the matter of using water pressure in several at one time. If they live on a well, there's a matter of how much water they can use in one day before the well runs dry. There's the matter of how much time it takes for everyone there to take a shower or bathe, wash hair, etc given the above.... plus the older girls time to supervise the shower, etc of the younger kids.

I doubt that all of them wash their hair (except for JB) daily, or even bathe daily. I bet the kids under 16 get a bath every other day... unless they get noticably dirty.

octavia said...

From the commercials, it looks like they didn't actually do a big family group shot. It looks like they got individual and/or separate group shots in front of a green screen, then all the shots were put together to appear as a group shot in front of their house. Or am I imagining things?

Either way, I guess it's a good idea. That way you don't have to try and get 20+ people looking picture-perfect all at the same time.

Celestie said...

It looks like they got individual and/or separate group shots in front of a green screen, then all the shots were put together to appear as a group shot in front of their house.

That sounds like a good idea to me, then you dont have one kid making faces and another crying or asleep. Smart

Anonymous said...

Was about to comment on the obvious use of green screening and multiple portraits to complete this "family photo," but was happy to see a couple people beat me to it :)

To add to the discussion: if you follow the gallery on TLC, you can see the individual shots after the fake group shot.

I understand that approaching the Duggar family photo this way makes things easier and the subjects more appealing in the photos-- but it goes to show you how "real" the Duggars are. I believe this photo is just more proof that the Duggars are primped and primed by TLC to get ratings. My family, even if it were this large, would object to having a fake group picture like this-- because you want a snapshot of the family as it is, not how everyone looks with perfect poise, posture, and smiles.

It wouldn't make for good TV, but I love the family pictures where my brother is doing bunny ears on one of us or maybe I'm sticking my tongue out. It's fun, and more importantly, it's REAL; that's how we interact, we're goofballs.

If the Duggars are who they claim to be for TLC, they would've schlepped all the kids out and sat through about 50 takes of a group picture to get the best shot they could. I imagine their filming for their "reality" show is equally as real as this humble family photo.

Allison said...

It seems like these group shots are fairly recent. If you look in the Duggar family gallery on their website, you'll see several "family" shots that have all the kids in it at the same time. I believe the most recent one was when Jennifer was a newborn.

I am sure this is probably part of some contractual agreement with TLC for their marketing dept, and the marketing dept wouldn't want photos that are "imperfect." And I'm sure the Duggars like the idea of having nice photos taken of them. They took advantage of their access to pro photographers when they did a photo album for their parents for Christmas last year. But that doesn't mean they've always done this.

Jen said...

on the TLC web page - The group shot in front of the house is different then the group photo with the white back ground with the small group shots after it.

The group/family picture in front of the house is less posed. check out the leg positions, arm positions, etc.

Anonymous said...

Does anyone know where I can watch this episode online after it airs in America?? Just curious since I am out of the country and don't have TLC on the TV here.
Thanks for your help!
Allison

Suzie said...

The Duggars apparently have permission to use the new family portrait. They were stacked in piles as they autographed their books in DC last weekend.

They're larger than the postcard, which I found annoying enough. Do the Duggars really believe people are going to frame this photo and hang it on a wall?

This is not computing with me at all.

PS: Jessa's hair is naturally WAVY and is often permed, but not to the point of Jinger's scrunchy and now spiral curled in front, mess. Jana's hair was permed for the mission trip and was still thick looking in the ponytail back home. I've seen Jessa's hair totally straight at times as well, so I'm betting there's a flatiron amongst their myriad styling tools.

Anonymous said...

I always thought that the way Jim Bob handed out autographed photos of his family to complete strangers was beyond-the-pale weird. And that was when the photo was only postcard sized. Imagine thinking that complete strangers really want a picture of this family, particularly in the new larger size.

im Bob's ego needs a reality check.

Anonymous said...

I've heard the girls say that Jessa's hair is naturally curly so they don't perm it. All the girls flatiron their hair sometimes. I wish they'd do away with the perms.

SuzanneDeAZ said...

I think the girls look beautiful with long hair. Why should they get a change when that is what they desire?

Reality TV Junkie said...

Only 5 minutes into the episode and alreadt two things made me laugh really hard:

-Jessa saying: "There's no excuse for Josh being late. He only has one kid!"

-And Jinger putting on lots of hairspray and then mentioning to the camera man: "I learned this from my dad."

Wow, Jessa and Jinger are now my two favourite Duggars. Looking forward to the next 25 minutes!

Judy said...

For a modest group, they sure do use a TON of hairspray, gel, etc.

teacher/mom said...

Does anyone notice that Michelle is using a 19. stroller with that carseat hanging from the handle? I do not understand why she doesn't buy a stroller that goes with the Graco carseat or a decent stroller for Josie she is a delicate baby. I twitch everytime I see that stroller with the carseat hanging off the handle. Just my thoughts, it has been annoying me since they brought her home from the hospital.

Reality TV Junkie said...

Did anyone else feel that the bow (or flower) in Anna's hair was a little juvenile?

bonehead said...

The whole thing about Josh, being late was laughable. I wanted to smack those girls. Josh was on Duggar time. So now they complain? They have mostly been late for things, why should this be any different. And really, putting kids on bar stools that turn was not a good idea. I also hated what Michelle said about Jordyn being in the same room with Josie. That Jordyn wanted to be with Josie. Michelle, try, she wanted to be with you. JMO

Anonymous said...

It's really good to see Josie doing so well.She has a long road ahead but she seems to be thriving, which is a blessing.Also,just out of curiousity,I have read here before that the Duggars have never given vaccinations to the other 18 children but for obvious reason Josie is being vaccinated. Has this, the part about the other kids not being vaccinated, ever been confirmed?

Jim Bob attempting to feed Josie was sweet and funny.He really seemed to want to help but Josie wasn't used to him. I saw, for the first time I think ever, Michelle appear to be frustrated when Jim Bob was trying to feed Josie. Michelle's bond with Josie is so apparent because for the first time in a long time she is the primary caregiver for one of her own babies.I used to dispute this when other stated that she was not the primary caregiver but seeing her attachment and her often times amazement at so many things Josie does or how a newborn is period,leads me to believe that she really has not bonded with the other babies as much. Jordyn is growing into such a cutie pie.She is so pretty and active. I often forget about the poor baby because she got lost in the shuffle of the first grandbaby and then Josie's special situation,

The family photos turned out really nice but even I had to giggle when I saw how the photo had to be pieced together because of the size of their family.

MOM IN TEXAS

Anonymous said...

"I think the girls look beautiful with long hair. Why should they get a change when that is what they desire??

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This should be clarified.
There was an episode where Jinger was receiving a home-perm and the cameraman asked her "Where does the Duggar hairstyle come from?" and one of the girls replies:

"My dad likes it this way"......followed by a few awkward moments and then this statement: "Oh, and we do too".

Riiiiight.......

Madigan said...

When Michelle started her baby voice with the nurses at the doctor's office I wanted to scream. I find it hard to believe that someone hasn't told her to speak like a grown woman. After all, she has had 19 children so I assume she is an adult. I also find it extremely rude Josh is always late then acts like it's funny. Even my 5 year old nephew knows it's polite to arrive/depart at the proper time.

Anonymous said...

How old is Jordyn in this episode? She talks pretty well.

CappuccinoLife said...

The "green screen" photo was pieced together, the one in front of the house was not. I like the outdoors one best.


That stroller thing--I do not think it is an umbrella stroller. You can't attach a carseat to an umbrella stroller and have it stay on like that. I think it must be a frame of some sort that is designed for use with a carseat.

Anonymous said...

JimBob seemed really awkward trying to feed the baby a bottle. It's not rocket science. Oh, wait a minute, I forgot....taking care of the little children is not JimBob's jurisdiction (I believe it was Jinger who stated that).

Did I see little Jordyn sitting on what was a barstool by herself? Safety issues again.

Josh being late for the photo shoot....he really does think the world revolves around him. But that's okay, 'cause he's on Duggar Time!

msrylee said...

It's my opinion that Jordyn wanted to see Josie, but also wanted some attention from Michelle. I don't know if Michelle understands that, but I still feel so sad for Jordyn. The older sister-mommies explained that she is so laid-back, and sleeps anywhere. It seems to me that she just goes with the flow, as she truly seems to have been lost in the shuffle of their lives.

I also thought the flower in Anna's hair seemed to be juvenile. Is it common for young married women to wear such hair "adornments" in Arkansas?

Allison said...

Regarding Michelle's voice, I actually met a woman at my church's women's retreat who had the *same* high-pitched "baby" voice when she was talking. No matter what her tonality was, whether she was surprised, happy, shocked, etc. her voice sounded the same. I wonder if Michelle just has a naturally higher-pitched voice. Just like how Scarlett Johannsen has a really deep voice, I think Michelle may just have a naturally higher voice for a woman. Just my thought.

Anonymous said...

I didn’t record last night’s episode, but towards the beginning, when everyone was moving to the barn for pictures, I saw what looked like the rather new style of Kubota utility vehicle – the one with a second (back) bench seat and longer dump box. Wish I’d taped it so I could get another look. We have a lot of really rugged terrain on our farm, and have the original, one (front) bench seat Kubota – it sets the standard in utility vehicles for rugged terrain. I have coveted the newer version, which runs about $25,000, and never seen anything like it by another manufacturer. Can anybody who taped this episode take a look at what I’m talking about? I would be shocked if that’s really what it is, because that’s really way more power than would be needed on what I’ve seen of the Duggar’s land. And, as my husband says, they look really cool, but you buy a vehicle like that as a work horse, not a passenger vehicle. If this is what that was, it seems like a really ostentatious display of wealth - you can’t buy those puppies second-hand; people rarely sell their Kubota utility vehicles, especially in the first few years, and if it’s the long version, it’s only been out for two years.

Really, Michelle? said...

WHY oh WHY did Michelle leave Josie on the changing table, not once, not twice, but three times...including one time when she completely left the room and was in the hall talking to the camera man? REALLY Michelle? And you have 19 children? Most new mothers of one know to never ever leave a baby unattended, and especially not up high on a changing table!

I don't think Josie can roll yet (she can barely hold her head up), but I have heard about newborns catapulting themselves off beds, just by kicking.

It was another dumb and dangerous move.

I continue to be amazed that no child in that family has been seriously hurt by the lack of safety consciousness.

Claire said...

"I don't think Josie can roll yet (she can barely hold her head up), but I have heard about newborns catapulting themselves off beds, just by kicking."

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Also, there's a first time for everything. Josie may not be able to roll over *now,* but she might be able to roll over 5 minutes from now. Maybe it's just because I'm overly cautious around babies (my brother and I were the youngest in my extended family), but I always err on the side of caution when it comes to keeping an eye on little people.

DianeD said...

Dead horse I know, but nothing else in this episode gave me that "oh come on people!" moment...
I guess that cranial flower is a necessary appendage, otherwise it would have been removed for Josie's physical exam. It was odd to see the doctor trying to examine her with that thing in the way. We did see it off briefly in one scene, but then it was right back on again, while she was still in her diaper, before she was even dressed. I was happy to see Mackenzyie pull her ridiculous bloom off during the photo shoot. A blatant baby protest if I ever saw one!

Reality TV Junkie said...

How old is Jordyn in this episode? She talks pretty well.
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That episode was filmed in July, making Jordyn 19 months. Or im simpler terms, just a bit over a year and a half.

Anonymous said...

JimBob seemed really awkward trying to feed the baby a bottle. It's not rocket science. Oh, wait a minute, I forgot....taking care of the little children is not JimBob's jurisdiction (I believe it was Jinger who stated that).



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Let's give JimBob a break here. This is the family's *first* premature baby who is more fragile than the others, and is only about three months old or so adjusting her age for her prematurity. In addition, Michelle has breastfed all the other babies until they were 6 months old or so, so he likely hasn't had much opportunity to bottlefeed a baby that young, not his fault. To use this as evidence that he's a bumbling uninvolved father, despite the evidence we constantly see of him being a very hands-on dad with all their other little girls, isn't a reasonable conclusion (Jinger's "jurisdiction" comment notwithstanding).

Anonymous said...

Will somebody please explain to me the term NIKE as it is used on this site? I just started reading here and can't deciper it...

thanks, lauren in TX

Kay said...

Perhaps I'm a bit spiteful, but I would've totally handled the Josh-being-late situation a LOT differently than Anna.

I do know that there's editing in this "reality" show. I am completely dismissing this idea because I believe Anna is afraid of Josh (not to the point of abuse, but superiority and/or confidence issues).

Anyway. My husband and I are young (not quite 25!) and have been together for many years. We understand each other perfectly and rarely ever get far enough into an argument to resort to shouting at each other; we're very in love and respectful of each other.

That said-- if he tried to pull what Josh did with the photo shoot, I would've been on the phone with him after the first 10 minutes he was late. And I would've apologized profusely to whomever we were inconveniencing-- I would be HORRIBLY embarrassed by my husband's lack of respect for the appointment (which had to have been made far ahead of time) and the people we inconvenienced.

And when he *finally* walked through the door, I wouldn't be draping myself over and kissing him. I would say glad to see you showed up, now go and try to apologize to the people you disrespected.

When I saw the way Anna handles Josh... I just felt sad. I really hope he's not as self-centered as he appears, for Anna and Mac's sakes.
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On another note, did anyone notice that the family loaded up in ATVs and cars to go to a building that was within sight of their house???

Michelle said it was 'down the road,' but when they went to take the group photo (in front of the house), they seemed to be directly outside the photo shed. Was that a different shed in the background? I hope so! If not, those Duggars got some lazy kids...

Anonymous said...

I noticed Michelle walk away while Josie was on the changing table and cringed. One of few times I would hope a sister mom was nearby and stepped over there when "real" mom walked away.

Anonymous said...

Did I really see them try to wake up Jordyn by having her drink soda? I feel bad for her. She was sleeping! I would have taken the picture with her asleep. Poor baby.

Anonymous said...

Just a couple of observations.
Michelle couldn't get Josie ready to go to the Dr with Jordyn in the room? Why did she make her leave the room to get her ready?

Why did Michelle laugh when one of the boys almost ran into JimBob when he was carrying the stroller contraption down the stairs with Josie in it? I would have been freaking out if that happened. JimBob had to lift the stroller up really high, while going down the stairs fast.

MOTY material right there.

Allison said...

Is anyone else really tired hearing about Josie? Everything is going fine and it never seems like they have anything else good to say except "She's doing so well! We're so grateful!" I feel like this has become The Josie Duggar Show. I'm not even sure how any of us will know what the older kids are doing or planning because they never talk about them! Michelle did an interview on the TLC website, saying that this fall is different for the family because of all the activities the older kids are doing. What activities?? I've never seen them do anything but go on field trips.

Reality TV Junkie said...

Will somebody please explain to me the term NIKE as it is used on this site? I just started reading here and can't deciper it...

thanks, lauren in TX
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"Nike" is a term the Duggars use when they view something innapropriate in public (such as immodest clothing). When they say that, the boys must look down, so they are not "defrauded", another Duggar term. Basically so the guys don't get raging hormones when they see a half-naked female.

Sharla said...

19 Kids and Counting (9pm)
- 1.323 million viewers
- 0.9/1 HH
- 0.5/1 A18-49

Mary said...

Why did Michelle laugh when one of the boys almost ran into JimBob when he was carrying the stroller contraption down the stairs with Josie in it?

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I only watched it once but from what I remember Michelle was carrying Josie and Jim Bob took the stroller and car seat downstairs and put it in the car. Josie was not in the car seat while Jim Bob was taking it down the stairs.

Anonymous said...

Here's my speculation.

Jim Bob once said that they bought the huge amount of land they live on because he thought one day his kids could build homes out there ("if they wanted to"). What I think is that Josh is building a home out by the Duggar estate. And then his and Anna's current house will be open for the next set of 'newlywed' duggars.. my bet being on John David.

I think they plan on building a town for themselves.

Anonymous said...

1.323 million viewers
- 0.9/1 HH
- 0.5/1 A18-49
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They pulled in slightly lower ratings than K+8 this week. Roloffs got cancelled because their ratings were hovering in this area.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said:
I have coveted the newer version, which runs about $25,000, and never seen anything like it by another manufacturer. Can anybody who taped this episode take a look at what I’m talking about? I would be shocked if that’s really what it is, because that’s really way more power than would be . . .
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If your eyes were correct, perhaps that would explain why the children cannot all have beds. The money was spent elsewhere.

Anonymous said...

I have the episode on my iTunes. Their RTV was the type with two rows of benches. The back part didn't look very long though.

The Kubota website says that model starts at $15,675. Even if it's only been out a few years, I am sure Jim Bob found a great deal on one. And i thought it looked red, not orange, but I guess it's hard to say for sure.

I still think Jackson shares a bed with a brother and that they just used the foldout thing to stage a shot.

jj said...

Anna looked like a 3rd grader in that silly bow combined with the light pink top. Someone should tell her that the Duggars only expect their BABIES to wear gigantic fake flowers on their heads...

jj said...

Oh yeah, and the changing table thing. DUH. I about died when she walked away from that table with the baby still on it.

Anonymous said...

I think I need to see this episode again to make sure, but I seem to remember one of the younger boys at some time during the photo shoot throwing "devil horns"/ wannabe gang signs. Did anyone else see that? And where would he have learned that if they aren't exposed to outside (evil) influences?

Reality TV Junkie said...

I wasn't too freaked out about Michelle leaving Josie on the changing table. She can't roll over yet, so I see very little danger there.

maynardsmom said...

I wonder if marriage to a Duggar will require the newlyweds to live in the compound?

Anonymous said...

Can't roll over YET, is classic first time parent lingo. Just because she hasn't rolled over yet doesn't mean the next Time she's left unattended she won't roll over for the first time.

Allison said...

I doubt they would *have* to live on the Duggar land, but I also doubt they will ever move that far. I am sure all the husbands will either be Tonitown natives or magically find employment in Springdale or something...

Nancy said...

I don't get why they took the family picture with their violins. It's not as if they're a traveling family band. Heck, they're barely proficient. I saw an episode from the Little Rock era earlier this week where Jim Bob emphatically states that he and Michelle had no musical talent, but wanted the kids to be able to do it.

The thing I've noticed is that among their like-minded friends, ALL the children are shoe-horned into music, talent or no.

Isn't there some other way that the children, many of whom have no concept of what they are doing in the first place, to praise their parents' Lord?

Anonymous said...

A bunch of little kids squeaking away at the violins is one thing, but 18 kids, none of whom (including the adult children) have an iota of musical talent, is another. I cut the little kids some slack, but to parade that family around, "performing" in front of large groups, makes me think that JB and MIchelle actually believe their children really CAN make music.

Sadly, when one reads the blogs of people who have listened to this Duggar noise, they think it is "really good", so perhaps there isn't a discerning ear among them.

Anonymous said...

I can't figure out the violins either. It's like they and other Quiverful families want to be the Von Trapps.

If you want to have a family orchestra you can't just have 18 people screeching away on violins. You need variety -violas, cello, bass and other instruments. I'm not an expert but I know you need some lower tones in there somewhere.

I watched the youtube clip someone posted of the Duggars receiving their award in DC last week and all the kids pulled out their violins. Half of them were waaaay out of tune, completing obscuring the good players.

On the show with the Bontrager faimily their youngest kid was playing his violin and he still had tape to show him where his fingers go. I wouldn't put him on the stage yet - he sounded terrible.

I don't get it. I think the Quiverful parents all watched "The Sound of Music" one too many times and wanted to grow up to be like The Captain and Maria

Anonymous said...

The pictures with the violins are some kind of precursor to a musical future, I think. Michelle is mentioning going into new avenues with music (and cutting back on school time) in her new TLC blog. Dollars to donuts that the "Von Traggers" were there to get their brains picked as to how to set up a perfoming family act.

They must see that the writing is on the wall as far as the TLC gravy train continuing indefinitely, and have come up with a new idea for easy money while not losing the fame whoring. I bet they'll be a package deal: mom and dad do the speaking, the kids perform at these various events they get booked at.

Anonymous said...

Is there some place I can watch reruns? I haven't been able to watch the show on Tuesday nights and the reruns in the mornings are old.

Anonymous said...

I think a bit much is being made about Michelle leaving Josie on the changing table. There are other milestones that babies have to reach before they can even begin to think about rolling themselves over, and other skills they need to learn before it even becomes possible. Josie has just begun to master holding her head up without support, and since babies develop cephalocaudally (from the head down), she just is not even close. She is developmentally about where an average 3-month old would be, in this episode. Josie is months away from being able to roll over, and I'm sure Michelle knows this. Add this to the fact that the changing table has built-up sides. The likelihood of Josie getting herself off the changing table all by herself, considering all these things, is effectively nil. I'm not saying I think Michelle never makes safety faux pas, because I think she does. But I don't this was one of them.

Allison said...

I agree that the kids are not that good with the violin, but they've shown Jana playing the harp and the boys on their guitars, and a few kids on the piano, and they seem a lot better on those instruments. Violin is a tough one, I think.

Kay said...

I played violin for 14 years straight, both in private lessons and as part of a public school orchestra, so I have some insight on the Duggars musical abilities.

There's a couple clips on youtube of the oldest girls playing, and they're not AMAZING players, but they're fairly competent. Their timing is good (watch how controlled their bowing is), but the music they play is very, very simple. For example-- when I was their age, I played arrangements like Vivaldi's The Four Seasons, and (in the video I watched) they're playing a hymn medley. Don't get me wrong-I'm not lauding my ability. I was an average violin player.

I honestly don't understand why they all play violin. They have a real music teacher-by real, I mean someone experienced- so I don't understand why that wasn't brought up by her. A balanced orchestra should at least have cellos, violas, and violins. If there at 16 Duggars playing, there should be, at least 4 cellos and 4 violas to balance out the 8 violins. A bass or two would be even better.

IMO, having children of all different ages and competencies massed together and all playing the same instrument is just torture for any honest music lover. It just sounds garbled-- the bad players mask the good players, and there's just too much for your ear to try and pay attention to. (btw, I think one of the older boys was holding a viola in the group pic)

Oh, and the person who commented on the youngest Bontrager with tape on his violin-- most kids have tape on their violins for a couple years. I had them on mine for at least two years, and then would need them again (briefly) every time I moved a size up (there's at least 3 sizes of violin). And I would, of course, put him on stage! I'm sure he's no worse than his siblings.

Anonymous said...

Is there some place I can watch reruns? I haven't been able to watch the show on Tuesday nights and the reruns in the mornings are old.

They show the episode again on Thursday nights on the Discovery Health Channel.

Anonymous said...

She (Josie) is developmentally about where an average 3-month old would be, in this episode. Josie is months away from being able to roll over..

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There are exceptions to every developmental milestone, including this one.

My child rolled over at 5 weeks, so it's possible that Josie could roll over.

Anything is possible. So why would Michelle take the risk?

Allison said...

Does anyone get the feeling that the Duggars think of the crew as babysitters as well? I can't count the number of times that I have seen the littlest kids running around both at home and outside without any supervision from their older siblings (or at least, not that I can see). Like Jordyn climbing down the stairs or into her stroller. Do you think there was a cameraman or soundman next to Josie that Michelle just assumed would be enough while she was in the hall with Jordyn? I'm just starting to notice that the kids are playing alone a lot and wondering where even their older siblings are to make sure they don't fall.

Anonymous said...

"I have the episode on my iTunes. Their RTV was the type with two rows of benches. The back part didn't look very long though.

The Kubota website says that model starts at $15,675. Even if it's only been out a few years, I am sure Jim Bob found a great deal on one. And i thought it looked red, not orange, but I guess it's hard to say for sure.

I still think Jackson shares a bed with a brother and that they just used the foldout thing to stage a shot."

If it has two rows of seats, I'm pretty sure it’s the Kubota RTV1140CPX. The dump bed looks smaller until you fold the second bench seat forward, then the dump bed is really big. They may start at $15,675, but that’s the stripped down model; after you add tax and delivery, things like roof, windshield, PTO, plow blade, etc. You get pretty close to $25,000. This vehicle is a farm/ranch workhorse, it is not a golf cart. There are much cheaper versions of utility vehicles, still name brand, that are more than equal to any task this family might need (like moving firewood). Perhaps they did get a “product placement” discount for it, but I doubt they got one “used”. As a farmer, to me it feels like they bought a Mercedes to do what a Toyota would do just fine, and when they probably just needed a Honda Civic.

Anonymous said...

Agree with those who find it unsettling (to say the least) that Michelle would leave Josie unattended on a changing table. I understand she stepped away more than once, and one time left the room?

Incidents and tragedies occur primarily because they are unexpected. A baby whose health is already compromised should be watched even more carefully than your average baby.

Imagine what cold comfort it would be for a parent to say afterward: Well, my baby wasn't rolling yet, I never expected that she would fall from the table and get seriously injured.

It goes without saying we don't expect these things. But as parents, we're supposed to anticipate at least the obvious and not walk away from a changing table when our preemie or infant is lying on it. It's called basic common sense and used to be considered second nature for experienced moms. Michelle seems very lacking in these areas.

Anonymous said...

Kay said:

I honestly don't understand why they all play violin. They have a real music teacher-by real, I mean someone experienced- so I don't understand why that wasn't brought up by her. A balanced orchestra should at least have cellos, violas, and violins. If there at 16 Duggars playing, there should be, at least 4 cellos and 4 violas to balance out the 8 violins. A bass or two would be even better.
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the snark in me wonders if JimBob didn't get a great deal on buying violins in bulk, and that's why they all play the same instrument. Buy used and save the difference!

msrylee said...

I don't understand why Michelle took the chance of leaving Josie unattended on the changing table either. That could have been the first time she rolled over and the outcome may not have been favourable. Because the Duggars believe God has spared Josie's life to this point doesn't IMHO mean that the caregivers don't need to do their part to keep her safe. Just common sense I think.

Anonymous said...

Speaking of safety, I don't understand why the Duggar's don't have baby gates at the bottom and top of the stair. We don't have stair in our house but I've never been in a house with babies that didn't.

SuzanneDeAZ said...

Concerning why they all play violin: It may be because they claim if you play the violin you can learn to play any other instrument. It is a fact that some play other instruments so they are allowed to branch out. They all started on the violin but that does not mean they will not play others as we know they do, the harp, guitar and piano.

Anonymous said...

It's really not surprising that all or most of the kids play violin. Kids often want to do what their older brother or sister is doing. So if one or two older kids were learning it's understandable that the younger kids wanted to copy them and it progressed from there.

pumpkin said...

Anonymous said "I think I need to see this episode again to make sure, but I seem to remember one of the younger boys at some time during the photo shoot throwing "devil horns"/ wannabe gang signs. Did anyone else see that? And where would he have learned that if they aren't exposed to outside (evil) influences? "

I would like to point out that this was NOT devil horns or a gang sign... it is in fact the American Sign Language sign for "I Love You".

My parents used this sign with me from a young age and even though I am grown, married, and gone, we still make this sign to one another from far away (like waving good-bye at the airport) even though none of us is deaf.

In my Christian youth group, we often added sign language to the songs we would sign, so I can sign the words to a number of hymns. I'm sure this where the boys learned this, plus Michelle mentioned in the latest episode that they use sign language with the pre-talkers.

Iliketheduggars said...

"I honestly don't understand why they all play violin. They have a real music teacher-by real, I mean someone experienced- so I don't understand why that wasn't brought up by her. A balanced orchestra should at least have cellos, violas, and violins."

My guess is because they never had in mind to have a "family orchestra," they just wanted their children to learn a musical instrument. Out of the few musical instruments kids start on at an early age, beginner violins are relatively cheap. They could pass them down to the younger kids as the older ones got bigger and better instruments.

And if they did any research at all, Jim Bob and Michelle would have learned that listening AND playing classical music improves all kinds of brain functions and early learning of math, reading, and other skills. All kinds of benefits to learning an instrument beyond a "family orchestra".

Kay said...

Re: Iliketheduggers

"My guess is because they never had in mind to have a "family orchestra," they just wanted their children to learn a musical instrument... All kinds of benefits to learning an instrument beyond a 'family orchestra'"

When I was discussing a "family orchestra," I meant for when they perform in front of an audience (like all the political stuff and speeches Jim Bob and Michelle bring the kids to). I understand the children play other instruments-- we all saw Jana's harp, Josh and John David playing guitar, and Jessa posing with a mandolin. One older group picture (circa Johanna's birth, I think) has a younger Duggar boy posing with a cello.

I would never say that it's bad for siblings to all play the same instrument. As a child, I began to play violin simply because my ADORED older brother played! I just think that if you're putting your kids out there to perform for an audience, you should at least try to make the songs sound interesting. Every song I found of them playing all-together sounds like a swarm of bees. Even just a few different instruments-- Jana's harp, or the other stringed instruments named above-- would help immensely.

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Anonymous said...

I think a bit much is being made about Michelle leaving Josie on the changing table. There are other milestones that babies have to reach before they can even begin to think about rolling themselves over, and other skills they need to learn before it even becomes possible. Josie has just begun to master holding her head up without support, and since babies develop cephalocaudally (from the head down), she just is not even close. She is developmentally about where an average 3-month old would be, in this episode. Josie is months away from being able to roll over, and I'm sure Michelle knows this. Add this to the fact that the changing table has built-up sides. The likelihood of Josie getting herself off the changing table all by herself, considering all these things, is effectively nil. I'm not saying I think Michelle never makes safety faux pas, because I think she does. But I don't this was one of them.

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I disagree. As a first-time mom, I put my 3-month-old baby down for a nap on the bed of a couple we were visiting. She was not old enough to roll over, but I surrounded her by pillows, thinking this would keep her safe just in case. A little while later, I heard her crying and went into the bedroom to get her. She had fallen off of the bed (luckily, onto the same pillows I had surrounded her with) simply by pushing herself with her feet. Try this--put a newborn baby on his back and put your hand or a hard surface on the bottoms of his feet. His legs, even as a newborn, are strong enough that he will usually push on your hand with his feet, pushing himself backward as he does, even if it is only slightly.

Even if Josie is not old enough to roll over, or has not met other milestones, she still has capabilities and it is still VERY dangerous to leave her on a high surface unattended for any amount of time. Take it from someone who learned the hard way.

Anonymous said...

I'm the person who wondered about the "devil horns" last week, so I re-watched tonight specifically to see the gesture. Imagine my surprise when that scene was cut out.

Anonymous said...

Maybe it is just me - but- Michelle looks to be about three to four months pregnant.I think that is why they keep assuring everyone that Josie is doing so very well. I'll bet there will be an announcement in the next month or so. Just my opinion. I could be wrong. My mother had a lot of children and you could just tell before you were told that she was pregnant

Anonymous said...

You are right - I think Michelle looks about 3-4 months pregnant too. Especially in one scene where she was feeding Josie and Jackson ran in to collect the laundry. She had a very loose fitting shirt on and it had way too many pleats and folds to be a regular shirt. I think I could see a baby bump when she turned sideways.

Anonymous said...

I'm the person who wondered about the "devil horns" last week, so I re-watched tonight specifically to see the gesture. Imagine my surprise when that scene was cut out.



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I still have the original airing on my Tivo, and it was most definitely an "I love you" sign the boy was making. Not devil horns.

Anonymous said...

I guess I'm not understanding why they would cut out a scene where a boy is signing "I love you". Seems like they must have thought it was questionable, otherwise it would have been left in.

SuzanneDeAZ said...

If they cut the scene out where he was signing "I love you" because it was questionable does not mean that it is questionable what he signed, as in my mind he not doubted signed "I love you". The questionable part of it means that many as on these blogs are not aware of that sign meaning "I love you" and will interpreted it to be the devil's horns. I believe if it was brought to the attention of the producers or even the Duggars they would like to have it cut out as not to offend anyone.

By the way was yesterday's show new or a repeat? Some of the scenes look familiar to me while others were new.