Jill and Derick's Wedding

It looks like it's time to have a place for discussing the upcoming wedding - June 21.


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tulip said...

I just can't bear to see another honeymoon getaway car wrapped in cling wrap, father of the bride talking about taking the "high road" concerning physical intimacy, or lack there of, and any girls referring to their mate or even fiancée as their "very special friend". Hope we see a somewhat classier reception then the standard homemade crab salad and punch fountain, esp. if TLC has a hand in footing the bill.

sandi said...

At least there will be no more special cakes for Gothard.That's a good thing. :)

sandi said...

I hope John David and the boys spare Jill and Derick the smelly stuff they put in Erin and Chad's car.

confused in Germany said...

Actually, if that wedding meant, we could get a breather from Jills wisecrack parrotting of her fathers "wisdoms", that would be lovely.
I am sure, she is a lovely girl, but lately she's been getting on my nerves. With the book and then with her fiancée. I do prefer Jessas reduced style of courtship. She is actually guarding her heart, but in some sequences one can see, that when she feels not so watched, she does look at Ben appreciatively.
Jill was called bubbly, but I can't see that. Sorry, as I said, I am sure, she is a nice girl. Maybe I am biased, because my favourite is Jana and due to Jill she has to do this Doula-Training. Anyway: I do wish the happy couple all the best and I am sure, they'll be very happy.

Willow said...

I was happy to see that it looked like John and Alyssa did not have any debris attached to that beautiful Mustang that they got away in.

Anonymous said...

Why should TLC foot the bill? This is strictly a personal event. Even with $3million in the bank, if you don't have good taste, it just will be tacky. I certainly hope those god-awful wedding shower colors, (pink and pea green) aren't Jill's wedding colors..Look for more cheese chunks on toothpicks folks!

Anonymous said...

They made bill gothard a cake?

Anonymous said...

I wonder just who will give her the you talk and the tape to watch or listen to on the way to there to ther honeymoon Jimbob or Michelle just can't wait to find out

Judy said...

I'm looking forward to a wedding special complete with someone announcing she's expecting....

Faith said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
They made bill gothard a cake?

When Chad and Erin were married they presented Bill Gothard with a cake (I think it might have been his birthday?). He was also part of the ceremony.

Anonymous said...

I am sure this episode will feature a live birth, show Dumb Jim Bob and Dummer Michelle trying to educate their daughter on sex and how the wedding gown was tailored for modesty. Someone should tell the boys it is pretty common now to decorate the car with condoms not balloons.

Anonymous said...

I am sure Bill Gothard is still running ATI and the Duggar and Bates lives. They may have pulled him temporarily from the organizations letterhead but he is always in control.

Wampascat said...

At Erin Bates wedding, a special birthday cake was made for Bill Gothard. So, they had to share their wedding day with special announcements for that molester. Nice, huh?

Anonymous said...

The Duggars don't have a church they go to regularly, where will Jill get married? Do you think they will have the wedding at their house? Will JB marry them?

Anonymous said...

Don't know who wins the award for most irritating....Michelle D or Mama Gates.

Anonymous said...

Who is Mama Gates?

Anonymous said...

I believe the cake for Bill Gothard's birthday was at the wedding reception for Erin Bates Wedding. If not, then it was Zack's wedding. Don't remember, but it was involved with the Bates family, not the Duggars.

Leigh Ann said...

I was wondering that myself. I imagine they'll get married at Derrick's church. Although they could certainly have a nice outdoor wedding at the Duggar compound and there's plenty of space indoors for a reception.

And about Erin, I didn't know that. You shouldn't have to share your wedding day with anyone else's celebration.

sandi said...

I think Gothard has,at least in the past,always been a part of the fundie weddings,it's just that he doesn't allow filming,so he's edited out.And I don't think tlc would care to inc. him anyway.
That said,I do agree his 'former' followers are still following him.It's a lifetime commitment they've invested in,and there is no way they are going to give up their false Christ now.JMO.

auntliddy said...

Their home is their church, and by amazing coincidence, it now becomes taxfree! Jimbob's got every angle knocked. In my life i have alot of fundies, and as pious as they are, in the business world they'll rip your heart out. I even asked a fundie friend about this once, and he seemed completely shocked that religious ways and business ways wld ever be linked. I gues business is where all their tamped down agression comes out!

Willow said...

Jill and Derick did not share the information about the location of the wedding. Maybe Derick's church? I think he goes to a fairly large church and it is Baptist I believe. I think it will be a pretty large wedding. He has a church family and probably many friends from his college days. And then there is the Duggar side ...

Willow said...

Who is mama Gates?
and why is she irritating?

Anonymous said...

These 19 are at least 10 years behind in their maturity level. John David jumping off the podium in the middle of Josh's wedding and running up the aisle was so lame and childish. I hope this does not become a tradition. If they had real, adult parents, this would not be allowed.

Anonymous said...

Jill behaves like a 12 year old with her first crush on a boy. Is she really 22??????

tulip said...

I'm betting Jill & Derick will be married at the house, possibly an outdoor wedding with the reception inside the house, homemade decorations Duggar style: balloons, handmade posterboard signs and streamers. Buffet-style eating on paper plates in the wedding colors and a couple of punch bowls.

Elvira said...

Their home is their church, and by amazing coincidence, it now becomes taxfree!

No and no. They have "church" in what looks like a warehouse and they have never had their home tax free. All it takes is a quick check of county property records.

Diana. in Maryland. said...

Don't worry, the Duggars are working every possible tax angle. I don't think any of them will be married at the Duggar manse.. because they must have their church family around them..

auntliddy said...

Elvira, i stand corrected. Thank you.

Anonymous said...

I am thinking they will get married in the Duggar home, maybe in outdoor tents or something. I hope Michelle gets a decent dress and a nice pair of shoes. I swear I will scream if she wears those old sloppy black shoes and tights to the wedding.

Anonymous said...

If they are home-churched, then how did Jessa and Ben meet? I think I've heard Ben say a couple of times now that they met at church. Just wondering...

Mary said...

yes Jill acts like a 12 year old around a boy. She has never been around a boy. She see this man and thinks she is in love/ She has no idea what love is. She sees her parents and thinks that is love. How sad these children have no life or childhood. all they know is to serve the men in that house. The boys do nothing and the sisters wait on them.

mom in texas said...

Anonymous said...
Jill behaves like a 12 year old with her first crush on a boy. Is she really 22??????
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That is because Jill has about as much real life experience as a 12 year old. Jill has never been allowed to have an original thought. Jill has never gone anywhere, outside of her home, alone. Just typing that statement makes me realize how utterly ridiculous that is. This is a 22 year old woman who has never lived away from home, has never had a relationship, has never done anything without an accountability partner. I have followed the Duggers for a long time, but for some reason, the depth of just how twisted they are just hit me. I mean of course I knew it but I guess thinking about the life ahead for Jill made me realize how this will be a whole new world for her to explore with a man she has known for less than a year. Even though we saw Josh and Anna go on their own, I feel sorry for poor Jill. I think she will make a beautiful bride but I can see her crying, having a panic attack over the thought of not sleeping in the "big girl" room (as she called it). Speaking of, has anyone seen the Jill and Derek love nest yet? Normally fundies have a little place set up prior to the wedding. I wonder where theirs will be?

Anonymous said...

Guesses on Jill's maid of honour?

Elvira said...

They haven't had church in their home literally years.

They meed in a converted warehouse/industrial building now and have for quite some time.

sandi said...

I think Jill will have a church wedding,my guess is Derick's church.I don't think the Duggar compound would be large enough,in this case.
Maid of Honor...Jana would be my guess.Unless Jill has some close friends we don't know about.Or one of the older Bates girls?
I think some one meant mama Bates,not Gates? iow-Kelly Bates.
None of the Duggar ladies strike me as the type to cry at the thought of leaving Duggarville,like Erin Bates cried over her family.In fact,they all seem very anxious to get out of there! Jill esp. seems anxious to go and be with Derick and leave the compound.jmo.

Anonymous said...

I'm pretty sure from the ads I've seen that Jill will be going to N. Y. to Kleindfelds for her wedding gown. Please, if there is a God, don't let Jim Bob be there to help pick out the gown, the way he did for Michelle for the vow renewal ceremony for their 25th anniversary. I will never forget the entire family trouped into that beautiful store, including Josh & Anna who were married & expecting Kenzie. At that time, I don't think I was aware of all the set-ups, we have since seen. Michelle, was going with the saleslady to try on gowns. This was supposed to be her choice, as for some reason she wore Jim Bob's mom's gown, for her wedding. Jim Bob kept asking "Momma, do you want me to go with you, ( to the dressing room ) & Michelle answerd; "no daddy, that's ok." When she got to the dressing rm, she told the saleslady, "I am really just so very modest, I would rather try these on by myself. I'm just that modest." The saleswomn, sat outside the dressing rm,for the very 1st time since she had worked at that store. No one seemed to like the 1st two dresses & Michelle didn't really seem to care at all, just shrugging her shoulders each time they asked her if she likd them. The 3rd dress, you could tell right away was Jim Bob's choice. By then, the saleslady was well aware that he was in charge of picking the right dress so the saleslady looked to him for an answer,he nodded his head very slightly & looked up with his eyes ( I know how crazy this all sounds) He then said he like the dress & Josh, then stepped forwarded & said in a very authoritative voice, "I think we could say yes to this dress." Michelle then liked it too. Then, Jim Bob said, he wanted the dress to have "puffy sleeves." He could not be talked out of that, by anyone, not the girls or Josh, who asked him when he had taken a class in dress design. In the end, they made the dress over to be modest, & it had very puffy sleeves. By the end of the appointment the boys were laying all over the chairs & floor & were asleep. Michelle, as usual was laughing & saying that's how boys are. Please don't let this happen to Jill & if Jim Bob goes along that's exactly what will happen,believe me.

Anonymous said...

The Duggars are basically setting up their daughters in arranged marriages. I have a friend from India, and his courtship was very much like the Duggar's, except he got to hold hands and kiss.

Anonymous said...

I remember that episode when JB picked out the vow renewal dress at Kleinfelds. It was a disgrace how the howlers ran around like they were in an amusement park. Jill,Grandma, her mother and maybe one or two of the older girls should go with her to help pick out the dress, but leave the rest of the crowd home! JB doesn't have to go or approve of the dress, Jill is an adult for pete's sake. JB is so controlling.

Anonymous said...

I would laugh if Derick trashed Josh's car instead at the wedding. I would go there myself and help him fill it with smelly stuff and write all over it. I would wire the horn to the gas peddle. It would be so funny. Smuggar needs a taste of his own medicine.

tulip said...

"I imagine they'll get married at Derrick's church."

It seems to me that in this group, weddings have usually been held according to the bride but I don't know if that's just a coincidence. Josh & Anna as well as David & Pris were married at their church in FL, Zach & Whitney I believe at Whitney's church where her Dad is the pastor & the one who married them, Chad & Erin and John & Alyssa both on the Bates home turf Tenessee. For some reason, with Jill being a daughter and the first of the girls to marry, I just can't see JB "allowing" them to be married at Derick's church. Seems to me JB would be left too much out of control, so I just don't see it.

Judy said...

They get to hold hands once they're engaged! What a step up!!

Judy said...

I have always liked Jill very much -- she appears bright, committed to her work, passionate, and very calm and cool under pressure. But when you put her in a room with Derick, or talking about Derick, she turns into a preteen giggly girl. It's very upsetting.

Anonymous said...

It would be great if they eloped to Vegas and tied the knot in a 24-hour, non-denominational wedding chapel with an Elvis impersonator officiating.

Anonymous said...

I still think that Michelle didn't want the bridal consultant at Kleinfeld's to help her into the gown, not because she is modest, but because she was embarrassed for the lady to see Michelle's post 18-kid body. I'm sure she looks like an overblow balloon with the air let out, and she MUST have some incontinence appliances on. She leaks; she has to, after all those kids, and "up top" too. Yuck!! Modest? My foot; that lady is anything but modest.

Allison said...

Okay, so I can't really vouch for the validity of such claims, but Star magazine has a "source" giving some details of Jill's wedding. Apparently they are getting married in the same church where Jim Bob and Michelle got married and Jana will be her maid-of-honor (which makes sense IMO).

http://starmagazine.com/2014/05/29/jill-duggar-derick-dillard-wedding-date/

Miz Kizzle said...

How is it immodest to let a dress fitter see you in your undies? Doesn't she share details of her ovulation cycle with a national TV audience?

Anonymous said...

Jill is an adult& should be able to pick out her own gown with some help from her sisters, mother & maybe grandma. But don't forget, that Michelle was an adult, when she went there, to pick out her dress, but it wasn't her picking it out at all, it was Jim Bob. He was in total control of that appointment at Kleindfelds. He picked the exact dress he wanted & then had then add the "puffy sleeves." If they weren't going to make it over with the "puffy sleeves," he likes so much, then he didn't want that dress.

Anonymous said...

These people are so twisted. They won't let someone (a professional) help them change into their wedding dress…but they tell the whole world about their personal business and they kiss and dry hump on camera in front of millions of people and their daughters and their boyfriends. They are so obsessed with hiding their bodies from the world, but yet they can talk about their period cycles on TV and basically have sex in public places with a film crew taping them.

Anonymous said...

Michelle was actually pregnant when she was trying on the gowns for her vow renewal. I believe it was with Josie, as it was the same time Anna was pregnant with Mackenzie. They had to move the renewal ceremony up when they found out Michelle was pregnant. They were afraid the dress wouldn't fit. Good thing it was a renewal ceremony not a wedding! I never got over them being in a store like Kleindfelds, & Jim Bob saying, "momma do you want me to come to the dressing rm & help you?" Michelle replied; "no Daddy I'm all set. Each time she came out in a dress,wanted to know if he could go back & "help her" Yes, the kids were just awful. If I had been there with my daughter, trying to have a nice mother-daughter bridal gown shopping experience, I would have really complained about the kids touching all the dresses etc, rolling on the floor. They didn't need to bring all of them. It was just for show...look how many kids we have...who cares?

hello said...

They have to bring all the kids everywhere so nobody forgets how many kids they have. If I was the owner of the bridal shop, I would have told them to either control the kids or leave. There was no reason at all to drag all the kids there and it was unfair to the other customers that were there shopping that day. I wonder if Jill was able to go wedding dress shopping with her mom and some of her sisters without having to bring along her buddies.

sandi said...

Now that Jill is in a courtship,I do wonder if there is anything she would rewrite in the book she and her sisters wrote.She doesn't seem to be following it line by line,sort of like she has had to rethink some things,now that she has had at least some limited experience with it.jmo.

Anonymous said...

I would have thought that Michelle would have been proud to display her "expectant abdomen" to that professional at Kleinfelds. I still think she looks awful underneath it all, and wears incontinence appliances; she's not so modest to "birth babies" on TV and show us her knees in the process, is she? Ovulation cycles, all those crass displays insinuiating sex with her "woooonderful husband", Jim Bob. These people are demented. Kleinfelds should have spoken to them before hand and allow only so many "adult females", including Grandma Duggar to accompany Michelle. It was inconsiderate of the other private bride shoppers during their appointment, that they paid for, to have this circus around them.

Anonymous said...

I hope Jill has a Kleinfeld appointment and chooses the "Pnina Tourne Stripper-Fairy Dress" as her wedding ensemble!

auntliddy said...

Im sure Kleinfelds got a nice chunk of change, no worries. Of course all the children shouldnt have been there, but ' momma ' and 'daddy' need the adoration of all kids all the time.

Wampascat said...

I have to agree with the comment about the dress shopping . Kleinfeld's certainly doesn't need the Duggars to advertise for them! They were probably appalled at what they did to one of their dresses!

Anonymous said...

I think we can all reasonably assume that at the very least all the girls will be there for the dress selection. For some unknown reason I think Anna & MacKenzie will also be along. One thing we know, it will be modest. It was a shame, that Erin Bates had that wedding dress altered to make it modern. You could see it had been a very pretty dress, but when they alter them they are never that pretty...but they are modest.

Anonymous said...

I hope we don't see another neckline and sleeves like a t-shirt style. Makes the dresses all look the same. Also, when poor alterations are made, the dress is ruined. Erin Bates was a victim of that one. Michelle didn't need a dress from Kleinfeld and TLC shouldn't have paid for it. JB can pony up the bucks for his beauuuuutiful wife himself. I also wish that Derick's parents would step up to the plate too, and interview Jill. That staged Ben's family dinner was a joke which included Jessa's "interview". I hope Derick and his family are not like the Duggars.

Anonymous said...

As bad as the shopping experience at Kleinfelds was, it was worse when the dress arrived at the house. Michelle told the little ones, who saw the box arrive, to leave the box from Kleinfelds, outside on the porch. I have no idea why. The kids, then began playing with the box with the gown in it, poking it with sticks, etc. Finally, Michelle said to bring it in & she allowed the little kids to use scissors to open the box. Then they put their dirty hands all over the gown after they took it out of the box. There was really good news though, the gown had really puffy sleeves!

sandi said...

I did think it was funny when Josh said "this isn't the 80's" when talking about the type of dress Michelle was going to wear from Kleinfeld's.iow don't be too old fashioned.LOL.

Wampascat said...

I saw pictures of Jill and Derick's house on Facebook. It looked like they were setting up some wedding gifts. Looked like his mom(?) was helping put together a TV stand. Any hope that Derick would be the guy to change everything was pretty much dashed. Looks like they're moving into another Jim Bob house. People are saying it's the one the kids cleaned up and found the kittens. So we know for sure they will be under Jim Bob's thumb and he will call all the shots.

Wampascat said...

I sneaked a peak at the registry and the items are flying off of there. I still don't understand why there are so many duplicate items. She has three or four expensive juicers selected, two big knife sets with blocks plus a ton of other knives and more cookware than anyone could ever use including several huge stockpots. She has received two vacuums and two coffe pots. I wonder if she has items on there to give to Michelle? It wouldn't surprise me if Jim Bob suggested such a tacky way to get freebies!!!!

Coleen said...

Who is Mama Gates?

Wampascat said...

I think they mean Kelly Bates, not Gates.

Anonymous said...

I agree Wampascat, that registry made no sense to me with all of the duplicate. His and her knives sets?

Anonymous said...

Where on FB is picture of Derick and Jill's home?

auntliddy said...

Wamp, i think she is just used to living and dealing with 20 plus people! She's probably never had 1 of anything, lol

kindle.writer said...

I think whoever originally said Mana Gates made a typo. I'm sure it's actually Mana Bates

Ginger said...

Re;Wampascat's comments about the house, Jill & Derick are moving into. Not everyone needs to start their married life n a house, they could rent an apartment. I just loved the little apartment where we started our lives together. Don't think for one minute, there won't be rent that needs to be paid to the landlord, if that's Jim Bob. The real issue here is, the total control Jim Bob will have over that couple. It would make me sick, if that's the life my son was headed for, especially when I had seen him accomplish so much in his young life. He completed college, & traveled to another country to do missionary work, has a real job & future. I would certainly be hoping for a more independent start in married life,for both he & his wife. I would sit down, & have a real heart to heart with him, just so he wouldn't think I objected to his choice of a wife. I'm not sure about his relationship with his step-dad, as we haven't heard much about that side of the family, (bad sign,right there)but,if he has a good relationship, with his step-dad, I would ask him to talk with him also,just so he'd have another perspective on what he's getting involved with, having JimBob as landlord & father-in-law. It's JimBob & Michelle themselves, that are always saying,that when you marry, you don't just marry that one person, you marry the entire family. Jim Bob & Michelle are never going to let go!

Alberta Rose said...

I think we can all reasonably assume that at the very least all the girls will be there for the dress selection. For some unknown reason I think Anna & MacKenzie will also be along.

Something similar was already done as a Cake Boss/Say Yes To The Dress crossover when him and his wife had a vow renewal to celebrate their 10th wedding anniversary. It was awful with all of Buddy's sisters, his mother, his MIL and his daughter. At least if it involves the Duggar sisters, they'll be a whole lot more respectful than the Valastro sisters were.

Anonymous said...

What are they listed as on fb?

Anonymous said...

Another Duggar contradiction: They say you marry the whole family? Well, what happened to "leave and cleave"? They said that when Josh married Anna, didn't they and they controlled them and still do, IMO. I really would like to hear from Derick's family and know if they are Duggars-in-tht-making, or if they are regular Christians..His mom works outside the home in a real job and dresses tastefully. Sorry, but I still think that Jill has a lot to learn from Derick's mother. Michelle has tapped out her influence once the kids were weaned. Still can't hold a candle to Mrs. Derick's Mom, IMO<

Anonymous said...

Here is the FB page with some pics of their home.

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Derick-and-Jill-Dillard/1480440265504529

Anonymous said...

Kleinfeld's started in Brooklyn and has always had a large orthodox Jewish clientele who also have modesty requirements. They have a separate area for more religious brides and are adept at transforming gowns to be more modest. What they are not good at doing is ruining gowns, i.e. adding puffy sleeves. Jim Bob truly believes he is omnipotent.

Beth Anne said...

Re: At least if it involves the Duggar sisters, they'll be a whole lot more respectful than the Valastro sisters were.

Unless JimBob decides it is a full-family film opportunity and decrees the ENTIRE family be there, including Jackson, Justin, Jordyn, Josie, etc. In other words, the outing would include smaller kids who don't have the patience to sit in a bridal salon for 2-3 hours and probably don't care about Jill's dress anyhow.

ALL the little ones were there for Michelle's Kleinfeld trip, and they were restless and taking up huge amounts of space - not an appropriate venue for all those little ones. I'd love it if Jill would just have the older girls and her mom, grandma, and maybe Derick's mom along.

Anonymous said...

Do we really know if that is JB house? I hope not; I am just waiting goes out of 19 kids; somebody is going to tell the real story on what goes on in there. I am just waiting!!!

Anonymous said...

I was also thinking that Kleinfeld's has modest dresses already, and there is no need to alter a strapless dress, it never looks right. Some women wouldn't feel comfortable having men around when they are trying on dresses. It isn't appropriate for JB to be there.

Anonymous said...

I am from Brooklyn and am familiar with Brooklyn Kleinfeld. It slipped my mind as to why oh why didn't Michelle go in the "orthodox wedding gown department" ie, house of worship wedding area? Maybe she didn't want to shop with the "Hasidic sect". How would they explain them to the kids? I have worked with the orthodox sect for years in NYC, and I find them to be very polite, classy and truly modest. Nothing like MOTY...( I also bet they allowed the bridal consultant to help them into the sample dresses which are worth thousands of dollars). These sales professional are responsible for the piece, and Michelle didn't have the intelligence to consider that. What a hick. (Sorry to our rural readers, but you know how unaware they are). No offense meant.

Anonymous said...

What I don't get is, why would Derick need someone to "give" him a little rent house to start out his married life? I mean, he is a 25-year-old accountant! I understand that, at his young age, he may not be able to purchase a big home, but certainly he should be able to buy a starter home without any help from ol' Jim Bob! Several of my college friends graduating in accounting at age 21/22... and they all were absolutely able to purchase a nice, medium-sized home by age 25. Even if Derick and Jill choose to rent for a while, it still seems like he could make those arrangements on his own with JB. I really, really hope Derick doesn't drink the Kool-Aid.

Anonymous said...

There was a birthday cake for Got Hard at Erin Bates's wedding.

tulip said...

I would think Kleinfeld's would do a superior job of modifying a gown for modesty, however I have to say when I saw Michelle's dress I could not believe how a once rather nice looking gown turned into such a mess, looking like a t-shirt top attached to a bolt of white fabric. The bust was way over done like someone took a toilet paper roll and just started wrapping it around and around. Honestly, they probably were caught way off guard by such an oddball request. Actually when I saw Erin's dress, it reminded me of that with the t-shirt style sleeves and full bust. It just didn't look natural, but rigid, kind of like there was a cardboard form underneath.
I don't know what to expect with Jill. It seems like when they keep trying to modify the dresses it just looks so odd. Whitney tried, but even hers looked a little strange with that mini piece of lace they sewed between the supposed plunging neckline and bolero style covering to hide the bare shoulders and backless part. I thought Alyssa's actually looked the best, but I think that's because it really didn't appear to be modified. I don't know, I don't see much hope.

JingerSnap said...

Someone will defect. At a certain point there will be too many players under too many rules. I also think it will be difficult for some of the older girls to subject their daughters to an almost quarter century of servitude in pursuit of a mega family. Anna seems overwhelmed already. If she has a few more boys in a row, it would be difficult to share the burden with Kenzie. Hopefully Jill and Derrick will be more sensible and kind to their offspring.

Anonymous said...

If it's the house Jim Bob had all the kids cleaning out, then it's his house. Of course, there is the possibility that he has sold it, since that episode aired. Who knows, with that family. I was just so hoping, that Jill would get out of, the Duggar compound, & extended grounds. I too, wonder what Derick's family thinks of this marriage? His brother was left completely out of the picture, literally. Nobody from the Duggar family, has ever mentioned the brother. I've never heard his name mentioned. I wonder if he could talk with Derick about his future father-in-law,re:how controlling JB is. We don't know if he's older or younger than Derick. . Strange, that we have been told about Ben's family,including visits to their home,once with Michelle& Jesesa & again with Jinger. Also Ben's mom, going along on one of the bus trips & attending Josiah graduation party. At the party, but outside, we caught a glimpse of 2 people, that JB, identified as, Dericks parents just dropping off a package, to be delivered to Derick in Nepal. However, they didn't come into the house,during the party. Nothing else about Derick's family. It also make me wonder, why they didn't make an episode, out of the Duggars having a dinner with Derick's family, all of them:mom, stepdad & brother? We know if it was the other way around, the Duggars would bring the entire family over for dinner.

Anonymous said...

Re Auntliddy's comments, about Jill selections on her wedding registry. She may only be used to a home with 20 plus people,but they always have a wedding registry consultants, that will sit down with the bride to decide, what is really a need, verses a want. Any store,with a reputable bridal registry, will not be listing duplicates of; very, very, expensive items, just because, the bride comes from a large family. Since there are so many duplicates, of very expensive items, perhaps everyone should watch for JB's next;"yard sale." Also, after all these years,under her parent's roof, doesn't Jill know that; "greed" is a sin.

Anonymous said...

I'm willing to bet anything that Derick's mom will not even be invited to shop for the bridal gown. I'm sure they'll do an episode & I also believe that Anna will be there, but as far as Derick's mom goes, you really wouldn't want her to think about expressing an opinion about the gown when Michelle is in the room.

Anonymous said...

Re: Alberta Rose's comment about the Valastro sisters at Kleinfelds. It's true that their behavior was inappropriate. However, the the older Duggar girls will definitely be respectful at any bridal shop they might go to. The problem comes when the family decides, they should bring the little ones along. Even if they only bring girls: Johannah, Jennifer, Jordyn, & Josie, possibly MacKenzie, it will become a wild scene. Those little girls are, just as bad as the boys when they are all together. I really believe, they will either decided it should be an "entire Duggar outing," or a "girls day out," such as the girls at the candy shop, while celebrating all the birthdays. They were wild stomping around, & licking the table. Little ones cannot be still & quiet, for the length of time, that is often expected of them; such as interviews on; The Today Show, etc.

Anonymous said...

Derick get Jill away from the cult ASAP the minute you say those vows. Jimboob is not going to give you wise council he is going to control your lives just like he controls Anna and Josh's. Anna's Dad thought it was a good idea if Josh took the job in DC. JBoob not happy at all. Pa Keller is a smart man. I am sure he is aware how manipulative the Duggar Parents are. Pa Keller won't say much though because TLC if contributing bucks to keep Anna his daughter in a better lifestyle than she might not have had if she married someone else. And Anna. She Has to Cleave.

Anonymous said...

It is possible that the house was a wedding gift from the family and Derick is financing the remodeling. On the other hand, he made no money in Nepal for two years so the whole thing could be a gift or a projection of their future split of the TLC money. I don't believe Derick's mother would have any interest in picking out a wedding dress with Mullet and the clan. At least I hope not. After all, she has a life.

mom in texas said...

http://starcasm.net/archives/274328

I came across this interesting article showing Derick and Jill's wedding invitation as well as a story about Derick's days as Pistol Pete, the OSU mascot. I am quite surprised and impressed. There maybe some hope after all that Jill will have some normalcy in her life. Derick surely danced and listened to secular music as the OSU mascot. I hope he can be an example to Jill and her siblings that a person can be a Christian and still live like the mainstream folks without all the sins!

Anonymous said...

I am actually kind of surprised of the courtship pairings, but when I see Jill and Derrick together, their feelings seem legitimate. I always thought Jill "drank the Kool-Aid" because she is very verbal about her support on her parents' beliefs and her being a mom to her siblings, raising babies, etc. But her midwifery training and will to do missionary work has shown me that she does have some strong beliefs besides doing things for her oversized family. Hopefully Derrick will encourage her to be more independent, have a job outside the home, and not focus her life on making babies.

But, despite these hopes, my expectation is a baby on the way within the next year. Maybe squeeze in a few t.v. plotlines, like a mission trip or something that they go on as husband and wife.

Anonymous said...

Smuggar found a girl dumber than he is at the concession stand of an ATI conference (camp). Where else? Smugette coos and puckers for kisses and worships the ground he walks on.

The soon-to-be sons-in-law (Derick and Ben) may be a bit harder to control. They have family ties outside of Gothard's world and one is educated. Should be interesting to see how these new folks adjust to such a rigid and destructive environment.

The wedding will be a Duggar circus for sure. Kids running and screaming through every scene, the awful modified gown, homemade treats that are finger licking good and of course sardines in the getaway car. We will see the Bates more than we see any relatives of the groom. Oh, and we will see the first kiss for Jill but not for Derick. Thank goodness we don't have to hear how special that is---how not to give away pieces of your heart!

Anonymous said...

A modest gown can be beautiful. I am thinking of Kate Middleton's gown. It was long sleeved and not very low cut. Jill has a slender figure too and could carry it off.

Anonymous said...

Re: Michelle's Kleinfeld alterations: if you watch the show, most brides shop one year m/l before the wedding. The Duggar clan showed up soon before this spectacle of renewing vows, dressed like a 17yr old virgin bride again was going to happen. The Kleinfeld team really didn't have time to do a spectacular job as they usually do, and MIchelle's specifications required almost half of a new dress. She should have worn a matching, tasteful bolero and lose the t-shirt look.

Anonymous said...

Do you know if Derick is part of the Dillard Family that founded Dillard's stores> I know they started in Little Rock, Arkansas.

I did see that Derick's mom also went to the University of Oklahoma.

I am thinking that Derick's family is not interested in being part of the Duggar Circus.

Anonymous said...

What a sad statement Jackson made, that he couldn't get Jill's attention anymore since Derick dame in the picture. He was so sad..shouldn't he be getting his mother or father's attention and interacting with them, not Jill so much? Shows you who are the little kids' mothers...the sister/slaves.

Mary said...

So lets see what Jill's menu for her wedding will be...Paper plates, and forks and spoons. Punch. 300 hundred
guests.. 10 chickens all cut into small pieces for everyone. 1o pounds of potates, salad,, 10 boxes of blue berriesand other fruit.. that crap they coook all the time.. Gosh I wiiiiish I could tell this young man to run run far away. and the other boyfriend.. How do these girls know what love it. these are the first boys to come along
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Anonymous said...

It will be interesting to se what kind of wedding dress Jill picks & how it is altered. When my daughter, & I went shopping for her bridal gown, along with my mom &( my cousin, who she was extremely close to,) the first store & the fist dress were just awesome. She looked beautiful & the gown fit perfectly. It was a beautiful princess dress with daisy's all over it. It fit perfectly & I couldn't imagine anything else. However, my daughter did let us know, in the very nicest way, that perhaps we should continue our search. I then realized that she was looking for an elegant, sophisticated bridal gown, not something that could be worn for a formal dance. We did find the perfect gown & it wasn't a "little girl's princess dress," it was for an adult, elegant, woman. I've never been sorry that she picked out what she wanted, not what the rest of us were thinking would be perfect. Every time I see her wedding pictures, I know she was right in her choice. I was still thinking of her as a little girl but she was now an adult woman, with excellent taste.

Anonymous said...

I would never put an ounce of blame for the way Michelle's dress from Kleinfelds turned out. on the staff of that store They were faced with an impossible task. In the first place, the vow renewal was scheduled for a later date, but Michelle discovered she was pregnant & moved the date up. Then, they went shopping for the dress. I always thought she should have just had one of those bolero jackets, instead of redoing the dress. But of course, they did have to accommodate Jim Bob's request for the "puffy sleeves." They really had an impossible task.

Missy said...

I was thinking about Jill picking out a wedding dress. Except for Josh & Anna wedding, where they have served as bridesmaids with dresses were that were homemade, I don't think we've ever seen them in a formal gown. So it will be interesting to see what they think is an appropriate bridal gown.

Special Ed Lady said...

They might serve tater tot casserole

Anonymous said...

anyone see that wedding dress that jill tried on last night it was awful on her. hopeful she can do better. Jessa did have a nice hair style expect it made her look like a ten year old. these girls need to cute their hair and style it nice. not the way jim bod wants them to have it. Hope derrick and jill move far away from the family.

Csnee317 said...

I keep thinking how sad it is that because of their beliefs on music and dancing, they don't even get to have a first dance or the daddy/daughter or mother/son dance at the wedding. You could really tell that Derrick and Jill wanted to kiss so badly after the engagement. My husband watched the show with me last night and I was telling him about Derick going to OSU and being a regular guy. My hubby was like "who are those girls, what the heck they have chaperones?" Yup. A 25 and 23 year old have chaperones. Sometimes a really young one too. Which to me is such a mockery that you have to have a 10 year old sibling watch you. I am also so sick of the side hug.

Rudy Tecat said...

Jill's dress may just turn out to be Michelle's Vowal Renewal dress, altered by Michael Bates... and the same with Jill's dress and Jana's dress and Jinger's... unless JB can pull off a miracle and find one cheap at some farm auction.

Anonymous said...

Oh my God, if the dress Jill tried on, in last night episode is any indication of what she will end up with, it will be terrible. She looked like a marshmallow on steroids. She was way to small to have so much dress. You couldn't even see her in that dress.

hello said...

What I dont understand is, Jimboob and Michelle trust their kids enough to raise their siblings, but dont trust them enough to be alone with someone of the opposite sex. Do they think if they hug or kiss it will automatically lead to sex? I find it ridiculous that a 23 year old woman and a 25 year old man are being chaperoned by a 10 year old kid. Jimboob and Michelle said more than once that they went "too far" while they were dating but were both virgins when they married. I think it all goes back to the fact that Michelle dated some boys before Jimboob swooped in and saved her. She probably hugged and kissed some of those boys and Jimboob cant get over that and to this day makes sure Michelle feels guilty about it. I believe that is why the girls are "encouraged" to marry the first guy who comes along and shows interest. Jessa and especially Jill are acting like young teenagers with their first crush.

Anonymous said...

The honeymoon plans should not include sleeping bags on the floor of an aquarium. Smugger and Smuggette tried this and it didn't work out for them. They thought the aquarium had a private room for them? Their sheltered life did not teach them that these opportunities to sleep with the sharks are for kid groups.....that mistake showed me just how dumb they are....and the cameras were rolling.....

Anonymous said...

Jill and Pistol Pete will probably have tater tot casserole somewhere in the mix. Do they know how to fix anything else?

Sara said...

I really don't think Jessa is a nice person. She is probably the kind of Christian that mocks the less fortunate behind their backs after serving them. JMO of course, but I think we have seen Jessa unfiltered lately.

On the other hand, I think Jill and Derick are darling and I sure as heck don't care if they save their first kiss till marriage.

Too many young people hooking up these days and I think it is tasteless.

Sara Beth

Anonymous said...

This is what I'm waiting for: Derick's parents bring a good quality CD player to the reception and has her Mother/Son wedding dance with her son. Why should she be deprived of such a loving moment just to accommodate these people? Everyone seems to bend over backwards to "cover up, not wear pants, etc." for these people, It's about time they realized they were the odd ones. I'd pay money to see Derick waltz with his mother at HIS wedding..

Beth said...

People are different and customs are different. They won't feel they missed out on a thing by not dancing at the wedding reception because that isn't customary for them. It wasn't customary where I grew up either so it seems very odd to me that people keep getting hung up on booze and dancing.

Anonymous said...

I hope Jill gets a real hairdresser for the wedding day, and not a do it yourself curling iron style like Anna had. Maybe a makeup artist too.

Anonymous said...

In my experience, Baptist don't dance, so I doubt his mom is planning a mother son dance.

sandi said...

At this point I think Jill would be better off hoping down the aisle in a potato sack!
Why not? Michelle looks like she stepped off a remote chicken farm in those awful black tights,and horrible shoes and skirts.Jill would go right along with her as far as matching that theme.jmo.

Wampascat said...

Rogers, AR , where Derick has his job is about 15 miles from Springdale (Duggar Compound) so that makes me think that is Jim Bob's house they're moving into. Very disappointing.

Glass Dishes said...

I think Jill has pretty hair, i also think she looks pretty just the way she is. She could pick out a simple and modest dress the way Erin Bates did. No Got Hard cake please. To me both Jill and Derrick look happy...I hope she does learn some things from her MIL and i am so happy to hear that her MIL wants to "spoil"her...i would love to have Jill as my daughter inlaw,JMO. So good luck to the happy couple!

Anonymous said...

I think it would be awesome to have the OSU Pistol Pete show up at the wedding reception. It wouldn't be cheap for him to come 200 miles one way, but it'd be worth it.

Anonymous said...

I wonder if jill will be getting a free dress like her mom from Kleinflieds in New York.

Anonymous said...

I hope the girls do not give each other those horrible home perms and use the curling iron. Anna's hair was so awful at her wedding that I couldn't believe Josh would even want to be near her. I wouldn't go out of the house looking like that.

Elvira said...

The house they are moving into is located in Rogers (where Derick's mom lives). Isn't Wal Mart HQ in Bentonville?

Anonymous said...

I didn't read every post but did anyone notice a television in Derick's house? I wasn't really paying attention.

Anonymous said...

Not true. Someone posted a link to Arkansas public tax records. JB & mush had taxes listed as owing/due.

Anonymous said...

True. The house is in Rogers and Walmart is in Bentonville. I'm glad that they are going to be nearer to Derick's mom.

Wrigley said...

Derick DOES dance. He has danced, as Pistol Pete, with many a bride at weddings. Also, he was the university mascot - of course he has danced A LOT! That's what mascots do! But, I'm sure JB won't allow it, especially if he (TLC) is paying for the wedding!

Shoka's Understudy said...

Derik needs to come up with a plan for the car that him and Jill will leave in to avoid the Dugg Thugs trashing the wedding getaway car. He could get someone to drop him off at the church and have a fake car set in front of the church to get Dugg Thugged. THEN when they go out and see the messed up car, just walk past it and get into a different car, that was parked backed up to a wall. Then you could of had a cute sign across the back that said Just Married. Then drive the car near the Thuggers and Jill could roll the window half way down and say Bye! And drive away! The looks on the Duggars would be UBER priceless! Shock and Awe! Now the wedding reception! I hope they have a full service chinet plates, silverware, glasses like a NORMAL wedding reception` Can you see the smaller kids breaking plates, glasses, stabbing each other with the silverware, sitting on the decorated tables, pulling the tablecloths off! Jim Bob and Michelle deserve this! Their true parenting would come out!

Hopefully, Derik will dance with Jill at the wedding. All he has to do is go over to her and get her hand and walk her out to the middle and just front hug her and barely sway. Maybe do a turn. What would JimBob do? Tackle him? Call the lawyers for an annulment? Can't wait for Michelle to find out the first spoiling her MIL does for Jill. I have 3 sons and they have degrees. My oldest has his Ed.Specialist and has a high salary. My second son has a Bachelors and is now a supervisor in IT and is getting another higher promotion. My youngest is working on his Assoc. He works full time. It was so awful when JB asked him how he was going to support Jill. Does that mean that Jill is not getting her money from the show? Get an attorney Jill. It is your money, not your parents money.

Dar said...

I don't think for one minute that Derrick is stupid. He is appeasing JB until married. JB has a nerve asking him how he is going to support Jill. She and her siblings have been supporting him and Michelle for a very long time. If Jill is not working at Midwifery and she is going out with the family for various appearances and spending all her time on "set", he is within his rights to ask for her "salary" if she is, in fact, under his protection. JimBob might be shocked what will happen when men come into that family who don't follow Gothard. The mates of the girls just might take legal action to retrieve every cent their wives made over the past ten years. One can hope. It would be poetic justice. Big mouth JimBob showing off on television drilling Derrick, a college graduate, who has a real job.

Missy said...

RE: Shokas Understudy's comments Excellent point, about the fact that if, Jill was getting her fair share of the, TLC money for the "ministry/show" JB wouldn't need to ask Derick how he was going to support her. Also, what idiot asks an accountant, (CPA?)how he is going to support his wife? My guess they will be fine without JB, & therein lies the problem.

Anonymous said...

Re: Derick's dancing...Why should JB have priority over dancing at the wedding? If you don't believe in dancing, DON'T. I'm tired of everyone else having to alter THEIR ways for this family. If he was Pistol Pete, his family has no problem with dancing. I certainly hope that his mother isn't going to miss out on a once in a lifetime opportunity to dance with her son at his first wedding reception. Tough luck,Duggars, it's Derick's family's occasion, too. Jill should support that. She doesn't have to dance with her dad, but she will look ridiculous if she doesn't...the Duggars need to see how "out to lunch" they really are.

Anonymous said...

I like the idea of outsmarting the Duggar boys in trashing the car at the wedding. I am sure Derick and his male friends can do this easily.

Anonymous said...

I bet they dance. If not at the wedding reception, then at other events with Derick's family.

hello said...

I wonder how much money the girls made from their book. Since they are legally adults I wonder if they were allowed to negotiate the contract or if daddy did it for them and somehow had the money go to him. If so will the money go to their husbands when they get married since these women need an "authority figure" to take care of them and their sole purpose in life is to cook, clean, satisfy their man and get pregnant as often as possible.

lisa van amerongen said...

I'm thinking pickles will be used as the appetizer. Then tater tot casserole as the main course.

sandi said...

I have a idea for the reception..tater tot casserole on a stick.First a meatball,then a tot,and square of cheese to top it off.Would be much better than the ham and olive at Erin's wedding.

Hailey Wall said...

Not dancing at weddings is actually fairly common. At least half the weddings I've been to haven't had one - but they have still been fun celebratory occasions. Just because it's not normal to you doesn't mean it's not normal or wrong.

Shoka's Understudy said...

Hopefully when Deriks mother finds out that the food will be served on paper plates and paper forks, paper ect, cheap cheese on a toothpick, she will put her foot down. Wow. I hope Deriks mother puts JB and Michelle in their place. Them all going to the airport to meet Derik was ridiculous. Just like the girls book tour, they were ALL THERE. Do they get paid each individually for time on each episode. I cant imagine what will happen when the 2 weddings are over with and JB or will it be Michelle overseeing the courting of the boys? WHAT ABOUT JANA???

Shoka's Understudy said...

Remember how JB was the Masters of Ceremonies of Josh and Anna's wedding. AND the long awaited kiss, here it comes, the camera got close but no cigar. They did not show them kissing. I never saw it. I hope Derik's mom and husband can override every Dugger rule they can about the wedding. I wonder if he will be brazen enough to tell Derik that he cannot dance with Jill at the wedding reception. JB needs to keep his mouth shut.

Crazy Eyes said...

Although no one but TLC and the Duggars know how much money changes hands/episode, I just hope there is some provision in it for profit-sharing with the kids. After all, THEY are the one's who made the show possible. Without the kids, JB&M were unremarkable, poor Arkansans. I hope $$ has been set aside in trust for each kid (escape $?) and that each one knows about it and how/when they can access it.

hello said...

I wouldnt put it past Jimboob to have the money set up in his name. I don't think any of the kids would think to question him about the money or to demand their fair share. They have been trained and brainwashed to obey Jimboob and Michelle about everything and not to question them. If Jimboob does have control of all the money, I would love to see one of the kids hire a lawyer and sue for their fair share. I wonder if the girls were allowed to negotiate the contract for their book or if Jimboob did it.
I believe Jimboob and Michelle will make Jill and Derrick's all about them. Jimboob will be sure to let everyone know that jill saved her first kiss for marriage. I have a feeling Derrick's kissed a girl or two so maybe it won't be as awkward of some of the other first kisses they have shown. I wonder if Jimboob or Michelle will be the one to give Jill "the talk". Will they give her the Lego comparison and the tape to listen to on her way to her honeymoon?

Dar said...

Crazy eyes, I don't know if there are any legal obligations for reality parents to "share" with the children they are exploiting. It would be nice to think that there is something put away for them. I have a lot of trouble believing Jim Bob did that. He would certainly garner a lot of respect if he did, in fact, provide for them. He is such a controller and loves it, that is seems dubious. I would love it if one of these TV people, like GMA, would ask him some hard questions, instead of providing he and Michelle a stage to promulgate their stupidity. He is certainly not going to turn money over to the spouses of his children, even though he will be turning over the responsibility of his girls. Money is far more precious than the "flowers" he and Michelle produced.

Anonymous said...

Why can't Derick and Jill rent a limo to take them to and from church to reception and then to the honeymoon spot? The Duggars couldn't mess up a rented limo, the driver wouldn't let them.And if I were Derick I would have one of my friends take care of my car in case the Duggars tried to mess it up after the wedding.

Amanda said...

Anonymous mentioned the idea that maybe Jill & Derick getting the house is a way of giving her some of the TLC money. I had that exact same thought, although I do think that the girls are getting money from the show. Either directly to them or by being allowed to spend large amounts of the family's money. They have a lot of clothes, coffee, etc that makes it seem like they have money to spend. And iPhones for everyone, so they do get plenty of perks that most 20something children living at home do not.
And as far as I know Jill is the only one who actually has a job, so the other girls are getting plenty of spending money somehow.
It would be pretty cool if Jill gets the house, or even just the ability to rent the house cheaply for a few years, as a gift. In a way it would almost be like repaying her for all her years of work for the show that she's done (the interviews and such) that she may not have any compensation for. Plus Derick won't have much in saving since he's been a missionary the last two years, and they probably don't want to actually purchase a home if they hope to move overseas.

And as far as the dress goes, I think that Jill is going to end up with something that looks good. While a lot of the modified dresses we've seen have looked terrible... Jill won't have to purchase a cheapo dress so she can find a Kate Middleton style modest dress or have one made custom for her. Plus the Duggars girls seemed to have forged the way with dressing attractively yet modestly, so maybe they'll be the ones to bring attractiveness to the wedding dress arena?

This will be the first time seeing a Duggar daughter pick a wedding dress, so it'll be interesting to see the outcome!

Anonymous said...

I don't believe for a minute that the girls negotiated the deal for their book. That was Jim Bob, all the way. Nothing more for he & Michelle to write about at this point, so the girls had to come up with a book, but as far as the money goes, no way does it go the girls. I believe Jim Bob, is pocketing all the monies that come into that family & nobody would think to question him about it. Has anyone ever seen, anyone question him seriously about anything?

Anonymous said...

Renting a limo would be "too high end" for these "simple Duggars", Yeah, they have that big ass motor home, school bus, vehicles up the ying yang. I would hate to be the clerk that has to help Jim Bob at the tag office come plate renewal time! Probably takes all afternoon. A limo would be the sensible thing to do; the wedding party might be able to ride with them, like normal people do.

Anonymous said...

Derick seems like a very smart guy. I hope he already has something planned for the car trashing. JD's bubble was burst when he couldn't do more to the Paine's vehicle since it was a rental and I can imagine what would be done to Derick and Jills car if it isn't a rental or limo.

Stephanie said...

Immature at its best. Look John David we know you are a 25 year old virgin, you dont have to act like one. Act like a gentleman and stop being ao jealous.

Anonymous said...

Legally, a large percentage of the money the children earn from the show has to go into a special account so the adults around them can not rob them blind. This is an industry standard. They will receive the money once they reach a specified age.

Etiquette Lady said...

Does anyone know if the wedding invitation for Jill & Derick's wedding being circulated online is in any way accurate? If it is they are really showing that they are truly, "hicks" so sorry to write that, don't want to offend others. They should be using everyone's full nane not nicknames. I believe Jim Bob's name is actually; James Robert. Also, although you do list his deceased dad, you don't list him first. It should be, son of: Mr & Mrs John Jones, and the late Robert Smith. In other words, his moms current name with her husband, but honoring his late dad. There are so many other abbreviations in that invitation, I can't believe it really the one they sent out. Don't forget Michelle is big on etiquette, remember the etiquette dinner?

Anonymous said...

I hope Jill's wedding gown doesn't have some God-awful wool scarf wrapped around her neck and those cheap headbands and overgrown flowers in her hair. So not the occasion for that. Unfortunately these people see beautiful lace sleeves as immodest too. Duchess Kate's gown, even with a higher "V" neckline wouldn't be modest enough for them because you could see her upper arms and shoulders through that beautiful lace.
One piece of advice, Jill, I hope you left your parents at home when you wedding gown shopped because they BOTH have terrible taste in clothing.

Beth said...

Legally, a large percentage of the money the children earn from the show has to go into a special account so the adults around them can not rob them blind. This is an industry standard. They will receive the money once they reach a specified age.

This is completely untrue. Reality performers do NOT fall under the guild standards that require this. Also there are no laws covering child performers such as the Cali law that you are probably referencing. Only three states have such laws: CA, NY, and PA. The parents are required to put nothing in trust in AR.

Anonymous said...

I am not a lawyer, just a paralegal, but I believe Beth is absolutely correct, about the monies earned from the show, & probably the book. Laws governing child performers, in reality shows definitely, go by the state where you live. It does appear, that there is no such law in the state of AR. We really only know about PA, because of the Gosselin mess.

Allison said...

They should be using everyone's full nane not nicknames.

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When my cousin got married, they listed her nickname, not her birth name, because she doesn't go by it and has never really used it. You can use a nickname if it's the more familiar name. Plus I don't think Jill's wedding is going to be particularly formal.

However, I do think it's strange they didn't include Derick's step-father, but it might be that Derick is not particularly close to him. His father passed when he was in college, and we don't know how long Cindy has been married to the new guy.

Needless to say, there are many ways to do things that don't follow "etiquette" but that meets the level of what the family is comfortable with.

Anonymous said...

If Derick's step dad helped to raise him from a very young age then I think it would be appropriate to list him on the invitation. Derick's was in college when his dad passed and I'm not sure when his mom re-married. It would have been nice to include him but who knows....he may be okay one way or the other.

Anonymous said...

I wonder if Josh is on his way out of his DC job. He and Anna are certainly spending way to much time at the Dugger Compound. Speaking of Josh there hasn't been much interaction between him and Derick, at least on Camera. Can our Joshie feel intellectually challenged since Derick is a College Grad while Joshie is only a homeschooled high school certificate grad. Notice how Joshie acts superior and stand offish around Ben treating him like a pion around the almighty Joshie. Joshie is and always has been a big jerk. Maybe Derick will just ignore him so he will go away. Derick doesn't seem like the gun toting treating woman as subservient type of guy. He is definitely a romantic. I hope Derick educates Jill and shares with Jill all the wonderful things the world has to offer them. I hope Jill sees there's more than the gothard lifestyle to live by.

Dawn Oand said...

To Derick, Park a secret get-away car in the church parking lot the morning of your wedding. Drive your car to the wedding later in the day when you arrive for the wedding. After your car is wrapped in stretch wrap and filled with trash and smelly things, walk over to the secret get away car and drive your bride away to your honeymoon. The joke will be turned on them!!!

Anonymous said...

TLC did show Josh and Anna kissing at their wedding, but JB had to make a speech first.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZyZFtRh600

Anonymous said...

Josh can't hold a candle to Derick intellectually. You may hear Josh make comments about Derick when Josh is doing the talking head portions of the show, but he's can't even complete a simple declarative sentence, so don't look for any real conversation between Josh & Derick. Derick will make Josh look like an idiot.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said on 6/11/14: Speaking of Josh there hasn't been much interaction between him and Derick, at least on Camera. Can our Joshie feel intellectually challenged ....

Maybe interaction between Derick and Josh isn't shown on camera because we will see how intellectually challenged Josh is when with Derick.

Anonymous said...

In reply to Dawn Oand. That would be a good plan if not for one problem. Who is going to clean the trashed car? If sardines and who knows what else are in there, the vehicle will smell mighty ripe by the time Derick and Jill get back from their honeymoon
A trashed car to me wouldn't be as much a problem if there is no smelly stuff in there.
10 more days until the wedding!

Anonymous said...

I was looking through one of Jill and Derick's FB fan pages and saw a recent picture of her in a beige somewhat fitted dress and it is sleeveless! I think she looks nice in it and gives me some hope that her wedding dress will be just as flattering if not more.

Debbie said...

Jill is our girl. She's the child who spent the lion's share of the time talking to the camera over the years. Her sweet nature and earnest ways have endeared her to all of us. I'm so glad she's the first daughter getting married. That way they will make a fuss over her and she deserves that. She could easily have gotten pushed to the background if her wedding was 4th or 5th.
I too love Jana who is being a good sport about everyone getting married around her. God must have special plans for her future spouse/family, as He's making her wait.
Re: "decorating" the car, wise up and hide your car. Have a family member drive you to and from the venue. That's what we did.

Anonymous said...

Has anyone checked out Jill & Derick's Walmart Wedding Registry. I thought wedding registrys were set up so people can give you gifts for your new home. Since when is guns & ammo become an appropriate wedding gift. Also check out the $2,300.00 Murray riding lawn mower. Please people, this is not right. These people need some serious help. Starting to think that Derick is also screwed up in the head.

Anonymous said...

Re the Walmart registry. Not much has been bought from the that registry anyway. Who knows it may be a prank from a family member so I'm not looking too much into it.

Anonymous said...

It looks like those were add ons to the registry. I don't remember seeing them a couple of weeks ago and not much is being purchased on the Walmart registry compared to BB&B anyway Just speculating but it could very well be a prank by someone in the family that got hold of their password. If not then I guess anything goes on registries now a days.

Anonymous said...

I'm a little sick and tired of those stupid pranks that this inane family thinks is funny. If these registry items are indeed a joke, and not from Jill and Derick, they should have the ladies post it on their family blog website. I'm under the impression that they are serious, which leads me to drop my opinion down of them even more.

Wampascat said...

They have also added a tent , bikes, sleeping bags, a keyboard, basketball hoop, foosball table, ping pong table, gun safe, 4 boxes of ammo, a camcorder, cereal and ramen noodles. Many of the new items have been purchased. I think it's the ultimate in tackiness to keep adding items to your registries days before the wedding and it's greedy beyond belief. Jill is showing she is truly her Father's daughter and Derick is proving he is no better than the pack of hypocrites he's marrying into.

hello said...

I am surprised they didn't register at a grocery store for tater tot casserole ingredients in industrial sizes, because you can count on Jimboob, Michelle and the entire Duggar clan showing up for dinner for a future episode. Maybe cousin Amy will show up to make a baby carriage out of a watermelon so they can announce that they are expecting. I don't believe for a minute that they will be traveling to do missionary work. I just hope that Jill doesn't get as upset as Anna did when she wasn't pregnant within weeks of getting married.

Anonymous said...

I'm surprised their wedding website doesn't suggest donations to Jill and Derrick's favorite humanitarian organizations. Jill surely already has a significant nest egg from her book and her parents can well afford to buy her anything she could possibly need or want for her new home. On the other hand, it shouldn't be so surprising given that Jim Bob is a shrewd businessman and is still running the show, so to speak.

roddma said...

Re:Dancing at wedding
True, you can have a wedding with no dancing. HWoever, the Duggars see it as lewd and don't give the kids choices in such matters..

Anonymous said...

If they will do missionary work then I don't see them doing it any time soon. Derick has a new job and IF Jill continues with her midwifery it will be a few years before she completes it. I think I heard the midwife she is assisting say that Jill had another two years of apprenticing. If they have a little one within the next year then yeah, it will be a while if they do any missionary work.

Anonymous said...

re: roddma and dancing...they don't have to have "rock and roll "dancing, but there is nothing lewd about couples, waltz-like ballroom dancing at a wedding reception. It is very elegant and respectable to have such music at a reception and couples (married if they like) dance together, starting with Derick and Jill. They are mixed up people, IMO.

Anonymous said...

First, I'm definitely not fundie. I'm liberal Catholic. I do understand that many southern and especially Baptist weddings don't throw a big shindig reception. It's normal for them. I don't think Jill will think she's missing out on anything and since she's apparently Southern Baptist herself, I doubt Derick's mother is going to think it's odd either. It's very, very normal for their group and their area.

Sharla said...

TLC is giving up pretending that they are simply catching reality.

Derick has a rehearsal for proposing to Jill.

http://www.tlc.com/tv-shows/19-kids-and-counting/videos/dericks-proposal-rehearsal.htm

Anonymous said...

I would like to know if this show has turned into a sitcom (ala Ozzie and Harriet, where they use their real names, but scripts are written) or is this a documentary reality type show that videos the every day comings and goings of such a large family with strict beliefs? I think TLC and the Duggars are attempting to paint a certain picture, which I don't appreciate. Tell it like it is, TLC, warts and all.

Anonymous said...

I cannot believe how such an obscene amount of over the top items are listed on the registry. Where are they going to store all these multiple sets of linens, pillows, pots and silverware? Any nice thoughts I had of her and her husband to be are gone. Rifles, tents, tools, sports equipment, riding lawn mowers, foosball tables, ping pong tables...good grief, how greedy they seem. They must be spending hours and hours of trolling Walmart and zapping items. Has no one clued them in on how this registry has become a travesty of poor taste? I don't want to hear any more talk of thrift store runs.

Anonymous said...

Except that Derrick DOES dance. He has danced in the Pistol Pete costume for sure. Why wouldn't he want to dance at his own wedding??

Anonymous said...

I thought that there could have been some kind of rehearsal because the proposal was filmed with Michelle or JB being somewhat involved but I never thought like this. Jana, Joy Anna and Derick's mom were also there but one of the crew asked Michelle to take the part of Jill. In one short sequence I thought Michelle was almost dancing while they were walking towards the singer. This part irked me...Derick said that while he and Jill are walking in the park he was going to grab JIll's shoulder to stop and I couldn't believe that right after he said Mullet told him I give you permission to grab her shoulder. What the !@#! A 26 year old man does not need your permission. She sure is milking the rules for all its worth up until Jill and Derick are married. After that I would love Derick to tell Michelle to (add your own words here, lol!)

Anonymous said...

I can understand rehearsing the proposal to get the timing down especially with multi parties being involved. It was very nice watching the actual proposal so I don't see why TLC needed to film the rehearsal. And J'chelle that loves attention needed to be involved. I just can't with her.

Anonymous said...

Derick put his arm around Jill from when they first met and he has continued to do that. He was telling everyone what was going to happen and wasn't looking for permission. That frontal hug he and Jill had must still be bothering Michelle so she had to jump in after and say that he has her permission.

Anonymous said...

Normal people don't rehearse a proposal in the town square with a film crew and then film the actual proposal as it if "just happened." The show isn't reality. It's staged and it's time the Duggars quit pretending otherwise.

Anonymous said...

Dancing outside church is one thing while dancing in the church hall is entirely different.

Anonymous said...

I agree that the "rehearsal" was appalling and no one does or needs a rehearsal with the family to practice. Derick should have arranged it with the musician like any other guy would have done, and YES, asking for permission to touch her shoulder was disgusting. I'm so full of Michelle I can't stand it, who was standing under an umbrella for two, while her daughters barely had room under that little one, she's such a selfish bitch. Derick must be one idiot to put up with their crap. He is a man of 25 who has accomplished more than any of her children will ever in their lifetimes because of the barriers that are put in their way by their parents.

Anonymous said...

I just looked at the wedding gift registry at bed bath and beyond. That is a lot of stuff! What happened to " buy used and save the difference"? They are only two people,the amount of stuff on just one registry( that has been purchased) is enough for 3 homes!

roddma said...

Re:Waltzes
I agree there is nothing wrong with waltzes but I gather the Duggars think any type of dancing whether rock or waltzes defrauds. The seemed to have a problem with clogging.

Alberta Rose said...

Regarding the proposal rehearsal, I lasted until Michelle was standing beside Derick. I couldn't stomach seeing him doing a mock proposal to his future MIL. To me it seems incestuous.

Anonymous said...

They think all dancing leads to impure thoughts, how sad. In most cultures, dancing is a way to express joy, and happiness. In fact, many weddings feature folk dancers from the couples country/culture, such as Greek, Russian, Indian, African, Irish, Chinese,Israeli. There is nothing sexual or inappropriate about that. How sad the Duggar's are, they have traveled the world and are still narrow minded.

Anonymous said...

How can waltz-like couples dancing at a wedding reception, in front of God and country, between married people be defrauding? They are looney beyond belief.

Anonymous said...

Anyone remember the "Etheopian restaurant" with the cultural dancing? Remember the African American church with really great band? The obvious level of uncomfort and wide eyed shock of this family was priceless! The family was put on the spot with the African-style costumed dancers and didn't know where to look! Also, at the church, Josh, trying to clap in time with the beat of the music was classic...some musical training he has, his "timing" was off by a mile...such fake look of approval and enjoyment. How could a drum set in a church be Godly, when JB bans such percussion instruments because they "defraud" and bring on sexual thoughts... he is a weirdo, in my book. They are all about sex.

Beth Anne said...

Re: "And J'chelle that loves attention needed to be involved."

Yes, yes, yes. Full disclosure here, I have a psychology background and do personality assessments for my work. I could likely write a book about the Duggars, but I had to share an observation about something (among many things) that has always irritated me about Michelle.

She gets fawned over, for sure, by many "fans" and people who throw compliments her way. "You look so great for having had so many babied!" "I can't believe how young you look!" Each and every time I've seen this on camera, Michelle has done her high-pitched, baby-voiced "Ohhh, ohhh, giggle giggle giggle."

Yet, she does NOT say thank you in response.

Seriously, she kind of giggles and does the "oh, oh" because she is TRYING to act sweet and modest. Yet, if you were truly humbled by a compliment directed your way, you would typically utter a thank you in response. To me, it's an act. She acts overwhelmed with gratitude for the compliment, but deep down she feels she deserves it. That's why she doesn't say thank you in response.

Anonymous said...

I hope they have some decent food for the guests at the wedding. They are very stingy with food, I don' t understand that, they could easily pay for at least a nice buffet meal for the guests. At the Bates wedding they had to go to a nearby restaurant after the reception to eat dinner. I have never been to a wedding like that.

Anonymous said...

I know many have wondered what church Jill & Derick will be married in, or if they will have an outdoor wedding. What was the huge church that they had the huge funeral for Jubilee in? There were certainly a lot of people there for that. What's all this nonsense, that Michelle is writing about, regarding how the family will be reduced with Jill gone from the home. Guess what, Michelle, that's exactly what's supposed to happen in life. You raise your children to become adults, & then they go out& make their own way in the world & you are happy for them, to be starting on a new chapter of their lives. It's not like your house will be exactly totally empty. You won't be wandering from empty room to empty room, looking for some hobby to take up, now that one daughter and one son, out of nineteen are gone from the home.

Beth said...

Don't expect the Duggars to follow a societal norm other than their own for the wedding reception. Mid-afternoon receptions of their kind do not serve full meals and almost none of their guests will expect a full meal. It's deliberately timed between meals so everyone knows it's only appetizers at most. To go out to eat after the wedding would be perfectly normal to them and to their guests.

Leigh Ann said...

" Anonymous said...

Except that Derrick DOES dance. He has danced in the Pistol Pete costume for sure. Why wouldn't he want to dance at his own wedding??"

Because Baptist weddings usually don't have dancing. I've been a Baptist all my life. I dance (badly but that's beside the point). I went to a Baptist college. We had dances and they had great attendance. All my friends danced. I have been to bunches of Baptist weddings and I've never been to one that had dancing. Even when the reception was at a country club or somewhere other than the church, there was no dancing. I went to a huge Baptist wedding, a good 1,500 guests. The reception was at the bride's parents' huge home in the backyard. There was a string ensemble playing music. There was still no dancing, even with music present. It's just not usually part of a Baptist wedding, even if the couple and other guests like to dance. Now that's not to say there is never dancing at a Baptist wedding as Baptists do run the gamut, but it's not the norm. Maybe in another generation when my grandparents' generation (no dancing, no drinking, no cards, no fun) is gone. Why wouldn't Derick want to dance at his own wedding? For the same reason he doesn't dance in church even though other churches feature dancing. It's just not part of the Baptist tradition. It's probably never crossed his mind.

Anonymous said...

Seventeen Kids and Counting Down. Nope, the grandkids don't count because in case you lost track, Michele did not deliver them all.

Yes, Michelle. Those of us whose children have flown the nest know that it hurts, but we keep it to ourselves because we want them to fly away. It means we did our jobs successfully. So buck up and pretend to be perfectly happy. Where's that Joyous Attitude? I was able to find it and I even went to public school.

Anonymous said...

Did Jill get her dress at Kleinfeld's? I guess we will have to wait til next season to see the wedding.

Leigh Ann said...

Yep, Baptist wedding are typically in the middle of the day and the reception is cake and punch/coffee/tea and maybe a few finger foods. If the reception is not at the church and no relatives will pass out from shock there may be champagne for a toast. Every Baptist wedding I've been to (tons just in my family) that's all the reception has been. When my grandmother got remarried in her 80s she had the ceremony at noon and had a sit-down luncheon at a restaurant afterward but there were also only 15 guests. And she had champagne, too, I couldn't believe it. None of us could!

Leigh Ann said...

How about "Two Down and 17 To Go"? Ha!

Anonymous said...

Just saw pictures of the bouquets being made on one of their FB fan pages. Soft colors of peach and mint green which is supposedly is her color scheme. Hopefully the BMs dresses will be just as pretty. Looking forward to seeing JIll's wedding gown and hope pictures will be posted somewhere. Please Michelle, do not wear black stockings and your croc shoes. I think Derick's mom will be classily dressed.

Anonymous said...

Ya'll are not going to believe this but, there is another BB&B Registry up now for fine china. When is this circus going to end. What little respect I had for this family (and I mean very little) is gone. Jesus don't like greedy Duggars.

taurus0385 said...

Seen a post from one of the fan pages of the bridal party. They have 2 ring bearers and 4 flower girls. And josh is no where in the wedding party but Anna is. Figure that one out.

Anonymous said...

I'm quite sure the "bridal package" that Michelle will give Jill includes case of "EPT" early pregnancy testers, as Jim Bob and Michelle will be tapping their foot waiting for the "big announcement" from tomorrow morning on.

Anonymous said...

Re: Alberta Rose's comment: The rehearsal proposal,was filmed by agreement with Duggars & TLC. If the mock proposal to Michelle seemed incestuous to you, talk to Michelle, she was loving it and all the attention. The whole mock proposal was just ridiculous, but it was exactly, a "Duggar Show," all the way.

Anonymous said...

I was devastated to learn that Derick's mom is so ill. So sorry about that. Guess Michelle will be able to take over as "The Mother," now that his mom is so very ill. I can't even bring myself to write what I think Michelle must be thinking, about Derick's mom not being able to be in the picture.Again, it's all, THE DUGGARS!

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