Is It Time for the Duggars to Get Away from TLC

Has the time arrived for the Duggars to run before they become "Gosselinized?" Is it already too late or do they yet retain themselves?

Things I've found worrisome:
Going to Kleinfeld to what appeared to me put on the country hayseed act for TLC.
More trips than usual.
Changes in clothing (maybe for the better though)
Michelle and the girls and the product placements (doing the required commercials)

Jon Gosselin said it was like living in a storybook for four years. Are the Duggars becoming or have they become a storybook?

54 comments:

CappuccinoLife said...

Although I love the Duggars and have little criticism for the way they live their life, I do think they would benefit hugely from stepping way back, or completely out of, the TLC machine.

I think in 5 or 10 years, they are going to have some regrets about what came with the show.

anny said...

Has anyone heard anything else about Kelly Bates health scare after her recent delivery? Cousin Amy had supposedly requested prayer for Kelly due to what sounded like heart failure following the last birth. It is just SO DANGEROUS for a woman in her FORTIES to have a baby, and Kelly has hers at HOME!!! This may very well hold up any follow up to their home renovation. Hope she's ok.

Sherry said...

To be honest, I think it will be hard to part with TLC. I think the Duggars have grown accustomed to the perks of the show....and see it as another business venture. I'm not being critical...which one of us would not do the same thing? The extra money and opportunities the show brings to their family is most likely very beneficial.

Harriet said...

Sherry, I think that's the attitude where the deal with the devil (TLC) begins. Some of us have been in a similar circumstance and yes, we've turned away. It's basically selling your children and your life to a TV network. It may start out benign looking, but in the end it isn't. The problem is that once you're involved, it seems to very difficult to impossible for people to see when they've been inched across the line from benign to exploiting.

VillageMom said...

I, too, love the Duggar family and wish them all the best. I respect most of the decisions they make, but I have to agree that it seems time to pull the plug on being part of a weekly show.

The Kleinfeld episode is the jump the shark moment for me. Michelle would never have done that on her own, not even if she had the money. She would never have brought everyone along while trying on dresses. It was so obviously manufactured by TLC.

Go back to the yearly one hour specials.

Anny, your comment about it being "SO DANGEROUS" for a woman in her "FORTIES" to have a baby is absolutely ridiculous. Do a little research, hon.

Sue said...

I actually think that unlike the Gosselins that the show is beneficial for the Duggar kids. They are exposed to a wider variety of people from the camera crew to the people they meet on their trips than they would have been in their ATI homeschool circle which was pretty limited. Clearly the Duggars are beginning to compromise some of their principles and doing things solely for the cameras, but their ideology was so rigid before that compromise might be a good thing.
I do think that it's an enormous amount of pressure to be part of a family where good behavior is assumed at all times and setting an example for everyone is part of your job. It's impossible to keep that up over a long period of time. I keep hoping some of the older girls will take their TLC bank account and go away to college away from the cameras. That money will give them choices that they never had before. I just hope that they take advantage of it.

kidznpupz said...

I think that the Duggars actually view their work on TLC as a ministry - as a way to tell others about their beliefs and lifestyle. They tend to donate at least some of their money I think - I bet they paid for the Bates renovation. They don't seem as materialistic as the Gosselins by a long shot. I bet they will keep doing the show as long as they feel it gets their message out.

Anonymous said...

Of course the money that the show brings the family is beneficial. But I don't think that's the point. Look at what has happened to the Gosselins, and how their family is entirely shattered. Would it have happened if they had not turned into celebrities? We'll never know, but money and fame can turn some of the best people into shells of their former selves.

Personally, I see some bad changes in the Duggars since they have been on the show. The very qualities that they have said they are trying to share with their viewers, powerful and positive ones such as humility, modesty, emphasis on countenance, etc. are being lost, due to money, fame and too much exposure.

I no longer see them as moral or modest, since true modesty would keep a family out of the limelight. I think selling ones family for financial gain isn't modest either.

This is a nice family. If they get out NOW, they have a chance of saving themselves. If they stay on, for continued financial gain, they will lose everything they claim to stand for and believe in.

gettingbored said...

I think we are becoming over saturated with all things Duggar. Anna gives birth (congrats), and in less than 24 hours the birth hits youtube and TV. She'll be on the Today show Monday as well. They really are famous for nothing more than their uncontrolled fertility. That's why the contrived trips and vow renewal schtick is necessary, because without it, what is there? If the Duggars didn't have the show or the books, or the speaking engagements, or the product endorsements could they really live in the style they are now with just some commercial properties and a dusty, never open car lot?

pumpkin said...

I think that the Duggars are a stronger family unit with more extended family contact who have been around for quite awhile before they became famous than the Gosselins.

The Duggars had FOURTEEN kids before they ever had a TV special made about them. And they were able to raise, clothe, and feed (not to mention homeschool) all of these fourteen childre long before the rest of the world knew who they were. Then, babies #15, 16, and 17 had only annual or semi-annual specials. It wasn't until very recently that they had a regular weekly slot. Also, while they may only recently have been able to afford multiple cool trips, more fashionable clothing, etc. they still live fairly frugally and still visit thrift stores for the kids' furniture and clothing.

I think this separates them from the Gosselins, because Jon and Kate had cameras come into their home when they were still very new parents, as well as very newly married. They did not have the luxury of building a strong family unit prior to the camera crew's arrival. Additionally, I feel that the personality differences between the two families are vast. Jon and Kate seemed, at least by the time of their vow renewal, to be totally about the "freebies" and not about their family. I see the Duggars as graciously accepting a few "freebies" and doing the occasional product placement for cleaning supplies, but not having an entire episode devoted to a product. Even the episode at Kleinfeld was not filmed exclusively in the shop, there was a great deal of footage from the Duggar's home in Arkansas.

The Duggars are good people, and although I often disagree with their religious or political beliefs, I think they are much stronger as a married couple and as a total family and will weather anything that comes their way.

The two people that I do worry about are Josh and Anna. They, like Jon and Kate, have had cameras documenting their first steps as parents while they are still newly married. I worry that this will provide unnecessary stress during an already stressful time. My prayers are with them.

Anonymous said...

Well said, Harriet.

I also think that like, The Eight, the fact that the youngest Duggars are growing up with the lights and cameras can't help but change their world-view and their behavior. It must give one a false sense of importance when you have a cameraman or producer following you around and at times telling you to "do/say that again" to capture it for the world to see.

-Katydid

gotsomewheelsnow said...

Undoubtedly, the Duggars are a great family. One thing that shines through with them is their love for each other. They have, for the most part, held true to their beliefs; however, they are slowly but surely changing. Some change is for the better. For example, thanks to TLC's help, they have a beautiful, spacious well decorated home. I know that they had worked on the home by themselves and with others like the Wilsons for quite some time, but honestly, TLC put the great finishing touches on it. Another positive change is in the girls' clothing style.


On the negative side, they've been led on the route to Kleinfelds, where no one fit in from Michelle to the youngest person there. She was uncomfortable, the kids were uncomfortable and not too well behaved, and the TLC people were insulting about the "modesty" questions concerning the other customers. I wish the answer they'd given was something along the lines that they didn't want to judge the taste of the other people there. Instead, they tried to "rate" the modesty and came off as being somewhat judgmental.

It's just my opinion, but when a family starts doing things for a TV show that they'd never in do in the normal course of their lifestyle, then it's time to turn off the cameras.

gettingbored said...

I've also noticed that they've begun to have the kids do the annoying "Next on 18 kids and counting" routine that was so done to death by the Gosselin kids.

grace said...

I can not believe what I just saw on a TLC preview. Josh encouraging Anna through her labor and delivery, staring between her legs and telling her to push. (Sorry to be crude, but it was just so shocking.) I wonder how much money they got for that? I absolutely cannot believe that this is what it's come down to. Do they have no decency? Can they not just film an "after" shot of the proud parents, holding the newest moneymaker?

I agree that Jim Bob and Michelle are grounded enough in their marriage and parenting routine to keep this show from ruining their lives. But Josh and Anna are 21 year olds that have been filmed since day one of their marriage. And now, their daughter has been filmed since day one of her life. Every "Kodak" moment between this couple has been an episode for a tv show.

The thing that blows me out of the water about this whole situation is that the Duggars are forbidden to watch TV, yet they have a weekly TV show, and make tons of money from it. What sort of message is that sending to the kids? "Don't watch tv, it's evil. But we're going to support our family with a tv show." It's such a glaring hypocrisy!

Janeman said...

I have been following this blog for quite a while and I am an avid Duggar fan. Something that continues to be mentioned here is the change from "duggar-style" to a more modern look. What I don't think many posters are accounting for is the time interval between the first shows and the facts that the children are getting older. I know when I was 12 or 13, the outfits I chose were vastly different from the outfits I chose at 16 or 17. At 12 and 13 I chose frilly dresses with collars (I now hide this pictures-LOL!)

The oldest girl (Jana) could not have been much older than 14 when the first specials were taped. She is almost 20 now. The same goes for all of the other girls. There is a vast difference in age and style that comes with growing up and into your own style. The more modern look is a welcome change for me. It shows that women and girls can be modest, wear dresses/skirts and non-revealing clothing and still be cute and stylish. As an apostolic woman I commend these girls for keeping up with "trends" but keeping it modest.

Anonymous said...

I just want to point out that it is very possible/likely that one of the older girls did the filming. I doubt very much a camera crew was present. I think one of the girls did the filming and josh probably did the editing before it was handed over to the media.

Snap! said...

My opinion is that no parent should put their kids in front of a camera!
They deserve to grow up with privacy. The parents are only doing the show for financial gain. The kids have no say in it. The only kids I have ever seen go to the dentist are my own, the Duggars and the Gosselins. If I told relatives or good friends I want to come watch your kids at the dentist, they would think I was very strange. So why is it ok for me to see these children? TV cameras make it seem normal, when it clearly is not.

Anonymous said...

The family has changed its dress just in the last two years (look at the old photo on the TLC site from 2007). There were still jumpers in those days. It was a couple years before that when they all wore matching plaid prairie dresses.

Now, even the youngest girls have adorable and stylish toddler clothes, with leggings. They look so much more comfortable (and Johanna needs comfort for all her jumping around and hanging on things!). I think the changes are good, but it isn't simply because time has passed and the girls are older. ALL the kids dress more fashionably (including the boys, who wear name brand tshirts and sweatshirts now, as opposed to matching polo shirts).

Anonymous said...

Also, I do worry about the lack of modesty and media exposure with having Anna shown giving birth, and all those photographs circling around the internet. It just makes no sense that they claim to be so modesty conscious, and yet would allow one of the most intimate moments in a woman's life to be filmed (even if one of the sisters did the filming, and not the male film crew, it still isn't very modest to have that all over the internet).

I really think the Duggars need to examine their own beliefs, and they will see that they are now making decisions based on the show, which is exactly like the Gosselins. When a family is no longer in charge of their own decisions, it is time to get off TV.

Anonymous said...

Yes. The Duggars (JB&M and J&A) should walk away and work on their addiction to celebrity. Yes, addiction and start to build real lives away from the cameras.

Reality programs like this have a notorious track record for disaster. "An America Family" (1973), the "Seven Up" series (begun in the 1960s), J&K+8 and, inevitably, the Duggars (why should they be any different).

That said, I don't think we'll see a Duggar on "Intervention," but it's entirely possible that the kids (J&A and the other teenagers) may find the limelight (in or out) difficult to manage over time and it won't be pretty.

Please Stop SometimeSoon said...

They really are famous for nothing more than their uncontrolled fertility.
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Oh, thank you SO MUCH for saying this, "GettingBored"! I mean , comeon! I am sort of sick by the glorification of this family, and esp. what I view as the glassy-eyed brood mare, Michelle. What are her OTHER talents or contributions to either her own kids, or mankind/society in general? NOTHING And now Anna is being glorified. Shoot, I have seven kids myself, no one came knocking at my door to ask me HOW did I do it, or when the next one was due, or whatever!
I have major issue with how Michelle hands off her infants to older GIRLS to care for. Those girls didn't create those kids Michelle, you and your ridiculous husband did; now care for them yourself! I mean it's one thing for kids to have CHORES, quite another to ENSLAVE your children. And no, I do not think the word "Enslave" is an inappropriate one.
I dont' watch Today show, or any type show like that largely BECAUSE of TLC's spawn-families such as Duggar and GOsselin always bein on for basically, nothing. I dont' watch Duggar shows either, but do come on the blog now and again ...obviously.
Please go to yearly (or less often) specials and find something else to do with your life, Michelle and JimBob-start with RAISING the children you love to CREATE.
Thanks for the chance to vent!

Doris said...

I hope the Duggars stop filming.

I was very bothered by the Klienfeld dress and wedding vow renewals. It was just to close to the Gosselin scam.

When I saw that episode ad, I told my husband I am seriously thinking of emailing the Duggars and asking them to do their research. Since they watch no TV and I highly doubt they read the tabloids, there is good reason to believe they know little to nothing about what has taken place with the Gosselins.

As Christians I think (would hope) they would NOT want to have anything to do with a corporation that saw nothing wrong with helping a vicious, hateful witch destroy her family.

I like the Duggars and admire their commitment to their Lord and to their family. I don't want to see TLC (The Leach Channel) destroy their family.

They should get out while they can.

MomOfThree said...

grace said...
..."The thing that blows me out of the water about this whole situation is that the Duggars are forbidden to watch TV, yet they have a weekly TV show. It's such a glaring hypocrisy!"

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I'm glad that I am not the only person to feel they are contradicting themselves lately.

While I don't feel that they are supporting the family entirely by appearing weekly on national TV, there's no denying that the show is certainly providing them with many opportunities (monetary and more) that they would not have otherwise had the course to experience. The "no TV" rule, though, is just one of the ways they seem to contradict themselves. The Duggars seem to be able to justify things (when it suits their needs).

They aren't too keen on computer use, yet it seems to be okay to use to do the majority of the kids schoolwork on. Of course, internet use for their website and that of Josh and Anna's is alright, also.

Buying used clothing, shoes, furniture, etc is "necessary" and practical for this large family. It would be wasteful and not affordable for them to buy each child a new pair of shoes (even if they did it one child a month, at $20 each), yet it wasn't considered wasteful or unaffordable for Jim Bob to pay $70 at the Weight Watchers sign-up, not to mention the weekly dues, if he continues on the program. He is only slightly overweight (and Jana not at all) and Michelle has been a lifetime member for years. She could have attended the meetings (for free) and just put Jim Bob on the diet. He isn't doing the cooking and he eats what he is served, so it really isn't necessary for him to know the details of the WW "point system", etc. I know that they made a big point that listening to the lecturer speak each week helps a dieter stay motivated, but really, if it comes down to having to cut costs somewhere, personally (unless I was so obese that my health was at stake), my kids would be wearing fresh, new shoes long before I would be forking over money weekly for a dieter's meeting. Just my own, personal opinion....

I also feel that Michelle is contradicting herself a bit when she says that motherhood and homemaking are her greatest priorities. Certainly, she is a calm, soft-spoken mother, but she does not seem to do much nurturing, day-to-day care or schooling of the children once they are weaned (not to mention much of the household running, either). At that point, we see the next "buddy" in line take over. Of course, we don't know exactly how much Michelle is involved over the course of the day, but we have a pretty good idea from watching the show for a few years now...the girls doing the cooking, laundry, packing, schooling, holding a head over a potty when a little one is "sick". Michelle seems to be the "foreman" on the job; her daughters, the "bosses" of each buddy group. I'm not against Michelle (or anyone) choosing to have alot of children but if it requires the complete "help" of four of your late teen-aged/young adult daughters (to the exclusion of them being their own persons and persuing their own lives independently of the family) to care for both children and home, then I feel that it's time to stop having more babies. These girls (Jana, Jill, Jessa and Jinger) are not just "helping" mom around the house, as most teens do, but their presence and participation is crucial to the family's daily survival. When they went to Florida with Josh to help Anna plan her wedding, JB and Michelle were beside themselves with trying to manage the younger kids. Both parents (and Josh) commented on how much the girls were missed and needed.

I really used to make time for and enjoy watching this family "in action"; now, not so much. I don't know if it is TLC's doing or not, but (for me) the "magic" has gone out of the Duggars. I catch the shows now in re-runs, usually in the early morning when I am preparing breakfast and our lunches for the day.

Anonymous said...

Have to agree with the Grace about the TLC preview of Anna giving birth. What should have been a very private moment between Josh and Anna, they have turned into a spectator sport. I really don't need to see Anna's mother-in-law and others holding her legs up in the air so she can deliver. It also looks like this was a home birth, so the entire family was probably in the room for the event. It must really be all about the money. FYI to Anna, you can say "no" to your husband and TLC. You deserve better than this.

And why don't Michelle and the Duggar girls cut their hair and give it to Locks of Love. All that heavy stringy hair hanging down their backs all the time drives me crazy.

winsomeone said...

Michelle wouldn't allow one of her daughters to help her get into that wedding dress, but now it's okay for one of them to tape Anna when she is delivering her baby? Seems strange to me. Some things just do not need to be on national TV.

Anonymous said...

It would be good if the family were to read this blog. I wonder if they would be surprised by the reaction that viewers are having to their increasing hypocrisy. They would have to think that people are talking about them, since that is only natural to talk about those in the public eye.

Do Jim Bob and Michelle not see how they have changed, and how many of us are troubled by their enslavement of their daughters (thank you for stating that), or their hypocrisy about television and the internet?

Reality shows ruin people. It is important for this family to get away, and soon, before there is permanent damage done.

Anonymous said...

amen to everything said....

Anonymous said...

Pa Keller must have wondered what "good family" he sold off his daughter to. I cannot imagine that the good, modest Keller family would ever believe that their daughter, with her legs in the air and her husband shouting at her netherparts, would have these moments of the birth of their first grandchild broadcast on national television. Horrifying, even for a non-modest person!

pogo said...

I think the Duggars have(control) the TLC in hand. They most likely have certain, rules and regulation on when they can film and when not to. That is probably what makes the difference between the Duggars and Jon & Kate. So their staying on TV will be for as long as they wish, not TLC. Where as Jon & Kate, let TLC rule them.

Beth said...

But if they are off TV the girls will still be doing all the work. I'm not fond of the idea that they need to get off TV in order to maintain their restrictive views. I think having a spotlight on them will open up opportunities for the older girls to have more choices. A lot of the Duggar ideology requires the control of information where the kids aren't exposed to the wide variety of ideas and lifestyles possible. But having a camera crew, reporters, etc. around who may be Christian but still send their kids to college or work outside the home and are hardly evil sinners makes it harder to maintain the kind of fear necessary to keep the kids from questioning some of their parents' choices.

I totally agree that Josh and Anna should fade into the woodwork and live their lives privately. It can hardly be good for their marriage and they are unlikely to change their views at this point. And it is hypocritical to air your choices about your sex life and the birth of your child while harping on about modesty. It's as if nothing is private in this family.

Mellie said...

I hope they stop the show soon, too. I was so excited two years ago, when a weekly show was started for them because I loved the yearly specials of the Duggars; however, now I am seeing that maybe they should just go back to the occasional one hour special!

I also see the hypocrisy in various situations. I try not to judge, though, because someone looking in at my life would probablyl see several inconsistencies too. It's just human nature.

I do feel SO SO bad for Anna. I think it's great that she had a home birth. But, for it to be videotaped and aired on TLC for a 90 minute special? And, as others have mentioned, where was Anna's mother? I would think that Anna would have preferred for her mom or at least one of her own flesh and blood sisters to be there with her, rather than part of the Duggar clan.

I am such a modest person, and it appears that Anna is as well. I wouldn't even allow my husband to. I videotape the birth of my daughter, and I got so mad when the doctor left to get something and it took a few seconds for the door to completely shut. My husband nor the nurse cared, even though my legs were up in the air for anyone to see. Just then family of another patient walked by. I was furious, and my husband kept saying no one can see in here.
I hope Anna at least had some say-so in whether or not filming could be aired on TLC. Even if she did, though, Josh seems like such a manipulator that he could get her to agree....

I think it is time for the Duggars to GO. Duggars if you are reading this- LEAVE TLC AND GET BACK TO YOUR NORMAL LIVES!!!! Surely, they have a quite a bit of money saved up from the show, that they would have a lot to live off of for awhile.

It breaks my heart when I see the little ones running around with no one really paying attention to them. And poor Johannah being taped while she was sick and throwing up- what a huge LOW for the Duggar family. That is absolutely ridiculous.

I hope that these Duggar kids grow up to be healthy, happy, etc. It would be horrible if years down the road, they (younger ones especially) have emotional issues due to cameras being in their faces all the time.

Harriet said...

The sharks aren't on the horizon any more as someone else suggested. They are there in front of us. By filming the birth and showing parts of it on TV and then having a four day old baby shown on The View, they have graduated for fame whore status in my mind. Anything useful that they may have thought to accomplish is being wiped out by now obviously dancing to the TLC tune of make the talk shows, make a splash for ratings, etc.

Make TLC millions and see how many thousand you can talk them out of. It's time to go.

msrylee said...

IMO, it doesn't matter who recorded the birth, the Duggars sold it to TLC and other media companies. Anna's modesty was severly compromised during the birth as seen in the video. How do the Duggars justify this?

janeranchero said...

I can not agree more with the title of this thread! I am I am also disgusted by the majority of the Duggar’s recent actions. The wedding dress trip to Kleinfeild’s was totally inappropriate. I understand they were all in NYC for a different event, but obviously TLC decided to promote another one of their shows. I would have been really mad if I was there as a bride, dropping about $5,000 for a dress, and there was this gang of 18 kids running around. Most dress salons clearly state that it is not a place for kids. There is no reason why Michelle and maybe one of the girls could have gone and the rest could have gone to the zoo, or central park, or enjoy one of the many other activities of NYC, which they can not easily do at home.

As soon as I heard that Anna was pregnant, I was hoping that she would not have her birth videotaped for the whole world can see. As a recent new mom myself, I cannot imagine having a camera crew or cameras around for the pain and beauty of childbirth. I think they are huge hypocrites by saying they are modest, yet will broadcast a child birth for everyone to see. I’m far from modest or religious, but I would NEVER do that. I have not seen the other specials when Michelle gave birth, so I’m not sure if Anna’s will be similar to what they showed for Michelle. Granted, Michelle’s been there it a ton of times, whereas it was the first time for Anna. I’m impressed she did a home birth, but I guess that’s pretty popular for the quiverful folks, but I do know people who have done home births and one of the reasons why choose to do so is because it is more intimate and peaceful. That seems impossible with cameras recording every painful contraction and pushing session. I did see the teaser for it and it is really sickening. I have always thought Anna was a sweet girl while Josh is the flame loving suck up, and he continues to disappoint with the preview of her birth.

The other thing that really bugs me is that they went on TV 4 days later. I can’t imagine that stress. It looks like they were at Josh and Anna’s house. The poor thing. You are so tired and emotional after having a baby so I can’t imagine getting up early (or staying up) to get ready to be on TV and have your 20 in-laws invade your house! I was a bit of a germ phoebe in the beginning and if I was Anna, I would not want all those people and their germs near my brand new baby.

Josh’s latest writing on their website is really disturbing. Where’s Anna with the baby? She’s the one that did all the work. I love how they try to act like holly rollers, yet I doubt god told them to broadcast his miracle’s birth on TV to everyone. TLC already has tacky shows like that, called the baby story and special delivery, or whatever it is called.
The duggars are reminding me more and more of the train wreck called Jon and Kate. Hopefully they don’t turn into that. But it does bug me how they are also hypercritical with banning TV, yet they are on TV every week and profit from it!

Anonymous said...

I think the film of the birth and going on TV four days after birth are new lows for this family. Honestly, nothing is sacred or private or modest. It is time for them to return to their real values, if they even remember what they are anymore.

Really??!!?? said...

Did they REALLY have a dozen or so kids running around at a wedding place?? (don't watch the show, just read stuff and am subjected to TONS of previews when I watch "Trauma life in the E.R.")
What did the other patrons (PAYING patrons that is) think of all those wild children in there?? And assorted camera men etc? I WOULDV'E BEEN P.O'd!

Anonymous said...

I dont see the changes in the Duggers that its seems others are choosing to focus on. They are still responcible, religious and family oriented. Everything they do revovles around their family and bettering it. Whether they choose to leave TLC or not, I think it is positive for children to look at a family that doesnt follow all of the "norms" of our society, i.e. girls obsessed with boys, clothes, makeup and boys just chasing skirts. Go Duggers!

Anonymous said...

The Duggars are very opportunistic. They gladly accept any invitation given to them. I’m sure they view it as blessings from God. That being said, the Duggars and Gosselins have NOTHING in common besides having large families. The Duggars are very family oriented. Jim Bob and Michelle have a much better marriage and actually care about family values. They have a great amount of respect for each other. I applaud the Duggars for cashing in for being in TV. Why not? Their kids are obviously getting to have all kinds of experiences that they otherwise would not have.

TLC isn’t filming things that family is not okay with. They limit filming in their home to not show anything that would be damaging to the kids, like bathroom scenes as the Gosselins have aloud from day 1. (The scene of Anna giving birth is the only thing, so far, that has been questionable.)

Kate wore the pants in her marriage and pushed Jon around. Jon would bicker with her like a 4 year old, but then do whatever she wanted him to do, meanwhile, the kids were screaming trying to get anybody’s attention. I predicted Jon and Kate’s marriage crumbling to pieces the very first time I ever watched their show.

Besides that, take a good look at the Duggar kids! They are polite, respectful, have clean language, and are very good natured, whereas the Gosselin kids scream, pout, stomp off to their rooms, lie, and are very self centered (the twins especially). The Gosselin kids have learned all sorts of bad behaviors from their parents. Jim Bob and Michelle may have some strange beliefs, but they are proving that having stricter rules than the Gosselins obviously pays off.

I think that’s proof enough that this family can withstand being on TV.

Anonymous said...

What I have noticed since the Duggars have been on TV is a very distinct change in the behavior of the children. If you watch one of the earliest specials, like 14 children and pregnant again, or 14 on the road, or whatever it was called, the children are incredibly quiet, reserved, almost too much. They seem very well trained...controlled...!

Now, it is mayhem at the Duggars. The kids climb all over everything, eat with their mouths full, sit on the counters, eat off the floor, slide head first down the stairs, climb up near ceiling fans which are on. ride scooters around the house, bounce balls in the house. There seems to be almost no control of the younger children, and it is bedlam.

This is a change since TLC. Is it because Michelle no longer pays any attention to the youngest 10 kids, and lets the older four girls raise them (and they have no clue how to discipline), or is it because with cameras rolling at all times, the parents can no longer practice their very strict, Gothard-like discipline (like blanket training)? I don't know, but there sure is a huge difference in those kids, and the younger ones could turn out exactly like the Gosselins, if the Duggars aren't careful.

Willow #1 said...

I also wish we could get an update on Kelly Bates as well as their new baby and their house renovation.

Jane/Deb said...

I don't get why it's child exploitation for J & K to have their kids filmed, but it's not so for the Duggars? Lets' face it, neither family would have a show without the children, so the kids are the reason for the show. Why the double standard? Should a boycott of Duggar sponsors begin?

nccalgal said...

Jane/Deb
The reason there isn't the outcry of exploitation with the Duggars as there has been with the Gosselins is the way the $ seems to be handled. J&K were obviously using their kids for their own conspiculous consumption and their attitude that they were "owed" this because they had sextuplets. The fact that they had high powered lighting throughout their house and had the film crew there on a near constant basis also made it much easier for people to see the exploitation. Other than seeing the kids in more updated clothing, it doesn't appear that JB&M are profiting off the backs of their children, and they seem more gracious about the perks that they have received because of the show. Other than the shot of Johannah upchucking, for the most part, they don't allow their children to be filmed in compromising or embarassing situations. I'm not saying the kids aren't being exploited or affected by the filming, it's just that by their demeanor, they are more likeable so it comes across as more acceptable.

msrylee said...

Jane/Deb, maybe a boycott of the sponsors of the Duggar show needs to happen. I agree with the posters who have discussed all the changes since the show began. IMO, the Duggars are on a very slippery slope, and I'm not sure if they realize it.

pogo said...

Did it occured to anyone that maybe Josh does not exactly subcribe to his parents thinking? that is why the birth was filmed.I see that some of Anna's sisters don't follow their relious up bringing, one of them had on a modern dress, bleached hair and a tan. That is not living fugal.

msrylee said...

JB, Michelle, Josh and Anna are exploiting their children. It doesn't matter how the families change their life-styles, the children truly are the money-makers. No different than J & K, IMHO.

We may tolerate the Duggars much more than J&K, but the bottom line is that the kiddies earn the paycheques.

turtle girl said...

I think they should leave the show & TLC. "Reality" TV of this kind has to go and this means even the Duggars and Little People.
It's not healthy for a marriage or for the family as a whole.

Minerva said...

Now that TLC is showing greed is at their central core with their Gosselin actions of late, I say run before it's too late. They will corrupt any of these families that stay around long enough. I've heard stories that the Roloff show is manufactured reality also.

Anonymous said...

I too have noticed the product placements as late...but am viewing them more through Jim Bob's eyes, since for all intents and purposes, even before the TLC show came along, he really didn't have a job...just their commercial real estate gigs...and the renting space for the cell phone tower...i am wondering about the girls a) more modern hair and make-up and b) michelle is much more tan ...now this could be that since they've moved to their new big house they are outdoors more and she's more active outside with the kids more...and they girls have also grown up into young women...i don't think the duggars will leave tlc though, because they haven't really let any of it go to their heads yet...they haven't started buying retail...they haven't started watching tv...they still dress modestly...Jim Bob is looking at it as a way to put kids through college if they want to go or as a way to invest money if kids want to go to technical schools, or pay for girls' weddings...for instance...when they always agree to go visit new york to be on whatever show wants them, but they never know what show it is...remember michelle "umm we're going to be on, uhh, umm uhh, oh yeah the view"...she had no clue what that show was....

pogo said...

When, a person lives fugal,and an offer comes up, one does not refuse it. The Duggars are the same way. If the deal sounds good/they can benifit from it/does not cost them anything or much, and hopefully falls into their beliefs, then they will go for it. Remember they have soon to be 18 kids to raise. rental money only goes so far. From the way JimBob talked about wheeling & dealing(when they were at the Bates house) they know what they are doing.

Hopewell said...

"I no longer see them as moral or modest, since true modesty would keep a family out of the limelight. I think selling ones family for financial gain isn't modest either."

I agree, but still watch them. I thought they should have stood up to TLC and Said NO to the dress. That just made them into total hypocrits and likely drove away lots of faithful viewers.

I hate to see the show end and think it will be ridiculously hard for them to go back to never going anywhere except the annual ATI thing.

To the person who hopes the girls will take their TLC money and run, somehow I'm pretty darned sure that won't happen. Daddy likely has to be the other signature on any withdrawls.

Debi said...

If a network came knocking on your door offering you a bunch of money and some freebies just to film your "life"...and you actually didn't have to work for a living, how many people would turn them away? I bet not many...me included.

Been there didn't do that said...

Some of us are rational and look at the long-term impacts on the children and say no thank you. I talked to a child psychologist and child pyschiatrist and then we had a family discussion. Bottom line was no earthly way would we risk our children's future mental health for a guaranteed few thousand dollars and possible million dollars before taxes. It's tempting enough to look at, but really is money more than your children and your ethical standards? If it truly is, you have my pity.

momma6 said...

Anonymous said..

Now, it is mayhem at the Duggars. The kids climb all over everything, eat with their mouths full, sit on the counters, eat off the floor, slide head first down the stairs, climb up near ceiling fans which are on. ride scooters around the house, bounce balls in the house. There seems to be almost no control of the younger children, and it is bedlam.

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Not so sure I would call that mayhem..Jana coming home drunk, Jon-David staying out all night, Jessa running off with her boyfriend when her parents told her she had to stay home, jinger sneaking out at night, Joy-Anna breaking a window by kicking a ball, and Justin screaming throwing his plate on the ground because he doesnt want to eat..THAT'S MAYHEM!!
I am a SAHM with 6 kids 17, 15, 13,11,10 and 9 and while my kids would never even think to ride scooters in the house or climb on of furniture or slide down the bannister, I am not completely appalled that theirs do, nor do I think there are horrible parents because they allow them to do so. I actually have thought about this as I watch their shows and admire at how they let their kids play and rough house at times, but yet, those children sit still and are obedient and attentive during bible times, or diner, or when its family time and they are all siting down talking....TLC isnt going to show us when its "quiet" time at their house..who wants to see the kids doing homework, or reading or sitting down coloring or playing games. Michelle has said in the past, they have designated "run" times during the day, because they are so scheduled, thats only a small part of their day and what matters is that they can also sit appropriately when needed. Mayhem, I dont think so...hate to see what you would think of my family when we get into a crazy game of UNO!

aL said...

I think that it would be difficult to imagine the Duggars going the way of the Gosselins. When I see Jon and Kate, I see two people who craved some sort of fame and fortune, whereas I feel the Duggars are more about just trying to find a method to make ends meet and (probably) missionize for their Quiverfull way of life.

I don't agree with the Duggars on very much (religiously, politically, societally), but I do like them quite a bit and am always impressed by how smart and polite all of their children are. I think any future problem they have will probably stem from one of the children wishing to leave the Quiverfull movement sometime early in their adulthood. Since they're all public figures, we'd all know, and that could potentially be embarrassing for the family.