Special, Sunday, November 20, Duggar World Tour (2)

The family continues their trip through the Europe by visiting the city of London. Watch Jim Bob learn to drive on the "wrong" side of the road and see the family enjoy high tea and sight-see on a double-decker bus. Later, the family visits Stonehenge.

(60 minutes)

74 comments:

ennvee said...

I think I'll pull out my dusty VHS tape of Spinal Tap and watch it before next week's episode. I can't wait to hear what they have to say about the pagans who built Stonehenge; in their wacky world of anthropology, about the same time that dinosaurs roamed the earth.

WhitneyM said...

Oh brother. There isn't anything more excruciatingly painful than watching someone's vacation videos. Even if it's for a TV show. Wait, I'll rephrase that. ESPECIALLY if it's for a TV show.

Snap! said...

I have noticed something about Michelle Duggar..she is never holding a child. Why is this? After she is done nursing and the baby leaves the "shelf" she wears to nurse..the child is held by Jim Bob or an older sister. Has anyone else ever noticed this? During this special everyone else held a young child except Michelle.

tulip said...

TLC filmed this big whoop-de-do for The Duggars "traveling abroad", airing it as a "Special" on Sundays, like it's such a big deal and the event of the year...the problem I noticed is The Duggars themselves didn't really seem to show much of any genuine excitement about this once-in-a-lifetime opportunity.

Jim Bob, as usual, giving his nonchalant comments for the camera, and Michelle walking carefree certainly not looking like a mom who has 7 kids 10 & under plus a toddler preemie who shouldn't even be there in the first place...of course the older ones are tending to the younger ones! So, while THEY'RE at an age where they CAN actually understand where they're visiting, and be able to take the time and appreciate the experience, they have to be tied up tending to all the little ones, which all are too young to have any understanding of where they are and the value of it all. What a waste!

They might as well have just sent Jim Bob & Michelle on the trip kids-free. I doubt Grandma Duggar even got to enjoy it as much as she hoped because of helping out with all the kids, while Jim Bob & Michelle pay no attention. And, as a learning experience for their "homeschooling"? It seems to me the kids can barely stay focused to complete a lesson in their workbooks.

The Roaming Commoner said...

I noticed this too. It seems like Jimbob is her main "buddy" and his sexual wants come first. Instead of Jesus first, others second, and yourself last, it's Jimbob first, Michelle second, and all else last. This is just the way it appears to me though.

Jenny O said...

I have noticed the same thing as Snap mentioned - Michelle is rarely seen actually holding one of her own little children. It's always one of the older children do the carrying about. I also saw a brief video clip taken shortly before they leave on their Europe trip. Jordyn must go to the dentist, so Michelle and (I believe) Jill take her. And it's Jill who helps out by being present while Jordyn has some mouth x-rays done.

I also recall from a clip I saw of Michelle, Josie and (Jill again?) in Israel, when they had to stay behind because Josie got so ill on this "vacation": It is Jill who is watching over the toddler as she walks and toddles along; Jill who holds her hand, etc. Michelle is like a hands-off grandma!

for a "Mother of the Year," she's very detached and rather uninvolved in her own children.

Sharla said...

1.517M viewers.

Sharla said...

Also it was the third ranked of the three shows. Sister Wives was a hair over 2M and Muslims in America was around 1.7M.

Elverna Bradshaw said...

Wow.....stares.of.death at the sword swallower by the Duggar kids, especially Jason and one of the older boys. And it wasn't like they pitied him (which some religious people will say) but rather that they despised him.

Rainbow68 said...

Well, Jenny O:
I don't think anyone could've said it any better than you have. Josh, in particular, doesn't know what it's like to have a family without the TLC money coming in. Most of us with 2 kids carry a mortgage and can't buy every gadget that interests. Having been to the Bill Gothard seminars that the Duggars attend,I can tell you that Bill stresses buying your children homes instead of paying for college educations. The Duggars have been on tv since 9/04 with their first special. Most of the kids don't remember when money was tight. I feel badly saying these things, as I really care about the kids and even JimBob and Michelle, but I feel worse for the older kids who won't get to fulfill their dreams. They aren't even really allowed to have dreams. The boys will have to do something that doesn't require training where you will interact with unbelievers. The girls will be expected to stay home. I say this as a stay at home mom for over 15 years. No choice. No praying about your future. No discernment about what God has for you. You linger and linger at your parent's home until an appopriate mate comes along.

ennvee said...

I have noticed something about Michelle Duggar..she is never holding a child. Why is this?

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This is her normal behavior. She incubates, nurses for 6 months, then dumps the baby on its new mother. My bets are that J20 is paired with Joy.

I noticed that production found Michelle her venti Starbucks in Edinburgh. I hope there's a kiosk at Stonehenge or we may get a dose of something under than the baby voice.

I'm wondering what they leave out of the England leg of the visit; there are reports out there that they were spotted on a tourist bus in Dublin and Amy mentioned that they went to the Blarney Stone. Wonder why those didn't make the cut, but going to a farm for the gazillionth time made the cut?

Will Jim Bob try to witness to one of the guards at Buckingham Palace? With their love of weaponry, you know they saw the changing of the guard. Jim Bob's bad breath spewing religious fallacies in one's face might be the only way to get those get those guys to crack. :D

Cadence said...

The episode on the 13 was one that I actually really enjoyed. There was one thing that stuck out in my mind, don't know why, but when they were riding that pig, for some reason it bothered me so much when the man said "It doesn't matter, he's not that good looking." to Joseph. It's a pretty rude thing to say to a complete stranger.

Nikki said...

Cadence said...
The episode on the 13 was one that I actually really enjoyed. There was one thing that stuck out in my mind, don't know why, but when they were riding that pig, for some reason it bothered me so much when the man said "It doesn't matter, he's not that good looking." to Joseph. It's a pretty rude thing to say to a complete stranger.

That's a cultural thing, particulary in Scotland, Ireland, even into Poland. Many other cultures don't mince words or hold back from speaking at the expense of one's self-esteem. What Americans may perceive as rude is the norm for other cultures. It works in reverse as well. We are some rude arrogant buggers ourselves.

Hannah W said...

Jenny O,

I agree for the most part that Michelle never seems to hold her children once they're out of the infant stage.
It was sad to hear Jordyn call out for Michelle while she was in the car, because she definitely seems to be the forgotten one. However, it does make sense that Michelle didn't go back for the x-rays though, since she's pregnant.

Snap! said...

This is the only explanation I can think of...maybe Michelle doesn't want to focus on one child so none of the children get really attached to her? This way she has a lot of free time and the little ones look for their buddies and not her for affection. I see therapy in the younger Duggars' future.

Petunia said...

I was just thinking the same thing about Michelle not holding her children, which is downright bizzare to me. I have to make myself not pick up my boys all the time because my husband tells me I'm making them mommas boys. My point being that as a mom, I can't imagine having such limited physical contact with my young children. It does seem like she's a grandmother who would prefer to not "deal" with young ones. In their first book, Michelle mentioned having a back problem, so I'm sure that's her excuse for not holding her babies. She has such an entitled attitude it makes me sick. Michelle and Jim Bob seem to me like they've purposely set up a system where they are king and queen of the castle and loving every minute of it, even though it's at the expense of their own children. I wish I could have an honest conversation with Michelle and ask her if she's ever put herself in her daughters' shoes. Would she like her life if the tables were turned? She, after all, was married at 17 and living as an adult out from under her parents thumb. Good thing HER dad wasn't in charge of deciding when and whom she could marry. If Michelle was wise and mature enough to pick the right spouse at age 17, why aren't her daughters afforded that same freedom? Do Michelle and Jim Bob really think they are the only ones who know how to live life the correct way, and everyone else (including their parents and children) don't have the ability to direct their own lives?

Ok, end rant!

Anonymous said...

Since, as the Duggars claim, overpopulation is a myth, I strongly suggest that TLC do a program about an enormous family in a very poor country. Instead of going to the zoo or the local water park, watch all the kids starve. Instead of the big house, document life in the hovel and the fight for basic food and sanitation. Watch Mom die in childbirth. I know the Duggars go on "missions", but swanky bibles and heartfelt songs are not really the answer, are they?

Why doesn't the Duggar "World Tour" include a trip to a dusty village on the African continent? India? Why not?

--Former Peace Corps Worker

mishmash said...

Cadence said...
The episode on the 13 was one that I actually really enjoyed. There was one thing that stuck out in my mind, don't know why, but when they were riding that pig, for some reason it bothered me so much when the man said "It doesn't matter, he's not that good looking." to Joseph. It's a pretty rude thing to say to a complete stranger.

My parents are Irish immigrants and I can tell you firsthand that what the guy said to Joseph is totally Irish humor!! It was not said to be rude in any way. As someone in another poster said, it is a cultural difference.

As for Joseph himself, I've concluded he has the personality of a rock! He is such a monotone dud...ugh!

Amy was completely and utterly annoying during the entire episode but....at least she was being adventurous, unlike Jinger and Jessa...

Jana definitely fades into the background now of every episode...she used to always be interviewed. And there is definitely a sadness surrounding her...I would love to know how she is feeling about her life right now.

Johannah is so adorable and looked very trendy in her little sweater dress, tights and boots...What a far cry from the Little House and the Prairie Dresses! I wonder where they shop now...because I don't think they have that outfit at a used clothing store...

Willow said...

I commented a while back about Michelle never picking up kids other than newborns. You notice she would always hold Josie out front in a strange way. She may have back problems and I have always suspected she is trying to preserve her back and all her body structure for future pregnancies. Again, as others commented, at the expense of others. Too bad the other family members, including Grandma, don't get a vote in how many babies are born. So sad. You can easily see that Kelly Bates holds her children way more than Michelle does - or at least she does on camera. I remember her carrying her youngest baby into the Duggars' house in Little Rock when they arrived in the middle of the night. Kelly had the smallest sleeping one, not one of the girls. I too have been worried about Jana. No matter how much inflence from their parents and Gothard, the older kids have to be saying to themselves - enough already!!

Katie in FL said...

Just want to concur on the Irish humor. It's just to butter up the ladies. ; )

londonbridges said...

Amen to the Former Peace Corps Worker poster about over-population and results.

TLC, how about it? Send the Duggars to India, Africa or anywhere else overpopulation is a myth according to the Duggars.

j said...

"Johannah is so adorable and looked very trendy in her little sweater dress, tights and boots...What a far cry from the Little House and the Prairie Dresses! I wonder where they shop now...because I don't think they have that outfit at a used clothing store..."

I don't know about BFE Arkansas, but I live in Chicago and I buy all of my kids' clothes used and it is all super cute and trendy. So, it is possible, I just don't know how possible it is where they live.

sandi said...

The Duggars don't need to go overseas to witness poverty in America firsthand.There is plenty of it right here on our on soil.The Appalachian mtns come to mind..some of the poorest ppl in the country live there.

londonbridges said...

I stand corrected, Sandi. As a Canadian, there are many many areas of dire poverty and need, as well as the U.S. "Charity" begins at home. JMO.

Lindy said...

Having been to England, I may skip this episode. I like to keep my memories of that beautiful country and its people the way it is: JIm Bob free.

I would love to see the Duggars in South Africa for a couple weeks, a country that I not only visited, but lived in for a few years. The cuisine, the townships, the different ethnicities living in the rainbow nation would "shock" Jim Bob and Michelle (and the Duggar children). I would love to see Jim Bob "witness" to Nelson Mandela or Desmond Tutu or to South Africans in general. That would be entertainment for the viewers and a learning experience for the Duggars.

pumpkin said...

I laughed so hard at them trying to figure the money out so they could use the toilet - I've done this exact thing when traveling abroad and you really need to go, and you can't figure out what coin to use. It was sympathy laughter, not mean laughter.

I'm glad the kids had this opportunity.

Myname said...

BFE is really not how I'd describe Fayetteville/Springdale/Tontitown. (Im from Fayetteville which is were Josh and Anna's humble abode is.)I think the producers do a great job of making it seem like the Duggars are living in the middle of nowhere with no civilization to be found, but that's just not the case. I mean yeah, It's Arkansas. But if you MUST live here, Northwest Arkansas is your best option. The Duggars live about 10-15 minutes away from virtually anything a consumer could possibly want or need. It's not BFE (at least not for Arkansas).

As for Michelle's 20th pregnancy, well I have a theory about that. Does anyone recall when Jim Bob said something to Gil Bates about how they keep getting pregnant and Michelle seems to have reached the end of her baby years? Then Gil said, "Well whatever the Lord wants is what we all want, so we can rest in that." Ahem, the best way to get Michelle and Jim Bob to try HARDER to get pregnant is to insinuate that the Lord isn't blessing them anymore. A few weeks later, Michelle announces another pregnancy. Take that, Gil! See! The Lord has still blessed us more than you!

ilikepie said...

It really looked like Grandma, Jana, and Joy-Anna (along with the rest of the ladies) had a great time at the hat store. It was nice to see Jana and Joy-Anna smiling again. I am glad they were able to work something into the trip that they would really enjoy and remember as a special treat in London.

Elverna Bradshaw said...

What a bleepin' waste of money. At Stonehenge, half the kids were totally uninterested and the other half were totally hostile to what they were being told. (And I'm sure some of it was over their heads too.)

How embarrassing that the "honors" GED grads couldn't pronounce some of the very basic words on that menu.

ennvee said...

Co-sign with Elverna 100%.

Two words: Ugly Americans. They epitomized it.

The "TAYMES" River? Constant reminders that they're driving on the WRONG side of the road (in front of Brits, no less)?

You "don't do tea?" Go back to Arkansas, you bloody yokels. I would KILL for an opportunity like that and am so upset that these fools are wasting such a gift. A hotel next to Buckingham Palace? This trip set TLC back a bundle and all I can remember are the moments that make me cringe for decent Americans everywhere.

What person over age 12 can't
pronounce "treacle" or trifle?" Especially "trifle" since it's used in common literature. If that's indicative of Jill's and Jana's reading skills, they're going to need some remedial reading before they can pass a freshman college English writing class, even an over-priced CLEP test through College Minus.

The Roaming Commoner said...

I agree. Sending the Duggars to Europe or anywhere that doesn't involve Gothard, baby birthing, or tube steaks (as Jimbob calls them) is a total waste of time. I honestly hope that those living in England, Scotland, Ireland, and Israel do not look at Jimbob and Company as an example for what the rest of Americans are like.

Dar said...

Traveling through Europe. They visit countries steeped in History, Religious Acrimony, revolution, political and economic reform, etc. etc., etc. and almost half the program was dedicated to Jim Bob and Michelle driving a borrowed car. Most of the rest of the program dedicated to eating in various establishments. Those older children who graduated from the Dining Room table are certainly showing their lack of formal education. It is unfortunate, because these are bright Young people. Perhaps, if they traveled, unencumbered with child care, they might be able to learn something about the world beyond the boundaries of Arkansas. I will say, however, Jim Bob and Michelle certainly produce very good looking children. I just think a lot of money was spent and the highlight of the trip was a ride on a pig and discussing etiquette.

Jim Bob and Michelle simply cannot stand to be out of the limelight. I would so much rather see the children than these two "teenagers"

It was nice to see the older girls having a good time in the hat shop, along with grandma.

Kristin said...

This was the first episode I attempted to watch in at least 6 months, and I literally could not finish it. They are so incredibly rude every time they experience something outside of their little bubble. They showed such disdain for nearly everything they experienced. And they drive on the "left" side of the road, not the "wrong" side of the road. I would be utterly embarrassed to be in the presence of people who show such complete disregard for any cultures/lifestyles different than their own. What an ungrateful, disrespectful bunch.

hart&sole said...

Watching the Duggars visit England was a 'trip' all right. Could Jim Bob possibly have been more of a rude redneck? He even embarrassed Michelle for once. I fail to understand why the little girls and the little boys had to join in at the hat shop. That would have been more fun for the older girls, Michelle and Mary plus Amy, although her endless tries at a British accent were annoying. Obviously no work was done to prepare anyone for what would be seen and eaten on the trip. I can't wait to see how they behave in Israel. Will someone please help John David with his speech impediment and his language ability. Say what you want about Josh, at least he speaks semi literate English. I would give a whole lot to know what the Bates really think of the Duggars. It'll never happen though.

MayDay said...

I thought the Duggars were rude and mocking of the countries and cultures they were visiting. I was surprised when the Duggar girl mispronounced "trifle" using a short I instead of a long I. Here in Massachusetts we pronounce it trifle ~ try-full. Maybe they don't have trifle in Arkansas.

Elverna Bradshaw said...

What bothers me the most about this trip (besides the abhorrent waste of so much money on unappreciative people) is the sullen, petulant looks on the kids' faces (especially everyone from the early tweens on up) when they are presented with information that is foreign (as in not previously known, not "foreign" as in from outside the US..but that pertains too) to them.

It's as if they are angry with anyone who tries to tell them anything outside of what they have learned or have previously deemed appropriate for learning. Willful ignorance is no way to live life.

susan said...

Rude, arrogant and ignorant. That is how I would characterize the behavior of the entire Duggar family in London. It was so embarrassing, and puts all Americans in a bad light. The Duggars epitomized the term 'Ugly Americans". Their behavior at the high tea was horrendous, Jim Bob acted like a fool everywhere they went, and they basically showed disdain and ignorance everywhere.

What a waste of money and time. I still can't believe that TLC wasted probably $100K on that ridiculous debacle.

Elvira said...

I don't think John David has a speech impediment. I understood him with no problem. What he has is speech very similar to a large portion of the men in Arkansas. I also could see why one of the girls pronounced bangers as bongers. The "a" looked like an "o" on my TV screen. Trifle is a different matter. However, I have never seen trifle in any visits to Arkansas.

Elverna Bradshaw said...

It doesn't matter if you've seen trifle (either the dessert or the word) before. If you know how to pronounce the word "rifle", then you should be able to figure out how "trifle" will sound.

So much for rote learning of Bible quotes. Why bother learning phonics?

UGH!!!!! said...

My face was like hamburger meat from so many “facepalms” in one hour. Every “dumb American” stereotype PROUDLY oozed out of them.
It’s the “left” side of the road, not the “wrong” side of the road. And quit wasting valuable travel time on learning to drive on it when TLC drives you everywhere. Go learn something!
Late. Again. For a TOUR BUS. Way to go.
Guess what, guys – USA’s grasshopper pie doesn’t contain grasshoppers, either (and I wonder if they could read THAT word right).
“The girls will have enjoyed the hat shopping most”???!!!! Just… wow.
Really hate how they equate “Duggar” habits to “American”. These people WILLFULLY have no clue what different lifestyles, habits, foods, interests exist outside their home in their own country. Very little of this ‘mellow’ culture shock trip would seem foreign if they did.
Yes, people from different places have accents. So do you – a pronounced HICK one. Move on. In Part 1, a young one said “they have an accent because god made them that way”. For people who claim to use the world as their classroom, they dropped the ball on the opportunity to cover how languages evolve in different ways throughout history.

And Petunia – I agree 100%. I’ve mentioned here many times that the Duggar parents want their kids to repeat their lifestyle yet completely keep them from the opportunities that affords it to them.

Cadence said...

"As for Michelle's 20th pregnancy, well I have a theory about that."

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As the nitpick I am, I must correct you, this is Michelle's 21st pregnancy, not the 20th,

Did anyone notice how happy Joy Anna looked when she was hanging out with Amy? They should be together more often.

taurus0385 said...

I missed it last night.

mom in texas said...

London is such a beautiful city. The UK is so nice. It is great that the Duggars got to see it but I am not sure how much they appreciate it all. Jim Bob's aloofness was so unappealing and embarrassing. I felt bad for Jessa and Michelle at the palace. He was being such a goof during the entire tour of the city. Such a lack of respect for customs and rules in general. No wonder the kids are like little animals. There was so many things Jim Bob did and said that I found to be absolutely crass. For instance the "50 p to pee" statement.Some things are better left unsaid.

The hat shop seemed like it would have been enjoyable. Jinger's photographs came out nice. There was a few of JoyAnna that made me realize how she has really grown into such a beautiful young lady. I wish we could see her smile more.

I was so irritated with the usage of the word "wrong" in reference to the side of the street British people drive on. It is not "wrong" just because we in the States don't do it. Jim Bob and Michelle are stereotypical Americans. Anna also bothered me with her being so particular about the food. Compared to the stuff I see her cook (chickenetti anyone?) the food in London seemed delicious. She kept using the word "normal". "I didn't think they would have NORMAL food." What is normal food exactly?

I really hope the Duggars are grateful and cherish all the experiences they are fortunate enough to have. Not all of us get to travel around the world.

Sharla said...

Definitely not her 21st. Michelle had two sets of twins.

Elvira said...

I beg to differ on the Duggars being stereotypical Americans. Country hicks perhaps but not overal Americans.

Melanie said...

Jim Bob is a big child-producing child. I couldn’t believe it when he insisted on questioning the guard at Buckingham Palace in spite of the warning sign and repeated pleas from Michelle and one of the girls to stop and then confessed that Michelle is a good balance for him and keeps him in check when he does stupid stuff. He called the Thames the “big river that flows through London”, all of them are making fun of a different culture in one way or another, Michelle with her “wrong side of the road” really got annoying. At least after they were done making faces at the food their gracious host brought them, a few of them readily admitted that it was some of the best food they had had (even though it wasn’t American). And I’m sure they’ve fired off enough rifles to know how to pronounce “trifle”, rifle with a ‘t’ on it, good grief. I was also wishing that Amy and all the kids under the age of six had stayed home with the army of housesitters they had, give the older girls a break for once.

Allison said...

Regarding the number of pregnancies: Baby #20 is Michelle's 18th pregnancy.

If you go to the Wikipedia page, you can count the number of birthdates. Right now there are 17. When the next baby is born, that will be 18 birthdates.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/19_Kids_and_Counting

If you wanted to be REALLY nitpicky and counted her miscarriage pregnancy, then you could say this is her 19th.

But definitely not the 21st.

hart&sole said...

It's just possible that half a million people in the US actually want to model their own family after the Duggars, which is downright scarey. The other half a million viewers, myself included, watch in absolute amazement at what this nice family from 2004 has become. Just when we are sure it can't possibly get worse, it does. It IS like train wreck. We want to turn away, but we can't. Why on earth would TLC inflict this circus on other countries? Oh, yes, ratings. Not working yet, Sean, we need a courtship and a wedding apparently. The Duggar children, twenty and older, have to draw straws, whoever draws the short one, courts and weds. Fair enough?

Lesleigh said...

This is Michelle's NINETEENTH pregnancy. Her pregnancies with her twins each count as ONE each. She also had a miscarriage, so that also counts as ONE. Inmedical terms, she is:

G19/P19/AB1

Just Me said...

I agree with all of the above comments re:their outrageous behavior. In addition, I was saddened when I saw how great some of Jinger's photos were and how much she loved it and knew she could never have formal training or a career.

Paige said...

As an Arkansan who has lived and traveled extensively within the UK and Ireland, I do find it offensive that many of the commenters would attribute the Duggars' reactions to their travels to being from Arkansas. Being from Arkansas has little to do with their reactions and responses. However, the Duggars' narrow and uninformed understanding of general culture (beyond their tiny evangelical subculture) is very apparent, especially when they travel. There is much I could say regarding all of the Duggars lack of education, but it has nothing to do with being from Arkansas and everything to do with being overly sheltered and uneducated.

ennvee said...

It doesn't matter if you've seen trifle (either the dessert or the word) before. If you know how to pronounce the word "rifle", then you should be able to figure out how "trifle" will sound.

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John David should have been able to figure that one out. That picture with the rifles and semi-automatic weapons still bothers me. Of course you don't "do" tea, sweetie. But you could have corrected your twin on the pronunciation of "trifle."

I think the "pub" owners wrote up that menu especially for the Duggars. I'm curious whether that a pub or just a pub-style restaurant? I always associate pubs with that sort of fare served up with pints. It's possible that TLC reserved a special room for them off the real pub seating, but unless it's a really posh place, Brits seem to like to party in the pub, kind of like a sports bar.

Re: Jinger's love of "fashion:" how can she love something that she doesn't even have a sliver of knowledge? I don't see her going to Fashion Week anytime soon, or being allowed a tour of Parson's.

Backward is as backward does said...

LOL People can be as offended as they want by the belief that many residents of Arkansas are backward, but a lot are very insular just like the Duggars. What other state capitol airport is virtually shut down by 8 PM?

ennvee said...

Being from Arkansas has little to do with their reactions and responses. However, the Duggars' narrow and uninformed understanding of general culture (beyond their tiny evangelical subculture) is very apparent, especially when they travel.

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I have to strongly disagree with the first part of your statement. Just about every pronouncement about food, driving, culture (the bidet) was qualified with a reference to how they don't do that in Arkansas, or variations thereof. ie. "We don't do high tea in Arkansas." "This ain't sweet tea like we have back home."

Other than trips to Gothard HQ in Illinois (another sheltered environment), speaking engagements in which a church puts them up or trips to the Today Show in which they're pretty sheltered, I do agree that all they really know is Southern, and more specifically, Northwestern Arkansan culture. As I noted above, their isolation when they travel outside of the South and their unwillingness to learn about other regions of their own country, let alone foreign ones, only perpetuates the stereotype further.

Their behavior is not an indictment of other Arkansans; it's an indictment of "ugly Americans," regardless of where they come from. It just happens these people come from Arkansas and typified every stereotype.

The kids from Jersey Shore likewise made fools of themselves in Italy, typifying the "Jersey" stereotype. Same deal.

I know I can differentiate between the Duggars and other Southerners I know who are world travelers far more sophisticated than I. That said, the Duggars have done themselves, or their poor beleagured homestate any favors on this overseas trip.

ennvee said...

Correction: The Duggars HAVEN'T done themselves or their state any favors. A couple of omitted letters make a world of difference.

Oops! :D

hart&sole said...

"I ain't much for this fancy-smancy stuff." Yes, John David, we are all too well aware of that. Wouldn't it be a shame to actually learn something? It seems like most of us would have thought this the trip of our dreams. A hotel near Buckingham Palace, a real tea, a chance to try traditional British food, a trip to Stonehenge with the added benefit of being able to go into the stones? There is no point in even including this for an addition to my bucket list and there you all sit with the trip of a lifetime wasted on you! What a shame!

Anonymous said...

By trying to get the guard at Buckingham Palace to talk, Jim-Bob was acting like an annoying child who was told not to do something and did it anyway. Disobedience is not a great patriachal example for 19 kids & counting to follow. I'm sure the tour guide would have informed them of the "no talking" rule.

Whitney said...

To paraphrase Natalie Maines, the Duggars make me ashamed THEY are Americans after both episodes of the World Tour.

Rosalie said...

There were many "worst" moments for me, but the worst of the worst and most embarrassing so far (look out Israel) was Jim Bob's infantile pestering of that poor palace guard. Most children would read the sign or be told what it said and would respect that, but not Jim Bob, nosiree. I trust the guard was this-close to nudging his horse into "charge" mode.

EJ said...

Did anyone else catch the alien comment from Joy when they were at Stonehenge? Interesting.

ennvee said...

Deleted scene from Stonehenge.

http://tlc.discovery.com/videos/19-kids-and-counting-duggars-on-the-rocks.html#mkcpgn=fbtlc1

I'm amazed that the Duggars, those awesome (note my use of one of their go-to adjectives!) homeschoolers, didn't do their research about English cathedrals (a place you'd think it would be okay for them to tour) and teach the kids about the great Christopher Wren so his name was more than an etching on Stonehenge.

I'm sure they had absolutely no clue who Wren was. So much for those "teachable moments" that Michelle is always crowing about. Huge SORDRT FAIL there, Michelle or Jessa or whoever is "teaching" those few days they are actually home these days.

hart&sole said...

It wasn't all that long ago, or maybe it was, that people were laughing hysterically at 'The Beverly Hillbillies.' When I stopped and thought about that, exactly how did I expect the Duggars to behave in London? I wonder whose brainstorm it was filming the bidet, the 'wrong' side of the road drives, and the Duggar kids at the tea party? At least 'whoever' knew that introducing the Duggars to the Queen was over the top. Try and picture that and see if you can keep a straight face!!

MO5 said...

Who was rubbing Amy's shoulders at the table when Jim Bob was tucking his napkin in his shirt.It looked lid one of the duggar boys and it looked rather intimate.

Claire said...

When I saw the episode(s?) of the Duggars in New York a couple years back it seemed like they were really open to all kinds of people and cultures and liked seeing that. Either things have changed or I just read that very wrong.

I was actually embarassed watching this episode. Is the whole point of this world tour thing to make fun of other cultures? I've heard the wrong side of the road thing before, but the "normal people food" comment was just too much. The food was definitely not far off from the typical American cuisine. I mean fried eggs, breaded fish, and peas? They acted like they'd never seen a plate of peas before!

The preaching in a previous episode was also hard to watch. The sword swallower responded with great humor, but wow. Do you think they generally start conversations by asking people what their faith is and start preaching to them?

Anonymous said...

This was the first episode I attempted to watch in at least 6 months, and I literally could not finish it. They are so incredibly rude every time they experience something outside of their little bubble. They showed such disdain for nearly everything they experienced. And they drive on the "left" side of the road, not the "wrong" side of the road. I would be utterly embarrassed to be in the presence of people who show such complete disregard for any cultures/lifestyles different than their own. What an ungrateful, disrespectful bunch.

Sharla said...

1.196 million viewers.

ennvee said...

TLC can't be happy with that ratings number. Especially when they seem to have changed the show to focus less on their faith and more on the "rube" factor. They certainly know the majority of the audience are not fans of the Duggars and are trying to save the show by catering to the "snarkers" who are ironically keeping the show afloat.

If I record, I make sure never to watch for second impressions until 48 hours have passed, so I don't pad their numbers in any way.

David said...

Did anyone else notice how they seemed to be referring to the entire trip as being "in the UK"? As an Irish person I was really annoyed by this... I guess the Dining Room Table doesn't teach proper geography...

The Roaming Commoner said...

As an American, I really found the Duggars behavior overseas disgusting and stupid. I absolutey hate that they were over there acting like complete idiots. They are NOT the kind of people that need to represent Americans in any way. Most of us are not nearly as rude as they are. Anna, once again, made me want to pull my hair out.

SuzanneDeAZ said...

I did not see anything negative about the Duggars trip to England. The kids are just kids. I do not think the trip was wasted on them. I am sure each of them gained something from their trip and they do not have to go to Africa to learn somthing.

Someone mentioned that charity starts at home. I think the Duggars know that being they give a lot to their community and have taken trips to 3rd world countries to give as well. This is a very well rounded family, like others with means, will travel to 3rd world countries as well as to Europe. Believe me, many who have traveled and given their time and means to 3rd world countries also travel to places such as England. Why put a limit on where they need to travel? Should they not have a choice like the rest of us?

Diane said...

I noticed that the pub conveniently did not include "Spotted Dick" (pudding with raisins) on the dessert menu, as I've seen it in most pubs I've been to in England. The girls stumbling over that one would have been priceless!

HistorianMom said...

Small nit-pick. The guards that Jim Bob were harassing were the guards stationed at Whitehall, not Buckingham Palace. I wonder if they even made it into St Paul's, Westminster Abbey, the British Museum, or any of the other wonderful places you can go in London? I'll bet Grandma and the older kids would have loved a play. Les Mis has a great Christian redemption message. It would have been fun to see their reaction to that. A novelty: Jim Bob and Michelle stay home with the little ones under eight or so, including Josh and Anna's kids, so the Olders and Middles can go out BuddyLess for a change! Yes, in the non-Duggar world, Grandparents do occasionally watch their grandkids rather than rely on their grown kids to watch their younger siblings!

londonbridges said...

If the Duggars paid for ALL expenses to 'minister' in the third world countries, then my prior quote would be true....charity does begin at home.

It would have been helpful had the Duggar blessings learned at least a little bit about the countries they were going to visit, and something about the sites they were to visit. JMO.

Jessica said...

It agitated me beyond anything I have ever seen from the Duggars that they were allowed to go into Stonehenge. For some of us, that is sacred ground and even if it is not sacred ground, the historian in me was shivering over that undisciplined horde inside stones that shouldn't be touched. The visions, of Jennifer (?) climbing onto a flatscreen monitor in her attempt to scale the wall or whatever kept flashing through my mind. Few, if any, of those kids were interested in the history of Stonehenge or its significance...if they were even allowed to hear the true origins.