Tuesday, March 3, 2015, 9:00 PM, Invites and Ride Alongs

A few weeks away from matrimony Jessa and Ben ask Josh to design their wedding invitations.  Is Josh up for this super-sized task? Jill creates a gift for Derick's mom. And Jim Bob joins John David on a police ride along.

31 minutes


Ratings:  2.081 M viewers and a .7 rating.

168 comments:

Katie's Mom said...

I've just seen the ads for the episode with Jim Bob going on a ride along with John. I didn't think John was a police officer I thought he was "a constable," which is a huge difference. As Jim Bob walks toward the car with the donuts it appears he's wearing a police officers gun on his belt. What's the story here? Is John a full fledge police officer, or is this another case of the Duggars trying to make it appear that he is a professional police officer, out there risking his life daily this the same way Jana is a concert pianist, Jill is a midwife, Jinger is a professional photographer. They are really reaching if they allow Jim Bob with his huge ego, to tagg along, as if he's a police officer. Doesn't that town have better things to do with their money beside letting a constable's dad ride in a police car pretending to be a cop? I think it's an insult to all "real police officers," out there risking their lives daily. They are making a joke out of that profession for the ratings. Jim Bob has been watching too many "Andy Griffith Mayberry Shows."

Stephanie said...

Just from seeing the short preview of John David, I didn't know he had an actual police job. Maybe he has his eye on a girl and need a real job/health insurance etc.

My actually question is, Why does his uniform have a backwards America Flag like a U.S. soldier stationed in the middle east?

I thought soldiers overseas wore the backwards flag because the locals read right to left so to the locals they see the flag correctly to identify American but I am not sure that is the reason . Someone who knows please respond why soldiers do that?

Then we will tackle why on earth John David would need a backwards flag in Arkansas.

Stephanie said...

I just googled my own question and got the same answer from different sources. The flag is tobenvisaged "on thd run". So if its on your right should it will look backwards and on your left it will look normal.

coleen said...

If Ben is an artist, why would he ask Josh to design the wedding invites?

Anonymous said...

Katie's Mom- you hit the nail on the head. Why is this phony riding around in a police car? If he got hurt, who would be paying his medical bills- the taxpayers in Arkansas. He shouldn't be allowed to wear a badge and gun, he probably wants to intimidate people. He would poop his pants if he was involved in an altercation.

sandi said...

Jim Bob just wants to ride in the big police car and go wooo wooo,and make funny police noises while playing with the blue light and pretending to arrest ppl.Don't want to spoil his fun,LOL.

SummerSky said...

With all the help they have and freebies, how in this world would each wedding cost $10,000 to $20,000? Josh even made the invites. They don't have real food. Baffled about this, for sure. At least this amount is what JB said it cost him.

Ginger said...

I guess poor ole Jim Bob hasn't been getting enough attention with the girls doing all the wedding dress shopping, as well as Jill's pregnancy so he needs to "play police officer." He's just plain disgusting always wanting to get the attention on himself. Guess Jessa isn't letting him help pick out her dress the way Michelle did for the "vow renewal." He didn't just help on that one, he picked the dress for Michelle, including what alterations he wanted: puffy sleeves! I think most of us let our kids go & do their jobs without butting in & trying something as stupid as becoming a "fake cop." I can't think of anything worse that putting a badge on Jim Bob & letting him ride around in a police car belonging to the town. I also believe he had a gun in the police holster, but I certainly don't plan to watch & see him make a fool out of himself...been there done that many time already. Also the points about what would happen if something were to happen, even a car accident who would pay his hospital bills were will taken. He has the biggest ego of any man. He's always trying to step in where he doesn't belong. Next thing you know he'll be "trying ," to fly John David's plane. He'll know he can do it because he has a son that can.

Beth said...

Yes, Stephanie is correct re: the flag patch, depends on which arm is designated for the specific uniform, US flag on paper always has the blue in the upper left but if you look at a flag on a flag pole it depends on the wind or the direction it is being carried, therefore on a uniform it is supposed to look like it's being carried forward, therefore if it's on the left arm it looks 'normal' but if on the right arm it looks 'backwards'

Marites H. said...

Jim Bob just wants to ride in the big police car and go wooo wooo,and make funny police noises while playing with the blue light and pretending to arrest ppl.Don't want to spoil his fun,LOL.
**********************************Sounds like a fun activity for a birthday party for Jackson or one of the other howler monkeys, but Jim Bob is supposed to be a grown man -- a grown man with a sex obsession and over-curiosity about his married children's (and niece's) private lives.

ellen said...

Jim bob will do anything he can to stay in front of the camera, all this attention on the wedding and babies must be making him and Michelle crazy. My guess is Michelle will have invitro and announce she is expecting and will say they prayed about it and left it up to god if it worked or not. She went to a high risk Dr. to find out about menopause and probably more that wasn't shown..

ellen said...

If he is really a police officer, why did they keep it quiet?

Anonymous said...

I would rather watch paint dry then watch JB in a ride along with John David. Once again , JB is living in pretend land as a wanna be police officer. Not going to happen. I choose to watch a Big Ten basketball game. That way, U don't have to listen to Michelle's pathetic voice & listen about continual pregnancies. It's just boring.

Anonymous said...

I hope Michelle has learned her lesson that she is not pregnant. Chances are at her age, she could miscarry again. Obviously Michelle is addicted to pregnancy. Why can't this woman be satisfied as a grandmother? It's disgusting & JB has zero respect for a woman's body. JB is a narcissistic jerk.

Anonymous said...

Good point. If JB & M say as they have numerous times they leave the size of their family up to God then why did they consult with a Doctor about high risk pregnancy. Seems that smacks hypocrisy as do many of the other stunts JB & M have done. Their program is definitely NOT.about a ministry. They are fast becoming a joke!

Anonymous said...

Jill getting pregnant on her honeymoon so lame. Derick is a college grad with a degree earned in accounting. One would think Derick was smarter?? However the fact these two have chosen to eliminate BURTH control is just stupid. I also believe Detick dumbed down when he married Jill. In college, Derick had many opportunities to date women who were intelligent, used correct grammar other than the overly used & boring word "LIKE" & Totally. Jill behaves as a 12 year old behaves. I feel sorry for Derick.

Karen said...

Re: derick dumbed down

I had thought he was so mature but had thought he began acting immature with the Awkward hand holding and gross wedding dip/kiss. I doubt he had dated much as he seems like he has no idea how to act.

Brenda said...

Justin looks a lot like Jill.

princess pea said...

If two people get married and want children, I don't think it's "lame" to get pregnant on your honeymoon. My sister-in-law, a college graduate, got pregnant on her honeymoon. Lots of people do, and lots of people choose to forego birth control also.

Claudia said...

Jessa said Jinger took pictures of "Ben and I."

Why is Jill talking like she is a 12 year old?
Then she was talking in a normal voice when she was putting the basket together for her M-I-L Cathy. Her normal voice was actually pleasant. She needs to give up the child voice.

Dilly said...

I think TLC got the message that fans wanted to see more than just Jill and Josh who will do just about anything to be in the limelight. I think that is why I like Jana, John-David and Joe so much more.

Dilly said...

Jim Bob getting out of the police vehicle to get snacks......Then he got donuts..... And then didn't fasten his seatbelt.

A staged for (so-called) reality tv moment. Real believable TLC!

Jawsh said...

I watched the first one to see how many scenes for Jim Bob involved food. Then next there was Jawsh fixing breakfast.

Where were they when the two brothers made the pies for lunch? (I'd like to know what they had in them. They looked good.)

Carol said...

I never noticed how awful Jessa's acne is before. They do a good job with her makeup but the lighting and close up made it apparent. Couldn't happen to a nicer girl!

Heart in Florida said...

I thought John David (he's single, you know) was a constable... just how and when did he become a city police officer? They are not the same thing.

ellen said...

Both Michelle and jimbob drive me nuts! I have decided he is turning into kate Gosselin, towards the end of her show, she did everything she could to be on camera, thats what he seems to be doing. I wonder what the police department thought of that ride along...

Anonymous said...

Jim Bob & Michelle graduated from an actual Hugh School. Sadly their children will Never experience or participate in HS sports. Will Never develop friends from HS. Will Never attend a prom. Will Never graduate in cap & gown from HS. They will be forced to go the route of a GED. They Will Never attend a class reunion. All of the above their parents enjoyed & created memories. This is just so sad & somewhat mean of the Duggar parents to deprive their kids & also as some have become adults to limit what they may have chosen to pursue as a career vs always promoting midwifery & doula as careers. Also the Duggar girls will Never be permitted to attend a real College. They will be forced as some are currently to enroll in College Plus. CP is not an accredited college. Credits earned will not transfer to a real accredited college or university. Sad just so very sad. Sorry I misspelled High School typing too fast.

Tater Tot said...

As far as being a constable goes, where I live in TX the constables are certified peace officers. They are certified to openly carry a firearm and use it. They are the ones who often "serve" papers to locals and can be in danger if they're in a hostile environment. If he is allowed to carry he likely has completed some kind of training like we have here in TX, called TCLEOSE, it is a minimum of 40 hours training (in addition to firearms). So not just police officers get to carry firearms. Our county constables even get their own vehicle (a lot like JD's). So his setup sounds a LOT more legit than his other siblings' does! It is completely believable for him to be doing this at age 25.

If I were him, I'd be horribly embarrassed at Dad getting donuts etc... !!

Tater Tot said...

Oh, I should add.... JB was the one who kept referring to JD as having "police" duties. It's his flub, not JD's.

Anonymous said...

Jill's Mom is a fan of the child voice. It's annoying. However, Jessa, Jana & Jinger don't appear to embrace the child voice. Why would any adult with functioning frontal lobe choose to speak in a child voice unless if course they seek attention.

Anonymous said...

It sure seemed like Jim Bob was advertising to the nation that JD is single, not dating, not courting, would be a great catch for some girl. Michelle even threw in that he was tender hearted.....and that he was 25 years old!! Better get cranking those babies out JD, times a wastin' LOL

Maria said...

To understand the baby voice and big eyes, dig into some Gothard teachings and you will find that women are to be "gentle voiced" and are not to use a harsh tone in speaking with her husband or children. You are to "be pleasant" or the equivalent of "keeping sweet". There's more, in regards to appearance and hair styles.

As for Jill and Derick, I was hoping that they would run off and travel the world together. I thought the trip to Nepal might stir an adventurous side in her, and wake her up to new ideas, but she slipped right into the ideals she was raised with. And there's nothing wrong at all with those ideals, of being married and having children, but a small part of me was hoping that Derick might encourage her to get a real education, a real nursing degree so that she could go on to become a midwife. She has a knack for it, and could have went on to do so much more.

Other than this I'm going to grow bored of this show, if all the Duggar daughters just get married, pregnant, give birth, try to get pregnant again, more gender reveals and baby showers. I think this show is done. What else is there?

My heart goes out to Jana. That's all I want to say about that.

no1 said...

Jim Bob's 'commercial' for John David was pathetic and sad. They must be desperate for JD to 'catch a gal.' At 25 I guess they're worried how his apparent disinterest in courting will be interpreted. Settle down JB! It's all just God's -er- TLC's timing.

Syndee said...

About missing out on all the enjoyment of high school activities and experiences, they are also making the kids miss out on the enjoyment of dating and being alone for the first time with a date, confiding in them and the excitement of finding things in common, keeping little secrets, and the entry into the physical realm. All that is either missing or so rushed, it's still hard to imagine. What, then, fills their life as a teen?

Elizabeth said...

Those things bother me too! JB and Michelle chose this life, and at a certain point their kids should be able to choose for themselves. They are basically setting their kids up to fail in the real world. As a mother of three, I long for my children to have a better life than me. I don't make all their decisions for them either. As a parent you do the best you can, and you try to instill good values. At a certain point you have to let your kids go, and hopefully they will make good decisions in life. It just feels like the Duggar kids aren't allowed free will!

Patricia A said...

Re: Jessa's acne

I noticed that Jinger has bad acne, too.

Heart in Florida said...

OK, all you Christian virgin ladies; please gather and form the line TO THE RIGHT, orderly now, and step up with your applications for the privilege of becoming John David Duggar's sweet fellowship receptacle and child bearer..for the next 25 years..
How more obvious can they get? Jim Bob prefers his sons to marry as those grandkids will carry the Duggar name...more feathers for this peacock to strut.

Fiji said...

Re: they are to speak with a gentle voice

Derick said Jill talks loud (when the camera isn't around) and we know she cuts him off when he tries to talk.

Why did he bring up her loud talking on national tv....sounds a bit passive aggressive to me.

Paige said...

Re: Jill going into nursing

Sadly she is very far behind. Remember when she was sitting on the bunk bed and was telling how many boys and girls they had back then and was real confused on it being 50/50....and it wasn't.

Tricia said...

Re: jd being a police officer

Does anyone have the nerve to valleys tontitown police dept and ask?

Tricia said...

Re: Jim bob and the donuts....

All set up for infantile humor.

Tanya T said...

I find John-David a little arrogant at times. Ben seems really immature and you can see the look Jessa gives him when he says something awkward that she sees it too! I also think she saw Ben as her escape from home slavery with Michelle. I bet Jessa is going to secretly take steps to avoid getting pregnant so quickly, if she is a smart girl she will take advantage of this freedom for awhile! It makes me mad that the boys have jobs and careers and fun things to persue( John- david being a pilot) and the girls don't leave the house, don't have jobs or even encouraged to have a career. That could really backfire on them if they lose a spouse suddenly to a heart attack or car accident and have a dozen kids to raise alone. Wouldn't you encourage them to have a skill or career to fall back on? Is it just me, or is Anna trying to act more and more like Michelle with her cutie voice and bug eyes while talking?! Drives me nuts!

Missy said...

Re: Heart in Florida I'm asking the same question just when & how did John David become a police officer? They are entirely different animals. It's an insult to all police officers that put their lives on the line everyday. As I recall John David "ran" for constable, an elected office. However, he was elected as he was unopposed. Anyone else remember this? Also constables are the ones to serve; "eviction notices." Many thought that would be quite an "in " for Jim Bob, who loves to find people that are being repossessd or evicted so he can "buy used & save the difference."

Paige said...

Re: Jim Bob referring to john-David's police duties....

Everything with Jim Bob is embellished. You know Jana is a concert pianist.

Ginger said...

RE: Various comments about the Duggar kids missing out on all the High School activities, Everyone is absolutely correct about that. So isn't it a little more than strange, that in one of the upcoming episodes they are advertising that Michelle attends her High School Reunion? Nothing like showing the kids what they missed out on.

Sharla said...

Gentle reminder time: when your relatives conceived their children is not relevant to discussion of the Duggars.

Wampascat said...

It's gonna be slim pickins for John David. He's shown too many times that he's exactly like Jim Bob, except he has a receding hairline and missed out on braces. Who in their right mind wants to deal with a smart mouth, know it all, male Duggar? Ugh!!!!!!!

Special Ed Lady said...

I wonder about Ben. His eyes have a mean look to them, sometimes. I wonder if he can be controlling and abusive. Since they are not allowed to go out alone or very much at all, they cannot see how the other party reacts, in difficult situations.

Anonymous said...

John David is a constable. He ran with no other contenders. He is unpaid and can carry a weapon. He is NOT a police officer. His position is constable. Another lie by Jim Bob.

Regarding the girl's acne...have you seen them applying all that liquid crap and then the brushes they use are disgusting. Doubt they wash them. I also wonder if they are cautioned against using proactive and other OTC washes for fear of birth defects...However I have noticed in Jessa's recents pics, her skin has gotten noticeably clearer!!!

I agree, Ben looks, seems, like he could be mean but I bet Jessa would not stand for it.

And Derrick, he is a dope!!! They are perfect together!!!!

Heart in Florida said...

We always see the older girls dressing, helping the younger sisters out in getting cleaned up for the day..soooo, who helps the younger boys with the same? Do the older brothers make sure their younger ones are washed and dressed in the morning? Maybe the boys don't count if they are in clean clothes and brush their teeth...as they don't have to attract a husband...

Anonymous said...

Jim Bob aka Dim Bulb & Michelle will never let their children go to pursue furthering an education, careers or other desires. The mission of JB & M is their children marry & reproduce. That's it. It is the Duggar girls for which I am concerned. They have no life they have no choice. John David & Jana are age 25 still living at the on the Duggar compound. Thee twins don't even have the privacy of their own bedrooms. I wish Dim Bulb & saint Michelle would respect their older children. To me this is abuse. It's too bad the Duggar parents aren't called to task.

Anonymous said...

At age 25, John David DOESN'T NEED TO COURT. He's an ADULT who should date minus chaperones. Dim Bulb is an idiot and when he rode with JD in the police car I couldn't believe JB actually wore a press on badge obviously the size a child would wear. When JB flys commercially, he probably asks the flight attendant for a pair of wings to wear as children sometimes do. In my opinion Dim Bulb & Michelle have never grown up. Their frontal lobe never developed. They are children in adult bodies raising children. This to me is frightening.

Anonymous said...

What fills their life as a teen?.....raising their parents children. I would guess thats a full time job

Dar said...

I have to say, I wonder about Ben as well. He has indicated on more than occasion that he is jealous. Red Flag. Of course nobody would know as Jessa was not allowed to be alone with him. She calls the "shots"now, but I don't think Ben is as malleable as he might appear. Who knows what will develop once they are married. I don't think JimBob, The Master Puppeteer, really knows a lot about the two men he has brought into his family. I do hope Jessa will wait a while before she gets pregnant. I hope she gets to know him better. Regarding her acne. I think all the girls have poor skin. They have this long mop of hair constantly in their faces. That can't be good is the hair is not washed every day. Jessa also seems almost uninvolved in her wedding plans. There is nothing like Jillymuffin had. I tend to agree with some posters. I think she wants out of that house with all the people and all the work. I don't think she will have too many overnights with the little siblings.

Anonymous said...

Sometimes I believe people who are incarcerated have more freedom vs the Duggar kids. So sad. I also believe when the Duggars are off camera the parents beat their kids. Jana appears as though she's very fearful of JB & M. I see this in her eyes. I also believe JB & M will never permit Jana to court. M needs a permanent sitter. Also I was aghast when M said JB & she want to adopt. Good grief why??? B

Tamara said...

Re: John-David having a smart mouth?

I thought he always acted like he was just saying whatever silly thing the camera crew / producer TLC him to. My reasoning is because he doesn't look comfortable saying it....like he is acting and isn't a good actor. I still like him. I just think he is encouraged to act a tool at his dad's encouragement. (notice how he happens to be away working a lot so he doesn't have to be there?)

Anonymous said...

I definitely hope that Jessa will not become pregnant right away. Jessa projects more confidence in herself vs Needy, I need the camera in my face 24/7 Not very bright Jill.

Anonymous said...

Has Jessa & Jinger heard of the brand Pro Active? The product is very effective. OMG I forgot the Duggar girls are not permitted to watch TV.

Anonymous said...

Since the Duggar boys & girls each have a dorm like room. & Grandma Duggar lives in the Duggar home, where does Grandma Duggar sleep? Perhaps she sleeps in the laundry room so that she is available to St Michelle to do laundry 24/7? Just curious.

Anonymous said...

Re the Duggar kids of high school age homeschooling? Does homeschooling cover subjects such as chemistry, physics, advanced math? I doubt it. Receiving a GED is not in the same league as Earning a high school diploma. A GED is the "easy" way out.

Anonymous said...

Michelle Duggar could be a more attractive person if she would cut & style that mess she currently wears. Those ugly black hose & shoes are not working for her. The clothes she wears ages her appearance.

Sharla said...

Grandma has what used to be the guest "suite." It is, however, off the laundry room.

Anonymous said...

Buy used & save the difference is tiresome & boring just as the person Dim Bulb who coined the phrase. Also Dim Bulb has worn out the Be Fruitful & Multiply verse which has more than one meaning. Dim Bulb's laugh is so placating. & insincere as well as insulting & patronizing. What a jerk.

Anonymous said...

Agreed. That's why courting is not smart. Josh, Jill & Jessa married the first person of which they had a romantic relationship. Dating helps one decide the person of whom one wants to develop or not develop a relationship. I don't believe Derick will hang in there with Jill. Eventually he will become bored with a wife who is limited in every aspect of life. Jill is needy, clingy, & can't be alone by herself. Smack that she's extremely insecure. I just don 't care for this girl.

Anonymous said...

The Duggar Coat of Arms should display the words "CONTINUOUS PREGNANCY". So messed up. With the Duggars it's Religion & definitely NOT Christianity. There's a huge difference.

Anonymous said...

I am thoroughly disgusted of the manner in which Jim Bob continually insults the viewing American public. Does he really believe his show is fooling us? He's nuts if he believes this bunk. Jim Bib & Michelle raise their children in a CULT FORMAT! It's sick & horrid. Shame on the Duggar parents.

Jak&Jil said...

I don't know if anyone noticed this. In the first episodes, Jill is driving to pick up Derick in a pretty new white SUV (don't know the brand). In last night's episode she was driving an older black SUV. So do they have 2 vehicles? If they do have 2 vehicles, then Derrick can drive himself to and from work.

It's time for all the Duggar girls to cut that awful hair. Stacey London does some great makeover shows for TLC. I'd watch that special. Wonder how many times a year they have to snake their hair-clogged drains (that's assuming that they are allowed to shower and wash their hair daily).

Anonymous said...

Jessa should have said... Jinger took photos of Ben and me. Again, the lack of education & correct grammar escape the minds of the older Duggar kids.

Anonymous said...

I feel sorry for Anna married to creepy Josh who now resembles the image of the Pillsbury Dough Boy.

Anonymous said...

Here's a suggestion... Jim Bob & Michelle should choose a theme song. From the Wizard of Oz how about "If I only had a Brain"?

Anonymous said...

Jim Bob & his incredible moronic behavior. Not working for him.

smarty pants :) said...

I don't know about Ben's possible mean personality traits, but I do think the constantly chaperones dates is no way to get to know a possible spouse. More reasonable oils be to trust them enough to get to their public place of the date by themselves. I mean what are they afraid of happening in a restaurant, bowling alley, etc.? They need the time to figure out if the other is a good match for themselves. Plus, their parents shoul trust them. It's awfully demeaning when your own parents don't trust you tat much!

Anonymous said...

The Duggars have remained on the air for several years. They have amassed a great fortune for their family. So, the idiotic phrase that Jim Bob continually says "Buy used & save the Difference" is bogus.

hello said...

Why does Jill have to drive Derrickdillard to work, eat lunch with him and pick him up from work everyday? Is she so insecure that she has to spend as much time as she possibly can with him? I believe she would spend the day with him at work if she could. I believe the insecurity goes back to not being allowed to be alone with him while they were courting or when they were engaged. She acts like a teenage girl with her first boyfriend. That is what happens when your parents "encourage" you to court, get engaged,and marry the first guy who comes along and shows any interest. She also has to be as close to him and touch him at all times. Is she afraid he might run? Jessa does the same thing. And Josh and Anna did the weird hand sex thing while they were finally able to hold hands once they were engaged.

ellen said...

Its sad they dont get time alone before they get married. They have no life or social skills to be out in the world. Then one day they meet, court, and marry all in just a few months. No time alone to see what that person is like without anyone around and then bam, your married and you go behind closed doors with a person that really is a stranger. I wouldn't put my child in a situation like that.

Murphy said...

Aw I like John David, he's a good guy. Yeah I know he posed with those rifles but overall I do wish him the best. Hope he marries a nice girl and moves away to start his own construction business or something.

Jeanna said...

Wondering what the Duggar's feelings are regarding derrickdillards mother undergoing treatment that involves stem cells? She mentioned that they are using her stem cells but I know that some ultra conservative Christians are opposed to any stem cell research or treatment - embryonic or otherwise.

Anonymous said...

Jim Bob & Michelle have become a Cliche. That's not a compliment.

Janice said...

Any idea what Derrick does at his Walmart job? I'm hoping he's an accountant, using his college education. He could actually have a future, independent of the Duggars. I'm sort of surprised JB didn't force him into doing the family financial books, but that may come after he's more experienced.

Anonymous said...

Yes. I hope John David meets a nice girl. Does not get pregnant right away. Yes. Moves away for Arkansas perhaps a New England state. or state of Washington. But away from the CULT Duggar parents & compound.

Missy said...

RE: Jessa Saying Jinger took pictures of Ben & I. Yes the grammar is incorrect but I don't think we can even count the number of times Jim Bob has said Michelle & me when it should have been Michelle & I., i.e. Michelle & me went out to dinner instead of Michelle & I went out to dinner.

LAMcp said...

I know some think John David is a JB clone, but honestly, I have to disagree. At least John David seems useful. And of the the whole clan, he seems to be the only one with anything resembling a work ethic, other than G-ma Mary.

Willow said...

Just a few words about Derick and Jill: I think Derick may be disappointed Jill quit her midwife studies. I wonder if that was always the plan or was it because she got pregnant? I wonder if he fully understood all along that she was going to be staying home permanently.

My opinion only, but I think he was too far into it before he realized some things about Jill and the Duggars (immediate pregnancy, etc.) I think he may have been in a fog for awhile during the engagement period.

Along those lines, remember Jill saying on-camera that when they got back from their honeymoon, they started to discuss the fact of Derick going to his job everyday? AFTER the honeymoon? She acted like it just suddenly dawned on her that Derick wouldn't be home all day like her dad. I think the Duggar girls have learned a certain persona to use on camera, just to appear somewhat normal, but when the cameras are off, they revert to clueless-ness (my bad grammar and spelling, sorry).

Heart in Florida said...

So, exactly what is John David's career? How can one be a constable, city police office, run a towing business and a land clearing business all at the same time? Methinks that guy doesn't have any idea what HE wants to do; it's what his daddy tells him the family needs him to do. Some great catch for a lucky lady!
I feel sorry for JD, as he seems like a mild mannered guy who has been "recommended to tow the family line" strictly and had the spark put out in him, too, like Jana. I'm sure Josh experienced the same..I fault their controlling parents who still treat them all like they are 10 year olds.

Allison said...

I think John David is making the best of the situation. He's so frequently pulled into his family's functions because he's a Duggar and has to. But you could tell from his interactions with his dad that he really doesn't have that much respect for him and would rather he not be there. I think he likes his mom enough, but yeah. It looks like he's trying to be as independent as possible while still be chained to the clan. I feel sorry for him.

Anonymous said...

The Duggar program should be renamed to 19 Kids & Counting living in a Prison created by their parents. It would be more honest.

No longer a fan said...

Re: my stupid autocorrect....

That should have said "does anyone have the nerve to call Tontitown and ask about that ride along where Jim Bob hauled himself out to go buy snacks while J-D was helping take down the traffic violator." I think it is nice that Jim Bob makes money for an episode by using local gov't equipment (i.e. What all the locals paid for with taxes....and only Jim Bob makes money from.)

Anonymous said...

This business of gentle voice & keeping sweet is men controlling women. It's abuse. If the Duggar women follow this behavior, they are shutting down their true authentic personalities. This Gothard crap is just that. Gothard is an ugly controlling jerk. I believe this pseudo minister is close in personality to Jim Jones & we know how that fiasco ended. Again, the Duggar parents run their home in a CULT FORMAT.

Anonymous said...

On one of the Duggar shows Derick mentioned he has a degree in accounting. Derick is employed at the corporate office of Walmart. True, I am sure Dim Bulb will ask Derick to manage his finances & taxes. Any time Dim Bulb can extract something that's free, he's all on board. What a jerk.

Anonymous said...

Yes absolutely correct. Dim Bulb is grammatically challenged.

No longer a fan said...

Re : the two vehicles the Dillards seem to have. After Josh left and before the girls married many times we'd count 10 vehicles there. They didn't seem to be the film crews.

When Jill loaded up her kids to get pickle making ingredients she took a black SUV. Maybe that is hers.

Syndee said...

Something about this family dawned on me. I wonder if they really all along had these super strict viewpoints, or if they really started to gel only after the show started. Like if there was never an audience, maybe they would have loosened up the rules for the older kids when they were dating age. But once the show started and Michelle and JB declared that these were the rules of the family, then they were stuck holding to them. Once the show started, in a way WE, the audience, became their "accountability partners." Since they declared, this is how it's going to be, on national television, in a way they were now stuck following those things or looking like fools. (not that they don't anyway.....)

Anonymous said...

About Jana Duggar. This poor soul of a woman. Jana remanded as a permanent sitter for young siblings is just a travesty. Jana is musically talented but limited as far as pursuing a career in that area. I once saw a spark in Jana now, it's gone. I believe Jana keeps everything inside & one day it could explode. Jana seems as if she's been used & hurt by her parents. Michelle definitely takes advantage of her as well did Jill regarding alterations of the bridesmaid dresses. Jana is age 25 & just a lost soul. I hope she finds a man who will honor her. At age 25 Jana should never be forced to court. I also believe Jana was forced into becoming a Doula.

Anonymous said...

I just want to shake Jim Bob. & Michelle into reality. To PLEASE. leave their remaining adult kids that live in the Duggar prison alone..

No longer a fan said...

Re: not trusting their kids to go on a date unchaperoned

Where does their mistrust stem from?

No longer a fan said...

Re: derick not realizing what a mess he was getting into....

How could he have known? All conversations were heavily monitored. When you were dating and became engaged did you have some things you wanted to discuss without lot others hearing? He didn't have that option.

No longer a fan said...

I looked it up on the Arkansas licenses and do not see any duggar licensed to do any towing. I wish John-David had been born into a different family. I think he has so much potential that he isn't allowed to use. And yes, now that so many are SICK to death of Josh and Jill and asked to se the others Jim Bob has forced him into the uncomfortable position in front of the camera. He and Jana sem to hate it.

Anonymous said...

Jim Bob is too strict boarding on hedonistic behavior. This is scary.

Ruth said...

With them living out in the country I wonder if the well water is an issue. I had bad acne & still break out when I visit my parents who have well water.

Anonymous said...

I remember when Jill was skyping with Derick her parents intruded again & were involved. Also, the Duggar parents intrude on every text message & listen in on every phone call their kids make. I 'll bet when JB & M were dating their parents never interfered. JB & M just sick, controlling & interfering parents. Shame on them.

Anonymous said...

Because Jill is extremely NEEDY, & never learned how to behave with a man. Derick is the only person she's dated. So she behaves as a girl in high school would behave dating a first boyfriend. Or should I write LIKE & TOTALLY. Words Jill comprehends. Jill hasn't grown up & just as Michelle, will be a child Mom raising a child. Frankly it's laughable but sad.

Anonymous said...

Via the TLC program, the Duggars earn a very good monetary living. Because of TLC they travel when they choose & often out of the USA. Why then do they shop thrift stores? I was disgusted when I learned the Duggars purchase Used shoes. That's unsanitary & unhealthy. It's similar to using someone else's toothbrush. To purchase used shoes could be inviting fungus, athletes foot or other problems. I know the Duggar parents can well afford to purchase shoes that will correctly fit the feet of their children. Where are the brains of JB & Michelle. Are these two so selfish that they do not care about the health of their children with regard to proper footwear? Geez.

Anonymous said...

Does anyone believe Derick could now feel trapped? He's very laid back but he could feel trapped? Derick is college educated a degree in Accounting. However, JB doesn't respect education that's obvious. If it were up to JB, he'd have Derick cleaning toilets along side Ben & then in his sick laugh patronize Derick for the work he had completed as he does with Ben. I believe Derick will not permit Dim Bulb to control the Accounting career he has chosen.

Anonymous said...

Poor Anna Duggar. Pregnant with 4th child, a girl. Anna is in her 20's. Josh & she look as if they are in their 40's. I hope this is it no more kids. Four is enough.

Anonymous said...

Visiting a relative, we decided to prepare a downsized version of Tater Tot Casserole. Way too many calories & it was disgusting. We tossed into the trash & then went for pizza. This proves the Duggars do not aspire to a healthy diet. Also, why do the Duggars continually use paper plates, plasticware, etc. I know they can afford real dinnerware & flatware. The Duggar parents just so low class.

Anonymous said...

Jim Bob thinks he's so funny and continues to fool and tease his children like he is a middle schooler himself. On one too many occasions now he has done things that embarrass his kids and they have to tell him to stop. All the times he kisses Michelle and makes inappropriate comments we are all well aware of. His immature behavior when riding with John David is yet another time when he just acts stupid and foolish.

Anonymous said...

I find it interesting the disdain the Duggars have for Catholics is despicable. God loves Catholics He does not discriminate. The trips to El Salvador for the purpose of bashing the Catholic faith is just wrong I am a Catholic & attend services regularly. I am proud if my Faith. Shame in the Duggars for bashing & lying about Catholics. Hey Duggars one day there will be Catholics in Heaven. What will you do about it?

Carol said...

Anon at 6:58. I think u meant to say that there are Catholics in heaven now. Anyway, don't get upset at their ignorance. They are in a cult that teaches them who is in and who is out of the heaven club. Objections like yours must be the "persecution" Bin was blathering about on fb when they were there. It's better to laugh at these yahoos than get upset.

Amy said...

Re: Jessa Saying Jinger took pictures of Ben & I. Yes the grammar is incorrect but I don't think we can even count the number of times Jim Bob has said Michelle & me when it should have been Michelle & I., i.e. Michelle & me went out to dinner instead of Michelle & I went out to dinner.

Not only grammar but pronunciation as well. I remember an episode in which Michelle said they liked "Eye- talian" food.

Anonymous said...

Re stem cell that Cathy chose to help heal her. Jim Bob would criticize this decision. However, Dim Bulb not in charge of Derick's Mom or her life.

Anonymous said...

If one of the spouses die I think that means jb steps back in. That's why grandma lives there, they are not to be without a male leader. I read some stuff on gothard rules

Anonymous said...

I don't think they can choose for them selves. It is a cult. Here's why I believe it's a actual cult. They are separated from anyone without their beliefs, they are not allowed any formal education that would allow them the skills or thought process to question their teachings. They are allowed no privacy, or really thoughts because if they had thoughts on leaving who can they tell, no friends, phones monitored and no real means to support themselves. They can't choose to leave because they don't see anything else.

Anonymous said...

Thanks Carol. Appreciate your comment. B

Anonymous said...

Well Derick showed his true colors when he purposely aimed to hit a defenseless cat while sledding on a cookie sheet near or in the Duggar compound. Shame in you Derick. You just proved you are as lame as your pathetic wife Jill.

NW Indiana said...

U of Notre Dame freely admits they don't apologize for being different, they celebrate it! They send thousands of alumni throughout the world doing God's work without thumping their Bibles and having that smug attitude of "I have my Bible and to heck with you." Listen up Jim Boob!!

Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
Re stem cell that Cathy chose to help heal her. Jim Bob would criticize this decision. However, Dim Bulb not in charge of Derick's Mom or her life
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Those were HER stem cells. Doubt he would object to that. My brother donated stem cells to our sister.

Not the same as embryonic cells.

Anonymous said...

I think Ben's Dad looks like he could be very mean and controlling. I realize looks aren't facts but I just get this vibe. All pastors, therapists etc..would tell you, pre marriage, that jealously is a bad signal. And to openly admit that, well, frankly, he should not. He should be working on that and determine why he is jealous. Has Jessa given him reason to be? Probably not. I think it is control more than jealous.

hoosier said...

Hey! Another Hoosier here! I am not Catholic but live near enough to South Bend to have heard the mass for Father Hesburgh, the former president of notre Dame a couple of days ago. He was a true leader of men and women. During the mass; the scripture was read about feeding the hungry, comforting the sick and those in prisons and giving to those who were thirsty. When the people asked when did I do that, Christ said, "You did that to the least of us." Whats JB going to say?"Well, I went on mission trips and trashed Catholicism and brought Hersey bars to the starving." " Oh; yeah I also brought some soccer balls up to the mountain on the back of my pack mule daughters!"

Anonymous said...

To Hoosier, your post was a blessing to me. I believe you nailed what would have been the inane comment from Jim Bob. He just loves to trash we Catholics however we rise above his childish & idiotic banter.

Anonymous said...

Dim Bulb would probably object because he is a person of limited intelligence & knowledge. He continually proves this behavior to be true each time the Duggar program aires.

Anonymous said...

Definitely true. Dim Bulb is an idiot. If Jim Boob were in a room with intelligent true Christian people his limited brain could not keep up. He would go to the place of stupid humor to circumvent his ignorance which BTW clearly isn't working for him. In essence? He would be laughed at & removed from the room.

Anonymous said...

Excellent description of a CULT. You definitely defined the reality of the Duggar home. It's truly sad JB & M chose to drink the Kool Aid of The Creep Gothard. I know the Duggars attend a Baptist church. As a former Baptist (thankfully) I will attest the Baptist church I grew up in was basically in the beginning stages of a cult. I am now a Catholic.

Elspeth said...

In reference to the church that the Duggars attend, it isn't a regular church. It's a church Jim Bob heads that meets in a warehouse by invitation only. It's far from a regular Baptist church.

Anonymous said...

Is this warehouse located on the grounds of the Duggar compound?

Elspeth said...

The warehouse doesn't look like any of the buildings on the main property. They also went so far as to put black drapes over the windows seemingly to keep people from seeing in which they wouldn't have to do on their own property.

Anonymous said...

Notre Dame & anyone affiliated with this wonderful church do so with humble attitudes. They are truly making a positive difference throughout the world. They will never be categorized as are JB & M Duggar as a joke. Because the mission of ND is one of giving of themselves & selflessness & not of candy & toys. Therein lies the difference & the class.

Heart in Florida said...

How can this family claim to be so "Christian" and not attend a real church? A Christian is one who is always desiring to learn and expand on their knowledge and relationship with the Almighty through Jesus Christ...that,my friends, IMO, comes from ATTENDING a real church, run by a real ordained minister/reverend/priest who INSTRUCTS YOU,,, not YOU running you own show...they live in their own little world, and others buy it. They do NOT attend church, they do whatever they want.. not Christian at all. Jim Bob did not attend any seminary or divinity school and is NOT ordained. he is NOT any real relgion in the first place...they are NOT practicing Baptists, Independent or anything..for they don't attend a real church..they are frauds in that department.
Also, any legitimate church would NOT black out windows so others could not see inside..they would be wanting others to observe and join them in worship....but they don't ..something is going on in there that shouldn't be. A real Baptist minister would call them out for being illegitimate...

lutherland said...

Many Lutheran churches work with Lutheran World Relief. My church works with them to provide simple quilts tied with yarn. We have committed to 150 quilts each year, along with 150 school kits and 150 health kits. The ladies sew the school kits and fill them with spiral notebooks, pencils, rulers, scissors, construction paper, etc. The health kits include band aids, nail files, a comb, tooth brush and paste and soap wrapped up in a towel. Why cant JB do something useful for these people in third world countries like this? We have all seen the see the machine and needles and threads for Jilly's wedding! Do something useful and Godly for once in your life Jim Bob!!

sandi said...

Their 'church' is also invite only,whereas with the Bateses,it is open and anyone can attend.
I've alwyas figured they did it to separate themselves from others,and so they didn't have to tithe 10% to a real church.JMO

Betty said...

I hate the tithing being brought up as Christian, but yes you're right Baptists do preach it a lot. According to a friend of mine who is a Baptist minister they had a whole class on how to preach it in seminary. Most Christian churches don't preach tithing though. It's another one of those Old Testament things.

sandi said...

I only brought up tithing,because with so many kids,I don't see how they could possibly do the 10% rule and still get by (at least not before the show,and for the other families).I know we never could,and we only had 2 children.Were we to have given 10%,the bills would have never gotten paid.

redneck said...

There is a church in my town that has a sign at its entrance that says You are now entering God's holy house to worship and praise him. At the exist there is another sign that says You are now entering the mission field to serve others. Kind of like at the end of the service when the pastor says, "Go in peace. Serve the Lord." And the congregation replies, "Thanks be to God." At JB's church, he probably announces, "Come over to me and Michelle's house for tater tot caserole and string beans. Our virginal daughters made it!!' Then we'll have fellowship as Jana paints yous women's nails and me and the boys will take yous men on a tour of all our sheds on our ATV!"

Heart in Florida said...

redneck: that is how a catholic mass ends.

Special Ed Lady said...

I thought it was very disrespectful for Jim Bob to bring the donoughs, on the ride a long. I seriously doubt he would lay his life on the line for a citizen he did not know. To mock those that do, is wrong.

redneck said...

Also in a Lutheran church.

Ginger said...

I think it's disgusting the way Jim Bob always needs to "butt in," with whatever his kids are doing. With the younger kids he always needs to win at whatever game they are playing & now with the ride along with John David it was a disgrace the way he acted. Yes John David is very quiet & reserved & lets a lot go, but he should have really told Jim Bob off. He had no right to get out of that car when he was told not to. He was given he rules before they let,if he didn't want to follow them he shouldn't have gone at all. I don't care if he's the dad John David was in charge & it diminished his position. Jim Bob is an idiot.

Syndee said...

Re: I don't care if he's the dad John David was in charge & it diminished his position. Jim Bob is an idiot.

I think you hit the nail on the head. On both points, actually.

Bobbi said...

Perhaps the reason Jim Bob believes he needs so much camera time is because as a child, he never received the attention he needed from his parents or more so his Dad. Granted & I agree, Jim Bob often behaves as a Bafoon perhaps he doesn't know better? I am not defending his annoying & silly behavior I just believe he is one who continually requires attention. I also believe when the cameras are not filming, Jim Bob is perhaps a not so nice ogre with his kids particularly Jsna. For some reason, I believe Michelle & Jim Bob target seek Jana. I think this family misrepresents every thing they once stood for. I am quickly becoming bored with each episode. If TLC believes the viewing public is only interested in pregnancy & birth if Duggar babies then, I really don't foresee the program continuing. Currently the Duggars are limited & hurting for an authentic story line.

Heart in Florida said...

Re: Bobbi's comments about JB's behavior...Well, where was and IS Mary Duggar, his mother? Why didn't she kick his butt when he was still in her house and require that boy to behave properly and have proper respect for her and his father for the good things they provided him? I,, also believe that it is a croc of bulloney that Grandma Duggar needs to be submissive to HIM,, after all, she still is HIS mother...Honor thy Father AND Mother, Jim Bob, it's a Commandment. I also agree what he isn't the easiest person to live with. I don't think that he has been that "friendly, loving, warm, type of "dad"...they kids have admitted, and he and MIchelle too, that he has an anger management problem. That is a big clue to me,, folks...these kids live in a small window of acceptable behavior on ALL fronts. I think he doesn't tolerate ANY questioning of his decisions or authority in that house. No mind is paid that many of these kids are not legal adults in their own rights, either. Quite telling.

Syndee said...

Re: If TLC believes the viewing public is only interested in pregnancy & birth if Duggar babies then, I really don't foresee the program continuing

It may not be that they think that's what everybody is interested in, it may be that the Duggars just don't have anything else. No one really has a job, no one is in college, etc. Even vapid materialistic teenagers on MTV-type reality shows are way more interesting

Bobbi said...

If Jim Bob were a true Christian then, he would be respectful of others beliefs. However myself as a former Baptist, early on we were taught to be disdainful of others religious beliefs. Many Baptists believe they are the chosen faith & that's just absurd. At age 20, I bolted from the Baptist church. I am unclear as to Jim Bob & Michelle's Baptist faith it seems in a way to mirror that of the LDS church meaning extreme control, courting, no TV, home schooling, control of the manner in which women dress & finally zero respect for women with the only function of a woman is to marry & immediately embrace continual pregnancy. All of the above written smacks of a cult. This is why the Older Duggar girls behave as middle school children they really have no basis from which to become an authentic adult as their comments during the Duggar TV program prove time & again. I really pity every one of the Duggar kids. I definitely hope one day & it could happen, one or more will break away from the Gothard training & brain washing.

Ginger said...

RE: Bobbie's comments. As I read the first sentence in your post I was appalled that anyone would give Jim Bob a pass for acting the way he does in front of the cameras because he didn't get enough attention as a child. I was relieved & agreed with you in your summation about Jim Bob & Michelle & the way they treat Jana, as well as how they misrepresent what they apparently once stood for, although I question whether that was ever really the way they lived & believed. It's become the most boring show, not the most popular, as Jim Bob would have us believe. The viewing public definitely is not interested in pregnancy after pregnancy, baby after baby, trying to keep straight what "big announcement," there will be, as we all know it will either be an announcement of a pregnancy or the sex of the baby. Yes Michelle, Anna,& Jill, I said the sex of the baby not the "gender " as you always refer to when speaking about a baby. I have noticed for sometime that there are words that are normal in most people's vocabulary that the Duggars won't use. The Duggars never use the word bathroom, although on a rare occasion some of the little ones, when asked what is their least favorite job around the house they will say, "cleaning the bathroom." But mostly it's "cleaning the restroom." They always refer to the restroom...even in their own home, one of the kids needs to use the restroom. It's the same with the word: sex. They always say the baby's gender, not the sex of the baby. Maybe it's only me but these are normal ways of speaking & yet the Duggars always shy away from these normal words. It appears to be tied in someway with their obsession with sex. I know it's just my opinion but wonder if others notice this?

Bobbi said...

Will TLC finally convey to Jim Bob that the universe doesn't revolve around him or Michelle? ThevDuggars reality is basically misleading, hypocritical & scraping the bottom of the barrel for a interesting story line, to continually subject the viewers choosing to watch the Duggars regarding babies, babies, babies is becoming trite. Earlier i last season, Jim Bob master of knowledge that he believes, commented that his TV show was above all others #1 in the Nation. My question is from what polluted well is this man drinking? I am bored with Michelle's childlike voice. & her comments about babies, babies. Does this woman possess a functioning frontal lobe? I am curious.

Bonbi said...

Watching the Bates. Granted, they still aspire to the crazy religious beliefs of the Duggars. The difference is their children have some freedom & the older boys have jobs. I thought it was interesting that Kely commented "children eventually leave home" or words to that affect. After Kelly made that comment, I could visualize Dim Bulb saying that remark along with a condescending chuckle of which he is infamous. Yet Jim Biob's chuckles are so false & patronizing. JB still a jerk.

Bonbi said...

Ginger, I agree with your post. Re giving Dim Bulb a pass, actually I was or along have been trying to get into this jerks head. I would love to see JB engage in a discussion with a non religious intelligent woman or man. I believe he would probably become intimidated, shun the person or scream NIKE. BTW the Nike thing is so ludicrous, absurd & just well, stupid . Stupid is as Stupid does. jB, Michelle & Jill (often Jessa) do stupid quite well.

Bonbi said...

Duggar church is invite only, OMG that's really frightening & telling. It's a CULT. Why TLC would you choose to promote cultish behavior unless of course TLC. Is ignorant regarding signs of a cult.

Bonbi said...

Lutherland, bravo for the unselfish & giving work to other in need from your church. Some of my relatives are Lutheran. We will never see the Duggars give back. They talk about giving to others aka "servants heart". But it's just rhetoric & breeze as they prove each week. The Bates are more realistic but I just can't support anything related regarding the Gothard cult way of life.

Bobbi said...

Sydney (love your name). Jim Bib Mr. Authority on the Bible should read & perhaps out into action with his family.. "An idle mind is the Devil's workshop". Perhaps this quote may not be Biblical however it is appropriate for the Duggars. Because the Duggars have too much time that is wasted. I just don't understand the older Duggar kids not getting the controlling behavior of JB & Michelle?

Bobbi said...

I found this evenings Bringing Up Bates program to be a refreshing change from JB Duggars idiotic & pathetic comments as well as Jessa's snotty attitude. At least Gil Bates is not in love with himself. Compared to the Duggars, the Bates seem relatively normal. When Erin received her heparin injection I had to leave the room because I have a horrid fear of needles. Each year I almost pass out when receiving my flu shot injection. Tomortow night, no longer watching the Duggars. I am DUGGAR DONE!

Bobbi said...

Watching Breakinhmg the Faith a program ficuses on young girls. & boys who escaped from the FLDS to a safe house & are in the process of being deprogrammed. Tear kids remind me of the Duggar girls long hair no pants, blind obedience. However these young people are far worst predicament vs Duggarc girls. The similarity is FLDS & Jim Bob Duggars home are a CULT. There is definitely a parallel between the Duggars & the FLDS. Pretty scary.

quilt lady's daughter said...

Regarding the comment about the ladies in the Lutheran church making quilts, my mom looked forward every week to going with her friends to work on them in her Lutheran church. The ladies brought a sack lunch and stayed all day. They had fellowship with each other while they had a good time doing something that was needed. Each year a representative would pick up all their quilts and school and health kits. She gave a talk about how the quilts were used as "room dividers" in poor counties huts. Something Jim Bob doesnt realize.and fellowship that the Duggar women will never experience.

Syndee said...

re: and fellowship that the Duggar women will never experience.

I always thought it was funny that they think that you only need to fellowship ( don't know if I use the word correctly) with your family. That interactions and friendships with others was useless. Oh yeah, except for Michelle.

Ginger said...

Re: Syndee's comment about "fellowship with your own family." The Duggar's used to mention about "fellowshipping" with the Bates family. However we haven't seen the two families together lately. That's probably due to all the weddings as well as pregnancies. On the other hand, it could be because the Bates have their own show now & maybe they, have "fellowship" with others. For a long time many bloggers have said especially in regard to the kids, why don't they just say they visited with the Bates or whoever, why do the kids "fellowship?"

Helen Crump said...

Fellowshipping is "church talk"..and we know none of these people can do anything without involving church or Jesus..they are unnaturally obsessed.

Ginger said...

Re: quilt lady's daughter. I know exactly what you are referring to about your mom & her quilting group bringing lunch & working on a project for people in need. Always referring to enjoying the fellowship they had with each other. I know many women that still do either quilting or knitting or putting together small gift packages of toiletries for shelters. I know of a group that the ladies call: "stitch & bitch," as they can air all their grievances as they work on a project for the needy. You're absolutely right this is not the "fellowship," that the Duggars refer to. Just because some groups meet in a church because there is enough room for them & their project doesn't mean it has anything to do with church itself. Sometimes the ladies may know each other from that church & know of a need. Some "Senior Centers," also have groups that meet at their facility for the same reason.

Bobbi said...

Re Jim Bob... This guy always talks about The Lord & so on. It's clear JB pretends & uses religion as means to control his family & to preach to those easily taken in by his BS. Jim Bob will do anything to remain on TV. His pseudo religion is a cult & TLC needs to step it up & create a program that's interesting. The majority of viewers as expressed in this blog are over the tired & bored pregnancies & Michelle's Minnie Mouse voice. If the only program every week focuses on this subject, then remove the program & replace with one intelligent viewers will relate. This request of TLC isn't difficult.

Erin said...

Re: taking a sack lunch and working together On quilts I'd love to do that. Do churches they still do those?

Bobbi said...

Why does Jim Bob stick his nose into every aspect of his adult kids lives. Michelle & he have no business pre marital counseling Jessa & Ben. JB. & M are not educated in the field of counseling. I was surprised about the workbook when Jessa & Ben were receiving counseling. Prior to marriage if a workbook is required perhaps the couple shouldn't marry. Pre marital counseling is a wise plan but not from the couples parents. Jessa & Ben should have consulted with a Professional someone unbiased. Also regarding the kidding lesson, this was just stupid on the part of JB & M. Obviously the Duggar parents have too much time on their hands. They need to focus in their younger children & raise those kids rather then depending upon the remaining older Duggar daughters living at home. The Duggar parents are living in la la land aka pretend land. They're disgusting & dishonest.

Wampascat said...

They use the same Gothard workbook that we see Gill and Kelly Bates give their kids before marriage for " counseling". I'm sure that Jim Bob feels that since he's a pastor of his own church he considers himself a counselor. In the Duggar mind, if you do something once, you can claim the title. Deliver a baby, you're a certified. Midwife! Play the piano, you're a concert pianist! Snap a few pics? You're a professional photographer! Got a few computer skills? You're a graphic designer! Make tater tot casserole? Professional chef! All it takes is an overinflated Duggar ego and limited talent and education and the world is your oyster!!!

Bobbi said...

Wampascat, wow. Thanks for your insightful post. I didn't realize the workbook is from the Creepy bachelor who preys upon young women Old Man Gothard. With the fact & it is that Gothard was called to task committing what I refer to as sun lusting after young women with his perverse behavior, how on God's earth do the Duggars & Bates families not get this? Are they really this oblivious to the Gothard lies? I thought their brains had better sense. Guess I was definitely mistaken. Once again this week, I will not watch the Duggars program. DUGGAR DONE!

Sharon said...

I'm not sure the marriage workbook is by Gothard. There is a marriage workbook by the same name available on Amazon.

sandi said...

I've always flet JB knows that as a businessman,ATI is a scam,BUT he likes the level of control it gives him over his family,so he takes advantage of it and uses it.
Someone to twist the verses and act as a false messiah is what these controlling parents want,and that,IMO,is what they get out of ATI and Gothard.Of course,that is only my opinion

Bobbi said...

I just realized Jim Bob is impressed with his own ignorance. Especially when this Loser always laughs at the most inappropriate situations. JB's attempts at humor & jokes is pathetic.

Bobbi said...

Someone please enlighten me as to why the Duggars are obsessed with & support the Univ of Arkansas? U of A is not a religious but a secular college. Yet often I've seen several Duggar kids wearing Univ of Arkansas T-shirts. If the Duggars are the best sanctimonious Christians in the USA then it seems they would not support or wear the colors of the Univ of Arkansas. Derick is a grad of Ok State Univ & was once that schools mascot. Since marrying Jill is he now forced by St Dim Bulb to become a fan of the Razorbacks? I am confused.

funtally said...

None of them use proper grammar. Jessa has said, "Us older girls wrote a book". I thought I surely hope you had someone editing it!

Ginny said...

Yes funtally the Duggars all use poor grammar. They often say "us Dugar girls can do many things people don't think we can." That in particular was in reference to wearing "flip flops in South America. Jim Bob is famous for: "me & Michelle."

Bobbi said...

Jessa often says me & Ben or Ben & I when she should have said Ben & me. Of all the older Duggar girls, Jill's grammar & lack of vocabulary is the worst. Perhaps I am more critical of Jill because I just don't like her. I feel sorry for Derick. I still believe Jill & Detick's marriage was in a way, arranged by Dim Bulb.

Bobbi said...

One more detail... Perhaps the lack of vocabulary & poor grammar is related to the home schooling? As I recall, in a past episode, Michelle said "we home school & life school". Perhaps more emphasis is placed upon "life school"'? I've always been curious as to the level of reading skills & comprehension of the Duggar kids? Also curious as to their math skills. Two very important elements everyone needs throughout life. Also, from a comment Jessa once said about the holacost, I doubt the Duggar siblings are informed about current events or rather misinformed? There is a tremendous difference in a High School education vs a GED. I believe the GED Is the easy way out.